Does D-icke have an answer for this ? [Archive]

tracker

24-07-2009, 01:17 AM

merlincove

24-07-2009, 01:35 AM

been thinbking this same thing

there is a thread here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73576

David did talk about this at Avebury, i donb't think the vid has been posted yet, look out for it when it hits the threads

He did say about getting together and forming a collective that says no.

Group action is good, but we'd need to be aware of shills / agents and dissinformists attempting to ruin it and disscredit us.

i personally don't think they will ome for us mob handed, they wont be smashing in doors, but there is a danger that non vaccined people will be labelled as a danger to society, so we would need to get up to speed on why we don't want the vaccine and spread the word.

steevo

24-07-2009, 01:35 AM

I think that the answer is to say "no".....but we must ALL say "no".
So what THEN is the answer ?

tracker

24-07-2009, 01:38 AM

but there is a danger that non vaccined people will be labelled as a danger to society, so we would need to get up to speed on why we don't want the vaccine and spread the word.

so you do indeed know the answer .
if we are labbeled as a danger to a whole society , what do you think happens to folks who are labbelled as a national health wrisk ?

come on , think about it

im sure it will sink in soon .
:cool:

tracker

24-07-2009, 01:39 AM

I think that the answer is to say "no".....but we must ALL say "no".
So what THEN is the answer ?

Steevo , regarding the other thread , this is not going to happen .
only a handfull will say no and then we are labbelled as national health wrisks .

:cool:

steevo

24-07-2009, 01:40 AM

Steevo , regarding the other thread , this is not going to happen .
only a handfull will say no and then we are labbelled as national health wrisks .

:cool:

I agree that it's gonna be a minority that say no. But WHY would only a handful say no ? It's cos they are not in awareness. Fucking leafleting is the bastarding answer. Now fucking do some.

tracker

24-07-2009, 01:42 AM

I agree that it's gonna be a minority that say no. But WHY would only a handful say no ? It's cos they are not in awareness. Fucking leafleting is the bastarding answer. Now fucking do some.

Im doing it on face book and other forums every day and guess what ?

even my friends dont even bother answering the topics and i put it on my walls so that they see it on theirs .
its like they are going out of their way to ignore it all .:cool:

flox

24-07-2009, 01:44 AM

even my friends dont even bother answering the topics and i put it on my walls so that they see it on theirs .
its like they are going out of their way to ignore it all .:cool:

I know what you mean. My friends are mostly a lost-cause to the information war.

steevo

24-07-2009, 01:45 AM

Im doing it on face book and other forums every day and guess what ?

even my friends dont even bother answering the topics and i put it on my walls so that they see it on theirs .
its like they are going out of their way to ignore it all .:cool:

Let them ignore it, they cannot un-think a thought. Just plant seeds Tracker, that is all that can be done. The rest will take care of itself.

Sorry for the bad language btw :o It's a passionate subject innit :(

bsosaka

24-07-2009, 01:47 AM

It seems strange you expect someone else to give you the answer to your own problems.

If there was a one world government then you are right they would eventually find you, but at this moment in time you can live anywhere in the world and some countries are less strict than others. Avoiding a vaccine at the moment is very easy so the best thing any of us can do is say no.

I have not taken any western style medication for nearly ten years and have only been to the doctors a few times during that period. My address on my doctors records is wrong also. So far I am not worried at all about being forced into having a vaccine.

If in the end I am physically forced to have it then I will accept without a fight.

Sorry I have not been totally able to answer your request but maybe if you are a bit more specific about the problem then I will think some more on your behalf.

steevo

24-07-2009, 01:48 AM

Im doing it on face book and other forums every day and guess what ?

even my friends dont even bother answering the topics and i put it on my walls so that they see it on theirs .
its like they are going out of their way to ignore it all .:cool:

Tracker use your expertise in psychology to get through to them. That is how the professional in the mainstream media do it, and it works for THEM.

merlincove

24-07-2009, 01:49 AM

so you do indeed know the answer .
if we are labbeled as a danger to a whole society , what do you think happens to folks who are labbelled as a national health wrisk ?

come on , think about it

im sure it will sink in soon .
:cool:

Do you think it will get to that?

Hey, my daughter came home a few weeks back with a letter from school saying that there was a kid there who had been diagnosed as possative swine flu.

