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dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:42 AM
I originally posted this on GLP 2 months ago. I thought I would share it with the David Icke forum.

Here is the original link to the thread over there. My name on that forum is The Third Eye ( * ).

http://www.***********************/forum1/message804569/pg1



Part I

I'll try to make this as short as possible. I know people like to be given information in a short span of time. However, my situation is complex. It would require a short book to explain everything that has transpired over the last 3 years. To summarize it as best as I can, immediately after I started researching Reptilian shape shifters, representatives from their species made contact with me. I'm still not 100% as to why this has taken place. However, I am 100% sure that it has taken place. It may also be happening with other individuals around the world. In fact, my personal experiences actually confirm this assumption. Hopefully, others with similar experiences will come forward after reading this. I know I'm not the only one.

I first heard of Reptilian shape shifters in late 2005. I was researching 9/11 for a couple of months and came across David dIcke's information. I disregarded it as utter nonsense. As most do when presented with that kind of information for the first time. I was 20 years old at the time. I was interested in conspiracy theories from a fairly young age. I was reading about JFK, Roswell, ETs, Deep Underground Military Bases, etc. as early as 15 years old. This was largely a product of being fans of the comedian Bill Hicks. So, coming across David dIcke's info wasn't entirely surprising. I just needed a lot more than that to be convinced that the world was run by secret bloodlines of Reptilian hybrids. Coincidentally, I was living in a duplex on WINDSOR RD at the time I first heard about the Royal Family being Reptilian hybrids. You will see a lot synchronicity like this as you read further.

Shortly after reading about these theories I was lying in bed one night and witnessed my first UFO. I was watching 2 bright "stars" outside of my window for about 5 minutes. Then, one of the "stars" rapidly moved towards the other and the two objects became one. Not long after this, I came into contact with my first Reptilian hybrid. His name was "Zachery." I won't release his last name in order to keep his identity private. I came into contact with this individual at the job I was working at. I was attending community college at the time and working as delivery driver to pay the bills. Zach came in and filled out application to be a cook. He was student at the University of Texas.

I was huge pothead. Zach could get really good weed. As a result, we became very good friends. He continued working there for a few months. Immediately before Zach quit working there, another individual by the name of "Chris" started working there. Chris had just moved to Austin from Dallas. According to his claims, Chris was formerly a drug dealer for a MAFIA family in Dallas. He actually mentioned the name of this family, but I didn't remember it. I didn't think it was significant at that point and time. Now I do.

Zach stopped working there shortly after, but we remained friends. In June 2006, I started researching the Israeli connection to 9/11. I also came across the claims that Alex Jones was a Zionist agent. I actually went on Alex Jones' myspace page and started accusing him of this in the comments section. 5 minutes after I made this post accusing him of being a Zionist agent I received a phone call from Zach. Zach is Jewish. I didn't answer the call. I disregarded the phone call as a coincidence.

A week later, I was on Dylan Avery's page accusing him of being a Zionist agent. 5 minutes after I posted my first comment I received a phone call from my Jewish friend, Zach. I told myself it was just another coincidental call. A week after this I was on 9/11blogger accusing them of being Zionist agents. I was actually arguing with the people who run 9/11blogger in real time. It was about 1 AM in the morning. I received, yet another, coincidental phone call from Zach.

At this point, I was starting to think Zach may be connected to Mussad somehow. Zach and his older brother, Michael, where the kind Jews that liked to let you know they were Jewish. They originally came from Brooklyn, NY. The first time I met Michael he made a comment about Steinbrenner being a Jew that always exploits the system in favor of the Yankees. To which I replied," Yeah, but everyone does that." Zach looked over at his brother and shook his head in approval of my statement. It was almost like his brother's comment about Jews was a test to see how I would react.

One time Zach was over at my place. My roommate let his tongue slip and made a derogatory remark about Jews while were watching TV. He forgot that Zach was Jewish. The next time Zach came over he had his Israeli Defense Force T-shirt on. You could tell my roommate's statement got on his nerves and he was reaffirming the fact that he was Jewish. My roommate actually has Jewish friends. He likes Jews very much. His statement wasn't meant to be taken literal. It was just one of those quick things that he blurted out without thinking first.

My father is a federal agent for the DEA. Prior to his employment with the DEA, he was an investigator for the Department of Justice under Janet Reno. I started to suspect that maybe they were interested in me feeding information to him. They don't like federal agents knowing about the corruption. So I decided to cut off communication with Zach completely when I moved out the duplex the next month. His phone calls seemed to be too coincidental to simply be a coincidence.

It's now July 2006. I was now working at a different restaurant because the pay was better. Zach was aware of this. Remember the guy "Chris," that I spoke of a few paragraphs back? He comes into the restaurant with a friend of his. I recognized him right away. He made sure I saw him. After he was finished eating, we started talking out front of the restaurant. He asked me," Have you talked to Zach lately?" I replied," No. It's been awhile." Yeah," I was just over at his place last week. He said you were working here. You should give him a call." I replied," Yeah, I do that. See ya later. Gotta get back to work." It was like he was trying to get me to reestablish contact with Zach. I hadn't spoke to Zach in about 2 months at this point. Keep in mind. Chris is the individual that claimed he dealt drugs for a mafia family in Dallas.

A couple of months go by. I was in desperate search of some good weed. I couldn't find anything anywhere. All options were lost. So, I remembered Zach and how good the weed was through him. I caved in after cutting off contact for 4 months. I gave him a call. He sounded extremely relieved to hear from me. He was like," Wow. David (My name) it's really good to hear from you. Yeah, I can help you out on the weed situation." We decided to meet up at the dealer's apartment. I was relieved because I just wanted to get the shit and get the hell out of there. I wasn't looking to sit down with Mr. Mussad and smoke a bowl. However, after we got the weed he persisted on returning to his apartment to split it up. I reluctantly agreed. As we where leaving the dealers apartment there was a song playing. I distinctly heard Zach saying," Hey. This song is terrible. It's about harming young children. That's terrible." Which relates to the theories surrounding Reptilian shape shifters. I didn't know this at that point and time. I was researching Israel,9/11, Mussad, CIA, etc. I didn't start researching David dIcke, and others like him, until months after this.

We returned to Zach's apartment. His older brother Michael happened to be staying there on the couch for a week. So, he was there as well. I could clearly overhear Michael on the phone speaking with a girl when we arrived. He carried on like this for about 10 minutes. Zach and I split up the weed and started smoking. After Michael finished his conversation on the phone Zach sat down on the couch next to him. He asked about the girl on the phone. Michael was clearly trying to spend the night over at her place.

Then things started getting little weird. Zach leaned over to Michael and started to whisper," Hey. Why don't you just beat the shit out of him? You get in bar fights all the time. Just kick the shit out him right now. I've seen you get in fights on cruise ships. Just beat the shit out of him." He was trying to be discrete, but I could clearly hear everything he was saying. Michael sat back on the couch with his hand slightly covering his mouth. I could clearly see him grinning behind his hand. He lightly shaking his head in a "no" motion in regard to Zach's wishes. Zach kept persisting. Michael then proceeded to punch Zach in the arm and say,"NO!" He then said," I should tell him about the time I screwed over the Koreans."

Michael looked over at me and said,"Man. I should tell you about this crazy story. I once played baseball in College. After a game, the team and I returned to my apartment to party. We had all over baseball shoes on. We basically tore the apartment apart. It was demolished." I was like," Yeah, that is pretty crazy." Michael replied,"Yeah, but it was cool though. I knew the guy that owned the entire apartment complex. I just told him to move us into a new apartment and sublease this apartment out to some Korean college students who won't see the place before moving in. We got away with it completely. We didn't have to pay a cent for the damages to the apartment." I was replied," Man. That is fucking crazy." He looked over at me with a grin on his face and said,"Yeah. That is just a little OPEN joke for you." He looked over at Zach and the two of them I started laughing hysterically. I wasn't laughing at all.

Michael then proceeded to ask me questions about my father. Who is a DEA agent. I had received a ticket for accidentally running a red light at work that day. Michael asked me," Why don't you just get your big DEA dad to help you out with the ticket. I'm sure he could get it taken care of." I replied," No way." He started to ask me," What's your dad like. His he stickler for the rules? His the type of person that's anal about following the speed limit and shit like that." I replied,"Yeah. I guess. Just as much as the next person, I guess." He seemed overly interested in my father.

I was ready to leave at this point. It seemed like they were talking about "beating the shit out of me." At least, it seemed like it to me. I don't know who else they could have been referring to. I decided to get out of there. Zach walked me over to the door and unlocked it. As we were shaking hands he started saying,"Yeah man. Just give me call when you need more of that (weed.)" As he was saying this we were face to face. This is when it happened. His eyes went from being dark brown to changing into a light blue color in one eye. They other eye was a light yellow color. His pupils were extremely small. As if a bright light was being shined in his face. It didn't look human at all. It looked evil. The image will always be frozen into my brain. I didn't know what the hell it was, but I knew something wasn't right. I was in a minor state of shock for the rest of the night. I immediately went over to a friend's house following my visit to Zach's place. They could tell I was acting strange. I wasn't talking much. I just kept replaying the previous experience in my head.

When I witnessed Zach shape shift in his eyes, I wasn't aware of the fact that eyes could "shape shift." This was a concept that I hadn't researched yet. However, months later I stumbled across a David dIcke video where he talks about the eyes being the first thing to shape shift when witnessing a Reptilian shape shift. This experience caused me to take David dIcke seriously. Without it, I never would have given David dIcke the time of day.

I should also mention one more strange experience surrounding Zach. When I was still hanging out with Zach on a regular basis, he introduced me to another kid by the name of "Jay." Zach and I smoked over at Jay's apartment on 2 separate occasions. However, it was strange. Jay always seemed like he was uncomfortable with us being there. He never smiled, or laughed, or gave any sign that he was happy about us being there. Jay and his girlfriend painted the walls of the apartment. They had a lot of artwork that pertained to Hindu spiritual beliefs. Which are important when understanding Reptilian possession on human beings. The Reptilians possess humans through certain Chakras. The interesting thing about Jay is this. Zach told me that Jay moved apartments and cut off communication with Zach entirely. Zach actually expressed a desire to go to Jay's job and confront him.

Does this sound familiar? It should. It was the same thing Zach did with me when I cut off communication with him and moved apartments. He sent Chris to my job to see what the problem was. I'm convinced Jay was interested in the subject of Reptilian shape shifters. He was being tracked by Zach just as I was. Starting to get the point yet? The Reptilians are doing this with a lot of people. Some of you are likely being monitored in the same way and you don't realize it.

If you find Part I to be interesting, then pull up a chair. I haven't even reached to the good stuff yet. Part I was necessary to understand the really interesting stuff in Part II.


To be continued....................

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:43 AM
Part II

On November 24, 2006 I was visiting my parents in Dallas for Thanksgiving. My dad was always mildly interested in subjects pertaining to ETs. He openly displays multiple UFO books (among others) on the shelf in their living room . I started telling him about my experience with Zach. I started telling him about my suspicions of him. I literally told him that he might not be human. We talked for about 2 hours. Between 7 pm and 9 pm. I showed him this recording.

[link to www.youtube.com]

I attempted to turn up the volume I kept getting feedback through the speakers. They kept humming as if a microphone was attached the system. There actually was a microphone attached. It was from the live video connection on the web-cam. Nobody had used the web-cam in years. We failed to realize this, at the time.

The next morning I took my cellphone off of the charger. There was a new voice mail. Coincidentally, Zach had left me a voice mail at 8:13pm. This was right in the middle of my conversation with my father. A conversation where I accused Zach of possibly being a Reptilian shapeshifter. This was an interesting coincidence considering the circumstances. When I returned home for Christmas, the volume on the computer was still pushing feedback through the speakers. I looked at the volume controls. I thought about the web cam microphone. The microphone volume was jacked up all the way and the "mute" box was unchecked. I proceeded to check the "mute" box and the annoying feedback went away. This means the microphone from the web cam was turned on throughout the entire conversation with me father. Even, though we haven't used the web cam in over 2 years. Who turned on the microphone? My dad didn't. My mother is the only person in the house. She doesn't know what a web cam microphone is.

Here is where things start to get really interesting. It was now May of 2007. I was still on the fence regarding the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. However, I was gradually researching that angle more and more. I quit my previous job and started working at another restaurant. It was at this job that the Reptilians revealed themselves to me. All of the employees, including managers where Reptilian shape shifters. In July 2007, I found this video on youtube. It looked exactly like what I previously witnessed in Zach's eyes on that one occasion.

[link to www.youtube.com]

This was proof enough that Zach wasn't human for me. Seeing his eyes shape shift before I ever believed in the existence of shape shifters was enough for me believe in their existence. I was visiting my parents in August 2007. I explained to them that Zach wasn't human. 30 minutes later I received a phone call from Zach! This was the first call I received from Zach since November 24th, 2006. What do you expect me to believe at this point?

This is where things start to get bizarre. The employees at my new job started harassing me. They started making specific references to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters. However, I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED AN INTEREST IN THESE SUBJECTS!!!!!!!!

It was as if they could read my mind. Which is precisely what researchers, witnesses, and whistle blowers claim of Reptilian shape shifters. They are extremely telepathic. Every memory, every secret, every thought can be attained by a Reptilian shape shifters. It was as like the reptilians were warning me to back off. Here is a photo of 2 of the individuals I'm accusing of being Reptilian shape shifters.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=410114252&albumID=1292694&imageID=15752503

The girl on the right is named "Arwyn." She has 2 intertwining snake tattoos running up her left arm. She wore snake earrings on a daily basis for the entire 12 months span of time that I worked with her. She would even show up to work with a pair of sunglasses that had snakes as the wire frames. Her purse was snake skinned as well. The redheaded women on the left is Brandy. She has a tattoo of 2 lizards on her right ankle.

In July, 2007 I started to believe in the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. Immediately after this the 2 women in that photo started harassing me. As well as every other employee at that job. They would constantly make references to blood drinking, cannibalism, pedophilia, and even ETs. For example, I overheard the two women in that photo having a conversation one day. Brandy was saying,"The price of everything is going up. Gas, cocaine, BLOOD." She quickly stopped when she realized that I heard her. She then tried to say," I mean cocaine. The price of cocaine has gone up." However, she knew she was caught. I was leaning up against a crate of marinara sauce. Arwyn walked over to me and said," Hey David. Get away from that. That is my weekly supply of blood. I need that to last me all week." To which I replied," Blood?" She said," Yeah. My blood. I need that to last me all week." I was speechless. I just walked off. This took place in May of 2008. After numerous strange things happened with these people.

Here is another example. I was walking to my car to go on a delivery. The manager and 3 other employees were outside smoking a cig. The orders were piling up. I jokingly told them to get back to work. As I was shutting my car door, I distinctly heard the manager say,"Okay. We're gonna go mutilate some pizzas. After that we're gonna go mutilate some children." This was another reference to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters.

Here is another example. In July 2007, after I convinced myself this stuff was real, two employees made a reference to this kind of information right in front of me. One of them was named "Patrick." The other was named, "Freddy." Patrick picked up a container of BBQ sauce. There was a picture of a black guy on the front. Patrick picked up the sauce, looked over at Freddy and said," Stubbs BBQ sauce. Secret ingredient WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. I'm Caucasian with blonde hair and blue eyes. Patrick was an Italian from Boston and Freddy was from Honduras. This was clearly a reference to Reptilians that prefer the genetics of blond haired, blue individuals such as myself.

Patrick is the lead singer of this band.

[link to www.youtube.com]

In Feb. 2008, I actually started to speak about this on a forum called Tooltabs.net. I explained everything on that forum that I have explained hear. Immediately after making my first post expressing my claims the harassment picked up drastically. I showed up to work one day to get my pay check. It was nowhere to be found. On the dry erase board it said," Thank you David. Thanks for your donation." Employees said they heard my named mentioned on 101.5X. Which is the biggest radio station in Austin. Patrick is good friends with the DJs. Patrick and Brandy took me aside later that night. They told me that somebody heard my named mentioned on 101.5 FM for giving a donation to a BLOOD DRIVE!!!! Keep in mind. My paycheck was missing. Brandy was like," So that wasn't you." I replied ,"No." Patrick said," HMM. That's strange. It must have been your doppelganger."

I was pissed off at this point. Patrick said,"Cmon Brandy. Come outside with me. I need to talk to you." They walk outside. Arwyn was at the front counter. For some strange reason, she decided to bring an X-Files VHS set to work with her that day. It was sitting on the front counter in plain view. Brandy walks back into the restaurant. She comes over to me and says," You better be careful." The X-Files VHS set was sitting on the counter right next to her. She had an extremely serious look on her face. I walked off. They were clearly warning me not to talk about them.

There was a time when I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine about all of this. I was expressing my anger over the situation. I actually said that I wanted to punch that girl Arwyn in the face. The next day I was working with Arwyn. Patrick came over to me and said," Man David. Don't you just want to punch Arwyn in the face sometimes." I was replied," No. What are you talking about?" Brandy said," Oh, there just playing around with each other." I was talking with Arwyn a couple of months prior to this. She said," Sometimes when I watch the X-files, I get all paranoid and start looking for bugs behind the pictures around the house." After this experience I understood the significance of her statement. They could hear what I was saying ( or at least knew that I said it) in a personal conversation I was having with a good friend of mine.

The company that provided the dough for this restaurant is called "The New World Bakery."Their logo is similar to the Royal Family Seal.

[link to www.thenewworldbakery.com]

This isn't everything, I've experienced. It's only about half of everything that has happened over the last 3 years. I'll be back with more later.

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:44 AM
Part III UFOs

I witnessed my first UFO before ever coming into contact with anyone that I believed was a Reptilian hybrid. The really strange aspect of my UFO sightings is that my personal friends have had their own UFO sightings. For example, within a few months of my first sighting, 3 people I know witnessed a triangular shaped object flying towards the Frost Bank Tower in the middle of downtown Austin. The object had multiple lights on the bottom of it. My friend Matt, actually believed the object was going to hit the tower. He said that he thought he was about to witness another 9/11 style attack. Then the object pulled up and started doing "figure 8" patterns over the tower in the middle of downtown Austin. When Matt explained this to me I honestly thought he was playing a joke on me. As a result of my interest in UFOs, ETs, etc. However, he was dead serious. One of the other people in the car with him was my ex-girlfriend and the other was her current boyfriend. They both confirmed the sighting.

Matt said my ex-gf was freaking out during the sighting. Matt couldn't understand why she was so scared. However, I knew exactly why. This girl is named Lindsay. Her dad grew up in the middle of nowhere in South Texas. He wasn't the least bit interested in the subject of ETs. The guy had never even heard of Area 51 when Lindsay mentioned it to him. Yet, he claims he was abducted by aliens multiple times when he was a child. Lindsay says it is very hard to get him to discuss these experiences. They were disturbing experiences and he doesn't like recall them. This is one of the reasons I believe his case to be so legit. The other reason is that the details he described about the experiences matched up with other accounts I have heard of. He actually describes being paralyzed on a metal table. He distinctly remembers a metal syringe being inserted into his eye, against his will.

Check out this seen from the movie "Fire In the Sky." It is about a famous abduction case involving 4 individuals. The person in this clip described having a needle stuck into his eye while being restrained on a table. Sound familiar?

[link to www.youtube.com]

When Lindsay described her dad's experiences, I immediately thought about that movie. I always wanted to sit down with her dad myself. However, she said that he wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. It's too bad. I would love to get his case documented. It seems legit to me.

Leading up to my employment with the individuals that I described in the previous thread; there were a couple of other strange things that happened. While I was working at another restaurant there was a strange situation with homeless man. I was returning from a delivery. This old homeless man was standing in the middle of the parking lot with an acoustic guitar. I was playing and singing when I pulled up. I started walking passed him towards the front door of the building. As I did this, he stopped playing and started walking right next to me. There was a child playing on the front steps leading up to the front door. The old man said,"Excuse me little buddy" and walked around him. He comes into the restaurant and walks up to the front counter. He asks the manager for a paper cup to get some water. The manager asks me to get it for him. I handed him the cup and said," Here you go sir." As soon as I opened my mouth this guys started freaking out and yelling,"Jesus has just spoke to me!Oh my god. Jesus has just spoke to me!" Everyone in the restaurant was looking at us at this point. I started walking off and thinking to myself in my head," Man. What a crazy old man." As soon as I started thinking that his tone changed. He said," Ah damn boy. You ain't him. Yur with the devil. God is on my side." He walked out the restaurant repeating "God is on my side." It was a bizarre situation.

Here is really strange aspect about this situation. A year later, I'm working at the restaurant with the individuals I described in my previous post. The people I'm accusing of people Reptilian shape shifters. Shortly after I started to perceive these people as being Reptilian shape shifters, this same homeless man from the previous year comes walking out of the restaurant one day, as I show up to work. He looks at me as we walk passed each other and says," Hey man. How's it going?" He had the same acoustic guitar in hand. I recognized him immediately. The way he addressed me was if he already knew me. It was like he remembered me from our previous encounter just as vividly as I remembered him. I replied," Hey. How ya doing?"

This guy started showing up to the restaurant on regular basis. He would always buy food, sit down in the dining area, and watch sports on the TVs. You would constantly hear him preaching to people about Jesus, or ranting about sports. The guy kept up with sports better than most sports fans with a home and television. He almost liked discussing that more than God, or Jesus. The other employees hated this guy. I found him to be quite amusing.

On December 22, 2007 I was working my final shift before going back to Dallas the next day for Christmas. It was about 8:30 pm. I was doing a delivery and noticed a strange bright light that appeared to be next to the moon. It was so close to the moon that I immediately disregarded it as a star. It was stationary. I returned from my delivery and went out on another. The object was now on the opposite side of the moon and a little further away. I never once witnessed the object move. However, I was keeping my eye on it for as long as could while driving around. I returned from the second delivery and went out again. The object disappeared in the short 5 minute time span that I was inside reloading on a delivery. Clearly this wasn't some kind of bright star. Stars don't switch positions multiple times over the course of a 45 minute time period. Obviously, this was a UFO of some kind.

Immediately following this sighting, the homeless man comes strolling into the restaurant at about 9:15 pm. He orders food and sits down in the dining area. We were slow on business at the time, so I made myself some food as well. I took it to the dining area to eat. There was one couple, sitting at a table right next to the homeless man. He was talking about Jesus and stuff like that. Eventually, the couple left. Leaving the homeless man and myself all alone in the dining area.

I expected him to start talking to me about Jesus or sports as usual. However, what he said was very strange. He walks up behind me and says,"News Flash! This just in. Al Qaeda has just attacked again." I looked up at him. He continued to say,"That's all a bunch of bullshit. America isn't under attack from Al Qaeda. America is under demonic attack. People just don't get it." I found this statement to be incredibly interesting. I replied,"I know it is." He continued talking," Most people just don't understand. Most preachers and religious people don't get the point either. I've tried talking to these guys. They don't get it. They don't understand that all of the negative problems are demonic.It's like a virus." People don't realize it." To which I replied," I know they don't."

During this conversation, I could see the other employees in the reflection from the glass windows at the front of the store. They were in the kitchen. There was a wall and a good amount of distance between us. There is no way they could have heard what we were talking about. Yet, I could clearly see them pointing over at us and arguing about it. They seemed to be upset that I was taking this individual seriously. The manager comes walking around the corner and says," Hey David. Cmon. Let's go smoke a bowl outside." I replied,"Cool. Be ready in a minute."

Right before this happened the homeless guy said," Austin is a great place for a spiritual revolution. I replied,"I know it is." He said," Look at me." I looked him in the eye. He smiled and said," Yeah. I'm gonna to set this shit off." I just smiled back at him. That's when the manager broke in. The homeless guy said," Well, it was great meeting you." I replied," Yeah. You too. Good talking to you." It was strange. I was doing a lot of research into the occult aspect of Reptilians. The demonic aspect. So hearing this guy say this stuff seemed far too coincidental for me. It seemed like he may have had something to do with the strange UFO I witnessed just before speaking with him.

A couple of months went by. The homeless man continued to come in from time to time. He would order food and watch sports. One day, he smelled exceptionally bad. As homeless people tend to from time to time. The other employees wanted him to leave. One of them kept asking me if he should ask him to leave. I'm not the boss. I didn't care. I don't why he was asking me. I walked out to the dining area to use the restroom. I walked passed the homeless guy. He looked at me and said,"I'm getting some really bad vibes. Are you getting those demonic kind of vibes from these people?" I quickly replied," Yeah." I mean hell, I was already convinced these people were Reptilian shape shifters. The demonic aspect doesn't seem far fetched to me at all, at this point. I walked back out into the dining room a second time. The old man looked at me and put his hands together in a prayer style position. He said," Can you do this?" I replied,"Yeah." He said," Well, do it." I complied. He asked me," Do you believe these vibes we are getting are the result of demonic energy." I quickly said," Yeah." He said," Okay. Well go tell your friends." I walked off.

During all these strange experiences with these people my UFO sightings progressively picked up. There was one day that I was working with Arwyn. It was about 4 pm in the afternoon. I was driving down Mary St, headed towards the restaurant. I witnessed a metallic orb start to fly perpendicular to the road I was on. It's movements where very controlled. All of sudden, the object made a 90 degree turn and started moving along the road to where it stayed in my field of view. The really strange aspect about the object, is that it started to morph into multiple, non-symmetrical shapes. It looked like a big blob of liquid mercury was floating through the air. That is the only way to describe it. I would almost describe this UFO as being a living organism, as opposed to a craft with mechanical parts. This thing seemed far beyond anything I've ever heard of coming out of Area 51.

In fact, I'm convinced that this investigator caught this object on film.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Based on the UFO I witnessed, they are the same object. However, this guy retracted his claims. MUFON claims the entire sighting was a hoax put on to fool this investigator. They claim they released a bundle of balloons immediately before the sighting. They released this video as "proof."

[link to www.youtube.com]

However, I beg to differ. I'm claiming that MUFON is run by CIA shills, who were trying to cover up a legit UFO sighting. I'm 100% convinced that MUFON filmed the release of the balloons AFTER the original sighting. They are trying to cover up the sighting. This is my claim.

The investigator who captured the UFO on film, was forced to retract his claim as result of the previous video I just posted. Here is his retraction.

[link to www.youtube.com]

I believe the sighting was 100% legit. I have seen the same thing with my own eyes. MUFON is nothing more than a cover up organization that monitors all human contact with ETs. This precisely the reason I refuse to report my sightings to these people. They are nothing more than a shill organization.

I'm gonna take a break for now. I've been typing for a while.

To be continued....................

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:46 AM
Part IV Magick with a "k"

Thus far, I've discussed the Reptilian shape shifters(Qlippoth for those of you familiar with magick) that have shown up at a couple of my jobs. However, there are others that infiltrated other aspects of my life. Such as my circle of closest friends. Which is probably the main aspect that pisses me off about the entire situation.

Reptilians showing up at my job is one thing. I could have quit that job at anytime. I worked there from May of 2007 to May of 2008. I was aware of the fact that these people at my job weren't human in July of 2007. I voluntarily stayed at the job for as long as I did, because the entire situation was interesting to me.

Once I realized these people weren't human, I took the entire situation as a learning experience to obtain accurate information on Reptilian shape shifters. I wanted to leave the job much sooner than I did. I stayed to get info. They kept feeding me information through their statements. Here is the bizarre aspect. The majority of these individual's statements were made amongst themselves. I was simply overhearing tidbits of their conversations. These Reptilians weren't aware of the fact that I could hear their conversations. They believed they were speaking amongst themselves telepathically.

However, because of the fact that I KNEW(not thought) that they were Reptilian shape shifters; I was able to tap into their telepathic conversations. This is why I was able to hear them make literally dozens of references to Reptilian information in their conversations. They were completely oblivious to the fact that I could hear them.

These Reptilians didn't realize that I could hear them until I openly stated this on the internet in Feb. of 2008. Shortly after this I walked into work one day and overheard Brandy speaking with another employee. They were looking over at me. I distinctly heard Brandy say,"You have to be careful now because he can hear us." The other employee replied,"He can hear us now?" Brandy said,"Yeah. He can hear everything we're saying." As if this was surprising to them.

At this point, I'm wondering what the hell they are talking about."He can hear us now"? What the fuck does that mean? Of course I could hear them. I could hear everything they were saying for the last 8 months. They were speaking. Why wouldn't I be able to hear them? Nothing they were saying made any rational sense, whatsoever. Thinking back on the situation, the only thing that comes to mind is telepathy. The way the Reptilians can read the minds of human beings is the same way we can do it to them. We just don't realize it yet. Due to the fact that I was aware of the Reptilian side of these people meant that they could no longer hide it from me.

So, I was able to listen to numerous conversations they were having without their knowledge of it. I overheard Arwyn say,"I wonder if eating a person that is a vegetarian still makes you a vegetarian." To which one of the employees replied," Of course not. If you eat a cow, that is considered meat. A cow doesn't eat meat." They weren't aware of the fact that I overheard this. Even though, they said it right in front of me. Each time they made a reference like this I just carried on with my business as usual. I didn't even look up to acknowledge their statements.

This is what Brandy was referring to when she said," He can hear us now." After I posted this on the net explaining the things I overheard them say, they finally realized that I could hear their telepathic conversations. Brandy actually came over to me immediately after saying this and said,"What deliveries do you want to take?" I said," I don't care." There were 4 deliveries on the computer screen. That meant 2 a piece. She said,"Cmon just choose 2." I said," I really don't care." She said,"Cmon use your magickal powers to see the future and determine which ones will tip the most." I said,"Magickal powers?" She winked and said,"Yeah. You know, your magikal powers." She starts naming off what the tip amounts are going to be. She was clearly making another reference to esoteric information pertaining to

I can remember one time when I was doing research into the Qlippoth. Which are basically the Kabbalistic version of demons. I was reading around on different sights on the net. All of sudden, there was some sort of explosion in midair about 2 feet from the right side of my head. It seemed like something from another dimension was violently revealing itself to me. I was like WTF?! I immediately closed my internet browser and stopped looking at information pertaining to the Qlippoth. It just seemed like something was warning me to stay away. Suffice to say, I have a profound respect for the power of the Kabbalah.

Also, one of the employees had this tattoo on her left arm. On her right arm she had a pentagram with Hebrew symbols written inside of the pentagram. It's called a "Hamsa." The Jewish Hand of God.

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So, there is definitely a correlation between Reptilians and occult magick. I would say literally all ETs, malevolent and benevolent, are masters of Magick. This is the entire point. Everyone needs to start taking this stuff seriously in order for the next step in human evolution to commence.

I'll continue tomorrow. I'm getting tired. I'll get into the other suspicious people tomorrow. There is more information pertaining to magick with these indiviudals.

To be continued........

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:47 AM
Continued from Part IV

So, there were definitely references to magick at that job. I should also mention that Zach (from my first post) had various books on Kabbalah on his bookshelf over at his apartment the night I witnessed him shape shift. Keep in mind. Zach and his brother Michael seemed to be talking about "beating the shit out of me" that night. That would have meant that they were very angry with me. Which researchers say causes them to have trouble maintaining human form. As a result of the emotional distress caused from their anger. It seems to fit that situation.

There is only one person, that I'm still in contact with, that I suspect of being a Reptilian shape shifter (Qlippoth.) There is a second. However, I believe my friends have cut of contact with him. These individuals made contact with my friends. Whether through coincidence, or on purpose. As I said before, this is the aspect that pisses me off the most. It's caused a lot of problems between my friends and myself. These are people that I've been friends with my entire life. One of them since I was 5 and the others since I was in the first grade.

The only one I can't cut off contact with is named "Luke." He is connected to fraternal organizations at the University of Texas. Luke became friends with a couple of guys that I've known since the first grade. He met my friend Douglas in a photography course at UT. Luke moved in with Douglas and another really good friend of mine named Tyler. I've known both of them since the first grade.

Luke presents himself as a laid back stoner type. However, he still pushes mainline conservative views pretty hard. He is also pretty racist and so is his family. Luke moved into a house with Douglas, and another friend of mine named Tyler. This took place in August of 2006. Luke started dating a girl named "Renee." She was the sister of the president of Luke's fraternity. Renee's brother is named "Robert."

One night, Tyler, Renee, and myself were watching TV together. Tyler was aware of my critical opinions of Israel. He started joking around and saying,"Don't you hate the Jews, David?" I just laughed. I said,"Shut up dude. You know I don't hate the Jews. I probably like Judaism more than any other religion." When Tyler said this Renee said,"Hey. I'm Jewish. Well, not really." I'm not sure what she mean by "not really." Either you are or you aren't. I thought that aspect was strange.

A couple of months goes by. Renee always seemed kind of flirty with me. Luke was having a graduation party in December of 2006. Renee dragged me around to play drinking games right in front of Luke. Luke was just standing there watching a place a drinking game with a grin on his face. It was strange. Renee looked at her brother and said,"Hey. He(David) knows Ladybug(her dog)." Her brother just kind of looked at her, looked at me, and looked back at her with a grin on his face. It was strange the way her brother and Luke were acting about us flirting with one another. You would think she wouldn't just flirt with me right in front of Luke like that. However, it was almost as if he didn't mind. It was strange as hell.

About 3 months goes by. I was signed up to take a short Sociology course at the local community college. It only lasted 8 weeks. When I arrived in the class Renee was there. She seemed strangely unsurprised to see me walk in the room. It was almost as if she knew I would ahead of time. On the first day of class, the professor divided us into groups so we could get to know the fellow classmates a little better. There were only about 15 people in the class. I was grouped with 2 others.

One of the individuals I was grouped with claimed that he was from Israel. His name was "Chase." He was Jewish. Chase said he had just arrived in Austin the week before the class started from Chicago. He said that his father was a nightclub owner in New York City. Chase also openly stated to the class that after the short 8 week course was over, he would be hitching a ride to Israel for FREE with an Israel military unit that was training here in the states.

Automatically, I'm suspecting that something strange is going on here. Renee claimed she was Jewish on one occasion. Her brother is the president of a fraternity at UT. This kid, Chase, claimed he was from Israel and returning there with an Israeli military unity immediately following the last day of class. I mean, why would Chase come to Austin for 8 weeks, just to take a short Sociology course at a community college? What could possibly be this individuals motive for doing this? It seems to me that he was keeping an eye on me. Sociology is a course where politics can be a large part of the discussion at times. This would give me ample opportunity to push alternative explanations for events such as 9/11.

When I hear about motives for putting cameras in school classrooms, I think about this situation. Chase wouldn't have to fly all the way to Austin and back to Israel if there was a damn video camera in the classroom, would he? Situations like this are probably a large part of the reason the Illuminati creates so many school shootings with mind controlled assassins. It causes the public such panic that they will gladly accept video cameras in the classroom. There was also one other Jewish kid in this class with me. There was also one Muslim girl. In a class with 15 people. Suffice to say, I kept my fucking mouth shut when it came to promoting information pertaining to conspiracy theories. A kid like Chase is not the person I want to ranting about Israeli conspiracy theories in front of. Renee was connected to fraternal organizations at UT through her brother being the president of one.

On the 4th day of this class Renee failed to show up for class. The professor mentioned something about it because she knew I was friends with her. Later that night, I was at Douglas' and Luke's house. Renee showed up while I was over there. Luke went into his bedroom and shut the door. Douglas and I were alone with Renee. Tyler walked in and started playing darts with Douglas. I was playing guitar. I mention to Renee about her missing class. I said the teacher mentioned her in class that day. Renee replied," Oh yeah. What did she about me? Did she say that I totally want to do you? Hmmm." I was speechless. Luke was in the other room. I didn't know what the hell she was thinking.

Douglas wanted to show us some funny video on youtube. He walked upstairs ahead of us. I was walking past Renee to go upstairs. I distinctly heard her say,"YAHWEH" as I walked up the stairs. She had a very sexual undertone to her voice. Almost like she was saying,"WowWee." However, I clearly heard her say "YAHWEH."

She walked upstairs behind me. I sat down on a stool. Renee sat on a chair. We were both behind Douglas, looking at the computer screen. I asked Renee,"Why did you miss class today?" She said,"Well. I was just tired. And I was upset, because me and Luke broke up." Douglas said,"Are you serious?" She said," Yeah." As she said this, she looked up at me and started cocking her eyebrows. She was hitting on me hardcore.

Renee and I remained friends for the rest of the time we were in that Sociology class together. She always wanted me to make a move. However, I considered Luke to be a friend, at this point. I'm not the type to back stab somebody like that just to get some ass. I liked Renee very much. She was beautiful, smart, and fun to be around. However, there was also another side to her. A darker side. Just like Luke, she was extremely racist. So was her brother, Robert, the president of Luke's frat. Her entire family was racist. They weren't shy about it, either. I didn't like it. So, I never made a move on Renee while we were in that class together.

The class ended the first week of May, 2006. On May 11th, Renee and Douglas shared a birthday. So, they decided to have their parties together. This was decided prior to Luke and Renee breaking up. Luke was fine with it. Renee's brother came to the party. He was pretty drunk. At one point, he actually licked Douglas on the ear. As if he wanted to have sex with him or something. Then, 5 minutes later he licked Douglas again on the ear. Douglas is one of those 21 year old adults that looks like he is still 14 years old. When I witnessed Robert do this, I figured he must have been Bush style homo. He represents himself to be strait by having girlfriends, but then fucks guys in secret. Given his fraternal connections, I wouldn't be surprised if he is a part of the Illuminati boy raping network.

Obviously, this is what I was suspecting, by this point. Renee was a complete setup. She was planted in my Sociology class. Just like Luke was planted in Douglas' photography class. It was all done to get to me. The Reptilians (Qlippoth) have now successfully managed to infiltrate every aspect of my life. From my job, to my friends, to my classes, and even my love interest. I'm being attacked from all angles here. This isn't simple coincidence. They have this down to a science.

The night after this party, there was a second party at another friend's house. I was there before Luke and Douglas. When they arrived, they immediately walked up to me and Douglas said,"Man. You better give Renee a call. Wow. You better not pass that shit up." Luke was standing right next to him smiling. Douglas shook my hand and so did Luke. I was speechless. It's strange to have a guy tell you it's cool to have you bang his ex-girlfriend. That was a situation I never thought I would ever be in my life.

So, I decided to give Renee a call and see where things went. She was already dating another frat guy in her brother's fraternity, at that point. My reluctance to make a move earlier allowed somebody else to move in. She didn't tell me this, but I figured it out. However, Renee liked me a lot and we started hanging out anyways. We only hung out twice before I decided to cut it off. There was a strange experience with here the second time we did something together.

Renee invited to her friend's apartment a couple blocks from mine. It was just her brother's frat pack having a little get together. Renee sent me text saying,"I better see you there." So, I was like,"AHHH right. Giggity giggity." Immediately when I walked into the apartment I felt unwelcome. I saw 2 of the frat douches look at each other and roll their eyes when I first walked in. Renee and I played a game of beer pong against 2 of them. I was making shots. Renee didn't hit a damn thing. I'm kind of thinking this was on purpose. It seemed like she was trying to miss.

Later, when Renee and I were almost back to my apartment, she passed out while we were making out in the street. Luckily we were right in front of my apartment. So, I decided to just get her inside and let her sleep it off. I couldn't carry her up the steps.For some reason, I felt like I was about to pass out myself. Which was strange, because I didn't drink more than 6 or 7 beers. Nowhere near enough to cause me to pass out. So, I sat down and gently laid Renee's head in my lap. I figured I would have to get her awake to get her up the steps.

I eventually managed to get her talking. She was awake and fully carrying on conversation with me. Out of nowhere, I decided to confront her. I said,"So, why did you call me YAHWEH that one night?" She wouldn't say a word. I said," Are you gonna answer my question?" I got no reply. I said,"What are you doing? I know you're up to something. Are you not going to answer me?" She refused to say anything. I said,"Ok. That's cool. I don't mind. I still like you." Immediately after this, I blacked out. The next morning I woke up in my made bed, on top of the covers, with all of close on. Renee was gone. The frat douches were pressuring Renee and I to finish our beers after we lost the game to them. We were sitting, drinking our beers slowly. One of them came over to us, pointed his finger at our beers, and said,"Hey. You got hurry up and finish those beers. You guys lost." He was very persistent that we finish those beers. I'm convinced these fuckers slipped something in.

A week later, I'm over at Douglas' house. It is June of 2007. I had been working at the job with the suspected shape shifters for about a month. Luke and I were the only people in the living room. He was eating and I was watching the TV. A commercial for a Christian church comes on. The have a Dove as the symbol for their church. I was thinking about how the Dove represents sacrifice, death, and destruction to the Illuminati. Everything is reverse symbolism for them.

As I was watching the commercial and thinking this, Luke looks up from his plate. Immediately he sees the symbol, tilts his head back, and gives out a laugh. He looks at me and points at the screen. I said,"What. Are you talking about the Dove?" He just simply said,"Yeah." Clearly, this mother fucker was reading my mind. How else to explain him saying that when I was just thinking about it in my head. From that point on, I knew this fucker wasn't human. I also knew Renee wasn't human either. There was no other way to explain it.

At this point, I was done with Renee. Fuck dating her. I wasn't about to start dating a shape shifter. So, I cut off contact with Renee. She wanted things to continue. It was just too weird for me. I knew something was going on with these people, at this point. I wasn't sure what, but I knew it was something.

A few months went by. I was meeting some people at a bar downtown. They were a couple of the employees from the job. They wanted me to meet them at a bar that Renee constantly frequents. Before getting there, I had a feeling that I was going to run into Renee. Sure enough, within 2 minutes of arriving I see Renee hugging her boyfriend. She didn't see me. I kept my distance for obvious reasons. They guy she was hugging was the dude who was pressuring Renee and I to finish our drinks.

Renee left her BF to use the restroom. On the way back, she ran into me. Her jaw dropped and she lost her breath for a second when she saw me. She immediately came to me and gave me a huge hug. "It's so good to see you? Are you hear with Doug and Tyler?" I replied,"Nah. Some friends from work." We talked for second. She said,"I have to get back." She gave me another huge hug and a long kiss on the cheek. As we separated she grabbed my hand. She said,"You better call me." I replied," I will." I then tried to let go of her hand. She kept a tight grip and looked at me with a seductive look. She cocked her eyebrows the same way she did that one night. She said again,"Hey.You better call me." I said," Don't worry. I will." Of course, I had no such plan.

My friends and I walked out back so they could smoke a cig at the outdoor bar. 5 minutes later my phone rings. It was Renee. She was calling me 5 minutes after I was just done talking to her. I answered. She said,"Where are you?" I replied," I'm outside. Out back. Come outside." She came outside. I said,"Hey, what are you doing." She said,"I feel like such a slut right now." I laughed and said," Why?" I knew she was referring to the fact that she left her boyfriend to come hang out with me.

We were out there for about 15 minutes. We having fun. Then her boyfriend came out there. They were going to another bar. His name is Kyle. He wanted her to come. She refused to go with him. She wanted to stay with me. He started getting pissed off. He actually said,"Cmon! You bitch!" Before I could say anything, my friend jumped in. He said,"Hey man. You need chill the fuck!" Kyle yelled back,"No man. You chill the fuck out!" Kyle walked off.

My friends started saying,"Don't worry David. We got your back." I replied," Hey. It's cool. Renee can take care of herself." To which she replied,"That's right! I'm a hardcore bitch!" I wasn't going to stick my nose into their argument. I could understand why Kyle was so pissed. He remembered who I was from a few months back. He knew Renee was interested in me then and he didn't want his girlfriend talking to a pretty boy, like me. I would have been angry if I were in his situation. Which is basically the reason I was always reluctant to date Renee in the first place. Due to situations like this and knowing that I would probably be in his shoes at some point down the line.

Renee said,"I'm gonna go outside and let my friends know that I'm gonna hang out with you the rest of the night." She walked out of the bar to talk to her friends. We decided to leave right after and head to another bar. Renee was coming back in as we were leaving. We waited out front while my friends used the restroom.

While we were waiting outside something bizarre happened. Out of nowhere, Renee said," It's very, very important that I find my MAGICKAL self." I said," What?" She said,"My MAGICKAL self. It's very important for me to find my MAGICKAL self. Do you understand?" I simply replied,"Yes."

