Vaccines and Malaria

[decode reality]

Hi everyone,

I'm against vaccines in general and especially the pig flu nonsense. What about the vaccines for things such as malaria? A friend of mine was over in Ghana for three months in 2001, he returned critically ill with malaria, I don't think he'd had the shots before departing.

Are some vaccines worth taking?

Sorry mods, I know it should be on the health forum, but felt it was generally relevant to current events too.

[21_12_2012]

http://www.jimhumble.biz/biz-malaria.htm

[bones]

im going to cuba in 6 weeks and the couple who we are going with told us we need a hep a vaccine... and maleria..

i told he why do i want that shit in me?

she said you have to have it cos if you dont i dont want you near me if you get hep A/maleria.

ok i said i wont have it and you can,,, so if i get it what you got to worry about cos you had the vaccine?

erm!! couldnt reply!! bar bar bar sheep sheep!!!

i said why you having it?
cos we are advised too,,, do you know whats in it?
no
so why do you inject drugs without knowing what it does?
cos everyone else has it and they are ok..
really how you know?
cos if there was sumthing wrong with it it would be on the news.
the big pharmas own the news so if there was sumthing bad with it would they ruin there own company or cover it up?
erm.. the news would tell us...

WTF!!! no sense at all. brainwashed yuppy.... even my wife is going to have it... even though she refused to vaccinate our son... i swear i could go crazy in the nightmare world we live in...

[wise haven]

Hi everyone,

I'm against vaccines in general and especially the pig flu nonsense. What about the vaccines for things such as malaria? A friend of mine was over in Ghana for three months in 2001, he returned critically ill with malaria, I don't think he'd had the shots before departing.

Are some vaccines worth taking?

Sorry mods, I know it should be on the health forum, but felt it was generally relevant to current events too.

I didn't know they vaccinated for malaria.

Back when I was travelling malarial areas I would take various pills - Paludrin is one I can remember.
I still ended up with malaria - it knocked me off my feet within a couple of hours of developing symptoms. Nasty nasty disease - deadly if untreated.
Normally you would start taking anti-malarials a month before departure and continue after return.

Didn't know there was a vaccine now though.

Malaria will kill you deader than a hammer - so if you don't want to take the shots or pills.....don't go to a malarial area. :)

[decode reality]

I probably used the wrong word....it's not a "vaccine" as such, an injection, yes.

Thanks for the info, will be looking further into it all.

[alrick888]

im going to cuba in 6 weeks and the couple who we are going with told us we need a hep a vaccine... and maleria..

i told he why do i want that shit in me?

she said you have to have it cos if you dont i dont want you near me if you get hep A/maleria.

ok i said i wont have it and you can,,, so if i get it what you got to worry about cos you had the vaccine?

erm!! couldnt reply!! bar bar bar sheep sheep!!!

i said why you having it?
cos we are advised too,,, do you know whats in it?
no
so why do you inject drugs without knowing what it does?
cos everyone else has it and they are ok..
really how you know?
cos if there was sumthing wrong with it it would be on the news.
the big pharmas own the news so if there was sumthing bad with it would they ruin there own company or cover it up?
erm.. the news would tell us...

WTF!!! no sense at all. brainwashed yuppy.... even my wife is going to have it... even though she refused to vaccinate our son... i swear i could go crazy in the nightmare world we live in...

The thing is to be able to enter some countries certain vaccinations are required, and customs can actually turn you back at the border if you don't have the documentation to show that you had those jabs. if you enter as a group controls will usually be less strict.

[cleopatraxxx]

Hi everyone,

I'm against vaccines in general and especially the pig flu nonsense. What about the vaccines for things such as malaria? A friend of mine was over in Ghana for three months in 2001, he returned critically ill with malaria, I don't think he'd had the shots before departing.

Are some vaccines worth taking?

