View Full Version : 9/11 third tower mystery 'solved'
keithm
25-07-2009, 11:07 PM
now this really is taking the piss.
The final mystery of 9/11 will soon be solved, according to US experts investigating the collapse of the third tower at the World Trade Center.
The 47-storey third tower, known as Tower Seven, collapsed seven hours after the twin towers.
Investigators are expected to say ordinary fires on several different floors caused the collapse.
Conspiracy theorists have argued that the third tower was brought down in a controlled demolition.
Unlike the twin towers, Tower Seven was not hit by a plane.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7485331.stm
leviathanstaar
25-07-2009, 11:10 PM
lol @ bbc
They hate you if you arent stupid.
They hate you if you are.
dave52
25-07-2009, 11:16 PM
They've got to go for the fires excuse because the only other logical explanation, avoiding demolition, would be damage from falling debris. But this would cause an uneven collapse, therefore they're sticking with the fires lie..
boowatts
26-07-2009, 12:37 AM
I had a look at this too but it is a piece from last year, it seems to have made the most read list though which suggests this one just isn't going to go away for them! I think the constant lies are cracking and more and more so-called everyday people are seeing it for the farce it is and the disgusting lack of respect for those that died. I'd love to live in a world where those responsible for it are given the consequences of their actions, fingers crossed it will happen in our lifetimes and we can see love as the real agenda.
graflok
26-07-2009, 01:07 AM
There seems to be no end to the bullshit they can come up with to "explain"
their smoking guns. :rolleyes:
lupus
26-07-2009, 06:21 AM
No mention in the report of the bbc reporting it collapse while it still stood behind the reporter either :rolleyes:
boowatts
26-07-2009, 01:51 PM
No mention in the report of the bbc reporting it collapse while it still stood behind the reporter either :rolleyes:
There is if you look on the foot notes at the side of the piece it takes you to Mike Rudin's blogs, it mentions the contradictory footage but is pretty non comittal in explaining how they managed to predict its collapse!!
turbine
26-07-2009, 04:30 PM
lol
Their program on the 7/7 conspiracy was full of enought shit let alone this.
Shills.
frase
26-07-2009, 04:36 PM
I had a look at this too but it is a piece from last year, it seems to have made the most read list though which suggests this one just isn't going to go away for them! I think the constant lies are cracking and more and more so-called everyday people are seeing it for the farce it is and the disgusting lack of respect for those that died. I'd love to live in a world where those responsible for it are given the consequences of their actions, fingers crossed it will happen in our lifetimes and we can see love as the real agenda.
Has anyone tried writing to the BEEB about this?
don't they have to respond to every lette rthey get?
I think I have a good reason to stop paying the licence fee as they are complicit in covering up mass murder...
The evidence is staggering....
Check out The Jane Standley videos, the first when she reports the collapase,then late ron when the satellite suddenly drops.....mmmmmm fancy that!
What about Phil hayton here who forgot he was at work on 9/11!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMlFFQ2oqQ
frase
26-07-2009, 04:39 PM
There is if you look on the foot notes at the side of the piece it takes you to Mike Rudin's blogs, it mentions the contradictory footage but is pretty non comittal in explaining how they managed to predict its collapse!!
To this day they haven't offered a valid explanation!!
Building 7 in any other city would have been the largest building in that city!!Huge!
BBC FUCKING LIARS.....DISGRACE.
They cut Silverstein off in his quote too....
I am writing a lette, I urge you to do the same.
They are complicit in a cover up and accessories to murder.
kriss_crow
29-07-2009, 02:34 AM
To this day they haven't offered a valid explanation!!
Building 7 in any other city would have been the largest building in that city!!Huge!
BBC FUCKING LIARS.....DISGRACE.
Wait, wait. They also say there:
However, a group of architects, engineers and scientists say the official explanation that fires caused the collapse is impossible. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth argue there must have been a controlled demolition.
The founder of the group, Richard Gage, says the collapse of the third tower is an obvious example of a controlled demolition using explosives.
"Building Seven is the smoking gun of 9/11. A sixth grader can look at this building falling at virtually freefall speed, symmetrically and smoothly, and see that it is not a natural process.
"Buildings that fall in natural processes fall to the path of least resistance", says Gage, "they don't go straight down through themselves."
There are a number of facts that have encouraged conspiracy theories about Tower Seven.
* Although its collapse potentially made architectural history, all of the thousands of tonnes of steel from the skyscraper were taken away to be melted down.
* The third tower was occupied by the Secret Service, the CIA, the Department of Defence and the Office of Emergency Management, which would co-ordinate any response to a disaster or a terrorist attack.
* The destruction of the third tower was never mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report. The first official inquiry into Tower Seven by the Federal Emergency Management Agency was unable to be definitive about what caused its collapse.