My friends came outside. We started walking down the street to another bar. Renee stopped at another bar. It was the bar her boyfriend and friends went to. She said,"My friends are in here. I need to go find my Magickal self." I said,"Okay. Well, I'm gonna go with my friends." She said," No. Come with me." I said,"No. I don't want to leave my friends." I wasn't about to walk into a bar where her pissed off boyfriend was. That would only escalate the situation. Renee replied,"But, it's important for me to find my Magickal self." I said,"I know. You go find your Magickal self. I'm gonna go catch up with my friends." She said,"NO."

She ended up coming with me. As we were walking down the street I said,"So that's magick with a "k" that we're talking about here, right?" Renee said,"Right! Magick is badass." I replied,"Magick is badass." We proceeded to the next bar. We started making out at the next bar. Her brother called her while we were there. He must have received word from her boyfriend that she ran off with me. He was pissed off.

To be continued.....

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:49 AM
I can also provide contact information for the 2 women that I'm accusing of being Reptilian Shape Shifters.

freethinker
29-07-2009, 12:40 PM
i have read your comments and find it all particually interesting

i believe that recreational drugs can unlock some of the deeper understandings and thoughts of the mind that have not been affected by education or condtioning

however - you are also discussing what could be some paranoid thoughts, unfortunately canabis is proven to be related to mental illnesses particually paranoid schizophreneia

my advice is to stop taking it and see if the insights go away

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i spoke to a expert in the metal heath education area and he was telling me about an epidemic of people witnessing shapeshifting, however when these people were analysed there was nothing wrong with them at all

it could be the drugs are making you more open/spritual and able to witness things, but they could also be giving you some unwanted side effects

dr_error
29-07-2009, 01:03 PM
i need more time to read all of this..so i can't give my comment at this time.

dsl22
29-07-2009, 08:06 PM
i have read your comments and find it all particually interesting

i believe that recreational drugs can unlock some of the deeper understandings and thoughts of the mind that have not been affected by education or condtioning

however - you are also discussing what could be some paranoid thoughts, unfortunately canabis is proven to be related to mental illnesses particually paranoid schizophreneia

my advice is to stop taking it and see if the insights go away

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i spoke to a expert in the metal heath education area and he was telling me about an epidemic of people witnessing shapeshifting, however when these people were analysed there was nothing wrong with them at all

it could be the drugs are making you more open/spritual and able to witness things, but they could also be giving you some unwanted side effects

Did you read through part 2? Trust me buddy, this is the real deal.

I wish drugs were responsible. However, it isn't a plausible explanation. I didn't hallucinate these two women having reptilian tattoos and making references to blood drinking and cannibalism. They started making those references all on their own. I never once mentioned my personal interest in the subject of Reptilian Shape Shifters. They started making these references as I started taking the information surrounding these subjects seriously. It was as if they could read my mind.

The Reptilians entered my life at the precise moment that I acknowledged their existence. They had their operatives place at my job, my classes at school, and even infiltrated my closest circle of friends.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=410114252&albumID=1292694&imageID=15752503

The one on the right is named Arwyn. Notice the Snake tattoos. Arwyn wore snake ear rings to work on a daily basis for 12 months. She has a snake skin purse. She even wore sunglasses with snakes as the wire frames. The one on the left is named Brandy. She has a tattoo of 2 lizards on her right ankle.

The 2 women, among 10 other employees, started making direct references to the information I was researching in the "privacy" of my own home. I started to fully acknowledge the existence of Reptilian Shape Shifters in July, 2007. This based on research and a previous shape shift I witnessed in the suspicious individual I described in my first post (Zach).

Immediately after I started to believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters these individuals started making direct references to the information I was researching in the privacy of my own home. The harassment continued for the next 10 months, until I quit the job in May of 2008.

Read through my post FULLY. It is important in understanding my situation. Especially, Part II.

hank_scorpio
29-07-2009, 09:12 PM
however - you are also discussing what could be some paranoid thoughts, unfortunately canabis is proven to be related to mental illnesses particually paranoid schizophreneia

prove it there is absolutely ZERO evidence to support the idea that cannabis is linked to schizophreneia. do your own research your spitting out disinformation without even knowing it. You must have picked it up from the corrupt system. cannabis has never been linked to any mental illness. Where are you getting your facts from disinformation.com?

freethinker
29-07-2009, 11:14 PM
hey if you want to smoke it, i'm not going to preach to you

but open your eyes and ears - http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html

"Those who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600% more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than those did not take it."

i have a friend who has suffered serious mental side effects from long term use

its your choice - it could be disinformation, he may have already been ill but i knew him from before


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what did the reptillians have to say when you confronted them as reptillians themselves

dsl22
29-07-2009, 11:26 PM
"A study showed over 50,000 members of the Swedish Army"

Um. I don't trust studies involving the military. They are probably bogus results that can attributed to many other factors.

Perhaps it was their service in the military that made them Schizophrenics. You can't just conclude that it was cannabis causing their schizophrenia based on the fact that they smoked it. There are too many other factors that need to be considered before any conclusion can be draw.

That is the kind of pseudoscience required to prove cannabis causes schizophrenia. It's selective science. Again, involving the military, no less.

Why would take anything coming out of the military seriously?

woodelf
30-07-2009, 01:24 AM
i used to live in austin years ago. what a bummer that so many negative critters are running around there now, but i think i know why they are. they will never be able to get what they want, they are a day late and a dollar short, poor lizards. but, there is a little bookstore in a old wooden house in downtown austin across the street from an indoor mall. that bookstore used to be the coolest place in texas. i'm not sure who the owners are now, but i'm sure you could synchronystically get some assurance there even now. theres a few of us who care not one jot about any slitherers.

may the blessings be

hank_scorpio
30-07-2009, 01:36 AM
hey if you want to smoke it, i'm not going to preach to you

but open your eyes and ears - http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html

"Those who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600% more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than those did not take it."

i have a friend who has suffered serious mental side effects from long term use

its your choice - it could be disinformation, he may have already been ill but i knew him from before

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/01/24/15577.aspx
"According to a new report by a British government advisory body, the regular use of cannabis though it can have real and significant mental health effects it is unlikely to cause schizophrenia."

dsl22
30-07-2009, 01:51 AM
i used to live in austin years ago. what a bummer that so many negative critters are running around there now, but i think i know why they are. they will never be able to get what they want, they are a day late and a dollar short, poor lizards. but, there is a little bookstore in a old wooden house in downtown austin across the street from an indoor mall. that bookstore used to be the coolest place in texas. i'm not sure who the owners are now, but i'm sure you could synchronystically get some assurance there even now. theres a few of us who care not one jot about any slitherers.

may the blessings be

It's funny you mention the bookstore. It is a central focal point of my story.

There is a conspiracy bookstore 10 blocks from my apartment called Brave New Books. It might be a different store. Prior to working at the job with the Reptilians, I synchronously worked with one of the owners of this book store.His name is Harland. After he quit the job, he opened the bookstore.

This was coincidentally taking place at the same time I was having my encounter in the first post. With the person named Zack. I had no idea Harland was into conspiracy information. Much less planning to open a bookstore. I didn't talk about my interest in these subjects. Which is part of the reason it was so strange that these two women (among 10 other employees) started making references to the information I was researching. They both had Reptilian tattoos and made references to blood drinking and cannibalism.

In my opinion, the Reptilians don't want me getting into contact with the owners of the bookstore. They entered my life and started harassing me right around the time I first met Harland. They want me to stay away from those people.


This is the entire point. They don't want me getting into contact with those people. The Reptilians entered my life around a time that would have been key in making contact with these individuals and sharing information. There are numerous people affiliated with that bookstore who know about the Reptilians.

Harland isn't into the Reptilian aspect, but Freeman from the Freeman Perspective is. I ran into Harland at the job I was working with all of the Reptilians. I "coincidentally" delivered a pizza to Harland's house while working at the restaurant with all of the Reptilians.

Harland actually offered to introduce me to Freeman. After this, the harassment from the Reptilians increased exponentially. I stayed away from the bookstore, as a result. Starting to get the point?

Freeman Stewart Swerdlow - YouTube

The bookstore is the reason the Reptilians were harassing me so much. They were afraid of me making contact with like minded individuals and sharing my story. My story validates the information people like David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow, Alex Collier, etc. have to offer.

Did I mention? My father is a federal agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration (D.E.A).

woodelf
30-07-2009, 02:05 AM
yes, you did, my brother is a retired new mexico state policeman. means nothing. but, like i just told molly on her lizard story just now, tho, i dont think she read it. i used to be harrassed, in texas, til i went to an eck meeting. it only took one and them sukkas have never bothered me since. they know you have potential to be a warrior for the light is all, they're so petty, ha. anyway, that was 1975, my first meeting thats when the bookstore was going strong, too. ask the guys there now if they ever heard of charlie broom. he's the original bookstore person. actually, your problems may be over from this point forward, ha. just stay strong, do all things in moderation, ok?
i loved it in austin...

dsl22
30-07-2009, 02:16 AM
yes, you did, my brother is a retired new mexico state policeman. means nothing. but, like i just told molly on her lizard story just now, tho, i dont think she read it. i used to be harrassed, in texas, til i went to an eck meeting. it only took one and them sukkas have never bothered me since. they know you have potential to be a warrior for the light is all, they're so petty, ha. anyway, that was 1975, my first meeting thats when the bookstore was going strong, too. ask the guys there now if they ever heard of charlie broom. he's the original bookstore person. actually, your problems may be over from this point forward, ha. just stay strong, do all things in moderation, ok?
i loved it in austin...

I've stayed away from the bookstore. I don't talk to any of those guys. I'm sure the bookstore you're referring to was the inspiration for this one.

woodelf
30-07-2009, 02:26 AM
inspiration? nah, it's just the ongoin battle tween good and not-so-good. look, i smoked pot for years and i'm aware that it kinda shreds our aura and makes one suseptable(sp. ha!) to negative influences. you need to go where the nice people are. there is an answer, there are fine people around that will help you. thats all...

armoured_amazon
30-07-2009, 02:36 AM
i need more time to read all of this..so i can't give my comment at this time.

Me too. Subbing thread for when I'm awake.

nocturne of shadow
30-07-2009, 03:14 AM
the homeless guy sounds like a religon nut job or mabey that's the point, as he's fiting in and being able to tell you info and stuff?

dsl22
30-07-2009, 08:50 AM
the homeless guy sounds like a religon nut job or mabey that's the point, as he's fiting in and being able to tell you info and stuff?

Yes. This was my original impression of the homeless guy. I'm not big on religion at all. I was very much in an atheistic mind set when these experiences started happening.

However, you have to understand. I was having discussions with close friends and family members about how these people at my job may possibly be "demonic" / extra-dimensional entities. This was months before this homeless guy walked into my job and started talking about how our species was under "demonic attack." Those were his words.

This homeless guy KNEW that I was aware of these people being non-human entities of some kind. It was as if he was reading my mind. I was suspecting these individuals of being Reptilian Shape Shifters/ Demons for months prior to this homeless individual approaching me about the issue.

He was fully aware of my knowledge regarding the subject of extra-dimensional entities. It was bizarre. Plus, he "coincidentally" showed up at 2 separate restaurants that I worked at. These two encounters with this individual took place a year apart from one another. In restaurants that were located on the opposite side of town from one another.

It's all about synchronicity. I don't believe it was just a coincidence that I encountered this individual in multiple locations, under such bizarre circumstances.

geewhizz
30-07-2009, 09:00 AM
Wow what good scifi/fictional stories you have there. You must have a very vivid imagination. Try writing this fiction for a profession, its quite entertaining.

dsl22
30-07-2009, 09:14 AM
inspiration? nah, it's just the ongoin battle tween good and not-so-good. look, i smoked pot for years and i'm aware that it kinda shreds our aura and makes one suseptable(sp. ha!) to negative influences. you need to go where the nice people are. there is an answer, there are fine people around that will help you. thats all...

Don't get me wrong. I would love to get into contact with these individuals. However, I've been warned not to do that. I'm taking those warnings very seriously.

The harassment has drastically decreased since I've decided to keep my distance from these individuals. I quit that job with the suspicious individuals back in May of 2008. Ever since then, things have been fine.

However, the harassment picked up again when I posted this information on GLP 2 months ago. My email was hacked into and I was locked out. A few days after posting the thread, I started receiving harassing phone calls from an individual that is a FREEMASON. For 3 nights in row, this person called my phone 3 to 4 times a night. Each time he would refuse to answer me when I said "hello."

One time, I actually heard him speaking about me. It seemed as if a third party was connected to the line. As if this individual were speaking to somebody that I wasn't able to hear. His exact words were this," It's one of my friends. He is obsessed with researching this stuff." He was clearly referring to me. This person has constantly made references to demon conjuring and has openly admitted to me that higher level Freemasons participate in ritual human sacrifice. HE IS A FUCKING POSTER CHILD FOR THE ILLUMINATI.

He was clearly having a conversation with somebody else on the line. I couldn't hear the third party's replies, but I could definitely tell he was speaking to somebody.

This person is an aspiring Republican Congressman. He is already receiving financial backing from the Republican Party. The GOP payed for this kid to fly out to couple of McCain conventions during the election. He is, by his own admission, a "Nazi." He has blond hair, blue eyes, and pale skin.

I actually just found out tonight that this person was accepted to Notre Dame Law School. I'm convinced that he will be a Republican Congressman some years from now.

Receiving harassing phone calls from this individual doesn't help the situation. Furthermore, the original forum I posted this information on was Tooltabs.net. A few days after posting this information on GLP, that forum was hacked and shut down by an outside party for over a week.

The people on that forum started taking me seriously after the entire forum shut down because of my story.

dsl22
30-07-2009, 09:17 AM
Wow what good scifi/fictional stories you have there. You must have a very vivid imagination. Try writing this fiction for a profession, its quite entertaining.

What fiction? This is my life we're talking about here.

pezza19
30-07-2009, 01:46 PM
All sounds very interesting... you don't seem like a paranoid schizo to me... seems to me your been targeted by TPTB and your being monitered. I definitly believe that halucigens shift our conciousness into other dimensions allowing us to see through the programming. It is very strange that the 2 chicks have them kind of tattoo's. Also The homeless person could be a lightworker... perhaps not human also... Mabye he puts on a front and was there for your protection?

I'd like to hear more of the story, Is everything ok lately???
I hope so buddy.

Peaceout
x
Pezza

dsl22
30-07-2009, 07:39 PM
All sounds very interesting... you don't seem like a paranoid schizo to me... seems to me your been targeted by TPTB and your being monitered. I definitly believe that halucigens shift our conciousness into other dimensions allowing us to see through the programming. It is very strange that the 2 chicks have them kind of tattoo's. Also The homeless person could be a lightworker... perhaps not human also... Mabye he puts on a front and was there for your protection?

I'd like to hear more of the story, Is everything ok lately???
I hope so buddy.

Peaceout
x
Pezza

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Yeah, I suspected the homeless man of being a lightworker, as well. I'm fully convinced that he wasn't human. I kept seeing UFOs around the times that I would come into contact with him. On the night of our strange conversation about our species being under "demonic attack", I actually witnessed a UFO 20 minutes before he walked into the restaurant and told me this.

In the middle of that conversation, I could tell the other employees weren't happy. They couldn't hear what the old man and I were talking about, from where they were standing. I was sitting at a table in the dining area, eating some food. The homeless man was in the dining area with me. We were alone. There was a wall in between the dining area and kitchen. The other employees were located in the kitchen area.

During our conversation, I could clearly see the other employees in the reflection on the window, at the front of the restaurant. Arwyn (girl with snake tattoos) was arguing with the head manager named Dennis. Through the reflection of the glass, I could see them pointing over at our table and arguing with each other. They were clearly upset over the conversation I was having with this guy.

Dennis actually came out of the kitchen and said,"Cmon David. Let's go outside and smoke a bowl." He was pretty persistent. I could easily tell they were trying to break us apart.

It was a strange experience, to say the least. I'm sure these kinds of extra-dimensional surveillance tactics are being used on numerous individuals around the world. I actually came into contact with one of these individuals. I described him in my first post.

In all probability, it's happening with some, if not, all of you and you don't even realize it yet.

dsl22
30-07-2009, 08:04 PM
I'd like to hear more of the story, Is everything ok lately???
I hope so buddy.



Everything was fine for awhile. If I keep my mouth shut, nothing happens. Whenever I start to push the information, shit gets strange.

Is anyone else having a problem with GLP right now? They have an auto ban system. I have been banned from that twice. However, a couple of days ago, I received a message anytime I went to GLP saying that I had to start paying a monthly subscription.

I paid it last night for the first time ($10 FUCKING JOKE.) The system still says my IP address is banned. Even after paying. I emailed them last night and still haven't received a response.

Is anyone else having this same problem over at GLP? Ever since I started posting this information on that forum, I've had problems. My email was hacked, the harassing phone calls from a Freemason, and the original forum I posted on was temporarily shut down by an outside source (tooltabs.net.)

My thread on GLP has the exact same title as this thread. If you copy paste this title onto GLP's search engine, you will find my thread over there. There is a lot more info on that forum.

My name on that forum is The Third Eye ( * ). My name on tooltabs.net is Tesla.

nocturne of shadow
30-07-2009, 08:45 PM
what ever you do don't keep your mouth shut, don't be scared of the them cause there no better then us as were all the same, even if they threaten you just stand your ground and even go as far as show them love as that's what life is all about loveing everything and everyone. though to be honest if i saw a fucking repitlian i might get a little scared :P but im working on that aspect cause lol just because something is diffrent doesn't mean it's not natureal.

kevin82
31-07-2009, 04:42 AM
That's a very odd logo for a bakery.

http://www.thenewworldbakery.com/thenewworldbakery.gif

metacomet
31-07-2009, 07:15 AM
This is an incredible story, thank you for bringing it here.

I have deduced through observation of my own close friends that there are reptilian entities within some people that they aren't aware of. So they say and do things without having the capacity to inspect their own actions. My 'friend' jokes about killing babies. Haha, how funny - you're angry so you want to stab babies? Even as an expression, it's just not funny (sort of like 'if you eat a vegetarian are you a vegetarian.') These are cues from within the people that they have a darkness inside them.

When someone comes along and shines a light (or is aware) of this part of their body of consciousness, all of a sudden the reptilian consciousness within these people will start to lash out at us, or will even push us out of their life.

danceswithbunnies
31-07-2009, 09:42 PM
That was some interesting reading...

Listen if you find out any more about the occult connection with reptilians please post it?

Since you have been doing research you may already be aware of the following page...but for those who aren't:

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/

I need to go back and reread some of the articles it talks about the ets being linked with occult and ritual magick certainly writers like RAW make that connection.

From that webpage above...here is a link to an article specifically entitled:
"Ritual Magic, Mind Control and the UFO Phenomenon "
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/UFO_Ritual_Magic.htm

dsl22
03-08-2009, 11:16 AM
This is an incredible story, thank you for bringing it here.

I have deduced through observation of my own close friends that there are reptilian entities within some people that they aren't aware of. So they say and do things without having the capacity to inspect their own actions. My 'friend' jokes about killing babies. Haha, how funny - you're angry so you want to stab babies? Even as an expression, it's just not funny (sort of like 'if you eat a vegetarian are you a vegetarian.') These are cues from within the people that they have a darkness inside them.

When someone comes along and shines a light (or is aware) of this part of their body of consciousness, all of a sudden the reptilian consciousness within these people will start to lash out at us, or will even push us out of their life.

I know exactly what you mean. Anyone can be possessed by one of these entities. When they are, it has the same effect as putting a person into a hypnotic state. The entity can force that person to do things that are within the realm that person's own morals. Making fun of a person is something everyone does. The entity can force the person to do that.

However, getting that person to kill, or perform some other kind of immoral act, isn't possible.

With that being said, I should clarify, this is NOT what is happening in this situation. It is far more complex than that. My situation actually does involve gang stalking by extra-dimensional entities, combined with clandestine agencies like the CIA, FBI, Mussad, etc. On top of Reptilian tattoos, references to blood drinking, etc. there were other aspects about that job that were little too "coincidental" to be a "coincidence."

For example, as I was finding out about child kidnapping rings, a "random" person walked into the restaurant one day with a container. It was full of candy and a picture of a MISSING CHILD on the container. There was a money slot for people to donate money. The children on the container were kids that were missing since 1995 and sometimes older. This would make these kids about 28 years old.

You really think that is a random "coincidence," because I don't? This person asked my manager if he could leave the container there for people to donate. He said he would return each week to fill it with more candy. He changed the picture out each week. Each week I had to walk past this container and be reminded of this shit.

Obviously, somebody was letting me know that they were paying attention to my internet activity. DO YOU GET THE POINT?

GANG STALKING. Look it up. My situation is a textbook example. Only it involves extra-dimensional entities, instead of just people. It's much more complex than what traditional researchers into Gang Stalking tactics understand. Most people perceive Gang Stalking as being NAZI in origin.

Keep in mind, these were the same Nazis forming societies like the Vril Society, etc. Organizations that revolved around occult teachings and the opening of multi-dimensional portals. Gang Stalking isn't human in origin.

dsl22
03-08-2009, 12:05 PM
That's a very odd logo for a bakery.

http://www.thenewworldbakery.com/thenewworldbakery.gif

I know. That shit tripped me out when I saw that logo on the truck. Especially, considering the circumstances.

The amount of subconscious symbolism that was being thrown at me the entire time was unreal. It was one synchronicity after another. Here is another funny coincidence that pertains to this information. This one always tripped me out.

David Adair was Disclosure Project eyewitness that worked on UFOs. He claimed that the film Independence Day actually had fairly accurate depictions of the inside of Area 51. Meaning that the makers of the film were insiders or insiders worked on the film.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Here is the synchronicity that applies to my situation. My screen name is dsl22. My name is David Steven Leakey. In the film, Independence Day, Jeff Goldbloom's character was named "David." Will Smith's character was named "Steven." So, "David Steven" saved the human species from the malevolent extraterrestrial entities.

In the film, Men In Black II, Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones are looking for the "Light of the Zartha," which ends up being Rosario Dawson's character. She is built up as being some kind of messianic figure in the film. In the film, WS and TLJ show up at her job to find a KEY to a locker. My last name is "LeaKEY." The malevolent ET also shows up Rosario Dawson's job looking for her.

Rosario Dawson's character was working at a PIZZA JOINT. That is where I was working when all these strange things happened with these people.

Trippy, huh?

starpass
03-08-2009, 02:17 PM
prove it there is absolutely ZERO evidence to support the idea that cannabis is linked to schizophreneia. do your own research your spitting out disinformation without even knowing it. You must have picked it up from the corrupt system. cannabis has never been linked to any mental illness. Where are you getting your facts from disinformation.com?


May we all say 'Amen' to that

dsl22
04-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Apparently, Brandy and Arwyn are threatening legal action if I don't stop spreading information about them.

I'm shaking in me boots.

metacomet
04-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Apparently, Brandy and Arwyn are threatening legal action if I don't stop spreading information about them.

I'm shaking in me boots.

*shrug* They have pictures on Myspace. That's public information. If they don't want those pictures to be seen, they can make it a private profile.

How did they find out that you were talking about them unless they are in fact part of a group which is monitoring you?

Yikes.

dsl22
04-08-2009, 11:43 PM
*shrug* They have pictures on Myspace. That's public information. If they don't want those pictures to be seen, they can make it a private profile.

How did they find out that you were talking about them unless they are in fact part of a group which is monitoring you?

Yikes.

Here is the really CREEPY thing. Why would they threaten legal action after 2 months?

I just found out that the answer to this question in a conversation with my DEA father. I was threatened by a Freemason this past weekend? I instructed my father to call this individual and warn him to back off, last night. My father didn't want to do that. He talked to a couple of lawyer friends in his DEA office about his legal standing on that action. Of course, they told him it was illegal.

This conversation took place immediately prior to that statement being made on GLP. I don't think it was a coincidence? They knew this conversation took place between my father and 2 lawyers.

Very creepy. After hearing that, I decided to represent the thread as being a hoax. They have a lot of hoaxes over there at GLP.

torz
05-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Wow what good scifi/fictional stories you have there. You must have a very vivid imagination. Try writing this fiction for a profession, its quite entertaining.


How RUDE are you?????
Why are you even on this forum or any other like it if you think that this young man's post is a Sci-Fi story!!!

Be sceptical but don't close your mind to the possibilities that there are things in this world that we have yet to find out about...

I feel this man is telling us the truth as he see's it, so I for one am willing and have read the entire thread and digested it in a little corner for future reference...

If you don't like it , don't read it but most of all Don't RIDICULE........ THEY are very fond of doing that!!! are YOU one of them then????

hawk
05-08-2009, 03:32 PM
geewhiz is a troll looking to stir up trouble. Mods,be on the look out for this one,please?
Something tells me, He is not what he appears to be. Undercover troll! LOL!:p
dsl22, be extremely careful, we don't want to hear anything bad happening to you. ;)

whitewolf
05-08-2009, 06:08 PM
dsl22, I have a story, an experience that happened 13 yrs ago, concerning reptilians which today due to a incredible piece of synchronicity has become as fresh as when it happened. It's still cooking my noodle!!

A few days ago I recieved a 'succor punch' (google it) which claims to protect from negative thought forms, alien technologies, surveillance by or from anything in any dimension or time line amongst other things. It's a crystal which is super charged using a moibus coil and a small electrical charge. Maybe that's an oversimplification, it's as much as I understand.

I got it because of the reptilian experience I'd had and because I have felt 'shadowed' by this ever since. Since I've used it I've felt much lighter, clearer and freer and I feel this synchronistic event today has happened because of it.

My point is;
get yourself one. :)

ytch
05-08-2009, 07:13 PM
That's a very odd logo for a bakery.

http://www.thenewworldbakery.com/thenewworldbakery.gif

Yep, indeed, I wonder what the black red gold- german banner means..

maybe nothing..

L&L,

y

metacomet
05-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Yep, indeed, I wonder what the black red gold- german banner means..

maybe nothing..

L&L,

y

Also, maybe it's just me, but that pretzel looks like a double headed golden snake.

dsl22
06-08-2009, 12:28 AM
dsl22, I have a story, an experience that happened 13 yrs ago, concerning reptilians which today due to a incredible piece of synchronicity has become as fresh as when it happened. It's still cooking my noodle!!

A few days ago I recieved a 'succor punch' (google it) which claims to protect from negative thought forms, alien technologies, surveillance by or from anything in any dimension or time line amongst other things. It's a crystal which is super charged using a moibus coil and a small electrical charge. Maybe that's an oversimplification, it's as much as I understand.

I got it because of the reptilian experience I'd had and because I have felt 'shadowed' by this ever since. Since I've used it I've felt much lighter, clearer and freer and I feel this synchronistic event today has happened because of it.

My point is;
get yourself one. :)


Organite?

dsl22
06-08-2009, 12:29 AM
Also, maybe it's just me, but that pretzel looks like a double headed golden snake.

Yeah. It does.

whitewolf
06-08-2009, 08:13 AM
Organite?

Nope but also helpful, it's a succor punch. :)

wakeup2nwo
17-08-2009, 06:38 PM
Great Read, hope everything ok with you?

ive only opened my mind just over a year now, and its amazing that you think you know it all when you dont know anything. and when you find out that information that opens your eyes and makes you see differently, you realise that you know nothing! your mind is like an umbrella, it only functions when it is open.

Peace

tezza
26-08-2009, 11:42 AM
dsl22 very interesting sounds like your in the middle of it , if it's true as you describe they may be more common among us than previously thought. you name alot of people and point the finger, hope your up to date with your psychic protection.

dsl22
04-09-2009, 03:49 AM
Great Read, hope everything ok with you?

ive only opened my mind just over a year now, and its amazing that you think you know it all when you dont know anything. and when you find out that information that opens your eyes and makes you see differently, you realise that you know nothing! your mind is like an umbrella, it only functions when it is open.

Peace

Everything is fine.

wakeuptime
04-09-2009, 06:08 PM
This is fascinating. I've haven't read it all yet but will keep it for later. Sounds like you are really in the midst of it and very aware. I think we're all headed that way and will see more as we become increasingly conscious.

That bakery logo is telling; looks like the entry to the City of London.

mark1963
04-09-2009, 11:19 PM
This is great, I have in the last 2 days watched swerdlows film the language of hyperspace. He talks about psychic protection. I have stated using it and wow, what a difference.

melinda980
05-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Everything is fine.

I read all your posts concerning your experiences with reptilian hybrids and I found them the most horrifying and interesting revelations to date in this forum.
Thank you for sharing them.
I have a friend who has a female draco guide. When she first contacted me and told me about who and what her bloodline was I felt the colours dark green and dark red and a pair of golden eyes look into my mind. He guide was not evil and the eyes were accompanied by the feeling of warm and love. My friend explained some of the history of reptilian beings: those who lost their soul matrix (these male warrior beings responsible for the NWO) and those who work against them (those reptilian beings who are female and are of the Mother Creator Dragon Cult).
This is part of what she said about them. I've cut and pasted the following:

'I'm originally from Orion... I jumped down in to this time matrix here to 3d earth... I went in to help rescue another "fallen" loved one I knew I would get stuck in the reincarnation cycle here on Earth but I also volunteered to be here for the assention... I'm here to anchor in the light frequencies and help activate the grids of the planet... I had to become very human and experience many incarnations as a human to be able to do the work I'm here to do...
When she and I separated... the reptilian cloned male warrior faction kind of had an uprising against the very female matriarchal reptilian society that existed. They raped and tortured them. and kept them as virtual prisoners... They needed the females to reproduce and to use their dimensional space travel powers as well as their psychic abilities..... Up until then, the dominant females had run the show and the warrior cast were fed up with it and quite rightly so... they had been bred with no emotion by the females so they would be better soldiers... ----- was a prisoner as she had been a priestess in thier mother creator dragon cult... so had I... Her job with me, now here on Earth, was to stay connected through our DNA portals...and under her oppressors design ... influence and control me... She of course didn't obey... she did that on the surface of things ... back in the time of Atlantis when I got very involved in the Dark Brotherhood magic rituals but as she has grown more powerful in her ways of connecting with me secretly undetected by them as well as the obvious stuff they were forcing her to do... she has taught me so much true universal history and helped me with my mission and when her own circumstances changed and she was able to be more free... she began to reflect my emotions back the other way and use the positive emotions for her own psychic protection and for education for the emotionally dead male aggressive reptilians who wanted to learn and experience emotion.... There's stuff I can't say... as I'm paranoid that the negitive reptilians can infiltrate and it's stuff she doesn't want me to put in to mental thought forms and word as they can read those but it's all very interesting...'

I have deleted the name of her guide. Her guide is being monitored by these negative beings and after her guide entered my mind I felt another pair of eyes enter my mind. These eyes were a dull red and they felt like they were of a low vibration, unpleasant and threatening. This happened twice and I started noticing a lot of large bluebottle flies buzzing against my window. For a week I had to keep removing these things and every time I opened this same blind there would be more. I checked out every possible nook and cranny and found no entrance hole they could have crawled in from. It suddenly stopped happening after a week.
Physically I know that reptilian beings are most often pictured with yellow eyes, but on the spiritual plane the lower vibrations entered my mind with dull red coloured eyes and my friend's guide with bright gold eyes. I know that red carries a low vibration and gold is a much higher vibration.
I know for a fact that they monitor anyone who is of their race and working against them and now you've revealed that they are doing the same to human beings who know intimately what they are. They fear revelation. What human would follow them if they know what they truly are? Keep on revealing this to the world. This is a good site to do this.
Because of continued furious interbreeding with humans, many of these hybrids need to keep drinking human blood in order to maintain the integrity of their physiology. They have too many reptilian genes in their hybrid form so this is the reason why they indulge in so many blood sacrifices and blood drinking. They not only need the blood but also the adrenaline and emotions created by torturing their victims.

deathbeast
05-09-2009, 11:08 PM
"A study showed over 50,000 members of the Swedish Army"

Um. I don't trust studies involving the military. They are probably bogus results that can attributed to many other factors.

Perhaps it was their service in the military that made them Schizophrenics. You can't just conclude that it was cannabis causing their schizophrenia based on the fact that they smoked it. There are too many other factors that need to be considered before any conclusion can be draw.

That is the kind of pseudoscience required to prove cannabis causes schizophrenia. It's selective science. Again, involving the military, no less.

Why would take anything coming out of the military seriously?


Dude,
the human brain is a very complex yet very sensitive organ if you take any substance that affects your brainwaves you are running the risk of developing severe psychological problems. im not preaching, just telling it as it is.

dsl22
06-09-2009, 04:44 AM
im not preaching, just telling it as it is.

Yes. You are preaching. You should stop.

deathbeast
06-09-2009, 07:00 PM
Bite me, 22.
clearly from the original post we can deduce that the poster is experiencing some form mental health issue, i am not mocking nor am i preaching. i am clearly stating the the human brain is very complex and anything that disrupts the electrical signal within the brain can and do cause Schizophrenic responses and could cause the person 'see' things that aren't there.

dsl22
07-09-2009, 05:23 AM
Bite me, 22.
i am not mocking nor am i preaching.

Agreed. You are TROLLING. Now go crawl back under that rock from which you came.

:)

mondo23
07-09-2009, 03:52 PM
...anything that disrupts the electrical signal within the brain can and do cause Schizophrenic responses and could cause the person 'see' things that aren't there.

Or see things that may be there.
Noone can possibly tell anyone else what they have or have not experienced, Schizophrenic or not.
These things are real enough to the experiencer.

lw71
07-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Maybe you should get some.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

"They don't like it up 'em Cpt. Mainwaring "

( Quote is culturally dependent )

deathbeast
07-09-2009, 11:13 PM
Agreed. You are TROLLING. Now go crawl back under that rock from which you came. :)

the response of a man without an answer.
please tell me, veintidós, if these so called shapeshifting reptilians exist then why are there no photos or footage of any kind? also why is it that the esteemed Mr. Icke only began to speak of these "creatures" in his book The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World which was published in 1999
were as the famous TV Series "V:the series" was first aired in 26th October 1984.

what say you? or do you want to accuse me of living under a bridge again?

dsl22
08-09-2009, 12:37 AM
the response of a man without an answer.


Answer to what? You didn't ask any questions until this post, moron.

David Icke didn't find out about Reptilians until the 90s. I'm not even sure what your point is by asking this question. Judging from your poor grammar and reasoning skills, I would assume that you're too stupid to understand that there is no point to asking this question.

People were discussing Reptilians before the television serious "V." Here is an article written on the subject from 1976. A full 8 years before that television show ever aired. The fact that David Icke didn't speak on the subject until the 90s is completely insignificant. Like I said, you're too stupid to understand this.

http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

Thomas Costello claimed to work there in the late 1970s.

UFO Hunters Thomas Costello case - YouTube

The fact that David Icke didn't start talking about the subject until the late 90s is completely irrelevant. You fucking moron.

You sound just like the TROLL earlier in this thread. There was another TROLL that posted about a pseudoscientific connection between cannabis and schizophrenia. I'll bet your the same person. Did you make another account to appear to be a different person? LOL.

:D

What brought you to this forum in the first place? You clearly don't have any interest in the subject. You haven't done a shred of research. Otherwise, you wouldn't be asking such stupid questions.

deathbeast
08-09-2009, 01:54 AM
considering that my point regarding Reptilians was made on the David Icke website, it does not seem like a massive leap of faith to assume that i was drawing a parallel between the two. Seeing as your one brain cell is dedicated to taking umbrage at anyone that has an opinion which does go hand in hand with your own, you would not have picked up on that.
but still as long as you are happy.
I asked for evidence of these so called "Reptilian" people, yet you saw fit to ignore this, i find my self asking why?
can it possibly be that no such evidence exists? surely not! someone with such great reasoning skills and well researched information as you would be able to produce said evidence.

yet, you have not because there is no evidence to back up your claim is there veintidós?
supposition and here say do not count as evidence, just as finding tracks of Bigfoot does not conclusively prove Bigfoot exists.

I do no need to hide behind multiple usernames to post comments on this site, if i find a post that i disagree with i will post to that end.

dsl22
08-09-2009, 07:09 AM
I asked for evidence of these so called "Reptilian" people, yet you saw fit to ignore this, i find my self asking why?



Here is a video of the BLUE EYED Bush Sr. showing YELLOW EYES with slit Reptilian pupils.

Most Amazing Video Ever! President Bush is reptilian! - YouTube

Here is a picture of two of the Reptilian Shape Shifters that I was personally in contact with. The one on the right is named Arwyn Hicks. She has a tattoo of 2 snakes on her right arm. She wears snake earrings on a daily basis. Her sunglasses had snakes as the wires.

She constantly made dozens of references to blood drinking and cannibalism during the 12 month time period that I worked with this individual. I NEVER once mentioned an interest in these subjects. She could telepathically read my mind.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=410114252&albumID=1292694&imageID=15752503

Brandy (right) had a tattoo of two reptilian lizards on her right ankle. Arwyn and Brandy constantly had conversations pertaining to blood drinking and cannibalism. They spoke about these issues in a mundane manner. As if they were discussing the weather.

Conclusive evidence? Nope. Theoretical evidence? Yes.

Now crawl back to the lodge MASON BOY. Just goes to show how little power you pussies have. You can't do anything more to me than troll my threads. PUSSY.

:D

dsl22
08-09-2009, 07:49 AM
I read all your posts concerning your experiences with reptilian hybrids and I found them the most horrifying and interesting revelations to date in this forum.
Thank you for sharing them.
I have a friend who has a female draco guide. When she first contacted me and told me about who and what her bloodline was I felt the colours dark green and dark red and a pair of golden eyes look into my mind. He guide was not evil and the eyes were accompanied by the feeling of warm and love. My friend explained some of the history of reptilian beings: those who lost their soul matrix (these male warrior beings responsible for the NWO) and those who work against them (those reptilian beings who are female and are of the Mother Creator Dragon Cult).
This is part of what she said about them. I've cut and pasted the following:

'I'm originally from Orion... I jumped down in to this time matrix here to 3d earth... I went in to help rescue another "fallen" loved one I knew I would get stuck in the reincarnation cycle here on Earth but I also volunteered to be here for the assention... I'm here to anchor in the light frequencies and help activate the grids of the planet... I had to become very human and experience many incarnations as a human to be able to do the work I'm here to do...
When she and I separated... the reptilian cloned male warrior faction kind of had an uprising against the very female matriarchal reptilian society that existed. They raped and tortured them. and kept them as virtual prisoners... They needed the females to reproduce and to use their dimensional space travel powers as well as their psychic abilities..... Up until then, the dominant females had run the show and the warrior cast were fed up with it and quite rightly so... they had been bred with no emotion by the females so they would be better soldiers... ----- was a prisoner as she had been a priestess in thier mother creator dragon cult... so had I... Her job with me, now here on Earth, was to stay connected through our DNA portals...and under her oppressors design ... influence and control me... She of course didn't obey... she did that on the surface of things ... back in the time of Atlantis when I got very involved in the Dark Brotherhood magic rituals but as she has grown more powerful in her ways of connecting with me secretly undetected by them as well as the obvious stuff they were forcing her to do... she has taught me so much true universal history and helped me with my mission and when her own circumstances changed and she was able to be more free... she began to reflect my emotions back the other way and use the positive emotions for her own psychic protection and for education for the emotionally dead male aggressive reptilians who wanted to learn and experience emotion.... There's stuff I can't say... as I'm paranoid that the negitive reptilians can infiltrate and it's stuff she doesn't want me to put in to mental thought forms and word as they can read those but it's all very interesting...'

I have deleted the name of her guide. Her guide is being monitored by these negative beings and after her guide entered my mind I felt another pair of eyes enter my mind. These eyes were a dull red and they felt like they were of a low vibration, unpleasant and threatening. This happened twice and I started noticing a lot of large bluebottle flies buzzing against my window. For a week I had to keep removing these things and every time I opened this same blind there would be more. I checked out every possible nook and cranny and found no entrance hole they could have crawled in from. It suddenly stopped happening after a week.
Physically I know that reptilian beings are most often pictured with yellow eyes, but on the spiritual plane the lower vibrations entered my mind with dull red coloured eyes and my friend's guide with bright gold eyes. I know that red carries a low vibration and gold is a much higher vibration.
I know for a fact that they monitor anyone who is of their race and working against them and now you've revealed that they are doing the same to human beings who know intimately what they are. They fear revelation. What human would follow them if they know what they truly are? Keep on revealing this to the world. This is a good site to do this.
Because of continued furious interbreeding with humans, many of these hybrids need to keep drinking human blood in order to maintain the integrity of their physiology. They have too many reptilian genes in their hybrid form so this is the reason why they indulge in so many blood sacrifices and blood drinking. They not only need the blood but also the adrenaline and emotions created by torturing their victims.

Thanks for the positive feedback Melinda. I've actually read through your thread. Even before reading your comment. I haven't managed to get through all of it. However, the parts I did read were very interesting.

Your contact seems legit from what I can see. The parallels between the malevolent entities discussed in your thread, and the suspicious individuals in mine, are uncanny. Based on what I've seen in your thread I would say this person is absolutely in contact with a Draco guide. A person who was just fooling around wouldn't have that good of an understanding of the mentality of these creatures.

The talk about eating humans the same we talk about cows. It's a mentality you would only understand if you were personally in contact with one of them. This is why I believe your contact is legitimate. It doesn't surprise me at all that a Draco would turn sides and decide to work with our species, instead of against us.

In Thomas Costello's situation, Reptilians were expressing discontent for the medical experiments taking place at the Dulce, NM facility. Reptilians and Greys were being used for experimentation the same way the humans were. The Reptilians didn't like to see their own kind used for such actions.

It serves to benefit both of our species for the Reptilians to start turning over to our side and assist in our awakening. Both of our political hierarchies are overwhelmingly corrupt. Their actions don't speak for the entire species and they don't benefit either one. They only benefit the hierarchy of both species. Which is the entire point. The Illuminati is an organization involving multiple species, human and none.

Who knows whether or not Costello's testimony is true. The point is, this aspect of his testimony has it's parallels with your claims of being in contact with a person that has a benevolent Draco guide who is willing to help.

Again, thanks for the positive feedback. I look forward to discussing these issues with you further.

johnthejedi24
10-09-2009, 11:50 AM
I have read all of your story and I do not yet know If I believe you or not.:( But still, if these things have happened to you...good luck.:) By the way, have you had any recent encounters with reptilians or any other kinds of entities or unique/strange situations?

getmeout
10-09-2009, 06:34 PM
delete..

deathbeast
10-09-2009, 11:21 PM
theory
noun
°An unproven conjecture.

22, Bush may very well have blue eyes and the pixelated video you posted is far from conclusive proof. It could easily be a lighting issue or some from of conjunctivitis. remember just because i sounds too easy does not mean that it is wrong. I also looked at you link of the two "reptiles" Just because someone has snake tattoos does not mean that they are a shape shifting beastie, 1000's of people all over the world have them. does having a buzz cut make you a marine? or a white supremacist or (specific to European football) a football hooligan? I talk about music most days and i own a Guitar, but it does not make me a musician. i own a computer but it does not make me a hacker.
you have offered up what you feel to be genuine examples of Reptilian activity, you have my respect for that. you know your own mind and i am not trying to change it, just trying to get my point across.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 02:04 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback Melinda. I've actually read through your thread. Even before reading your comment. I haven't managed to get through all of it. However, the parts I did read were very interesting.

Your contact seems legit from what I can see. The parallels between the malevolent entities discussed in your thread, and the suspicious individuals in mine, are uncanny. Based on what I've seen in your thread I would say this person is absolutely in contact with a Draco guide. A person who was just fooling around wouldn't have that good of an understanding of the mentality of these creatures.

The talk about eating humans the same we talk about cows. It's a mentality you would only understand if you were personally in contact with one of them. This is why I believe your contact is legitimate. It doesn't surprise me at all that a Draco would turn sides and decide to work with our species, instead of against us.

In Thomas Costello's situation, Reptilians were expressing discontent for the medical experiments taking place at the Dulce, NM facility. Reptilians and Greys were being used for experimentation the same way the humans were. The Reptilians didn't like to see their own kind used for such actions.

It serves to benefit both of our species for the Reptilians to start turning over to our side and assist in our awakening. Both of our political hierarchies are overwhelmingly corrupt. Their actions don't speak for the entire species and they don't benefit either one. They only benefit the hierarchy of both species. Which is the entire point. The Illuminati is an organization involving multiple species, human and none.

