UK Government Petition: No Swine Vaccine

[pduffy4]

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine/

Please sign the above petition. It is only open to UK residents, sadly.

I did not realise at first just how soon the Government was going to start poisoning people with vaccines. SO I made the end date too late. I have e-mailed them to ask for it to be changed to 15 August 2009.

I did actually make a second petition the next day for an August finish and in the comments section said it was to replace the first petition. But they rejected that petition in favour of the fist one. That is just for spite on their part.

Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks.

[lynfowars]

I appreciate your effort, your heart & mind are in the right place.

An ill wind this way blows.

[aldrin]

Yup, all signed up :D

[comma berenices]

I fully support and admire your efforts, thank you,signed

[sexi_co]

Can this be stickied please?

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine/

Please sign the above petition. It is only open to UK residents, sadly.

I did not realise at first just how soon the Government was going to start poisoning people with vaccines. SO I made the end date too late. I have e-mailed them to ask for it to be changed to 15 August 2009.

I did actually make a second petition the next day for an August finish and in the comments section said it was to replace the first petition. But they rejected that petition in favour of the fist one. That is just for spite on their part.

Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks.

I cant see that tptb will give a toss about a few people signing a petition. Its wrong and i hate the fact, but still i fear im right.

:(

[itsallinus]

I just had a sudden realization, even if I don't have the vaccine, others around me will and no doubt they could still spread the virus to me :eek:

[whitenight639]

i for one dont need to sign any pertition, as I KNOW im not having any vaccine, over my cold dead body.

[duffman]

i for one dont need to sign any pertition, as I KNOW im not having any vaccine, over my cold dead body.
x2

[nambo]

One thing you might notice, its when the polititions are on holiday that the events that most need thier urgent attention occur.
Last year was it that we had the mixed liquid bombs on airplanes nonsence along with more Jewish Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

They go on holiday today and come back on 12th October, that way they wont look to blame when they come back to a country full of dead folk.

This petion will therefore not be seen before its too late.

[purdx]

i for one dont need to sign any pertition, as I KNOW im not having any vaccine, over my cold dead body.

Just signed it

Mate, even if the end result is the same at least we are showing we know their game n we don't want it.

[notmarkk]

i for one dont need to sign any pertition, as I KNOW im not having any vaccine, over my cold dead body.

what about other people...

[whitenight639]

what about other people...

if other people are stupid enought to belive there shite and let someone inject them with that crap then so be it, its not like we havnt tried to tell them (im specifically thinking about my family here, so call me a cold hearted bastard, ive tried to tell em).

[humito]

the vaccine is probably going to stop your body from fighting the next pandemic they organise.........

anyway...where are all the poorly pigs..............why dont they catch it and die........it must be a man made virus......we would have a foot and mouth scenario if not with millions of pigs infected?

[rise_to_addiction]

Done!

[pipsicle]

I cant see that tptb will give a toss about a few people signing a petition. Its wrong and i hate the fact, but still i fear im right.

:(

I disagree.
1) It may well be more than a few people
2) They know we're right.

[sardonicus]

I just had a sudden realization, even if I don't have the vaccine, others around me will and no doubt they could still spread the virus to me

Read enough research now - understand 'their' weaponized man-made,
laboratory-grown human/bird/pig flu virus isn't and never was a naturally
occuring airbourne or socially transmittable virus and it can only infect you
(and kill you) if it's injected into you bloodstream via hyperdermic needle.

MASS VACCINATION PROGRAM = MASS CULLING OF HUMAN BEINGS!!

From David Icke's article:

Patrick Jordan's research uncovers a three-vaccine
system that the Illuminati have developed. The first inoculation turns off
white blood cells (the immune system); the second injects viruses; and the
third switches the immune system on again.

In the middle period viruses are expanding around the body, but the person
doesn't feel sick because the immune system is not fighting them. When the
immune system kicks in again it unleashes such an assault on the virus
cocktail that it kills the body.

This is known as a cytokine storm when the immune system is so
overwhelmed that it sends too many antibodies at the same time to infected
areas of the body and the body kills itself.

Nuff said:

SAY NO TO 'THEIR' SWINE FLU VACCINATION!!

[itsallinus]

Thanks sardonicus for clearing that up for me(slaps wrist for not being arsed to look into it more), I feel a little more reassured now.. peace and love to you :)

[pduffy4]

Got an e-mail to say that they have agreed to amend the petition end date to 15 August 2009.

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine/

Please post on as many blogs as you can remembering to say the it is only open to UK residents.

Will be interesting to see the response.

[derebmun ayad]

I'm all signed up! Many thanks for all your hard work!

BTW having read the posts on this forum I just want to say that I've had a bad case of flu recently (like no other) and I got rid of it myself within about a month. I steered clear of my GP! My colleague at work phoned "that number" to ask them about a sore throat he had and got tamiflu sent to him through a "flu-friend" and was never even seen by a doctor, let alone tested for Swine Flu. He got over his flu - or cold symptoms if you like - within a week. It's crazy. Why are people so gullible and "happy" even to take anything... if they said stick your head in the oven I think they probably would! :confused:

[largejack]

Signed, I wish it would get the millions of responses like the car tracking device petition to Blair, but at least we're doing something. I won't get the vaccine of course in any case.

[godspeed]

done............their gonna have to shoot me......if they can catch me.......:D

[patrish]

Remember that once the summer is over start taking vitamin D3 to boost your immune system. Stay away from echanacia(cant spell it but you know what i mean) as this makes the cyclotine(cant spell that either) storm much worse - you own body attacking itself.
Have some MMS on hand(for more info go to the health section its a sticky)
And keep a positive outlook - dont let the bas***** grind you down!

Pat x

[grenadene]

I've just signed :)

[monkeyboy]

signed, but i think you may have worded it a little differently i would have put more emphasis on the lack of testing or how they couldn`t find a vaccine for normal flu? rather than man made weaponized swine flu virus i think that may be a bit hard for joe public to swallow. still it`s good it`s there you may wake a few up or cause then to look into it.

[steve1964]

I wanna sign but I dont trust them The part that says your address will not be published hmm, but then they have your address and know who you are and I fear middle of the night visitors from the PTB.

[rashhead]

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Ban the use of swine flu vaccinations due to the fact the vaccinations contain a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public

I couldn't possibly sign up to this.

What if you are wrong and the (bizarrely inadequately tested) vaccine is actually helpful.

Should you not say in your next petition that 'we do not agree to being treated with any chemicals, in the assumed capacity of a Doctor!

[ilponn]

Rash head stop being a sheeple , sign up i did , and swine flu is man made .

[baxter]

Signed up!

[rowantk]

Remember that once the summer is over start taking vitamin D3 to boost your immune system. Stay away from echanacia(cant spell it but you know what i mean) as this makes the cyclotine(cant spell that either) storm much worse - you own body attacking itself.
Have some MMS on hand(for more info go to the health section its a sticky)
And keep a positive outlook - dont let the bas***** grind you down!

