Ron Paul has 30,000 Volunteers!

[chris]

His Volunteers grew 10,000 in a week!!!!!! Seriously his campaign is going so crazy that soon there will be no need for an election, there's just going to be a straight out revolution.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/index.php?news=230

[Anders Lindman]

Sounds interesting. The Internet has a massive power today. I wonder how far the grassroot part of Internet will be able to combat mainstream media. Maybe the Internet is too young yet in order to be a real threat to established media, but it will be very interesting to follow the battle until the election 2008.

[herebynightfall]

but it will be very interesting to follow the battle until the election 2008.

really? i sqirm when i hear even mentions of this media frenzy, that began over a year and a half before a new president is instated.

bush should have been impeached. bottom line. but with america twisted around the media's finger, is instead peacefully waiting until bush is out of office because his term expired.

and the big issue with these candidates is.. WHATS YOUR FOREIGN POLICY FOR IRAQ?!?

just asking that question makes it seem acceptable that we are there now, and will stay there
for the next 2-3 years + at least
wtf its all nuts.

[baron von lotsov]

Yeh, good man. A true right-winger free market champion. It's the way America is heading and another thing is the Republican Party is taking a leaf out of Thatcher's book and you know what Thatcher thinks about socialism. Euro-socialism is here favourite subject.


http://forum.no2id.net/viewtopic.php?t=17911&sid=6668fb9407d35be0bf58c7e0db173a1e

[Anders Lindman]

really? i sqirm when i hear even mentions of this media frenzy, that began over a year and a half before a new president is instated.


But the Internet has not been as powerful as it is today before. It's a real paradigm shift going on and the Internet may play a huge role up to the U.S. election 2008, something never seen in the entire history of politics. My guess is that mainstream media already is a bit shocked by the Internet phenomena. Ron Paul may not have so much support overall yet, but who knows what will happen because of the Internet.

[cruise4]

Best news I've heard for some time! But big big media opposition to overcome somehow, and polls and nomination votes will be rigged to high heaven. It does show how a bit of Activism can go a long way though. Yes Good News all round.:( This is me happy today!

[herebynightfall]

What I don't get is. People that know of Ron Paul. And hear his views on debates and clips on the internet, why dont they support him but rather people like Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama or somehow Rudolph Guiliani.

Even though clearly Ron Paul has better interests in mind in almost every topic that can be covered.

I dont think they understand the benefits to society that he offers.

I know its still a few controling the many and still very in the system if he's elected. But i mean. people that support the system... wtf is up why not Ron Paul.

love always

[Anders Lindman]

What I don't get is. People that know of Ron Paul. And hear his views on debates and clips on the internet, why dont they support him but rather people like Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama or somehow Rudolph Guiliani.


Could be that not many of the average Internet users have seen or heard much about Ron Paul yet, or have not been interested. But just wait, soon there will be a viral Ron Paul explosion on the Web! :D Maybe.

[herebynightfall]

yeah a lot of ditzy females i know. even being 19/20 and 'educated'

they always give me that same old.

" ron paul???? no never heard of whoever that is. don't care either. stop making me think so hard about things brian.(that's me ha) why do you have to be so wierd? "

ugh hahaha

[Anders Lindman]

yeah a lot of ditzy females i know. even being 19/20 and 'educated'

they always give me that same old.

" ron paul???? no never heard of whoever that is. don't care either. stop making me think so hard about things brian.(that's me ha) why do you have to be so wierd? "

ugh hahaha

Ron Paul is not mainstream yet so many people don't want to learn more about him I guess. If mainstream media should start talking more about Ron Paul then that would make many more people interested. And maybe mainstream media will begin to talk a lot more about Ron Paul!

Consider this scenario: Competition in media is very tough, and if just one media company begins to include more Ron Paul news and stories, and if they will get much more audience that way, then fast as a fury all the other big media companies will follow.

[baron von lotsov]

One strange thing about the Internet that NO2ID found was that when they started out they got about 10 000 members really quickly. After that the number edged up gradually month by month and people had to make the usual amount of hard graft to get more to join. This has been the case for a while, it is steadily growing but something caused a big spike. Look at this.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fno2id.net

Incidentally that spike was not responsible for those 10 000 members, I mean they joined up right at the beginning as word got round the Internet.

[chris]

Consider this scenario: Competition in media is very tough, and if just one media company begins to include more Ron Paul news and stories, and if they will get much more audience that way, then fast as a fury all the other big media companies will follow.

Wurd, also these anchors are able to speak out the truth without causing controversy. Also if they just have a small segment with him, they get hundreds of letters of support and if against, hundreds of letters of condemnation.