Who knows whether or not Costello's testimony is true. The point is, this aspect of his testimony has it's parallels with your claims of being in contact with a person that has a benevolent Draco guide who is willing to help.

Again, thanks for the positive feedback. I look forward to discussing these issues with you further.[/quote]

Not at all, dsl22. The following is what I have found out about the reptilian physiology over the years (and other stuff).

Part 1

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Reptilian.html (http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Reptilian.html)

Because reptilians have mixed in with humans so well you have those that are lizards in humanoid form and those that are merely human in form. They've interbred to the point that it's very difficult to tell who is who. E.g. a person may have the physical make up of a reptilian but the nature of a grey or vice versa; the body structure of a grey with the nature of a reptilian.
Reptilians are cold blooded and have to have a balanced environment to maintain their body temperature. The 'soldier' class species can bury themselves in the ground and wait long periods of time in order to ambush their enemy. If needed they can survive on one very large meal every few weeks. As a species they are suited to space travel due to the ability to hibernate. They have scales to protect them from moisture loss and no sweat glands. The scales are largest on their backs, making their skin waterproof. Scales elsewhere on the body are more flexible. They have long thin arms, reaching just above the knees and at the end of these arms they have three webbed fingers with an opposing thumb. (Humans have inherited the webbing to greater or lesser degrees between the thumb and forefinger with some children being born with fully webbed hands). Their eyes are cat-like and large and they have twin nostrils at the end of a short, stubby muzzle. They are mostly meat eaters and the mouth is more like a slit but they do have teeth, which are defined as incisors, canines and molars. On average they are 6 - 7 feet in height.
Reptilians have been interacting with earth for millennia. Many abductees and contactees repeatedly describe an insignia of a flying serpent on a shoulder patch, a badge, a medallion or on a helmet.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 02:20 AM
Part 2

The dracos are originally from the 16th galaxy and stand 6 - 8 feet in height, with a dark green colour. They are hairless and have a pulsing glow around their heads when they get excited, with a pear-shaped face. They have a small slit for a mouth and no ears. A hole in the back of their necks exists from which mucus is excreted.
Like other reptilians, dracos' bodies are scaly with thin, long arms that reach just above the knees. Their torso consists of a protruding chest and winged appendages, supported by long ribs, and long skinny legs. The male nurtures the eggs while the female merely lays them. Some of the hybrids have crossbred with the reptilians and have full reproductive capabilities. Theri feet are webbed and their appearance is more 'human.' They communicate mainly in the 4th dimension.
There are people today who suffer from the disorder haemophilia, which means they have constant need of blood. This, along with eczema and psoriasis (both scaly conditions, involving the abnormal renewal rate of skin cells), are one of the disorders associated with the reptilian mixing in with humans.
Some reptilians are of neutral gender and reproduce like lizards. Draconians are also known as the 'Dragon Race,' and their symbology usually includes the winged serpent. Some of their race do not have wings - the 'Older Class' and the 'Scientist' have none.
Originally, reptilians could only stay out of water for up to three hours. Now they can do sor for 6 - 8 hours. When they came to the Dogon tribe in Mali, Africa and mixed with them they told them they were called 'Nummos,' meaning 'Instructor - Law Giver,' who had come to guide them only if they would tell them of the secret cave the Rumardians (a species of greys) lived in. The reptilians did not have the Dogon's best interests at heart. (See Credo Mutwa's story on YouTube).The rest is history. The reptilians lived under water by day and came out to teach the Dogon at night. They taught the Dogon of their great deity 'Dagon,' naming the tribe the 'Dogon.' The reptilians taught the Dogon about the universe, star formations and constellations without the aid of telescopes. The maps they have today are so accurate that they match modern maps today.
The serpent race live underground and they and other races have underwater bases. For 27 years people have been reporting strange occurences over and around Lake Ontario, on both the Canadian and US sides.

http://orbwatch.com/ (http://orbwatch.com/)

http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1986 (http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1986)

http://www.globalserve.net/~mallet/theorbs.shtml (http://www.globalserve.net/~mallet/theorbs.shtml)

http://canadaufo.blogspot.com/2008/10/lake-ontario-red-glowing-spheres-and.html (http://canadaufo.blogspot.com/2008/10/lake-ontario-red-glowing-spheres-and.html)

These are just a few of many sightings.

Reptilians are highly telepathic and are able to put negative thoughts into the heads of people to get them to do what they want them to do.

boots
11-09-2009, 02:47 AM
the response of a man without an answer.
please tell me, veintidós, if these so called shapeshifting reptilians exist then why are there no photos or footage of any kind? also why is it that the esteemed Mr. Icke only began to speak of these "creatures" in his book The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World which was published in 1999
were as the famous TV Series "V:the series" was first aired in 26th October 1984.

what say you? or do you want to accuse me of living under a bridge again?

Crawl back to the masons forum TROLL.

.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 02:55 AM
Part 3

A very common physical trait which shows up a lot in humans is the back of the head being flat or what is called 'slope head.' Other disorders from mixing in with reptilians are puffy fingertips and long nails. The skin disorder eczema results in very dry, scaly, leather-like skin. Everyone has 'scales.' When a person doesn't put on lotion or oil you can easily see the flakes on your skin. These disorders are on a small scale. There are people born with a disease called icthyosis where the skin on their entire body is extremely rough, dry scaly and discoloured. See links.

http://www.ichthyosis.com/ (http://www.ichthyosis.com/)

http://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fuk.images.search.yahoo.com% 2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DIchthyosis%26ei%3DUTF-8%26rd%3Dr1%26fr%3Dyfp-t-702&w=255&h=349&imgurl=s3.amazonaws.com%2Freaders%2Fhealthmad%2F20 08%2F02%2F03%2F108706_8.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthmad.com%2FConditions-and-Diseases%2FThe-Most-Horrible-Diseases-Ever-to-Tremble-the-World.79729&size=122k&name=108706+8+jpg&p=Ichthyosis&oid=922f12f1e7f5b1ae&fr2=&no=4&tt=673&sigr=13bd23p13&sigi=11qp4314l&sigb=12o307u0q (http://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fuk.images.search.yahoo.com% 2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DIchthyosis%26ei%3DUTF-8%26rd%3Dr1%26fr%3Dyfp-t-702&w=255&h=349&imgurl=s3.amazonaws.com%2Freaders%2Fhealthmad%2F20 08%2F02%2F03%2F108706_8.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthmad.com%2FConditions-and-Diseases%2FThe-Most-Horrible-Diseases-Ever-to-Tremble-the-World.79729&size=122k&name=108706+8+jpg&p=Ichthyosis&oid=922f12f1e7f5b1ae&fr2=&no=4&tt=673&sigr=13bd23p13&sigi=11qp4314l&sigb=12o307u0q)

In Zimbabwe there is a tribe of people known as the "Ostrich People." They speak of an ET craft that landed there over 200 years ago. Their population is about 100 and whenever they have children they are born with the same two-toed feet. Every year they go to their forest to a smashed silver dome, covered by forest plants. They undress and coat themselves in glowing silver paint and dance till daybreak. This is done in remembrance of when their ancestors came in a "large spinning sun that had fallen from the sky."

http://atlasobscura.com/places/ostrich-people-zimbabwe (http://atlasobscura.com/places/ostrich-people-zimbabwe)

johnthejedi24
11-09-2009, 08:33 AM
I do not think icthyosis has anything to do with reptilians. Just my opinion, And thank you for not showing the image directly. While I am pretty desensitized from looking at stuff on the net, Birth Defects and severe burn victims(that survive) are the only thing that still drive me up the wall.:( Shudder.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 12:37 PM
I do not think icthyosis has anything to do with reptilians. Just my opinion, And thank you for not showing the image directly. While I am pretty desensitized from looking at stuff on the net, Birth Defects and severe burn victims(that survive) are the only thing that still drive me up the wall.:( Shudder.


That I can totally understand... Icthyosis is a genetic defect. Still, it should make you ask questions as to why people develop this in the first place, along with people who have fully webbed hands like a reptile. These are not a part of a normal human genetic makeup.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 12:37 PM
Crawl back to the masons forum TROLL.

.


Signed, sealed, delivered! (The petition)

tothestars
11-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Organite?
Orgonite yeah.

I have a power punch myself and it is good for protection. Order it from Sensei. You find him at www.warriormatrix.com . Tell him to make a couple of reppie repellant to you as well ,they seem to work in a more offensive way (against the dracs).

Stay in there m8. U are doing fine (follow your intuition and dont fall into fear) :)

bsmurph83
11-09-2009, 01:18 PM
considering that my point regarding Reptilians was made on the David Icke website, it does not seem like a massive leap of faith to assume that i was drawing a parallel between the two. Seeing as your one brain cell is dedicated to taking umbrage at anyone that has an opinion which does go hand in hand with your own, you would not have picked up on that.
but still as long as you are happy.
I asked for evidence of these so called "Reptilian" people, yet you saw fit to ignore this, i find my self asking why?
can it possibly be that no such evidence exists? surely not! someone with such great reasoning skills and well researched information as you would be able to produce said evidence.

yet, you have not because there is no evidence to back up your claim is there veintidós?
supposition and here say do not count as evidence, just as finding tracks of Bigfoot does not conclusively prove Bigfoot exists.

I do no need to hide behind multiple usernames to post comments on this site, if i find a post that i disagree with i will post to that end.

just out of curiosity, deathbeast, what is your precise opinion on the concept of these reptilian entities, in particular, the shape-shifters?

tothestars
11-09-2009, 01:26 PM
considering that my point regarding Reptilians was made on the David Icke website, it does not seem like a massive leap of faith to assume that i was drawing a parallel between the two. Seeing as your one brain cell is dedicated to taking umbrage at anyone that has an opinion which does go hand in hand with your own, you would not have picked up on that.
but still as long as you are happy.
I asked for evidence of these so called "Reptilian" people, yet you saw fit to ignore this, i find my self asking why?
can it possibly be that no such evidence exists? surely not! someone with such great reasoning skills and well researched information as you would be able to produce said evidence.

yet, you have not because there is no evidence to back up your claim is there veintidós?
supposition and here say do not count as evidence, just as finding tracks of Bigfoot does not conclusively prove Bigfoot exists.

I do no need to hide behind multiple usernames to post comments on this site, if i find a post that i disagree with i will post to that end.


Does evidence exist at all on any subject in this Universe?




If so, can you prove that ? ;)

mind1universe
11-09-2009, 03:25 PM
In ireland we have a high percentage f reptillian DNA in our blood as we have one of the highest percentage of RH - blood in the world and not only that but we are also direct decendants of Atlantis like the Basque and French coastline, wales, Scotland etc. I know a few reptillians. I know a very good friend of mine who is in my soul family or could be even by twinflame is a reptillian. He has all the traits of one phyiscially, mentally etc. He is stuck on a soul level. He keeps reincarnating into the physical realms as he is not able to express his souls urge. He is very intuitive though and has all the best traits of a reptilian and he knows it. He can attract people towards him. His head shape is most striking too. It's why I instinctively remember him in a past life becauuse of the way he walks, moves, and darts his pherifphal vision as he walks. Hes got a high ridge forehead and almost flat at the top back of his head. His skin is almost hairless. He has swallow skin, reptilian yellow/green eyes. really thin lips (Like G.B.Senior lol) There are more traits. But everytime I read these threads it all reminds me and brings me back into this perspective that hes "reptilian". His father is clearly a walking humanoid reptilian(not that there is anything wrong with that) It also runs on his mother side. His parents are not at all emotional people. They walk strange to me and the other siblings are all the same. Very calculating, high IQ, non emotional, very intuitive, big eyes, tall etc.

But as to the point about my friend, he is always strange around me whenever I see him. I am beginning to seriously have questions as to why all reptilians (mostly reptilians who compassionate or at least the ones want connected twith humanity) are really drawn to me.

Can anyone help me with this, it get's more obvious the older I get.

michael christopher
11-09-2009, 04:30 PM
I originally posted this on GLP 2 months ago. I thought I would share it with the David Icke forum.

Here is the original link to the thread over there. My name on that forum is The Third Eye ( * ).

http://www.***********************/forum1/message804569/pg1



Part I

I'll try to make this as short as possible. I know people like to be given information in a short span of time. However, my situation is complex. It would require a short book to explain everything that has transpired over the last 3 years. To summarize it as best as I can, immediately after I started researching Reptilian shape shifters, representatives from their species made contact with me. I'm still not 100% as to why this has taken place. However, I am 100% sure that it has taken place. It may also be happening with other individuals around the world. In fact, my personal experiences actually confirm this assumption. Hopefully, others with similar experiences will come forward after reading this. I know I'm not the only one.

I first heard of Reptilian shape shifters in late 2005. I was researching 9/11 for a couple of months and came across David dIcke's information. I disregarded it as utter nonsense. As most do when presented with that kind of information for the first time. I was 20 years old at the time. I was interested in conspiracy theories from a fairly young age. I was reading about JFK, Roswell, ETs, Deep Underground Military Bases, etc. as early as 15 years old. This was largely a product of being fans of the comedian Bill Hicks. So, coming across David dIcke's info wasn't entirely surprising. I just needed a lot more than that to be convinced that the world was run by secret bloodlines of Reptilian hybrids. Coincidentally, I was living in a duplex on WINDSOR RD at the time I first heard about the Royal Family being Reptilian hybrids. You will see a lot synchronicity like this as you read further.

Shortly after reading about these theories I was lying in bed one night and witnessed my first UFO. I was watching 2 bright "stars" outside of my window for about 5 minutes. Then, one of the "stars" rapidly moved towards the other and the two objects became one. Not long after this, I came into contact with my first Reptilian hybrid. His name was "Zachery." I won't release his last name in order to keep his identity private. I came into contact with this individual at the job I was working at. I was attending community college at the time and working as delivery driver to pay the bills. Zach came in and filled out application to be a cook. He was student at the University of Texas.

I was huge pothead. Zach could get really good weed. As a result, we became very good friends. He continued working there for a few months. Immediately before Zach quit working there, another individual by the name of "Chris" started working there. Chris had just moved to Austin from Dallas. According to his claims, Chris was formerly a drug dealer for a MAFIA family in Dallas. He actually mentioned the name of this family, but I didn't remember it. I didn't think it was significant at that point and time. Now I do.

Zach stopped working there shortly after, but we remained friends. In June 2006, I started researching the Israeli connection to 9/11. I also came across the claims that Alex Jones was a Zionist agent. I actually went on Alex Jones' myspace page and started accusing him of this in the comments section. 5 minutes after I made this post accusing him of being a Zionist agent I received a phone call from Zach. Zach is Jewish. I didn't answer the call. I disregarded the phone call as a coincidence.

A week later, I was on Dylan Avery's page accusing him of being a Zionist agent. 5 minutes after I posted my first comment I received a phone call from my Jewish friend, Zach. I told myself it was just another coincidental call. A week after this I was on 9/11blogger accusing them of being Zionist agents. I was actually arguing with the people who run 9/11blogger in real time. It was about 1 AM in the morning. I received, yet another, coincidental phone call from Zach.

At this point, I was starting to think Zach may be connected to Mussad somehow. Zach and his older brother, Michael, where the kind Jews that liked to let you know they were Jewish. They originally came from Brooklyn, NY. The first time I met Michael he made a comment about Steinbrenner being a Jew that always exploits the system in favor of the Yankees. To which I replied," Yeah, but everyone does that." Zach looked over at his brother and shook his head in approval of my statement. It was almost like his brother's comment about Jews was a test to see how I would react.

One time Zach was over at my place. My roommate let his tongue slip and made a derogatory remark about Jews while were watching TV. He forgot that Zach was Jewish. The next time Zach came over he had his Israeli Defense Force T-shirt on. You could tell my roommate's statement got on his nerves and he was reaffirming the fact that he was Jewish. My roommate actually has Jewish friends. He likes Jews very much. His statement wasn't meant to be taken literal. It was just one of those quick things that he blurted out without thinking first.

My father is a federal agent for the DEA. Prior to his employment with the DEA, he was an investigator for the Department of Justice under Janet Reno. I started to suspect that maybe they were interested in me feeding information to him. They don't like federal agents knowing about the corruption. So I decided to cut off communication with Zach completely when I moved out the duplex the next month. His phone calls seemed to be too coincidental to simply be a coincidence.

It's now July 2006. I was now working at a different restaurant because the pay was better. Zach was aware of this. Remember the guy "Chris," that I spoke of a few paragraphs back? He comes into the restaurant with a friend of his. I recognized him right away. He made sure I saw him. After he was finished eating, we started talking out front of the restaurant. He asked me," Have you talked to Zach lately?" I replied," No. It's been awhile." Yeah," I was just over at his place last week. He said you were working here. You should give him a call." I replied," Yeah, I do that. See ya later. Gotta get back to work." It was like he was trying to get me to reestablish contact with Zach. I hadn't spoke to Zach in about 2 months at this point. Keep in mind. Chris is the individual that claimed he dealt drugs for a mafia family in Dallas.

A couple of months go by. I was in desperate search of some good weed. I couldn't find anything anywhere. All options were lost. So, I remembered Zach and how good the weed was through him. I caved in after cutting off contact for 4 months. I gave him a call. He sounded extremely relieved to hear from me. He was like," Wow. David (My name) it's really good to hear from you. Yeah, I can help you out on the weed situation." We decided to meet up at the dealer's apartment. I was relieved because I just wanted to get the shit and get the hell out of there. I wasn't looking to sit down with Mr. Mussad and smoke a bowl. However, after we got the weed he persisted on returning to his apartment to split it up. I reluctantly agreed. As we where leaving the dealers apartment there was a song playing. I distinctly heard Zach saying," Hey. This song is terrible. It's about harming young children. That's terrible." Which relates to the theories surrounding Reptilian shape shifters. I didn't know this at that point and time. I was researching Israel,9/11, Mussad, CIA, etc. I didn't start researching David dIcke, and others like him, until months after this.

We returned to Zach's apartment. His older brother Michael happened to be staying there on the couch for a week. So, he was there as well. I could clearly overhear Michael on the phone speaking with a girl when we arrived. He carried on like this for about 10 minutes. Zach and I split up the weed and started smoking. After Michael finished his conversation on the phone Zach sat down on the couch next to him. He asked about the girl on the phone. Michael was clearly trying to spend the night over at her place.

Then things started getting little weird. Zach leaned over to Michael and started to whisper," Hey. Why don't you just beat the shit out of him? You get in bar fights all the time. Just kick the shit out him right now. I've seen you get in fights on cruise ships. Just beat the shit out of him." He was trying to be discrete, but I could clearly hear everything he was saying. Michael sat back on the couch with his hand slightly covering his mouth. I could clearly see him grinning behind his hand. He lightly shaking his head in a "no" motion in regard to Zach's wishes. Zach kept persisting. Michael then proceeded to punch Zach in the arm and say,"NO!" He then said," I should tell him about the time I screwed over the Koreans."

Michael looked over at me and said,"Man. I should tell you about this crazy story. I once played baseball in College. After a game, the team and I returned to my apartment to party. We had all over baseball shoes on. We basically tore the apartment apart. It was demolished." I was like," Yeah, that is pretty crazy." Michael replied,"Yeah, but it was cool though. I knew the guy that owned the entire apartment complex. I just told him to move us into a new apartment and sublease this apartment out to some Korean college students who won't see the place before moving in. We got away with it completely. We didn't have to pay a cent for the damages to the apartment." I was replied," Man. That is fucking crazy." He looked over at me with a grin on his face and said,"Yeah. That is just a little OPEN joke for you." He looked over at Zach and the two of them I started laughing hysterically. I wasn't laughing at all.

Michael then proceeded to ask me questions about my father. Who is a DEA agent. I had received a ticket for accidentally running a red light at work that day. Michael asked me," Why don't you just get your big DEA dad to help you out with the ticket. I'm sure he could get it taken care of." I replied," No way." He started to ask me," What's your dad like. His he stickler for the rules? His the type of person that's anal about following the speed limit and shit like that." I replied,"Yeah. I guess. Just as much as the next person, I guess." He seemed overly interested in my father.

I was ready to leave at this point. It seemed like they were talking about "beating the shit out of me." At least, it seemed like it to me. I don't know who else they could have been referring to. I decided to get out of there. Zach walked me over to the door and unlocked it. As we were shaking hands he started saying,"Yeah man. Just give me call when you need more of that (weed.)" As he was saying this we were face to face. This is when it happened. His eyes went from being dark brown to changing into a light blue color in one eye. They other eye was a light yellow color. His pupils were extremely small. As if a bright light was being shined in his face. It didn't look human at all. It looked evil. The image will always be frozen into my brain. I didn't know what the hell it was, but I knew something wasn't right. I was in a minor state of shock for the rest of the night. I immediately went over to a friend's house following my visit to Zach's place. They could tell I was acting strange. I wasn't talking much. I just kept replaying the previous experience in my head.

When I witnessed Zach shape shift in his eyes, I wasn't aware of the fact that eyes could "shape shift." This was a concept that I hadn't researched yet. However, months later I stumbled across a David dIcke video where he talks about the eyes being the first thing to shape shift when witnessing a Reptilian shape shift. This experience caused me to take David dIcke seriously. Without it, I never would have given David dIcke the time of day.

I should also mention one more strange experience surrounding Zach. When I was still hanging out with Zach on a regular basis, he introduced me to another kid by the name of "Jay." Zach and I smoked over at Jay's apartment on 2 separate occasions. However, it was strange. Jay always seemed like he was uncomfortable with us being there. He never smiled, or laughed, or gave any sign that he was happy about us being there. Jay and his girlfriend painted the walls of the apartment. They had a lot of artwork that pertained to Hindu spiritual beliefs. Which are important when understanding Reptilian possession on human beings. The Reptilians possess humans through certain Chakras. The interesting thing about Jay is this. Zach told me that Jay moved apartments and cut off communication with Zach entirely. Zach actually expressed a desire to go to Jay's job and confront him.

Does this sound familiar? It should. It was the same thing Zach did with me when I cut off communication with him and moved apartments. He sent Chris to my job to see what the problem was. I'm convinced Jay was interested in the subject of Reptilian shape shifters. He was being tracked by Zach just as I was. Starting to get the point yet? The Reptilians are doing this with a lot of people. Some of you are likely being monitored in the same way and you don't realize it.

If you find Part I to be interesting, then pull up a chair. I haven't even reached to the good stuff yet. Part I was necessary to understand the really interesting stuff in Part II.


To be continued....................

This person is a fraud, just to let everyone know.

His name is either: Eric H-ton, Chris B-mann or Shaun L-don. Whoever it is, he has a lot of psychological issues and needs to be put away for the good of society.

I don't know about Shaun, but I know that the other two come to this forum and make ridiculous posts to make fun of you all and because they think I am so stupid I might actually fall for it. They have used a lot of names of people in my life, including both of my own names in the original post. They have made various usernames here and currently Chris B-mann is posted regularly under a user that all of you know very well. They think they can continue their little games, but I will expose them if they keep it up.

melinda980
11-09-2009, 05:00 PM
This person is a fraud, just to let everyone know.

His name is either: Eric H-ton, Chris B-mann or Shaun L-don. Whoever it is, he has a lot of psychological issues and needs to be put away for the good of society.

I don't know about Shaun, but I know that the other two come to this forum and make ridiculous posts to make fun of you all and because they think I am so stupid I might actually fall for it. They have used a lot of names of people in my life, including both of my own names in the original post. They have made various usernames here and currently Chris B-mann is posted regularly under a user that all of you know very well. They think they can continue their little games, but I will expose them if they keep it up.

Your link doesn't work! So this was written by you?

deathbeast
11-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Does evidence exist at all on any subject in this Universe?
If so, can you prove that ? ;)

well, you exist and the proof is here for all to see.

bsmurph83
12-09-2009, 01:50 AM
This person is a fraud, just to let everyone know.

His name is either: Eric H-ton, Chris B-mann or Shaun L-don. Whoever it is, he has a lot of psychological issues and needs to be put away for the good of society.

I don't know about Shaun, but I know that the other two come to this forum and make ridiculous posts to make fun of you all and because they think I am so stupid I might actually fall for it. They have used a lot of names of people in my life, including both of my own names in the original post. They have made various usernames here and currently Chris B-mann is posted regularly under a user that all of you know very well. They think they can continue their little games, but I will expose them if they keep it up.

that's the problem with all this conspiracy related shite... sometimes it's just impossible to work out what is BS and what isn't... sometimes you can spot it easily. my intuition has done me some good favours lately, but... stories like this... part of you goes, "well it's certainly POSSIBLE that this is true..." but then there's those little nagging doubts....

michael, not that i'm arguing or anything, just "thinking out loud", but i find it hard to conceive that someone would make such MASSIVE posts just for shits and giggles... unless of course they really are a little fucked up....

but you say you recognise this person from elsewhere, so... hmm! thoughts?

bsmurph83
12-09-2009, 01:52 AM
In ireland we have a high percentage f reptillian DNA in our blood as we have one of the highest percentage of RH - blood in the world and not only that but we are also direct decendants of Atlantis like the Basque and French coastline, wales, Scotland etc. I know a few reptillians. I know a very good friend of mine who is in my soul family or could be even by twinflame is a reptillian. He has all the traits of one phyiscially, mentally etc. He is stuck on a soul level. He keeps reincarnating into the physical realms as he is not able to express his souls urge. He is very intuitive though and has all the best traits of a reptilian and he knows it. He can attract people towards him. His head shape is most striking too. It's why I instinctively remember him in a past life becauuse of the way he walks, moves, and darts his pherifphal vision as he walks. Hes got a high ridge forehead and almost flat at the top back of his head. His skin is almost hairless. He has swallow skin, reptilian yellow/green eyes. really thin lips (Like G.B.Senior lol) There are more traits. But everytime I read these threads it all reminds me and brings me back into this perspective that hes "reptilian". His father is clearly a walking humanoid reptilian(not that there is anything wrong with that) It also runs on his mother side. His parents are not at all emotional people. They walk strange to me and the other siblings are all the same. Very calculating, high IQ, non emotional, very intuitive, big eyes, tall etc.

But as to the point about my friend, he is always strange around me whenever I see him. I am beginning to seriously have questions as to why all reptilians (mostly reptilians who compassionate or at least the ones want connected twith humanity) are really drawn to me.

Can anyone help me with this, it get's more obvious the older I get.

maybe they just like the fact that you recognise them? or the fact that you are more perceptive than most... maybe they want a connection with a perceptive human (god knows there's not many)? maybe, maybe, maybe... why do YOU think you draw them to you?

smupi
12-09-2009, 09:14 AM
This person is a fraud, just to let everyone know.

His name is either: Eric H-ton, Chris B-mann or Shaun L-don. Whoever it is, he has a lot of psychological issues and needs to be put away for the good of society.

I don't know about Shaun, but I know that the other two come to this forum and make ridiculous posts to make fun of you all and because they think I am so stupid I might actually fall for it. They have used a lot of names of people in my life, including both of my own names in the original post. They have made various usernames here and currently Chris B-mann is posted regularly under a user that all of you know very well. They think they can continue their little games, but I will expose them if they keep it up.

Does seem like alot of work to tell a lie....Even the bakery and book store i think it was are actual places right. So if it is a lie, dam he did a hell of a good job at. But the stuff he talks about is a little hard to beleive, but anything is possible right!:confused:

michael christopher
12-09-2009, 06:15 PM
This person is a fraud, just to let everyone know.

His name is either: Eric H-ton, Chris B-mann or Shaun L-don. Whoever it is, he has a lot of psychological issues and needs to be put away for the good of society.

I don't know about Shaun, but I know that the other two come to this forum and make ridiculous posts to make fun of you all and because they think I am so stupid I might actually fall for it. They have used a lot of names of people in my life, including both of my own names in the original post. They have made various usernames here and currently Chris B-mann is posted regularly under a user that all of you know very well. They think they can continue their little games, but I will expose them if they keep it up.

Your link doesn't work! So this was written by you?

What link? And no I did not write it, these losers wrote it. They have no lives and will go to extreme lengths to entertain themselves. They are probably still hardcore drug addicts.

Graduated to crack yet, guys?

michael christopher
12-09-2009, 06:17 PM
that's the problem with all this conspiracy related shite... sometimes it's just impossible to work out what is BS and what isn't... sometimes you can spot it easily. my intuition has done me some good favours lately, but... stories like this... part of you goes, "well it's certainly POSSIBLE that this is true..." but then there's those little nagging doubts....

michael, not that i'm arguing or anything, just "thinking out loud", but i find it hard to conceive that someone would make such MASSIVE posts just for shits and giggles... unless of course they really are a little fucked up....

but you say you recognise this person from elsewhere, so... hmm! thoughts?

If you really think it is beyond any of those three to make hundreds and hundreds of lengthy, detailed posts full of lies, then you are in for a rude awakening - people make millions of dollars off of lying, and people sometimes just do it to get attention.

These losers are doing it for attention.

One of them, Chris B., currently posts here under a different, well-respected username which has thousands of posts. No one thinks he's a fraud, but I know he is. And I know who he is.

And if he keeps making posts like this, I will tell everyone.

michael christopher
12-09-2009, 06:18 PM
Does seem like alot of work to tell a lie....Even the bakery and book store i think it was are actual places right. So if it is a lie, dam he did a hell of a good job at. But the stuff he talks about is a little hard to beleive, but anything is possible right!:confused:

If it's the person who posts here under a different username, he is an extremely disturbed sociopath. He has mastered the art of lying and deception.

mind1universe
12-09-2009, 11:56 PM
maybe they just like the fact that you recognise them? or the fact that you are more perceptive than most... maybe they want a connection with a perceptive human (god knows there's not many)? maybe, maybe, maybe... why do YOU think you draw them to you?

I'm not sure. Maybe because I have unconditional love for all beings. THey can see my soul as any parasite can see anyones. But I don't recieve harm from reptillians. It's my karmic history of lives. I have Reptillian blood in my family but its its not enought to be a reptilian. As we all have reptilian DNA.

It's a great question, But I am not to sure to be honest.

bsmurph83
13-09-2009, 01:05 PM
I'm not sure. Maybe because I have unconditional love for all beings. THey can see my soul as any parasite can see anyones. But I don't recieve harm from reptillians. It's my karmic history of lives. I have Reptillian blood in my family but its its not enought to be a reptilian. As we all have reptilian DNA.

It's a great question, But I am not to sure to be honest.

methinks thy mystery shall linger perforce for the time being...

bobbydiva
13-09-2009, 08:29 PM
If you really think it is beyond any of those three to make hundreds and hundreds of lengthy, detailed posts full of lies, then you are in for a rude awakening - people make millions of dollars off of lying, and people sometimes just do it to get attention.

These losers are doing it for attention.

One of them, Chris B., currently posts here under a different, well-respected username which has thousands of posts. No one thinks he's a fraud, but I know he is. And I know who he is.

And if he keeps making posts like this, I will tell everyone.

Spill the beans. People don't want to continue to be duped. But also I'm confused, how do you know these people and how do you know what they are doing?

michael christopher
13-09-2009, 10:18 PM
Spill the beans. People don't want to continue to be duped. But also I'm confused, how do you know these people and how do you know what they are doing?

It's a long, useless story. Frankly, it's no one's business. It's not my fault that I used to associate with people who turned out to be sociopaths.

bobbydiva
14-09-2009, 12:14 AM
It's a long, useless story. Frankly, it's no one's business. It's not my fault that I used to associate with people who turned out to be sociopaths.

Should we be worried? Are people hanging on this poster's every word?

michael christopher
14-09-2009, 02:27 AM
Should we be worried? Are people hanging on this poster's every word?

No, he is just another fraud, one of what I'm sure are many on this forum. He may or may not legitimately believe what he posts about, but I know this post in particular was either made by him or one of his pathetic "friends" that is also obsessed with me. At first they thought I was retarded enough to fall for this non-sense, now I think they just do it because there are plenty of people on this forum who will be more than happy to humor them. They are probably on drugs like cocaine when they make these posts, although who knows, perhaps they are so broke now they are resorting to something cheaper. They were extreme low-lives the last time I knew them in person, and they have been hounding me for months now. Finding the David Icke forum has probably truly eased their boredom.

This post is not about me, but it was designed to attract my attention. The use of tons of names which come right out of my life are a dead giveaway, in addition to the fact that I know these idiots post on this forum on a regular basis, making up username after username and changing their IPs.

dsl22
01-10-2009, 07:51 PM
No, he is just another fraud, one of what I'm sure are many on this forum. He may or may not legitimately believe what he posts about, but I know this post in particular was either made by him or one of his pathetic "friends" that is also obsessed with me. At first they thought I was retarded enough to fall for this non-sense, now I think they just do it because there are plenty of people on this forum who will be more than happy to humor them. They are probably on drugs like cocaine when they make these posts, although who knows, perhaps they are so broke now they are resorting to something cheaper. They were extreme low-lives the last time I knew them in person, and they have been hounding me for months now. Finding the David Icke forum has probably truly eased their boredom.

This post is not about me, but it was designed to attract my attention. The use of tons of names which come right out of my life are a dead giveaway, in addition to the fact that I know these idiots post on this forum on a regular basis, making up username after username and changing their IPs.

Hey Michael,

I can assure you. I am no fraud. Somebody on GLP actually told me about you on that forum. After reading about my situation they actually thought that I was you.

I'm not making this situation up. There may be similarities in our stories. Perhaps these similarities are connected some how. Trust me, I'm not screwing around with you or anything like that. I'm extremely interested to hear about your situation.

Why would somebody read my story and confuse me with being you? I should also mention. One of the key suspects in my situation (whom I have yet to mention) is actually from Cincinnati. There could be a direct connection between our two situations.

I'm no fraud Michael. Please share you story so we can figure out what is going on.

michael christopher
01-10-2009, 09:07 PM
Hey Michael,

I can assure you. I am no fraud. Somebody on GLP actually told me about you on that forum. After reading about my situation they actually thought that I was you.

I'm not making this situation up. There may be similarities in our stories. Perhaps these similarities are connected some how. Trust me, I'm not screwing around with you or anything like that. I'm extremely interested to hear about your situation.

Why would somebody read my story and confuse me with being you? I should also mention. One of the key suspects in my situation (whom I have yet to mention) is actually from Cincinnati. There could be a direct connection between our two situations.

I'm no fraud Michael. Please share you story so we can figure out what is going on.

:rolleyes:

One day you're going to regret the actions you are choosing to take at the present.

Try medication - or maybe you should stop trying it. Don't play stupid with me. I know exactly who you are, "River Dog." Your denial doesn't mean a damn thing. You think you're very slick and that you cover your tracks well, but you don't. By the way, the harder you try, the more obvious it is who you are. Right, you just happen to be connected to me... and right, the similarities in the original story just happen to have various names from people in my life.

We must have some bad karma, buddy.

You are sick. You have a twisted mind. I'm not joking. You are truly fucked up.

Let this post directed at me above be proof to everyone else that he's completely full of shit. Go do a search on my post "I just got dumped" and read WildEyes responses to me if you want to know who this sociopath is. Or I can reveal his other, far more popular username.

dsl22
01-10-2009, 11:31 PM
:rolleyes:

One day you're going to regret the actions you are choosing to take at the present.

Try medication - or maybe you should stop trying it. Don't play stupid with me. I know exactly who you are, "River Dog." Your denial doesn't mean a damn thing. You think you're very slick and that you cover your tracks well, but you don't. By the way, the harder you try, the more obvious it is who you are. Right, you just happen to be connected to me... and right, the similarities in the original story just happen to have various names from people in my life.

We must have some bad karma, buddy.

You are sick. You have a twisted mind. I'm not joking. You are truly fucked up.

Let this post directed at me above be proof to everyone else that he's completely full of shit. Go do a search on my post "I just got dumped" and read WildEyes responses to me if you want to know who this sociopath is. Or I can reveal his other, far more popular username.

Who are the people in your life that pertain to the people in my story? I can show you pictures and provide contact information to the individuals in my story. I did this on the GLP thread. Go look at page 8 on GLP.

Copy paste the title of this thread onto the the search bar at godlike productions. Look at page 8 on that thread. I provided facebook links to the people in that thread. What are the names in my story that pertain to the people in your story?


Lance Kennedy (Freemason)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?react=1249335818%3A86d65656c60eed11a52c5e c655d55524#/lance.kennedy?hiq=lance%2Ckennedy&ref=search&__a=1

Luke Hutson (Frat boy)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?react=1249335818%3A86d65656c60eed11a52c5e c655d55524#/profile.php?id=7908895&hiq=luke%2Chutson&ref=search

Renee Parsons (Luke's former girlfriend)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?react=1249335818%3A86d65656c60eed11a52c5e c655d55524#/profile.php?id=25410138&ref=ts

Robert Parsons (The President of Luke's fraternity at the University of Texas)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?react=1249335818%3A86d65656c60eed11a52c5e c655d55524#/rparsonstx?ref=mf

Zach Gultz (the first person I witnessed shape shift)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?react=1249335818%3A86d65656c60eed11a52c5e c655d55524#/profile.php?id=7942665&hiq=zach%2Cgultz&ref=search

There they are. In the flesh and blood. There are others, as well.

dsl22
01-10-2009, 11:52 PM
You think I'm fucking around here? I've been psy-oped ever since I started these 2 threads back in May.

I've had cars following me and flashing their headlights at me. This has happened multiple times since I started discussing this stuff in the last 2 months.

That is part of the reason I don't get on this site and discuss this stuff often. I've been warned to stay away. Get the point?

Project Camelot has already offered to interview me, but I turned it down as a result of the harassment. It calmed down in recent weeks. Now that I've made the previous post, shit might start up again.

Don't call me a fraud. I've literally risked my life to come here and share this information with you.

michael christopher
02-10-2009, 03:32 AM
You think I'm fucking around here? I've been psy-oped ever since I started these 2 threads back in May.

I've had cars following me and flashing their headlights at me. This has happened multiple times since I started discussing this stuff in the last 2 months.

That is part of the reason I don't get on this site and discuss this stuff often. I've been warned to stay away. Get the point?

Project Camelot has already offered to interview me, but I turned it down as a result of the harassment. It calmed down in recent weeks. Now that I've made the previous post, shit might start up again.

Don't call me a fraud. I've literally risked my life to come here and share this information with you.

Oh, okay. I guess you must be telling the truth or you would never say anything like that.

camreeno
02-10-2009, 10:06 PM
So the reptilians transform when they get angry?

azureangel
02-10-2009, 11:44 PM
dsl22, I too was captivated by your "story" in your earlier posts. I didn't return to this thread until today. I read your responses to some, I think, quite reasonable questions before even michael began posting. You evidenced a high level of hostility and infantile behavior, swearing and ranting, and failed to answer the questions. This, more than your later posts, showed another level of your maturity, or lack of. I would say to you that you have talent as a story writer. Why not focus on that, and stay off the forum if you are incapable of participating in a responsible manner? I would also say that you should consider staying out of other's business. If things at the pizza place were so terrible for you, why did you stay there? Posting pics of other folks is just invasion of privacy. Further, yes, doing drugs does interfere with your auric field. Period. Don't bother trying to shred me by post or PM, I'm done with this thread. Love, angel

dsl22
03-10-2009, 08:42 AM
dsl22, I too was captivated by your "story" in your earlier posts. I didn't return to this thread until today. I read your responses to some, I think, quite reasonable questions before even michael began posting. You evidenced a high level of hostility and infantile behavior, swearing and ranting, and failed to answer the questions. This, more than your later posts, showed another level of your maturity, or lack of. I would say to you that you have talent as a story writer. Why not focus on that, and stay off the forum if you are incapable of participating in a responsible manner? I would also say that you should consider staying out of other's business. If things at the pizza place were so terrible for you, why did you stay there? Posting pics of other folks is just invasion of privacy. Further, yes, doing drugs does interfere with your auric field. Period. Don't bother trying to shred me by post or PM, I'm done with this thread. Love, angel

"You evidenced a high level of hostility and infantile behavior, swearing and ranting, and failed to answer the questions."

Um. No, I didn't. I answered everyone's questions respectfully and wasn't hostile with anyone. What are you talking about?

"This, more than your later posts, showed another level of your maturity, or lack of."

Again, what are you talking about? I haven't done anything remotely immature since I've started this thread.

"I would say to you that you have talent as a story writer. Why not focus on that, and stay off the forum if you are incapable of participating in a responsible manner?"

What story writing are you referring to? I have simply recalled my personal experiences. How have I communicated in an irresponsible manner?

"I would also say that you should consider staying out of other's business."

When my paycheck is donated to a BLOOD DRIVE, posting the pictures of the individuals responsible isn't an invasion of privacy. Why don't you go talk to them about screwing with other people's finances before criticizing me? I have every right to post their pictures and contact information.

"If things at the pizza place were so terrible for you, why did you stay there?"

What good would it accomplish to leave that job? Lance (FREEMASON) was friends with one of my good friends. Luke (FRAT BOY) was good friends with a guy a had known since I was 10 years old. Leaving the job simply wouldn't have accomplished anything. I would still be stuck with Lance and Luke.

I left that job in May of 2008. I saw Luke 2 days ago. The reptilians are still in my life. Even after I left that job. Staying at that job as long as did allowed me to learn numerous things about the reptilians.

Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.

"Further, yes, doing drugs does interfere with your auric field. Period."

I disagree. There is no evidence to prove that. It is just your opinion. An opinion that is wrong.

dsl22
03-10-2009, 08:58 AM
So the reptilians transform when they get angry?

According to information presented in Icke's books, yes.

I witnessed Zach shape shift 20 minutes after I overheard him tell his brother to "beat the shit out of him (me.)" However, I wasn't aware of David Icke's information at that time. 6 months after witnessing the shape shift I stumbled across videos with David Icke discussing shape shifts. He claimed that the eyes were the first to go during a shape shift.


I witnessed this shape shift prior to ever believing the existence of shape shifters. His eyes changed color and shape. It clearly wasn't human.

Again, I didn't believe in the existence of reptilian shape shifters at the time of witnessing my first shape shift. This situation caused me to take the issue more seriously.

Suffice to say, David Icke is no joke. He isn't screwing around when he says these people are possessed by non-human entities. He is hitting the nail right on the head. I have seen the evidence of this with my own eyes.

arela
03-10-2009, 01:02 PM
dsl22...

I found your story fascinating. I follow Icke's "journeys". Having "expanded" my conciousness to a broader level if I can say so myself, I find most of the stuff he addresses to be true and well put, but regarding the reptilians, i always said that as far as I'm concerned, "the jury is still out on that one". At this stage in my life, I have no black-white views and positions, even on matters that might seem ludicrous or paranoid at first. So this account of yours, if nothing else, has me thinking a little further, at least to the point of stimulating my interest on the "reptillian" matter enough, to make me want to do a serious research. I wonder why you didn't continue to reach to some completion of the narrative. Those of us who sat and read your story, are left "hanging in the air" , waiting for some closure.

The majority of people responding to this thread, made legit points, but in some respects, I feel we've "strayed" from the actual point here.

Regarding drug use...

All sounds very interesting... you don't seem like a paranoid schizo to me... seems to me your been targeted by TPTB and your being monitered. I definitly believe that halucigens shift our conciousness into other dimensions allowing us to see through the programming.

I see eye to eye with Pezza on that one. I believe however, that the "chemically engineered" hallusinogens distributed worldwide today, are deliberaty "manufactured" to distort the conciousness shifting i n to deceitful paths, so people won't get the picture straight. I know that in ancient times ( Pythia in Delphi for one) they knew how and what to use, so conciousness would expand and "receive" accurate info, witout negative side effects on the users physical or mental health ...



Another interesting post in this thread...


dsl22, I have a story, an experience that happened 13 yrs ago, concerning reptilians which today due to a incredible piece of synchronicity has become as fresh as when it happened. It's still cooking my noodle!!

A few days ago I recieved a 'succor punch' (google it) which claims to protect from negative thought forms, alien technologies, surveillance by or from anything in any dimension or time line amongst other things. It's a crystal which is super charged using a moibus coil and a small electrical charge. Maybe that's an oversimplification, it's as much as I understand.

I got it because of the reptilian experience I'd had and because I have felt 'shadowed' by this ever since. Since I've used it I've felt much lighter, clearer and freer and I feel this synchronistic event today has happened because of it.

My point is;
get yourself one. :)

I'd be interested in finding out more about this, "succor punch" dear whitewolf. Care to elaborate?;) (not necessarily here if it is to take us off topic)

dsl22
05-10-2009, 03:00 AM
dsl22...