Pat x

Which foods contain D3? Or can you get it as an extract? Echanacia? Why would this make it worse? Do you mean it will make it worse IF you had the course of jabs? But its a good immune system booster if you didnt have the jabs? What about other natural immune booster? Like oil of oregano? Not picking hole just like more info if you can :)

Im not taking the jab. HELL NOOOOOOOOOO! Im telling everyone not to do it, its fucked up. I think (hoping) we'll all be surprised at how many people will refuse it. But either way (used or not) the governement will still have spend millions maybe billions of our tax money!
I have some friends and family working in a local hospital. I fear that they will be getting it. They're be in the first target groups being front line health workers :(

[sexi_co]

I disagree.
1) It may well be more than a few people
2) They know we're right.

I agree with you completely, but still think that if they want the vaccine out there, they will make it happen, regardless of what the masses say. They'll show the few people 'for it' on the news, make it look like we are the minority and push it thru. Its what they do best.

:(

[sexi_co]

i for one dont need to sign any pertition, as I KNOW im not having any vaccine, over my cold dead body.

x3

:D

[sardonicus]

This from the NHS West Midlands Health Authority: 24/07/2009

(Speaking of the recent death of NHS patients who had 'flu' but died because
of serious underlying health problems):

DR RASHMI SHUKLA, Regional Director of Public Health, said:

"...whilst tragic for all involved, these cases should be kept in context with
the many people who have had swine flu and recovered after just a few days
of experiencing mild illness. WE wish to take this opportunity to remind the
public that for most people THIS IS NOT A SERIOUS ILLNESS and that they
should start to feel better after a few days without needing to go to their GP
or A&E."

OK, SO WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT PREPARING A MASS VACCINATION
PROGRAM FOR EVERYBODY?? SURELY, ONLY THOSE WITH SERIOUS
UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS NEEDS 'THEIR' SWINE FLU VACCINE.

As David Icke states in his article:

"Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide die from 'ordinary flu' each year.
People with 'ordinary flu' who die are being wrongly (or wilfully?)diagnosed as
having 'Swine Flu' to cause mass panic and send people rushing for the Illuminati
labarotory engineered human/bird/pig flu virus vaccination..."

which will give them swine flu!!

THE SWINE FLU VIRUS IS IN THEIR VACCINE!!

Link: http://www.birminghampost.net/news/newsaggregator//tm_headline=six-swine-flu-sufferers-die-in-west-midlands%26method=full%26objectid=24227582%26sitei d=65233-name_page.html

[sardonicus]

Folks, check out this page of the SUN NEWSPAPER

Talk about trying to cause mass panic!!

The first article: 100,000 NEW SWINE FLU CASES

is complete lies and bullshit!! The 100,000 so called swine flu cases
are just numbers of healthy people who have phoned the new Flu Hotline
just to ask questions and for information.

Government propaganda big time!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/swineflu/

[sardonicus]

And check out this:

LOL. You can check out the website, telephone the hotline and even
download leaflets, or use the online sympton and treatment assessment tool - WTF!!

The PTB have certainly put a lot of time, effort, and money into their
fake pandemic / mass human culling exercise...

http://www.nhs.uk/AlertsEmergencies/Pages/Pandemicflualert.aspx

[dude111]

If i knew of a VALID address i would sign this for you guys!!

Good luck!

EDIT:

Posting this on some other UK sites :)

[bicycle]

I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide
* aluminum phosphate
* ammonium sulfate
* amphotericin B
* animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
* dog kidney, monkey kidney,
* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
* calf (bovine) serum
* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum
* formaldehyde
* formalin
* gelatin
* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
* hydrolized gelatin
* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
* monosodium glutamate (MSG)
* neomycin
* neomycin sulfate
* phenol red indicator
* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
* potassium diphosphate
* potassium monophosphate
* polymyxin B
* polysorbate 20
* polysorbate 80
* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
* residual MRC5 proteins
* sorbitol
* tri(n)butylphosphate,
* VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
* washed sheep red blood

http://www.fmotl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1285&p=12035

[rowantk]

i am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide
* aluminum phosphate
* ammonium sulfate
* amphotericin b
* animal tissues: Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
* dog kidney, monkey kidney,
* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
* calf (bovine) serum
* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum
* formaldehyde
* formalin
* gelatin
* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
* hydrolized gelatin
* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, merthiolate(r))
* monosodium glutamate (msg)
* neomycin
* neomycin sulfate
* phenol red indicator
* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
* potassium diphosphate
* potassium monophosphate
* polymyxin b
* polysorbate 20
* polysorbate 80
* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
* residual mrc5 proteins
* sorbitol
* tri(n)butylphosphate,
* vero cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
* washed sheep red blood

http://www.fmotl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1285&p=12035

yummy!!!! :)

[dude111]

Yes not good having all that UN-NEEDED stuff in there....

Why is it there anyway?

[gaznix]

and Vitamin C is what I'll be taking.

[a_bassist]

Best of luck to you guys, I hope you get a lot of signatures.
I wish I could sign it but I live in the U.S.
Maybe someone should start a U.S. one?
I would but I wouldn't know what to say.

[largejack]

You might as well retract the petition Duffy, 66 have now signed in what... nearly a week? There are more than 66 on these forums at any one time. There is no excuse for this lame amount! :(

It'll only prove to the government that everyone bar a tiny handful are in favour of it. I admire your efforts, but it's looking as though it will prove counter productive if you go ahead with it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Unless it's an issue which charges people they're not interested, like the meters in cars proposed by Blair which got millions of signatures. Still 66 on a forum with this much coverage is inexcusable.

[nayan]

Appreciate it pduffy =)

[bicycle]

Best of luck to you guys, I hope you get a lot of signatures.
I wish I could sign it but I live in the U.S.
Maybe someone should start a U.S. one?
I would but I wouldn't know what to say.

Here's a form designed by Ken Anderson you can give them to fill out -- although there is no physician anywhere on earth who will sign it. (American, of course, but could fairly simply be converted to the UK)

Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety

I (Physician's name, degree)_________________________, _____ am a physician licensed to practice medicine in the State of ________________. My State license number is _______________ , and my DEA number is _______________. My medical specialty is ________________________

I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for or administer to my patients. In the case of (Patient's name) ___________________________ , age _________ , whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that justify the recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will protect against them:
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________
Risk Factor ____________________________________________
Vaccination ___________________________________________

I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide
* aluminum phosphate
* ammonium sulfate
* amphotericin B
* animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
* dog kidney, monkey kidney,
* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
* calf (bovine) serum
* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum
* formaldehyde
* formalin
* gelatin
* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
* hydrolized gelatin
* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
* monosodium glutamate (MSG)
* neomycin
* neomycin sulfate
* phenol red indicator
* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
* potassium diphosphate
* potassium monophosphate
* polymyxin B
* polysorbate 20
* polysorbate 80
* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
* residual MRC5 proteins
* sorbitol
* tri(n)butylphosphate,
* VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
* washed sheep red blood

and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. I have researched reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury thimerosol causes severe neurological and immunological damage, and find that they are not credible.

