How to make yourself unwell, sick and diseased.

[cleft_asunder]

You know, no matter how smart I am when it comes to alternative medicine and such, and no matter how powerful and efficient of a protocol I can invent, the cure is always founded on this fact: Your body is the physical manifestation of your emotions and thoughts. Positivity and love is what cures. If you do not love yourself, physical cures are of limited use.

It's all a mind game. That's why the placebo effect exists. If you have a strong will and you believe aspartame is good for you, it will be. People accross the world do "impossible" things with mental training. It's amazing how much childhood effects the rest of a persons life. I spent 15 years hating yourself because kids in elementry school said I was ugly, and this manifested into a disaease. I have been training for about 15 years to make myself diseased!

Except for fleeting moments when I go into myself and realise my perfection, I have spent time in a destructive though patern. And the only way to fix it is to stop the negativity and start loving myself.

http://www.chimachine4u.com/illness.html

[bulletproofheart]

Thats great until someone drags you down again.

[cleft_asunder]

Thats great until someone drags you down again.

You drag yourself down by letting others drag you down. No one is responsible for your happiness or unhappiness except yourself.

[gorgeousgertie]

absolutely totally agreed cleft_asunder, both posts!!!

Well said, excellent!

[justnotsure]

Me too. Do not play the victim or you will become one. Do your thoughts strengthen you or empower you - feel it in your body.

[godgoo]

never let the outcome of success or failure depend on anyone else. This is the same when it comes to your emotions.

[justnotsure]

"When the archer misses the mark, he turns and looks for the fault within himself. Failure to hit the bull's eye is never the fault of the target. To improve your aim - improve yourself."

[unusual_suspect]

If as you say "Your body is the physical manifestation of your emotions and thoughts." Does that mean I can transform myself in to a gorgeous, leggy 6 foot blonde?

[gorgeousgertie]

if you want - absolutely!

[unusual_suspect]

if you want - absolutely!

Really? That is great, because I am a 5 foot 3 brunette, I'll start visualising this and let you know if I see any changes :p

[cleft_asunder]

If as you say "Your body is the physical manifestation of your emotions and thoughts." Does that mean I can transform myself in to a gorgeous, leggy 6 foot blonde?

No, unless your thoughts are strong enough and persistant, and it will take years to change height and such. The bigger the change, the more time and persistance is required. But likely you will be more misearable in the end since you haven't tackled the root of the problem, which is that you can't accept yourself as you are. Do you really believe that if you have those things, you will be happy with yourself? Look at how many beautiful celebrities end up getting work done. There will always be a fault to find because they are living from the perspective of mind rather than spirit. The mind is the source of misery. Nothing is good enough for it, and the fact is that everyone's mind is insane, except those who operate from consciousness (being) rather than mind. These people love themselves unconditionally.

But this is beside the point. My main point is that disease happends because we down on ourselves, and believe we aren't good enough. So we end up hating ourselves and this manifests into disease. Forget about your problems and accept yourself as you are, rather than seeking some contrived ideal. Clean your mind by living from spirit. Then the health problems will go away on their own.

[justnotsure]

If as you say "Your body is the physical manifestation of your emotions and thoughts." Does that mean I can transform myself in to a gorgeous, leggy 6 foot blonde?

What would be so great about being a gorgeous leggy 6ft blonde -how do you imagine you would feel about yourself and the world - isn't that what you really want - those feelings not the actual??

[gripit]

Hey cleft_asunder, totally agree! the 'Witch Doctor Effect' kills (Negative placebo).



Think Young

Almost everybody has heard of death curses: psychological literature is laced with accounts of how Aboriginal witch doctors have quite literally brought about the death of the young and healthy by cursing them. No sooner do these people learn of the fate which has been cast for them than they begin inexplicably to sicken and eventually to die. It appears that through complex biological processes, their simple belief in the curse brings about destruction of their organism.

modern-day death curses

In civilized society we tend to look upon such phenomena as anthropological curiosities - products of primitive superstition which simply don't touch us in our more enlightened age. What we are not aware of however is that many of us in the civilized world are also under our own brand of `death curses'. They may be subtler than those issued by witch doctors but they can be every bit as potent in bringing about the physical and mental decline which we have come to associate with aging. Common (and usually unconscious) notions such as `retirement', `middle-age', `It's all down hill after forty', and `At your age you must start taking things more easily', are widely held. They can exert a powerful effect on the process of aging by creating destructive self-fulfilling expectations about age decline. Instead of facing the future full of confidence and excitement about what lies ahead, optimism is replaced by anxiety as we are warned to `Be careful', or `Don't take chances on a new career at your age.'