A few days later she was caughing and sneezin etc, rang the docs up and he said, sounds like a mild dose, you are not to come in to surgery or go to school for a week, take paracetamol and over the counter cough mixture. Which she did. A week later i'm in the same boat, so i did the paracetamol and cough stuff and hay fever / allergy tab's. No biggie, i aint dead.

it is all scare tactics, people won't fall for it.

at least i hope they wont :rolleyes:

1000new cases a day? C'mon, sounds like scare tactics to me. WE know it is.

Now they are on about poisoned chipmunks coming in from europe? Have you heard that one?

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Chipmunk-Invasion-Warnings-Of-Thousands-Of-Rodents-Coming-From-France/Article/200907415344657?f=rss

Swine flu is a panic buy.

windeyaho

24-07-2009, 05:46 AM

My parents opted out of ALL vaccinations for me when the polio scare showed that children were getting the disease from the vaccine. School officials said that we couldn't pick and choose what inoculations we wished to decline, that we had to decline all of them. Our family doctor mistakenly jabbed me with a booster for DPT and my mother just about ate his shorts. I only tell this story to show that I am adamantly against forcing the body to short-circuit its own immune system.

Precisely because I have seen a scenario such as this looming on the horizon, I didn't worry when I found out I was difficult to locate. I don’t give out much info and I use a PO Box for mail.

The DMV is forcing us to list physical locations on our driver’s licenses, mine happens to be almost impossible to find…..the phone company told me so, I’m too rural.

I don’t go to one particular physician, I use a clinic , and rarely – once a year at most. My business might be tracked but it is moveable and is always located under a sublet agreement so that I am not the owner of the building.

Geesh, most of it just worked out that way for the sake of finances (I’m poor, but debt free) however it sure sounds like I’m a criminal dodging the law. . . . well, isn’t that what they are trying to make us all out to be?

I’m not totally invisible but, hopefully, I will have some maneuverability to stay a step ahead of the “swine” police. Hmmm, will the term “pigs” relate even more to the enforcers in blue?;)

If we can’t stay within the law and function, then it is time to ignore the law and LIVE.

cookie_dude

24-07-2009, 06:20 AM

Do you think it will get to that?

Hey, my daughter came home a few weeks back with a letter from school saying that there was a kid there who had been diagnosed as possative swine flu.

A few days later she was caughing and sneezin etc,

Same here, my wife works in a school and 2 kids in her class had it. She came home with sore throat, cough and stiff neck and soon passed it on to me and I then passed it on to my work mates.

The people that are worrying are the one that have yet to have a personal connection with it. The fokes in my area now think its a load of hype over nothing.

merlincove

24-07-2009, 07:15 AM

Same here, my wife works in a school and 2 kids in her class had it. She came home with sore throat, cough and stiff neck and soon passed it on to me and I then passed it on to my work mates.

The people that are worrying are the one that have yet to have a personal connection with it. The fokes in my area now think its a load of hype over nothing.

Yeah, nottingham has been a hot spot for it, with almost all the schools being hit with it - we heard a few weeks back that there were 20 schools reporting cases, and that escalated within a week.

The scare tactic is 'this will kill' and hey, we're told that people are dying from it so lets all hide away with the doors shut, don't go out, you can't fly. Every year the flu virus claims the lives of the vulnerable and old, swine flu aint no different.

Escept this time the vaccine is causing concearn, and rightly so, they are only too keen to stick us full of their shit.

i don't think they'll make it mandatory vaccination, i don't think they'll be beating down the doors of disscontentors.

But having said that there is a need, as has been said earlier, for us to say no as one.

The word no is what the nwo fear the most, and it is a word that we really ought to be saying a lot more. No, thankyou. Not just to the vaccine but to a whole host of stuff - as a weapon the word no is pretty undefeatable, when enough people use it.

tracker

24-07-2009, 08:07 AM

It seems strange you expect someone else to give you the answer to your own problems.

Oh I see --bsosaka knows everything them self and was born an encyclopedia of knowledge and didnt have to learn a thing from any one else in the world .

jee wizz wish I could be like you .:rolleyes:

tracker

24-07-2009, 08:09 AM

Thankyou every one for your repplies on this because ithas made me feel more at ease now .

much apreciated .