I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40 (SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals. I hereby warrant that the vaccines I employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses. (Alternately, I hereby warrant that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no substantive risk to my patient.)

I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (Patient's name) _______________ _______________________ do not contain any tissue from aborted human babies (also known as "fetuses").

In order to protect my patient's well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants.

STEPS TAKEN: __________________________________________________ ____
__________________________________________________ __________________
__________________________________________________ __________________
__________________________________________________ __________________

I have personally investigated the reports made to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) and state that it is my professional opinion that the vaccines I am recommending are safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.

The bases for my opinion are itemized on Exhibit A, attached hereto, -- "Physician's Bases for Professional Opinion of Vaccine Safety." (Please itemize each recommended vaccine separately along with the bases for arriving at the conclusion that the vaccine is safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.)

The professional journal articles I have relied upon in the issuance of this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety are itemized on Exhibit B , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles in Support of Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety."

The professional journal articles that I have read which contain opinions adverse to my opinion are itemized on Exhibit C , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles Contrary to Physician's Opinion of Vaccine Safety"

The reasons for my determining that the articles in Exhibit C were invalid are delineated in Attachment D , attached hereto, -- "Physician's Reasons for Determining the Invalidity of Adverse Scientific Opinions."

Hepatitis B

I understand that 60 percent of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years. I understand that in 1996 only 54 cases of Hepatitis B were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 year age group. I understand that in the VAERS, there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 year age group, with 47 deaths reported.

I understand that 50 percent of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after exposure. I understand that 30 percent will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime immunity. I understand that 20 percent will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95 percent will fully recover and have lifetime immunity.

I understand that 5 percent of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic carriers of the disease. I understand that 75 percent of the chronic carriers will live with an asymptomatic infection and that only 25 percent of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection. The following scientific studies have been performed to demonstrate the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine in children under the age of 5 years.
__________________________________________________ _____________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________

In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have enumerated said non-vaccine measures on Exhibit D , attached hereto, "Non-vaccine Measures to Protect Against Risk Factors" I am issuing this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my professional capacity as the attending physician to (Patient's name) ________________________________. Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement in both my business and individual capacities and hereby waive any statutory, Common Law, Constitutional, UCC, international treaty, and any other legal immunities from liability lawsuits in the instant case. I issue this document of my own free will after consultation with competent legal counsel whose name is _____________________________, an attorney admitted to the Bar in the State of __________________ .
__________________________________ (Name of Attending Physician)
__________________________________ L.S. (Signature of Attending Physician)
Signed on this _______ day of ______________ A.D. ________
Witness: _______________________________ Date: _____________________
Notary Public: ___________________________Date: ______________________



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[sardonicus]

You might as well retract the petition Duffy, 66 have now signed in what... nearly a week? There are more than 66 on these forums at any one time. There is no excuse for this lame amount! It'll only prove to the government that everyone bar a tiny handful are in favour of it. I admire your efforts, but it's looking as though it will prove counter productive if you go ahead with it. I hope I'm wrong though.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT:

Petition's to the 'government' are compiled BY THE INFORMED, FOR THE INFORMED. These days, a lot of people are very suspicious of giving any of their personal details out on the internet, so it's a bit harsh to criticise anyone on this forum for their lack of interest or complacency.

Perhaps it's the 'name and address required' field that puts most people off - isn't that like saying, 'Screw you British government, I refuse the swine flu vaccinations' - and oh, by the way, here's my name, address and telephone number... come and get me.'

Petitions do have their uses, but only to a point. Do you agree that it would be far better to concentrate on getting the TRUTH INFORMATION out to the uninformed / ignorant / sleepers? The vast majority of people really don't have the slightest clue about what's going on in this country and they get all their info (panic and fear-inducing hype) from the controlled media . government propaganda machine. So may be better to concentrate on prep and distribution (hopefully on a large scale) of flyers, leaflets, explaining everything about the real INTENT of 'their' swine flu vaccination program.

Even copying David Icke's "It's the VACCINE" article and printing it up into a handout/flyer will reach many more uninformed people than asking people to sign a petition will. Can be left on buses, trains, tube, in public places, bars, restaurants, etc.

Just my ten penneth...

[dude111]

You might as well retract the petition Duffy, 66 have now signed in what... nearly a week? There are more than 66 on these forums at any one time. There is no excuse for this lame amount! :(Well its better than doing nothing at all......

All this does is proves how many in the world ARE ASLEEP AS TO HOW EVIL THE WORLD IS THEY LIVE IN!! (And thats scary/sad)

[pduffy4]

From an email I received
Glaxo is starting widespread tests for swine flu vaccination as of september according to a pressreport of "Focus Magazin" in Germany. (Will be released on sunday, very serous and widespread in Germany)

According to this report Glaxo is seeking hundreds of volunteers in order to test their vaccination. A spokewoman of Glaxo, Daria Munsel, told the newsmagazin, that the company is searching for hundreds of testpersons and also children to create an approval study for the medicament.

Physicians are recruiting "testpersons". Also Novartis has allready begun to test its vaccination stuff.


Virologist Alexander Kekulé from University (Universität) Halle-Wittenberg told FOCUS that this tests could be very dangerous specially for children because of severe sideeffekts.

Full report in German:

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/200907253389/Dies-Das/Scheinegrippe-Kinder-sollen-Impfstoff-testen.html

Scheinegrippe: Kinder sollen Impfstoff testen
Impfstoff-Herstellers Glaxo will Stoff gegen Schweingrippe auch an Kindern testen. "Die Zulassungsstudien sollen ab September an mehreren hundert Personen durchgeführt werden, darunter auch an Kindern." Ärzte sollen bei der Auswahl von Versuchspersonen behilflich sein.

[rydeon]

Just signed it

Mate, even if the end result is the same at least we are showing we know their game n we don't want it.

Exactly!

I've just signed it and there's only 70 names on the list!

Jeez, the Concealed Carry Firearm petition has miles more than a sweeping no to the vaccine isn't garnering interest!

[pduffy4]

You might as well retract the petition Duffy, 66 have now signed in what... nearly a week? There are more than 66 on these forums at any one time. There is no excuse for this lame amount! :(

It'll only prove to the government that everyone bar a tiny handful are in favour of it. I admire your efforts, but it's looking as though it will prove counter productive if you go ahead with it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Unless it's an issue which charges people they're not interested, like the meters in cars proposed by Blair which got millions of signatures. Still 66 on a forum with this much coverage is inexcusable.

