Has Stuart Wilde sold out ? ? ? ? ? ?

[dark86]

As a big S Wilde fan - i would like to share the info on his new redeemers club site thats about to launch.

It is a travel group that have lectures in various locations worldwide. 1st years membership is Euro 3300.- or USD 4600. Most lectures are limited but as a member you are only paying for the 2 weekly email.

:eek::eek:

http://s206949448.online.de/site/users/public/landing.php?&sessionid=



From his books he states he made lots of money in his youth so why the big charge ? he does not need the money. And in "beyond Enlightenment" he states he gave his mansion and money away.

I am confused as i really do get on' with his thoughts.

I quote:

"It has to be small groups of people that essentially have noble souls and honorable intentions, like the knights and ladies of old, those that will make the journey and keep the methodology sacrosanct. Certainly, once you have the method down pat you can offer bits of it to others to help them along, but you can never offer it all until you are absolutely sure of the person to whom the offer is made. It has to be that way at first because we humans are so crafty at hiding our darkness, one has to wait until the person in question shows you their true light."

If i had the knowledge he had and cared for humanity i would be churning it out free and with the money he has i would b dropping leaflets in every city from B52 bombers.

I feel a little betrayed.

Maybe he thinks "I will teach a few well instead of a lot so i might as well cash in". but his books state the ivory tower (ego / making money from spirituality) is the worst thing going and has to b let go.


:confused::confused::confused:



MR WILDE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING??????

[soglad]

Fame and power (AKA worship/admiration) does that. Some people can resist it, some can't.

[barbitone]

I was thinking about this too...... It doesn't affect the way I look at his work though. Do you think the money covers the air-fare to and from the gatherings?
Maybe if you actually add everything up you might find that he is only making enough to cover it all and pay himself for his own living expenses etc....

[barbitone]

Fame and power (AKA worship/admiration) does that. Some people can resist it, some can't.

I don't think that would be it though. If he is at the spiritual level we presume him to be from his teachings and his life events then he couldn't possibly be likely to just give in to basic greed for money. That just doesn't fit IMO.
Maybe he plans on using the money to establish something else down the line that will further the club etc....?

[dark86]

well i for one hope people bit torrent his 2 weekly email or share their pin numbers.

"oh, the world is going to change lots in the next few years, i know some serious shit, and have WRITTEN in published books that money will be useless in a few years, but hey, i want over 3k for a years worth of emails".


w h a t t h e f u c k i s t h a t a b o u t

:eek:

WILDE - explain yourself or you could look like a hypocrit.

p.s i still think his work is ace, but this stinks of smelly stuff.

[Anders Lindman]

Stuart Wilde of course has the right to charge any amount he wants.

If I were him I would make sure that my "money mind" was in balance and harmony with my "public mind".

The money mind can often play tricks on us. Our public mind behaves in one way, while the money mind often half-surreptitiously even to ourselves operates with a different agenda. I have noticed in myself that I have been far more greedy than I was aware of. It's really tricky to catch one's own 'money mind' in action.

[montag]

The money he charges is relative to the level of commitment he is demanding from his students, it's a way of weeding out those that are not serious and time wasters..
If you are serious about what Stuart is offering then the money shouldn't matter, if you don't have the money then you'll find it..

[bicycle]

Oh ffs, changing your inner self costs fuck all!!! imo:rolleyes:

But if you feel you need to spend lots of money to change then go for it.:D

[geewhizz]

Hi

Stuart wilde reminds me of the waves of new age scammers which appeared in the 70s 80s etc. He speaks alot of truth but then dont all scammers?

I have read all his work but I cant help following my gut instinct on this guy and this tells me he is a egotistical hypocrite who is obsessed with the days of camelot and other medieval timelines. He is 100% new ager and his writing style annoys the pants off me. The melodramatic way he spells out numbers and offers you the way out?? Only Stuart knows the way eh??:rolleyes:

AVOID

[seanx]

If i had the knowledge he had and cared for humanity i would be churning it out free and with the money he has i would b dropping leaflets in every city from B52 bombers.

