Possible Revolution?

[allencopperwood]

What if everyone stopped paying their taxes? They couldn't put everyone in jail.

[gods sun]

the only problem with these sort of thing is sycronization of everyone doing it at same time,

[allencopperwood]

The only way I could see that being possible is the by the power of the internet, but whose to say "they" wouldn't infiltrate in the process. Or if someone hacked television media.

[pinnochio]

Don't you think they read every single post written on this site. They know what your gonna do, before you do it

[decim]

Mr & Mrs Cray do that.
http://www.cray.com/assets/images/products/xt5.jpg

Don't you think they read every single post written on this site. They know what your gonna do, before you do it

[snoop]

i think about this all the time, i know that most people hate the world they live in even sheeple hate the government at the moment. if we all got it together i think (hope) it would work we just need to do it on mass that will make tptb think twice :D WE HAVE THE POWER NOT THEM !!!

[rodin]

the only problem with these sort of thing is sycronization of everyone doing it at same time,

Give us more time and a functioning internet...

All previous revolutions have been orchestrated by the usual suspects. This one better be under our control. Easy to say, hard to do. Still, an open internet is a start.

[comma berenices]

This is something that i think about alot,we are the engine that drives this country,without us paying 75% in taxes from our earning's they would have nothing.
I would love to this happen,my start would be council tax,car tax,t.v licence.

These would be the easiest because most people pay p.a.y.e direct from the earnings,it would be nice for employers to say o.k we won't stop your tax or n.i,but as many are the corporations we want to make a stand against it won't happen.

The council tax would hit hard enough.It's getting people to join and snyc the action.

[zero1]

What if everyone stopped paying their taxes? They couldn't put everyone in jail.

It is likely they have every scenario covered by contingency plans, including that one. ;)

[allencopperwood]

Unless ALL of the American people stormed into Washington and demanded our rights back, the internet seems like the most powerful tool.

[snakehips33]

I'd be very interested how this would work. Most people have no choice but to pay tax. The majority of wages in the UK operate under the PAYE scheme and are removed before you receive them. Other taxes like VAT, tax on cigarettes, alcohol etc are already on the goods so there are actually very few taxes that you could refuse to pay. The one thing that people could do to cause disruption is start putting in claims for rebates. Most people are due rebates but don't realise this because of the PAYE system and how it's calculated especially at a time like this of high unemployment due to more and more people not working the full tax year, in fact i'm actually thinking about going into business helping people claim back overpaid income tax.

[decim]

An easy way would be for everyone to stop using their cars for a fortnight.

Then the gov't would squeal.

[snakehips33]

That happened 9 years ago, unfortunately it stopped because people got pissed off because they are so reliant on their cars and the fuel protests stopped and nothing was achieved when they could have made a difference.

[decim]

That was tanker drivers, not the public.

That happened 9 years ago, unfortunately it stopped because people got pissed off because they are so reliant on their cars and the fuel protests stopped and nothing was achieved when they could have made a difference.

[snakehips33]

Yes, but the public supported them until it became hassle for them. The thing with protests is people will support them until it begins to effect their lifestyle and they are not prepared to suffer for a short time in order to improve their lives for a greater period. The great protest before that was over the poll tax, which was stopped but then govt brought in the council tax which is actually worse than poll tax and this was accepted.

[runciter]

It is likely they have every scenario covered by contingency plans, including that one. ;)

exactly, they are god after all, and we are only highly predictable two legged animals.

remember guys: they are god, they are all-powerful, all-knowing beings, no one can stop them.

[runciter]

As the name implies, those individuals who are members of the Illuminati possess the 'Light of Lucifer'. As far as they are concerned, only members of the human race who possess the 'Light of Lucifer' are truly enlightened and capable of governing. Denouncing God, Weishaupt and his followers considered themselves to be the cream of the intelligentsia - the only people with the mental capacity, the knowledge, the insight and understanding necessary to govern the world and bring it peace. Their avowed purpose and goal was the establishment of a "Novus Ordo Seclorum" - a New World Order, or One World Government.

Through the network of the Illuminati membership, Meyer Rothschild's efforts were redoubled and his banking empire became firmly entrenched throughout Europe. His sons, who were made Barons of the Austrian Empire, continued to build on what their father had started and expand his financial influence.

During the American Revolution, the House of Rothschild brokered a deal between the Throne of England and Prince William of Germany. William was to provide 16,800 Hessian soldiers to help England stop the Revolution in America. Rothschild was also made responsible for the transfer of funds that were to pay the German soldiers. The transfer was never made. The soldiers were never paid, which may account for their poor showing. The Americans prevailed. At this point Meyer Rothschild set his sights on America.

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/rothschild.html

[runciter]

What if everyone stopped paying their taxes? They couldn't put everyone in jail.

ask for the dismantlement of the rothschild-run central bank that is strangling your country.

[yozhik]

What if everyone stopped paying their taxes? They couldn't put everyone in jail.