I agree it is a pathetic response from more that 2000 people having looked at this thread. However it is not known how many of those are eligible to sign, but I am sure it is a lot more than 76 which is now the number who have signed.

I will need to try to get a news paper to publish the web address.

As far as people on this forum not wanting the Government to have their address, the Government already have your address for looking at this forum so you are not helping yourself any. So just sign it for each member of you family as well it is nit one per household.

[gaias child]

signed

[free_soul]

You might as well retract the petition Duffy, 66 have now signed in what... nearly a week? There are more than 66 on these forums at any one time. There is no excuse for this lame amount! :(

It'll only prove to the government that everyone bar a tiny handful are in favour of it. I admire your efforts, but it's looking as though it will prove counter productive if you go ahead with it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Unless it's an issue which charges people they're not interested, like the meters in cars proposed by Blair which got millions of signatures. Still 66 on a forum with this much coverage is inexcusable.

Its not the amount of people its the amount of noise us people make.

David Icke for example was 1 man making noise and was ridiculed for years, now look they simply cant



Good thread duffy, id take a bullet for this one :)

[marpat]

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine/

Please sign the above petition. It is only open to UK residents, sadly.

I did not realise at first just how soon the Government was going to start poisoning people with vaccines. SO I made the end date too late. I have e-mailed them to ask for it to be changed to 15 August 2009.

I did actually make a second petition the next day for an August finish and in the comments section said it was to replace the first petition. But they rejected that petition in favour of the fist one. That is just for spite on their part.

Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks.

So have you any medical grounds that you can prove to back up your petition otherwise it will be rejected.

[pduffy4]

Hi there. 1st time using the forum and I just want people to know that things are moving up in Scotland regarding highlighting the Truth of this swine flu 'con'. Jane Burgermeisters 112page submission exposing the WHO's involvement in all of this has been handed in to the local police. Statements have been taken and Special Branch informed! Relevant SNP's and MP's have been contacted also. Lets all get this exposed for what it is! Best wishes Truth and Love to One and All.

Which Police Station were the files handed into and who did this?

Who made statements and who took the statements?

Who are the relevant SNP's [I assume you mean MSP's?] and which MPs have been contacted and what did they say?

No point is making a post like the one you did without giving as much detail as you can.

[rashhead]

Who gives a fugg!

Only 95 people have signed this petition!

Stop talking 5hite and start acting!

[pduffy4]

Who gives a fugg!

Only 95 people have signed this petition!

Stop talking 5hite and start acting!

Who are you addressing that too and what exactly have you done? Have you read all of my posts on this thread too? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71579 In there I say what I have done. I thought it would encourage others to do something pro active but it seems not.

[apekteina lordosis]

signed. :)

[purdx]

Who gives a fugg!

Only 95 people have signed this petition!

Stop talking 5hite and start acting!

So exactly how are you helping matters with comments like this????

[frase]

The hysteria seems to be calming down alot now in the MSM.
any thoughts?

[mrmoney]

swine flu has been proven to be completely engineered. baxter filed a patent in august 2008 for it.

furthermore, it is nothing more than a mild flu. only people with compromised immune systems have died from the flu.

even more so, there have been false pandemics in the past. for example, 1976. thousands of people died from the vaccine.

to prepare 60 million vaccines for swine flu is so ridiculous. pure insanity.

now, imagine what will happen in the fall when the regular flu season comes along. people will panic. it's very worrying.

[brainstormer]

By the sounds of this thread, it seems they are making it mandatory, not optional. Is this the case?

I am trying to get this link to everyone on my facebook, but am having to tediously send the link to each of my friends PM inbox individually. Does anyone know a way to get this spread on facebook faster? It seems every man and his dog is on facebook now, so what better way to hit the masses!

[kweli]

By the sounds of this thread, it seems they are making it mandatory, not optional. Is this the case?

I am trying to get this link to everyone on my facebook, but am having to tediously send the link to each of my friends PM inbox individually. Does anyone know a way to get this spread on facebook faster? It seems every man and his dog is on facebook now, so what better way to hit the masses!

You could just post the link (with a little write up) on your FB wall, then all your friends/associates can see it.

[dangermouse]

I just found out that the local schools have sent letters out to parents saying that the kids will not be allowed to attend in september unless they have a swine flu vaccine.

:mad:

I sent an email to RTE but I doubt they will cover it ..

[gilly]

I just found out that the local schools have sent letters out to parents saying that the kids will not be allowed to attend in september unless they have a swine flu vaccine.

:mad:

I sent an email to RTE but I doubt they will cover it ..

Bastards! :mad:

Nothing like that here (yet).

[dangermouse]

Bastards! :mad:

Nothing like that here (yet).

Sent an email to the minister for health too ... see what happens

I also rang a Radio Station here that seem quite interested in the Story.

[no fear free speak]

AND WHILE YOU ARE THERE iF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY::::: PLEASE;;;; SIGN UP FOR JULY 7 TRUTH AS WELL, RELEASE THE EVIDENCE PETITION AT JULY 7 TRUTH CAMPAIGN WEBSITE thanks , all that is needed for evil to florish is for GOOD PEOPLE to do nothing, that is what they are counting on and investing in ... and hoping in time it will all be swept under the bloodstained carpet KEEP ON THE PRESSURE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE to stop these IDIOTS wrecking everything for ever FREEDOM R.I.P.

[no fear free speak]

WAS LISNING TO ALEX JONES RADIO this morning and the same topic came up it seems
the JABs may be a necessity for obtaining employment soon as well :??? god wherever she is HELP US !!!

[no fear free speak]

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine/

Please sign the above petition. It is only open to UK residents, sadly.

I did not realise at first just how soon the Government was going to start poisoning people with vaccines. SO I made the end date too late. I have e-mailed them to ask for it to be changed to 15 August 2009.

I did actually make a second petition the next day for an August finish and in the comments section said it was to replace the first petition. But they rejected that petition in favour of the fist one. That is just for spite on their part.

Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks.

please do sign THERES NOT VERY MANY SIGNED UP YET.! DONT FORGET THE

JULY7 TRUTH CAMPAIGN PETITION IF YOU HAVEN.T ALREADY DONE SO CHEERS.

[dangermouse]

getting the actual letter sent to parents .. will have it tommorow ..

[pduffy4]

Sent an email to the minister for health too ... see what happens

I also rang a Radio Station here that seem quite interested in the Story.

Excellent, I hope the radio station will get back to you. I sent THIS LINK (http://www.i-sis.org.uk/fastTrackSwineFluVaccineUnderFire.php) to PandemicFluTeam@scotland.gsi.gov.uk and actually got a reply back from Brenda Burnett, Pandemic Flu Co-ordination Team, saying that she would "ensure that the article you mention in your e-mail is drawn to the attention of Dr Harry Burns."