The list of commonly proffered `sensible' advice is a long one. Such well-meaning suggestions often lead people to make changes in their lifestyle which encourage physical decline - for instance decreasing the amount of exercise they get, altering their eating habits away from fiber-rich natural foods towards `softer' foods, and even decreasing the amount of social and intellectual stimulation they have been used to. Even worse, this kind of advice can undermine your self-image and destroy self-confidence, which in turn interferes with the proper functioning of the immune system which plays such a central role in protecting your body from aging. An essential ingredient in ageless aging is a strong awareness of just how powerfully your emotions, state of mind, and your unconscious assumptions can influence both your susceptibility to illness and the rate at which you age. Once that awareness has penetrated your consciousness then you can begin to make use of some simple and pleasant mind-bending techniques in aid of ageless aging.

mind-body connections

The notion that your state of mind can influence your health and the rate at which you age was once something which had to be taken on faith. Now it is not only being scientifically proven, it is even being put into effective practical use thanks to a rapidly developing scientific discipline with a tongue-twisting name: psychoneuroimmunology (PNI). PNI has discovered that your body's immune system, that bulwark of defense, is undeniably affected by your unconscious assumptions, your emotional states and your behavioral patterns. They can lead either to an increased resistance to aging or to an increased susceptibility to degeneration and illness. In simple terms the happier you are, the better you feel about yourself and the more positive are your expectations about the future, the more likely you are to age slowly and gracefully and the less likely you are to fall prey to degeneration and illness of whatever sort - from a common cold to a life-threatening disease.

No area of ageless aging is more fun to explore than this one. I always think of its positive side as `Zorba the Greek' consciousness. It can make possible the most amazing physical and mental feats by quite ordinary people living quite ordinary lives. Take the man who is able to work eighteen hours a day, drink whisky by the tumblerful, dance on tables until the early hours of the morning and still live to be 110 thanks to the sheer joy of his experience of life. I have seen it too amongst saints and holy men who carry out their day-to-day activities, from writing letters to peeling potatoes, in a state of bliss - samadhi. Take a look at their superbly unlined faces. They could as easily be thirty as seventy. Psychoneuroimmunologists are working to find out why.

So new is the PNI discipline (the name was only coined in 1981) that the average physician is unlikely even to have heard of it. But so profound and wide-reaching are the consequences of its findings that they threaten to revolutionize medical theory about the origins and development of degeneration. Research into psychoneuroimmunology is already describing the pathways through which mind and body are inextricably bound together. These pathways include neurological connections linking glands and organs with the brain, the antioxidant system and the blood, thanks to hormonal secretions triggered by thought patterns and emotions and - most important of all - via the immune system. PNI researchers have discovered for instance that several kinds of lymphocytes involved in your body's immune response carry receptors which recognize hormones found in the brain that alter mind and mood. They have also found that some of these neurotransmitters or peptide hormones stimulate T-cells to produce more lymphokines such as interferon while others have the opposite effect. In fact listening to leading PNI researchers talk about mind-body connections makes you realize there is probably no state of mind which is not faithfully reflected by a state of the immune system.

beyond psychosomatic consciousness

Western medicine has long acknowledged that emotional states such as anxiety and depression can make a limited number of illnesses worse. These include asthma, diabetes, peptic ulcer, ulcerative colitis, migraine and cardiovascular problems. But until the advent of PNI it has paid little attention to examining the nature of their psychological components nor has it explored ways and means of improving these conditions by altering a patient's mental state or behavioral patterns. Meanwhile it has almost completely ignored possible psychological components in the vast majority of other illnesses - from lung disease and cancer to rheumatism and allergic reactions - treating them instead as pure physiological occurrences little affected by whether the patient experiencing them felt good or bad in himself.

