Lance Armstrong

[triotec]

Why didnt Lance win Tour de France this year? Was it because he was not doped? Does this mean he was doped when he won seven times in a row? It was never proved that he was doped, though the suspicions were heavy, or was Lance just too smart for the dopehunters?

[chris]

The tour de france is one of the most prolific sports for PEDs. Of course he dopes, I don't know why he lost but I very much doubt he eased off on his drug takings, if he did, his natural testosterone making abilities are so low, that he would have lost so much muscle, he couldn't have competed.

His heart is twice the size of an average humans, this is a classic sign of steroid abuse.

[jaggysnake]

Why didnt Lance win Tour de France this year? Was it because he was not doped? Does this mean he was doped when he won seven times in a row? It was never proved that he was doped, though the suspicions were heavy, or was Lance just too smart for the dopehunters?

somebody told me in a conversation a while ago, so this is just an opinion, but I was told he never carried on with olympic cycling because of the stricter drug testing, and he managed a way to beat the tour de france testing. Don't know how accurate that is at all though.

[triotec]

somebody told me in a conversation a while ago, so this is just an opinion, but I was told he never carried on with olympic cycling because of the stricter drug testing, and he managed a way to beat the tour de france testing. Don't know how accurate that is at all though.

Well, I am convinced that he used drug to win, there is no way any man can win year after year. Let us all be aware that he had people who helped him, powerful people with lots of money!

[snakehips33]

Maybe the fact that the guy is now 38 and has been out of the sport for three years is the reason he hasn't won it. I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about doping in sport. Are you trying to say that Lance Armstrong is on drugs but none of the other top riders are? Don't be so naive, no matter what the Tour de France is probably the toughest test in sport and you should realise that these guys are supremely fit and there bodies are different than most humans anyway. Miguel Indurain had a heart beat of 25 beats per minute and their lung capacities are also much greater than the average bloke on the street because of the amount of training they do, don't forget that cyclists are in the saddle for at least 6 hours a day so they are going to have physical aspects that seem unreal to the average Joe.

[snakehips33]

Oh yeah, the reason why he wasn't interested in Olympic cycling is that the Tour de France is far more important and many cyclists have dominated the Tour de France, Miguel Indurain, Greg LeMond, Bernard Hinault, so to say that someone cannot dominate a sport like he has is pure ignorance.

[triotec]

Maybe the fact that the guy is now 38 and has been out of the sport for three years is the reason he hasn't won it. I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about doping in sport. Are you trying to say that Lance Armstrong is on drugs but none of the other top riders are? Don't be so naive, no matter what the Tour de France is probably the toughest test in sport and you should realise that these guys are supremely fit and there bodies are different than most humans anyway. Miguel Indurain had a heart beat of 25 beats per minute and their lung capacities are also much greater than the average bloke on the street because of the amount of training they do, don't forget that cyclists are in the saddle for at least 6 hours a day so they are going to have physical aspects that seem unreal to the average Joe.

Some people are talking about Contador is on dope too! Just read about it in a norwegian newspaper

[torus]

The tour de france is one of the most prolific sports for PEDs. Of course he dopes, I don't know why he lost but I very much doubt he eased off on his drug takings, if he did, his natural testosterone making abilities are so low, that he would have lost so much muscle, he couldn't have competed.

His heart is twice the size of an average humans, this is a classic sign of steroid abuse.

think of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas...after his awakening his heart expanded 7 times its former size!!!:eek:

"love is the drug...I'm thinking of..."

[chris]

think of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas...after his awakening his heart expanded 7 times its former size!!!:eek:

"love is the drug...I'm thinking of..."

lol

[wake_up_bomb]

I don't want to put forward a boring explanation for Armstrong not winning the tour, but my friend who is a cycling afficionado, used to tell me that when Armstrong rode for US Postal, that he had an incredibly strong team around him, and this is as important as the rider himself, because the team do a lot of the work for you, particularly in the mountain stages. It's possible that he's not won this year simply because he's in a weaker team. I think he's changing teams next year, so we'll see how he gets on then.

[snakehips33]

He was actually riding in the strongest team in the tour, Contador is also a member of his team and is the yellow jersey, it's just you are not going to be at your peak at 38 years old, he's done really well to finish third, hopefully next year Britain will have a winner, Bradley Wiggins is now a real threat and has said that he will now concentrate on trying to win Le tour instead of the 2012 olympics. Also Mark Cavendish has done well this year winning 5 stages and is still in with a shot of winning green although this is unlikely now after he was technically disqualified from one of the stages. Britain is very strong in cycling at the moment.

[i_am]

Ah but that is the difference. US postal's main job was to get Armstrong over the line 1st. They did this to perfection.