Sorry mods, I know it should be on the health forum, but felt it was generally relevant to current events too.

hello decode reality,
i lived in a country full of Malaria, and there is no such thing as VACCINE against malaria! you know why? because if there is i will want to tell the whole African continent that the whites have been suppressing the CURE forever from them! in some African countries the main cause of deaths is not AIDS, is MALARIA!. so if you get to know that there is a malaria vaccine that works, i WANT TO KNOW! why would there be a vaccine and not given to us in AFRICA??? i had malaria when i was 7 years old. i got it again when i was 27 and i hope to never get it again. some say, once you get it, you never loose it.
i know AIDS is ma-made and specifically to eliminate the Africans and Asians, and of course we are told there is no cure. Clinton's wife signed an agreement with Mozambique to open there a Laboratory for research of a vaccine against malaria. that was in 2006 or 2007 if i am not mistaken. so i suppose there is no such thing as a vaccine against malaria. at least not a permanentely working vaccine. maybe they have something that protects the body for SOME time? even then, WHY THEN NOT SELL THIS in AFRICA?????i know when my husband first travelled to Mozambique he was advised to take and did take a vacine that he was told is against malaria. he and his son got it. i went mental and asked him "vaccine against malaria????" he said yes, and i told him, the african continetnt does not know of any. it cost him though £200 for it! and also some tablets. i think it was something called MALARON tablets. ???? ANYBODY ELSE HERE KNOWS ABOUT IT?

i am MAD at the amount of lies we have been always fed on this stupid planet! i wish i could die soon, i can't see anything worth living for...

gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[decode reality]

hello decode reality,
i lived in a country full of Malaria, and there is no such thing as VACCINE against malaria! you know why? because if there is i will want to tell the whole African continent that the whites have been suppressing the CURE forever from them! in some African countries the main cause of deaths is not AIDS, is MALARIA!. so if you get to know that there is a malaria vaccine that works, i WANT TO KNOW! why would there be a vaccine and not given to us in AFRICA??? i had malaria when i was 7 years old. i got it again when i was 27 and i hope to never get it again. some say, once you get it, you never loose it.
i know AIDS is ma-made and specifically to eliminate the Africans and Asians, and of course we are told there is no cure. Clinton's wife signed an agreement with Mozambique to open there a Laboratory for research of a vaccine against malaria. that was in 2006 or 2007 if i am not mistaken. so i suppose there is no such thing as a vaccine against malaria. at least not a permanentely working vaccine. maybe they have something that protects the body for SOME time? even then, WHY THEN NOT SELL THIS in AFRICA?????i know when my husband first travelled to Mozambique he was advised to take and did take a vacine that he was told is against malaria. he and his son got it. i went mental and asked him "vaccine against malaria????" he said yes, and i told him, the african continetnt does not know of any. it cost him though £200 for it! and also some tablets. i think it was something called MALARON tablets. ???? ANYBODY ELSE HERE KNOWS ABOUT IT?

i am MAD at the amount of lies we have been always fed on this stupid planet! i wish i could die soon, i can't see anything worth living for...

gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Bel, thanks for your post. I'd never focussed a lot on this issue before because I've never travelled much outside the uk. I'm anticipating the possibility of travel to India or nearby in the next year or so.

I will certainly be looking into all aspects of this topic.

[alrick888]

hello decode reality,
i lived in a country full of Malaria, and there is no such thing as VACCINE against malaria! you know why? because if there is i will want to tell the whole African continent that the whites have been suppressing the CURE forever from them! in some African countries the main cause of deaths is not AIDS, is MALARIA!. so if you get to know that there is a malaria vaccine that works, i WANT TO KNOW! why would there be a vaccine and not given to us in AFRICA??? i had malaria when i was 7 years old. i got it again when i was 27 and i hope to never get it again. some say, once you get it, you never loose it.
i know AIDS is ma-made and specifically to eliminate the Africans and Asians, and of course we are told there is no cure. Clinton's wife signed an agreement with Mozambique to open there a Laboratory for research of a vaccine against malaria. that was in 2006 or 2007 if i am not mistaken. so i suppose there is no such thing as a vaccine against malaria. at least not a permanentely working vaccine. maybe they have something that protects the body for SOME time? even then, WHY THEN NOT SELL THIS in AFRICA?????i know when my husband first travelled to Mozambique he was advised to take and did take a vacine that he was told is against malaria. he and his son got it. i went mental and asked him "vaccine against malaria????" he said yes, and i told him, the african continetnt does not know of any. it cost him though £200 for it! and also some tablets. i think it was something called MALARON tablets. ???? ANYBODY ELSE HERE KNOWS ABOUT IT?

i am MAD at the amount of lies we have been always fed on this stupid planet! i wish i could die soon, i can't see anything worth living for...

gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

There is no malaria vaccine as of yet. Apparently it isn't really profitable enough for the pharmaceutical industries, as the main market would consist of people unable to pay for it.