I feel a little betrayed.

Maybe he thinks "I will teach a few well instead of a lot so i might as well cash in". but his books state the ivory tower (ego / making money from spirituality) is the worst thing going and has to b let go.

And what do you think Mr. Wilde will live off as he's teaching YOU?

Air. The leaves on the trees?

How do you think he'll travel to all these locations? Yogic flying?

Where will he sleep?

On the footpath outside the train station just because you
have a totally, religious brainwashed view of money.

it is just ENERGY?

Vibrating energy.

He gives you energy in the form of his lectures and
ideas and you give him energy in the form of money.

He can then give this form of energy to the baker - who will
give him energy BACK in the form of bread - ETC. etc.

What's the big deal?

[intuition]

They are all in it for the money.

[eternal_spirit]

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Stuart Wilde
Stuart Wilde has written fifteen books on consciousness and awareness. His perceptive and quirky way of writing has won him a loyal readership over the years

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Stuart Wilde is an author and international lecturer, and one of the real characters of the self-help, human potential movement. His style is humorous, poignant, and transformational. He is the author of 14 books, which include the titles Life Was Never Meant to Be a Struggle, The Little Money Bible, Miracles, Silent Power, Whispering Winds of Change, and Infinite Self.

http://www.hayhouse.com/authorbio.php?id=188

[limelady]

Yep, SW made a LOT of money, but he gave it all away and these
days he travels light.

I believe he gave his 15 bedroom mansion in Sydney to some charitable
trust for use as a childrens home or something.

Nobody's all good or all bad, people are just people, and Stuie's just
Stuie.....take him or leave him. :D

[synergy777]

http://www.menstuff.org/columns/wilde/archive.html

more Lessons of the Shadow

In Mel Gibson's film, The Passion of Christ, there is a strange scene in the Garden of Gethsemane at night. A pale, devilish-looking being appears, and a maggot comes out of her nose and goes back in again. She says to Jesus, "No one man can bear the full burden of sin...saving souls is too costly." In essence she was saying no man is big enough to take away the sins of the world. She was Gibson's addition to the script, her line is not in the Gospels. But he was very clever in adding it because he obviously sees the truth of it. The maggot-lady represents Jesus' subconscious shadow talking to him about his darkness. She is his feminine softness appearing in the moonlight pointing out his arrogance, foolishness and macho.

Jesus always denied his dark side. He was tempted three times in the desert by that darkness. First, the Devil said, "If you are who you say you are turn these stones into bread." It is part of our dark side to want to become the great provider, and have millions admire us and thank us for our success and generosity. It is how we get to play god. The film Pretty Woman was a huge hit because it tells the story of a street girl raised up by a billionaire to become his queen. The ego wants to be miraculously raised up, or it wants to be the one that does the raising--the god-like being that can descend from a great height to bestow grace and favor and healing upon ordinary people. It is the narcissistic psychosis of the would-be savior. The problem in the desert was that Jesus couldn't turn stones into bread. His shadow was showing him that.


it seems he is suffering from the very thing he warned us about, the claridad, irony, you gotta love it.

http://www.heartoftheinitiate.com/library/articles/claridad-the-primal-trick

[danielg]

Those links don't work syn.

[synergy777]

yeah, i just clicked on the fuckers. try the last one on the bottom, my bad, will go and edit

try this bro

http://www.heartoftheinitiate.com/library/articles/claridad-the-primal-trick

[synergy777]

http://www.heartoftheinitiate.com/library/articles/claridad-the-primal-trick

Claridad: The Primal Trick

Article by Stuart Wilde

There is term in shamanism called claridad, it comes from the word clarity but in fact, it is the opposite of clarity. Often on an Ayahuasca journey the student will enter into the primal force in all things, it's like stumbling into the arms of God. At first they are overawed but when they return they imagine they are God, or the embodiment of God: Jesus, Buddha, whatever. That is what the shamans call claridad—the false prophet.

