Do You Get Annoyed With Sheeple

[moonflower]

Hi

I know that it is not really peoples fault (well it is a bit) but do you get really annoyed at people who are just out and out sheeple? I don't get annoyed so much that it affects me or makes me personally angry or hate anyone but some people, to me, are literally brainwashed and will never change. Now I thought maybe i'm being selfish as if I want others to think like me and if they aren't I then get annoyed, well it is not that, because for years i've always had a really open mind and always seen bullshit even when cloaked right in front of me, and I can see it, and have seen it for years.

I mean i've had debates with people about the two party state, global warming, cctv cameras or obama the great, and all I got was the usual "CCTV catches criminals dinnit" or "oh we really need to save the planet" or "i'm definitely voting tory next time" or "Obama's really going to change the world" (you bet!). Can people not see what is the long term agenda, the boiling frog etc, the real deal behind the curtains. I mean the truth is not hidden any more, many people have researched and proven these things beyond reasonable doubt?

No I think they do not see it and I figured out that these types of people need to see it for themselves, they cannot be helped to see the light so as to speak.

The present state we are in now is that we only need the actual secret societies to come clean because the rest of these so called conspiracy theories hold much more provable facts than the "mainstream" stories ever do.

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this. Do you feel the same about the sheeple and have you had similar experiences.

M

[size_of_light]

I call them 'mainstreamers'.

I'm hoping to coin a new phrase before I die.

[Anders Lindman]

I remember just a few years ago I was a sheeple. In my experience it takes a LOT of reprogramming to break the consensus trance. I'm probably still very much a sheeple in many of my subconscious programs. So I understand that people remain sheeple, especially if they are not interested in conspiracy info and such.

[cpfc12]

With alot of people i know, they will only go as far as the papers or media will tell them, sure they would believe that we are in the state we are, in this country, just because of renegae police officers, and some greedy politicians, they can't see the bigger picture, let alone on a global sclae.
They believe that are army, and what its doing, is honourable, simply because we are the good guys and they are the bad guy",
Of course you get the ones with "liberal" beliefs, but they are usually the worse, espescially if they are middle class, their liberal beliefs are just an attempt of being radical, but in reality they couldn't handle the thought of , or just the possiblity that there is alot more going on behind the scenes.

I usually get annoyed, when i see people from all backgrounds, organisations getting in fights with eachother, or blaming eachother for their problems, they should just see the bigger picture, that everyone is trying their best, we are just being manipulated on a large scale, however people have to take responsbility for their actions.

[krakhead]

I really hate the term sheeple! Really fucking hate it! Really divisive 'us and them' terminology, when there is really only us. Different us's, on different trips, with different experiences and different reality tunnels.

There was a time when each of us here didn't know whatever it is we think we know today, we moved on, we learned, we changed, so will others - in their own time.

[Anders Lindman]

I really hate the term sheeple! Really fucking hate it! Really divisive 'us and them' terminology, when there is really only us. Different us's, on different trips, with different experiences and different reality tunnels.

There was a time when each of us here didn't know whatever it is we think we know today, we moved on, we learned, we changed, so will others - in their own time.

Yeah, the term 'sheeple' could be just another part of the divide & conquer agenda. I use the word sheeple to mean the beliefs we have, but the term is a play on 'people' so in that sense it could be interpreted as being very demeaning.

[size_of_light]

Yeah, the term 'sheeple' could be just another part of the divide & conquer agenda. I use the word sheeple to mean the beliefs we have, but the term is a play on 'people' so in that sense it could be interpreted as being very demeaning.

Go on Anders -- 'mainstreamers'! You know it makes sense. ;)

I neeeeed to be famous for something real fucking soon! :)

[Anders Lindman]

Go on Anders -- 'mainstreamers'! You know it makes sense. ;)

I neeeeed to be famous for something real fucking soon! :)

The term 'mainstreamers' is perhaps a little better than 'sheeple' but it could still be interpreted as an 'us vs them' thing.

I think it's ok to use such terms, as long as we don't fall into the divide & conquer trap.

[fallensoul]

Honestly I don't give a shit, let them live in their sheltered bubbles. I mean they don't annoy me yet I don't sympathize with them. I see them as people who are LESS educated on the global affairs in our world.

