"Lower" dimensions, astral beings, spirit contact?

[veritasvoice]

Anyone on here knowledgeable in this that would like to contribute to this thread?

Especially in terms of defending against them?

I see this emerging as a common theme the deeper you get into the NWO agenda; and contact/worship with other-dimensional intelligence has been something that has been a common theme running through every empire on Earth: including the British Empire when you consider how it was influenced by John Dee, theosophy and spiritualism.

[lady_oblivion]

Have you ever contacting them yourself? I have and i have had no problems with them, I find if you approach an eniity with respect and lose the fear then you shouldnt have any problems. If you need to defend your self, set up energy barriers and the like or simply dont go looking for them.

[marpat]

Anyone on here knowledgeable in this that would like to contribute to this thread?

Especially in terms of defending against them?

I see this emerging as a common theme the deeper you get into the NWO agenda; and contact/worship with other-dimensional intelligence has been something that has been a common theme running through every empire on Earth: including the British Empire when you consider how it was influenced by John Dee, theosophy and spiritualism.

who is to say that theosophy and enochian systems are anything to do with the lower astral? dont forget that even David Icke was contacted by a spirit during a drug induced trance.

The best way to avoid the attracting any spirit is to live in a way that repels it.

Here is a link to a free ebook on psychic defence. Look down the Dion Fortune page for Psychic Self Defence. Really good book.:

http://www.occult-underground.com/fortune.html

[j35p3r4d0]

on the lower astral levels (red phase) you're mainly gunna get spiritual manifestations relating to lower order human/otherwise thought programs.

Things to do with anger, love, more basic/fundamental energetic resonances.

These constructs do not hold against more enlightened spiritual defences or entities due to their fallibility, although they can hold great energy about them.

In regards to those spiritual defences, the most primary is your inherent energy, meaning that if you're not facilitating such wavelengths consciously, you shouldn't have much problem defusing them naturally through your own shifting energies as you move to a more positive state.

In terms of concious control though, aside from visualisation techniques which serve to shift the concious perception and attraction, some form of energetic ability is useful to direct against such entities in an offensive/defensive manner.

To destroy a negative entity, you must utilise positive energy to neutralise said entity; Or, rather, you CAN, most effectively, but again, this simply involves the embodiment of a positive personal notion that counteracts the influence felt with your own inherent energies.


This is where you burgeon upon meta-programming, because the most effective way to change your own energy is unconsciously, by simply moving onto something else mentally. However, if you are able to utilise something to send you in that direction, you can consciously inflect upon that changing natural unconscious state.


The lowest astral 'realm' is like a big, angry, sex-feud, full of energy of a less understanding element. The elementary components of the overall subconscious make-up. Lift your being, lift your understanding, and these things lose their effect.


That said, no malignancy can harm your mind-state if you have a positive notion about you. Simply because you will not engage upon such a concious resonance. Kinda like how nothing bad will happen to you physically, unless you step out onto the road in front of a truck.

Keep it positive, in heart and mind, you should be fine.



Aside from all this, if you really want to get astral vigilante, you're gunna have to use some advanced imaginative projection techniques and concious expansion, or just become so positive you deter all energies of that inertial motion.

[marpat]

A type of energy or plane is evil according to its state of balance not whether it is higher or lower. People go on about the lower astral being full of nasty things but this is not accurate. Even the bible speaks of spiritual evil in high places. Dont make the mistake of thinking that nasties only exist right at the bottom.

[j35p3r4d0]

yeah, they don't always,
but your chances at malignancy are greatly increased (in a negative sense) the more basic you get, in terms of coherent intelligence.

[j35p3r4d0]

also the bible is a crap source of information.

a state of balance that extends from a negative to positive replicates well in an abstract hierarchical sense (without lording your feudal produce from you).

that which is negative detracts and encompasses, that which is positive constructs and initiates.

therefore, the more energetic something is, the more over-ruling, the more positive it must be to do so, simply because it requires that active energy unto itself.

eg: lowest astral emotional/sexual/animalism

...may be be a good thing, but it lacks the energetic resonance to supersede itself to a greater extent, unless amalgamated beyond itself. That which is beyond is not always above, friend.

eg: The higher celestial spiritual levels

... things like extra-temporal soul right, informational physics at an eternal level, while not being overly positive, are greatly beyond the scope of the lower astral, and they do indeed tend not to carry on the hallmarks of the lower levels.

They are lowest because they form a foundation, closest to material reality. That doesn't make them evil, that makes them negative, and the things that exist within them must fight against that to surmount them.

[veritasvoice]

who is to say that theosophy and enochian systems are anything to do with the lower astral? dont forget that even David Icke was contacted by a spirit during a drug induced trance.

I didn't say they were related. ;)

I would classify Enochian magic, theosophy and spiritualism as "contact with other-dimensional intelligence" though. :)

Thanks for the link to Fortune's book, will read it tonight.

[fekdemasons]

also the bible is a crap source of information.

a state of balance that extends from a negative to positive replicates well in an abstract hierarchical sense (without lording your feudal produce from you).

that which is negative detracts and encompasses, that which is positive constructs and initiates.

therefore, the more energetic something is, the more over-ruling, the more positive it must be to do so, simply because it requires that active energy unto itself.

eg: lowest astral emotional/sexual/animalism

...may be be a good thing, but it lacks the energetic resonance to supersede itself to a greater extent, unless amalgamated beyond itself. That which is beyond is not always above, friend.

eg: The higher celestial spiritual levels

... things like extra-temporal soul right, informational physics at an eternal level, while not being overly positive, are greatly beyond the scope of the lower astral, and they do indeed tend not to carry on the hallmarks of the lower levels.

They are lowest because they form a foundation, closest to material reality. That doesn't make them evil, that makes them negative, and the things that exist within them must fight against that to surmount them.

" also the bible is a crap source of information. " :D:D:D