In the seminar business we call them 'the forty-fours'. In numerology the Christ Consciousness is 44. So our use of the term describes their pretense to a god-like status. The forty-fours are very grand and holy and chosen. They make a great show of loving others, while silently looking down their nose at people. They are always bad news. They cause trouble and sometimes they become angry when others don't see them in the same divine light.

The forty-fours are everywhere, some only have a mild form of the disquiet, they are pompous say, others buy claridad full-on and they are wearing diapers on their heads and wandering around in robes and so forth—good for a giggle but it's a bit deadly really.

We all suffer from a touch of the forty-fours from time-to-time, the trick is to nip it in the bud quickly. But if you really do think you are Jesus ask yourself this, "Am I still here?" If you are Christ you will have a command of twenty-six dimensions and you would be able to walk in and out of this space-time continuum, basically if you are still here you aren't Christ-sorry. And even if you can walk out of here, you still might not be Christ as doing so might be as common as muck one day. But using "Am I still here?" is a good way of evaluating your current progress, testing your level of Jesusness for any semblance of truth.

Claridad is comical and tragic. It is there to protect the divine and to trick you into your own destruction. If you get a really bad dose of claridad it can kill you. This because eventually you have to set up your own crucifixion to sustain the illusion of your divinity. Cancer is a form of claridad; rogue cells that eat healthy ones to sustain their illusion of immortality. There has never been a case of cancer that didn't go to its death. Either the cells are killed by treatment or the immune system, or they die once the person passes away.

One can't really heal a forty-four, one has to wait until something awful happens to them to bring them back down. You can help a bit by bowing down and pretending to recognize their divinity that will keep them alive for a bit, but try not to piss in your pants laughing, it spoils the cure. Then rise when allowed and flee. There could be a thunderbolt someplace around there quite soon.

http://www.heartoftheinitiate.com/library/articles/six-steps-of-claridad

Six Steps of Claridad

Article by Stuart Wilde
I talked last time about the term claridad, the Shaman's joke that describes a student's lack of clarity—his or her stupidity.

Claridad is a dysfunction, an anomaly, that comes about when people on an Aya' journey say, experience the vastness of the Primal Source in all things. At first they are over awed, then they believe themselves to be the Primal Source, or at the very least the embodiment of it, or they see themselves as the Chosen One, the message bringer. He or she that has been especially selected from six billion souls to carry back the energy or the power from its celestial resting place to enlighten and heal humanity. Of course, the shamans fall about laughing at all this but claridad is serious as some people go round the bend on it.

The process is more or less the same for each person depending on the degree of foolishness they need to expose from within themselves.

The first step is the Self-Anointing process:
This is when the fool decides he is the One. It can be triggered by any small thing, not just an Ayahuasca journey. A stain appears on the fridge door that looks like Jesus, and a mental voice tells him that he is special among men, and that all his hopes and dreams of becoming rich and famous are about to be made manifest. He has been chosen by a Higher Authority. The Self-Anointing is the mental process of buying the story—believing in it because the claridad sufferer so desperately wants to believe it. It's a narcissistic psychosis that plays to his arrogance.

The second step involves an appeal for Ratification:
Now he quickly needs the dove to appear and a voice from heaven to say "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased." In the absence of that he will seek out his master or a guru or some person he considers spiritually elevated to ratify him. In the same way as the Christian kings of old traveled to Rome to be ratified by the Pope.

There is an inverted power-play in the ratification because what the claridad sufferer actually wants to say to the master is, "You thought I was a nobody, an ordinary student, just a back-seat member of the congregation, but I was in hiding. In fact, I am very special—the Anointed One. And by the way master, you are a fool and a nobody because you didn't see it. I am better than you."

The third step involves Debasing Others:
This step follows naturally from step two. The Anointed One has to trash, and get rid of and make wrong all the other shamans, teachers and masters, in order to establish the reality of his authority. So the claridad sufferer fights with others and causes trouble. It's a combative step. But the shaman knows what's happening and he or she won't play ball. They walk away and leave the fool to his madness.