Very difficult to co-ordinate, as most people are paid by "human resources" or a pay clerk, or similar.
Rather than all agree as individuals, you would need the pay clerks to join the revolution.

There are other, SIMPLE ways of co-ordinated rebellion :)

Organise "cash only" days, where everything you buy is with cash ... refuse to facilitate the move towards a cashless society. Making sure cash remains is actually a vital part of thwarting the introduction of RFID implanting.

Maybe an "Audit the Council" week. Inspired by this post;

1982 Local Government Finance Act Section 17: allows any resident to sit & go through any or all the councils accounts.

A couple did this in South Wales & 7/8 councillors ended up convicted of fraud.

We could all flex our muscle and have a "Run on the Bank Day" ... show the banksters who is still in charge :) ... on a given day, at a given bank, we could all close accounts and withdraw all money (where possible).

Easy to co-ordinate is a "Anti-Challenge 21 Day". To combat the ridiculous and unnecessary "Challenge 21" campaign in the UK, where ID is required to buy almost everything in certain supermarkets, co-ordinate a guerilla supermarket day. You and 30 closest friends to arrive at the supermarket at a specified time and then go about a normal "monthly grocery shop". of course, this monthly shop would require many frozen goods, given that they need to keep for a month, right? Be sure to also include a bottle or two of wine. Then, at a given predetermined signal or time, all shoppers would proceed to the checkouts and queue up in all available open checkouts; hopefully reaching the registers at approximately the same time. When asked for ID; refuse. Leave the staff to put back the frozen foods and walk out of the store with head held high, but ONLY after (politely) informing the staff (not their fault) in a volume loud enough to educate people around you, that you resent being asked for ID and that some common sense needs to be used by store management.

There are lots of fun ways we can flex our muscle, without risking violence from the policy enforcers or without incurring fines, penalties and other acts of fraud by those assuming authority over us.

[nayan]

This comes across to me every single day. its like everyone should go to there government state buildings and ask for rights, freedom. for examples, all british citizens go to westminister.

The other thing, when your ready to say to a large group of people, lets stop paying taxes, you just know that there is going to be someone paying it.

[surfer91]

This would be a dream come true for everyone to refuse to pay taxes,but unfortunately the Drones outnumber the people who can clearly see what is going on,so I dont think this would ever happen.So all we can do is cheat the theiving Scum whenever possible,at every opportunity as they clearly do to us..Two can play at that game..

[freedom1st]

I think the best way would be for non-essential personnel to simply refuse to go to work. I'd give it 2-3 days before 'they' surrendered. But, again, it requires collective action and organisation......this seems to be the spanner in the works.

[strengthofknowledge]

this is a great idea, an idea that all of us think about. The reason why we think it wouldnt work is because of ourselves. Not to mention the sheeple.

Now, if every single one of us took to the streets in our home town, set a date out, started with something like "dont buy gas on this date".. Made DVDs, or Fliers and handed them to everyone, speak to people with passion, people will listen. Say everyone is doing it and explain how large the effect would be. This would spread. Then when the date comes we see how successful it is and determine the next one.........The only time things like this wont work, is if people think they wont.....

[strengthofknowledge]

also dont forget, never show hated toward those who dont participate in our evidence or those that are even in Power making our lives hell...show them love and compassion... if i was faced with mR.kissinger or obama or even any bushs, i would show them love and simply ask why. Never anger and hatred, thats what they want from us all...


If you beam negative frequencies in Pure water molecules it mixes them allllll up....if you beam LOVE frequencies into them, it makes them all piece together like a beautiful puzzle from nature..... So now knowing that, we are made up of mostly water...imagine...

[strengthofknowledge]

and to the thread creator__ Dont call it a "possible" revolution....because anything is possible...if its a revolution you want, then by all means lets start it off. I had ideas locally , my revolution is Green.

[surfer91]

No chance,too late.The majority of the population have already been brainwashed.They live in a trance are obsessed with breeding,alcohol,celebrity,money...No hope............

[henryv]

Don't have to stop paying taxes, simply stop buying gasoline and see the result, but try telling that to the sheeple.

They're such cunts that during the NY blackouts back in 1976, bulletins were issued saying only people whose job was essential had to go to work. Result, the lowest absentee rate in history!

Try banging your head against the wall down at the mall, you'd get a bigger crowd listening to you.

[gods sun]

thts why its time to release manson on these sheep because i have no time for these people anymore there not in my real world all are just zombies and soon somthing will get rid of them if nothing changes, these people would even work if the political system even failed thats how there working. if everything fails all will go unoticed and they carry on working.

the change is happening only in the new born and young and growing fast its the old farts that need to go reminding us of war hate guns etc old minds need to be gone so the new minds will be free, wouldnt be suprised if they try to get immortality to these sheeple old farts because there the root of the problm.