This is mostly because Western medicine, bound by the Cartesian notion of a split between mind and matter, has failed to consider the people it treats as psychobiological units - total beings whose feelings, thoughts, expectations and perceptions are intimately bound to their physiology and biochemistry. Happily this is now changing in no small part thanks to a few visionary scientists who began asking some penetrating questions. Why for instance do some people who smoke forty cigarettes a day for twenty years end up with lung cancer while others following exactly the same pattern don't? The first, most obvious answer is that the former have an hereditary disposition to the disease. True, genetics are important, but these scientists found that they were by no means the whole answer. A large and very important piece of the puzzle was still missing. So they began to look at psychological factors.

let go and live longer

In a pioneering study carried out over twenty years ago, Scottish researcher Dr David Kissen examined more than 1000 Glaswegian industrial workers suffering from respiratory complaints. Before diagnosing them he gave each man a psychological test designed to delineate personality patterns. He came up with some quite fascinating and highly significant results. He discovered that those who were later found to have cancer showed a striking inability to express their emotions. Intrigued by Kissen's study and other similar investigations which suggested that emotional repression was an important component in the development of cancer, two doctors, R.L. Horne and R. S. Picard, at the Washington University School of Medicine in the United States, decided to carry out an in-depth study of the psychosocial risk factors in lung cancer as measured on a psychological scale developed from the findings of previous studies including Kissen's. They confirmed that emotional repression was indeed the central component of a complex personality pattern which led to the development of the disease. In fact, so important were the relationships between psychological states and the development of lung cancer which they uncovered that the two researchers found they could predict with an amazing 73 per cent accuracy which men had cancer and which men had simple lung disease, from psychological testing alone. They discovered that cancer sufferers, because of their emotional repression, tended to find great difficulty coping with life's challenges and sorrows. After losing an important relationship such as a job or a wife the cancer victims often suffered profound depression for from six to eighteen months before the discovery of the illness. These findings have been confirmed by others.

mind and biochemistry

Similar studies linking other psychological factors to other diseases, including infections, arthritis, allergies and premature aging, have also recently appeared. One of the best known is that done by Meyer Friedman and Ray Rosemann which demonstrated that what they called `type A behavior' - a behavior pattern characterized by a fierce and unrelenting struggle to do ever more things in less time against harsh competition - appears to cause a number of bodily changes predisposing one to coronary heart disease. They include alterations in blood-fat and blood-sugar levels, changes in circulation and increased levels of the hormone noradrenaline. And each disease is beginning to appear to have its own collection of psychological characteristics.

Studies have now established that psychological factors are primary determinants in a host of illnesses while in others psychological factors appear to interact with biological ones determining whether disease tendencies, initiated either by heredity or your environment or both, will in fact turn into degeneration or whether your body will be able to fight them off. But how does it all work? Through what physiological mechanisms do emotional repression in the case of cancer, a frustrated power drive in the case of high blood pressure, and all the various other psychological and behavioral traits linked with their illnesses help create their respective illness and age decline? Perhaps even more important, once one can find these physiological mechanisms how can we make use of them first to prevent aging and even perhaps to reverse some of its processes once they have occurred? The key to both questions appears once again to lie in the immune system.

rat magic

You'll remember that the immune system exists to defend your body against antigens - foreign invaders such as bacteria, viruses and chemical toxins. It is also a watchdog against the development of cancer cells and premature aging both of which can be induced by chemical damage, radiation, viruses and other bodily changes. It does this by being able to recognize `self' that which belongs naturally to the body - from `non-self' that which is foreign to it. If your immune system is under active you will find yourself highly susceptible to infection and to cancer. If it is working too hard you will be prone to allergies. If it is simply misfunctioning and unable to differentiate `self' from `non-self' you can end up with one of the auto-immune diseases such as multiple sclerosis or arthritis. Until quite recently scientists assumed that the immune system was an independent physiological entity - something beyond the influence of psychological influences. Then DR Robert Ader, professor of psychiatry and psychology at the University of Rochester School of Medicine (who himself coined the word `psychoneuroimmunology') carried out some mysterious experiments with animals. He gave rats saccharin-flavored water and at the same time injected them with a drug known to cause digestive disturbances and to suppress immune function. The rats rapidly developed an aversion to the flavored water as he expected them to. But what was surprising was that a number of the rats also died when later they were offered the flavored water even without the drug. Why? Perhaps, Ader reasoned, it was a brain-triggered response. Perhaps the rats died because they had been conditioned, rather as Pavlov's dog was conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell, so that their immune system reacted to the flavored water as it would have done to the immuno-suppressive drug, thus dramatically reducing their susceptibility to disease.