:cool:

marpat

24-07-2009, 10:46 AM

Ok , david icke says
"dont have the vaccine".
yet he knows they will sooner or later make it manditory and this means being rounded up if your name hasnt been ticked on the DRs chart , then "THEY" come crashing through your door and make you or take you -----to a camp site where you will be made to have it some way or another , or like America they will make it so that your kid cant get into school with out being vaccinated thus your child doesnt turn up at school , you get taken to court and your kid gets taken .

so whats the score then ?

what do we do ?

surely learning to live on the run and off the map and charts is better for us all if we choose not to have this vaccine .

because lets face it folks , we know that theyw ill sooner or later create name lists ,
and some of ours wont be on there , so they WILL come for us .

what do we do ?

and dont start by giving this crap about life being an Illusion as it doesnt answer the question .

lets get real here

what can we do ?

does icke have a solution ?

saying "NO" is simple really , but making sure that "THEY" dont harm you for it is another .
what can we do ? icke ---we need an answer .

please .:cool:

Alex jones ? please do tell -------anyone who keeps saying dont take the Vaccine , tell us what we can do to protect our selves .

:cool:

Make your own mind up. Do you look to Icke for your life solutions? really awakened that. Look at your words 'TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO'. What makes you think they know anything or could do anything? What if you tell people to say no and they die, all because Icke or Watt tell people not to take it, how would you live with that?

Names list, loads of shite. If they wanted to force people into vaccinations it could have been done many times under many different situations.

Make your own mind up, dont let Icke or Watt be the master of your mind by looking to them for the answers.

steevo

24-07-2009, 12:46 PM

Make your own mind up. Do you look to Icke for your life solutions? really awakened that. Look at your words 'TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO'. What makes you think they know anything or could do anything? What if you tell people to say no and they die, all because Icke or Watt tell people not to take it, how would you live with that?

Names list, loads of shite. If they wanted to force people into vaccinations it could have been done many times under many different situations.

Make your own mind up, dont let Icke or Watt be the master of your mind by looking to them for the answers.

And what if the PTB are telling people that they SHOULD have the vaccine, and then they die (or get braindamaged), how do the PTB live with that ?

bsosaka

24-07-2009, 01:31 PM

Oh I see --bsosaka knows everything them self and was born an encyclopedia of knowledge and didnt have to learn a thing from any one else in the world .

jee wizz wish I could be like you .:rolleyes:

Yes, I am quite intuitive :p

What I was trying to say is that the tone of your message was that David should give you the answer whilst you sit back and wait.

Anyway sorry for an offence.

marpat

24-07-2009, 01:39 PM

And what if the PTB are telling people that they SHOULD have the vaccine, and then they die (or get braindamaged), how do the PTB live with that ?

But you are only speculating about consequences. No vaccines are 100% reliable anyway.

steevo

24-07-2009, 01:56 PM

But you are only speculating about consequences. No vaccines are 100% reliable anyway.

Personally I would say that they are 100% reliable. They meet their objectives.

marpat

24-07-2009, 02:24 PM

Personally I would say that they are 100% reliable. They meet their objectives.

You mean the objectives you believe. So if vaccines help 80% of people is that 80% successful or unsuccessful?

tracker

24-07-2009, 02:28 PM

Make your own mind up. Do you look to Icke for your life solutions? really awakened that. Look at your words 'TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO'. What makes you think they know anything or could do anything? What if you tell people to say no and they die, all because Icke or Watt tell people not to take it, how would you live with that?

Names list, loads of shite. If they wanted to force people into vaccinations it could have been done many times under many different situations.

Make your own mind up, dont let Icke or Watt be the master of your mind by looking to them for the answers.

well that's very helpful marpat , your top trumps are on display again , thanks for that , brilliant stuff . your real helpfull tips have yet again proved your worth on forum .:rolleyes:

tracker

24-07-2009, 02:31 PM

Yes, I am quite intuitive :p

What I was trying to say is that the tone of your message was that David should give you the answer whilst you sit back and wait.

Anyway sorry for an offence.