I wonder why you didn't continue to reach to some completion of the narrative. Those of us who sat and read your story, are left "hanging in the air" , waiting for some closure.



You're right. There isn't a conclusion to the story because the story hasn't concluded yet. Basically, the experiences you have read about in those first 4 parts are a summary of events that began in October 2005 and ended in May of 2008. I quit that job with all of the suspicious individuals in May of 2008.

I failed to mention a lot of stuff in those first 4 parts. The reason I've stopped is due to harassment. My email was hacked and the password was changed. I couldn't access it. I've had random cars following me and flashing their headlights at me.

I was receiving harassing phone calls from a person that is a Freemason. The Mason trolls on GLP definitely started to harass me after I started to talk about Lance Kennedy. Lance called my phone 9 times in 3 nights. From June 21s to June 23rd. Each time I answered the phone, he wouldn't reply. During one of the phone calls, I could clearly hear him talking to a third party on the line. I couldn't hear the person's voice. I could only Lance say," It's a friend of mine. He is obsessed with researching this stuff.

Lance Kennedy is an aspiring Republican Congressman. His father is the elected head of the Orthodox Christian Church. Which (according to Lance) is the only christian church, outside of Catholicism, that is acknowledged by the Vatican as being an actual church.

The Republican party is already putting money into Lance. The paid for him to attend a couple of McCain conventions during the election. Lance graduated from the University of Texas this past year and is currently attending Law School at Notre Dame.

Trust me, this guy will be a Republican Congressman. He has all the right connections to do so. Lance openly admitted to me that Freemasons participate in ritual human sacrifices. Lance opened his mouth a lot about the inner workings of the order. Which is something he isn't supposed to do. He would constantly talk about conjuring demons and how poor people should be forced to live in a system of serfdom because they are too stupid

I think I got Lance into trouble when I started talking about him on GLP. His Masonic superiors didn't like him running his mouth about Freemasonry. So, he called my phone to show his masonic superiors who I was. That's why he said," He is a friend of mine. He is obsessed with researching this stuff."

Lance was clearly talking about me to one of his superiors in the Masonic order. Combine that with random cars following me and flashing their headlights. This is why I'm reluctant to continue on with the story. I've been warned not to.

You're lucky I'm still here. Hell, you're lucky I came here in the first place. I started being harassed before coming to this forum. I told them on GLP to stop fucking around. I warned them that if more weird shit happened that I would take this story to other forums. The harassment didn't stop. So, I came here. It hasn't helped much. I still have cars following me and flashing their headlights at me.

That's also part of the reason it took me so long to quit that job. It wouldn't have accomplished anything. I quit that job in May of 2008. I saw Lance a month ago. I saw Luke 2 days ago. It doesn't matter what I do, or where I go. The Reptilians will likely be tracking me for the rest of my life. Just as they are doing with others.

They like to keep a close eye on people that pose a threat to them. Did I mention? Prior to ever meeting Lance, I was telling my parents and friends that I was going to obtain a Law Degree and try to get into politics. In order to push issues like 9/11 being an inside job, NWO, etc.

I don't believe that it was a coincidence that Lance is basically doing the exact same thing on the opposite side of the paradigm. Representatives from the Illuminati made contact with me because they believe that I was threat to them. You have to understand. Time travel is a significant part of the equation here.

The Illuminati used time travel to track me down. Before I ever obtained a Law Degree, they made contact with me and warned me to back off. Roads, money, etc. It's all a control grid. They can plant people at your job months before you ever decide to seek employment at the job. The Illuminati is 5 steps ahead of you at all times. I've seen the evidence of this with my own eyes.

dsl22
05-10-2009, 03:49 AM
When I say I've seen evidence of the reality of time travel, I'm being dead serious. Here is one example of time travel that I experienced while working with the suspicious individuals.

One day, I returned to my apartment after a trip to the grocery store. I was walking up to my door with bags of groceries in both hands. As I was approaching the steps to my front door, I noticed something very strange laying on the ground. It was a bank deposit envelope from the pizza place that I was working at. This was the same kind of envelope I had seen multiple times while working at the pizza place. It is used for depositing the cash that the restaurant makes in a day or weeks time.

The envelope was basically a clear baggy with a place for writing in the date of the deposit and the amount. When I saw the envelope I recognized it immediately. I could clearly see that the envelope was empty. There was no cash inside of it. It was empty.

I didn't bend down to pick it up right away. My hands were full of bags of groceries and the keys to my apartment. I planned on going back to pick it up when I took out the trash. When I took the trash out the envelope had mysteriously disappeared. I simply thought to myself, "Hmmmm. That is strange. Why did I just see that?"

The next night, I went into work. Well, it turns out, that somebody had actually stolen the envelope the night before. After the restaurant had closed. This means that I witnessed the envelope sitting in front of my apartment steps 12 hours prior to the robbery taking place and 36 hours before I found out about the robbery .Keep in mind, this happened at a time that I was suspecting my coworkers of being shape shifters that used time travel to track me down.

I honestly thought they were playing a joke on me. I didn't tell them that I had witnessed the envelope in front of my apartment the day of the robbery. That would have looked suspicious. I kept my mouth shut about seeing the envelope the day before.

It was as if I had some kind of precognitive vision into the future. A minor one, but a precognitive vision, nonetheless. I don't need anyone to tell me that time travel is real because I've actually experienced it myself. When Alex Collier claims that the Reptilians came from outside of our dimension of time and space, he is dead on in my opinion.

Get the point?

arela
05-10-2009, 07:10 AM
Got it. All I can say is hang in there and don't throw in the towel. I don't think your life is in danger, because if they wanted (or if they could even) you would have been dead meat by now. Keep on the good fight. I've sent you a PM.

dsl22
05-10-2009, 07:59 AM
Got it. All I can say is hang in there and don't throw in the towel. I don't think your life is in danger, because if they wanted (or if they could even) you would have been dead meat by now. Keep on the good fight. I've sent you a PM.

Indeed. That certainly seems to be the case. To be honest, I don't think that the strange cars that have been following me are actually government agents or anything like that.

It could be that the people driving the cars are just normal, everyday people going about their business. When the car headlights start flashing, it simply means that a Reptilian entity is possessing that person for a brief amount of time. It's like hypnosis. When the Reptilians possess average people, their influence over that individual is extremely limited.

With hypnosis, you can force a person to do strange things. However, you can't force that person to do anything that would go against that individual's own moral judgment. It's as if the Reptilians can posses anyone who isn't conscious of their existence.

However, the level of possession depends on the person that the Reptilian entity is possessing. They can't possess random people and force them to kill others on their behalf. They can only take it that far with individuals who are consciously willing to do that. Individuals such as those who are members of organizations like the Freemasons, Illuminati, Knights of Malta, etc.

Lance was obsessed with demon conjuring and ritual magik. This is an aspiring Republican Congressman we are talking about here. Not some goth kid. He is as neoconservative as it gets. Everything that Lance was saying and doing was consistent with the information I've found in Icke's books.

These people don't just believe in this stuff. It actually is real. Until people acknowledge this information nothing will get solved on this planet. People in the "truth movement" are calling for revolution. Yet, they have no idea what they need to be revolting against. In many ways, a revolution would simply play right into the hands of the Illuminati agenda.

The only revolution people should be fighting, at this point and time, is against the confines of their own minds. The political and financial institutions are like a red tarp that a bull fighter holds up. We think we're going to ram that tarp to death.

Little do we know, there is a sword waiting for us on the other side of that tarp. We should be going after the fucker holding the tarp. Which is the Reptilians themselves. The best way to fight the Reptilians is with your intellect. Communication is the only weapon we need.

dsl22
05-10-2009, 08:22 AM
And, I got your PM arela. I checked out your forum. Cool place. I might not join just because it's hard to juggle more than a couple of forums at one time.

The discussions tend to get long and drawn out. When I go from one forum to another I tend to lose my place. I'll forget what information I spoke about on each forum. It makes it hard to post new experiences.

My next stop will be the Project Camelot forum. I may go ahead and set up an interview. They offered me one already. They sent me a message on my youtube account asking me if somebody had ever interviewed me. I had no idea who they were at the time. When I found out, I simply deleted my youtube account.

Here is why I turned it down the first time. Before I had ever heard of Project Camelot I believe I was warned to stay away. Arwyn was the girl with snake tattoos. She was actually responsible for making the schedule. Next to my name she wrote, DAVID LANCELOT. Instead of my actual name David Leakey. Lancelot and Project Camelot. Hmmmmmm. Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about here. As Icke would say. ;)

Above my name there was a kid named Zach. Next to his name it said "Zach the Impaler." Which is a reference to Vlad the Impaler III. The person that Bram Stoker based his Dracula fable on. I also hear that Bush and Obama are descendants of Vlad the Impaler III.

arela
05-10-2009, 10:27 AM
And, I got your PM arela. I checked out your forum. Cool place. I might not join just because it's hard to juggle more than a couple of forums at one time.

No prob. I totally respect your position on this, and I wouldn't dream of pressuring you or anything like that. As I said in my PM, I'm not spamming, not advertising and not looking for "clients". (THAT'S why I pm'd you on this one and didn't say it publicly) My intention a/ to bring this whole story there for my co-forumers (AND friends) to address/discuss b/ to focus on certain points of your narrative which baffled me in a way, and I felt the discussion there would be more "fruitful".

No matter. Maybe at a later stage, I'll come back here with the points I wanted to discuss, so keep following this thread.

(friendly advice: when someone sends you a personal message, it's better to respond accordingly i.e., in private)

Thanks:cool:

dsl22
13-10-2009, 11:03 PM
I started an account on Project Camelot's forum Project Avalon. I figure the only way to fully validate my claims is to get them documented on record. Hopefully they will have the time to do an interview.

Everywhere I go people think I'm a fraud. It's time to prove the naysayers wrong.

dsl22
22-10-2009, 09:27 AM
My post are being censored on the ProjectAvalon forum. Here is a link to the thread.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17066

Basically, the moderators can see my post. However, the users on the forum can't see anything at all. The moderators have no idea what is going on. It's strange.

Another thing. The moderators won't allow me to post contact information for the suspicious individuals that I posted links to on this forum and GLP.

Here is the response from the moderators about posting the links on their forum.

RESPONSE FROM MODERATORS AT PROJECT AVALON FORUM:

"Hello Thirdeye....

The other mod's & I have been discussing yr situation & yr posts....

Firstly, we appreciate info at Avalon....however, there are certain guidelines we must follow to protect people as well....It is not going to be allowed to post 3rd party person's personal pages....If THEY want to post....that is fine(not always wise)....So we will be editing those from yr previous posts and watch yr future posts in that regard....

Secondly, if you were born in 1985....you are still very young in how to deal with certain types of people....people that have many resources....So we reccomend that if you wish to whistleblow, it is much wiser to go to www.projectcamelot.org and contact Bill & Kerry and submit yr particulars(NOT by forum and no idea if enough of the "white caps" have read yr info!!!)....they will forward info to several of their contacts to verify & check out....meanwhile, you will have the info in good hands while not putting yourself at front line
harrassment.....If there is much to be done from what you say,Bill & Kerry can try to get you more connections,although NO GAURANTEES....You must realize, yr whistleblowing is at YOUR discretion....

In regards to dark entities......whatever they may be.......You should work on raising yr frequency to higher vibrations....Pls see david Wilcock at Divinecosmos.com and also www.michaelsharp.org is a good site to get info...michael has 3 free e-books that are about 80 pages each...but explain that humans are really spiritual beings having a physical 3-D experience and what needs to happen to get back yr personal power.... I highly reccomend these two as they will stand you in very solid standing for your safety....and peace of mind....

Pls feel free to contact me if you have questions....however you may find many answers at the sites I just gave you....

In Light!
Samarkis "

dsl22
22-10-2009, 09:29 AM
Here is my response to the message from their moderators.

MY RESPONSE:

"You're not making any sense. This isn't private information. It's facebook links. Facebook is public domain. I'm not posting anything private about these people.


Here is my thread on ******************. They allowed me to post EVERY PERSON's contact information.

Page 9 of this thread.

http://www.***********************/fo...sage804569/pg9

Here is my thread on the David Icke forum. They allowed me to post EVERY PERSON's contact information. Page 10 of this thread.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=75158&page=10

Why are you people restricting me from posting this information when other forums don't have the slightest problem with it? It doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not making this up when I say the NSA, CIA, or somebody else has been harassing me ever since I started these two threads. Ever since I started the thread on this forum, the harassment has continued.

I just caught somebody tailing me 2 weeks ago. A pick up truck ( always nice pick up trucks) signaled his blinker based on what I did with my blinker at 2 separate stop signs. I pulled up to the first stop sign and signaled my blinker to go right. I noticed the pick up truck in my rear view mirror do the same thing. I then decided not to go right. I shut my blinker off. The driver of the truck shut his blinker off. I thought, "Hmmmmm. That was strange."

I got to the second stop sign. I needed to go right to get to my apartment. However, this time I decided to test the truck behind me. I acted like I was going strait until the last minute. I didn't turn on my blinker. As soon as I turned right, I noticed the truck immediately turn his blinker on. The truck made a right turn.

Of course, I wasn't fully convinced this person was tailing me just yet. So, I decided to test this a little further. I was now coming to the next stop sign. This was 2 blocks away from my apartment. Instead of going strait, in the direction of my apartment. I decide to make 3 left turns. Which would take me in a circle. In order to test the person driving the truck behind me.

Sure enough, the truck made all 3 left turns. When I approached the original street I was on, I made a 4th left turn. At this point, the driver of the truck knew I spotted him. He stopped following and proceeded to go strait through the stop sign. Instead of making a 4th left turn, as I did.

This isn't the only situation. I have had pick up trucks following me and flashing their headlights at me on 6 or 7 different occasions in the last 3 months. I have had a witness with me, during one of these occasions. I can't even go to the damn grocery store without being tailed.

You're sitting here talking about the safety of the individuals I'm posting links to.

I'm asking you, WHAT ABOUT MY SAFETY?!!!!!!!!!!!!! When does my safety become an issue."

erthiz
22-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Dsl, i read all your posts, thats incredible. Stay strong man. Ive got many of questions to ask you :) but i wont, because you said you want to keep quiet about it all, which is fair enough and i got respect for you.

In the last couple of days i learnt that my manager, of the last six months, is a freemason. I asked him if this was true he said yes, to which i replied "What degree are you?", he looked at me with a confused look on his face as if to say, how do you know about that, and whispered to me "Are you..are you in it?", i said "No, i just know about it thats all"

dsl22
22-10-2009, 07:06 PM
Dsl, i read all your posts, thats incredible. Stay strong man. Ive got many of questions to ask you :) but i wont, because you said you want to keep quiet about it all, which is fair enough and i got respect for you.

In the last couple of days i learnt that my manager, of the last six months, is a freemason. I asked him if this was true he said yes, to which i replied "What degree are you?", he looked at me with a confused look on his face as if to say, how do you know about that, and whispered to me "Are you..are you in it?", i said "No, i just know about it thats all"

Interesting. You should have said "yes." I wonder what he would have been willing to tell you then.

You can ask me questions. I don't mind. Shoot away.

erthiz
22-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Yeah i was going to say yes but i read somewhere they have all these secret questions to determine whether or not your a freemason, so i thought "better not" incase he asks me "whats your favourite fish?" and i say cod instead of salmon and then hed know haha :D

Well basically i just wanted to know if anything else has happened lately, because i saw that you posted the story at the end of July. Have any of the people tried to contact you again? Zach, Cris, Renee?

Its very interesting, and i believe you one hundred percent. You'd have to have some imagination if it was made up :D

dsl22
22-10-2009, 10:25 PM
Yeah i was going to say yes but i read somewhere they have all these secret questions to determine whether or not your a freemason, so i thought "better not" incase he asks me "whats your favourite fish?" and i say cod instead of salmon and then hed know haha :D

Well basically i just wanted to know if anything else has happened lately, because i saw that you posted the story at the end of July. Have any of the people tried to contact you again? Zach, Cris, Renee?

Its very interesting, and i believe you one hundred percent. You'd have to have some imagination if it was made up :D

I haven't seen, or spoken to, Zach or Chris in over 2 years.

The last time I saw Renee was actually about a year ago. I haven't spoken to her since then. Renee and I could easily make contact at any time. She is a friend of mine on Facebook. I always see her logged on in the chat window. So, we could talk at any time. I've been tempted to send her a message and see how she is doing.

The only person I'm still in contact with is Luke (Renee's ex-boyfriend.) I saw him 2 weeks ago. We actually shared a bucket of Blue Moon beers, while watching the movie Zombieland. Luke is good friends with a guy that I have known over 15 years. My friend's name is Douglas. Douglas and I grew up in the same neighborhood together. We have been friends our entire lives. His mother has been like a second mother to me. So, in order to eliminate any contact with Luke, I would have to cut off communication with Douglas. Which is something I'm not willing to do, of course. So, basically I'm stuck remaining in contact with Luke, for now.

Lance Kennedy is currently attending Law School at Notre Dame. So, it doesn't look like I'll be seeing him any time soon. Which is probably a good thing because we almost got into a fist fight during our last meeting. :D

dsl22
22-10-2009, 10:38 PM
In all fairness, I should post a link to my facebook page. Seeing how I'm posting links to everyone else. I meant to do this sooner.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=1444299885

Send me an invite!

killuminatiday
23-10-2009, 01:23 AM
It's a long, useless story. Frankly, it's no one's business. It's not my fault that I used to associate with people who turned out to be sociopaths.

no but you are at fault for protecting them. what motive do you have to protect liars?

mind1universe
23-10-2009, 03:24 AM
I just want to say, if this is the right thread. Today I saw a reptilian humanoid today in the pool. He is human of course. But has very noticeable draconian features. Pointed features on face, large jaw. Dark hair, dark eyes, really long arms. Prominent shoulder blades and pelvis. Striking back. You will know straight away if they reptilian if they have powerful shaped backs, this is a dead giveaway. But the way to know is to spot most of these physical traits. Then the next would be to scan their persona and vibe you will know straight away after that. I know most of us are a mixture of many races. But the only reason I noticed he was strongly draconian, was they way he walked.My god, I was pretty taken back by it. He doesn't walk like a normal human being and you can't mistake it for leg problems. He walks like reptile or a bird. His bodyshape is not your average homo sapiens. It's bird like I can't describe it you have to actually see it. It reminds me of the way Ostriches walk. Long legs that turn inwards at the knees. The hands sway and the pelvis sticks out. The head moves like a bird, most reptilians have better pheriphal vision or birds eye view eyesight. They tend to always look from side to side as they walk. Honest to god I was pretty freaked out. Since I'm well able to pick up if someone has reptilian its becoming more obvious the more aware you get. But I was freaked that I never noticed this before and it seemed like he didn't act any different to the people around him.

He seems pretty normal other than that and doesn't give off any vibe of threatening nature. I think the fact that I was aware of him, he was edgy, whether he knows I know, I can't say. But it doesn't matter.

What I don't get how come some normal people or middle class background can have such strong reptilian heritage??:confused:

This man and another man I have seen are stricklingly non human like. But most people don't notice it however. I can't even avoid spotting it even if I tried too. There was another draconian that comes in and I noticed a few others too. My Gym and pool is realy busy, and it has a lot of nationalities there, so you bump into many people all the time. So of course I'm going to spot strange people. But I thought it would be benificial if I posted some of my run ins in what I see as reptilians.

suicidal_martyr
23-10-2009, 04:46 AM
What are the addys or contact info on the reptile chicks? I want to mess with their heads...anyone who knows PM it. ty, dsl said he had it but never posted it, brandy and arwyn or whatever...i want to interact with these f**k bags and see/learn how they are.

(don't worry I will make a different account for whatever messenger/program I am using to mess with them so they don't screw mine up)

alseepnomore
23-10-2009, 04:51 AM
Um. No, I didn't. I answered everyone's questions respectfully and wasn't hostile with anyone. What are you talking about?
Again, what are you talking about? I haven't done anything remotely immature since I've started this thread


here's some of your previous posts:

Now go crawl back under that rock from which you came.

moron.

Now crawl back to the lodge MASON BOY. Just goes to show how little power you pussies have. You can't do anything more to me than troll my threads. PUSSY.

All you have been is immature and hostile throughout the entire thread, lol

I don't believe a word of your story what a crock and if I had to hazard a guess I'd say you have some form of mental illness, either that or you are just too into cyberworld and have too much time on your hands

-It's a pity this has been one of the first threads I've read at this site- I'm hoping it's not all like this lol- I like Icke, who knows if what he says is true- he comes across as a sincere guy and I like his sense of humour- I wonder if he reads and sees people like you rubbishing his forum- people like you give all this stuff a bad name.

suicidal_martyr
23-10-2009, 04:53 AM
Eh, that myspace pic of them is that their page? it says "male"? This page here http://www.myspace.com/410114252 I am trying to find their own... lol why did u make a separate account for that?!?

8 nephila 8
23-10-2009, 05:19 AM
@ mind1universe: All families have Illegitimate children somewhere in them. Perhaps the reptilians are no different than us in that fashion. Just because they aren't classified as British royals or there family no longer lives in Europe doesn't mean they don't have the blood.

suicidal_martyr
23-10-2009, 05:23 AM
@ mind1universe: All families have Illegitimate children somewhere in them. Perhaps the reptilians are no different than us in that fashion. Just because they aren't classified as British royals or there family no longer lives in Europe doesn't mean they don't have the blood.

I AGREE, people seem to think that a whole race of a particular group of beings is bad, because of what some do. If that case, all HUMANS are bad...

erthiz
23-10-2009, 10:09 AM
In all fairness, I should post a link to my facebook page. Seeing how I'm posting links to everyone else. I meant to do this sooner.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=1444299885

Send me an invite!


Ive sent you an invite man, my names Andy :)

Ahh thats cool, just one more to get rid from your life then your sorted! :D

dsl22
23-10-2009, 11:01 AM
Um. No, I didn't. I answered everyone's questions respectfully and wasn't hostile with anyone. What are you talking about?
Again, what are you talking about? I haven't done anything remotely immature since I've started this thread


here's some of your previous posts:

Now go crawl back under that rock from which you came.

moron.

Now crawl back to the lodge MASON BOY. Just goes to show how little power you pussies have. You can't do anything more to me than troll my threads. PUSSY.

All you have been is immature and hostile throughout the entire thread, lol

I don't believe a word of your story what a crock and if I had to hazard a guess I'd say you have some form of mental illness, either that or you are just too into cyberworld and have too much time on your hands

-It's a pity this has been one of the first threads I've read at this site- I'm hoping it's not all like this lol- I like Icke, who knows if what he says is true- he comes across as a sincere guy and I like his sense of humour- I wonder if he reads and sees people like you rubbishing his forum- people like you give all this stuff a bad name.

Uh oh. Another TROLL.

dsl22
23-10-2009, 11:04 AM
What are the addys or contact info on the reptile chicks? I want to mess with their heads...anyone who knows PM it. ty, dsl said he had it but never posted it, brandy and arwyn or whatever...i want to interact with these f**k bags and see/learn how they are.

(don't worry I will make a different account for whatever messenger/program I am using to mess with them so they don't screw mine up)

Please don't harass them. I only wanted to post contact links to verify that my claims involve real people. Not fictitious figures.

The picture of Brandy and Arwyn was from their Myspace page. I put it on a page that I started. That is why it says "Male."

thelyran
23-10-2009, 11:10 AM
@ mind1universe: All families have Illegitimate children somewhere in them. Perhaps the reptilians are no different than us in that fashion. Just because they aren't classified as British royals or there family no longer lives in Europe doesn't mean they don't have the blood.


...tell you the truth madam,most of the Reppie types I know,are strung out on Amphetamine,or well to do middle class,own their own business's,sell drugs
and have certain occult practicioners within the families.One side of them are truelly evil,yet a cousin in the same family,has a completely different upbringing,no occult knowledge,don't practice,and are quite pleasant people.
Within the same family...I only know one elite,connected to the Braun family,
German,as in Eva Braun,Hitlers wife/lover...But you're completely correct.
Regards.

dsl22
23-10-2009, 12:05 PM
The ProjectAvalon.net forum has issued a permanent ban on my account.

Can someone go check that forum for me and perhaps ask why they banned me? There were a lot of problems when I was posting on that forum. My post would never show. It was as if someone/thing was censoring my post.

suicidal_martyr
23-10-2009, 10:04 PM
Please don't harass them. I only wanted to post contact links to verify that my claims involve real people. Not fictitious figures.

The picture of Brandy and Arwyn was from their Myspace page. I put it on a page that I started. That is why it says "Male."

Oh, okay. SOOOooo...

...how bout those contact links? :D

mark1963
23-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Been reading your posts dsl22 and it is very interesting. Keep up the thread if you can and see if you can get some psychic protection.

Best of luck in the future.

dsl22
24-10-2009, 03:27 AM
Oh, okay. SOOOooo...

...how bout those contact links? :D

Be nice. They have already threatened to take legal action against me. They threatened to sue me when I posted their links over on GLP. So, be respectful. You can ask them about me, if you'd like. The purpose of providing links is to verify my story and prove that these are real individuals. Regardless of whether or not my claims about them are true ( which they are.) :D

BE NICE!

Brandy.

http://www.myspace.com/thesailorsaid

Arywn.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewAlbums&friendID=9397164

They're going to attempt to fill your head with all kinds of bullshit about me. Don't believe a word of it. They'll say I'm schizophrenic. That was one explanation they provided over on GLP. On another forum, they claimed to have Googled my name and discovered my interest in Reptilian conspiracy theories. Which is entirely untrue, because they were harassing me for 8 months before I ever spoke about it on the internet. Googling my name wouldn't have allowed them to find the information, anyways.

They keep changing their story, because they are clearly lying.

suicidal_martyr
24-10-2009, 10:15 PM
Be nice. They have already threatened to take legal action against me. They threatened to sue me when I posted their links over on GLP. So, be respectful. You can ask them about me, if you'd like. The purpose of providing links is to verify my story and prove that these are real individuals. Regardless of whether or not my claims about them are true ( which they are.) :D

BE NICE!

Brandy.

http://www.myspace.com/thesailorsaid

Arywn.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewAlbums&friendID=9397164

They're going to attempt to fill your head with all kinds of bullshit about me. Don't believe a word of it. They'll say I'm schizophrenic. That was one explanation they provided over on GLP. On another forum, they claimed to have Googled my name and discovered my interest in Reptilian conspiracy theories. Which is entirely untrue, because they were harassing me for 8 months before I ever spoke about it on the internet. Googling my name wouldn't have allowed them to find the information, anyways.

They keep changing their story, because they are clearly lying.

No worries, they won't even know that I know of you. I am just a random guy moving to texas looking for new friends as far as they know.

dsl22
24-10-2009, 10:17 PM
No worries, they won't even know that I know of you. I am just a random guy moving to texas looking for new friends as far as they know.

LoL :D

suicidal_martyr
24-10-2009, 11:12 PM
re-reading what happened makes me wonder, if they are reptilians maybe they aren't bad and just see how you view them all and were being humerous about it? I decided I am not going to mess with them, especially brandy, her profile just comes off as a regular, good person to me despite the reptilian humor. Arwynn I don't know, she seems a bit of a freak and will have to add. Will make a different myspace profile, ROFL. I don't think they are all necessarily bad. I think if I were a reptilian and saw how I was viewed I would probably crack jokes and being humorous with that person about it as well, haha. Who knows, is weird stuff still going on with ya?

dsl22
25-10-2009, 12:24 AM
re-reading what happened makes me wonder, if they are reptilians maybe they aren't bad and just see how you view them all and were being humerous about it? I decided I am not going to mess with them, especially brandy, her profile just comes off as a regular, good person to me despite the reptilian humor. Arwynn I don't know, she seems a bit of a freak and will have to add. Will make a different myspace profile, ROFL. I don't think they are all necessarily bad. I think if I were a reptilian and saw how I was viewed I would probably crack jokes and being humorous with that person about it as well, haha. Who knows, is weird stuff still going on with ya?

I never said that I view all Reptilians as being bad. However, I'm convinced that these individuals are working on the side of the ones that are.

In Thomas Costello's eyewitness testimony, there were good Reptilians working at the Dulce facility. Reptilians that didn't support the genetic experimentation being done on humans. Nor did they support the genetic experimentation being done on Reptilians. This caused clicks of humans and Reptilians to be formed within the facility. According to Costello's testimony, the positive relationship between the humans and Reptilians was eventually discovered by the Reptilians that controlled the facility. The malevolent Reptilians eventually killed all of the benevolent Reptilians at the facility. This situation, among others, caused Costello to stop working at the facility and eventually share his story. Which allegedly lead to his disappearance.

Don't get me wrong. I've thought about the possibility that these Reptilians could have been benevolent messengers of some kind. However, as time went on, I could clearly see that this wasn't the case. They were warning me to stay away from the information.

I was voicing a desire to friends and family about getting a Law Degree and eventually getting into politics. In order to push conspiracy information onto the public. I think the Reptilians freaked out and saw what I was capable of. So, they used time travel technology to implant their operatives into every aspect of my life. As a result, I have dropped out of school with no plans of ever returning.

On top of getting into politics, I wanted to host a show on public access television to push ET information onto the public. In Austin, TX there are already multiple shows like that. Not only that, I know a guy that is friends with ALL of these public access television host. He owns a conspiracy bookstore called Brave New Books. It is located only about 5 blocks from my apartment. This guy (Harland) came into the job that I was working with Arwyn and Brandy.

We had a discussion where he offered to introduce me to all of these public access television host. He told me to come up to the bookstore so that I could meet them. THE ONLY REASON I NEVER WENT WAS BECAUSE OF THE HARASSMENT FROM BRANDY AND ARYWN. If it wasn't for their threats, I would have been up at that bookstore 2 years ago. As a result of their harassment, I still refuse to go up there to this day out of fear of what may happen to me.

I think the Reptilians were worried about that, as well.

suicidal_martyr
25-10-2009, 12:32 AM
Crazy experiences. I wish I could know some, then again I probably already do or have and not even know about it. One person I do know he is kind of shady, but his teeth are weird they all are separate and look chiseled as if to sharpen them. Fricken weird, he was cool but always came off as shady and secretive. His father was a pastor and mother worked for a martin and bailey gas company. Also I notced the zack guys face book, he is wearing sun glasses in the photo. And it's darkened room, weird...also seems to be interested in Ben Stiller, I think he is jewish isn't he??

quetzalcoatl
25-10-2009, 07:34 AM
My original impression was that maybe these people ya worked with were fucking with ya head... Having re-read your story here, I'm not too sure. Although all it would've taken is for you to drop a hint about the existence of Reptilians, somewhere - even if it were only to a friend of a friend etc.. - & they (these suspected Reptilians) might've caught wind, done a bit of re-search & out of pure boredom of working @ a pizza joint or simply because they are perhaps bitches or they perceived a 'easily irritable wound' per-se & began picking @ it..

Now, I see it goes a bit deeper. If they claim they googled ya name & this is how they found your interest / re-search into Reptilians - then that might be harmless enough & they're perhaps just tryna mind fuck ya.. (cunts! *shakes fist* LOL! :D) Yet, you claim they either bugged your or your olds house or had been telepathically reading your mind - now the former is easy enough to prove / disprove.. yet looking @ their pictures I don't instantly get the impression your dealing with 'high level witches' or anything, especially since the real danger enemy wouldn't let such crap slip in the work place..

Here's a few things that stuck out for me;


Once I realized these people weren't human, I took the entire situation as a learning experience to obtain accurate information on Reptilian shape shifters. I wanted to leave the job much sooner than I did. I stayed to get info. They kept feeding me information through their statements. Here is the bizarre aspect. The majority of these individual's statements were made amongst themselves. I was simply overhearing tidbits of their conversations. These Reptilians weren't aware of the fact that I could hear their conversations. They believed they were speaking amongst themselves telepathically.

However, because of the fact that I KNEW(not thought) that they were Reptilian shape shifters; I was able to tap into their telepathic conversations. This is why I was able to hear them make literally dozens of references to Reptilian information in their conversations. They were completely oblivious to the fact that I could hear them.

These Reptilians didn't realize that I could hear them until I openly stated this on the internet in Feb. of 2008. Shortly after this I walked into work one day and overheard Brandy speaking with another employee. They were looking over at me. I distinctly heard Brandy say,"You have to be careful now because he can hear us." The other employee replied,"He can hear us now?" Brandy said,"Yeah. He can hear everything we're saying." As if this was surprising to them.

At this point, I'm wondering what the hell they are talking about."He can hear us now"? What the fuck does that mean? Of course I could hear them. I could hear everything they were saying for the last 8 months. They were speaking. Why wouldn't I be able to hear them? Nothing they were saying made any rational sense, whatsoever. Thinking back on the situation, the only thing that comes to mind is telepathy. The way the Reptilians can read the minds of human beings is the same way we can do it to them. We just don't realize it yet. Due to the fact that I was aware of the Reptilian side of these people meant that they could no longer hide it from me.

So, I was able to listen to numerous conversations they were having without their knowledge of it. I overheard Arwyn say,"I wonder if eating a person that is a vegetarian still makes you a vegetarian." To which one of the employees replied," Of course not. If you eat a cow, that is considered meat. A cow doesn't eat meat." They weren't aware of the fact that I overheard this. Even though, they said it right in front of me. Each time they made a reference like this I just carried on with my business as usual. I didn't even look up to acknowledge their statements.

This is what Brandy was referring to when she said," He can hear us now." After I posted this on the net explaining the things I overheard them say, they finally realized that I could hear their telepathic conversations. Brandy actually came over to me immediately after saying this and said,"What deliveries do you want to take?" I said," I don't care." There were 4 deliveries on the computer screen. That meant 2 a piece. She said,"Cmon just choose 2." I said," I really don't care." She said,"Cmon use your magickal powers to see the future and determine which ones will tip the most." I said,"Magickal powers?" She winked and said,"Yeah. You know, your magikal powers." She starts naming off what the tip amounts are going to be. She was clearly making another reference to esoteric information pertaining to

I can't help getting the impression here that you are somehow struggling to distinguish the difference between eves dropping or simply over-hearing conversations & telepathically reading someones mind - & there really should be absolutely no doubt or confusion between the two. ;) Also, I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life as to have a 'telepathic communication' (if that's what it was in this instance) about whether or not "eating a vegetarian person is being vegetarian".. my God! - I'll sort 'em out for ya! ;)

Dude.. I think this is a massive leap to an erroneous conclusion to call this 'proof of time travel by the Illuminati'.. - Now, of-course it is possible for information / visions or energy etc to transcend time & space.. yet I fail to see the motive of the 'Illuminati' (that just so happened to infiltrate a pizza parlor, by time traveling into the past of all places) dropping an empty money bag out-side ya door..

When I say I've seen evidence of the reality of time travel, I'm being dead serious. Here is one example of time travel that I experienced while working with the suspicious individuals.

One day, I returned to my apartment after a trip to the grocery store. I was walking up to my door with bags of groceries in both hands. As I was approaching the steps to my front door, I noticed something very strange laying on the ground. It was a bank deposit envelope from the pizza place that I was working at. This was the same kind of envelope I had seen multiple times while working at the pizza place. It is used for depositing the cash that the restaurant makes in a day or weeks time.

The envelope was basically a clear baggy with a place for writing in the date of the deposit and the amount. When I saw the envelope I recognized it immediately. I could clearly see that the envelope was empty. There was no cash inside of it. It was empty.

I didn't bend down to pick it up right away. My hands were full of bags of groceries and the keys to my apartment. I planned on going back to pick it up when I took out the trash. When I took the trash out the envelope had mysteriously disappeared. I simply thought to myself, "Hmmmm. That is strange. Why did I just see that?"

The next night, I went into work. Well, it turns out, that somebody had actually stolen the envelope the night before. After the restaurant had closed. This means that I witnessed the envelope sitting in front of my apartment steps 12 hours prior to the robbery taking place and 36 hours before I found out about the robbery .Keep in mind, this happened at a time that I was suspecting my coworkers of being shape shifters that used time travel to track me down.

I honestly thought they were playing a joke on me. I didn't tell them that I had witnessed the envelope in front of my apartment the day of the robbery. That would have looked suspicious. I kept my mouth shut about seeing the envelope the day before.

It was as if I had some kind of precognitive vision into the future. A minor one, but a precognitive vision, nonetheless. I don't need anyone to tell me that time travel is real because I've actually experienced it myself. When Alex Collier claims that the Reptilians came from outside of our dimension of time and space, he is dead on in my opinion.

Get the point?

If anything this 'proves' you hast teh psychic abilities, precognition & clairvoyance etc.. ;)

And, I got your PM arela. I checked out your forum. Cool place. I might not join just because it's hard to juggle more than a couple of forums at one time.

The discussions tend to get long and drawn out. When I go from one forum to another I tend to lose my place. I'll forget what information I spoke about on each forum. It makes it hard to post new experiences.

My next stop will be the Project Camelot forum. I may go ahead and set up an interview. They offered me one already. They sent me a message on my youtube account asking me if somebody had ever interviewed me. I had no idea who they were at the time. When I found out, I simply deleted my youtube account.


I simply can't ever imagine this ever being a problem - yet I do understand when there's much to answer or thread drag on etc.. yet, what be the issue if you forgot about what 'information you spoke of'? - could you perhaps find it difficult keeping track of parts of the story & where you said what, or something?? Least anyone find any 'unexplainable discrepancies' perhaps??? :p

Tell ya what ya shud do - although no-one ever listens to me - you should assume absolutely nothing! & laugh about absolutely everything! ;)

If ya really think demons / reptilians are 'out to get ya' / harassing ya (chasing you in cars, flashing lights etc..) then smile / wave & make light of it, if possible.. other-wise try pulling over; get out & wave them over & ask them why they're flashing lights @ ya (which probably wont work, yet may help in dispelling some 'myths') - who knows, might simply turn out that ya got a tail light out or something..

Over-all trust me demons or evil cannot beat a healthy sense of humor or a happy go lucky attitude - so develop a good sense of humor & you'll be near invincible; let these other 'stupid creatures' play their games (don't let it get to ya) you are above all that crap! ;)

Also, in regards to your mate Zach; I kinda doubt people would hook ya up with weed then set out to beat the shit out of ya or something.. how strange - tis possible tho', yet would surely be rather 'counter-productive' in many ways. I just somehow doubt it man..

Maybe that dude was talking about someone else, related to the phone conversation perhaps?? :confused:

dsl22
25-10-2009, 09:36 AM
My original impression was that maybe these people ya worked with were fucking with ya head... Having re-read your story here, I'm not too sure. Although all it would've taken is for you to drop a hint about the existence of Reptilians, somewhere - even if it were only to a friend of a friend etc.. - & they (these suspected Reptilians) might've caught wind, done a bit of re-search & out of pure boredom of working @ a pizza joint or simply because they are perhaps bitches or they perceived a 'easily irritable wound' per-se & began picking @ it..

That is the entire point. I never once mentioned any interest in these subjects. None of my friends were associated with these individuals. The first statement I ever heard out of their mouths took place in July of 2007. One of the employees picked up a container of sauce, looked at another employee, and said," The secret ingredient in this is WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. As if they were making fun of me. I am Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes.

Keep in mind, I didn't mention one word to these individuals about my interest in Reptilian conspiracy theories. They just knew it. I also had not spoken about my interest in these subjects on the internet, at this point. So, Googling my name isn't a plausible explanation. Due to the fact that I didn't speak about my interest in these subjects until Feb. of 2008.:D

Now, I see it goes a bit deeper. If they claim they googled ya name & this is how they found your interest / re-search into Reptilians - then that might be harmless enough & they're perhaps just tryna mind fuck ya.. (cunts! *shakes fist* LOL! ) Yet, you claim they either bugged your or your olds house or had been telepathically reading your mind - now the former is easy enough to prove / disprove.. yet looking @ their pictures I don't instantly get the impression your dealing with 'high level witches' or anything, especially since the real danger enemy wouldn't let such crap slip in the work place..

They have provided three different explanations regarding their statements towards me. One, they Googled my name. I have already proven that claim to be false. Two, they claim that I'm a schizophrenic that is hearing things. Which contradicts claim number one. Due to the fact that they admitted making these statements. Three, they claim that I'm lying, for some odd reason.

The only reason people change their story is because they're liars. :p




I can't help getting the impression here that you are somehow struggling to distinguish the difference between eves dropping or simply over-hearing conversations & telepathically reading someones mind - & there really should be absolutely no doubt or confusion between the two. ;) Also, I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life as to have a 'telepathic communication' (if that's what it was in this instance) about whether or not "eating a vegetarian person is being vegetarian".. my God! - I'll sort 'em out for ya!

In one case, I was standing right beside Brandy. About 3 feet away. She was complaining about how expensive everything was. She said," The price of everything is going up. Food, gas, drugs, BLOOD." When she said "BLOOD" I immediately looked over at her. She jerked her head in my direction and said," I mean cocaine. The price of cocaine is going up." She was surprised that I had heard her statement regarding "BLOOD." She tried to cover it up by saying," I mean cocaine." Why would she be surprised that I could hear her? It doesn't make any sense. I was standing less than 5 feet away from her.

I was leaning up against a crate of marinara sauce when I overheard her statement about "BLOOD." Immediately, Arwyn walked over to me and said," Hey David. Get away from that. That is my weekly supply of BLOOD. I need that to last me all week." She took the crate away. To which I replied,"BLOOD?!" She said," Yeah. That is my weekly supply of BLOOD. Stay away from it. I need that to last me all week." I was speechless. I just turned around and walked off thinking to myself," Did the girl with fucking snake tattoos, snake earrings, snake sunglasses, and snakeskin purse just say she has weekly supply of BLOOD that she needs to ration?! WTF is going on here?" :eek::eek::eek:

I literally turned in my two weeks notice the next day. At the end of that 2 weeks, I came into work on my last day. The schedule for the next week was posted. Arwyn was actually the person in charge of making the schedule. I checked the schedule to make sure that my name wasn't on it. Not only was my name on it. The schedule read," The Illuminati silenced David." I was scheduled for a full week.

Needless to say, I stopped showing up and haven't seen any of these assholes since. How do you explain this? :p

Dude.. I think this is a massive leap to an erroneous conclusion to call this 'proof of time travel by the Illuminati'.. - Now, of-course it is possible for information / visions or energy etc to transcend time & space.. yet I fail to see the motive of the 'Illuminati' (that just so happened to infiltrate a pizza parlor, by time traveling into the past of all places) dropping an empty money bag out-side ya door..

I never claimed that they did drop a money bag outside of my door. I said in my post that it was a clairvoyant vision into the future. Ironically, the robbery that I had a vision of was an "inside job." Whoever stole the envelope from the restaurant had a key to get inside. Meaning it was one of the former managers that committed the robbery.

I saw the envelope in front of my doorsteps 12 hours before the robbery took place. I didn't find out about the robbery until 36 hours after my vision. Either way, I witnessed something happen in the time grid. I believe there is a connection to my suspicions regarding these individuals using time travel to track me down.

They use social security numbers, paychecks, bills, etc. to track down their enemies. They didn't send anyone back in time. They sent the information regarding my employment back in time. They gave that information to operatives that were naturally born within this dimension of time and space. Arwyn and Brandy were born human and conditioned to be possessed by something else.


I simply can't ever imagine this ever being a problem - yet I do understand when there's much to answer or thread drag on etc.. yet, what be the issue if you forgot about what 'information you spoke of'? - could you perhaps find it difficult keeping track of parts of the story & where you said what, or something?? Least anyone find any 'unexplainable discrepancies' perhaps???

I was on 4 different forums at one time. Her's would have been the 5th. When I go to that many forums, I have to look back at all of the previous pages of information to make sure I'm not repeating the same experiences multiple times. It is time consuming. Time that I don't have, nor care to spend. I have to be picky about the forums I speak on. I tend to focus on the biggest forums in order to get the information out to as many people as possible.