[Anders Lindman]

One strange thing about the Internet that NO2ID found was that when they started out they got about 10 000 members really quickly. After that the number edged up gradually month by month and people had to make the usual amount of hard graft to get more to join. This has been the case for a while, it is steadily growing but something caused a big spike. Look at this.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fno2id.net

Incidentally that spike was not responsible for those 10 000 members, I mean they joined up right at the beginning as word got round the Internet.

Yes, when clicking the 1 year scale I can see a very significant spike at the shift between November and December in 2006. But after that the curve drops down again.

For Ron Paul, a curve like this is needed:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simpsonsmovie .com%2F

[Anders Lindman]

Check this out:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fronpaul2008.com

Look at the graph from August and on. That could be the explosion I wrote about, that it already has happened! Too early to tell, but some shift happened at the beginning of August.

[Anders Lindman]

Check this out:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fronpaul2008.com

Look at the graph from August and on. That could be the explosion I wrote about, that it already has happened! Too early to tell, but some shift happened at the beginning of August.

Compare Ron Paul's graph with Hillary Clinton's:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hillaryclinto n.com%2F

In the case of the Ron Paul site, the growth is sustained, while the spike in the Hillary Clinton site graph is not sustained.

[dondaz]

I'm gonna spam every main stream website/forum/blog in America as I can with info and links on Ron Paul.

The closer we get to 2008 the more dis-info they will put out on him.

Get ready for some monumental happenings with freedom fighters throughout the western world.

[Anders Lindman]

I'm gonna spam every main stream website/forum/blog in America as I can with info and links on Ron Paul.

The closer we get to 2008 the more dis-info they will put out on him.

Get ready for some monumental happenings with freedom fighters throughout the western world.

It could become very messy. The tradition in politics has always been represented by big newspapers and television stations. That's the reason I think why Hillary Clinton's site has not any increased traffic. The other candidates rely solely on mainstream media to carry them. Now all of a sudden, the grassroot part of the Web has become a possible vehicle for politics. Prepare for a big battle!!! :D

[chris]

A couple of things that might skew the Ron Paul stats is that a lot of people are from abroad reading his site, I personally visit everyday...No other candidate has supporters like this but the people visiting Hillaries site might all be one-timers which is quite a lot (still no substitute for die hard supporters). Her spike was also very high which although not consistant shows the power of the mainstream media.

I think time is on our side. We are already overspilling over to the mainstream and people are waking up to it but they are also waking up to Ed and Elaine Brown, Arron Russo and 9/11 (even though it's not his official position).

This goes way beyond Ron Paul, I'm sure he can at least get popular enough to hideously discredit mainstream media in the eye's of even the sheepish sheeple. But even if he doesn't; Ron Paul supporters won't stop after 2008, they will push through with a revolution, they might find themselves pushing freedom to fascism or 9/11 truth but whatever happens, the cats outa the bag.

[Anders Lindman]

Her spike was also very high which although not consistant shows the power of the mainstream media.


Absolutely. It's extremely difficult to get huge traffic like that. Even multi-million dollar commercials on big television can only generate a limited amount of traffic. One big player would be Murdoch who recently has bought even more media companies. And it could be that the Web is not mature enough yet to match Murdoch & Co.

[chris]

Absolutely. It's extremely difficult to get huge traffic like that. Even multi-million dollar commercials on big television can only generate a limited amount of traffic. One big player would be Murdoch who recently has bought even more media companies. And it could be that the Web is not mature enough yet to match Murdoch & Co.

But think, most presidential campaigns at this point are boring, no interest...This time it's different and we've got ages to go.

Just think a small movement in these early stages will make a huge difference down the line...The polls are also fixed, they only polled RP in 6 states which are least likely to have heard of him. To be honest his polls numbers considering the polling disploits are not that bad.

[Anders Lindman]

But think, most presidential campaigns at this point are boring, no interest...This time it's different and we've got ages to go.

Just think a small movement in these early stages will make a huge difference down the line...The polls are also fixed, they only polled RP in 6 states which are least likely to have heard of him. To be honest his polls numbers considering the polling disploits are not that bad.

Yes, the Ron Paul movement on the Web could become very strong (if it isn't already) and if mainstream media insists on denying Ron Paul media coverage, then we could expect a big and messy battle in the near future.

[roxanna222]

WHOOO FUCKING WHOOO! 30,000 peeps wasting their time WOW! check my post on the other RP thread...