The fourth step involves Soliciting Observers:
How things become 'real' is for the claridad to be observed as the One. So if you are channeling a message from the Higher Powers you need an audience to observe that. If you become President, people observe you in the pomp and pageantry of the presidency, and that is how you are made real. There is never a time when you are not just an ordinary Joe acting out the presidency, but it is in people observing that that the idea of your elevated status becomes real. That is why people buy red sports cars. Red is the easiest color to see and a sports car makes a lot of noise, who will miss noticing the very special person going past? The one that is so very different to all the others.

Sometimes the solicitation for observers is inverted, so the claridad will say, "Please don't tell anyone who I am, I don't want any followers. I don't want to be treated as special." You see pop stars do this in interviews all the time. They love to say, "I am just ordinary," meaning, I am very far from ordinary. The inversion is a marketing tool for in fact, the claridad wants all the things he says he doesn't want. He wants people to adore him and fall upon him in reverence. He wants to be recognized and admired and worshiped. So by asking people to keep his specialness a secret he promotes the story. If you want an idea to enter the mind of humanity as an established fact, you only have to surround it with a bit of mystery and make it into a hush-hush conspiracy and everyone will believe it.

Going into Jerusalem Jesus said, "Who do they say I am?" That is a classic claridad statement. If any one of his disciples had had his wits about him he could have saved Jesus. He could have replied, "They say you're a work-shy, rather ordinary carpenter from Nazareth, now stop mucking about JC, and pretending, and let's have a beer or two and then go home."

Step Five involves Anger:
This comes about when others don't see the claridad as special or chosen or anything but ordinary. Now the claridad gets furious as his dream and his arrogance has been challenged. He needs to cause a scene and take on the established authority to prove himself. So he throws the money changers out of the temple, because he is so special and they are not special. They have established separateness from others by being rich and handling money; he is probably piss poor but he is above money, better than money. His separateness comes from his divinity. In his mind he is pure gold, for the raiment of the Chosen One must be pure gold, mustn't it?

Step Six is the Crucifixion
If very few or none at all, observe the Chosen One as chosen, and if he has the dysfunction of claridad in its extreme form then the only way to prove his divinity it is to have a self-arranged crucifixion. Here the man's shadow works out a way to sacrifice him. It may not be actual death but a form of simulated death. The guy gets sick or goes bankrupt and/or his whole life falls apart.

It's the idea that says, if I go over the cliff in my red Ferrari will you love me, will you remember me as special and different, will you feel sorry you didn't acknowledge my divinity in time?"

The alternative Step Six:
The alternative step six is when the fool is rescued by someone, his spouse say, and brought back to earth. He hits the ground with a terrible clunk, and for a while he bares the bruises of the fallen angel Icarus, who flew too close to the sun and burnt his wings and fell to earth.

He has the option to go back and make good on the trouble he caused and apologize to all those that he hurt but he is usually either too embarrassed, or too arrogant to do so, and so he doesn't bother. And then there is always a small part of the narcissistic psychosis that stays with him. He can never forget the time when it was almost true—a time when he was God for a short while. It's an infection that never leaves, a wound that is so deep that it cannot ever be completely healed.


http://www.heartoftheinitiate.com/library/articles/women-and-claridad

Women and Claridad

Article by Stuart Wilde
In two other articles here I talk about the illusion of claridad, which is a shaman’s term that describes the opposite of clarity. Claridad is an illusion that effects some spiritual travelers when they come in touch with the godhead or the primal source in all things. They start to believe that they have been divinely chosen, they imagine they are a great avatar or the returned Jesus, here to save humanity. It’s a narcissistic psychosis that usually effects men but women also suffer from claridad though they don’t usually get it as bad. The women can’t come back from a transdimensional journey pretending to be Jesus so they settle for other titles. Sometimes they decide they are Mary Magdalene, the kind-hearted whore, reputed to be the wife of Jesus. If you can’t be Jesus, Mrs. Jesus might be the next best thing.