The only "unexplainable discrepancies" you can find in my story exist within your own convoluted mind. Most of your criticisms revolve around taking my statements out of context. You're putting way too much thought into it. I suppose that is better than putting way too little. I guess you can say you're making up for those who don't put any thought into things at all. :)



Tell ya what ya shud do - although no-one ever listens to me - you should assume absolutely nothing! & laugh about absolutely everything! ;)

If ya really think demons / reptilians are 'out to get ya' / harassing ya (chasing you in cars, flashing lights etc..) then smile / wave & make light of it, if possible.. other-wise try pulling over; get out & wave them over & ask them why they're flashing lights @ ya (which probably wont work, yet may help in dispelling some 'myths') - who knows, might simply turn out that ya got a tail light out or something..

The cars that are flashing their headlights are all pretty text book "gang stalking" tactics. You should look up "gang stalking." That is what is taking place with the car headlights and the harassment at work. Tactics such as this are actually well documented. They have been used since World War II by the Nazi Secret Service. The Nazi's would harass radio host and political activist that were against their agenda.

My situation fits this scenario perfectly. Being that I was openly expressing a desire to friends and family to get a public access television show that would promote anti-governmental sentiments. In my situation, they started gang stalking me years before I was in a position to obtain a show. That is part of the reason I believe TIME TRAVEL is a large factor of the equation.

The Reptilians didn't wait around for me to get a television show. They implanted their operatives into my life as soon as I started thinking about getting a show (telepathy.) They harassed me to the point where I no longer feel safe getting a show. It's a brilliant move on their part. When you really think about it.



Over-all trust me demons or evil cannot beat a healthy sense of humor or a happy go lucky attitude - so develop a good sense of humor & you'll be near invincible; let these other 'stupid creatures' play their games (don't let it get to ya) you are above all that crap!

Also, in regards to your mate Zach; I kinda doubt people would hook ya up with weed then set out to beat the shit out of ya or something.. how strange - tis possible tho', yet would surely be rather 'counter-productive' in many ways. I just somehow doubt it man..

Maybe that dude was talking about someone else, related to the phone conversation perhaps?? :confused:

His brother was speaking to a girl on the phone. They were simply talking about normal subjects. I wasn't trying to listen, but he was sitting on the couch next to me and I could clearly hear the girl's voice on the other line. I'm pretty sure it was his girlfriend.

As far as Zach and the weed goes. Zach getting me weed was the only way he was able to maintain contact with me. Zach wasn't a drug dealer. He wasn't a person that I bought weed through on a regular basis. The only reason I called him for weed was because everyone else I knew didn't have anything.

If it wasn't for weed, that entire situation never would have taken place. We weren't friends. I never would have contacted Zach had it not been for the weed connection. The weed was a tool that Zach could use to maintain contact.

dsl22
25-10-2009, 09:59 AM
Crazy experiences. I wish I could know some, then again I probably already do or have and not even know about it. One person I do know he is kind of shady, but his teeth are weird they all are separate and look chiseled as if to sharpen them. Fricken weird, he was cool but always came off as shady and secretive. His father was a pastor and mother worked for a martin and bailey gas company. Also I notced the zack guys face book, he is wearing sun glasses in the photo. And it's darkened room, weird...also seems to be interested in Ben Stiller, I think he is jewish isn't he??

It is entirely possible that you could have been face to face with one of them and not known about it. There was another guy I mentioned in part one that knew Zach as well. His name was Jay. I believe Jay was researching these Reptilian conspiracy theories, just as I was. I wasn't friends with Jay. I actually met him through Zach. I went to Jay's apt. on 2 separate occasions.

Jay and his girlfriend had Hindu artwork painted on the walls of the apartment. On the 2 occasions that I went to Jay's apartment with Zach, Jay seemed to be extremely uncomfortable with Zach and I. Or, at least with Zach. Zach called me one day and said," Man this fucker Jay moved apartments and won't answer my phone calls. He still has a couple of my DVDs." I was like,"Hmmmm. That is strange." Zach openly expressed a desire to go up to Jay's job and confront him.

Here is the strange thing. 6 months later, I was convinced that Zach was stalking me. So, when I moved apartments, I cut off communication with Zach entirely. He attempted to call, but I wouldn't answer. Then about a month later that guy Chris (former mafia drug dealer) came into my job. He asked me if I had talked to Zach. I told him "no." Chris started urging me to call Zach. Chris said that Zach and he had spoken recently. He said that Zach told him that he couldn't get a hold of me. I just said," Okay, sure. I'll do that." Even though I had no such intentions.

That's when it hit me. I started thinking about the situation with Jay. Jay cut off communication with Zach in the same strange manner that I did. He moved apts. and refused to answer Zach's phone calls. That is exactly the same thing I did. It appears that Jay suspected the same thing about Zach that I did. Jay and I were both being gang stalked by Zach. All because we were researching Reptilian conspiracy theories.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if it is happening to you. I would almost guarantee that it is. Based on what I've seen. I would say that it is probably happening to many of you and you haven't figured it out, yet.

quetzalcoatl
25-10-2009, 10:16 AM
That is the entire point. I never once mentioned any interest in these subjects. None of my friends were associated with these individuals. The first statement I ever heard out of their mouths took place in July of 2007. One of the employees picked up a container of sauce, looked at another employee, and said," The secret ingredient in this is WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. As if they were making fun of me. I am Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes.

Keep in mind, I didn't mention one word to these individuals about my interest in Reptilian conspiracy theories. They just knew it. I also had not spoken about my interest in these subjects on the internet, at this point. So, Googling my name isn't a plausible explanation. Due to the fact that I didn't speak about my interest in these subjects until Feb. of 2008.:D


They have provided three different explanations regarding their statements towards me. One, they Googled my name. I have already proven that claim to be false. Two, they claim that I'm a schizophrenic that is hearing things. Which contradicts claim number one. Due to the fact that they admitted making these statements. Three, they claim that I'm lying, for some odd reason.

The only reason people change their story is because they're liars.


In one case, I was standing right beside Brandy. About 3 feet away. She was complaining about how expensive everything was. She said," The price of everything is going up. Food, gas, drugs, BLOOD." When she said "BLOOD" I immediately looked over at her. She jerked her head in my direction and said," I mean cocaine. The price of cocaine is going up." She was surprised that I had heard her statement regarding "BLOOD." She tried to cover it up by saying," I mean cocaine." Why would she be surprised that I could hear her? It doesn't make any sense. I was standing less than 5 feet away from her.

I was leaning up against a crate of marinara sauce when I overheard her statement about "BLOOD." Immediately, Arwyn walked over to me and said," Hey David. Get away from that. That is my weekly supply of BLOOD. I need that to last me all week." She took the crate away. To which I replied,"BLOOD?!" She said," Yeah. That is my weekly supply of BLOOD. Stay away from it. I need that to last me all week." I was speechless. I just turned around and walked off thinking to myself," Did the girl with fucking snake tattoos, snake earrings, snake sunglasses, and snakeskin purse just say she has weekly supply of BLOOD that she needs to ration?! WTF is going on here?"

I literally turned in my two weeks notice the next day. At the end of that 2 weeks, I came into work on my last day. The schedule for the next week was posted. Arwyn was actually the person in charge of making the schedule. I checked the schedule to make sure that my name wasn't on it. Not only was my name on it. The schedule read," The Illuminati silenced David." I was scheduled for a full week.

Needless to say, I stopped showing up and haven't seen any of these assholes since. How do you explain this?

Well that's great news man! no more harassment from 'Reptilians'.. ;)



I never claimed that they did drop a money bag outside of my door. I said in my post that it was a clairvoyant vision into the future. Ironically, the robbery that I had a vision of was an "inside job." Whoever stole the envelope from the restaurant had a key to get inside. Meaning it was one of the former managers that committed the robbery.

I saw the envelope in front of my doorsteps 12 hours before the robbery took place. I didn't find out about the robbery until 36 hours after my vision. Either way, I witnessed something happen in the time grid. I believe there is a connection to my suspicions regarding these individuals using time travel to track me down.

They use social security numbers, paychecks, bills, etc. to track down their enemies. They didn't send anyone back in time. They sent the information regarding my employment back in time. They gave that information to operatives that were naturally born within this dimension of time and space. Arwyn and Brandy were born human and conditioned to be possessed by something else.

Right... I was far more interested in the whole theme of 'time traveling' to make sure operatives were in your place of employment or whatever, than how the empty money bag appeared out-side ya apartment. Still feel this is a massive stretch, but whatever.. Just how could they (the Illuminati) have deemed you a 'threat' from social security info etc?? :confused:

What you nit-pick, shall define ya! :p



I was on 4 different forums at one time. Her's would have been the 5th. When I go to that many forums, I have to look back at all of the previous pages of information to make sure I'm not repeating the same experiences multiple times. It is time consuming. Time that I don't have, nor care to spend. I have to be picky about the forums I speak on. I tend to focus on the biggest forums in order to get the information out to as many people as possible.

The only "unexplainable discrepancies" you can find in my story exist within your own convoluted mind. Most of your criticisms revolve around taking my statements out of context. You're putting way too much thought into it. I suppose that is better than putting way too little. I guess you can say you're making up for those who don't put any thought into things at all. :)

LOL! :D - okay.. if ya say so.. :p was just a question mister, no need to turn nasty.. I do still reckon tis a bit of a 'lame excuse' because how hard is it, if questions are repeating, to simply post links - or as you've done above quote the same old original material of your 'harassment' - why don't ya go take the matter up with employment lawyers or something?? (if you feel you've been harassed into moving on etc) - surely they can't ALL be Illuminati?? ;)



The cars that are flashing their headlights are all pretty text book "gang stalking" tactics. You should look up "gang stalking." That is what is taking place with the car headlights and the harassment at work. Tactics such as this are actually well documented. They have been used since World War II by the Nazi Secret Service. The Nazi's would harass radio host and political activist that were against their agenda.

My situation fits this scenario perfectly. Being that I was openly expressing a desire to friends and family to get a public access television show that would promote anti-governmental sentiments. In my situation, they started gang stalking me years before I was in a position to obtain a show. That is part of the reason I believe TIME TRAVEL is a large factor of the equation.

The Reptilians didn't wait around for me to get a television show. They implanted their operatives into my life as soon as I started thinking about getting a show (telepathy.) They harassed me to the point where I no longer feel safe getting a show. It's a brilliant move on their part. When you really think about it.



His brother was speaking to a girl on the phone. They were simply talking about normal subjects. I wasn't trying to listen, but he was sitting on the couch next to me and I could clearly hear the girl's voice on the other line. I'm pretty sure it was his girlfriend.

As far as Zach and the weed goes. Zach getting me weed was the only way he was able to maintain contact with me. Zach wasn't a drug dealer. He wasn't a person that I bought weed through on a regular basis. The only reason I called him for weed was because everyone else I knew didn't have anything.

If it wasn't for weed, that entire situation never would have taken place. We weren't friends. I never would have contacted Zach had it not been for the weed connection. The weed was a tool that Zach could use to maintain contact.


Think ya kinda miss the whole point of what I'm trying to convey here.. so do ya really think this character was trying to re-establish contact with ya - through hooking ya up with weed - purely to smash ya??

Other-wise if anything else was the motive - you've now broken of contact, right?? so nothing really to worry about, hopefully. :confused:

Over-all, I can't really see this going any-where, but in circles.. seems like ya avoiding certain things that I'd like to know more about & nit-picking others, that doesn't really make any difference to your 'experiences'..

So good luck to ya! ;)

flyermay
25-10-2009, 11:07 AM
That is the entire point. I never once mentioned any interest in these subjects. None of my friends were associated with these individuals. The first statement I ever heard out of their mouths took place in July of 2007. One of the employees picked up a container of sauce, looked at another employee, and said," The secret ingredient in this is WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. As if they were making fun of me. I am Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes.

Keep in mind, I didn't mention one word to these individuals about my interest in Reptilian conspiracy theories. They just knew it. I also had not spoken about my interest in these subjects on the internet, at this point. So, Googling my name isn't a plausible explanation. Due to the fact that I didn't speak about my interest in these subjects until Feb. of 2008.:D


But for what you are saying they never talked with you about reptilians, did they? You also never saw any of them shape-shift, did you? And when your friend saw a tail on this girl's back, you didn't saw it, did you? Besides, didn't you said that their eyes are the first thing to shape-shift.

It looks obvious to me that Arwyn had an interest in 'gore' before you even met her (probably all your workmates –it’s quite common these days-); as you can see on her myspace profile: "Arwyn the vampire slayer". Is it so strange that a girl that calls herself the "vampire slayer" has an interest in this kind of stuff?

Have you thought about the possibility of having an obsession with this stuff -which you probably had already before meeting any of them, and which probably came from your father's interest in UFOs- which reflects on your behaviour towards anyone you meet; therefore making them think you are a freak (even if you're not) and find it amusing to play games on you and harass you?

I've spent a couple of hours reading your posts on this forum and on GLP, and it looks to me like you're just jumping to weird conclusions because you read/watched far too many stuff related to UFOs, illuminati, freemasonry, bloodcurdling rituals, kabbalah, 911, ETs, Russian mafia, time travel, magick, reptilians, and all the other conspiracy theories you mentioned.

Plus, the fact that you admit many times being on drugs/alcohol, and that you wanted to start a TV programme and write a book isn't also doing any favour to your story: IMHO, you have all the tickets for a drug induced paranoia or simply seeking attention. Though don't think you're necessarily lying to us; probably just exaggerating a bit ;).

dsl22
25-10-2009, 11:11 AM
Well that's great news man! no more harassment from 'Reptilians'.. ;)

I left that job in May of 2008. I'm still in contact with Luke. I saw him 2 weeks ago. He is good friends with a person that I've known for 15 years. It's kind of hard to avoid contact with Luke.






Right... I was far more interested in the whole theme of 'time traveling' to make sure operatives were in your place of employment or whatever, than how the empty money bag appeared out-side ya apartment. Still feel this is a massive stretch, but whatever.. Just how could they (the Illuminati) have deemed you a 'threat' from social security info etc??

Social Security numbers, bill payments, rent payments, roads, etc. are used to determine a person's location on the economic grid at any given time. The monetary system is used as a tracking grid.

In order to get a show on television I have to pay money and establish dates within which that show will be aired. It only cost me $150 a year to do this. I personally have come into contact with individuals that do this. The Illuminati has TIME TRAVEL technology that allows them to see into the future and the past.

Meaning they can see completed episodes, interviews with whitsleblowers, witnesses before those episodes are ever created. Getting a show on television and informing people of their existence is a threat to their species.

Are you familiar with people like Dan Burisch, David Wilcock, Alex Collier, etc. They all say these extra-terrestrials have time travel technology. I believe this technology is being used to track down humans that pose any kind of a threat to them. Not just me. Multiple individuals around the world.








LOL! :D - okay.. if ya say so.. :p was just a question mister, no need to turn nasty.. I do still reckon tis a bit of a 'lame excuse' because how hard is it, if questions are repeating, to simply post links - or as you've done above quote the same old original material of your 'harassment' - why don't ya go take the matter up with employment lawyers or something?? (if you feel you've been harassed into moving on etc) - surely they can't ALL be Illuminati?? ;)

Why do you care whether or not I go over to her forum? I don't have time to juggle more than a few forums. It takes time to type information up. You act like I have all day to dedicate time towards this.

The idea with Gang Stalking is that the harassment can't be construed as being illegal. Nothing these individuals did was technically illegal. There would be no point in taking the issue up with lawyers. Not to mention, I don't have the money for that.










Think ya kinda miss the whole point of what I'm trying to convey here.. so do ya really think this character was trying to re-establish contact with ya - through hooking ya up with weed - purely to smash ya??

Yes. I think Zach sent his Mafia connected friend (Chris) to my job to re-establish contact with me. I think Zach was connected to the Mafia, as well. This is the entire point. 15 minutes after Zach told his brother to,"Beat the shit out of him(me)" I witnessed Zach's eyes shape shift. That was my first shape shift to ever witness. At a time, when I didn't really believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters. I had heard of them and read a little information on them, but I didn't fully believe in their existence.

This situation convinced me that Zach was a Reptilian Shape Shifter. After researching the subject for a few more months I, I started coming across shape shifter videos on the net. I have seen numerous videos that clearly represent what I saw in Zach's eyes that night. After seeing the video evidence, I knew that Zach had to be a Reptilian Shape Shifter.

dsl22
25-10-2009, 11:28 AM
But for what you are saying they never talked with you about reptilians, did they?

They made direct references to the information. Blood drinking, cannibalism, child mutilation, the emphasis on Caucasian people (genetics.) Arwyn actually drew a picture on one of the illustrations I've seen on multiple Reptilian conspiracy sites. An illustration that was drawn by an eyewitness. Underneath the illustration there was a message that said," And this will show up....." She actually waved it in my face one day as I came into work.

The illustration Arwyn drew looked exactly like this. It was a blatant reference to information found on these types conspiracy websites.

http://www.ivantic.net/Dejvid%20Ajk%20i%20zavere/reptoidi/Tailess-Reptoid_4web.jpg

You also never saw any of them shape-shift, did you?

Yup. The only one I ever saw shape shift at that job was Arwyn (for obvious reasons.) I would constantly see her eyes change from brown to pitch black. In situations when we were face to face. There is actually a video out there with David Icke discussing how he saw Ted Heath shape shift with black eyes. Many people have reported black eyes in individuals that they suspect to be Reptilians shape shifters.

Arwyn told me one time," I know what you do at night." I replied," What, get high and jerk off?" She looked at me with a very serious look on her face and said, " No. I'm talking about the other things." I knew she was referring to my research. I simply replied," So, what are you going to do about it?" I was always on the net researching (not discussing) this Reptilian stuff late at night. There was no information posted for her to Google and find. I still had not posted anything regarding this subject, at the time. There was no way for her to know about that without telepathy.

10 minutes after I quit that job, I witnessed a shape shift in a random person that was sitting at a bus stop. The guy's hair went away and his skin turned charcoal black with white mesh patterns from head to toe. The only way to describe his skin is having the appearance of snake skin. I drove back by him a second time very slowly to get a good look at him. The shape of his body was still the same, but his skin from his bald head to the tips of his fingers were completely changed. I don't know if this person was actually a Reptilian, or if I was seeing an entity that was randomly possessing this person and screwing with me.


And when your friend saw a tail on this girl's back, you didn't saw it, did you?

Nope. Here is the strange thing about that situation. My friend who witnessed that shape shift is named "Curtis." His brother,"Brandon" was there to witness the situation. Brandon has researched Reptilian Conspiracy Theories and is open minded to the situation. Curtis thinks we are nuts. Yet, Curtis was the person that witnessed the shape shift. The problem is, Brandon and I remember the situation vividly. When we asked Curtis about the incident, Curtis told us that he can't remember anything that happened. He has no clue what Brandon and I are talking about. Neither does the girl. It was as if something was screwing around with Brandon and me. Because we took the information seriously.

That situation actually took place last Thanksgiving night.


Besides, didn't you said that their eyes are the first thing to shape-shift.

She had her back to us. She was looking over the railing of a balcony. We couldn't see her eyes. They still could have been the first part of her body to shape shift. Those are David Icke's claims about the eyes being the first to shift.

It looks obvious to me that Arwyn had an interest in 'gore' before you even met her (probably all your workmates –it’s quite common these days-); as you can see on her myspace profile: "Arwyn the vampire slayer". Is it so strange that a girl that calls herself the "vampire slayer" has an interest in this kind of stuff?

No. It is strange that all 10 employees had superior knowledge on the subject to myself. Arwyn wasn't the only person at the job making references to Reptilian Conspiracy Information. It was all 10 employees.

Have you thought about the possibility of having an obsession with this stuff -which you probably had already before meeting any of them, and which probably came from your father's interest in UFOs- and that it have a lot to do with your behaviour towards anyone you meet; therefore making them think you are a freak (even if you're not) and find it amusing to play games on you and harass you?

No. I didn't believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters when I started working at the job. I still thought it was all disinformation. I was researching it and opening my mind to it, but I hadn't seen enough to fully be convinced. After the harassment picked up, I started to take the issue a little more seriously and push deeper into researching it. The harder I pushed myself to learn the information, the harder they pushed back at me with harassment.

They were warning me to stay away from the information.

I've spent a couple of hours reading your posts on this forum and on GLP, and it looks to me like you're just jumping to weird conclusions because you read/watched far too many stuff related to UFOs, illuminati, freemasonry, bloodcurdling rituals, kabbalah, 911, ETs, Russian mafia, time travel, magick, reptilians, and all the other conspiracy theories you mentioned.

Cool. No big deal. I can't get everyone to agree with me. It would be unrealistic to think that I could.

Plus, the fact that you admit many times being on drugs/alcohol, and that you wanted to start a TV programme and write a book isn't also doing any favour to your story: IMHO, you have all the tickets for a drug induced paranoia or simply for seeking attention. Though don't think you're necessarily lying to us; probably just exaggerating a bit ;).

LOL. Yeah, that's it. I'm seeking attention by promoting information that will get every normal person that hears it to think that I'm crazy. I love having people think that I'm crazy. It's so much fun. You should try it out. It's great. You're friends and family lose all respect for you. It's awesome getting this kind of attention.

Give me a break. You trolls are getting rusty.

flyermay
25-10-2009, 11:50 AM
LOL. :D The trolls are out in force today.

I'm not even going to pick that garbage apart. It's so obvious you and Quetzalcoatl are trolls.

Thanks for the 2 hours of entertainment. ;)

quetzalcoatl
25-10-2009, 11:55 AM
I left that job in May of 2008. I'm still in contact with Luke. I saw him 2 weeks ago. He is good friends with a person that I've known for 15 years. It's kind of hard to avoid contact with Luke.

Kool man! - so I take it Luke's not 'one of them'?? :D

Social Security numbers, bill payments, rent payments, roads, etc. are used to determine a person's location on the economic grid at any given time. The monetary system is used as a tracking grid.

In order to get a show on television I have to pay money and establish dates within which that show will be aired. It only cost me $150 a year to do this. I personally have come into contact with individuals that do this. The Illuminati has TIME TRAVEL technology that allows them to see into the future and the past.

Meaning they can see completed episodes, interviews with whitsleblowers, witnesses before those episodes are ever created. Getting a show on television and informing people of their existence is a threat to their species.

Are you familiar with people like Dan Burisch, David Wilcock, Alex Collier, etc. They all say these extra-terrestrials have time travel technology. I believe this technology is being used to track down humans that pose any kind of a threat to them. Not just me. Multiple individuals around the world.

Sounds like ya might be sitting on some 'volatile info' there?? Go on, whistle blow here! - promise they wont 'get ya'.. ;)


Why do you care whether or not I go over to her forum? I don't have time to juggle more than a few forums. It takes time to type information up. You act like I have all day to dedicate time towards this.

The idea with Gang Stalking is that the harassment can't be construed as being illegal. Nothing these individuals did was technically illegal. There would be no point in taking the issue up with lawyers. Not to mention, I don't have the money for that.

Oh Jeez.. :eek: as surprising as it may-be, I really couldn't care less where you do or do-not share your 'stories'.. Once again & hopefully the last; I just got the impression that your reasons sounded a bit strange - hence the cheeky questions.. ;)

The discussions tend to get long and drawn out. When I go from one forum to another I tend to lose my place. I'll forget what information I spoke about on each forum. It makes it hard to post new experiences.

Wouldn't worry about it too much. ;)


Yes. I think Zach sent his Mafia connected friend (Chris) to my job to re-establish contact with me. I think Zach was connected to the Mafia, as well. This is the entire point. 15 minutes after Zach told his brother to,"Beat the shit out of him(me)" I witnessed Zach's eyes shape shift. That was my first shape shift to ever witness. At a time, when I didn't really believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters. I had heard of them and read a little information on them, but I didn't fully believe in their existence.

This situation convinced me that Zach was a Reptilian Shape Shifter. After researching the subject for a few more months I, I started coming across shape shifter videos on the net. I have seen numerous videos that clearly represent what I saw in Zach's eyes that night. After seeing the video evidence, I knew that Zach had to be a Reptilian Shape Shifter.

I dunno man.. heard of stranger things.. - ya kno' das just how mates are sometimes - if this guy wasn't send to your work place (like you suspect & would be pretty weird) - it may be he was just asking after ya or something?? :confused: - like how you describe it:- mate of a mate sees ya @ your work, tells ya you should catch up sometime or something & suddenly it's some sort of "massive strategical conspiracy" to re-establish contact with some guy?? fuckin eh man! I do believe ya might 'have it' quite bad there.. :(

quetzalcoatl
25-10-2009, 11:58 AM
LOL. :D The trolls are out in force today.

I'm not even going to pick that garbage apart. It's so obvious you and Quetzalcoatl are trolls.

Oh man.. :(

Well I can see the force is strong with you! :rolleyes:

I'm pretty damn sure a lot of all this you bring upon yourself.. :(

dsl22
25-10-2009, 12:27 PM
Oh man.. :(

Well I can see the force is strong with you! :rolleyes:

I'm pretty damn sure a lot of all this you bring upon yourself.. :(

What do you think about David Icke and his information?

quetzalcoatl
25-10-2009, 01:00 PM
What do you think about David Icke and his information?

I think it has evolved a great deal over the years - I think he has perhaps been 'tainted' from time to time with dis-info / mis-info, yet in general it is quite concise & well re-searched. :)

Although much of it is far from being "original ideas" & he may have in-fact 'stepped over / on' a few people along the way - his Spiritual aspects / messages are pretty much what has to happen. ;)

I do also reckon there can be a bit of the old paranoia @ play @ times - where things are taken a bit too far.. yet it could just as easily be my ignorance. EG of this; I ain't quite convinced yet that the swine flu vaccine is designed purely for the purpose to wipe alot of us out.. (which isn't exactly wot he is proposing & is probably a poor example) I still kinda think their intentions might be rather honorable, yet all factors considered; as-in the evolving immune system being 'pharmaceutically weakened' - thru years of anti-biotic use, & the wrong allocation of resources (doughs in the temporary fix, not the cure sort of thing) - mostly orientated toward maximum profit, like the industrial military complex, divide & conquer mentality etc..

With his Reptilian thesis; I have @ times wondered how on earth could they have been painted as ALL pure evil; simply because it contridicts my own personal experiences so much - yet I think this has changed somewhat over the years?? :confused:

Over-all I JUST KNOW it is ill-formed or erroneous to simply blame everything on some manipulative force beyond our control - if there are pure evil dark ones; then there must be pure good light out there also, so it doesn't bother me one iota. ;)

Kinda blind sided me here - & my ass is gettin tired (so I hope it makes some sense) - then again I don't mind going troll! :D

dsl22
25-10-2009, 07:46 PM
I think it has evolved a great deal over the years - I think he has perhaps been 'tainted' from time to time with dis-info / mis-info, yet in general it is quite concise & well re-searched. :)

Although much of it is far from being "original ideas" & he may have in-fact 'stepped over / on' a few people along the way - his Spiritual aspects / messages are pretty much what has to happen. ;)

I do also reckon there can be a bit of the old paranoia @ play @ times - where things are taken a bit too far.. yet it could just as easily be my ignorance. EG of this; I ain't quite convinced yet that the swine flu vaccine is designed purely for the purpose to wipe alot of us out.. (which isn't exactly wot he is proposing & is probably a poor example) I still kinda think their intentions might be rather honorable, yet all factors considered; as-in the evolving immune system being 'pharmaceutically weakened' - thru years of anti-biotic use, & the wrong allocation of resources (doughs in the temporary fix, not the cure sort of thing) - mostly orientated toward maximum profit, like the industrial military complex, divide & conquer mentality etc..

With his Reptilian thesis; I have @ times wondered how on earth could they have been painted as ALL pure evil; simply because it contridicts my own personal experiences so much - yet I think this has changed somewhat over the years?? :confused:

Over-all I JUST KNOW it is ill-formed or erroneous to simply blame everything on some manipulative force beyond our control - if there are pure evil dark ones; then there must be pure good light out there also, so it doesn't bother me one iota. ;)

Kinda blind sided me here - & my ass is gettin tired (so I hope it makes some sense) - then again I don't mind going troll! :D

What are your personal experiences?

suicidal_martyr
25-10-2009, 07:51 PM
I believe you're telling the truth, but if I am wrong then I am wrong, who cares..there is a strange vibe to them just by seeing the pics. Even the one with the strange art work, did you see that website? www.brandywatson.com

Click on the images to open up a page for more of her work.

erthiz
25-10-2009, 08:28 PM
I believe you're telling the truth, but if I am wrong then I am wrong, who cares..there is a strange vibe to them just by seeing the pics. Even the one with the strange art work, did you see that website? www.brandywatson.com

Click on the images to open up a page for more of her work.


Her artwork is very strange, i dont like the ones with the cat/dog heads thats pretty wierd

suicidal_martyr
25-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Her artwork is very strange, i dont like the ones with the cat/dog heads thats pretty wierd

Very strange, and wtf is this?!?!?! http://www.brandywatson.com/2005/s5large.jpg I'd rather not say...LOL

suicidal_martyr
25-10-2009, 08:49 PM
Here is the Reptilian ultimate goal, they want all humans to look like this...

http://www.brandywatson.com/past%20work/s16large.jpg

dsl22
25-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Here is the Reptilian ultimate goal, they want all humans to look like this...

http://www.brandywatson.com/past%20work/s16large.jpg

:D Well, then they're succeeding.

suicidal_martyr
25-10-2009, 10:13 PM
:D Well, then they're succeeding.

Indeed, LMAO

quetzalcoatl
26-10-2009, 06:29 AM
What are your personal experiences?

Well shit coming to think of it I haven't really shared much @ all.. LOL! :D Knew I knew what Iz doing, somehow.. ;)

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65677

Next is not too much to do with Reptilians - yet I'm fairly sure these are possibly Pleiadian beings & are in contact with Church bodies globally..

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51380

Above I felt bad for smashing a friend & these guys come ask me what the problem is, when I'm sure they already know! - which doesn't bother me that much really.

There's a few others here & there, yet due to lies, hypocrisy & possibly mental illness I'm unable to link them.. happy searching! :)

I'm sure Reptilians are good. I know them & they know me.. everything they've told me has come true - couple of examples; a certain female will betray / try to hurt me (as well as other people) & when I FINALLY do anything about it, suddenly I'm the baddie?? Also, that I would be universally mis-understood. Besides, they must be good, since everyone hates them - & ya know what everyone is like! ;)

erthiz
26-10-2009, 01:03 PM
Very strange, and wtf is this?!?!?! http://www.brandywatson.com/2005/s5large.jpg I'd rather not say...LOL

Maybe thats what a Reptilian penis looks like....haha urgh! :D

1977
26-10-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm sure Reptilians are good. I know them & they know me.. everything they've told me has come true - couple of examples; a certain female will betray / try to hurt me (as well as other people) & when I FINALLY do anything about it, suddenly I'm the baddie?? Also, that I would be universally mis-understood. Besides, they must be good, since everyone hates them - & ya know what everyone is like! ;)
It seems we have a momentary respite from his œuvre. Sadly, 'twas too much Light to be borne by mere mortals.

alseepnomore
26-10-2009, 10:07 PM
Uh oh. Another TROLL

lol, one post doesnt make someone a troll- you might wanna look up what a troll actually is.

You posting pics of old friends and saying they're aliens shows just how disturbed you are.

dsl22
26-10-2009, 10:13 PM
Uh oh. Another TROLL

lol, one post doesnt make someone a troll- you might wanna look up what a troll actually is.

You posting pics of old friends and saying they're aliens shows just how disturbed you are.

Relax. It's just a joke.

What brings you to the forum? You're obviously not taking David Icke's info seriously. Otherwise, you would understand that my claims are least possible, if not true.

amabus
26-10-2009, 11:50 PM
Here is the Reptilian ultimate goal, they want all humans to look like this...

http://www.brandywatson.com/past%20work/s16large.jpg

Extra = surplus
E.T. - Extra-Terrestrial = surplus human
Diet
Di(e) E.T.

dsl22
02-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Nobody told me that some of the links weren't working. I'll have to go back and fix them. Sorry about that.

There is a problem, though. The system won't allow me to edit my old post. Can somebody help me with that so I can fix the links?

Thanks.

fafherd
04-11-2009, 03:21 AM
DSL22,

Recently read, "The Possessionand Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans", by Malachi Martin. Non-fiction. Interesting that Malachi notes that what often brings about possession, is dappling in Magick, yes with a 'K'.

Per the exorcism procedure, the Priest demands to know by the authority of Christ, "Who are you? What is your name, demon?" In one of the cases in Malachi's book, the answer came as, "We are many Species." Species?

The old man in the restaurant warned you of demonic possession. Did you sense that the staff in the Restaurant feared the Old Man?

I am trying to figure out: were these beings born reptilian, who then shapeshifted to human form? Or, were these beings manufactured reptilian/human hybrids, who then shapeshifted certain reptilian attributes? Or, were these beings originally human, consciousness subsequently supplanted, or possessed, by a reptilian species? What is your sense?

Malachi indicates that there are different kinds of possession. Malachi notes the worst kind, too far gone never coming back, as a characters like the "Son of Sam." Malachi was, unsolicited, invited out-of-the-blue by the "Son of Sam" to visit him in prison. Malachi assessed immediately...too far gone. That is how I would classify all of your acquaintances if they are truly into human blood. All, except Renee.

In Malachi's book, another case studi was a possession by a familiar spirit...slightly different. In this type, the spirit does not take you over, but is like an 'invisible friend'. The familiar will actually leave from time to time, especially when the familiar's victim is in the company of someone it can't tolerate: in the case studiy...the devout Priest; in your narratives...you? I notice when you met Renee one time she said she had to go find her magickal-self. When she was in your company, did she often lose her magickal-self?

Regards,
'Fafherd' up in Canada where I hope the Reptilians are repelled by the snow.

k4rma
04-11-2009, 03:08 PM
hey dls, saw u posted over at that "other" site that doesn't like drug references - i knew it would be a matter of hours before it was taken down. i am banned from there since june or so for defending myself against a personal attack on my beliefs, i have emailed staff numerous times with no response. i'm pretty much done with that site, this one is more open. not as much politics and advertisements and shit, plus u can cuss here and talk freely about ur experiences without leaving any detail out, i.e. the weed reference. and people's grammar and manners are much better here.

now back to ur story, i am from san marcos/wimberley area and have played shows in austin, lived there for awhile too around '98-2003 - austin is a weird place man, i actually think i know that homeless guitar dude ur talking about. personally i believe ur story, even tho it sounds far-fetched it is still believable. i have thought some of the same things about people i know here in town, or how certain people happen to show up in ur life for no apparent reason. for instance:

yesterday i shouted out in my head "SHOW YOURSELVES TO ME YOU REPTILIAN BASTERDS!!!!" then a few minutes later i rode my bike into town. this is where it gets weird: the first person who i saw on my way into town was this chic who i had relations with previously. we chatted for a second, she was waiting on her "dumb-ass bf" to come pick her up and he was late so she was walking.

background: due to our situations we couldn't be together, we were just fuckbuddies. she is from leander/cedar park originally and is also my age (33). she hooked up with this dude who i would swear is a fucking reptilian trying to stay in his skin. it's a small town, and me and this guy have hooked up with the same chics at the same time, and this time she chose him over me. he ended up assaulting her, she swore to me she wasn't going back and had no idea why she was with him. i gave her a choice, him or me, she said she would think on it.

during this time i had a new type of "guide" enter my head - it was this girl's deceased husband, he committed suicide for no apparent reason when she was 5mos preggo with their kid who is now nine. she told me how much i reminded her of him and that me and him would prolly have been great friends. he was constantly telling me to get her away from that guy by any means necessary, even going as far as telling me to tell her i am talking with him (her deceased husband). when i did this, it freaked her out. it was dark, we had been smoking and drinking and i swear her eyes shifted. not the first time she has exhibited strange behavior, but she immediately asked me how i could do that and what i knew. for the next 4 days, i would go over there and chill, she would interrogate me, then 15 minutes later that dude would show up - EVERY FUCKING TIME. the 4th nite he showed up minutes after i did, asked me to go out to his truck and talk to him, i made her go get me a shiner bock out of her fridge. she got it, i turned around and he was walking up. looked at the bottle, looked at me and said "nevermind we'll talk later." so i left. she is still with him, i saw him 2 days before running into her yesterday. he just parked next to me on tha beach and we started bullshitting as usual.

that's my story, reading urs made me realize partly what is going on - sorry if i jacked ur thread. i prolly should start my own thread about it, there are other people whose actions and appearance are suspect in my eyes - even my own, more on that later.

biblegirl
04-11-2009, 03:16 PM
that sounds like an interesting book fafherd

dsl22
05-11-2009, 06:45 AM
DSL22,

Recently read, "The Possessionand Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans", by Malachi Martin. Non-fiction. Interesting that Malachi notes that what often brings about possession, is dappling in Magick, yes with a 'K'.

Per the exorcism procedure, the Priest demands to know by the authority of Christ, "Who are you? What is your name, demon?" In one of the cases in Malachi's book, the answer came as, "We are many Species." Species?

The old man in the restaurant warned you of demonic possession. Did you sense that the staff in the Restaurant feared the Old Man?

That sounds like an interesting book. Yes, it did seem like they were afraid of the old man. Which was surprising, because customer service wasn't a high priority with these people. I constantly witnessed them tell off other customers and basically tell them to go screw themselves. None of them would mess with this guy, though.

I am trying to figure out: were these beings born reptilian, who then shapeshifted to human form? Or, were these beings manufactured reptilian/human hybrids, who then shapeshifted certain reptilian attributes? Or, were these beings originally human, consciousness subsequently supplanted, or possessed, by a reptilian species? What is your sense?

This is something I'm not sure about. For the most part, I got the impression that these were people who were possessed by Reptilian entities. I believe some of them were brought into the loop from the moment they were born. Due to the fact that their parents were involved. Others, I believe, were brought in later in life. Perhaps for genetic reasons.

Malachi indicates that there are different kinds of possession. Malachi notes the worst kind, too far gone never coming back, as a characters like the "Son of Sam." Malachi was, unsolicited, invited out-of-the-blue by the "Son of Sam" to visit him in prison. Malachi assessed immediately...too far gone. That is how I would classify all of your acquaintances if they are truly into human blood. All, except Renee.

That is the impression I got. Most of them were "too far gone." Renee was the only one that expressed any discontent for the situation. Everyone else seemed like they loved it. Renee wanted to be a NEWSCASTER on the local ABC News station. That was her overall goal. I believe that was her motivation for any involvement. Business connections.

Which would also lead me to believe that numerous other News Anchors and media personalities are involved. These people know about this demonic stuff. Even the media personalities on smaller News stations in smaller cities are involved. People have no idea how wide spread this shit really is. That's the whole point.

In Malachi's book, another case studi was a possession by a familiar spirit...slightly different. In this type, the spirit does not take you over, but is like an 'invisible friend'. The familiar will actually leave from time to time, especially when the familiar's victim is in the company of someone it can't tolerate: in the case studiy...the devout Priest; in your narratives...you? I notice when you met Renee one time she said she had to go find her magickal-self. When she was in your company, did she often lose her magickal-self?

That was the only time she ever mentioned needing to find "her magickal self." To this day, I still have no idea what she was talking about. It tripped me out when she said it.

I suspect she was referring to the fact that all of her brother's frat buddies were in that bar. By running in that circle of "Black Magicians," so to speak, she was developing a "magikal" identity. One that she would be walking away from, by coming to a different bar with me. Instead of going into the bar with them. That was my assessment of her statement, but I could be wrong.

Thanks for sharing the book. That sounds really interesting. I'll have to check that out.

fafherd
05-11-2009, 06:32 PM
DSL22,

The book name is actually..."Hostage to the Devil: The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans."

Malachi's Case Study #4, "Uncle Ponto and the Mushroom-Souper", strikes a chord with what you have indicated above. 'Uncle Ponto' was the familiar. Jamsie was the victim. Jamsie was a radio-announcer in San Francisco. His invisible friend assisted his talk show, telling Jamsie what to say. Malachi Martin recounts that the Exorcist who cast out Ponto, suspected that the Radio Station's Manager was possessed, not a familiar possession, a too-far-gone pssoession.

Regards,
Fafherd

arela
25-11-2009, 10:52 AM
I recently came across the Lacerta Files. Some parts of that "interview" (with a reptoid female) made sense although nothing could be proven or disproven at this stage. Certain points "she" made, impressed me.

a/
Question: You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Do you mean something like a "hollow Earth" with this? Is there a second sun inside our planet?

Answer: No, Earth is not really completely hollow and there is no second sun inside. This story is ridiculous and physically not possible (even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this.) Do you know how much mass a sun must have to produce energy and light for a longer time by fusion? Do you really think that there could be a small active sun inside the planet? When I talk about our subterranean home, I talk about large cave systems. The caves you have discovered near to the surface are tiny in comparison to real caves and huge caverns deeper in the earth (in a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 of your meters, but connected with many hidden tunnels to the surface or to surface-near caves) and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves. Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. If I talk about artificial sunlight in our cities I don’t mean a real sun but various technological sources of light (including gravitational sources) which illuminates the caverns and tunnels. There are special cave areas and tunnels with a strong UV light in every city and we use that places to heat our blood. Furthermore, we have also some surface sun places in remote areas, especially in America and Australia.


b/

Answer: First, my kind was of course seen and described (and worshipped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible. You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us for also in the southern part of the American continent on various temples. So-called "wise" men from India and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in writings, together with other "wise" men from the African continent. I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe beside the "Illojim") in your history. If you don’t believe me, have a look at your history and you will see the truth in my words. Your "great" scientists called the belief in us "superstition" and "religion" and today’s "intelligent" humans have forgotten our presence on the surface in the past.


and

c/

Question: When you read these religious and animosity-ridden comments here, what do you think and feel then? Is the relationship between your species and ours really shaped from that kind of total negation?

Answer: Does it amaze you that I am not completely angered by that? I had fully expected those kinds of extreme reactions. The programming for the utter negation of another species (especially the reptilian species) as in your own case is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses. This ancient conditioning stems from the days of your third artificial creation and, biologically speaking, is passed down as an information genome from generation to generation. The identification of my species with the powers of darkness was a primary intention of the Illojim, who liked seeing themselves in the role of the powers of light


You can read the whole "interview" here http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm


what's your take on this?

dsl22
25-11-2009, 09:04 PM
I recently came across the Lacerta Files. Some parts of that "interview" (with a reptoid female) made sense although nothing could be proven or disproven at this stage. Certain points "she" made, impressed me.

a/



b/




and

c/




You can read the whole "interview" here http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm


what's your take on this?

Thanks for sharing that link with everyone. I've actually already read that interview. It's very interesting. I recommend everyone check it out.

8 nephila 8
26-11-2009, 01:53 AM
That interview seems like a starting point for someones erotic fantasy role play. Seriously...who in there right mind once they had the honor of actually seeing a reptilian would ask a 7 foot + lizard about it's "equipment"? Also the "reptilian" contradicts itself in a few places. Saying that they have evolved to become mammalian and that's why she has breasts but then later saying "I'm no Mammalian".

It is a fun read though. If it were true though I would have tried to put a bug under the table so people could at least hear the interview.

arela
26-11-2009, 06:31 AM
The "sex" part didn't register in my mind that way. Or should I say, I didn't focus that much on that part of her...descriptions. If she is real, it might very well be the way she says it.

What buged me is one basic and really simple question he ... forgot (?) to ask her...which is, why the hell did they become subterranean cave dwellers when they love the sunlight so much, and why did they remain down there. Why not come up to the surface and claim what's theirs? Instead, they're hiding underground... A strong reptilian race, superior to our species in so many respects, (as she puts it), wouldn't be scared of stupid, artificially developed little humans now, would they? :P

Also, her anticlimactic spin about communicating with our politicians didn't sound right and I'm not buying it. If they are communicating, it's not at an "innocent" level at all.

There were some legitimate points made, but half truths if you ask me. Certainly not the whole picture.

dsl22
27-11-2009, 07:35 AM
Who knows whether or not it's real. If this "Lacerta" were the real deal, I highly doubt that all of the information would be accurate. Her information would likely be packed full of misleading disinformation.