If someone is telling you "NOT" to do something -----they should cover all aspects of what might happen if you dont rather than what might happen when you do .
this goes with out saying and since every one has missed this point , it is the very reason why i made this thread .

but thats ok , dont worry about your 1st repply ---that is past , not present .:cool:

tracker

24-07-2009, 02:33 PM

But you are only speculating about consequences. No vaccines are 100% reliable anyway.

you seem to forget that if you are going public to say "DONT DO THIS" then you should not only cover why you shouldnt , but what can happen if you dont ------------and not just focus on what can happen if you do .

YOU HAVE ALL MISSED THIS POINT !

HENCE THIS THREAD .:cool:

marpat

24-07-2009, 02:35 PM

well that's very helpful marpat , your top trumps are on display again , thanks for that , brilliant stuff . your real helpfull tips have yet again proved your worth on forum .:rolleyes:

Why try to be a smart arse? you are looking to conspiracy researchers to tell you what you should do regarding vaccinations. Cant you think for yourself or do you wish to pin the blam on them if it goes wrong? if it came to their kids needing them I wonder what they would do?

marpat

24-07-2009, 02:37 PM

you seem to forget that if you are going public to say "DONT DO THIS" then you should not only cover why you shouldnt , but what can happen if you dont ------------and not just focus on what can happen if you do .

YOU HAVE ALL MISSED THIS POINT !

HENCE THIS THREAD .:cool:

Maybe I just misread where you were coming from

tracker

24-07-2009, 02:57 PM

Maybe I just misread where you were coming from

thats no problem Marpat , we can get past little things like this .

I am an electrician , and also advise folks what not to do and what to do , I often back up my "DONT DO THIS" with --------with many situations that can happen if they dont do such and such , whilst at the same time tell them what can happen if they do .

its just that I have found that many folks ( Alex Jones / D-Icke/ other folks in the field ) are saying dont take the vaccines and only high light what can happen if they do ---------but do not offer advice on variouse situations that may occure if they dont .

but hay ----its no bother ,

I am hoping that some of those freedom reporters can offer some ideas on what they havent concidered .

what would be our chances if national vaccines were mandatory ?
we would be labbelled as a national health wrisk ---maybe -what are our rights then ?
what would we be able to do if this did become mandotory etc .

I dont see this vaccine going that way , but it will happen sooner or later .

anyway , thats what Imaybe should have said in the opening page .

:cool:

marpat

24-07-2009, 05:57 PM

Yes, i agree that they should offer something more credible than some rabid condemntation, which many will follow without a thought of their own. Personally I doubt you will get anything more than he had a hunch or a bad feeling, or something along that line.
My job is electronic so, like you say, if people say something is wrong or bad you want to know why. I think it is the nature of such jobs to ask questions rather than just accepting blind ideas.

lightgiver

24-07-2009, 08:52 PM

marpat

24-07-2009, 09:01 PM

Would you have the Anthrax jab,marpat?

Got offered it and turned it down.

steevo

24-07-2009, 09:01 PM

Got offered it and turned it down.

Why did you turn it down ?

marpat

24-07-2009, 09:05 PM

Why did you turn it down ?

Because of the bad publicity it was getting. Didnt want to take the chance although I know many people who had it and suffered no ill effects. It is also compulsory for people who work with livestock and in slaughterhouses anyway so maybe I was a bit too paranoid.

lightgiver

24-07-2009, 09:14 PM

Got offered it and turned it down.

There you go then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/

and on and on.

shane

24-07-2009, 09:16 PM

Ok , david icke says
"dont have the vaccine".
yet he knows they will sooner or later make it manditory and this means being rounded up if your name hasnt been ticked on the DRs chart , then "THEY" come crashing through your door and make you or take you -----to a camp site where you will be made to have it some way or another , or like America they will make it so that your kid cant get into school with out being vaccinated thus your child doesnt turn up at school , you get taken to court and your kid gets taken .

so whats the score then ?

what do we do ?

surely learning to live on the run and off the map and charts is better for us all if we choose not to have this vaccine .

because lets face it folks , we know that theyw ill sooner or later create name lists ,
and some of ours wont be on there , so they WILL come for us .

what do we do ?

and dont start by giving this crap about life being an Illusion as it doesnt answer the question .

lets get real here

what can we do ?

does icke have a solution ?

saying "NO" is simple really , but making sure that "THEY" dont harm you for it is another .
what can we do ? icke ---we need an answer .

please .:cool:

Alex jones ? please do tell -------anyone who keeps saying dont take the Vaccine , tell us what we can do to protect our selves .