She made no mention of the two links I sent about the vaccine patents claimed by Baxter and Novartis which I included. The patents pre-date the 2009 Swine Flu outbreak. Apparently the Mexico outbreak happened close to Baxters Lab!!! Just like the last Foot & Mouth case came from Portandown!!

Patents:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=20090047353&OS=20090047353&RS=20090047353

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220090060950%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20090060950&RS=DN/20090060950

[dangermouse]

Excellent, I hope the radio station will get back to you. I sent THIS LINK (http://www.i-sis.org.uk/fastTrackSwineFluVaccineUnderFire.php) to PandemicFluTeam@scotland.gsi.gov.uk and actually got a reply back from Brenda Burnett, Pandemic Flu Co-ordination Team, saying that she would "ensure that the article you mention in your e-mail is drawn to the attention of Dr Harry Burns."

She made no mention of the two links I sent about the vaccine patents claimed by Baxter and Novartis which I included. The patents pre-date the 2009 Swine Flu outbreak. Apparently the Mexico outbreak happened close to Baxters Lab!!! Just like the last Foot & Mouth case came from Portandown!!

Patents:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=20090047353&OS=20090047353&RS=20090047353

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220090060950%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20090060950&RS=DN/20090060950
just a coincedence nothing to worry about :rolleyes:

[hierophant]

here in germany, a slight progress has taken place: the editor of a pharmaceutical magazine has just criticized the mass vaccination, he warned about the dangers of the vaccine and called the vaccination plan a large scale experiment with the population!!! this is all over the newspapers, really don't know what to make of it...

[antinwo]

here in germany, a slight progress has taken place: the editor of a pharmaceutical magazine has just criticized the mass vaccination, he warned about the dangers of the vaccine and called the vaccination plan a large scale experiment with the population!!! this is all over the newspapers, really don't know what to make of it...

That's good news, my God this is a BIG test!

[stairwayoflife]

Duly signed.:D

[brainstormer]

By the sounds of this thread, it seems they are making it mandatory, not optional. Is this the case?

I am trying to get this link to everyone on my facebook, but am having to tediously send the link to each of my friends PM inbox individually. Does anyone know a way to get this spread on facebook faster? It seems every man and his dog is on facebook now, so what better way to hit the masses!

You could just post the link (with a little write up) on your FB wall, then all your friends/associates can see it.

They *might* see it, when you make a post it appears on the home page, then gets pushed down each time someone else in their friend list does something (plays a game, sends a request, comments on a photo etc.), it will be only visible for about 20 minutes that way (provided they even look at their homepage).

When I send messages out to people's inboxes, they definitely get the message! The only problem is that it has to be done one by one, unless someone knows a way to send to all your contacts at once?

[nayan]

I just found out that the local schools have sent letters out to parents saying that the kids will not be allowed to attend in september unless they have a swine flu vaccine.

:mad:

I sent an email to RTE but I doubt they will cover it ..

Assholes, does that mean college too?

[dangermouse]

Assholes, does that mean college too?

Well I found out that it was just rumour and no letters have been sent out ...

[whitewolf]

Chemtrails have been used as a precurser to the vaccine which combined will cause the spread of the virus according to the source in this article from the Spirit of Maat August newsletter.

Just another little addition to the overflowing bucket of flu vaccine fear and stress.:rolleyes:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/aug09/vaccine_update.html

VACCINE UPDATE
Sent to us by a friend who wishes to remain anonymous

When the Swine Flu came out, a little birdy told us that our brief acquaintance with this virus would soon be followed up by further 'population control' efforts. Rumors of impending mandatory vaccines have been circulating of late, and what we knew would turn into an even fishier state of affairs is already beginning to stink. The following message from one of our men in the street arrived on our desk right before the deadline. We are including it to give you an opportunity to decide for yourself what's really going on here.

This is a head's up from www.projectcamelot.net regarding vaccines — it's one of the reasons why I ordered Nano-2 Silver from you guys recently:



21 July 2009 — update 2

On today's Whistleblower Radio (the Camelot radio show) we featured Jane Burgermeister with four other guests: Dr Rebecca Carley, Rebecca Campbell, Elizabeth Book and JoAnne Cremer. A fifth contributor called in, Burk Elder Hale — who can be contacted through his website here.

Elder reported that he had been personally told by a senior biochemist at a leading pharmaceutical company [name of company provided but withheld here to protect the source] that:

"...an aerosoled precursor has been put into the air and almost everyone has breathed it into their lungs. The biochemist states that the vaccines to be administered in the Fall will be ACTIVATED when the constituents come in contact with the aerosoled precursor in the body and will cause a rapid spread of the H1N1 Influenza A virus".

This biochemist is very upset about the matter, to say the least, and is a very reliable source that needs our utmost protection."

We had been told something very similar by our insider source Henry Deacon, who informed us just a few days ago that chemtrails were now frequently being sprayed at 3-5 am (in the very early morning) with the specific intention to compromise the immune system.

We believe this information is credible and urgently requires further investigation.





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Back to the radio show: all of the guests except Jane had to suffer appalling audio interference on their phone lines. Some details were very hard to hear. A recording of the show (in case it is any better) will be posted here. These are the details of the guests, all of whom are doing important work:

Jane Burgermeister: legal action against vaccine manufacturers.

Dr Rebecca Carley: research about the harmful effects of vaccines and Tamiflu, strongly recommending colloidal silver as an antiviral.

Rebecca Campbell: research on the financial connections between 'Big Pharma' and government and other institutions ["Follow the Money" — as in 9/11].

Elizabeth Book: Florida-based grassroots political activist.

JoAnne Cremer: originator of a large and rapidly growing Facebook Group entitled END FORCED VACCINATIONS.

[nayan]

Well I found out that it was just rumour and no letters have been sent out ...

I see, i hope not anyways.

[dangermouse]

Assholes, does that mean college too?

I see, i hope not anyways.

Well the rumour had to start somewhere ....but this is west cork where I have had people commiserate me on my granmothers death months before she actually died :rolleyes:

[pipsicle]

Flashback:

(Glaxo have received the contract to provide flu shots to people in the UK. Here's what a senior exec had to say about the efficacy of their drugs 5 years ago)

Glaxo chief: Our drugs do not work on most patients

By Steve Connor, Science Editor


Monday, 8 December 2003


A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.


A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.

Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.

It is an open secret within the drugs industry that most of its products are ineffective in most patients but this is the first time that such a senior drugs boss has gone public. His comments come days after it emerged that the NHS drugs bill has soared by nearly 50 per cent in three years, rising by £2.3bn a year to an annual cost to the taxpayer of £7.2bn. GSK announced last week that it had 20 or more new drugs under development that could each earn the company up to $1bn (£600m) a year.