8 nephila 8
27-11-2009, 12:54 PM
That's another thing. What purpose would she have to sit and talk to a human other than boredom and being misleading. If she was one of the good ones I find it even less likely that she would talk to a human in an interview meant for publishing. As she would probably want to be careful not to be found out. Humans aren't good at keeping secrets, we think we are but we're not.

open_minded_reptile_mammal
27-11-2009, 07:46 PM
For several years now, I've been living with a most horrid memory of seing a female turning into a robot in front of my eyes. Everyone ridicules me and asks "How u know it was a robot". Well let me turn the question around to you Reptile-Observers: "How do you know what you saw was something reptilian, what if what you saw was actually a transformation into robot-form, not reptilian". How I envy those who have witnessed this reptilian-thing, I would dearly like to be one of you, because no one takes my robotic observation seriously. That's why I wrote about poop-currency, because no one takes the robot question seriously, it seems. With all the talk about Verichip and company, it's actually much more reasonable to believe in shape-shift into robotic form, in my humble opinion.

dsl22
27-11-2009, 10:49 PM
For several years now, I've been living with a most horrid memory of seing a female turning into a robot in front of my eyes. Everyone ridicules me and asks "How u know it was a robot". Well let me turn the question around to you Reptile-Observers: "How do you know what you saw was something reptilian, what if what you saw was actually a transformation into robot-form, not reptilian". How I envy those who have witnessed this reptilian-thing, I would dearly like to be one of you, because no one takes my robotic observation seriously. That's why I wrote about poop-currency, because no one takes the robot question seriously, it seems. With all the talk about Verichip and company, it's actually much more reasonable to believe in shape-shift into robotic form, in my humble opinion.

Interesting. What were the circumstances when you witnessed this shape shift? When did this happen?

Many insiders have claimed that Greys are biological beings with computer chips implanted in their head. Barry King actually describes witnessing Greys at the Peasemore facility that were shut down and non active. Basically, he describe them as being some kind of droids that were turned off, at the time that he witnessed them. He said there was a room full of them that were lined up in a standing position, with their heads facing downwards. As if they were asleep. Only, they were turned off and non active. He said he actually picked one of them up.

Which would you somewhat line up with what you're saying about robots. Basically, Greys are robots. I'm curious to hear more about what you saw. What happened, exactly?

open_minded_reptile_mammal
27-11-2009, 11:12 PM
It was a female doctor in the 40ths. I've never experienced something like that. I've since read books about psychology an philosophy, yet never seen something like this. When I was a child I was afraid of reptiles and snake, but this robot did not make me afraid instinctually. Everyone wants me to answer the question when, who and where, Why is this? What is it that you want to know? No one questions the reptilian observers. I will not answer questions in detail to who this being was, because what I saw was real, and my life would be i jeopardy if I answered your questions in detail obviously. Either I'm insane and no robot exists, or I am sane, and if I am it would not be wise to pinpoint down my exact location. Obviously.

dsl22
28-11-2009, 12:13 AM
It was a female doctor in the 40ths.

Do you mean the 40s? That would mean that you're very old.

Everyone wants me to answer the question when, who and where, Why is this? What is it that you want to know?

Questions like that are necessary in order to fully understand your situation. People need details.

No one questions the reptilian observers. I will not answer questions in detail to who this being was, because what I saw was real, and my life would be i jeopardy if I answered your questions in detail obviously.

Lots of people question Reptilian observers. Many of those people are members of this forum. Not everyone here believes in Reptilian shape shifters.

No one questions the reptilian observers. I will not answer questions in detail to who this being was, because what I saw was real, and my life would be i jeopardy if I answered your questions in detail obviously. Either I'm insane and no robot exists, or I am sane, and if I am it would not be wise to pinpoint down my exact location. Obviously.

I don't think you're insane. I also don't think that you would be in danger for sharing your story in more detail. Just take a look at the information I've posted. I put up my first and last name, my location, and my picture. As well as a photo of 2 of the Reptilians I've been in contact with. I've also posted personal contact information for these people and myself. Nothing has happened to me, yet.

Here is their picture. Notice the snake tattoos on the girl on the right. I didn't just come here with a story. I posted evidence to back up my claims. That's why people take it a little more seriously. It's important to present evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's hard to get people to take you seriously.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=410114252&albumID=1292694&imageID=15752503

Not to mention, there are a lot of eye witness testimonies from numerous individuals around the world to support the testimony of Reptilian observers. Even with that, most people don't take it seriously. So, don't take it personally if people don't believe you. And, don't be worried about your safety. I'm sure you'll be fine if you share your story in more detail. I'm genuinely curious to hear more about it. However, I need more details as many other people do.

The concept of Robot shape shifters doesn't seem impossible at all. I would like to hear more.

onthefence123
28-11-2009, 08:29 AM
Folks, it's all fiction! Don't believe a word he writes. I'm 99% sure that he is a liar. Would you really want to read through any of his "stories" and investigate any of this cr@p based on a 1% chance that he is telling the truth? I sure as hell wouldn't! In fact, I stopped reading as soon as he stated that he was heavily into pot. That was the last strike. The first strike was when he said that his explanation was going to be complicated. Big mistake. BS always just seems to be complicated when in reality it isn't. You're a liar. Simple.

Why would take anything coming out of the military seriously?
Dude, why would anyone take YOU seriously? You sure put in the extra effort in trying to sound believable. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Move along!

But then again, you may get an ounce of (No, not that!) respect if you come clean and become an example for why people shouldn't read books by people like David Icke and all the other BS-ers out there. But that depends. Are you really willing to do the right thing after you've put in so much effort in the wrong thing?

Hey, has anyone verified any of this dude's so-called facts? (His name, location, IP number, etc...)


Kind regards,
Peter

arela
28-11-2009, 09:53 AM
Folks, it's all fiction! Don't believe a word he writes. I'm 99% sure that he is a liar. Would you really want to read through any of his "stories" and investigate any of this cr@p based on a 1% chance that he is telling the truth? I sure as hell wouldn't! In fact, I stopped reading as soon as he stated that he was heavily into pot. That was the last strike. The first strike was when he said that his explanation was going to be complicated. Big mistake. BS always just seems to be complicated when in reality it isn't. You're a liar. Simple.


Dude, why would anyone take YOU seriously? You sure put in the extra effort in trying to sound believable. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Move along!

But then again, you may get an ounce of (No, not that!) respect if you come clean and become an example for why people shouldn't read books by people like David Icke and all the other BS-ers out there. But that depends. Are you really willing to do the right thing after you've put in so much effort in the wrong thing?

Hey, has anyone verified any of this dude's so-called facts? (His name, location, IP number, etc...)


Kind regards,
Peter

It is ofcourse your prerogative not to accept or believe anything dsl22 says, but you have no right to bash or insult people because you "don't buy" their story.
You mentioned something about "respect" and that's where I come in, because you bugged the hell out of my nerves when you of all people (with a totally disrespectful approach) prompt others to respect!

You see, I have a thing about respect, as it is so misinterpreted and misused...

Respect doesn't go hand in hand with acceptance. Respecting what you can accept is easy. Respecting what you can't/won't accept is the challenge, and that's what will distinguish you from a common barbarian.

You can express your disagreement in a polite, respectful and civil manner, and if you can't, I suggest you get the hell out of this topic. It shouldn't be of interest to you anyway.

Kind regards to you too
Vicky

flyermay
28-11-2009, 10:54 AM
I don't think you are delusional or paranoid any more, you are simply making things up along the way...

They made direct references to the information. Blood drinking, cannibalism, child mutilation, the emphasis on Caucasian people (genetics.) Arwyn actually drew a picture on one of the illustrations I've seen on multiple Reptilian conspiracy sites. An illustration that was drawn by an eyewitness. Underneath the illustration there was a message that said," And this will show up....." She actually waved it in my face one day as I came into work.

The illustration Arwyn drew looked exactly like this. It was a blatant reference to information found on these types conspiracy websites.

http://www.ivantic.net/Dejvid%20Ajk%20i%20zavere/reptoidi/Tailess-Reptoid_4web.jpg

Yup. The only one I ever saw shape shift at that job was Arwyn (for obvious reasons.) I would constantly see her eyes change from brown to pitch black. In situations when we were face to face. There is actually a video out there with David Icke discussing how he saw Ted Heath shape shift with black eyes. Many people have reported black eyes in individuals that they suspect to be Reptilians shape shifters.

... Like this part. You never said in your original story that Arwyn shape-shifted, nor that she draws reptilians in her spear time; though it's far more significant than simply saying she makes jokes about drinking blood.

Arwyn told me one time," I know what you do at night." I replied," What, get high and jerk off?" She looked at me with a very serious look on her face and said, " No. I'm talking about the other things." I knew she was referring to my research. I simply replied," So, what are you going to do about it?" I was always on the net researching (not discussing) this Reptilian stuff late at night. There was no information posted for her to Google and find. I still had not posted anything regarding this subject, at the time. There was no way for her to know about that without telepathy.

Another bit that you didn't include in your original story, though it is also more significant than simply saying "I know she reads my mind".

Nope. Here is the strange thing about that situation. My friend who witnessed that shape shift is named "Curtis." His brother,"Brandon" was there to witness the situation. Brandon has researched Reptilian Conspiracy Theories and is open minded to the situation. Curtis thinks we are nuts. Yet, Curtis was the person that witnessed the shape shift. The problem is, Brandon and I remember the situation vividly. When we asked Curtis about the incident, Curtis told us that he can't remember anything that happened. He has no clue what Brandon and I are talking about. Neither does the girl. It was as if something was screwing around with Brandon and me. Because we took the information seriously.

I bet Curtis is quite a joker, especially when he's high.

No. It is strange that all 10 employees had superior knowledge on the subject to myself. Arwyn wasn't the only person at the job making references to Reptilian Conspiracy Information. It was all 10 employees.

And why would you think that 10 multi-dimensional reptilian beings would take over a pizza shop?... Please don't tell me it's to spy on you, because one would be enough for that task -since they can read your mind-.

No. I didn't believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters when I started working at the job. I still thought it was all disinformation. I was researching it and opening my mind to it, but I hadn't seen enough to fully be convinced. After the harassment picked up, I started to take the issue a little more seriously and push deeper into researching it. The harder I pushed myself to learn the information, the harder they pushed back at me with harassment.

That's a lie! You clearly said that way before even working in that shop you saw Zack shape-shift.

LOL. Yeah, that's it. I'm seeking attention by promoting information that will get every normal person that hears it to think that I'm crazy. I love having people think that I'm crazy. It's so much fun. You should try it out. It's great. You're friends and family lose all respect for you. It's awesome getting this kind of attention.

Give me a break. You trolls are getting rusty.

Yes, I guess that your plan to present a TV show and write a book is proof enough that you worry about your image and you do not seek any attention. ;)

apricot
28-11-2009, 12:53 PM
I've been in a fever all this week cramming in the information on David Icke's site. My mind has been stretched and boggled and I've been shaken to my very foundations...and yet I've believed everything I've read. Because it's been presented to me in such a way that I can only shake my head in awe and say, 'yes, that's right - I can see it now.'
But, I'm relieved to say, that after this week of fervent reading my mind hasn't lost its faculties. Because this story just smacked of bogus right from the start. I'm pleased it's been posted though because it at least proves to me I can judge the difference between real and invention.
No offence of course - you're a good story teller and like any good story teller I think that for you it's not invention and you really do believe in the characters and situations you created. Good luck with your book!:)

flyermay
28-11-2009, 01:10 PM
The truth is, I honestly do not know if shape-shifting reptilians relly exist or not; I don't have enough evidence either way, so I prefer to keep an open mind about it. I'm just saying that our friend's story has too many flaws for me to believe it.

onthefence123
29-11-2009, 05:11 AM
It is of course your prerogative not to accept or believe anything dsl22 says, but you have no right to bash or insult people because you "don't buy" their story.
I am neither bashing nor am I insulting anyone. If I call a liar that which he is then I am only doing so out of kindness for the greater good. I agree that people should be free to exam info as it is. I have no problems with this and neither do I have a problem with people posting their 'accurate' experiences. A line is crossed (as was on this thread) when the info is manipulated in such a way so that it points to a lie. Disinfo at its best.
You mentioned something about "respect" and that's where I come in, because you bugged the hell out of my nerves when you of all people (with a totally disrespectful approach) prompt others to respect!
I think our interpretation of the word 'respect' differs. Think about it. Is it really respectful to let people delude themselves? Perhaps you don't care because you take pleasure in the fact that others are deluding themselves and you not being one of them? What else could it be? Maybe you have been taken in by this liar and others like him and that is why you are so quick to defend him? In that case, I am only trying to help you see the facts for what they are.
You see, I have a thing about respect, as it is so misinterpreted and misused...
I also think so. Especially in your case. No offense.
Respect doesn't go hand in hand with acceptance.
Did I say it does? No.
Respecting what you can accept is easy.
I have accepted that there are many nasty people in this world. Do I respect their ways? Certainly not.
Respecting what you can't/won't accept is the challenge, and that's what will distinguish you from a common barbarian.
What about the fact that I occasionally eat with utensils? Does that count?
It shouldn't be of interest to you anyway.
Do you not treat me as an equal?


Kind regards,
Peter

dsl22
29-11-2009, 05:58 AM
I don't think you are delusional or paranoid any more, you are simply making things up along the way...



... Like this part. You never said in your original story that Arwyn shape-shifted, nor that she draws reptilians in her spear time; though it's far more significant than simply saying she makes jokes about drinking blood.

There are numerous experiences and occurrences that I failed to mention in my original posting of the story. Go look on GLP. There are dozens of occurrences ,such as this, that took place, that I originally failed to mention. It doesn't have anything to do with "making it up."

When you have experienced as much bizarre shit as this, it isn't easy to recall everything in one sitting. I would have to sit down for months and compile everything into one presentation. This is a ruff draft of sorts. It's an internet forum. Not a final copy. What you have read here was written in a matter of hours. It's a summarized version of the events that I copy pasted from my original posting on GLP. Therefore, much of the experiences were left out. I'm not making anything up here. There are numerous times where I have read through my story and said to myself," Damn, I left a lot out." Not on purpose, but because of the sheer volume of the experiences.

To be honest with you, it kind of pisses me off that you're suggesting that making this up at all. I would rather you say that I'm crazy. That would be understandable. However, you claiming that I'm "making this up" is entirely out of line.

Call me crazy all you want, but don't label me liar based on your own convoluted analysis . Okay?




Another bit that you didn't include in your original story, though it is also more significant than simply saying "I know she reads my mind".

Yeah, there were numerous other experiences like this that I didn't mention either in my original posting. As mentioned in the above statement. What is your point?



I bet Curtis is quite a joker, especially when he's high.

I hope Curtis was joking. However, to this day, he refuses to admit it. In fact, he won't even admit to making the statement, in the first place. He has absolutely no recollection of making the statement. Would you like to speak to Curtis yourself and ask him if he was joking? I can provide contact information. He will tell you the same thing I'm telling you here. He has no recollection of his bizarre statements and behavior. Brandon and I remember the entire situation vividly. Brandon doesn't believe that he was joking around either.





And why would you think that 10 multi-dimensional reptilian beings would take over a pizza shop?... Please don't tell me it's to spy on you, because one would be enough for that task -since they can read your mind-.

Spy on me? No, it has to do with harassing me. That is how Gang Stalking works. Have you ever researched Nazi style Gang Stalking tactics? During WWII, the Gestapo would implant undercover agents into the work place and personal life of political activist and radio personalities that were against the Nazi party. My situation fits this description perfectly. Being that I was planning on getting a television show criticizing the powers that be.

Read these excerpts from this website. I recommend you read the entire article. It fits my situation perfectly. The difference is that my situation involves extra-dimensional entities that possess the ability to look like humans.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/GSFAQ.html

"Gang Stalking is also systemic form of control, which seeks to control every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Gang Stalking has many similarities to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because the target is followed around and placed under intrusive and directed surveillance by groups of organised "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" also known as Citizen Informants 24/7. Using anti-terror laws to spy on ordinary people."


"What happens during this Gang Stalking surveillance is very similar to what happened to many innocent individuals in the former East Germany or Activists and Dissidents in Russia. Many innocent people in the former East Germany would be targeted for these harassment programs, and then their friends, family, and the community at large would be used to monitor, prosecute, and harass them. In Russia it was used by the state to declare activist, dissidents or anyone they thought to be an enemy of the state as mentally unfit and many were institutionalised using this form of systemic control."


It doesn't have anything to do with covert spy work. It has to do with highly organized harassment tactics. If they were spying on me, they wouldn't put an agent on me with snake tattoos, snake earrings, snake sunglasses, and a snake purse. They would remain anonymous and unnoticed.

They wanted me to know what they were.



That's a lie! You clearly said that way before even working in that shop you saw Zack shape-shift.

What the are you talking about? That isn't a lie at all. I didn't believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters at the time that I witnessed his eyes shape shift. That's why the experience was so significant. Because, there were no preconceived notions and beliefs to influence what I witnessed. I witnessed a shape shift before ever believing the existence of shape shifters. That is the significance.

If I did believe in Reptilian Shape Shifters during that encounter, it would damage the credibility of the experience. People could just say," You saw what you wanted to see." They can't say that now, can they? Because it's the real deal.




Yes, I guess that your plan to present a TV show and write a book is proof enough that you worry about your image and you do not seek any attention. ;)

That's "PREVIOUS" plans to present a TV show and write a book. I have no future intention of doing either, as a result of their harassment. It wouldn't accomplish anything. Other than having people slander my family and me. Which isn't something I'm enthusiastic about doing.

The concept of getting TV and writing a book dealt with me feeling like I had an obligatory responsibility to share the information. In order to validate the information that people like Phil Schneider, Ron Rummel, and Dean Warwick gave their lives to share.

It doesn't have anything to do with me. It has to with the fact that people are literally dying over this issue. Get the point?

Why would anyone promote this kind of information for attention? The attention you get is slander and criticism. Not to mention, harassment from the PTB.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 06:17 AM
Hey, has anyone verified any of this dude's so-called facts? (His name, location, IP number, etc...)



Yup. Here is my facebook page. Send me an invite. Then go send all of the people that I mentioned in my story an invite.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1444299885

I've provided contact information for every single person mentioned in my story. However, you didn't realize this because you "stopped reading as soon as he stated that he (I) was heavily into pot." I wish I was as astute as you. Where did you learn how to do research? From watching television? Not every piece of information comes in the form of a 10 minute News segment, or a short radio bit. You're going to have to read a lot more to understand where I'm coming from. For that matter, your going to have to do a lot more research on the subject of Reptilian Shape Shifters before understanding where anyone ,that promotes this kind of information, is coming from. It's called "RESEARCH." Try it out.

If you're not willing to read more than don't bother offering your ignorant opinion. There is a reason this thread has 5 stars. It's because the experiences are real. People can see that. You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.

Why would I post contact information for the people I'm "lying" about? That doesn't make any sense at all. Typically, people who lie try to hide damning information. I have openly providing their contact information so that you could verify whether or not I'm telling the truth about them. That isn't the behavior of a "liar." Not by a long shot. It's the opposite.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 06:24 AM
I've been in a fever all this week cramming in the information on David Icke's site. My mind has been stretched and boggled and I've been shaken to my very foundations...and yet I've believed everything I've read. Because it's been presented to me in such a way that I can only shake my head in awe and say, 'yes, that's right - I can see it now.'
But, I'm relieved to say, that after this week of fervent reading my mind hasn't lost its faculties. Because this story just smacked of bogus right from the start. I'm pleased it's been posted though because it at least proves to me I can judge the difference between real and invention.
No offence of course - you're a good story teller and like any good story teller I think that for you it's not invention and you really do believe in the characters and situations you created. Good luck with your book!:)

What book? I'm not writing any book. I have absolutely no intention of writing any book. That's why I'm here sharing the information for FREE. I don't even see any purpose to writing a book, at this point. You can do so much with the internet. Here, I can post links to illustrate my point. I can show videos and pictures that back up my claims.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 06:30 AM
The truth is, I honestly do not know if shape-shifting reptilians relly exist or not; I don't have enough evidence either way, so I prefer to keep an open mind about it. I'm just saying that our friend's story has too many flaws for me to believe it.

What "flaws" are you referring to? You haven't pointed out any flaws from what I've seen. You've mentioned a lot of misinterpretations that are based on your own biased opinions. However, you haven't mentioned one flaw in the story.

Could you point some out please?

eshtar
29-11-2009, 08:31 AM
I hate to ask this but.. WHY are you posting PERSONAL contact info on your sites of other people who trusted you with their personal info? I just don't understand it. I sure will never talk to you and give out my personal imformation.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 09:45 AM
I hate to ask this but.. WHY are you posting PERSONAL contact info on your sites of other people who trusted you with their personal info? I just don't understand it. I sure will never talk to you and give out my personal imformation.

That is a good question.

This is why:

One day I came into work and another employee (whom I have yet to mention) asked me to cover a shift. Here name is "Honey." She wanted me to cover her shift on a Saturday. Honey told me that she was going to work at a local BLOOD DRIVE that was run by a local radio station called 101.5 X FM. The biggest radio station in Austin. This was on Wednesday.

I came into work on that Friday and was expecting to get my paycheck. My paycheck was nowhere to be found. There was a message on the dry erase board that said," David. Thank you for your donation." I didn't understand what this meant, but my paycheck was missing. Later that night, Brandy Brandy (redhead with 2 LIZARD TATTOOS on her right ankle) approaches me and says "So, I heard you made a donation to the 101.5 X BLOOD DRIVE. They mentioned your name on the radio earlier. People heard it." I replied," No, that is bullshit. I didn't make any donation. What the fuck are you talking about?" Patrick said," Well, maybe it was your doppelganger or something."

About 10 minutes later, Patrick was leaving for the night and said," Hey Brandy, walk me out to my car." Brandy came walking back into the restaurant and walked over to me. She looked me in the eye with a very serious look on her face and said,"You better be careful." I said," Why?" She wouldn't give a straight answer. Arwyn (girl with SNAKE TATTOOS) was standing right next to her and bumped into Brandy with her hip. Almost like Arwyn was trying to tell Brandy to "be nice." Brandy just replied by saying," Cuz Arwyn and I are playing bumper cars." The strange thing is, Arwyn had brought a DVD box set of the X-Files television show. This was sitting on the counter right next to Brandy and Arwyn as this conversation took place.

So, basically these "people"(if you insist on calling them that) took my paycheck and donated it to a BLOOD DRIVE. They announced my first and last name on the biggest radio station in Austin, TX. They had the connections to make this happen. Patrick is the lead singer of a band in Austin called The Gentleman's Social Club (reference to Freemasons.)

Here is a clip of Patrick's band.

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

Patrick openly stated to me that he has friends who are DJs at 101.5 X FM. That is how they were able to get them to say my name on the radio for making a donation to a BLOOD DRIVE. He is friends with all the goddamn DJs. Get the point? They said my first and last name on a fucking radio station. For making a donation to a fucking BLOOD DRIVE. Then they proceeded to basically threaten me when Brandy told me to "be careful."

So, I decided that I have no problem with posting their personal contact information. If they are going to screw with my finances, announce my name on the radio, and threaten me to my face; I'm going to post their personal contact information on every forum that I can. I have every right to do so. Get the point?

Here is a video clip of this girl Honey. She is on the local Roller Derby team, here in Austin. While I was working with her, ESPN 2 actually did a documentary on Honey and the rest of the Derby team. ESPN 2 sent a film crew to my job to get some shots of Honey while she worked.

Here is the video clip from ESPN 2. Honey is the girl at 2:01 in this video clip. Her Roller Derby name is "Honey Homicide." She wears a green dress and has graphics of BLOOD on the back of her uniform.

Roller Revival on ESPN Sportscenter - YouTube

I later confronted Honey about donating my paycheck to the BLOOD DRIVE. When I did, she mysteriously acted like she had no idea what I was talking about. She just grinned and said," What blood drive?" Are you getting the point here?

People that I'm accusing of being Reptilian Shape Shifters ( who allegedly drink BLOOD) took my paycheck and donated it to a BLOOD DRIVE. Then proceeded to announce my first and last name on the biggest radio station in Austin, TX. As well as, threaten me to my face. So, I have no problem posting their personal contact information on every conspiracy forum that I come across. Don't get me wrong. I know it's rude, to say the least. However, under these circumstances I feel that posting there personal information is the only peaceful manner that I have to fight back with. Communication is the only weapon I need.

It is my only way of fighting back against the harassment. It's not as if I can go to the police with these types of claims. They would likely try to have me committed. So, I post their personal information to show them that 2 can play at this game. They announce my name on the radio. I announce their name on conspiracy forums.

Got it? Good.

eshtar
29-11-2009, 11:20 AM
So? Thats NO REASON to go and give out peoples personal imformation. Jeeze. I'd donate to a Blood drive to yes they should have asked first but thats no excuse to go and post on the Internet 2 females personal imformation so cooks and rapists can go stalking. Are you damned crazy? Just because 2 females have snake tattoes or lizards and you think you saw eye slits does not give you the right to go posting where they live and their names all over face book and the internet in general. No matter WHAT they are. That is rude and just out right wrong. if they found out they would have all the right to be mad and damand legal action I would to in a heart beat. And btw I always wanted a snake tatoo and so what if they makes me all evil now. and ooooo they announced your name because money was givin to a blood drive where people need blood trancefusions. Is that so bad enough where you post everywhere peoples addresses and locations all over the web? umm no. yes what they did was probibly a mistake but I'd not go posting what you are 2 wrongs don't make a right. And ya you could go to the cops just not mention the what you think is reptillian part. Still stop darn posting addresses and names god.

onthefence123
29-11-2009, 01:05 PM
Send me an invite. Then go send all of the people that I mentioned in my story an invite.
Don't be silly. What could I possibly accomplish by chatting with a liar and the company he keeps? This is a game to you. You could be getting payed for all I know. I can't be sure about somethings but I can be sure of one thing. You lie.
I've provided contact information for every single person mentioned in my story. However, you didn't realize this because you "stopped reading as soon as he stated that he (I) was heavily into pot." I wish I was as astute as you. Where did you learn how to do research? From watching television? Not every piece of information comes in the form of a 10 minute News segment, or a short radio bit. You're going to have to read a lot more to understand where I'm coming from. For that matter, your going to have to do a lot more research on the subject of Reptilian Shape Shifters before understanding where anyone ,that promotes this kind of information, is coming from. It's called "RESEARCH." Try it out.
Let me explain something to you. You're thread wreaks of BS. That isn't my fault. It's yours.
There is a reason this thread has 5 stars. It's because the experiences are real. People can see that. You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.

You think the reason this thread has five stars is because your experiences are real? Genius reasoning! First of all, who here has actually bothered to prove to themselves that your experiences are indeed real? How would that be possible? Any ideas? It would be a reptilian-nut's wet dream to meet real life evidence. Good luck.

The reason this thread is so highly ranked is because this is a David Icke fan site and you are their proof. That's it. That's all.
You, on the other hand, stopped reading after the first page.
If I went on and on about being the reincarnation of Christ with proof akin to "birthmark in the shape of a crucifix" and "hearing the voice of God" would you really want to continue reading? Of course not. Your evidence was no better.
Why would I post contact information for the people I'm "lying" about? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Actually, if you were honest then you'd see how it makes perfect sense. You might as well go as far as possible since you've come this far. Without any backing you knew that most people would find your experiences hard to believe so you decided to step it up a notch and provide contact info. Contact info and synchronicity.

Nice try.


Kind regards,
Peter

eshtar
29-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Now I do not at all like attacking people and what i am stating is no attack. it is just whats setting me off is the posting info on forums and other web pages Personal Imfo and contacts included pics and addresses. That right there setts me off and makes me not want to trust someone who does that. These females may NOT even be reptilian na dmay be just screwing with your head down to being bitches sometimes. (no offence) I am female myself I know lol what it is like. They know what your into and some people have a knack for screwing and playing with heads. That does not make them reptilian in the least. It just sets up a very utrustworthy radar and red flag on the most part. If they want to go posting their pics on web pages thats their choice not yours and no one elses. but you have no right to go posting their personal adresses, names and such where any rapist and wack job can find em and it could be murder. And you know what? YOUR the blame for it. I should the heck would be angry if I trusted you enough after so long and told you where I live for example, then one day your on here accusing me of things then posting my home address? umm ya red flag. And there are humans who have reptile tattooes including dragon and snake tattooes I see them on people where I work at a food mark and trust me they are not some illuminati person. Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it) It still does not make it right for you to do this. Now this will be the last time I post on this matter. I said my 2 cents worth.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 05:39 PM
So? Thats NO REASON to go and give out peoples personal imformation. Jeeze. I'd donate to a Blood drive to yes they should have asked first but thats no excuse to go and post on the Internet 2 females personal imformation so cooks and rapists can go stalking. Are you damned crazy? Just because 2 females have snake tattoes or lizards and you think you saw eye slits does not give you the right to go posting where they live and their names all over face book and the internet in general. No matter WHAT they are. That is rude and just out right wrong. if they found out they would have all the right to be mad and damand legal action I would to in a heart beat. And btw I always wanted a snake tatoo and so what if they makes me all evil now. and ooooo they announced your name because money was givin to a blood drive where people need blood trancefusions. Is that so bad enough where you post everywhere peoples addresses and locations all over the web? umm no. yes what they did was probibly a mistake but I'd not go posting what you are 2 wrongs don't make a right. And ya you could go to the cops just not mention the what you think is reptillian part. Still stop darn posting addresses and names god.

What?! Are you serious? Posting names and information isn't anywhere near as bad as fucking with a person's finances. I had 2 checks bounce as a result of not getting that paycheck. That's a serious problem for anyone. Hell, I would say it's actually illegal to do that.

Nobody is going to "stalk and rape" them. Give me a break. Nobody goes after Bush and Obama. Why would they take the time to go after these 2 insignificant individuals? You're not making any sense at all. If they announce my name on the radio and screw with my finances, I have every right to do so.

Facebook is public information. They shouldn't be on facebook if they don't want strangers looking at their profile. I have done absolutely nothing wrong here.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Don't be silly. What could I possibly accomplish by chatting with a liar and the company he keeps? This is a game to you. You could be getting payed for all I know. I can't be sure about somethings but I can be sure of one thing. You lie.

What am I lying about Peter? You can't point out one thing that I've lied about. You can only make groundless accusations that I'm lying. If you were really going to prove me wrong you would go talk to these people and try to obtain evidence to prove me wrong.

Let me explain something to you. You're thread wreaks of BS. That isn't my fault. It's yours.

You think the reason this thread has five stars is because your experiences are real? Genius reasoning! First of all, who here has actually bothered to prove to themselves that your experiences are indeed real? How would that be possible? Any ideas? It would be a reptilian-nut's wet dream to meet real life evidence. Good luck.

Why are you on this forum Peter? You obviously haven't done any research into this subject. You probably heard about Reptilians 2 weeks ago and think the entire subject is bogus. Not just my thread.

I did too, for the first year and half. I thought information pertaining to Reptilians was disinformation. My personal experiences showed me that it was 100 % real. I didn't just start believing this subject on the spot. This is an issue where "seeing is believing." After what I've seen, there is no turning back.

The reason this thread is so highly ranked is because this is a David Icke fan site and you are their proof. That's it. That's all.

Now your insulting everyone on the forum. Give me a break. Go do some RESEARCH Peter. Stop drawing ignorant conclusions and insulting people.

If I went on and on about being the reincarnation of Christ with proof akin to "birthmark in the shape of a crucifix" and "hearing the voice of God" would you really want to continue reading? Of course not. Your evidence was no better.

What?! That's a horrible comparison. According to you, the evidence is no better. However, you haven't done any research into this subject. Why would you take the information seriously? It's completely foreign to everything else you've seen in your lifetime.

The experiences I've had line up with the information presented by researchers on the subject. It's impossible for you to realize this because you haven't spent more than 5 minutes looking at the information. Clearly.

Actually, if you were honest then you'd see how it makes perfect sense. You might as well go as far as possible since you've come this far. Without any backing you knew that most people would find your experiences hard to believe so you decided to step it up a notch and provide contact info. Contact info and synchronicity.

Are you kidding me? If there was no contact info in general, the counter argument against me would be far stronger than it is now. With contact info provided, viewers can see that these are real individuals that I've discussed. Not products of my imagination.

"Without any backing." Are you claiming these people are helping my lie or something? This is getting ridiculous. Numerous people on multiple forums have spoken to these people and confirmed their existence. If you choose not to, that's fine with me. Just stop insulting everyone on this forum because you choose to remain in a state of denial.

dsl22
29-11-2009, 06:28 PM
Now I do not at all like attacking people and what i am stating is no attack. it is just whats setting me off is the posting info on forums and other web pages Personal Imfo and contacts included pics and addresses.

I haven't posted any addresses. I've simply stated that they live in Austin. It's not like I've posted their home address. Calm down.


That right there setts me off and makes me not want to trust someone who does that. These females may NOT even be reptilian na dmay be just screwing with your head down to being bitches sometimes. (no offence)

That's not possible. "Screwing with head" doesn't explain the situation at all. It's in no way, a plausible explanation. If it were, I wouldn't be here right now.

I never once mentioned an interest in this subject. That's the reason I freaked about their harassment, in the first place. If I had openly stated to these people that I was interested in the subject of Reptilians, then that would be a plausible explanation. However, I was researching this subject in the privacy of my own home. It was literally impossible for them to discover my interest in these subjects.

If I had said something to them about it, then obviously they would just be giving me a hard time. However, I didn't. I didn't mention one word about it. They just started making refernces to blood drinking and cannibalism all on their own.


I am female myself I know lol what it is like. They know what your into and some people have a knack for screwing and playing with heads.

No, they didn't know what I was into. That's the entire point. They knew I was interested in this subject without me mentioning a single word about it. How is this possible? I have yet to receive any kind of a plausible explanation from skeptics like you. You simply draw your own conclusions without acknowledging the facts surrounding the situation.

If they want to go posting their pics on web pages thats their choice not yours and no one elses.

If I want to take my paycheck and donate it do a blood drive, that's my choice and my choice alone. Not theirs. Where do you get off sticking up for their actions.


but you have no right to go posting their personal adresses, names and such where any rapist and wack job can find em and it could be murder.

So, are you saying they have a right to screw with my finances and announce my name on the biggest radio station in Austin? Interesting logic. If they donate my paycheck to a blood drive and announce my name on the radio, then I have every right to retaliate and post their information on forums.

Again, I never posted their addresses. Please stop taking my post out of context. It's getting really annoying.



And you know what? YOUR the blame for it.

What are talking about, hun? What am I to blame for. Their actions. Um, yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with you their. I never did anything to provoke these people to donate my paycheck to a blood drive.

I can't believe your even trying to justify their actions. You don't screw with people's money. It's highly illegal for them to tamper with my finances. If anyone is to blame for the other's actions, it's them. Not me.

I should the heck would be angry if I trusted you enough after so long and told you where I live for example, then one day your on here accusing me of things then posting my home address? umm ya red flag.

Can you provide one example of me posting their home addresses? I don't even know their home addresses moron. I never mentioned their home addresses once. Posting a link to their facebook pages doesn't qualify. Please stop taking my post out of context. It's getting really annoying.

And there are humans who have reptile tattooes including dragon and snake tattooes I see them on people where I work at a food mark and trust me they are not some illuminati person.

What is your point? Do these people make dozens of references to blood drinking and cannibalism? If they don't, I wouldn't accuse them of being Reptilians Shape Shifters at all. They have to do something along those lines before I would start accusing them of that.

The tattoos are not the only reason I've made these accusations against them. It's their statements and actions, combined with the tattoos that lead me to conclude that they aren't human. You seem to be having trouble understanding this.

Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it) It still does not make it right for you to do this. Now this will be the last time I post on this matter. I said my 2 cents worth.

Yup you said your 2 cents worth. And, that's about all it's worth. How can you justify screwing with a person's finances like that? I'm pretty sure what they did is highly illegal by any countries standards. You can't just take a person's paycheck and donate it to a blood drive. I don't care where you live sweetheart, that's highly illegal. If I had any documented proof of this action I would have gone to the police and had these people arrested.

I guarantee you no judge in this country would take legal action for posting facebook links. In fact, I would be willing to bet that a judge would laugh his ass off if you tried to take my posting of their facebook pages into a courtroom.

Give me a break lady.

arela
29-11-2009, 11:19 PM
I am neither bashing nor am I insulting anyone.

Really? I think you should go back a few pages and re-read your post.

If I call a liar that which he is then I am only doing so out of kindness for the greater good.

Let's get one thing straight. I didn't critisize your position on the matter, nor your intention. I was bothered by the way you phrased it.


I agree that people should be free to exam info as it is. I have no problems with this and neither do I have a problem with people posting their 'accurate' experiences.

Well la dee da, at least we agree on that one.


A line is crossed (as was on this thread) when the info is manipulated in such a way so that it points to a lie. Disinfo at its best.


I wouldn't disagree with you on the line crossing either. But disinfo wasn't as bad to my mind as other ..discrepancies. Like exposing certain things he shouldn't have...
(I agree with esthar on that one)



I think our interpretation of the word 'respect' differs. Think about it. Is it really respectful to let people delude themselves?

a/ Our different interpretation of "respect" is right! I suggest you read some Plato (especially his writings on Socrates), on your spare time.

b/ letting or not letting people delude themselves, has little to do with respect. What are you? A mind policeman- assuming the role of "letting" or not "letting" people think this or that? Respect has to do with the way one approaches their fellow man and is (or isn't) intergrated in their behaviour and values.



Perhaps you don't care because you take pleasure in the fact that others are deluding themselves and you not being one of them?

Have you ever considered the possibility that your assumptions and biased, unfounded and quickie " conclusions" about people you don't even know, are way of base?



What else could it be?

What else I wonder...


Maybe you have been taken in by this liar and others like him and that is why you are so quick to defend him?

What you ddn't get (due to superficial thought process) is the fact that I wasn't defending any one in particular, only my principle. In other words, its the principle of the thing. An the principle of the thing here..had to do with... RESPECT! (open a dictionary if need be, but PLS learn what the damn word means)


In that case, I am only trying to help you see the facts for what they are.

Thanks, but I'm quite capable of drawing my own conclusions.
(I haven't even posted my position, and you presume to know it, propably thinking that I've swallowed the story presented hook line and sinker. Well sorry to burst your bubble here mate, but that's not the case)




I also think so. Especially in your case. No offense.

No offence taken. I'd have to value a person's opinion first, to feel offended.

Again, just for your info, you're way off base.


I have accepted that there are many nasty people in this world. Do I respect their ways? Certainly not.

As I said, you're in desperate need of a dictionary, to get the proper definition of the word "respect"


What about the fact that I occasionally eat with utensils? Does that count?

Nope. An ape can also eat with utensils, even better than we can with proper guidance and training.



Do you not treat me as an equal?

Sure I do.
I think I could even get to like you too, if you ever decide and/or manage to get OFF the damn fence :P

Cheers

dsl22
30-11-2009, 06:21 AM
Just because they did something wrong and mentioned your name in Texas because of a donation to a blood drive mind you (Whitch in the long run COULD have been good for alot of people who need it)

Keep in mind, Phil Schneider claimed that there are 9 different species that require the endorphins contained within human blood, in order to survive. Phil Schneider was found murdered in his Oregon apartment in January of 1996. After lecturing on the subject for 2 years. If what Schneider says is true, then I'm pretty sure that the blood they are obtaining at the blood drive is used as their food source. It isn't going to help anyone other than Reptilians.

That is the entire point of the girl with Reptilian tattoos taking my paycheck and donating it to a blood drive. It was a clear threat towards me on their part.

Are you aware of Schneider's claims? You seem like you're not. Otherwise, you would understand the significance of donating my paycheck to a BLOOD DRIVE. Being that they theories surrounding these creatures entirely revolves around them needing human blood to survive.

jakob_lemy_zook
01-12-2009, 02:07 AM
Hi,
I completely believe your story as I too am going through the almost exact same stuff. You mentioned the tattoos. The ones I've encountered have dragons on their right legs. I have a long continuing ongoing story too as I'm a game player. I believe you also may be part of a "game." Reptilians love to play games by creating conflict in you and your friends using false memories and mind control. In fact many of these games are videotaped for their "shows." I know it sounds crazy. But, they put people in conflict against each other and also want you to look crazy to your friends adding to the conflict for entertainment. You may be in a show. Have you experienced any roof pounding? Any "cloaking" of Reptilians. Strange dreams? Wide awake and fast asleep type dreams. They use Devil Dust for mind control. Substance called Burundanga. They use a much more powerful extract called, Shocking Blue derived from that plant. Some of these Reptilians also work with rogue elements of Project Monarch. Abducted children for experimentation. They are master at abduction and Devil Dusting Mind Control. Discarded children are eaten through ritual. Blood drinking and so on. So you might be part of the Monarch Project. Not all the Reptilians are evil. There is a sect called the Reptilian 6. I too have met the "old man." He told me things that he says are not in the Bible and said a great 2nd flood was coming not written in the Bible. The next day after talking to him at a park, with me and my wife I looked in the paper, the obituary section and there he was. A picture of him. He had told us where he had worked, lived his relatives and so on and it was all there. He had died the day before our conversation. Very strange. It may have been a shape shifter game play though. Or, maybe a Paranormal. Anyway, I copied your story and put it on my site. http://www.paranormalcinema.com/trumpet-templar
Hang in there. They may tire of the game with you and move on.
They won't harm you physically. If they've put you in game play then your most likely liked. It's hard to understand their psyches and motivations.
The main thing to remember is their not all evil. But, most do loath humans.

dsl22
01-12-2009, 04:20 AM
Hi,
I completely believe your story as I too am going through the almost exact same stuff. You mentioned the tattoos. The ones I've encountered have dragons on their right legs. I have a long continuing ongoing story too as I'm a game player. I believe you also may be part of a "game."

That's interesting. I like how you described the situation as a "game" because that's basically what it felt like the entire time with these people. It just seemed like they were toying around with me the entire time. Like I was the product of some kind of Reptilian, sociological experiment. It was bizarre.

Reptilians love to play games by creating conflict in you and your friends using false memories and mind control. In fact many of these games are videotaped for their "shows." I know it sounds crazy. But, they put people in conflict against each other and also want you to look crazy to your friends adding to the conflict for entertainment.

That doesn't sound crazy at all. I'm definitely open minded to the concept. That's exactly what has happened between my closest friends and I.

Have you experienced any roof pounding? Any "cloaking" of Reptilians. Strange dreams? Wide awake and fast asleep type dreams.

Yes! That's exactly the type of shit that has happened. I've had situations where I know my upstairs neighbor is out of town. He leaves town every weekend. Yet, I'll be looking up information or discussing it on forums, and it sounds like somebody is stomping around upstairs. It constantly seems like I can here somebody moving around in my apartment. I'll here my bed move, as if somebody is sitting down on it. I've had objects fly off of the shelves. Basically, stuff that would fall more under the classification of "paranormal activity."

The dreams I've been having are incredibly vivid and strange. Just 2 nights ago, I was on this forum discussing these situations with my former coworkers. I went to bed later that night and had a vivid dream where I was back at that job with all of these people. I actually woke up in the middle of the night, covered in sweat, as a result of this dream. It's like they were warning me to keep my mouth shut by showing up in my dreams.

There was one situation where I actually woke up with a 6 inch gash across my forehead. It wasn't there when I went to sleep the previous night. I know it wasn't there because I took out my contacts the night before and brushed my teeth. I would have noticed a 6 inch cut across forward. I was looking straight in the mirror before going to sleep. There is no way I would have missed it. Yet, I woke up the next day and there it was.

It's seriously like ( I know this sounds stupid) Freddy Kruger type shit. If you know what I'm talking about. It's freaky as fuck.


They use Devil Dust for mind control. Substance called Burundanga. They use a much more powerful extract called, Shocking Blue derived from that plant. Some of these Reptilians also work with rogue elements of Project Monarch. Abducted children for experimentation. They are master at abduction and Devil Dusting Mind Control. Discarded children are eaten through ritual. Blood drinking and so on. So you might be part of the Monarch Project.

Now, that's freaky because it directly pertains to my encounters with these people. I actually showed up at work one day, and there was a donation box placed on the front counter for finding MISSING CHILDREN. Each week a new picture of a missing child would get placed in the front of the box. It would say,"Missing since 1996." It was ridiculous because every kid I saw a picture of on the donation box would have been at least 23-28 years old by now. Which means whoever was changing the picture out kept putting in pictures of kids that were clearly already dead. Otherwise, they would have reunited with their family by now.

It's like they were kids they've killed. No joke. It pissed me off every time I looked at the box. That's precisely the reason they put it out. To fuck with me and piss me off.



