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infinitely free
09-08-2007, 08:40 PM
Analysis: New Law Gives Government Six Months to Turn Internet and Phone Systems into Permanent Spying Architecture - UPDATED
[The] new law expanding the government's spying powers gives the Bush Administration a six-month window to install possibly permanent back doors in the nation's communication networks. The legislation was passed hurriedly by Congress over the weekend and signed into law by President Bush.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/analysis-new-la.html
Never give up, do they?
mr_moon
09-08-2007, 10:25 PM
If you've nothing to hide- does it matter?
If you've nothing to hide- does it matter?
I am sure they will check on that,
and give you a chip, so they can keep you save.
mr_moon
10-08-2007, 01:54 AM
Would the chips come with salt and vinegar? I do hope so...;)
cruise4
10-08-2007, 04:23 AM
The Chips will come with visits to the dentist. Or shopping from the supermarkets or from a 1001 other places, and it will be without your consent and you won't even know. Chips can be as small as a human hair, nanotech.
Crime will be replaced by Pre-crime thought analysis. And it won't matter at all.... Until they turn it on.
mr_moon
10-08-2007, 10:23 AM
We can't get too paranoid though... and even if we DID get chips put inside us- we are such Powerful Human Beings that we could control it...
well dude don`t look paranoid or make strange gesture down the street !!!
Move to analyse behaviour and physiology from afar
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/09/terrorism
Because the police might throw you in the back of a van and look you up for 28 days with out charge, go through all your gear at home and work to see what you are up to.
You can tell them "I have nothing to hide" I am sure they will believe you
Think thats far fetched ?
‘I took a picture of Tower Bridge and was arrested for terrorism’
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=146&a=2257
If we don`t stop all this police state total awareness society you want have any privacy or anything to hide!!!! weather it illegal or not. citizen "wait until I scan you" 364547491
Homeland Security To Covertly Scan Behaviour
Minority Report technology to analyze behaviour and physiology and determine Whether you are a terrorist or not
http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/090807PHI.htm
mr_moon
10-08-2007, 02:32 PM
It's all designed to scare us that's all- it's doing a good job too!
What can we do about it? Just have no fear and go with the flow xxx
Much Love,
Jay
xxx
No, People can make a difference There is lots you can do, Start making people aware of it,complain to your MP,join groups that protest against this.
If you think theres nothing you can do about it, then they will shove it on us.
Ok
peace & love
infinitely free
10-08-2007, 04:53 PM
And let them remember that they may always go too far... ;) :D
mr_moon
10-08-2007, 09:49 PM
No, People can make a difference There is lots you can do, Start making people aware of it,complain to your MP,join groups that protest against this.
If you think theres nothing you can do about it, then they will shove it on us.
Ok
peace & love
That was an interesting response... i actually asked 'What can we do about it?'. I didn't say there was 'nothing' we could do about it.
Interesting how we miss the bits in between sometimes when we are so focused on a particular thing- this is exactly the reason why we need to be aware of ourselves first. We need to remove our blinkers- our tunnel vision- and appreciate and accept BOTH sides of an argument. Accept and allow these things IN and you can then decide what resonates.
We can become very focused as Human Beings, to such an extent, that the World around us (and inside us) becomes blurry. Our Emotions take over and then we begin to 'fight' from fear of losing control or dying.
This perceptual loss of control is actually a positive thing, as it can make us aware that in order to be in control we must surrender to our SELF. We must allow it through into the World so we can see it and understand that we are in control ALL OF THE TIME. There is no event, no situation in our reality, that is not in our complete control...we are made to believe we are NOT in control. Do not fall for this persuasive lie for we are entirely the Masters of our own Reality.
Much Love to you my friend!
Jay
xxx
truthsayer
10-08-2007, 11:11 PM
This perceptual loss of control is actually a positive thing, as it can make us aware that in order to be in control we must surrender to our SELF.
I agree with this up to a point and have been most at peace when I've been able to let go and stop trying to control every aspect of my life, but I also feel your missing the point of other argument.
Its one thing to let go control for personal benefit, its another thing entirely to have your personal control taken for power and control by a state, making you a servent and slave.
The threat to our civil liberties goes far beyond letting go control on a personal level; were essentially giving up our right to be if we don't fight back.
United States Department of Homeland Security will install new technology to secretly scan people using lasers, cameras, eye trackers and microphones, according to an upcoming article in New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/).
There's no personal gain to be made, by giving up control of our right to be different, individual and unique.
mr_moon
12-08-2007, 11:51 AM
You misunderstand me- i don't mean 'give away' our control. When we 'give away' our control to someone else- we are giving it to an imaginary part of our self, the externalisation of who we are and what we are thinking.
It is US who are both Master and Slave- there is no THEM in TRUE Reality, as it is all inside our heads. We ALWAYS have a choice no matter what- it is the choice we make (and us alone) that decides whether the SELF is operating as Master or Slave...
If we are fighting- then we are not BEING. We are operating on purely a survival level, which is exactly how this part of the Reptilian Brain functions. These people who are deperately trying to keep control, are operating heavily on the Reptilian part of the brain which ultimately cannot survive in our current state of conscious development. It will become harder and harder to 'survive' (or at least BELIEVE we must survive because that is the crap we are being fed) and panic and fear and fighting and desperation are all inevitable for a lot of people still operating on this level. These people in 'Power' (not 'Power' in the sense of Love and True Consciousness) are panicking. They are FAILING and in DESPERATION! Don't go and join them by succumbing to this Primal, Reptilian environment of fighting and anger- this is perfect for them! This is what they want- it keeps them going and going!!
If we become aware that we do not NEED to survive and it is this that is keeping the world in a state of fear, then we will be closer to a more Peaceful World.
The only threat to our civil liberties, are the restrictions we place upon ourselves and the problems we perceive as external, when in actual fact it is all happening inside us.
The key to all of this is Awareness, Acceptance, Surrender to the Self and Trust in the Self because a Peaceful, flowing existence without resistance to ANYTHING will unlock the Beuty and Wonder in this World.
Much Love,
Jay
xxx