To check out this theory Ader then conditioned another group of rats, challenging their immune system with a common antigen after first conditioning them with water flavored with saccharin and the drug. They were divided into three groups. The first received another injection of the drug and as researchers predicted their antibody production was suppressed. The second group, which was neither treated further with the drug nor given the flavored water, had normal antibody responses. But the third group who got only the flavored water without the drug showed a marked decrease in immune reaction - their antibody response to the challenge was significantly less than normal. They had learnt to react to the flavored water in the same way that they did to a chemical that suppressed the immune system. Ader concluded, `The fact that learning could alter antibody response in this manner demonstrates a clear, direct link between the brain and the immune system.' His conclusion has since been firmly supported by a host of scientific studies showing how anxiety, depression and discouragement interfere with good immune functions and create susceptibility to illness and aging.

mysteries of mind and immunity

You may recall that the immune system has two major branches, each with its own particular kind of defense cells or lymphocytes. It also includes other less important factors such as large scavenger-type cells called macrophages which gobble up antigenic material. The first branch confers on your body what is known as cell-mediated immunity and is responsible for about half of your body's resources for defense. It is centered around T-cell leucocytes - warrior cells produced in the thymus which battle the thousands of potentially lethal organisms, cancer inducing ultraviolet radiation from the sun and toxic chemicals from our highly industrialized environment. T-cells also produce a group of hormone-like substances such as interferon. They are called lymphokines and are considered the immune system's natural drugs. Some are poisonous to foreign tissue, others trigger white blood cells to keep an immune reaction going. The second branch of the immune system offers humoral-mediated immunity. It relies on what are known as B-cell lymphocytes, which produce antibodies specific to whatever invaders the body is being challenged by. B-cells are carried in the blood. They can combine with antigens in the body and neutralize them or they can coat them, making it simple for white blood cells to destroy them.

The actions of both T and B cells are mediated through the thymus gland - often called the master gland of immunity. As we have seen the rate at which you age appears to be very much influenced by the function of the thymus gland and the state of the immune system which it governs. It has also been well established that immune functions can be disrupted or depressed by such things as malnutrition, free radicals, infection and certain drugs. Recent research shows too that lymphocytes from people suffering from all kinds of stress and from grief, say after the death of a close relative, have a markedly decreased ability to rise to the occasion when challenged by antigens threatening the health of the body. What psychoneuroimmunologists are now trying to explore in experiments with animals and in studies of people are the pathways between brain and body through which this occurs - to delineate the means by which mind affects immunity both as a result of direct input from the brain and the indirect influence of hormones associated with specific emotional states and personality patterns.

stress and immunity

One of the questions currently being most seriously investigated by PNI researchers is how biological changes associated with stress diminish immune response and increase susceptibility to illness. Stress of any kind triggers the `fight or flight response' - a matrix of hormonal reactions designed to prepare the body for action. Adrenaline is released, for instance, and corticosteroid hormones from the adrenal glands. They in turn trigger other hormonal reactions. PNI researchers have now found that within fifteen minutes of its hitting the bloodstream even a small dose of adrenaline challenges the immune system and triggers the release of lymphocytes. It also inhibits the function of mature white blood cells needed to ward off invasion. Other studies have shown that the corticosteroids can also seriously depress immune functions and increase your susceptibility to disease. They inhibit the functions of both lymphocytes and macrophages and they undermine the ability of lymphocytes to reproduce themselves in the body. In fact if stress is prolonged enough and the levels of corticosteroids become high enough in the body they even cause a withering away of lymphoid tissue altogether.

Stress has been shown to increase susceptibility to cancer in mice and to exacerbate the condition once it is present. And cancers appear to grow fastest and to result in earliest deaths in animals with no way of coping with stress. The same appears to be true of people. At St Luke's Medical Center in Chicago, DR Richard Shekelle headed a research project which examined death certificates of more than 2000 men who had been tested psychologically for depression and other emotional states seventeen years before. He found that the death rate of men who had been very depressed at the time of testing was twice that of the rest.

One of the most widely held theories about cancer states that each of us develops small malignancies all the time in our body but that these are rapidly destroyed in a healthy person thanks to the actions of his immune system. If however you have strong feelings of helplessness or depression this can result in elevated corticosteroid levels and other changes which impede your immune system from doing its proper job and rejecting the cancer cells before they can take hold.

pni alters paradigms

The mind-body links which PNI research is uncovering are beginning to have far-reaching consequences, consequences which ultimately will go far beyond helping people avoid life threatening diseases and slow the aging process. There is a strong resonance to be found between PNI and much of the new physics which is busily exploring the view that the observer is essential to the creation of the universe just as the universe is creator of the observer. As Nobel laureate Roger Sperry has said, `Current concepts of the mind-brain relation involve a direct break with the long-established materialist and behaviorist doctrine that has dominated neuroscience for many decades. Instead of renouncing or ignoring consciousness the new interpretation gives full recognition to the primacy of inner conscious awareness as a causal reality.'