Not all the Reptilians are evil. There is a sect called the Reptilian 6. I too have met the "old man." He told me things that he says are not in the Bible and said a great 2nd flood was coming not written in the Bible. The next day after talking to him at a park, with me and my wife I looked in the paper, the obituary section and there he was. A picture of him. He had told us where he had worked, lived his relatives and so on and it was all there. He had died the day before our conversation. Very strange. It may have been a shape shifter game play though. Or, maybe a Paranormal. Anyway, I copied your story and put it on my site. http://www.paranormalcinema.com/trumpet-templar

That's interesting. Maybe it is the same guy. It's crazy that you saw his picture in the obituary section the next day and it had him listed as dying the day before you saw him.

Thanks for sharing the story on your sight. I really need to fix the links on Part II. I might just post an updated version with working links in my next post. That way you can fix the links on the version you posted on your site.




Hang in there. They may tire of the game with you and move on.
They won't harm you physically. If they've put you in game play then your most likely liked.



I can understand what you're. It did seem like they had a certain amount of respect for me. Like enemies on a battlefield who have mutual respect for one another.

For me, it got the point where I started to actually feel sorry for them. It must be a miserable existence to have sustain life through such deceptive and elaborate means. It kind of made me start to appreciate my place in the Universe as a simple human being. Not look at it as some kind of burden or victimized state of being.

People always assume the Reptilians are superior to us. Which is the way I perceived it for the longest time. After being in direct contact with them for 12 months, I could clearly see this wasn't the case. The nature of Reptilian existence is very morbid and depressing. Not like the nature of human existence. Which can be quite enjoyable, at times.

Thanks again for sharing the story on your website. I'll repost the Parts with working links. The links help to illustrate my point. I can no longer edit my original post on this forum because the moderators told me that the option to edit post expires after a certain amount of time.

metacomet
01-12-2009, 04:21 AM
dsl...

You are being discouraged for a reason. Ignore it.

I think you know what the reason is.

One of these members trying to sidetrack your thread and throwing a fit was at one time a supporter of 'LordReptoid' whose history I am willing to explain to you in private but I think it's against the rules to bring up such stuff in unrelated threads.

The other member calling you a liar and trying to laugh at you for 'trying to sound believable'... he has 12 posts. Suspicious much?

Anyway...

ignore the sidewinding, dude.

It doesn't matter if anyone believes you or not (almost all of us are open minded and willing to consider your story).

What 'they' will do is try to make you feel like you're not believed, that we think you're crazy etc.... just ignore it. We don't think your crazy, and some of us do believe you.

You've wasted enough time and text on the distracters.

This is a really interesting thread and you should just continue to share the experiences you've had!

dsl22
01-12-2009, 04:26 AM
Here is Part II reposted with working links.


Part II

On November 24, 2006 I was visiting my parents in Dallas for Thanksgiving. My dad was always mildly interested in subjects pertaining to ETs. He openly displays multiple UFO books (among others) on the shelf in their living room . I started telling him about my experience with Zach. I started telling him about my suspicions of him. I literally told him that he might not be human. We talked for about 2 hours. Between 7 pm and 9 pm. I showed him this recording.

Area 51 : The Frantic Caller - YouTube

I attempted to turn up the volume I kept getting feedback through the speakers. They kept humming as if a microphone was attached the system. There actually was a microphone attached. It was from the live video connection on the web-cam. Nobody had used the web-cam in years. We failed to realize this, at the time.

The next morning I took my cellphone off of the charger. There was a new voice mail. Coincidentally, Zach had left me a voice mail at 8:13pm. This was right in the middle of my conversation with my father. A conversation where I accused Zach of possibly being a Reptilian shapeshifter. This was an interesting coincidence considering the circumstances. When I returned home for Christmas, the volume on the computer was still pushing feedback through the speakers. I looked at the volume controls. I thought about the web cam microphone. The microphone volume was jacked up all the way and the "mute" box was unchecked. I proceeded to check the "mute" box and the annoying feedback went away. This means the microphone from the web cam was turned on throughout the entire conversation with me father. Even, though we haven't used the web cam in over 2 years. Who turned on the microphone? My dad didn't. My mother is the only person in the house. She doesn't know what a web cam microphone is.

Here is where things start to get really interesting. It was now May of 2007. I was still on the fence regarding the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. However, I was gradually researching that angle more and more. I quit my previous job and started working at another restaurant. It was at this job that the Reptilians revealed themselves to me. All of the employees, including managers where Reptilian shape shifters. In July 2007, I found this video on youtube. It looked exactly like what I previously witnessed in Zach's eyes on that one occasion.

David Icke = Occult Satanist -The New Age Deception & Cointelpro - YouTube

This was proof enough that Zach wasn't human for me. Seeing his eyes shape shift before I ever believed in the existence of shape shifters was enough for me believe in their existence. I was visiting my parents in August 2007. I explained to them that Zach wasn't human. 30 minutes later I received a phone call from Zach! This was the first call I received from Zach since November 24th, 2006. What do you expect me to believe at this point?

This is where things start to get bizarre. The employees at my new job started harassing me. They started making specific references to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters. However, I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED AN INTEREST IN THESE SUBJECTS!!!!!!!!

It was as if they could read my mind. Which is precisely what researchers, witnesses, and whistle blowers claim of Reptilian shape shifters. They are extremely telepathic. Every memory, every secret, every thought can be attained by a Reptilian shape shifters. It was as like the reptilians were warning me to back off. Here is a photo of 2 of the individuals I'm accusing of being Reptilian shape shifters.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=410114252&albumID=1292694&imageID=15752503

The girl on the right is named "Arwyn." She has 2 intertwining snake tattoos running up her left arm. She wore snake earrings on a daily basis for the entire 12 months span of time that I worked with her. She would even show up to work with a pair of sunglasses that had snakes as the wire frames. Her purse was snake skinned as well. The redheaded women on the left is Brandy. She has a tattoo of 2 lizards on her right ankle.

In July, 2007 I started to believe in the existence of Reptilian shape shifters. Immediately after this the 2 women in that photo started harassing me. As well as every other employee at that job. They would constantly make references to blood drinking, cannibalism, pedophilia, and even ETs. For example, I overheard the two women in that photo having a conversation one day. Brandy was saying,"The price of everything is going up. Gas, cocaine, BLOOD." She quickly stopped when she realized that I heard her. She then tried to say," I mean cocaine. The price of cocaine has gone up." However, she knew she was caught. I was leaning up against a crate of marinara sauce. Arwyn walked over to me and said," Hey David. Get away from that. That is my weekly supply of blood. I need that to last me all week." To which I replied," Blood?" She said," Yeah. My blood. I need that to last me all week." I was speechless. I just walked off. This took place in May of 2008. After numerous strange things happened with these people.

Here is another example. I was walking to my car to go on a delivery. The manager and 3 other employees were outside smoking a cig. The orders were piling up. I jokingly told them to get back to work. As I was shutting my car door, I distinctly heard the manager say,"Okay. We're gonna go mutilate some pizzas. After that we're gonna go mutilate some children." This was another reference to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters.

Here is another example. In July 2007, after I convinced myself this stuff was real, two employees made a reference to this kind of information right in front of me. One of them was named "Patrick." The other was named, "Freddy." Patrick picked up a container of BBQ sauce. There was a picture of a black guy on the front. Patrick picked up the sauce, looked over at Freddy and said," Stubbs BBQ sauce. Secret ingredient WHITE PEOPLE." They both snickered and looked over at me. I'm Caucasian with blonde hair and blue eyes. Patrick was an Italian from Boston and Freddy was from Honduras. This was clearly a reference to Reptilians that prefer the genetics of blond haired, blue individuals such as myself.

Patrick is the lead singer of this band.

THE GENTLEMEN'S SOCIAL CLUB-I Get Around at Red Eyed Fly - YouTube

In Feb. 2008, I actually started to speak about this on a forum called Tooltabs.net. I explained everything on that forum that I have explained hear. Immediately after making my first post expressing my claims the harassment picked up drastically. I showed up to work one day to get my pay check. It was nowhere to be found. On the dry erase board it said," Thank you David. Thanks for your donation." Employees said they heard my named mentioned on 101.5X. Which is the biggest radio station in Austin. Patrick is good friends with the DJs. Patrick and Brandy took me aside later that night. They told me that somebody heard my named mentioned on 101.5 FM for giving a donation to a BLOOD DRIVE!!!! Keep in mind. My paycheck was missing. Brandy was like," So that wasn't you." I replied ,"No." Patrick said," HMM. That's strange. It must have been your doppelganger."

I was pissed off at this point. Patrick said,"Cmon Brandy. Come outside with me. I need to talk to you." They walk outside. Arwyn was at the front counter. For some strange reason, she decided to bring an X-Files VHS set to work with her that day. It was sitting on the front counter in plain view. Brandy walks back into the restaurant. She comes over to me and says," You better be careful." The X-Files VHS set was sitting on the counter right next to her. She had an extremely serious look on her face. I walked off. They were clearly warning me not to talk about them.

There was a time when I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine about all of this. I was expressing my anger over the situation. I actually said that I wanted to punch that girl Arwyn in the face. The next day I was working with Arwyn. Patrick came over to me and said," Man David. Don't you just want to punch Arwyn in the face sometimes." I was replied," No. What are you talking about?" Brandy said," Oh, there just playing around with each other." I was talking with Arwyn a couple of months prior to this. She said," Sometimes when I watch the X-files, I get all paranoid and start looking for bugs behind the pictures around the house." After this experience I understood the significance of her statement. They could hear what I was saying ( or at least knew that I said it) in a personal conversation I was having with a good friend of mine.

The company that provided the dough for this restaurant is called "The New World Bakery."Their logo is similar to the Royal Family Seal.

http://www.thenewworldbakery.com/

This isn't everything, I've experienced. It's only about half of everything that has happened over the last 3 years. I'll be back with more later.

dsl22
01-12-2009, 04:35 AM
dsl...

You are being discouraged for a reason. Ignore it.

I think you know what the reason is.

One of these members trying to sidetrack your thread and throwing a fit was at one time a supporter of 'LordReptoid' whose history I am willing to explain to you in private but I think it's against the rules to bring up such stuff in unrelated threads.

Yeah. I remember. somebody has already sent me a private message warning about how this person is friends of "LordReptoid."

"LordReptoid" admits to being a Freemason, doesn't he?

The other member calling you a liar and trying to laugh at you for 'trying to sound believable'... he has 12 posts. Suspicious much?

I know, right? It's just probably a second account started by one of the skeptics to make it appear that more people don't agree with the information.

Anyway...

ignore the sidewinding, dude.

It doesn't matter if anyone believes you or not (almost all of us are open minded and willing to consider your story).

What 'they' will do is try to make you feel like you're not believed, that we think you're crazy etc.... just ignore it. We don't think your crazy, and some of us do believe you.

You've wasted enough time and text on the distracters.

This is a really interesting thread and you should just continue to share the experiences you've had!

Thanks for the support.

And, I was thinking same thing about whether or not the believe me. It certainly isn't going to change anything if they do. Like it matters.

thelyran
01-12-2009, 05:44 AM
Yeah. I remember. somebody has already sent me a private message warning about how this person is friends of "LordReptoid."

"LordReptoid" admits to being a Freemason, doesn't he?



I know, right? It's just probably a second account started by one of the skeptics to make it appear that more people don't agree with the information.



Thanks for the support.

And, I was thinking same thing about whether or not the believe me. It certainly isn't going to change anything if they do. Like it matters.


...No,he was a self-confessed Occultist and sex-slave handler,which Eshtar
was once connected to,it's public knowledge and only repeating here,but his psychology,is far more psychopathic in traits,and unfortunately,his last thread was removed,and can not reference the admissions made on his behalf.He was also a racist and mysognist,but again,the mods removed it,when it should've remained a sticky in the rant room.Alot of people fell for his crap,betrayed me and came crawling back,they're all been fucked off now,
except one who ascended,by backstabbing and treachery,and I got the proof.
...Real Freemasons don't front up at court to get their chauffers licence back,
after defending their own unhealthy lifestyles,he's nothing,when you consistently get off charges for the same crime,that's when you're connected,he's a bum,that suffers Illusions Grandeur,don't let it get to you.Eshtar,can be sweet,she just gets in trouble with her own experimentations and inquisitveness,curiosity killed the cat,but satisfaction bought it back,to quote Iggy Pop,do continue,good thread,but without pissing you off,your mistreatment,is quite lenient,compared to others,including myself,I sucked in for their game,for 10 years,but the methods used,were extreme,to say the least,regards,J.

eshtar
01-12-2009, 09:47 AM
...No,he was a self-confessed Occultist and sex-slave handler,which Eshtar
was once connected to,it's public knowledge and only repeating here,but his psychology,is far more psychopathic in traits,and unfortunately,his last thread was removed,and can not reference the admissions made on his behalf.He was also a racist and mysognist,but again,the mods removed it,when it should've remained a sticky in the rant room.Alot of people fell for his crap,betrayed me and came crawling back,they're all been fucked off now,
except one who ascended,by backstabbing and treachery,and I got the proof.
...Real Freemasons don't front up at court to get their chauffers licence back,
after defending their own unhealthy lifestyles,he's nothing,when you consistently get off chages for the same crime,that's when you're connected,he's a bum,that suffers Illusions Grandeur,don't let it get to you.Eshtar,can be sweet,she just gets in trouble with her own experimentations and inquisitveness,curiosity killed the cat,but satisfaction bought it back,to quote Iggy Pop,do continue,good thread,but without pissing you off,your mistreatment,is quite lenient,compared to others,including myself,I sucked in for their game,for 10 years,but the methods used,were extreme,to say the least,regards,J.


Thanks TheLyran. And for anyone who does think I am still his "friend" I am NOT. (lordreptoid) I trust him as far as I can throw him and never will trust him again and thats all I will say on the matter. I never said what i said about Locations to be some backtracking whatever to side track this thread. I just was saying how I felt on the matter and that was all. I am sorry if it has gone otherwize. I never ment to really discredit this guy I was saying how I felt and am very expressive. if no one else likes that o well. All I do is say how I feel.

thelyran
01-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Thanks TheLyran. And for anyone who does think I am still his "friend" I am NOT. (lordreptoid) I trust him as far as I can throw him and never will trust him again and thats all I will say on the matter. I never said what i said about Locations to be some backtracking whatever to side track this thread. I just was saying how I felt on the matter and that was all. I am sorry if it has gone otherwize. I never ment to really discredit this guy I was saying how I felt and am very expressive. if no one else likes that o well. All I do is say how I feel.


...that's quite OK Eshtar,I rather the accuracy over supposition.I've known for a long time how you really felt,and that would be like a stab of a blade for you.Some people are so senseless,and do not realise,nor do they care,about the pain it causes others.Who-ever Pm'ed DSL22,maybe he'd like to know,I was Pm'ed about him,when he first joined,that he was a coke-sniffing fabricating con-artist,taking the piss out of the forum,still have it somewhere,
that Private Message,but here I am,thinking for myself,and not allowing others to do it for me...you get that...people...can you handle that!...I don't get PM's like that anymore,as they well know,I'm likely to turn on them,same with MrIndigo,if I listened to bullshit,I would've missed out on a good friend,and someone I trust.
...Now,get along people,and remember,someone is always watching,and if only you knew how deeply:eek::D,take care Eshtar,it's my pleasure,to kick amongst the pricks,a biblical quote,regards Eshtar,DSL22...

dsl22
01-12-2009, 08:44 PM
,do continue,good thread,but without pissing you off,your mistreatment,is quite lenient,compared to others,including myself,I sucked in for their game,for 10 years,but the methods used,were extreme,to say the least,regards,J.

Oh no, that doesn't piss me off at all. I feel lucky to have gotten off as easily as I did. I'm sure others have experienced far worse. There is no doubt about that.

Thanks for the support. It's much appreciated.

dsl22
01-12-2009, 08:52 PM
Thanks TheLyran. And for anyone who does think I am still his "friend" I am NOT. (lordreptoid) I trust him as far as I can throw him and never will trust him again and thats all I will say on the matter. I never said what i said about Locations to be some backtracking whatever to side track this thread. I just was saying how I felt on the matter and that was all. I am sorry if it has gone otherwize. I never ment to really discredit this guy I was saying how I felt and am very expressive. if no one else likes that o well. All I do is say how I feel.

Your concerns about my posting of contact links are certainly justified. And, you're definitely not alone in that boat. ProjectAvalon.net banned me after 4 days, for posting contact links. They were concerned for the safety of the individuals, just as you are. I know you were just concerned for their safety and not trying to sidetrack the thread. It's certainly a legitimate concern.

These people never gave me their facebook links, or anything like that. I simply found their facebook pages and posted them on here. I felt it was the only peaceful manner for me to retaliate against the harassment. Which is kind of ironic, because you always see people talk about how the PTB uses facebook and other profile databases to gather information on people. If what I'm saying about them is true, then that means I did the same thing to profile some of their operatives and expose them.

Kind of like using their own weapons against them.

dsl22
01-12-2009, 08:56 PM
...that's quite OK Eshtar,I rather the accuracy over supposition.I've known for a long time how you really felt,and that would be like a stab of a blade for you.Some people are so senseless,and do not realise,nor do they care,about the pain it causes others.Who-ever Pm'ed DSL22,maybe he'd like to know,I was Pm'ed about him,when he first joined,that he was a coke-sniffing fabricating con-artist,taking the piss out of the forum,still have it somewhere,
that Private Message,but here I am,thinking for myself,and not allowing others to do it for me...you get that...people...can you handle that!...I don't get PM's like that anymore,as they well know,I'm likely to turn on them,same with MrIndigo,if I listened to bullshit,I would've missed out on a good friend,and someone I trust.
...Now,get along people,and remember,someone is always watching,and if only you knew how deeply:eek::D,take care Eshtar,it's my pleasure,to kick amongst the pricks,a biblical quote,regards Eshtar,DSL22...

Actually, I was wrong about some PMing me about "LordReptiod." It was actually a user by the name of "deathbeast" that someone had sent me a PM about. They said this "deathbeast" openly admits to being a Freemason. They informed me that one of the people who was skeptical of my story earlier in the thread was friends with "deathbeast."

thelyran
02-12-2009, 02:27 AM
Actually, I was wrong about some PMing me about "LordReptiod." It was actually a user by the name of "deathbeast" that someone had sent me a PM about. They said this "deathbeast" openly admits to being a Freemason. They informed me that one of the people who was skeptical of my story earlier in the thread was friends with "deathbeast."


...yeah,that's right,Deathbeast.There's lots of Freemasons here,like everyone,there's good and the manipulative,don't hold anything against people cause of their affiliations,judge them on individual merit.
...It takes alot of guts to do what you have done,expose it,I did the same as you,but still have'nt mentioned the actual address,the occultist moved to yet.
Hoping a good occultist,remote viewer might intervene for me.
...Hahahaha,Eshtar and I used to not get along,but got to know her a little and sympathetic to how she was used and manipulated,and grew soft.She's a nice girl really,maybe looking from a female perspective,she's probably been stalked before,and if she's attractive,makes it even worse.You know what I'm saying.
...I actually hate the reptile wars,try to withdraw from it,they bore me,and have nothing to offer,there's to much fun to have,and they are'nt my kind of fun.Mine does'nt hurt anybody.Metacomet is a good bloke too,he just has a bad experience with the Lord Reptoid affair,like many did.He's a bit of a protector on the forums in regards to that,I dropped off,except for that cop that popped up a few weeks ago and set me off again,I got set up for a hoax rape as well,so they could get my DNA,to connect an unrelated matter.Hhahaha,it was inadmissable,and had a lot of fun taunting them about it...real wars,not child's play,they're just upset,I never committed suicide like all the others.Before me,the quickest kill was two weeks,and two months being the longest.Me,10 years and going strong....well,they said we are here to die,so be it,even though they mean spiritually.It's a form of negative Group Rapport I go through,but much worse than anyone will even know,except the dead and targetted.They even hooked and chorded one of their own,they have no loyalties,and that one is Steve Busteed's sister,whom I'm trying to free.I'm a finger-snap a way,from contacting him and tell him the real reason,his wife,Mary Braun set me up.And I got his second daughter as witness to prove what really went down,that's what the occultist fear most,but they're to stupid to see,they'll get their freedom too,to drop the contract so to speak....it's a long story.
...No,you keep going,that needs exposing,and you've done your best within your capacity to do so.Friends wanted to help me,once,one got beat-up,the others got stalked and moved interstate!!!,there's just me,and I'm a handful.I won't deny I caused fear in them,like no other,I got contacts to,and can track nearly anyone down,within this country.I got cops and gaol wardens within the family,yes Freemasons too,and thanks to them,my plight would be desperate.The injustice,that's what effects me,other than that,I'd be over it by now.You take care,quite brave,and had a lot of adversity,thanks for your time and understanding my point of view,regards Jase:)

onthefence123
02-12-2009, 02:04 PM
Dsl22,

Even though your thread "wreaks of BS" I continue to respond to you because there's something genuine about you. But then again, it could just be me. Ha-ha. Also, it confuses me as to why you would put so much effort into a lie. Is it for entertainment purposes? Money? Self esteem issues? I wonder what it could be..............

Note: You being genuine would mean that you're deluded in some way. Being genuine certainly doesn't give the BS in your posts any credence.

What am I lying about Peter? You can't point out one thing that I've lied about. You can only make groundless accusations that I'm lying.
How is a 'firm understanding of reality' groundless? It's not.

Look at it from your perspective (just bare with me and stick with the idea behind the example this time!): I made a false claim that I could 'walk on water' (an unbelievable claim, much like your own). Would there be enough reasonable doubt in your mind to propel you to begin serious research...? Why not? Shouldn't you trust sources like the bible as a authentic documentation of facts? Perhaps, I, like Jesus, possess a few God-given abilities and can walk on water!

Another example: if you watched a magic show would you believe that that audience member was really getting cut in half or would you rightfully assume that it's a trick?

I would bet that you 'would' deny it and probably ignore me. I am not ignoring you because believe it or not I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
If you were really going to prove me wrong you would go talk to these people and try to obtain evidence to prove me wrong.
Let's say I did the same thing and gave out contact information of people that have witnessed me walk on water. Would you bother with it? Oh, and by the way, I'm assuming that these people are your active friends. It's possible.

Why are you on this forum Peter? You obviously haven't done any research into this subject. You probably heard about Reptilians 2 weeks ago and think the entire subject is bogus. Not just my thread.
Not quite, but I'll let this pass. As you know by now, I am not interested in doing research about something that I consider completely unbelievable.

I did too, for the first year and half. I thought information pertaining to Reptilians was disinformation. My personal experiences showed me that it was 100 % real. I didn't just start believing this subject on the spot. This is an issue where "seeing is believing." After what I've seen, there is no turning back.
The problem with that is that I didn't see it for myself and that is why I still don't believe it and will probably continue to think that you're BSing. Can you convince me otherwise? Start with this: what makes you think that any of your experiences are enough to convince you that the former unbelievable BS about reptilians is indeed true and not just your brain malfunctioning in some way...? Answer that truthfully and I become a little tempted to believe you.

Why would you take the information seriously? It's completely foreign to everything else you've seen in your lifetime.
Why would I take the research seriously? There is a lot of research that supports BS out there.

The experiences I've had line up with the information presented by researchers on the subject.
Yes, I know, but the personal experience that you claim to have undergone isn't reliable to me. Just think, how can I possibly believe you? Just answer my previous questions truthfully and we'll see where we stand.

Consider this: experience + research = fact?

That seems to be your formula. However, there are a few potential problems with it. Firstly, if you're schizophrenic (or if your brain is malfunctioning/ed in some other way) and you see a ghost (a hallucination) and then you do your research and find that there have been thousands of sightings (other hallucinations) then you're going to become wrongfully convinced of a lie (assuming that ghosts do not exist).
Are you kidding me?
What's the problem? Can't you put yourself into someone else's shoes? Hmmm... I guess I should expect such a narcissistic trait from a liar!

As you can see, the evidence just keeps piling up in my favor.

If there was no contact info in general, the counter argument against me would be far stronger than it is now.
Perhaps for a misguided soul. It's a little sad because you're claims have the potential to fool many people. It's a vicious cycle.

With contact info provided, viewers can see that these are real individuals that I've discussed. Not products of my imagination.
So what? It doesn't prove anything.

"Without any backing." Are you claiming these people are helping my lie or something? This is getting ridiculous.

Heh, you let it slip. You wrote: "my" lie (check). Meaning: "I am claiming those people are helping 'your' lie." You got it!

By the way, in exchange for the word 'ridiculous', I would use the word 'realistic', so that quoting you would read:

Are you claiming these people are helping my lie or something? This is getting realistic.

Anyway, let's carry on.......................

Numerous people on multiple forums have spoken to these people and confirmed their existence.
I am not doubting that your contacts are real people.


In closing: I was going to write some sort of smart remark but I feel burnt out after trying to consider the possibility that you might be 100% right. Imagine that!


Kind regards,
Peter

onthefence123
02-12-2009, 02:32 PM
Really? I think you should go back a few pages and re-read your post.
I could say the same to you. Perhaps our definitions of 'bashing' and 'insulting' also differ? That's OK, it's not like it means you're wrong.
Let's get one thing straight. I didn't criticize your position on the matter, nor your intention. I was bothered by the way you phrased it.
To tell you the truth it also bothered me a little while I was writing that response and after I had sent it but I wrote it anyway because I was pretty frustrated with... stuff... Life in general. I had thoughts similar to 'what if he's just a nice guy kindly sharing his experiences' and so on.

I guess I was protesting my emotional sensitivity.
I wouldn't disagree with you on the line crossing either. But disinfo wasn't as bad to my mind as other ..discrepancies. Like exposing certain things he shouldn't have...(I agree with esthar on that one)
Ahhh... I just figured that they were all in on it. It also crossed my mind that maybe they had a falling out and he was mad, etc... He did say that anyone could get into contact with them but I'm curious as to how... Whatever... It doesn't matter since those things can be faked.
a/ Our different interpretation of "respect" is right! I suggest you read some Plato (especially his writings on Socrates), on your spare time.
Do I have to!? Ugh! There's something not right about looking back into past history... I'd rather get my info from the latest news/research.
b/ letting or not letting people delude themselves, has little to do with respect.
It does have something to do with respect for that individual. Ex. If you don't respect someone then you might allow them to delude themselves. However, if you do respect them then you probably wouldn't do that. You see?
What are you? A mind policeman-
There seem to be mind policeman in my head! I can't help it.
Respect has to do with the way one approaches their fellow man and is (or isn't) integrated in their behavior and values.
Yes, the approach of knowingly letting someone delude themselves isn't very respectful in my book.
Have you ever considered the possibility that your assumptions and biased, unfounded and quickie " conclusions" about people you don't even know, are way of base?
I think about this all the time. I second guess myself like crazy. It's part of my illness to constantly test the waters and reevaluate my reality.
What else I wonder...
Don't make me go back and check to see what you're referring to... Sorry, it's just that I haven't slept all night, again, and it's already well into the morning.
What you ddn't get (due to superficial thought process) is the fact that I wasn't defending any one in particular, only my principle. In other words, its the principle of the thing. An the principle of the thing here..had to do with... RESPECT! (open a dictionary if need be, but PLS learn what the damn word means)
Oh... That's right, you still haven't given me a definition for respect... Btw, haven't you ever considered that maybe your principal is slightly off?

My definition for respect: to treat someone or something as thou shalt (did I use 'thou shalt' correctly?) like to be treated.

So according to my definition, a sadist would be respectful to another person if they caused them pain... Hmmm... Guess that's not a good definition. However, I would surely use it if I didn't know how someone would like to be treated and if it was within the bounds of social/cultural approval/tradition.

One more go for 'respect': treating people as they would like to be treated. This is a winner!

Note: we don't know how dsl22 would like to be treated so I was treating him as I wouldn't mind to have been treated in that situation. Further, respect for the greater good is more valuable than respect for one individual. One overshadows the other. So, I guess this shows that I was right!

Thanks, but I'm quite capable of drawing my own conclusions.
(I haven't even posted my position, and you presume to know it, propably thinking that I've swallowed the story presented hook line and sinker. Well sorry to burst your bubble here mate, but that's not the case)
I'm glad to hear it.
No offence taken. I'd have to value a person's opinion first, to feel offended.

Hey, I value your opinion. For what it's worth.
As I said, you're in desperate need of a dictionary, to get the proper definition of the word "respect"
I didn't even use a dictionary for my definition.
I think I could even get to like you too, if you ever decide and/or manage to get OFF the damn fence :P
:)


Kind regards,
Peter

dsl22
02-12-2009, 06:18 PM
Dsl22,

Even though your thread "wreaks of BS" I continue to respond to you because there's something genuine about you. But then again, it could just be me. Ha-ha. Also, it confuses me as to why you would put so much effort into a lie. Is it for entertainment purposes? Money? Self esteem issues? I wonder what it could be..............

Note: You being genuine would mean that you're deluded in some way. Being genuine certainly doesn't give the BS in your posts any credence.


How is a 'firm understanding of reality' groundless? It's not.

Look at it from your perspective (just bare with me and stick with the idea behind the example this time!): I made a false claim that I could 'walk on water' (an unbelievable claim, much like your own). Would there be enough reasonable doubt in your mind to propel you to begin serious research...? Why not? Shouldn't you trust sources like the bible as a authentic documentation of facts? Perhaps, I, like Jesus, possess a few God-given abilities and can walk on water!

Another example: if you watched a magic show would you believe that that audience member was really getting cut in half or would you rightfully assume that it's a trick?

I would bet that you 'would' deny it and probably ignore me. I am not ignoring you because believe it or not I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Let's say I did the same thing and gave out contact information of people that have witnessed me walk on water. Would you bother with it? Oh, and by the way, I'm assuming that these people are your active friends. It's possible.


Not quite, but I'll let this pass. As you know by now, I am not interested in doing research about something that I consider completely unbelievable.


The problem with that is that I didn't see it for myself and that is why I still don't believe it and will probably continue to think that you're BSing. Can you convince me otherwise? Start with this: what makes you think that any of your experiences are enough to convince you that the former unbelievable BS about reptilians is indeed true and not just your brain malfunctioning in some way...? Answer that truthfully and I become a little tempted to believe you.


Why would I take the research seriously? There is a lot of research that supports BS out there.


Yes, I know, but the personal experience that you claim to have undergone isn't reliable to me. Just think, how can I possibly believe you? Just answer my previous questions truthfully and we'll see where we stand.

Consider this: experience + research = fact?

That seems to be your formula. However, there are a few potential problems with it. Firstly, if you're schizophrenic (or if your brain is malfunctioning/ed in some other way) and you see a ghost (a hallucination) and then you do your research and find that there have been thousands of sightings (other hallucinations) then you're going to become wrongfully convinced of a lie (assuming that ghosts do not exist).

What's the problem? Can't you put yourself into someone else's shoes? Hmmm... I guess I should expect such a narcissistic trait from a liar!

As you can see, the evidence just keeps piling up in my favor.


Perhaps for a misguided soul. It's a little sad because you're claims have the potential to fool many people. It's a vicious cycle.


So what? It doesn't prove anything.



Heh, you let it slip. You wrote: "my" lie (check). Meaning: "I am claiming those people are helping 'your' lie." You got it!

By the way, in exchange for the word 'ridiculous', I would use the word 'realistic', so that quoting you would read:



Anyway, let's carry on.......................


I am not doubting that your contacts are real people.


In closing: I was going to write some sort of smart remark but I feel burnt out after trying to consider the possibility that you might be 100% right. Imagine that!


Kind regards,
Peter

LOL!

This guy is funny. I think it's just better to agree to disagree. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Just understand that it is your opinion that I'm lying or suffering from schizophrenia. It isn't a conclusive fact, as you keep claiming.

I asked you earlier, what brings you to the forum? If I'm going to take the time to address your long list of irrelevant questions, I would like you to do me the same courtesy of replying to my 1 question.

So, what are you doing on this forum?

Typically people who are skeptical of Icke's work, and conspiracy information in general, don't dedicate time to discussing these issues with people that they believe ( it is only your BELIEF) are "liars," or "schizophrenics." I'm having a little trouble understanding what your motives for dedicating time on the forum are. I find it interesting (telling) that 3 people show up in 2 days to accuse me of lying. It's almost like you guys are colluding with one another. Which is quite common on forums like this. The CIA/MI6/ Freemasons/ Mussad constantly implant people on forums to divert discussion away from these issue. By insulting the presenter of the information and slandering them. Which you have been doing the entire time.

Which seems like your motive when you start talking about "Jesus" and making improvable accusations of lies and schizophrenia. If anybody is lying here, I would say that it appears to be you.

:D

kingmob
02-12-2009, 11:39 PM
IF I was on the fense about DSL's stories, I'm inclined to believe them now. A bunch of turdy trolls that came in here and so obviosly tried to defraud him have done a great service in insuring that DSL is genuine.

Its so freakin' obvious that they have tried different angles by sending in a bunch of no names trolls, freshly registered, to one or two with a good post count to try to sway the public opinion in the direction of falseness.

Also, that Michael Christopher guy is paranoid. If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading and interracting with him in a few threads where he completely flipped out on the basis that everyone hates gays, and he is sick of it. It was completely irrational and full of hate. Woudn't trust him at all.

DSL continue updating us.

I would also love to find you a story of an Australian guy whose stories very much parallel yours. Only if I could remember where I got that stuff.

thelyran
03-12-2009, 12:51 AM
IF I was on the fense about DSL's stories, I'm inclined to believe them now. A bunch of turdy trolls that came in here and so obviosly tried to defraud him have done a great service in insuring that DSL is genuine.

Its so freakin' obvious that they have tried different angles by sending in a bunch of no names trolls, freshly registered, to one or two with a good post count to try to sway the public opinion in the direction of falseness.

Also, that Michael Christopher guy is paranoid. If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading and interracting with him in a few threads where he completely flipped out on the basis that everyone hates gays, and he is sick of it. It was completely irrational and full of hate. Woudn't trust him at all.

DSL continue updating us.

I would also love to find you a story of an Australian guy whose stories very much parallel yours. Only if I could remember where I got that stuff.


...if it was on this forum,good possibility it was mine,Freedom From The Reppies,I just have'nt updated it,and a mod,deleted a post with a picture of the cop who set me up,well,I suppose the threat I left was pushing it,but not the picture.I have a youtube channel,under this user name,it features traffic accidents on the Pacific Hwy,google search youtube,Man dead following shocking five vehicle smash,...the cop interviewed is the one who set me up for a hoax rape,she committed perjury (4 counts),corrupt evidence,conspiracy
attempt to pervert the course of justice,just to name a few.Took a few weeks to get over it,I'd love to have her charged and thrown in gaol,where true justice happens to people like that,I know,I'm a gaol wardens son.Anyway,good thread,please continue.Regards.

dsl22
03-12-2009, 06:25 AM
Here some interesting news about changes over at AboveTopSecret.com.

They now have a section of the forum where you can post issues pertaining to illicit drugs. However, they still say they will ban you for posting about personal drug use. I may still try to post my thread and see what happens.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread523008/pg1

kingmob
03-12-2009, 06:39 AM
Avalon and Above Secret Forums are run by CIA. Wouldn't bother with them, they are heavily moderated.

dsl22
03-12-2009, 07:18 AM
Avalon and Above Secret Forums are run by CIA. Wouldn't bother with them, they are heavily moderated.

Dude, Avalon was really creepy. I was on there for about 4 days, before I was banned. While I was there, one of their users sent me this threatening message telling me to "tread lightly." He/she said something along the lines of "Demons are disguised in the wings of Angels."

Then, later that night something really freaky took place. I don't know how to describe it. It honestly sounded like there was some kind of creature outside of the front door to my apartment. It sounded like a fucking dinosaur. I know that sounds insane, but that is the only way to describe it. It sounded like a raptor-like sound. There is no way a human or any animal that I know of could have made that kind of sound. It moved from outside of the front door, to around the side of my apartment. I actually looked outside to see what it could be, but I never saw anything.

After this took place, I watched the most recent Camelot interview with Jordan Maxwell. In that interview (not sure how far in), Maxwell spoke of a witness that he had interviewed. He said that she was the daughter of an USAF Kernel, who investigated the ET phenomenon for the USAF. She said that any time her father left the house to investigate ETs for the USAF, there would be 3-4 armed military guard outside of the house. Even though they lived on USAF base.

This women said that there was only one occasion, in her childhood, where her father left the house, without armed guards stationed at the house. She said her father had walked down the street to a neighbor's house for a few minutes and left her alone in the house. She was playing in her room and walked over to the closet to get a toy out. When she opened the door, a 7 foot tall Reptilian stepped out of the closet. She said that it had to bend over to get out of the closet because it was so tall.

She remembers screaming and running down the hallway to the bathroom. She locked the door behind her and ran over to the window, opened it, and started screaming out of the window, at the top of her lungs. While she did this, she said the Reptilian was outside of the door and scratched the door with his claws. Throughout this encounter, she said the creature was making a screechy noise, like a DINOSAUR.

I highly recommend watching that interview with Jordan Maxwell. He said he did the interview with this women for his radio show. I can't remember her name.

Here is the actual excerpt from that interview where he discusses this woman's testimony. I just looked and found it. He covers this woman's testimony in this excerpt. Nancy is her name. He discusses how it made a dinosaur sound at 8:20 into this video.

Jordan Maxwell about reptilians - YouTube

What I heard outside of my apartment that night, sounds EXACTLY like the description this "Nancy" women gives. What I heard that night sounded like a dinosaur. I'm fully convinced that the noise I heard was the same sound.

I think a Reptilian actually paid me a little visit to warn me to stay away from Project Camelot. Project Camelot already offered to interview me, over a year ago. They saw me ranting about by experiences on a youtube video and posted a comment on my youtube page asking me if anyone has documented my experiences on video. I never replied to their request and I deleted my youtube account, shortly after.

FREAKY SHIT!

dsl22
03-12-2009, 08:01 AM
Wow. Check this out. I noticed this subliminal message in the movie "A Time To Kill"

I started a thread in the "subliminal section" of the David Icke forum.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93810

kingmob
03-12-2009, 08:31 AM
ATS and Avalon forums have been compromised from the get go. One or two looks was enough for me to never go back. This board might be the only board of the sort that still has moderators who are clean of pollution. Although you will still see a bunch of undercover pollutants trying to start fights and spread disinfo and hatred where needed. Your thread is a good example.
Yea, I've seen that Jordan Maxwell interview. He always has something very interesting to say, albeit with some repetition. I have some trust issues personally with Project Camelot too....They aren't what they pretend to be. Too many red flags.

Looks like scare tactics are underway. Doubt you are in any danger, but be careful.
There was a thread here somewhere about somebody seeing some dinosaur type of creature outside of their house. May be somebody remembers it a bit better?

Let me ask you this: Have you heard or remember any strange clicking sounds when you were in the presense of these individuals or when you experienced shapeshifting? That seems to be a prevailing occurence with these types of things.

onthefence123
03-12-2009, 11:27 AM
*Sigh....*

You have disappointed me yet again by working against me instead of 'with me' on this. As a 'rational' person you should sympathize with my position and act accordingly. Besides pretending like you're surprised you should be glad that people don't believe you and instead put pressure on you to produce proof. What kind of world would this be if everyone with a 'crazy' idea was believed? If I lived in such a world then I would remain 'crazy' because my delusions would be encouraged. Not good.

I will answer your question (a question I have already answered on my thread) even though your question has nothing to do with your purpose on here...........................

I asked you earlier, what brings you to the forum? If I'm going to take the time to address your long list of irrelevant questions, I would like you to do me the same courtesy of replying to my 1 question.

So, what are you doing on this forum?

In short: I came on here out of curiosity. To see if there's any reason to believe in any of this stuff. I wanted to convince myself that when something seems too unbelievable to be true... It usually is.

Things that would fit the 'unbelievable' category are: reptilians, angels, demons, gods, psychics, witchcraft, aliens, bigfoot, telepathy, etc etc etc... It's a long list and all these things/ideas have deceived man for many ages.

Here's one example of what happens when people believe in crazy things: A mother prays to Jehovah to bless her bedridden daughter. Sadly her daughter passes away the next night. Now here's my issue: She didn't accept the blood transfusion that would have saved her daughter's life because it was forbidden by her religion.

Witch hunts, religious wars, wasted lives, poisoned minds, etc etc etc... Are just a few other examples of what happens when peoples' minds are tricked into believing in false information by people like you.

Annother reason for why I'm here is: I wanted to understand what 'good proof' people have for believing in these things. For instance, someone showed me a propaganda type video that supposedly showed Kennedy being assassinated by the driver. This theory (fact for many) was 'proof' that William Cooper (and others like him) were telling the truth. In actuality, it proved the 'opposite' because that video was disproven a long time ago. Nevertheless, people still keep believing in all these conspiracies, etc. Bad proof, lack of intelligence, people like you, mental illness, etc... Are the contributing factors to why people keep believing in things that just aren't real.

If one unbelievable theory gets disproven then all unbelievable theories should be suspected and the founding fathers of such disproven theories should be held accountable. I would even go as far to state that you 'should not' believe in anything that has not been proven. This is why you (dsl22) are doing an injustice to people that are looking for credibility among these theories.

Typically people who are skeptical of Icke's work, and conspiracy information in general, don't dedicate time to discussing these issues with people that they believe ( it is only your BELIEF) are "liars," or "schizophrenics."
Mainly, I believe that many people who believe in this stuff are deluded. These people get deluded by people like you.

I'm having a little trouble understanding what your motives for dedicating time on the forum are.
Simple: I want to be certain of the truth. As do most people.

I find it interesting (telling) that 3 people show up in 2 days to accuse me of lying. It's almost like you guys are colluding with one another.
That's not true. I don't know who you're talking about and I haven't engaged in any form of correspondence with him/her/or them. By the way, is that paranoia I sense? Paranoia can be a symptom of a underlying mental issue.

That reminds me, your so-called proof resembles my so-called proof when I was delusional. There was a lot of synchronicity involved in that too. I want you to know that there are many powerful pharmaceuticals on the market to help you.

Which is quite common on forums like this.
I wouldn't know because I don't have much experience on internet forums. Is this a common thing for you?

The CIA/MI6/ Freemasons/ Mussad constantly implant people on forums to divert discussion away from these issue.
There you go with the paranoia again.

If anybody is lying here, I would say that it appears to be you.
You don't just appear to be lying. You are lying.

Dude, if I was you and I really believed in this stuff then I would get myself some 'actual' proof (it's funny because for me the actual proof is you and your thread!). But you didn't do that, did you? No. Instead of getting some actual proof, so that others would believe you, you believed in all these 'synchronicities' that were happening to you. Here's a question for you: did you confront these so-called reptilians? Why are you revealing such a great truths about such a great powers when they can easily kill you? Aren't you afraid for you life? Where's your paranoia now? Please answer this truthfully: have you ever been prescribed any kind of medication for your special needs?

Start with this question if you want reasonably stable people to take you seriously.........

What makes you think that any of your experiences are enough to convince you that the former unbelievable BS about reptilians is indeed true and not just your brain malfunctioning in some way...?

In other words, which pieces of evidence (please provide those pieces of evidence!) prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that your (exceedingly bizarre) claims are indeed factual?


Kind regards,
Peter

onthefence123
03-12-2009, 11:38 AM
Kingmob, good one! (Heh)
IF I was on the fense about DSL's stories, I'm inclined to believe them now. A bunch of turdy trolls that came in here and so obviously tried to defraud him have done a great service in insuring that DSL is genuine.
Did you miss the irony?
Its so freakin' obvious that they have tried different angles by sending in a bunch of no names trolls, freshly registered, to one or two with a good post count to try to sway the public opinion in the direction of falseness.
I am pretty sure that 'pubic opinion' agrees with me. If not, then we're all doomed!!!
DSL continue updating us.
You might as well give him your soul. However, giving him your 'ability to distinguish fact from fiction' would be like a dehydrated man in the desert offering you some water.
I would also love to find you a story of an Australian guy whose stories very much parallel yours. Only if I could remember where I got that stuff.
Does a lie ever become anymore true through repetition? It's scary to think that it does.

By the way, I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not having you on my side. Word of advice: stay on 'your own' side. Not his. Disappointment awaits you.