SINCE I was born I felt like I really need to know how this world works etc. and since I learned to read all I did was find it out. I guess thats not the priority number one for most, but it has nothing to do with me.

[istlota]

We all used to be sheeple. Most [probably all] of us still are.

Ego is very good about controlling the real I by convincing us that we are superior to others due to the notion that we are more enlightened than them. But, in truth, enlightenment is a delusion since all are already all that we were ever meant to be and all we ever will be. We have just lost sight of it for this eon.

Hence, at the core of the essence of his real Self, George W. Bush is just as enlightened as David Icke.

The challenge is to look past this perception that we are physical individuals and see the God in others -- the same God which lives, breathes, and has its being in I as well. But, we [or, rather, Ego] likes to think that I am an individual embodied ego separate from other individual embodied egos.

And, just to throw oil on that fire, religions have done a good job of convincing those of us who are religious that God loves us best. I am talking about the Loved-Jacob-Hated-Esau teachings, the Chosen People doctrines, running through so many religions which insist that God is going to shower me with everlasting nirvana while punishing others for all eternity.

[size_of_light]

The term 'mainstreamers' is perhaps a little better than 'sheeple' but it could still be interpreted as an 'us vs them' thing.

I think it's ok to use such terms, as long as we don't fall into the divide & conquer trap.

'Mainstreamers' is good. It's not derogatory. It's warm and gentle.

And when they ask you 'what's wrong with being in the mainstream?' you've got the perfect opening to talk about the mainstream media and how it controls and manipulates people's perceptions into flowing back into the consensus reality.

Ah forget it!!!

If it takes off, Ian will only come on here in six months time and claim that I stole the idea off him anyway!!! :(

[arthas6014]

Maybe we should call ourselves then substreamers?:D
And yes, I get angry about some issues, when those mainstreamers pound falsity. Mainly I am quite about this now. Sigh and leave.

[size_of_light]

And yes, I get angry about some issues, when those mainstreamers pound falsity.

;)

I'm already getting an erection.

[Anders Lindman]

'Mainstreamers' is good. It's not derogatory. It's warm and gentle.

And when they ask you 'what's wrong with being in the mainstream?' you've got the perfect opening to talk about the mainstream media and how it controls and manipulates people's perceptions into flowing back into the consensus reality.

Ah forget it!!!

If it takes off, Ian will only come on here in six months time and claim that I stole the idea off him anyway!!! :(

Ok, mainstreamers could be good to use sometimes, but I like to use the word sheeple sometimes when I feel like ranting. :D

[white horse]

I really hate the term sheeple! Really fucking hate it! Really divisive 'us and them' terminology, when there is really only us. Different us's, on different trips, with different experiences and different reality tunnels.

There was a time when each of us here didn't know whatever it is we think we know today, we moved on, we learned, we changed, so will others - in their own time.

I agree - I do hate that term...

But on the other hand I do really get frustrated, like the OP - I have a friend who is really smart - went on loads of Pro-Peace marches with me in 2003 - not taken in by the wankers in charge...

But - when it comes to trying to talk about things like NWO plans, the scam that is history, physics etc etc as we've been taught in school... it's as if the shutters come down across the eyes and he is reading lines from the inside of his eyelids - it drives me fucking mental.

It is like a switch. Turns into a mechanoid in a spilt second. THAT is good programming, to turn lucid, intelligent independat people into... (*sigh*) sheep.. le (sorry! :eek:)

[spiritist]

I dont get annoyed with the sheeple ever.

I get annoyed with myself for not having influenced and enlightened them enough not to be sheeple.

[tedparrot08]

Indeed especially if their friends or family, but bollocks to it, if they choose their own downfall then be it their fault, at least I can say I tried and tried to tell them

[arthas6014]

White Horse, that part is exactly what drives me angry. When some things are debated, I mainly know from where they got particular information(and what drives to believe that info). Sometimes I see them as they are reading what they got pounded in their head, word by word.
Especially when there is a hot debate and there are lots of opinions and you know one by one, why this or that is wrong.