[cruise4]

Vote Rigging and Poll fixing does have its limits. It becomes more obvious and proveable the larger the fix needed. Usually a few percentage points will make the difference. If Ron Paul does take off it could make the fixing very transparent indeed. Even the eventual nominations may not be able to withstand a seriously popular candidate with popular momentum. I don't know how the independant thing would turn out. Can they go that route in the US if he so chose?

[roxanna222]

Nope. Doesnt matter popular opinion or (dissent) wont change their plans too much. You wont get what you hope with a vote. Sorry.

[cruise4]

Hey rox, you are way to intelligent for me. Could I impose myself and beg an audience with the wise one to humbly request an enlightenment lesson in what your latest teachings actually mean?

[roxanna222]

wtf?

[roxanna222]

i treat poor dumb fucks on fridays early make an appt then lol joke

[cruise4]

Rox, I read your post about something where you were claiming to be the most intelligent one here. Its a joke!

But a serious question. What is your reason for being so down on Ron Paul?

[Anders Lindman]

Nope. Doesnt matter popular opinion or (dissent) wont change their plans too much. You wont get what you hope with a vote. Sorry.

That was true in the past, but things are changing rapidly nowadays because of the Web. I think people in mainstream media are more shocked than they would care to admit. And all candidates except Ron Paul have put all their bets in the mainstream media basket. That can turn out to be a blunder.

[chris]

Vote Rigging and Poll fixing does have its limits. It becomes more obvious and proveable the larger the fix needed. Usually a few percentage points will make the difference. If Ron Paul does take off it could make the fixing very transparent indeed. Even the eventual nominations may not be able to withstand a seriously popular candidate with popular momentum. I don't know how the independant thing would turn out. Can they go that route in the US if he so chose?

Vote rigging shouldn't be a problem for us, we are informed enough to get our ballets registered from paper ballets...

But I'm with roxanna222, let's give up.

[Anders Lindman]

But I'm with roxanna222, let's give up.

Another one bites the dust Queen - YouTube ;)

[roxanna222]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMenB9Ywh2Q ;)

Did I say "give up"? No. WAKE UP. What I have to say on the issue rubs against the "false hopes" some of you have. That can't be helped.

[Anders Lindman]

Did I say "give up"? No. WAKE UP. What I have to say on the issue rubs against the "false hopes" some of you have. That can't be helped.

I agree. I try not to cling too much on certain positions. I see the Ron Paul campaign as very exciting. But it's easy for me to sit in Sweden as a spectator, because the outcome either way may not affect me personally. In the long run, the U.S. election may be important for what happens in Europe, and so I can not take it totally as entertainment. Half-entertainment perhaps. :o

[roxanna222]

I understand yes. But trying to focus on the Bigger picture not just the symptoms. RP, the U.S., China, Amero, Euro, "Global Warming", etc. etc. symptoms to the overall mess. What happens in the U.S., or in China, etc. will affect us all in one way or another, as its designd to. The RP thing is a form of entertainment really as is the rest of what they are doing. I don't have any answers at all, just a personal game plan to avoid as much as can of the shit hurled out at us.

[chris]

Did I say "give up"? No. WAKE UP. What I have to say on the issue rubs against the "false hopes" some of you have. That can't be helped.

Have you ever seen me say RP will be the president? Have you seen me say RP will even get the nomination?

What I thinks great is that he's waking people up that aren't usually faced with this logic...

People are waking up to 9/11 through his campaign even if it's not his official position. Many people are waking up to the economy which will lead to 9/11 and nwo...He openly speaks about the nwo and one world government.

But mostly it's the media that are being discredited. When normal people see that there is a cover up going along with his online support people are asking 'why?' and here is where you can introduce them to the nwo.

When the media is no longer trusted thats when the game is over and they are loosing so much creditability at the moment. That's all I am psyched about, it's not much but its never been so good.

Plus there is the added factor that if they don't watch themselves we might be able to steal a huge victory from them but I am not counting on it.

[Anders Lindman]

I understand yes. But trying to focus on the Bigger picture not just the symptoms. RP, the U.S., China, Amero, Euro, "Global Warming", etc. etc. symptoms to the overall mess. What happens in the U.S., or in China, etc. will affect us all in one way or another, as its designd to. The RP thing is a form of entertainment really as is the rest of what they are doing. I don't have any answers at all, just a personal game plan to avoid as much as can of the shit hurled out at us.

The entertainment factor is very tempting. Look the EU and the European Parliament or whatever it's called. That can make anyone die of boredom. And then we have other sleeping pills like the Bank for International Settlements. If they want to be left alone to do their work, then the boredom tactics is very successful. What is the name of the 'president' of the EU? I have no clue. I can find the answer in a few seconds by doing a web search, but it's too friggin' boring. :D