It is a causal reality that you can begin using to your advantage right now. For just as prolonged unmitigated stress, depression and anxiety can suppress immune functions, a positive frame of mind and a sense that you can cope with whatever comes your way offers potent protection against illness and age-degeneration.

At Beth Israel Hospital, another researcher, DR Stephen Locke, has used psychological tests to evaluate students' abilities to cope with the shocks and challenges of their lives. He has found that the `poor copers' - those who tend to succumb to anxiety, depression and a sense of helplessness when life difficulties arise - show suppressed immune functions, while the `good copers' - people who feel they can deal effectively with whatever comes their way - had normal immune functions even when faced with major life changes. Meanwhile in a well controlled study of women suffering from breast cancer who underwent mastectomy, British researcher DR Steven Greer discovered that women who react to their diagnosis with a denial that they are ill or with a determination to conquer the illness are far more likely five years later to be free of the disease than those who stoically accepted the diagnosis or who felt hopeless or helpless.

making immunity work for you

What can you do, starting right now, in the way of using your mind as a tool for ageless aging? You can begin by exploring the benefits of mind/body techniques which can help alter your mental attitudes and emotional states from negative to positive and therefore encourage good immune functions and hence slow down the rate at which you age. There are many. DR Herbert Benson of Harvard Medical School developed the simple meditative technique, called the relaxation response, which consists of sitting with your eyes closed for fifteen or twenty minutes morning and night and repeating a single word - say `one' or `peace' - over and over again silently. Practiced regularly it will not only counter the immunesuppressing tendencies of stress but even bring about major psychological shifts in belief systems that can gradually change a self-defeating `poor coper' into an optimistic `good coper'.

You can also explore just how many negative expectations you have connected with aging. Then you can quite simply and methodically go about changing them. For instance, how many of the notions would you agree with? They have been adapted from a quiz designed by well-known gerontologist Erdman Palmore from Duke University Medical Center in the United States and they appeared in the scientific journal The Gerontologist not long ago. Take the quiz and then check your answers at the end. It is a good way of helping you become aware of how many false ideas you have about aging.

Contrary to popular opinion only 2 or 3 per cent of old people are institutionalized because of psychiatric disorders. Neither do the vast majority of old people have memory defects. Most people over sixty-five continue to be interested in sex, and sexual relations continue well into the eighties between healthy men and women. Studies made of morale and happiness amongst the elderly show no difference between their enjoyment of life and that of younger people.

People over sixty-five have fewer accidents per person driving than do younger drivers. They also have fewer accidents at work. The majority of old people are not set in their ways although it does take them longer to learn something new than the young. Studies show that few old people suffer from boredom. Neither are they socially isolated or lonely. More than 10 per cent of old people work and two-thirds of those who don't would like to. Finally old people are seldom irritated or angry. This has been determined by three separate studies.

visualize age anew

Becoming aware of false assumptions about aging is a good first step. The next is to create a new vision of what it means to have time passing. Make use of creative visualization techniques where in a state of relaxation you allow your mind to play on positive images of yourself five, ten, thirty years from now. There are some excellent books available on the subject which you can use as a guide. But really the technique is very easy. It is only a matter of letting yourself indulge in positive daydreaming. Or practice a meditation or deep-relaxation technique a couple of times a day and finish off by repeating silently to yourself Coue's formula for personal growth and healing, `Every day in every way I am getting better and better.' It is exquisitely simple yet enormously powerful when practiced daily in a deeply relaxed state so that it is your imagination rather than your will which is brought into play.