Kind regards,
Peter

w0rm
03-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Avalon and Above Secret Forums are run by CIA. Wouldn't bother with them, they are heavily moderated.

I got the feeling something wasn't quite right on that forum, I'm glad I stumbled across this thread otherwise I'd still be a PC regular.

That said, how do you know for sure it's run by CIA? I'm not trying to discount what you're saying, merely curious. PM me if you could to avoid hijacking the topic at hand.
:)

dsl22
03-12-2009, 08:32 PM
I got the feeling something wasn't quite right on that forum, I'm glad I stumbled across this thread otherwise I'd still be a PC regular.

That said, how do you know for sure it's run by CIA? I'm not trying to discount what you're saying, merely curious. PM me if you could to avoid hijacking the topic at hand.
:)

There isn't anything wrong with answering here. It is certainly pertinent information to this discussion.

For me personally, I'm not 100% sure that Bill and Kerry are shills. They push their own personal beliefs pretty hard, but I still get the impression that they're only trying to help. I think they lost a lot of respect from people after the Dr. Steven Greer interview. Which was much more of an argument than an interview. I actually agree with Kerry that there are malevolent/bad ETs. However, her persistence on pushing that one issue throughout the interview was a waste of time. She could have been asking Greer questions on numerous other issues. Instead of reverting back to the same issue, over and over, throughout the entire interview.

However, the forum, ProjectAvalon.net, has clearly got some shady people over there. Which, Bill and Kerry don't really spend much time on that forum, from what I understand. I don't think Bill, or Kerry, has even spoken on that forum since last year. So, I wouldn't blame them for the strange people on the forum. All forums like this have weird people on them. Bill's and Kerry's main focus is to travel around and get testimonies on record. Not to moderate the forum.

The other strange aspect about Project Camelot is how some of their witnesses and contacts have ended up dying in the past year. Again, I don't think Bill and Kerry have anything to with this. It's most likely the PTB killing off their contacts.

Personally, I still like Project Camelot and will continue to watch their interviews. I think they are doing the best they can with what they've got to work with.

kingmob
03-12-2009, 09:09 PM
There have been quite a few whistleblowers that labeled Avalon and ATS as psy-ops by agencies for insemination of disinformation in conspiracy circles. Its been verified over time by many individual accounts, ranging from direct misinfo being fed to those forums from "first sources", or from numerous cases of moderators changing/closing/deleting accounts/threads, user interactions, etc for anything that didn't suit the agenda. If you search enough, there are detailed accounts relayed here. I'm a bit too lazy to search for that myself.


As far as Camelot, there are conflicting opinions, but here is a recent thread on that topic:
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92854


And I'm really sorry for upsetting some trolls :D

w0rm
03-12-2009, 09:12 PM
There isn't anything wrong with answering here. It is certainly pertinent information to this discussion.

For me personally, I'm not 100% sure that Bill and Kerry are shills. They push their own personal beliefs pretty hard, but I still get the impression that they're only trying to help. I think they lost a lot of respect from people after the Dr. Steven Greer interview. Which was much more of an argument than an interview. I actually agree with Kerry that there are malevolent/bad ETs. However, her persistence on pushing that one issue throughout the interview was a waste of time. She could have been asking Greer questions on numerous other issues. Instead of reverting back to the same issue, over and over, throughout the entire interview.

However, the forum, ProjectAvalon.net, has clearly got some shady people over there. Which, Bill and Kerry don't really spend much time on that forum, from what I understand. I don't think Bill, or Kerry, has even spoken on that forum since last year. So, I wouldn't blame them for the strange people on the forum. All forums like this have weird people on them. Bill's and Kerry's main focus is to travel around and get testimonies on record. Not to moderate the forum.

The other strange aspect about Project Camelot is how some of their witnesses and contacts have ended up dying in the past year. Again, I don't think Bill and Kerry have anything to with this. It's most likely the PTB killing off their contacts.

Personally, I still like Project Camelot and will continue to watch their interviews. I think they are doing the best they can with what they've got to work with.

I'm not too fond of Kerry, I don't think she even believes what she's saying half of the time which in turn makes me very dubious.

Although, I do appreciate the work her and Bill put in - some of their interviews have been my favourite.

What do you think of David Wilcock?

kingmob
03-12-2009, 09:14 PM
David Wilcock is a charlatan. He is the worst of the worst. Carry on..

w0rm
03-12-2009, 09:21 PM
David Wilcock is a charlatan. He is the worst of the worst. Carry on..

I'm not naive enough to be hanging on David Wilcock's every word, regardless, I do believe he has good intentions.

What researchers do you believe to be authentic?

kingmob
03-12-2009, 09:24 PM
I'm not naive enough to be hanging on David Wilcock's every word, regardless, I do believe he has good intentions.

What researchers do you believe to be authentic?

I cannot be sure of any researcher of being authentic, if I am to be completely honest with you. I just know of a deceiver when I see one, and Wilcock is definitely a spoiled egg.

There is a section on researches here, and also a section dedicated to a guy that passed away by the name of Rick Clay(who was authentic). Stop by and read some reviews, but try to make the determination for yourself on most researches. Let your intuition guide you.

dsl22
03-12-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm not too fond of Kerry, I don't think she even believes what she's saying half of the time which in turn makes me very dubious.

Although, I do appreciate the work her and Bill put in - some of their interviews have been my favourite.

What do you think of David Wilcock?

I like Wilcock, but he puts too much stock into his sources. Like the whole "November disclosure" thing. It was obviously a farce, from the get go. Too many bodies have piled up for the PTB to just come out say,"Well, here it is." I was surprised to see Wilcock pushing it so hard.

I think people like Wilcock, Bill, and Kerry have nothing, but good intentions. However, they are often times saute out by disinformation agents, posing as whistle blowers. In order to use them as a channel to inadvertently fill the information pipeline with disinformation.

I wonder what the conversation was like between Wilcock and his disclosure sources, after the time passed. Is he like," Guys, what the fuck? You just made me look like a fool." ?

ytch
03-12-2009, 11:09 PM
The other strange aspect about Project Camelot is how some of their witnesses and contacts have ended up dying in the past year. Again, I don't think Bill and Kerry have anything to with this. It's most likely the PTB killing off their contacts.


Hi there dsl,

nice to see you didnīt let the dark people on this forum get you down,
Iīm following your thread with great interest and canīt wait to hear more..:cool:

But to come back to your quote,
who exactly ended up dying?

I havenīt followed the avalon interviews,
I once watched one, but something about it made me feel strange
and "low vibrational(?)", so I didnīt bother to see any more.

But that sounds creepy...

Love & Laughter,

y

dsl22
03-12-2009, 11:52 PM
Hi there dsl,

nice to see you didnīt let the dark people on this forum get you down,
Iīm following your thread with great interest and canīt wait to hear more..:cool:

But to come back to your quote,
who exactly ended up dying?

I havenīt followed the avalon interviews,
I once watched one, but something about it made me feel strange
and "low vibrational(?)", so I didnīt bother to see any more.

But that sounds creepy...

Love & Laughter,

y

One of their sources was an anonymous source who went by the alias "Mr. X." He was an ET researcher/whistle blower that lived in Las Vegas. They actually mentioned his death on ProjectCamelot.org. He wasn't old at all and I'm still not sure what the circumstances surrounding his untimely death were. It was sad too, because he and his wife had just had a child right before his death.

I googled the annoucement for "Mr. X."

http://www.projectcamelot.org/mr_x.html

I remember there being an announcement for another one of their sources being diagnosed with some form of terminal cancer ( or another disease), but I can't remember their name. And, I can't see the announcement on PC.org, anymore. I remember them showing a picture of the guy. I just can't remember his name. ProjectCamelot actually mentioned that they believed his disease was probably caused by the PTB. I wish I could find the announcement. I think it was up there a couple of months back, but not anymore.

Ah, here it is. I did a bit of poking around in the PC.org archives. It was announced on October 26th, 2009. He died of a brain tumor. His name was "Tony Dodd."

http://projectcamelot.org/dodd.html

I think the PTB definitely had something do with "Mr. X's" death.

onthefence123
04-12-2009, 12:11 AM
Dsl22, are you planning on answering my questions any time soon? Let's not forget that I have answered yours. You should know, I only have a few more days left on here. After that, it's arrivederci!

Look, to be honest, we were both a little unfair to each other. You are the one who first started with your heavily ... account of what happened to you, and I, came on here and told you what I thought of it. So, if it makes up for anything, I would like to apologize for unknowingly being a bit of an a-hole. OK? (Forgive and forget)

I know where you and people who support you, stand. You people view yourselves as being above the deluded believers and the closed-minded nonbelievers (at truth seeking). Rightly so. I can see your logic and I agree. I am on your side whether you choose to recognize it or not. However - and this only has to do with a minor technicality - I do not allow myself to be completely opened to... info such as yours. And you'll soon find out why.

I will read a page of your personal account and I'll show you the problems as I see them.

Before I start reading, I would just like to comment that – if it is you (your photo) – you look like a really nice guy. Friendly. Honest. Boy next door type.

Book/cover. Whatever. We're all guilty of that from time to time.

To summarize it as best as I can, immediately after I started researching Reptilian shape shifters, representatives from their species made contact with me. I'm still not 100% as to why this has taken place.
Representatives from their species = Reptilian shape shifters? Or is one different from the other? Anyway, how can you be sure that it was either of those? These questions come to mind. If you have answered these questions further into your post then I will keep an eye out for the answers.
However, I am 100% sure that it has taken place.
You being 100% sure doesn't prove anything to anyone.
It may also be happening with other individuals around the world. In fact, my personal experiences actually confirm this assumption. Hopefully, others with similar experiences will come forward after reading this. I know I'm not the only one.
If I was one of those of who you spoke of then I would be hessitant in sharing my story on the internet. After all, you may be working for them and picking off individuals who know. Possible? If reptilian shape shifters are possible then I'd say that my theory is also possible.
I first heard of Reptilian shape shifters in late 2005. I was researching 9/11 for a couple of months and came across David dIcke's information. I disregarded it as utter nonsense. As most do when presented with that kind of information for the first time. I was 20 years old at the time. I was interested in conspiracy theories from a fairly young age. I was reading about JFK, Roswell, ETs, Deep Underground Military Bases, etc. as early as 15 years old.
15yrs old, huh? I'm now sure that you have a lot of tallied research hours under your belt. This couls either work for you or against you.

Don't mind me... I'm just having a little bit of fun because you're making me read this story (or personal account).
This was largely a product of being fans of the comedian Bill Hicks. So, coming across David dIcke's info wasn't entirely surprising. I just needed a lot more than that to be convinced that the world was run by secret bloodlines of Reptilian hybrids. Coincidentally, I was living in a duplex on WINDSOR RD at the time I first heard about the Royal Family being Reptilian hybrids. You will see a lot synchronicity like this as you read further.
Look at the way you spelled David Icke's name (in above quote).

For the uninformed, where is the coincidence? Please spell it out. And is this when it all... began?
Shortly after reading about these theories I was lying in bed one night and witnessed my first UFO.
I was expecting you to set the stage. So... you were lying in bed and you just happened to be looking at the sky and there they were... UFO's? ...Lights? ...Fireflies?
I was watching 2 bright "stars" outside of my window for about 5 minutes. Then, one of the "stars" rapidly moved towards the other and the two objects became one.
Maybe it was some being's lucky night?
Not long after this, I came into contact with my first Reptilian hybrid
Are you by any chance synchronizing those two events; 2 small bright lights that became one... bigger (?) ... bright light + contact with first reptilian hybrid? Now I want to find out how you knew – when most people would miss – that this was for sure a reptilian hybrid? Oh... I get it... They somehow knew about you seeing those 2 bright lights!
His name was "Zachery." I won't release his last name in order to keep his identity private.
I was under the impression that you didn't want to keep these things private.
I was huge pothead.
*Puff*
Immediately before Zach quit working there, another individual by the name of "Chris" started working there.
OMG...The 2nd coincidence! It's all starting to come together now.
Chris had just moved to Austin from Dallas. According to his claims, Chris was formerly a drug dealer for a MAFIA family in Dallas. He actually mentioned the name of this family, but I didn't remember it. I didn't think it was significant at that point and time. Now I do.
Why the heck would anybody that you just met tell you this? Unbelievable, as usual.
In June 2006, I started researching the Israeli connection to 9/11.
For a young pothead you sure do have a lot of time on your hands. Between school, work, going out, etc... How do you find the time for all this? Ahhh... perhaps it's a school project?
I also came across the claims that Alex Jones was a Zionist agent. I actually went on Alex Jones' myspace page and started accusing him of this in the comments section.
Do you always believe everything you read? That would explain a lot about you. And you just admitted to 'trolling' Alex Jones' myspace page. Hmmm... Tell me you see the synchronicity between us. Hint: you went on a forum making unsubstantiated claims about someone's dirty secret and I'm coming on here in much the same manner. Sort of.
5 minutes after I made this post accusing him of being a Zionist agent I received a phone call from Zach. Zach is Jewish. I didn't answer the call. I disregarded the phone call as a coincidence.
That's because it was a coincidence. So, what did Zach have to say? “Dude, got any ganja?”
I really hope that the rest of your posts aren't this... REVEALING.
A week later, I was on Dylan Avery's page accusing him of being a Zionist agent.
Is this a habit? First with Alex Jones and now with Dylan Avery...
5 minutes after I posted my first comment I received a phone call from my Jewish friend, Zach.
AGAIN!!! Did you make any comments accusing other people of being Zionists between those two instances when Zach called?
I told myself it was just another coincidental call.
I must be honest. I'd start to get worried by that point. How did you pull it together?
A week after this I was on 9/11blogger accusing them of being Zionist agents.
Ah-ha... so it is a habit with you!
I was actually arguing with the people who run 9/11blogger in real time. It was about 1 AM in the morning. I received, yet another, coincidental phone call from Zach.
That's it... This proves that it's somehow connected... But how?!
At this point, I was starting to think Zach may be connected to Mussad somehow.
Because there's a connection between Mussad and Zionism? You post: "You're a Zionist" + "Zach calls right after" = "Mussad connection.."? (((OK)))
Zach and his older brother, Michael, where the kind Jews that liked to let you know they were Jewish.
Who cares if they are Jews, blacks, Christians, etc... People are people. There's nothing significant here. Something to keep in mind for next time: stick to the 'factoids' that directly influence your hypothesis.
They originally came from Brooklyn, NY. The first time I met Michael he made a comment about Steinbrenner being a Jew that always exploits the system in favor of the Yankees. To which I replied," Yeah, but everyone does that." Zach looked over at his brother and shook his head in approval of my statement. It was almost like his brother's comment about Jews was a test to see how I would react.
You're reading too much into it. I doubt it was that. But... Whatever.
My father is a federal agent for the DEA. Prior to his employment with the DEA, he was an investigator for the Department of Justice under Janet Reno. I started to suspect that maybe they were interested in me feeding information to him.
Why?
They don't like federal agents knowing about the corruption. So I decided to cut off communication with Zach completely when I moved out the duplex the next month. His phone calls seemed to be too coincidental to simply be a coincidence.
Were there more phone calls? You only wrote about two... Or three.
It's now July 2006. I was now working at a different restaurant because the pay was better. Zach was aware of this. Remember the guy "Chris," that I spoke of a few paragraphs back? He comes into the restaurant with a friend of his. I recognized him right away. He made sure I saw him. After he was finished eating, we started talking out front of the restaurant. He asked me," Have you talked to Zach lately?" I replied," No. It's been awhile." Yeah," I was just over at his place last week. He said you were working here. You should give him a call." I replied," Yeah, I do that. See ya later. Gotta get back to work." It was like he was trying to get me to reestablish contact with Zach. I hadn't spoke to Zach in about 2 months at this point. Keep in mind. Chris is the individual that claimed he dealt drugs for a mafia family in Dallas.
This is sooooooooooooo boring. By the way, I find it hard to believe how you remember all of this with such detail. Pot smoking affects memory. People who don't smoke pot would have a hard enough time remembering what they ate for breakfast yesterday.

I distinctly heard Zach saying," Hey. This song is terrible. It's about harming young children. That's terrible." Which relates to the theories surrounding Reptilian shape shifters.

I don't believe that anyone would take you seriously after those kind of - what should I call it? - 'linking'. This is why you haven't received many replies.
I didn't know this at that point and time.
And you still do not know it... You just don't know that you don't know... Perhaps you'll one day know what you don't know and then know what you do know...
Zach leaned over to Michael and started to whisper," Hey. Why don't you just beat the shit out of him? You get in bar fights all the time. Just kick the shit out him right now. I've seen you get in fights on cruise ships. Just beat the shit out of him."
He 'whispered', and yet, you heard all that!
When I witnessed Zach shape shift in his eyes, I wasn't aware of the fact that eyes could "shape shift."
How do you know you weren't hallucinating from a mild form of acid (marijuana) or that you don't have an underlying mental disorder, brain tumor, or it could have been merely an illusion (your brain playing a trick on you).
Does this sound familiar? It should. It was the same thing Zach did with me when I cut off communication with him and moved apartments. He sent Chris to my job to see what the problem was. I'm convinced Jay was interested in the subject of Reptilian shape shifters. He was being tracked by Zach just as I was. Starting to get the point yet?
Point about what? ...That you're a conspiracy-researching-Zionist-accusing-pot-smoking-myspace-troll, who, may have, undiscovered psychological issues? I'm aware of that. Thanks for sharing.
The Reptilians are doing this with a lot of people.
First of all, you don't know whether or not reptilians exist. I, on the other hand, know that reptilians don't exist.
Some of you are likely being monitored in the same way and you don't realize it.
Yeah... Talks! Maybe we should all wear baseball caps with aluminum foil underneath?
If you find Part I to be interesting, then pull up a chair. I haven't even reached to the good stuff yet. Part I was necessary to understand the really interesting stuff in Part II.


To be continued....................
It would take a special kind of person to find that interesting.
This is where things start to get bizarre. The employees at my new job started harassing me. They started making specific references to information pertaining to Reptilian shape shifters. However, I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED AN INTEREST IN THESE SUBJECTS!!!!!!!!
Have you ever heard of 'gang stalking'? Look it up. Do you think it's real? ...All I want to say about that is that it was real for me. The evidence was everywhere in much the same way that the evidence was/is everywhere for you. I made all sorts of crazy connections (just like you are doing). This only worsened my condition. I drank alcohol to deal with my intense anxiety. I even started 'going after' this group.

MEDICATION is a friend for anyone in need.
It was as if they could read my mind.
Don't go there.
Every memory, every secret, every thought can be attained by a Reptilian shape shifters.
I saw that episode on Supernatural. Good show.
It was as like the reptilians were warning me to back off.
Maybe you freaked those poor girls out by your incessant bug-eyed stare?
Most people just don't understand. Most preachers and religious people don't get the point either. I've tried talking to these guys. They don't get it. They don't understand that all of the negative problems are demonic. It's like a virus.
Like a “meme”?
There was a wall and a good amount of distance between us. There is no way they could have heard what we were talking about. Yet, I could clearly see them pointing over at us and arguing about it.
Perhaps they were wondering why you were chatting with a bum instead of working?
The manager comes walking around the corner and says," Hey David. Cmon. Let's go smoke a bowl outside." I replied,"Cool. Be ready in a minute.
How much weed did you smoke back then? Don't tell me you still smoke. If so, give it up. Trust me. Give it up and go get a mental evaluation.
However, because of the fact that I KNEW(not thought) that they were Reptilian shape shifters; I was able to tap into their telepathic conversations. This is why I was able to hear them make literally dozens of references to Reptilian information in their conversations. They were completely oblivious to the fact that I could hear them.
Did you just admit to hearing 'voices'? Yet another symptom to the growing list of symptoms.
These Reptilians didn't realize that I could hear them until I openly stated this on the internet in Feb. of 2008.
I see you still haven't learned your lesson.

Ok, I'm going to stop here... Oddly enough. Please let me know if I missed anything... significant... by not reading any further.



Kind regards,
Peter

onthefence123
04-12-2009, 12:29 AM
I realize how I constantly keep crossing... THAT LINE. The line that goes either against or for my favor. For some, I wouldn't be surprised if I seemed like a hopeless case. THE THING IS. I know how you people think. I have been there and I have comeback from it and I've seen what it can do to people.

Some of you will do your research, have fun, make friends, and you won't even care that that which you had been researching has just been proven as a lie because you were too busy learning and thinking of all the possibilities. You start with your eye on the ball and then you get distracted and lose focus. Sad.

I don't know why I even bother to give you so many chances.

Just prove me wrong with one thing. Make me work for it. I don't care. Just let me see that you could be actually right about any of the ... info that you have on this site. You know the info that I mean. Yes, that info! dsl22 type info.



A friend in the struggle,
Peter

Just get past all my BS and prove me wrong... Or right. Whichever.

onthefence123
04-12-2009, 12:34 AM
I find this thread/site to be incredibly frustrating.

Goodnight... Gentlemen.

...


Kind regards,
Peter

Ian2day
04-12-2009, 01:28 AM
I cannot be sure of any researcher of being authentic, if I am to be completely honest with you. I just know of a deceiver when I see one, and Wilcock is definitely a spoiled egg.

There is a section on researches here, and also a section dedicated to a guy that passed away by the name of Rick Clay(who was authentic). Stop by and read some reviews, but try to make the determination for yourself on most researches. Let your intuition guide you.


In fact the name Rik Clay and Ilkley Moor was a part of my programming. So I'm not sure just how authentic it all is. Also seeing a man wearing a Reptillian anamantronic head was programmed into me. In an attempt to have me act a certain way shall we say. Also a man running round with a bullhorn telling everyone that they have to wake up. This would imply that some of my mind control programming was carried out in 2001 and some more in 2004. Two different agencies at work perhaps. Both using me for the same reason. Oblivious to the others motives.

kingmob
04-12-2009, 02:00 AM
In fact the name Rik Clay and Ilkley Moor was a part of my programming. So I'm not sure just how authentic it all is. Also seeing a man wearing a Reptillian anamantronic head was programmed into me. In an attempt to have me act a certain way shall we say. Also a man running round with a bullhorn telling everyone that they have to wake up. This would imply that some of my mind control programming was carried out in 2001 and some more in 2004. Two different agencies at work perhaps. Both using me for the same reason. Oblivious to the others motives.

Sorry, but without knowing a bit more about you, I find your post a bit confusing.

And LOL at the troll trying to elicit a response.

lewi
04-12-2009, 02:09 AM
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-Jews-IsThisTheDavidIckeReptilian.jpg

dsl22
04-12-2009, 02:41 AM
Dsl22, are you planning on answering my questions any time soon? Let's not forget that I have answered yours. You should know, I only have a few more days left on here. After that, it's arrivederci!

Look, to be honest, we were both a little unfair to each other. You are the one who first started with your heavily ... account of what happened to you, and I, came on here and told you what I thought of it. So, if it makes up for anything, I would like to apologize for unknowingly being a bit of an a-hole. OK? (Forgive and forget)

I know where you and people who support you, stand. You people view yourselves as being above the deluded believers and the closed-minded nonbelievers (at truth seeking). Rightly so. I can see your logic and I agree. I am on your side whether you choose to recognize it or not. However - and this only has to do with a minor technicality - I do not allow myself to be completely opened to... info such as yours. And you'll soon find out why.

I will read a page of your personal account and I'll show you the problems as I see them.

Before I start reading, I would just like to comment that – if it is you (your photo) – you look like a really nice guy. Friendly. Honest. Boy next door type.

Book/cover. Whatever. We're all guilty of that from time to time.


Representatives from their species = Reptilian shape shifters? Or is one different from the other? Anyway, how can you be sure that it was either of those? These questions come to mind. If you have answered these questions further into your post then I will keep an eye out for the answers.

You being 100% sure doesn't prove anything to anyone.

If I was one of those of who you spoke of then I would be hessitant in sharing my story on the internet. After all, you may be working for them and picking off individuals who know. Possible? If reptilian shape shifters are possible then I'd say that my theory is also possible.

15yrs old, huh? I'm now sure that you have a lot of tallied research hours under your belt. This couls either work for you or against you.

Don't mind me... I'm just having a little bit of fun because you're making me read this story (or personal account).

Look at the way you spelled David Icke's name (in above quote).

For the uninformed, where is the coincidence? Please spell it out. And is this when it all... began?

I was expecting you to set the stage. So... you were lying in bed and you just happened to be looking at the sky and there they were... UFO's? ...Lights? ...Fireflies?

Maybe it was some being's lucky night?

Are you by any chance synchronizing those two events; 2 small bright lights that became one... bigger (?) ... bright light + contact with first reptilian hybrid? Now I want to find out how you knew – when most people would miss – that this was for sure a reptilian hybrid? Oh... I get it... They somehow knew about you seeing those 2 bright lights!

I was under the impression that you didn't want to keep these things private.

*Puff*

OMG...The 2nd coincidence! It's all starting to come together now.

Why the heck would anybody that you just met tell you this? Unbelievable, as usual.

For a young pothead you sure do have a lot of time on your hands. Between school, work, going out, etc... How do you find the time for all this? Ahhh... perhaps it's a school project?

Do you always believe everything you read? That would explain a lot about you. And you just admitted to 'trolling' Alex Jones' myspace page. Hmmm... Tell me you see the synchronicity between us. Hint: you went on a forum making unsubstantiated claims about someone's dirty secret and I'm coming on here in much the same manner. Sort of.

That's because it was a coincidence. So, what did Zach have to say? “Dude, got any ganja?”
I really hope that the rest of your posts aren't this... REVEALING.

Is this a habit? First with Alex Jones and now with Dylan Avery...

AGAIN!!! Did you make any comments accusing other people of being Zionists between those two instances when Zach called?

I must be honest. I'd start to get worried by that point. How did you pull it together?

Ah-ha... so it is a habit with you!

That's it... This proves that it's somehow connected... But how?!

Because there's a connection between Mussad and Zionism? You post: "You're a Zionist" + "Zach calls right after" = "Mussad connection.."? (((OK)))

Who cares if they are Jews, blacks, Christians, etc... People are people. There's nothing significant here. Something to keep in mind for next time: stick to the 'factoids' that directly influence your hypothesis.

You're reading too much into it. I doubt it was that. But... Whatever.

Why?

Were there more phone calls? You only wrote about two... Or three.

This is sooooooooooooo boring. By the way, I find it hard to believe how you remember all of this with such detail. Pot smoking affects memory. People who don't smoke pot would have a hard enough time remembering what they ate for breakfast yesterday.


I don't believe that anyone would take you seriously after those kind of - what should I call it? - 'linking'. This is why you haven't received many replies.

And you still do not know it... You just don't know that you don't know... Perhaps you'll one day know what you don't know and then know what you do know...

He 'whispered', and yet, you heard all that!

How do you know you weren't hallucinating from a mild form of acid (marijuana) or that you don't have an underlying mental disorder, brain tumor, or it could have been merely an illusion (your brain playing a trick on you).

Point about what? ...That you're a conspiracy-researching-Zionist-accusing-pot-smoking-myspace-troll, who, may have, undiscovered psychological issues? I'm aware of that. Thanks for sharing.

First of all, you don't know whether or not reptilians exist. I, on the other hand, know that reptilians don't exist.

Yeah... Talks! Maybe we should all wear baseball caps with aluminum foil underneath?

It would take a special kind of person to find that interesting.

Have you ever heard of 'gang stalking'? Look it up. Do you think it's real? ...All I want to say about that is that it was real for me. The evidence was everywhere in much the same way that the evidence was/is everywhere for you. I made all sorts of crazy connections (just like you are doing). This only worsened my condition. I drank alcohol to deal with my intense anxiety. I even started 'going after' this group.

MEDICATION is a friend for anyone in need.

Don't go there.

I saw that episode on Supernatural. Good show.

Maybe you freaked those poor girls out by your incessant bug-eyed stare?

Like a “meme”?

Perhaps they were wondering why you were chatting with a bum instead of working?

How much weed did you smoke back then? Don't tell me you still smoke. If so, give it up. Trust me. Give it up and go get a mental evaluation.

Did you just admit to hearing 'voices'? Yet another symptom to the growing list of symptoms.

I see you still haven't learned your lesson.

Ok, I'm going to stop here... Oddly enough. Please let me know if I missed anything... significant... by not reading any further.



Kind regards,
Peter

WOW! That's fucking amazing! How much are you getting paid? You should ask for a raise. That's the longest troll post I've ever seen. Incredible.

BRAVO! My hat is off to you, kind sir. That's some impressive work right there. Unfortunately, you've been rude and insulting to all the members of the forum. Not just me. If you would have been more polite and rational, I would have been happy to address your questions. However, your constant ad-hominen attacks on EVERYONE on this forum is going to have to force me to not respond. Your efforts are fruitless. I can't spend all day running in circles with you. No matter what answer I give to this outrageous list of questions, you will just find some way to disagree and insult me personally.

Have a great day Peter Peter pumpkin eater.

:D

dsl22
04-12-2009, 03:14 AM
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-Jews-IsThisTheDavidIckeReptilian.jpg

"All I get from your story is an anti-simmetic vibe."

Why? Criticism of Israel is political opinion. Plus, we are talking about Reptilian Shape Shifters. Not Jews. Certain aspects pertain to Israel, but other aspects pertain to the United States, Britain, etc. How is that anti-simmetic?

That's the first time I've ever seen that suggested on one of my threads. :)

onthefence123
04-12-2009, 03:46 AM
No, Dsl22, you have not answered my questions because if you took the time to answer then you would run the risk of getting exposed. Now you obviously wouldn't want that.

You used all the typical tricks in the book against me. I KNOW for a fact the you are a fraud. Either you're severely deluded or you're lying. In both of those cases you are still a fraud and will remain a fraud to any rational person.

Just remember that you only have a few lonely supporters. Means nothing. You're not fooling anyone with an IQ greater than 80.

Get some real proof by honestly answering questions, to yourself for now, similar to those that I posted in my previous posts. You must realize that with some minor BS came a few very helpful tips from me to you. Your welcome, pal!

Your thread is really just a pathetic attempt at trying to prove to yourself that your former friends were... in fact... Reptilians (lol) ...I can't believe I just thought that! No way, you can't be THAT deluded. This has to be something else. Like a University project or something.

As for me insulting other people... What... Are you a child or something? I was only having a little fun and so were they. No harm intended. And besides, I kinda liked it when they did it to me - it cheered me up! (tickle-tickle)

Oh and btw, one of your supporters had the decency to call me a dark force! (lol)

Just get some help or make sure to tell these poor people the truth by the end of this farce!


Kind regards,
Peter peter pumpkin eater!

leviathanstaar
04-12-2009, 03:52 AM
Actually no, nevermind.

lewi
04-12-2009, 04:00 AM
"All I get from your story is an anti-simmetic vibe."

Why? Criticism of Israel is political opinion. Plus, we are talking about Reptilian Shape Shifters. Not Jews. Certain aspects pertain to Israel, but other aspects pertain to the United States, Britain, etc. How is that anti-simmetic?

That's the first time I've ever seen that suggested on one of my threads. :)
All you do is point out that the alien called Zach (who is jewish) became your best friend and shapeshifted infront of your eyes, also you said that your room mate made a derogative statement while your alien jewish friend was over, statements that must also be made while he isnt in your company or else where would this belittling stem from ?? Not only that but your father the DEA agent the very DEA that initiated the domentic marijuana eradication/suppression program while he allows his son to smoke marijuana and hangs about with an alien shapeshifting drug dealer .. who like you point out time and time again is jewish in part 1.

Now its only an opinion but you also attack Alex Jones for being a Zoinist agent which is unproven i mean what do you have agasint Zionism as they are just Jewish people who wish for sovereignty and only want to return to there homeland that in mind why attack others ??

Also you spell David Icke's Name as David DICKE .. (David Dick) What a Nice touch to your thread care to explain why you do this ?

metacomet
04-12-2009, 04:07 AM
I find this thread/site to be incredibly frustrating.

Goodnight... Gentlemen.

...


Kind regards,
Peter

... If this were my thread I definitely wouldn't waste time responding.

You're a wind up toy, here to provoke responses and then ignore them... a troll. Very suspicious behavior to be so intent on disrupting another persons thread, if he is in fact, so unbelievable.

kingmob
04-12-2009, 04:14 AM
All you do is point out that the alien called Zach (who is jewish) became your best friend and shapeshifted infront of your eyes also you said that your room mate made a derogative statement while your alien jewish friend was over statements that must also be made while he isnt in your company or else where would this belittling stem from not only that but your father the DEA agent the very DEA that initiated the domentic marijuana eradication/suppression program while he allows his son to smoke marijuana and hangs about with an alien shapeshifting drug dealer who like you point out time and time again is jewish in part 1.

Now its only an opinion but you also attack Alex Jones for being a Zoinist agent which is unproven i mean what do you have agasint Zionism as they are just Jewish people who wish for sovereignty and only want to return to there homeland that in mind why attack others ?

Also you spell David Icke's Name as David DICKE (David Dick) what a Nice touch to your thread care to explain ?


I'll let dsl defend himself...but damn. Can you write in comprehensible language? Its confusing as hell, without any meaningfull direction. Half of your sentenses are just a mess man, and you are making up a bunch of balloney as you type. Its like one big run on sentense with no structure.

lewi
04-12-2009, 04:24 AM
I'll let dsl defend himself...but damn. Can you write in comprehensible language? Its confusing as hell, without any meaningfull direction. Half of your sentenses are just a mess man, and you are making up a bunch of balloney as you type. Its like one big run on sentense with no structure.
Sorry, are you an english teacher by any chance ??

dsl22
04-12-2009, 04:26 AM
All you do is point out that the alien called Zach (who is jewish) became your best friend and shapeshifted infront of your eyes also you said that your room mate made a derogative statement while your alien jewish friend was over statements that must also be made while he isnt in your company or else where would this belittling stem from not only that but your father the DEA agent the very DEA that initiated the domentic marijuana eradication/suppression program while he allows his son to smoke marijuana and hangs about with an alien shapeshifting drug dealer who like you point out time and time again is jewish in part 1.

Now its only an opinion but you also attack Alex Jones for being a Zoinist agent which is unproven i mean what do you have agasint Zionism as they are just Jewish people who wish for sovereignty and only want to return to there homeland that in mind why attack others ?

Also you spell David Icke's Name as David DICKE (David Dick) what a Nice touch to your thread care to explain ?

If you read more closely, you will also see that I retracted my claims about Alex Jones. I believed that, at the time, but not anymore.

The fact that Zach is Jewish pertains to the theories presented by Reptilian eye witnesses and whistle blowers. Stewart Swerdlow claims that these Reptilian hybrids have genetics that are distinguishable from other human beings. He says the Khazar Jews contained these Reptilian genetics, after the ancient Sumerians. Zach was a Khazar Jew. That is the relevance. Are you having trouble understanding this?

Swerdlow mentions the Khazar connection at 1:17.

Freeman Stewart Swerdlow - YouTube

This claim made by Swerdlow is particularly interesting, when taking into consideration that the first person I witnessed shape shift was a Khazar Jew. It is even more interesting when taking into consideration the fact that I have Khazar genetics running through my veins. Which I have yet to mention in this thread.

My great grandmother on my mother's side has the maiden name,"Fisher." My great, great grandfather on my father's side has the last name "Fisher," as well. Nobody in my family has been a practicing Jew. However, the name "Fisher" is a fairly common Jewish name. Which would likely mean that I have Khazar genetics in my blood. According to Swerdlows claims, I basically have this Reptilian genetic code contained within my genetics.

Which could also be a possible explanation about why these people are paying so much attention to me. They could be after my genetics, for some reason. According to Icke's theories, Princess Diana was used for breeding because of her genetics. Maybe something similar is taking place here. Which would also explain why they haven't harmed me. Due to the fact that I could be of some kind of use to them. Not all Khazar Jews are Reptilian Shape Shifters, but the claims Swerdlow makes line up with my experiences. That is the relevance of mentioning the Jewish aspect to these theories. It had nothing to do with antisemitism.

As for the David "DIcke" spelling. That wasn't me. The forum on godlike productions.com changes "Icke" to "DIcke" automatically, when you type it. I copy pasted this entire thread from that forum. That's why the spelling errors are present.

kingmob
04-12-2009, 05:33 AM
Sorry, are you an english teacher by any chance ??

No, but I do speak english. Would you like a lesson?

lewi
04-12-2009, 10:26 AM
No, but I do speak english. Would you like a lesson?
No thanks .. i just wish the sentence police would leave bloggers alone.

jakob_lemy_zook
04-12-2009, 10:52 PM
The Reptilians keep escalating the mind games in this area of York and Lancaster, Pa ground zero for the Project Monarch Mind control game and experimentation. A Reptilian eugenics nightmare called Chronis put all the workers to sleep at the Delta Peach Bottom Nuke plant around a year and half ago. I knew they would eventually escalate the game playing and now 3 mile Island a few miles away has another incident with leaked radiation. They blew up 3 buildings coming up from underground from the city of York last year supposedly from natural gas. They still haven't explained how this could have happened. The sewer caps blew up in the air on Market street last year also. Their are earthquakes beginning in this area that the scientists "think" are caused by the underground coal mines caving in. Their is no official explanation. What's going on is rogue elements and the Reptilians are caving in the Monarch Tunnels that extend from the Aberdeen Military base in Maryland, extending out to Lancaster and up to the Harrisburg Mental Institution and out the underground military base in Gettysburg, (ground zero for the underground Monarch cages). Harrisburg has recently closed down because of controversy. There are around 16 miles of tunnels directly surrounding the Harrisburg State Institution. Anyway, the game playing is now escalating with "Chronis" with the Nuke plants in the area. It's a game in mind control and non-lethal warfare. And the powers that be still think this is good and will benefit us all in future worth all the collateral damage being done. Jakob Lemy Zook, Trumpet Templar. http://www.paranormalcinema.com/trumpet-templar

onthefence123
05-12-2009, 12:24 AM
Let's think realistically for a change. Shall we? Now, let's proceed in a cautionary manner...

According to Swerdlows claims, I basically have this Reptilian genetic code contained within my genetics.
In another time and country, there would be people claiming that I had the devil in me and should go through an exorcism. There was evidence in those days proving that exorcisms work and are necessary. For one, and perhaps the most relevant factor, people experienced it to be true. What greater evidence could one ask for? And yet, with all that evidence and experience, they were... wrong.

Delusions may have dire consequences (type "Real Exorcism of Anneliese Michel" into a search engine if the bottom link doesn't work):

Real Exorcism of Anneliese Michel - YouTube

Now, most people know that people suffering from mental illness do not have demons harboring within them. People with schizophrenia, for instance, have an over-production of dopamine (a neurotransmitter) in the brain, and this, makes us over-think and jump to conclusions too quickly.
Are you having trouble understanding this?
first person I witnessed shape shift was a Khazar Jew.
Hallucination. Look it up in the dictionary. OK... Fine... if you don't want to do some worthwhile research then I'll assist you:
Hallucinations are distortions or exaggerations of perception in any of the senses, although auditory hallucinations (�hearing voices� within, distinct from one�s own thoughts) are the most common, followed by visual hallucinations.
Folks, this stuff really does occur in reality. Mental illness does not discriminate. Get checked!
could also be a possible explanation about why these people are paying so much attention to me.
Another claim that people who aren't medicated, but should be, make, is they believe that everyone is talking and looking at them. This can be scary for anyone. That is why I sympathize with your situation.
They could be after my genetics, for some reason.
Really? I better not get a blood test............................. Eek!

Out of all the opportunities they had while you were stoned out of your mind, they still haven't gotten it? Hmmm... Maybe they need your permission? One more question: why would they need it if (get your head out of the gutter) they created us? (isn't that the most fashionable theory among ... these days?) Oh yeah... they... created us in the same way the you put a seed into a pot to create a plant... and... for generations (or centuries!) they have been monitoring us as we were procreating (maybe even sneaking a peek) and in turn creating - for their examination - a new (and improved?) gene combination. Hmmm... couldn't they get a clue and do all this quickly in a lab?
According to Icke's theories, Princess Diana was used for breeding because of her genetics. Maybe something similar is taking place here.
Hey, dsl22... I heard (as you may have heard) that they created us. So... (out of all the questions that you must have answered for yourself) can you explain to me why exactly they would need any of our special genetics? Oh, and yes, everyone on this planet has genetics that are special and uniquely their own. Even identical twins may have slightly different genes because of genetic mutation throughout life.
Which would also explain why they haven't harmed me. Due to the fact that I could be of some kind of use to them.
Oh yeah... this proves why they haven't killed you. They need you intact. For some reason unknown to us. After all, you have super-special-genes! Lucky you... Or not.
the claims Swerdlow makes line up with my experiences.
Claims are wrong. Experiences are wrong. Reality, however, is never wrong.
As for the David "DIcke" spelling. That wasn't me. The forum on godlike productions.com changes "Icke" to "DIcke" automatically, when you type it. I copy pasted this entire thread from that forum. That's why the spelling errors are present

Hmmm... That's only one, out of many, possibilities. Maybe someone should check that out (*sign* ...by going over to that forum and posting: "David Icke" ...Further?). In any case, I did find it strange when I first saw that. Unlike him. Whoever he is.

By the why, I'm not a troll. But even trolls have their value.


Kind regards,
Peter

PS - I find it amazing how almost no one seems to be challenging your claims. Perhaps they brush it off as your experience. What then does that do? It opens them up to fantastical thinking. Not good.

jakob_lemy_zook
05-12-2009, 01:01 AM
What you say is true. But, this is a different time and place. Technology has advanced to levels you most likely now nothing about. Most people don't. I can get all the parts I need at Radio Shack to make a simple mind control device. I can make you angry. I can make you happy. Can put false memories and thoughts into your mind. Your right about the past. But, this is now and the future.


Let's think realistically for a change. Shall we? Now, let's proceed in a cautionary manner...


In another time and country, there would be people claiming that I had the devil in me and should go through an exorcism. There was evidence in those days proving that exorcisms work and are necessary. For one, and perhaps the most relevant factor, people experienced it to be true. What greater evidence could one ask for? And yet, with all that evidence and experience, they were... wrong.


Delusions may have dire consequences (type "Real Exorcism of Anneliese Michel" into a search engine if the bottom link doesn't work):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4n9vK0_mdk

Now, most people know that people suffering from mental illness do not have demons harboring within them. People with schizophrenia, for instance, have an over-production of dopamine (a neurotransmitter) in the brain, and this, makes us over-think and jump to conclusions too quickly.


Hallucination. Look it up in the dictionary. OK... Fine... if you don't want to do some worthwhile research then I'll assist you:

Folks, this stuff really does occur in reality. Mental illness does not discriminate. Get checked!

Another claim that people who aren't medicated, but should be, make, is they believe that everyone is talking and looking at them. This can be scary for anyone. That is why I sympathize with your situation.

Really? I better not get a blood test............................. Eek!

Out of all the opportunities they had while you were stoned out of your mind, they still haven't gotten it? Hmmm... Maybe they need your permission? One more question: why would they need it if (get your head out of the gutter) they created us? (isn't that the most fashionable theory among ... these days?) Oh yeah... they... created us in the same way the you put a seed into a pot to create a plant... and... for generations (or centuries!) they have been monitoring us as we were procreating (maybe even sneaking a peek) and in turn creating - for their examination - a new (and improved?) gene combination. Hmmm... couldn't they get a clue and do all this quickly in a lab?

Hey, dsl22... I heard (as you may have heard) that they created us. So... (out of all the questions that you must have answered for yourself) can you explain to me why exactly they would need any of our special genetics? Oh, and yes, everyone on this planet has genetics that are special and uniquely their own. Even identical twins may have slightly different genes because of genetic mutation throughout life.

Oh yeah... this proves why they haven't killed you. They need you intact. For some reason unknown to us. After all, you have super-special-genes! Lucky you... Or not.

Claims are wrong. Experiences are wrong. Reality, however, is never wrong.

Hmmm... That's only one, out of many, possibilities. Maybe someone should check that out (*sign* ...by going over to that forum and posting: "David Icke" ...Further?). In any case, I did find it strange when I first saw that. Unlike him. Whoever he is.

By the why, I'm not a troll. But even trolls have their value.


Kind regards,
Peter

PS - I find it amazing how almost no one seems to be challenging your claims. Perhaps they brush it off as your experience. What then does that do? It opens them up to fantastical thinking. Not good.