Dr Roses, an academic geneticist from Duke University in North Carolina, spoke at a recent scientific meeting in London where he cited figures on how well different classes of drugs work in real patients.

Drugs for Alzheimer's disease work in fewer than one in three patients, whereas those for cancer are only effective in a quarter of patients. Drugs for migraines, for osteoporosis, and arthritis work in about half the patients, Dr Roses said. Most drugs work in fewer than one in two patients mainly because the recipients carry genes that interfere in some way with the medicine, he said.

"The vast majority of drugs - more than 90 per cent - only work in 30 or 50 per cent of the people," Dr Roses said. "I wouldn't say that most drugs don't work. I would say that most drugs work in 30 to 50 per cent of people. Drugs out there on the market work, but they don't work in everybody."

Some industry analysts said Dr Roses's comments were reminiscent of the 1991 gaffe by Gerald Ratner, the jewellery boss, who famously said that his high street shops are successful because they sold "total crap". But others believe Dr Roses deserves credit for being honest about a little-publicised fact known to the drugs industry for many years.

"Roses is a smart guy and what he is saying will surprise the public but not his colleagues," said one industry scientist. "He is a pioneer of a new culture within the drugs business based on using genes to test for who can benefit from a particular drug."

Dr Roses has a formidable reputation in the field of "pharmacogenomics" - the application of human genetics to drug development - and his comments can be seen as an attempt to make the industry realise that its future rests on being able to target drugs to a smaller number of patients with specific genes.

The idea is to identify "responders" - people who benefit from the drug - with a simple and cheap genetic test that can be used to eliminate those non-responders who might benefit from another drug.

This goes against a marketing culture within the industry that has relied on selling as many drugs as possible to the widest number of patients - a culture that has made GSK one of the most profitable pharmaceuticals companies, but which has also meant that most of its drugs are at best useless, and even possibly dangerous, for many patients.

Dr Roses said doctors treating patients routinely applied the trial-and-error approach which says that if one drug does not work there is always another one. "I think everybody has it in their experience that multiple drugs have been used for their headache or multiple drugs have been used for their backache or whatever.

"It's in their experience, but they don't quite understand why. The reason why is because they have different susceptibilities to the effect of that drug and that's genetic," he said.

"Neither those who pay for medical care nor patients want drugs to be prescribed that do not benefit the recipient. Pharmacogenetics has the promise of removing much of the uncertainty."

Response rates

Therapeutic area: drug efficacy rate in per cent

Alzheimer's: 30
Analgesics (Cox-2): 80
Asthma: 60
Cardiac Arrythmias: 60
Depression (SSRI): 62
Diabetes: 57
Hepatits C (HCV): 47
Incontinence: 40
Migraine (acute): 52
Migraine (prophylaxis)50
Oncology: 25
Rheumatoid arthritis50
Schizophrenia: 60

[neila]

My kids wont be going to school then if thats the case:mad: I will not take this vaccine and neither will my kids, I will have problems getting through to my husband though.

Also does anyone know, Will those who have had swine flu still get the vaccine?

[brainstormer]

I don't think we'll be getting anywhere with this one. Only 139 signed to date, might as well stick your arm out and let them get on with it.

[grannymoose]

Submitted by Mr Peter Duffy – Deadline to sign up by: 15 August 2009 – Signatures: 140

This is god dam stupid. How many members are on here and only 150 sigs on that thing. You won't find any Men on here just people that hide behind LCDS.

[mrmoney]

This is god dam stupid. How many members are on here and only 150 sigs on that thing. You won't find any Men on here just people that hide behind LCDS.

I wouldn't ban the vaccine. Just make sure that it isn't mandatory. That's why I didn't sign this petition.

[purdx]

I wouldn't ban the vaccine. Just make sure that it isn't mandatory. That's why I didn't sign this petition.

Why don't you want the vaccine banned, all the evidence is there!!

[grannymoose]

Why don't you want the vaccine banned, all the evidence is there!!

Leave him dude there's pleanty of people out there that would sit back and watch them pump that crap into folk, saying it's none of my business.

I was under the impression that people on here gave a dam not just about themselevs but other people as well no matter how dumbed down and stupid they are.
Suppose it's like watchimg your neighbours kid get run over even knowing theres time to stop it.
" nothing to do with me not my problem "

Mrmoney i don't mind saying if it does become mandatory i won't be there supporting you.

[beldazar]

Right I feel pretty embarrassed now. I didnt sign the petition because Ive signed two against the vaccine already on facebook.

Plus these petitions i dont feel help a damned thing! i got a reply e-mail only the other day after signing a petition against flouride. Take a look and count the lies :mad:

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20212

NoFluoride - - epetition response
We received a petition asking:

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to not add extra fluoride to water supplies.”

Details of Petition:

“The Gov. is planning to add extra fluoride [Fl] the water supplies. On the surface, this looks great, however there are problems. Too much Fl can induce a disease, fluorosis. It is mostly found in young kids who can not handle the extra Fl. Dental fluorosis is a disease that increases the rate of decay. While trying to inhibit decay, the Gov. will be actually producing it. The best way to stop tooth decay for everyone is to brush your teeth and to not eat so much sugar. If people were eating less sugar then this would decrease the amount of tooth decay and fight obesity. Why do this when there are already much better ways of preventing decay? We already add chlorine to our water to get rid of things like bacteria. It is everyone’s right to have clean water. But the Gov. is going too far, trying to alter diet by water. Water should be as pure as it can so that then individuals can have the diet that suits them via food. Everyone drinks tap water but not everyone will require the extra Fl. Please do not add extra Fl!.”

· Read the petition
· Petitions homepage

Read the Government’s response
It should be clarified that the Government does not have plans to extend fluoridation. The Government wishes there to be local consultations on proposals for new schemes in areas with high levels of dental disease, at which the evidence from research studies is made available for discussion, and both opponents and supporters of fluoridation are given a platform.

The attraction of fluoridation is that it provides for a public health approach that benefits all sections of the population, including people in areas of social deprivation who are most at risk of dental disease. Academic studies show that oral health is better in areas where tap water is already fluoridated. In practice the benefits are even greater. For example, children in fluoridated Birmingham have half the cases of tooth decay compared with children in non-fluoridated Manchester.

Fluoridation is an effective and relatively easy way to help address health inequalities, giving children from poorer backgrounds a dental health boost that can last a lifetime, reducing tooth decay and thereby cutting down on the amount of dental work they need in the future.

There have been fluoridation schemes in the UK for over 30 years, and even longer in the USA, with currently over 160 million people in these countries drinking water with the fluoride content increased to one part per million – the optimum level for preventing tooth decay. No ill effects have been identified.

The University of York report A Systematic Review of Water Fluoridation, published in September 2000, concluded that water fluoridation increased the number of children without tooth decay by 15 per cent. All water supplies contain some fluoride and it was from observing different patterns of dental decay in areas of differing levels of naturally fluoridated water that the benefits of fluoride were first observed.

