FACT: Royalty and politicians are blood related.

[steppewar]

David Cameron's Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandad was King William the 4th of the UK (reigned 1830-1837), the immediate monarch before Queen Victoria.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-462313/Dave-Cameron-says-hes-touch-reality--wealth-blue-blood-wonder.html

Boris Johnson, the current mayor of London's Great X8 Grandad was King George the 2nd of the UK (reigned 1727-1760).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/08_august/04/think.shtml

It is a FACT that senior politicians and Royalty are closely blood related.

[steppewar]

I'm surprised no one has replied to the PROOF here that major politicians are DIRECT descendants of Kings of England.

There are 20,000+ members of this forum. I'll bet not one member can even claim to being a distant relative of Royalty or Aristocracy.

Although everyone in the world is distantly related to each other, it is VERY rare to be a DIRECT descendant of a King of England.

David Icke has often written of the Kings 'Divine right to rule'. Well here is the proof that Kings and senior politicians are one and the same by blood; literally.

[brainfreeze]

I've never done a geneology search on my blood-line because the info I need is lost, but my ex's father did their family tree and traced them back to William the Conquerer. Hey, he even has letters his mum received from the Queen in the 1940s! My ex however is not connected, as much as he'd like that, though he does speak with the plum voice and has what he terms a regal walk, up straight hands clasped behind his back lol Wanker!

I thought most English were illigitimate royals anyway? :p

[steppewar]

I've never done a geneology search on my blood-line because the info I need is lost, but my ex's father did their family tree and traced them back to William the Conquerer. Hey, he even has letters his mum received from the Queen in the 1940s! My ex however is not connected, as much as he'd like that, though he does speak with the plum voice and has what he terms a regal walk, up straight hands clasped behind his back lol Wanker!

I thought most English were illigitimate royals anyway? :p

As I previously stated, everyone in the world is DISTANTLY related to each other.

My point is, that the politicians that are in power today are DIRECT descendants of Royalty, by direct I mean Grandad level, not cousin's 2,000 times removed.

Eg, Winston Churchill was descended from a very powerful aristocratic family, as were/are most British PM's right up to the present day.

[tjohn]

David Cameron's Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandad was King William the 4th of the UK (reigned 1830-1837), the immediate monarch before Queen Victoria.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-462313/Dave-Cameron-says-hes-touch-reality--wealth-blue-blood-wonder.html

Boris Johnson, the current mayor of London's Great X8 Grandad was King George the 2nd of the UK (reigned 1727-1760).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/08_august/04/think.shtml

It is a FACT that senior politicians and Royalty are closely blood related.Doesn't surprise me at all.

In regard to myself, my parents (when they were alive) did a genealogy check and on one side of my family there is a pirate of the sea but on the other side there is Royalty! I guess that makes for some sort of balance... even if some think otherwise.

[yass]

interesting steppewar. yeah, I kind of had an idea of some of that by having read bush's famous family tree and seeing that he, cheney, barak, the queen, madonna, vlad the impalor, well the whole line, are all related, relatives. I'm looking at the tree someone made and I see Diana and maybe maragaret thatcher but I'm not seeing the queen. I'm pretty sure the queen is related in there somewhere as well from what I've read before.

Here's the pic:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/yassx/bushfamousfamilytree.jpg

I would like to get an idea of who the pm's might be related to. I would like some info on blair and brown.

thanks for this interesting thread steppewar.

here we go. I did a little search.

Burke's Peerage today released a report tracing the Vice President's family tree to the 1400's. The study by Burke's senior genealogist, Roger Powell, and an American colleague, William Ward, found that Mr. Bush has more connections to British and European royalty than any President of the United States. Queen's 13th Cousin

For example, Mr. Bush is a 13th cousin of Queen Elizabeth II and is related to all members of the British royal family, according to Burke's genealogists. Moreover, he is related to all those who have married into the British royal family, like the Queen Mother, the Princess of Wales and the Duchess of York. Mr. Bush is also related to all current European monarchs on or off the throne, including the King of Albania.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/05/us/bush-they-say-is-indeed-a-connecticut-yankee-from-king-henry-s-court.html

[steppewar]

interesting steppewar. yeah, I kind of had an idea of some of that by having read bush's famous family tree and seeing that he, cheney, barak, the queen, madonna, vlad the impalor, well the whole line, are all related, relatives. I'm looking at the tree someone made and I see Diana and maybe maragaret thatcher but I'm not seeing the queen. I'm pretty sure the queen is related in there somewhere as well from what I've read before.

Here's the pic:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/yassx/bushfamousfamilytree.jpg

I would like to get an idea of who the pm's might be related to. I would like some info on blair and brown.

thanks for this interesting thread steppewar.

here we go. I did a little search.


Bush, Churchill and Princess Diana blood related, more evidence here ...
The below link AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST provides the bloodline link to Bush/Churchill/Diana
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/05/us/bush-they-say-is-indeed-a-connecticut-yankee-from-king-henry-s-court.html
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=6393

[sorath]

One problem I have with the royal bloodlines is how can anyone prove it. Sure these days there is DNA tests etc but can we really trust the history books to be 100% accurate. You never know King William the 4th could have knocked up a local peasant girl and the Queen took the baby as her own.