"ooo young child dont forgert the warrr" i forget d-day,concentration camps etc need to be forgotten and now lets not remind are selfs off war >:(

a child quite strangly looked at freemason building when i was on bus very young girl and she goes "granny what do they do in that building" o my dear 2 pillars there good people. OLD MINDS NEED TO GO!! im tired of these sheep and we should look at them as the negativity energy we do not wish to see.

they have a choice but they chosse ignorence makes me sick of humans somtimes and wish i was somthing else to put people straight.

[snakehips33]

I think you are wrong about old minds, old minds have a lot to offer. I'm not sure that wars should be forgotten, i used to think this is the case but wiping something from memory doesn't mean that it never happened. There are also lessons to be learnt from the past. The reason i hate war so much is because my grand parents fought and the lesson that they taught me was that they fought so i don't have to fight. The world will change again, i'm 34 now and soon it will be my generation that the leaders come from, i hope that my generation can help change the world. The Madchester scene will rule the country in the next 10 years and bring peace to everyone.

[motokeiru]

I avoid paying taxes in whatever way I can just because I don't agree with taxation at all, avoid any type of action that might support state power, if we are successful in establishing an alternative market without state interference they are done for.

[jakemaverick]

g-men tried to get me to do that (entrapment?) but it wasn't even possible for me as i'm not allowed money anymore!!!!

read my story. email me!

[windeyaho]

the change is happening only in the new born and young and growing fast its the old farts that need to go reminding us of war hate guns etc old minds need to be gone so the new minds will be free, wouldnt be suprised if they try to get immortality to these sheeple old farts because there the root of the problm.



My, my my. . . . . exactly what the Illuminati think, exactly what the Obamanation wants in his health care fiasco as he prepares to make Medicare more of a shambles than it already is. The whole IDEA is to get rid of the old, the baby boomers, the people who know the true history of the world and who are CATCHING ON.

I will grant you that there are those dolts who are so soddened into their retired, government supported life-style that they can't hope to EVER open a door in their mind and look outside. Most have health issues that are boxing them into the state-sponsored drug dependancy that seems to be the norm for anyone over 60.

However, I'm one of those "old farts" you're talking about. I've thought out of the box all my life. I was into UFO's when I was 11 - the library gave up on me because I was raiding all their books on the subject and started saying they just didn't have anymore. I was ostrasized all my life for my way of thinking; that there is more than what we perceive. David Icke's lectures (thank you the posters on youtube!) made me feel like I wasn't as crazy as I thought and I proceeded to his site years ago. It took time to understand some of the stuff he was explaining. He has gotten better and I am learning everyday.

Us "old farts" that have the hang of this dimension are the difference between you young'ns beating yourselves up in this fight or waiting until the otherside wears THEMSELVES out and then, supplying the coupe de grace.

Never forget what David and the others, who have learned the hard way, have told you. LOVE all, everything that exists. There is no room for judgement, prejudice, rankor, or snobbery. You may not like me, but I will love you. I can't afford NOT to. Not caring about every spark of life here, letting anything other than love direct me means I lose a level of vibration. I lose a part of the quickening. Daily we fluctuate and daily we have to gain it back. Being an "old fart" means I don't have all the time that you young'ns have, I have to be good NOW......LOL

[kweli]

thts why its time to release manson on these sheep because i have no time for these people anymore there not in my real world all are just zombies and soon somthing will get rid of them if nothing changes, these people would even work if the political system even failed thats how there working. if everything fails all will go unoticed and they carry on working.

the change is happening only in the new born and young and growing fast its the old farts that need to go reminding us of war hate guns etc old minds need to be gone so the new minds will be free, wouldnt be suprised if they try to get immortality to these sheeple old farts because there the root of the problm.

"ooo young child dont forgert the warrr" i forget d-day,concentration camps etc need to be forgotten and now lets not remind are selfs off war >:(

a child quite strangly looked at freemason building when i was on bus very young girl and she goes "granny what do they do in that building" o my dear 2 pillars there good people. OLD MINDS NEED TO GO!! im tired of these sheep and we should look at them as the negativity energy we do not wish to see.

they have a choice but they chosse ignorence makes me sick of humans somtimes and wish i was somthing else to put people straight.

You show your true colours in this post. Shame on you.

[rashhead]

I posted something about this a few months ago.

About a month later, the tax-man started getting really heavy for some reason!

Thinking about this stance, it would only really have a major effect for non-payment of business taxes (corporation, PAY/NIC, vat and penalties) and also non-payment of personal coucil tax by a substantial amount.

This said, what would happen if everyone also stopped paying all the 'unofficial' taxes?

[surfer91]

Gordon Brown really is a piece of dogs Poo isnt he..

[jakemaverick]

personally, i believe it's appropriate to use the 'C' word on him.....go Jeremy!!!!

[manxboz]

A possible revolution is far beyond reality as many people refuse to think outside of there small space. Think its a waste of time, that people like us are weridos and have nothing better to do. That we should be doing better things like paying tax, working 35 hours, being good citizens. Well if we really want to do it we need to grab the Bull by the bollocks and actually start putting things together instead of talking about it.

[johngr]

Better yet, stop using their "money".