[triotec]

He was actually riding in the strongest team in the tour, Contador is also a member of his team and is the yellow jersey, it's just you are not going to be at your peak at 38 years old, he's done really well to finish third, hopefully next year Britain will have a winner, Bradley Wiggins is now a real threat and has said that he will now concentrate on trying to win Le tour instead of the 2012 olympics. Also Mark Cavendish has done well this year winning 5 stages and is still in with a shot of winning green although this is unlikely now after he was technically disqualified from one of the stages. Britain is very strong in cycling at the moment.

Bradley Wiggings is a strong rider, but is he free of dope in this dopecircus?

Mark Cavendish has no chance winning the green tshirt!

[ivorywire]

I don't want to put forward a boring explanation for Armstrong not winning the tour, but my friend who is a cycling afficionado, used to tell me that when Armstrong rode for US Postal, that he had an incredibly strong team around him, and this is as important as the rider himself, because the team do a lot of the work for you, particularly in the mountain stages. It's possible that he's not won this year simply because he's in a weaker team. I think he's changing teams next year, so we'll see how he gets on then.

I follow this guy every single day. He's always talking about how he's being tested. They test him all the time. I don't believe he's been hiding drug use for all these years. I agree, it has to do with the team he is on. This team he's on right now isn't about getting him the win. There are people on the team who have their own agenda. He'll probably finish third. That's pretty good.

[element]

Well, I am convinced that he used drug to win, there is no way any man can win year after year. Let us all be aware that he had people who helped him, powerful people with lots of money!
Unlike many others, his main focus was on the Tour, so he was top fit and ready for it each time. Of course, he's getting a bit older now. The 3th place is very well done after taking a break.
lol, this thread is like saying ''why didn't Michael Schumacher win every year'', ''why didn't Man U won the Champions League'' pff.. :rolleyes:

[i_am]

I follow this guy every single day. He's always talking about how he's being tested. They test him all the time. I don't believe he's been hiding drug use for all these years. I agree, it has to do with the team he is on. This team he's on right now isn't about getting him the win. There are people on the team who have their own agenda. He'll probably finish third. That's pretty good.


Exactly! The man is a machine and with US Postal that machine and all of its components were tuned to perfection.

If you know the tactics involved in cycling, they were awesome to watch.

Armstrong's peddling motion is second to none. No push, push. He has a perfect 360 motion, which I read he achieved when getting back in shape after his cancer scare, He would sit on the wind trainer for hours peddling with one foot and then the other, The result was a continuous motion.

[triotec]

I don't want to put forward a boring explanation for Armstrong not winning the tour, but my friend who is a cycling afficionado, used to tell me that when Armstrong rode for US Postal, that he had an incredibly strong team around him, and this is as important as the rider himself, because the team do a lot of the work for you, particularly in the mountain stages. It's possible that he's not won this year simply because he's in a weaker team. I think he's changing teams next year, so we'll see how he gets on then.

Yes, he has a new team next year
But I would say he is too old now, he is not gonna win anymore

[paulstott]

There was one interview with Armstrong during the first week, of the tour where he said he thought it would be easier.

My guess is he has realised he can't win it, and is rather losing interest - he's always struck me as an all or nothing sort of guy.

Still, the French will be pleased if anyone other than Armstrong wins!

[the loner]

I don't know why he didn't win this year.

But I know he wasn't doped for his prior 7 victories.

Because you'd better believe the French hate him so much, that they would have loved to have nailed him with a positive drug test so he couldn't win.

[triotec]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-floats-possibility-that-new-products-could-be-in-use
Check this

[sicknote]

My stance is that when transfusions and EPO became in disfavor- the Armstrong camp quickly found other, non illegal ways to achieve similar results.

I also believe he could have used some new drug not widely known other than by the US Government. They're always testing new drugs to make their soldiers stronger/faster & being good friends with George W. Bush, sorry but nothing surprises me. Armstrong winning has benefited the USA immensely. Why wouldn't the USA allow him (the best USA cyclist at the time) to make them look good.

[fekdemasons]

Why didnt Lance win Tour de France this year? Was it because he was not doped? Does this mean he was doped when he won seven times in a row? It was never proved that he was doped, though the suspicions were heavy, or was Lance just too smart for the dopehunters?

errr ....he got too old .simple as that.

He quit for years and you think he'll just get back on a bike and be as good as he was..?

He was the most tested rider for years and never tested positive.. (as far as I know)

[dan duchaine]

All professional athletes use performance enhancing drugs. Many are completely undetectable or not even tested for at all.

Steroid and drug taking in cycling is so entrenched, the authorities accept it is part of the sport IMO.

[sicknote]

One of my greatest idols.

Love cycling.

[griffinman]

Why didnt Lance win Tour de France this year?

er he was on the moon or playing the trumpet...
I don't know which.

[primoteston]

Why didnt Lance win Tour de France this year? Was it because he was not doped? Does this mean he was doped when he won seven times in a row? It was never proved that he was doped, though the suspicions were heavy, or was Lance just too smart for the dopehunters?

is that you stark?