Just playing devils advocate. ;)

[dogsmilk]

"I felt I was the product of newcomers to Britain so it is totally bizarre, surreal in fact, to be told that in fact my Great x 8 Granddad is George II. But don't neglect the point that he shares that distinction with 1,023 others – there must be several thousand other people out there in the same position.

It seems it may be the case rich, posh, powerful people have a significantly raised tendency of spawning future lineages of rich, posh, powerful people, some of whom will subsequently be big in politics.

Amazing.

I expected the descendants of kings to mostly be dustmen. I think there used to be this thing called "class" or something that people talked about.

[free thinker]

I vote that we should spill their blood.....Just to conduct, proper tests - you understand. :D

[apekteina lordosis]

talking bloodlines perhaps you are aware that prince william has been dating kate middleton for many a year now. well her mother is carole middleton and carole has a brother called gary goldsmith and indeed before carole married the father of kate her surname was goldsmith but according to wikipedia the family of carole were "working class labourers and miners"!

i checked debrett's peerage online and there ain't a wifter of carole goldsmith but considering who kate middleton is dating it is quite interesting that her mother was once a goldsmith.

[mind1universe]

Can the rulers of the Irish kings and clans be related to these bloodlines?

On my mother side, we have two ruling clans going right back for at least 900AD to the 17th century. My great grandfather and grandmother were both the powerful families. My great grandfather is a 4th cousin or so JFK lineage and my great grandmother has eugenics on her side gong back as far as the records can go, in other words they kept marrying in the same surnames and passing the royal names such as edward, james, for example to each son. on the records the same surname was married in four time!!! (that is only in the last 200 years even)

I have no research done on my fathers side, I suspect royal bloodlineage on my fathers mothers side (as they are descendant of the british settlers who came to Laois/Offaly a plantation in the 1500s. My fathers father wont tell me anything other than his father and grandfather were wealthy and never sick in their lives.:(

I really wish to do my family geanology going back to the time of William the Conquerer.

[hawk]

So does anyone know whether they are full-blooded Irish,German, English or whatever?
Or did everyone's ancestors get around like mine did? LOL!
I have German,English and some Irish blood inmy family especially on my mother's side. We have been looking up the last name to see what the connection is. So far, it seems to come from Germanic tribes or some feudal lords who settled in the areas close to England. They took over a few villages in return for the peoples to work the land and they in turn provided protection. I guess that's how they all start,huh?

[apekteina lordosis]

So does anyone know whether they are full-blooded Irish,German, English or whatever?
Or did everyone's ancestors get around like mine did? LOL!
I have German,English and some Irish blood inmy family especially on my mother's side. We have been looking up the last name to see what the connection is. So far, it seems to come from Germanic tribes or some feudal lords who settled in the areas close to England. They took over a few villages in return for the peoples to work the land and they in turn provided protection. I guess that's how they all start,huh?

have you got any scottish in you?

would you like some? badum tish

[lewi]

Cameron and his wife are distant cousins , nothing like keeping it in the royal family -sick- :eek:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article745903.ece
Samantha Cameron, 31, Mr Cameron’s wife also has royal connections. An analysis of her family tree by Cracroft’s Peerage reveals that Nell Gwyn, the mistress of Charles II, is Mrs Cameron’s great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother.

[sorath]

The young pretender to the Tory throne is William IV’s great, great, great, great, great grandson. He is related to the 19th-century monarch through Elizabeth FitzClarence, the King’s illegitimate daughter, one of at least ten children he had out of wedlock with Dorothy Jordan, his long-term mistress

this is exactly what i was saying before but from a skewed perspective. Bloodlines can easily be dismissed if you think about it. Kings and queens of the past could not be tested for their DNA.

How do we really know that the queen today has any relation whatsoever to previous royal bloodlines?

Seriously, how? Because a book says so! 'ucking 'ell mate!

[godspeed]

good point....i demand a dna test to see.....:D

[hawk]

apetkina, hope i spelled that right, lol. I think there is some Scottish in there somewhere but i don't know, I have the family history saved in my emails from my sister who received alot of info from another person who helped her a great deal in her research.

[apekteina lordosis]

apetkina, hope i spelled that right, lol. I think there is some Scottish in there somewhere but i don't know, I have the family history saved in my emails from my sister who received alot of info from another person who helped her a great deal in her research.

sorry lady twas a crude joke ;)

a advantage of being a ginge is that it is pretty easy to calculate heritage aka indo-celt.

[hawk]

i know it was a crude joke but see i just turned it around for ya didn't i?;)

[apekteina lordosis]

i know it was a crude joke but see i just turned it around for ya didn't i?;)

:D

aye you were having one of your rare ladylike moments :p

[hunter77]

I'm surprised no one has replied to the PROOF here that major politicians are DIRECT descendants of Kings of England.

There are 20,000+ members of this forum. I'll bet not one member can even claim to being a distant relative of Royalty or Aristocracy.

Although everyone in the world is distantly related to each other, it is VERY rare to be a DIRECT descendant of a King of England.

David Icke has often written of the Kings 'Divine right to rule'. Well here is the proof that Kings and senior politicians are one and the same by blood; literally.

what about bob jones stepp;)

[3stepsahead]

there should be lots of bodily similarities between the royals/top politicians around the world then.