Other times, they decide they are Temple Maidens, chosen to vector the celestial healing power to unfortunate men who are too daft to manage on their own. In simple terms it’s "licensed to bonk for god." Or in extreme cases, the female claridad sufferer decides she is a divine goddess, the embodiment of the feminine principal. She elevates herself to being the reincarnation of Nefertiti, Queen of the Nile. In her mind she is now the ‘Regina of the Sacred Vagina.’ A women of unparalleled divinity, beauty, sensuality and wonderfulness. A self-endorsed deity.

Now it gets a bit scary, woe betide anyone that doesn’t agree. From this platform she fights with others, women usually, to establish her authority, just as the male claridad fights with his shaman and other men. Sometimes the Regina-type rules vicariously by controlling the king. She defends her position as his confidant and advisor, and she controls those who have access to the king. She becomes the power behind the throne if she doesn’t have a throne of her own.

Another female form of claridad is when she decides she is the Delphic oracle and she’ll channel the Higher Powers for mere mortals so they can comprehend their fate. The Delphic oracle sat in a high-chair overlooking a wide, shallow bowl, filled with water. It was a high throne from which she could look down and pontificate. There is nothing wrong with helping people if you have the knowledge and you are wise. The defining line is whether you make a big show of it or not. Are you quiet and humble, going about your simple life, or have you bought the claridad story and now you are making a fool of yourself showing off?

The magical healer is another mild form of the same narcissism. This sometimes effects those that do body work or hands-on healing. They come to believe they are a vessel for the divine light, channeling the power for others. But almost all hands-on healing is sexual from the root chakra. That doesn’t invalidate it in my view, but it is easy for a healer to get carried away in his or her ego imagining all sorts of phantasmagorical things. It’s the desire to be seen as part of the miraculous that leads the healer astray. If you make too much of your miraculous healing powers, it puts you in a phony, god-like pose. Anytime you are acting out a false divinity however mild, you are in a claridad of sorts. It puts you in the crime of the Fallen Angles. The trick is to heal people for free and be humble and keep it to yourself, that way your ego doesn’t run amok posing as a divine instrument of god, a savior.

Females can carry the mild form of the claridad dysfunction a lot easier and a lot longer than men, because part of their claridad of being divinely special is fueled by over-expressing their sensuality, and creating desire and approval in would-be partners. Of course, they can sustain the allure of that into old age. When you see older women dressed provocatively as young girls might; ‘mutton dressed as lamb’ we call it in England, it’s a form of claridad, they are selling the allure hoping to compete. They usually do quite well because the young girls are more skittish and choosy, while mutton needs to be wanted and by many partners, so she’ll be off and running at the slightest nod or a wink.

Claridad can get you into loads of trouble but women have the advantage that they don’t usually go to a self-arranged crucifixion, which is the eventual end to the male story, part of his illusion of being Jesus. For him to convince people that he really is divine and Jesus and here to take away the sins of the world, his subconscious arranges for his own crucifixion, to prove the point. I discuss that more fully in another article here called The Six Steps of Claridad.

Now the Biblical Jesus was very interesting, as he either was the real McCoy, or he had the worse dose of claridad ever seen. It established the church and killed many hundreds of millions of people, and it made a billion others very sad, while robbing a billion more. Then it imposed a terrible restriction and a mental confinement and torment on those that bought the story. If only JC had gotten off his silly donkey and not gone into Jerusalem, posing as a god, the world would have been a much safer and happier place. I think if he really was the son of God he should have kept quiet about it. Though I am sure some other troubled soul would have come along and taken his claridad role; our evolution is littered with spiritual mountains to climb.

I know if I were Jesus I’d keep very quiet about it and not mention it to a single soul. I saw Mel’s film, it all looked jolly painful! I’m telling you, this Jesus business can be rather deadly. It’s not for the light-hearted, wispy, fairy-folk that I am used to hanging out with. But still, we all suffer from some kind of illusion and madness and most of what we believe about spirituality and God is complete rubbish. That is why I have so much love and respect for the Goddess Aya’, she takes you and shows you a small part of the real thing. She re-wires your brain to understand that you can never understand, it’s all too vast.