Malarone is a prophylactic medication that you are supposed to take every day so you don't get malaria. The pills are pinkish and rather large, and they haven't been clinically tested for periods longer than 6 weeks. Still a doctor will easily give you a 6 month supply of them! However it is advisable not to take them longer than 6 weeks to be on the safe side.

Malarone is very expensive but far better than Lariam (mefloquine) a drug developed during the Vietnam war which influences brain function and has psychotic episodes and depression as "possible side effects". It also isn't 100% effective.

A few years ago new malaria medication came out of China based on Artemesinin. Most notable brand name is Coartem. Artemesinin is a Chinese herb (Qinghaosu) that has been used in the treatment of fevers for over 1,000 years, thus predating the use of Quinine in the western world. These can be used for prophylaxis and treatment (mostly treatment). I would recommend these as they are effective, very affordable and have little side-effects.

Doxycycline I have no experience with. It is often the preferred prescription to US citizens for prophylaxis and seems to work ok for them.

[wise haven]

There is no malaria vaccine as of yet. Apparently it isn't really profitable enough for the pharmaceutical industries, as the main market would consist of people unable to pay for it.

Malarone is a prophylactic medication that you are supposed to take every day so you don't get malaria. The pills are pinkish and rather large, and they haven't been clinically tested for periods longer than 6 weeks. Still a doctor will easily give you a 6 month supply of them! However it is advisable not to take them longer than 6 weeks to be on the safe side.

Malarone is very expensive but far better than Lariam (mefloquine) a drug developed during the Vietnam war which influences brain function and has psychotic episodes and depression as "possible side effects". It also isn't 100% effective.

A few years ago new malaria medication came out of China based on Artemesinin. Most notable brand name is Coartem. Artemesinin is a Chinese herb (Qinghaosu) that has been used in the treatment of fevers for over 1,000 years, thus predating the use of Quinine in the western world. These can be used for prophylaxis and treatment (mostly treatment). I would recommend these as they are effective, very affordable and have little side-effects.

Doxycycline I have no experience with. It is often the preferred prescription to US citizens for prophylaxis and seems to work ok for them.

Fascinating - The Chinese have had a very effective preventative and treatment in the form of Artemesia but until fairly recently they didn't want it to be world knowledge.

The US (DOD) didn't find this out until they sent out teams to hunt for the elusive "Chinese Cure" and eventually, with great surprise, found it on their own doorstep growing as a weed.

Artemesia (Wormwood) kills the parasite mechanically - so the malaria parasite does not develop an immunity like it does with medications.

[alrick888]

Fascinating - The Chinese have had a very effective preventative and treatment in the form of Artemesia but until fairly recently they didn't want it to be world knowledge.

The US (DOD) didn't find this out until they sent out teams to hunt for the elusive "Chinese Cure" and eventually, with great surprise, found it on their own doorstep growing as a weed.

Artemesia (Wormwood) kills the parasite mechanically - so the malaria parasite does not develop an immunity like it does with medications.

Wormwood's biological name is Artemisia absinthum and is used in te making of absinthe, the green spirit famous for making Van Gogh go crazy.

[wise haven]

Wormwood's biological name is Artemisia absinthum and is used in te making of absinthe, the green spirit famous for making Van Gogh go crazy.

Ah! - The green fairy.

Seems that wormwood, like the hemp family, has many use medicinal and spiritual.

It is also a vermifuge - gets rid of worms :)

[gracimusic]

I am travelling to East Africa tomorrow and I've been taking malaria tablets prescribed by the nurse... they are horrible! they make me dizzy, give me headache and nausea. And I feel slow, clumsy, stupid... I wish I wouldn't have taken them... I will have to take them now for as long as the trip lasts and 28 days later too! I can't see the end of it...:(