The York report found no evidence of any risk to overall health from fluoridation. Apart from the benefits to oral health, the only other effect observed has been dental fluorosis. Dental fluorosis is a mottling of the teeth, which is of aesthetic concern to very few people, and does not increase decay.

Dental fluorosis may develop if additional fluoride supplements are taken by children (under seven years of age) who live in areas where the water supply is fluoridated. It can also happen when children swallow toothpaste. In the UK, severe dental fluorosis is rare. Treatment for fluorosis does not usually require veneers. Often, where someone has aesthetic concerns it can be treated by microabrasion (rigorous polishing).

The petition is correct in noting that the main causes of tooth decay are consumption of sugary food and poor oral hygiene practice. The problem is that experience of oral health promotion programmes shows that it is very difficult to change behaviour in these respects. A strong correlation exists between tooth decay and socially disadvantaged communities, and this section of the community is the most difficult to reach with health promotion messages.

In March 2005, Parliament approved, with large majorities in both Houses, the regulations on the public consultations that Strategic Health Authorities (SHAs) proposing to fluoridate their water would be required to undertake. Guidance on their implementation was issued to SHAs and Primary Care Trusts on 8 September 2005. It is the Government’s policy that no new fluoridation schemes should be introduced unless it can be shown that the local population is in favour.

On 5 February 2008, the Chief Dental Officer wrote to all SHAs. His letter encompassed guidance on a new legislative framework governing the consultations and assessment of public opinion that SHAs need to undertake when they propose to make arrangements with a water company to increase the fluoride content of a water supply. This guidance is available on the Department of Health website at www.dh.gov.uk (enter ‘guidance on fluoridation’ in the search bar).

In addition, the guidance announced that £14million would be made available in each of the next three years to meet the capital costs of setting up new fluoridation schemes that SHAs have shown, through public consultations, have the support of the local population.

[pduffy4]

Right I feel pretty embarrassed now. I didnt sign the petition because Ive signed two against the vaccine already on facebook.

Plus these petitions i dont feel help a damned thing! i got a reply e-mail only the other day after signing a petition against flouride. Take a look and count the lies :mad:

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20212

NoFluoride - - epetition response
We received a petition asking:

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to not add extra fluoride to water supplies.”

Details of Petition:

“The Gov. is planning to add extra fluoride [Fl] the water supplies. On the surface, this looks great, however there are problems. Too much Fl can induce a disease, fluorosis. It is mostly found in young kids who can not handle the extra Fl. Dental fluorosis is a disease that increases the rate of decay. While trying to inhibit decay, the Gov. will be actually producing it. The best way to stop tooth decay for everyone is to brush your teeth and to not eat so much sugar. If people were eating less sugar then this would decrease the amount of tooth decay and fight obesity. Why do this when there are already much better ways of preventing decay? We already add chlorine to our water to get rid of things like bacteria. It is everyone’s right to have clean water. But the Gov. is going too far, trying to alter diet by water. Water should be as pure as it can so that then individuals can have the diet that suits them via food. Everyone drinks tap water but not everyone will require the extra Fl. Please do not add extra Fl!.”

· Read the petition
· Petitions homepage

Read the Government’s response
It should be clarified that the Government does not have plans to extend fluoridation. The Government wishes there to be local consultations on proposals for new schemes in areas with high levels of dental disease, at which the evidence from research studies is made available for discussion, and both opponents and supporters of fluoridation are given a platform.

The attraction of fluoridation is that it provides for a public health approach that benefits all sections of the population, including people in areas of social deprivation who are most at risk of dental disease. Academic studies show that oral health is better in areas where tap water is already fluoridated. In practice the benefits are even greater. For example, children in fluoridated Birmingham have half the cases of tooth decay compared with children in non-fluoridated Manchester.

Fluoridation is an effective and relatively easy way to help address health inequalities, giving children from poorer backgrounds a dental health boost that can last a lifetime, reducing tooth decay and thereby cutting down on the amount of dental work they need in the future.

There have been fluoridation schemes in the UK for over 30 years, and even longer in the USA, with currently over 160 million people in these countries drinking water with the fluoride content increased to one part per million – the optimum level for preventing tooth decay. No ill effects have been identified.

The University of York report A Systematic Review of Water Fluoridation, published in September 2000, concluded that water fluoridation increased the number of children without tooth decay by 15 per cent. All water supplies contain some fluoride and it was from observing different patterns of dental decay in areas of differing levels of naturally fluoridated water that the benefits of fluoride were first observed.

The York report found no evidence of any risk to overall health from fluoridation. Apart from the benefits to oral health, the only other effect observed has been dental fluorosis. Dental fluorosis is a mottling of the teeth, which is of aesthetic concern to very few people, and does not increase decay.

Dental fluorosis may develop if additional fluoride supplements are taken by children (under seven years of age) who live in areas where the water supply is fluoridated. It can also happen when children swallow toothpaste. In the UK, severe dental fluorosis is rare. Treatment for fluorosis does not usually require veneers. Often, where someone has aesthetic concerns it can be treated by microabrasion (rigorous polishing).

The petition is correct in noting that the main causes of tooth decay are consumption of sugary food and poor oral hygiene practice. The problem is that experience of oral health promotion programmes shows that it is very difficult to change behaviour in these respects. A strong correlation exists between tooth decay and socially disadvantaged communities, and this section of the community is the most difficult to reach with health promotion messages.

In March 2005, Parliament approved, with large majorities in both Houses, the regulations on the public consultations that Strategic Health Authorities (SHAs) proposing to fluoridate their water would be required to undertake. Guidance on their implementation was issued to SHAs and Primary Care Trusts on 8 September 2005. It is the Government’s policy that no new fluoridation schemes should be introduced unless it can be shown that the local population is in favour.

On 5 February 2008, the Chief Dental Officer wrote to all SHAs. His letter encompassed guidance on a new legislative framework governing the consultations and assessment of public opinion that SHAs need to undertake when they propose to make arrangements with a water company to increase the fluoride content of a water supply. This guidance is available on the Department of Health website at www.dh.gov.uk (enter ‘guidance on fluoridation’ in the search bar).

In addition, the guidance announced that £14million would be made available in each of the next three years to meet the capital costs of setting up new fluoridation schemes that SHAs have shown, through public consultations, have the support of the local population.

The petitioner could have mentioned that it is actually Hexafluorosilicic Acid chemical waste which is added not Fluoride. Dr Phyllis Mullenix's research showed that Fluoride causes lowered IQ, after her report was made public she was sacked from her job and could not get any more work.

She is in this video Fluoride Deception Part 3 - YouTube

One of the major problems with the petitions is that you can only use 1000 characters, not even 1000 words, which is a disgrace. You also can't use any links to show evidence. I gave as much information as I could in the limited space I had. I also read that I could not use capital letters which is why there are none.