affirm youth and well-being

Another simple technique which has real power for altering unconscious expectations and creating new realities is that of writing out `affirmations' - seven times seventy - for a week or two. This can be something as simple as `I am well and will continue to be so as the years pass' or `I let go of past confusion and day by day make my life anew.' The mere act of writing out such words over and over for several days helps break through old thought patterns and negativity that may be hampering you from realizing your full psychobiological potentials. You might be surprised at how quickly they penetrate your consciousness and bring about positive shifts in expectations and in your reality. For they can generate positive mental states and emotions and make them your common everyday experience of reality. And, just as PNI researchers have been discovering, it is the simple positive experiences and emotions like love, hope, faith, laughter, playfulness and creativity which can not only make life worth living, they can actually keep us alive, youthful and well. As effective as massive doses of antioxidant nutrients, fresh-cell therapy and all the other biological methods of age retardation available to you? Very probably. Besides they'll cost you absolutely nothing but a smile.




http://www.lesliekenton.com/circle/aging/think_young.htm

[unusual_suspect]

What would be so great about being a gorgeous leggy 6ft blonde -how do you imagine you would feel about yourself and the world - isn't that what you really want - those feelings not the actual??

It would be great, I'd charge people to photograph me with no clothes on, easy money!

[flatseven]

It would be great, I'd charge people to photograph me with no clothes on, easy money!

Money feeds the mind, not the soul.

[unusual_suspect]

Money feeds the mind, not the soul.

That is true, but it would be easy money I suppose, never mind though :rolleyes:

The OP makes a valid point, I have had good news health wise this week. I am having my uretral stent removed next Tuesday, it is a piece of plastic about a foot long running from my kidney to my bladder and it has been very uncomfortable. I had show wave therapy on my kidney after surgey to get a the last bit of stone. That went well. I had been visualising and doing all I could spiritually to ensure good results so I think it has paid off.

The proceedure to remove the stent has come at a good time so all is well!

[gorgeousgertie]

''Really? That is great, because I am a 5 foot 3 brunette, I'll start visualising this and let you know if I see any changes ''

Excellent!
Be interesting to see if in a while you take some kind of exercise (not saying you dont now, or your legs aint toned now either!)to tone your legs and start (if you dont anyway)wearing high heels, to make the legs look longer and therefore 'leggier', as well as making you seem taller; your posture could alter as you are aware of being taller (again, not saying you dont do this already!) and you'll be best mates with peroxide hehehehehe!!!

Depends on the motivation but there are ways and means for all sorts aint there and not always necessarily as hard as you'd think..........

Where theres a will theres away.......just be aware of the absolute 'intention' (absolute as in what is actually intended not just what is percieved as the intention to mask something else) then go forth and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!

[unusual_suspect]

''Really? That is great, because I am a 5 foot 3 brunette, I'll start visualising this and let you know if I see any changes ''

Excellent!
Be interesting to see if in a while you take some kind of exercise (not saying you dont now, or your legs aint toned now either!)to tone your legs and start (if you dont anyway)wearing high heels, to make the legs look longer and therefore 'leggier', as well as making you seem taller; your posture could alter as you are aware of being taller (again, not saying you dont do this already!) and you'll be best mates with peroxide hehehehehe!!!

Depends on the motivation but there are ways and means for all sorts aint there and not always necessarily as hard as you'd think..........

Where theres a will theres away.......just be aware of the absolute 'intention' (absolute as in what is actually intended not just what is percieved as the intention to mask something else) then go forth and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, I propse an experiment. However, it won't work if I don't believe it can be done so I'm not sure if it will work, I try to visualise what I would like to happen everyday and things do come true, so it would be a good experiment. What do you think?

[white horse]

Really? That is great, because I am a 5 foot 3 brunette...p

;)

[cleft_asunder]

That is true, but it would be easy money I suppose, never mind though :rolleyes:

The OP makes a valid point, I have had good news health wise this week. I am having my uretral stent removed next Tuesday, it is a piece of plastic about a foot long running from my kidney to my bladder and it has been very uncomfortable. I had show wave therapy on my kidney after surgey to get a the last bit of stone. That went well. I had been visualising and doing all I could spiritually to ensure good results so I think it has paid off.

The proceedure to remove the stent has come at a good time so all is well!

Glad to hear it.

Goldenrod or Bhumi Amalaki (stone breaker) will remove all kidney stones, and perhaps even liver stones. You can make a tea out of them but only take them for 2 weeks and then stop for a long while.

[cleft_asunder]

Ok, I propse an experiment. However, it won't work if I don't believe it can be done so I'm not sure if it will work, I try to visualise what I would like to happen everyday and things do come true, so it would be a good experiment. What do you think?