But one should not be harsh to judge the foolishness of others, unless they are causing serious trouble that is. Instead, we should concentrate on our own silliness, watching that it doesn’t develop too ferociously or too quickly, in a way that can damage us and others. Pomposities lurk in the corners of our minds to trap us when we are weak and vulnerable. Claridad is an evolutionary trick that has been played throughout history, to send us lot—the Fallen Angels, the wrong way, to the rotten karma we probably deserve.

Of course, some people saw the trick in time and they jumped off the spiritually sinking ship. It was night and they couldn’t swim well, and they were all very lost in the cold darkness of not knowing. But they eventually discovered that if they relaxed and held hands with others, without struggling or competing, they could stay together and float. A fog descended on them and they were in limbo for my years, floating through a vast Nowhere. Eventually they came upon a beautiful island. It was another world and there to greet them was….

You guessed it!

Nobody was there to greet them. It was a heaven that had been granted to them because they had learned how to float with others. They greeted each other.

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he speaks some great stuff, though i think is suffering from claridad himself by charging, creating an elite circle. really we are all yashuah, we are all neo, we are created equally. we are just afraid to look within, contemplate, face the future. like the passage from marriane williamson

http://marianne.com/book/index.htm

“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

----from A Return to Love, by Marianne Williamson.

all of us are special and equal. none are the only son of god, in fact the teachers like yashuah, buddha, never said they were the special one, they came to say, look at me, normal, full of faults, not perfect, but i can do it, so can you, walk beside me as brother/sisters not behind me as followers. personally knowing the about the tyranny of the majority, only a prat would make himself a figurehead, look at the backstabbing celebs, atheletes get, the problems with fame, the fairweather friends/yes men, the dishonest wives/husbands etc, its a nightmare. who knows, next time in your local, that bloke having a beer, just being normal, might be the one, lol although, being a bloke, knowing football, he would most definately be a man united fan, lol come on saturday, lifes crap without football.

[intruder]

YES.....BUT!!!!!!!!!! Ol' Stuie has been raped by transdimensionals!!!!!
There's your answer in a "nutshell".

[sensimillia]

Oh ffs, changing your inner self costs fuck all!!! imo:rolleyes:

But if you feel you need to spend lots of money to change then go for it.:D

very true. is this the stuart with the etheric spiders munching away on pot smokers?

[edelweiss pirate]

I don't like Stuart Wilde.

He's making a set of ground rules for the enlightenment and that is fucked.

I think the money thing is a great idea because it's only the rich who will be led astray. Camel Eye Needle, springs to mind.

[phoebe]

So Stuart Wilde IS human after all.
And I had my doubts, I have to say.
;)

[supermanny]

The money he charges is relative to the level of commitment he is demanding from his students, it's a way of weeding out those that are not serious and time wasters..
If you are serious about what Stuart is offering then the money shouldn't matter, if you don't have the money then you'll find it..
Excellent point, montag! I have taught and helped teach many classes, (most of them free,) and I've noticed this too. For instance a friend and I taught a class on ascension at his house (no charge) and we had over 50 people show up, and we were worried about finding a bigger space, but about 6-8 weeks later we were down to 4 students. I've noticed if we charge $100 we usually start off with 5-6 people in a typical class and finish with 10-12 people. It's really wierd, but I think subconsciously people don't value something that doesn't cost anything.

On the other hand, I'm not sticking up for Stuart Wilde. I have most of his books; been following him for many years, but I must say this doesn't seem right, to charge that much, but who knows, maybe he's giving it all to the starving children in Africa, or something.