:cool:

The Freeman movement could be the solution. I would recommend gatherings with other people who use the TPUC website and are interested in Lawful Rebellion.

strengthofknowledge

27-07-2009, 01:14 AM

I think Alex Jones and David Icke are with the PowersThatBe..... anyone else has been silenced, but why havent they?... Just saying

tracker

27-07-2009, 01:23 AM

I think Alex Jones and David Icke are with the PowersThatBe..... anyone else has been silenced, but why havent they?... Just saying

maybe -- they are bait .

allowed to operate so that TPTB can trace all those who are awake .
even if they dont know that they are being used like that , it could be possible .:cool:

steevo

27-07-2009, 01:36 AM

maybe -- they are bait .

allowed to operate so that TPTB can trace all those who are awake .
even if they dont know that they are being used like that , it could be possible .:cool:

And I'm SURE that nearly everyone on here has previously considered this as being a possibility. But we're still here on the forum :)

motokeiru

27-07-2009, 03:20 AM

I think people need to grow some balls and really start making their decisions either you'll be scared and take it or fight it, I mean really fight it avoid it at all costs vaccination taxes and anything that can help governaments gain more power over the population, run away go live off the grid whatever, if or when I'm pushed that far that's what i'll do, it's not like there's a third option anyway.

I know what we shouldn't do wich is ask other people what we should do with our lifes.

The Freeman movement could be the solution. I would recommend gatherings with other people who use the TPUC website and are interested in Lawful Rebellion.

Is there such a thing as a Lawful Rebelion?

shane

27-07-2009, 11:00 PM

Is there such a thing as a Lawful Rebelion?

Yes. Don't confuse Lawful with Legal.

marpat

27-07-2009, 11:28 PM

There you go then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/

and on and on.

Thing is though it is compulsory for many people in livestock trades. I would have thought if there was a problem with it that they would be the people to look at. Also, i know people who had it and showed no problems so maybe my refusal to have it was an over reaction

marpat

27-07-2009, 11:43 PM

do you ever stop the BS:

What? please explain your stupid statement

marpat

28-07-2009, 12:05 AM

you are anti Icke what are you doing here:

Oh yes spreading your lies:

You deviate from the question. Explain your stupid statement.

lightgiver

28-07-2009, 12:31 AM

No military training to attend in the morning????

ha ha army dreamers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdHOm256N4

'B.F.P.O.*'
Army dreamers.
'Mammy's hero.'
'B.F.P.O.'
'Mammy's hero.'

Our little army boy
Is coming home from B.F.P.O.
I've a bunch of purple flowers
To decorate a mammy's hero.

Mourning in the aerodrome,
The weather warmer, he is colder.
Four men in uniform
To carry home my little soldier.

'What could he do?
Should have been a rock star.'
But he didn't have the money for a guitar.
'What could he do?
Should have been a politician.'
But he never had a proper education.
'What could he do?
Should have been a father.'
But he never even made it to his twenties.
What a waste --
Army dreamers.
Ooh, what a waste of
Army dreamers.

Tears o'er a tin box.
Oh, Jesus Christ, he wasn't to know,
Like a chicken with a fox,
He couldn't win the war with ego.

Give the kid the pick of pips,
And give him all your stripes and ribbons.
Now he's sitting in his hole,
He might as well have buttons and bows.

'What could he do?
Should have been a rock star.'
But he didn't have the money for a guitar.
'What could he do?
Should have been a politician.'
But he never had a proper education.
'What could he do?
Should have been a father.'
But he never even made it to his twenties.
What a waste --
Army dreamers.
Ooh, what a waste of
Army dreamers.
Ooh, what a waste of all that
Army dreamers,
Army dreamers,
Army dreamers, oh...

('B.F.P.O.')
Did-n-did-n-did-n-dum...
Army dreamers.
Did-n-did-n-did-n-dum...
('Mammy's hero.')
('B.F.P.O.')
Army Dreamers.
('Mammy's hero.')
('B.F.P.O.')
No harm heroes.
('Mammy's hero.')
('B.F.P.O.')
Army dreamers.
('Mammy's hero.')
('B.F.P.O.')
No harm heroes.

* B.F.P.O - British Forces Posted Overseas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLc8cZdhLI