It isn't a question of it working. Of course it works. But, you have to really want it because it will take a lot of work. For most people it will take years, but depending on strength of mind. What a burden. Why not put all that energy into accepting yourself and the now instead? Then, there is only peace and happiness.

[unusual_suspect]

It isn't a question of it working. Of course it works. But, you have to really want it because it will take a lot of work. For most people it will take years, but depending on strength of mind. What a burden. Why not put all that energy into accepting yourself and the now instead? Then, there is only peace and happiness.

Well quite, I was only speaking hypothetically and I have more important things to visualise, like being healthy and well after spending the last 8 months or so being seriously ill. I have been visualising wellness and being ill has made me think about the fact that maybe I have actually manifested the problem due to supressing and not letting go of my emotions.

I have always tended to bury things and let them fester, incidentally this is similar to the nature of my health problems of this year. When I was in hospital after my operation and had sepsis, it may have been the drugs and high temperature making me delirious, but I had a bit of an epiphany about how a spiritual and emotional shift was required to cleanse myself and get well and how I had in part caused my illness emotionally. I am doing my Reiki 1 on Monday, so I'm sure the 21 days of self healing will be very useful.

[curtaincat]

Well quite, I was only speaking hypothetically and I have more important things to visualise, like being healthy and well after spending the last 8 months or so being seriously ill. I have been visualising wellness and being ill has made me think about the fact that maybe I have actually manifested the problem due to supressing and not letting go of my emotions.

I have always tended to bury things and let them fester, incidentally this is similar to the nature of my health problems of this year. When I was in hospital after my operation and had sepsis, it may have been the drugs and high temperature making me delirious, but I had a bit of an epiphany about how a spiritual and emotional shift was required to cleanse myself and get well and how I had in part caused my illness emotionally. I am doing my Reiki 1 on Monday, so I'm sure the 21 days of self healing will be very useful.


unusual suspect, sending you good vibes to get better asap. do you read Tracker's posts? He has some great ones somewhere on these boards. Really good advice, so does Anders Lindman.

i also liked what gripit put in on page 2.

although, i am having to figure out what he/she said compared to cleft.

one advice was 'accept you are perfect' and the other was 'everyday in everyway i am getting better and better'.

if someone could unite the two for better understanding, it would help everyone here reading this thread, including me.

lots of good vibes, u_s , you are a perfect spirit and your body will follow ;)

ps, just dont wear high heels for too long, it will shorten your calf muscles, and your running in the woods will suffer. also, not good for the back.

[gorgeousgertie]

hehehehe curtaincat!

How about:
'be yourself.......if you are always only ever yourself whats constantly better and better about this is that you will conciously realise you already are a true manifestation of perfection and never need to be anything else but yourself to achieve this'??????

hehehehehe!!!!!

ps. I run in the woods in high heels often and they are the perfect footwear for walking on soft ground as the heels give 'grip', like studs! Its wearing them on hard surfaces where it hurts.....but damn it they do look good!!!

[unusual_suspect]

unusual suspect, sending you good vibes to get better asap. do you read Tracker's posts? He has some great ones somewhere on these boards. Really good advice, so does Anders Lindman.

i also liked what gripit put in on page 2.

although, i am having to figure out what he/she said compared to cleft.

one advice was 'accept you are perfect' and the other was 'everyday in everyway i am getting better and better'.

if someone could unite the two for better understanding, it would help everyone here reading this thread, including me.

lots of good vibes, u_s , you are a perfect spirit and your body will follow ;)


ps, just dont wear high heels for too long, it will shorten your calf muscles, and your running in the woods will suffer. also, not good for the back.

Thanks babe!

It's too much too hilly where I live to wear heels, I'd fall over lol :D I had to give them up when I moved to the forest, special occasions only these days.

I get my stent removed in a few days and I can get my infection cleared up and come off the 500mg antibiotics I've been on for the last 6 months - joy. I'll be unstoppable then ;)

hehehehe curtaincat!

How about:
'be yourself.......if you are always only ever yourself whats constantly better and better about this is that you will conciously realise you already are a true manifestation of perfection and never need to be anything else but yourself to achieve this'??????

hehehehehe!!!!!

ps. I run in the woods in high heels often and they are the perfect footwear for walking on soft ground as the heels give 'grip', like studs! Its wearing them on hard surfaces where it hurts.....but damn it they do look good!!!

Be yourself is good advice indeed. Got to go as I have to work and then go running around muddy tracks in the woods.