I have read some of the putrid shit in the private corrupt governments response to the Fluoride Petition and it disgusts me. It is truly STAGGERING how corrupt the Government is, they are such lying bastards!

[pduffy4]

I wouldn't ban the vaccine. Just make sure that it isn't mandatory. That's why I didn't sign this petition.

Waster!

[pduffy4]

Leave him dude there's pleanty of people out there that would sit back and watch them pump that crap into folk, saying it's none of my business.

I was under the impression that people on here gave a dam not just about themselevs but other people as well no matter how dumbed down and stupid they are.
Suppose it's like watchimg your neighbours kid get run over even knowing theres time to stop it.
" nothing to do with me not my problem "

Mrmoney i don't mind saying if it does become mandatory i won't be there supporting you.

I agree.

I am frankly sick of this forum. The people on here just want to read and do nothing constructive while hoping someone will do it for them.

Well, I've had enough. After my petition is over on the 15th I am leaving this forum. I am not wasting any more of my time here. I thought about extending the deadline a month but fuck it. I will have some LAMB chops for my dinner tomorrow a bit like the Illuminati, except they prefer their sheep whole with vaccines!!

I feel sorry for David Icke. After 20 years of hard graft, even most people on here are still sheep. It's a sad joke.

I am going to continue to try to alert the rest of the sheep about the swine flu vaccine danger by handing out leaflets. I will be writing to several Police Chief Constables around the UK. I will post evidence to the Prime Minister Fuck Wit before the 15th August deadline. It will likely achieve nothing but at least I am trying.

[oranic_robot_001]

I think lots of people are aware of the issues on lots of things but are frightened to put their heads above the parapet. Paranoia is rife amongst truth seekers. paranoia is such a deterrent it works brilliantly for the ptb.

I would hazard a guess that a few people that live on your street feel the same as you but do not use forums like this or talk about their feelings because they are so fucking wary of who is controlling these sites and the media in general.

[pduffy4]

Official scanned documents:
Jane's Lawsuit to Stop the Forced vaccinations (http://www.safetylawsuits.com/complaint.html)

[nambo]

Now think logically, if the government are going to try a mass culling of the population, do you think the fact that people sign a petition against it is going to stop them?,

Gorbels to Adolf Hitler, "Look Adolf" 10,000 Jews have signed this pettition that they dont want to go in the gas chambers", Adolf replies, " thats quite a lot of Jews dont want to be gassed, maybe we better not do it then".

Why I havnt signed the petition is that I dont want them to know Iam not taking the vaccine so they send a SWAT team around my house to enforce it on me, more likely I will stand in line until the nurse ticks off my name, then escape out the tiolet window before they fill me with the poisen.

Now dont accuse us all of not doing anything just because we are keeping a low profile from the government, you wont change thier minds, but you can change the minds of the sheeple in order to get them to not accept it, thats pro-active involvement, heres a copy of the e-mail Ive sent to everyone I know as well as talking to anybody that will listen at work.

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Watch these and think twice before taking the vaccine

Georgia guidestones state intent to reduce population
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3490568771316655904&ei=lrR0SoaUItef-AaTmMXIAQ&q=georgia+guidestones+depopulation&hl=en&client=firefox-a

40 Micro biologists murdered, why?, because they would recognise thier work
being used on thier own population, heres the list
http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadScientists.html

Heres one example of many who claim this swine flu is made in the lab
Swine flu is a man made virus ? - YouTube

FEMA has prepared in advance for mass deaths, why?
FEMA Coffins - YouTube

FEMA has prepared concentration camps in advance, why?
FEMA Concentration camps in USA with Google Earth - Google REX - 84 - YouTube

Scientists recreate deadly Spanish flu virus and tell you its to "help study
bird flu" http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1475608.htm

Swine flu which has killed hardly anybody compared to ordinary seasonal flu,
yet has been declared a pandemic so they can force you to take it, does this
seem a bit over the top to you?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/health/vaccines_swine_flu_mandatory

Baxters is the company to supply our flu vaccine, its the same company that
"accidentaly" released flu vaccine containing live bird flu, and the same
compant to patent swine flu vaccine two years before it "suddenly" appeared
in mexico,
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227

We had swine flu in 1976, remember these
1976 Swine Flu Propaganda - YouTube many people died or became
seriously ill from the vaccine, YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Some more videos

WARNING: Swine Flu (H1N1 virus) Vaccine DEADLY ! - YouTube



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ZLgPKIBU0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fforum%2Fshow thread.php%3Ft%3D75459&feature=player_embedded

[nambo]

What happened to my links in the above post?

Heres the e-mail again

Watch these and think twice before taking the vaccine

Georgia guidestones state intent to reduce population
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3490568771316655904&ei=lrR0SoaUItef-AaTmMXIAQ&q=georgia+guidestones+depopulation&hl=en&client=firefox-a

40 Micro biologists murdered, why?, because they would recognise thier work
being used on thier own population, heres the list
http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadScientists.html

Heres one example of many who claim this swine flu is made in the lab
Swine flu is a man made virus ? - YouTube

FEMA has prepared in advance for mass deaths, why?
FEMA Coffins - YouTube

FEMA has prepared concentration camps in advance, why?
FEMA Concentration camps in USA with Google Earth - Google REX - 84 - YouTube

Scientists recreate deadly Spanish flu virus and tell you its to "help study
bird flu" http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1475608.htm

Swine flu which has killed hardly anybody compared to ordinary seasonal flu,
yet has been declared a pandemic so they can force you to take it, does this
seem a bit over the top to you?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/health/vaccines_swine_flu_mandatory

Baxters is the company to supply our flu vaccine, its the same company that
"accidentaly" released flu vaccine containing live bird flu, and the same
company to patent swine flu vaccine two years before it "suddenly" appeared
in mexico,
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227

We had swine flu in 1976, remember these
1976 Swine Flu Propaganda - YouTube many people died or became
seriously ill from the vaccine, YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Some more videos

WARNING: Swine Flu (H1N1 virus) Vaccine DEADLY ! - YouTube



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ZLgPKIBU0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidicke.com%2Fforum%2Fshow thread.php%3Ft%3D75459&feature=player_embedded

[pduffy4]

Conclusive link now admitted: swine flu vaccine causes chronic nervous system disorders:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/conclusive-link-now-admitted-swine-flu-vaccine-causes-chronic-nervous-system-disorders.html

[dude111]

Well we all knew something was up with it...

1) IT WAS BEING OFFERED FREE
2) IT WAS BEING PUSHED LIKE CRAZY ON PEOPLE
3) IT ALMOST WAS FORCED ON PEOPLE IN THE US AND MANY OTHER PLACES. (Which would have resulted in mass caoss which is why i think they backed off)