[synergy777]

edel so does matthew 16:26

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[peter19]

i think hes ok, well what he says is, but him chargeing alot means he must have a very high value of hes work. and not only that but he seems abit too money oriented to me, like telling people how to get rich and that what they put into the universe they will get back in the shape of money. he said something along the lines of " get them in and bill em" (thats not in context though) but from what i get he tells people that if you want to get rich you have to think rich and "bill em" for your richness. hes work is pritty good though, but no-way would i pay that much to listen to it.

why does he give hes money away at one point, then charge for hes work?. it seems abit funny.

[danielg]

How can his work satisfy anyones thirst for knowledge and awareness? No offence to people that have bought into him, but he seems like a layman with the gift of gab, nothing more.
Think of all the genius's that have authored books, from physics to psychology (which he covers), and given that no one on here is stupid, how can anyone feel tested from what he's wrote? His books cost the same, for example, as books by Carl Jung... why settle for farrrrrr lesser? :confused:

[synergy777]

dannyg true, look at nikola tesla, john nash, oppenheimer, socrates etc.

[seanx]

A lot of peopel here seem to have a very limited, and very
negative, christian-indoctrinated view of money ( money is bad,
it is the root of all evil...and all the rest of this nonsense).

if you read Stuart Wilde book on the subject, 'The Tick to having
money' - not only will it help you to see money for what it is...
just energy, not GOOD or BAD...but it will also help you to get some...
as much or as little as you want.

Money IS a game we play with ourselves.

But it is also a practical book. it is for people who want to put new ideas
into action and not just read or theorize about.

[peter19]

A lot of peopel here seem to have a very limited, and very
negative, christian-indoctrinated view of money ( money is bad,
it is the root of all evil...and all the rest of this nonsense).

if you read Stuart Wilde book on the subject, 'The Tick to having
money' - not only will it help you to see money for what it is...
just energy, not GOOD or BAD...but it will also help you to get some...
as much or as little as you want.

Money IS a game we play with ourselves.

But it is also a practical book. it is for people who want to put new ideas
into action and not just read or theorize about.

i am not a christian and dont believe its evil or out lol. i just think its a piece of paper. if people want to send out all there energy to collect as much as possible then ok. the pieces of paper can open up possabiltys and its true that if you have a good vibe about you things will open up for you and people will help you out. if your vibe is just to get there money and not a real vibe to help, people will know and you wont make much at all. well why does it matter anyways?, your intention is to help people isnt it?

but is all what matters, makeing money?. its like you might think it is, people should teach you how to be happy with anything, be happy sitting in shit, if you reached that state you wouldnt need money to go any were or buy you a knew house, you would be happy in yourself. everything you buy with money is fleeting. it makes you happy abit, but then after abit you want abit more and if you get caught in the game of it youll waste half your life trying to "be somebody" then once you have reached that position it doesnt satisfy you, its a waste of time.

but if he makes all this money to help people and give it to people who are very poor, then i admire him massively if he did that. it would show that it helps sustain him but he doesnt need it to entertain him.

:)

[synergy777]

its the amount of money for his special/elite stuff, hundreds of dollars. his books, fair play to that.

[peter19]

i just want to add though - "its easy to see the speck in anothers eye, but not the log in your own". i think jesus said that :D.

[synergy777]

http://s206949448.online.de/site/users/public/events/overview_public.php?&sessionid=

check the prices. look i think he is a very intelligent person, the articles i posted, confirmed, helped with alot of stuff, which i will be eternally greatful for. but the prices are steep, maybe its his costs, i don't know his margin etc. slavation ain't free, lol

ps.according to him, yashuah was a claridad, aren't we all, lol

[william_mac]

i don't even know who the guy is.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[fantana]

Stuart acknowledges that the prices are high but he says it stops those who are not meant to go yet from going.

So if you don't have the money, save it up, if you want to go.

You can get the funds, if you can't, hahahahaha

[montag]

This debate is really futile, if you don't like Stuart Wilde and you think he is over priced don't go to his seminars, it's that simple..

I really don't understand what all the fuss is about..

[synergy777]

stuart wilde is the prada of spiritual devlopment, lol

[montag]

i don't even know who the guy is.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5760