* In May 2002 FEMA concluded that the building collapsed because intense fires had burned for hours, fed by thousands of gallons of diesel stored in the building. But it said this had "only a low probability of occurrence" and more work was needed.
Which is quite sweet for regime media to mention it, isn't it? ;]
montag
30-07-2009, 05:39 AM
now this really is taking the piss.
The final mystery of 9/11 will soon be solved, according to US experts investigating the collapse of the third tower at the World Trade Center.
The 47-storey third tower, known as Tower Seven, collapsed seven hours after the twin towers.
Investigators are expected to say ordinary fires on several different floors caused the collapse.
Conspiracy theorists have argued that the third tower was brought down in a controlled demolition.
Unlike the twin towers, Tower Seven was not hit by a plane.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7485331.stm
Wow thats amazing, you know they've also discovered how the twin towers collapsed when the fire was not hot enough to melt steel, it was due to magnetic forces. Fuck I feel dumb now for believing all of those whacky conspiracy theories..:o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/magnetic-forces-to-blame-for-911-tower-collapse-924509.html
I think the most compelling part of this is that whenever I ask people I know how many buildings came down on 911 they always say the twin towers. Hardly anyone I know that doesn't have an interest in 911 conspiracy theories even realises that another building fell within itself that day. When I tell them they usually are shocked but then their own cognitive dissonance from being so blind tends to block them from invesitgating further, as they often don't want to even comprehend how sheltered they are from the truth. They turn on the TV and go back to sleep.
tabea_blumenschein
30-07-2009, 07:11 AM
Wow thats amazing, you know they've also discovered how the twin towers collapsed when the fire was not hot enough to melt steel, it was due to magnetic forces. Fuck I feel dumb now for believing all of those whacky conspiracy theories..:o
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/magnetic-forces-to-blame-for-911-tower-collapse-924509.html
The fact that steel is significantly weaker at 500 degrees Celsius is a "well, DUH!" statement for physics and engineering types. After all, heat weakening and thermal expansion of materials have only been studied for a few hundred years now.
I believe Sergei Dudarev is merely offering research to help better explain why steel weakens as it gets hotter, which would be interesting to know. This research obviously wasn't conducted to "explain" why several buildings collapsed, although the article makes it appear that way. Steel, being composed mostly of iron, has magnetic domains in it, so it wouldn't surprise me that heat-weakening could be due to magnetic fluctuations due to increasing temperature.
Sergei Dudarev, of the UK Atomic Energy Agency, found that steel loses its strength above 500C because its molecules undergo a physical transition from one state to another due to magnetic fluctuations.
Do we understand one another, truthers? The research was to help explain why a material loses its strength as it gets hotter, not an attempt to explain why a building collapsed.
size_of_light
30-07-2009, 07:33 AM
"It's a very complex problem. It requires a level of fidelity in the modelling and rigour in the analysis that has never been done before."
I bet it does. Getting the computer simulation to demonstrate how the laws of physics didn't apply to Building 7 takes time.
Other skyscrapers haven't fully collapsed before because of fire. But NIST argues that what happened on 9/11 was unique.
Sad assholes complicit in mass murder.
tabea_blumenschein
30-07-2009, 08:25 AM
"It's a very complex problem. It requires a level of fidelity in the modelling and rigour in the analysis that has never been done before."
I bet it does. Getting the computer simulation to demonstrate how the laws of physics didn't apply to Building 7 takes time.
Other skyscrapers haven't fully collapsed before because of fire. But NIST argues that what happened on 9/11 was unique.
Sad assholes complicit in mass murder.
Thank you, size_of_light, for providing such a prompt and timely proof of something I just got done saying on another thread:
Just like a truther. Accuse the thousands and thousands of good, decent and caring men and women (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/someoftheagencies%2Corganizationsandindivi) who responded to the 9/11 tragedy of being liars, dupes or shills for a shadowy network of "elites" bent on world domination. Accuse anyone of anything without so much as a twinge of guilt just to protect your precious delusional fantasies.
size_of_light
31-07-2009, 08:04 AM
Thank you, size_of_light, for providing such a prompt and timely proof of something I just got done saying on another thread:
Are you expecting me to respond?
runciter
31-07-2009, 08:55 AM
Are you expecting me to respond?
no, just feel guilty and enjoy your contrition.
ronisron
31-07-2009, 04:11 PM
No mention in the report of the bbc reporting it collapse while it still stood behind the reporter either :rolleyes:
:D
Oh come on, she was rehearsing is all....
Yes, fires fell yet another skyscraper, in under 10 seconds, straight down into it's own footprint. All firsts, all impossible, all on 9/11/01. This isn't Roswell revisions, and this isn't going away. Shame on the BBC, again.