[fairyelfdog]

My emotions in this subject are mixed. I have always loathed willful stupidity and I'm not ashamed of that either but I deal with those emotions and have lots of empathy too. As for the term sheeple... no. Some people act like sheep. We need to see that this is the case regardless if it's we ourselves who are doing it or other people. Finding "nicer" ways to put it is not going to help. Then again despise is an ugly feeling and I do see everyones value, beauty and uniqueness. We need to be forgiving, understanding and supportive to ourselves aswell as "others". Preach over. :)

[fairyelfdog]

By the way, how do you think people from outside of this matrix sees us, hmm? ;)

[fairyelfdog]

Reading back, I think my post was too harsh.

[decode reality]

I get annoyed sometimes but I'm not fully free of matrix conditioning myself, I have to keep remembering that.

It's also a challenge because I have to learn to work/interact with people who may be on completely different paths.

[mrindigo]

'Mainstreamers' is good. It's not derogatory. It's warm and gentle.

And when they ask you 'what's wrong with being in the mainstream?' you've got the perfect opening to talk about the mainstream media and how it controls and manipulates people's perceptions into flowing back into the consensus reality.


I like that too. I'm not a fan of the sheeple term myself.



To be fair, I get annoyed with both parties at times.


Some of people who don't follow mainstream ideology can get a bit of an inflated head at times. Some think they have things figured out completely, and see fit to use their concepts as a way and means to lord over those who don't think the same, or question them. It's a little funny because it's not much different than mainstream concepts and society.

Some of the people who are heavily entrenched in the mainstream ideology just seem to lack any sort of mental processing or willingness to think outside of it. Others do think outside from time to time, but don't say anything out of fear of ridicule. They'll ask questions and then focus that ridicule on another so it's not on them. I don't go out of my way to try and push my beliefs and theories on others, but sometimes I'm asked questions. I answer them truthfully, and many times they're followed up with that ridicule I mentioned earlier. It gets frustrating because my intention is good, and I'm seeking to pitch a possible alternative. All I feel I can really do is smile/laugh and let them know that I'm not trying to force what I think on them. I think getting rude and tossing out insults and insinuations is not very productive, and often times fortifies their preconceived notion. I also can't get angry because I was once there myself, so I can empathize and relate. :)

[size_of_light]

Reading back, I think my post was too harsh.

Are you kidding? :eek:

It was great.

Anyway, don't apologise if you post something too harsh: just wake up with a throbbing headache and run downstairs praying that the EDIT button function is still active so you can delete what you wrote before anybody quotes what you said. ;) :p

[mrindigo]

Reading back, I think my post was too harsh.

I don't think what you posted was too harsh either. You spoke your mind, and that's of more value than being politically correct.

[pegcityevolve]

I dont get annoyed with the sheeple ever.

I get annoyed with myself for not having influenced and enlightened them enough not to be sheeple.Same here, except maybe not the ever part. Sometimes it just happens, but then I reflect and apologize.

[fairyelfdog]

Thank you, Size of light and mrindigo. I can feel the respect from here. Lovely people :)

[white horse]

White Horse, that part is exactly what drives me angry. When some things are debated, I mainly know from where they got particular information(and what drives to believe that info). Sometimes I see them as they are reading what they got pounded in their head, word by word.
Especially when there is a hot debate and there are lots of opinions and you know one by one, why this or that is wrong.

That's right - take Egyptology. I was trying ot explain how disciplnes like Egyptology are like an inverted pyramid; the entire basis of the discipine is founded on some tiny flawed assumptions made by victorian gents... What about modern geologists who assert that the Sphynx has suffered about 12,000 years of weathering?????! :eek:

Archaeology - barbaric; it destroys the very evidence it is lookign at as it records it. Many times assumptions made by archaeology are shown to be based on one or two shaky assumptions, that were really gues work to begin with, say by some amature in the 50s; the recording methods back then very dodgy. And you have based all your text books and teaching our kids this?

It's liek physics; all our text books are base don Einstein. Yet it is still only a theory, an OPINION. Reasd Tesla, he tears Einstain apart - and yknow what Einstein agrees!? He calle dGeneral Relativity his greatest joke, and yet that is what we go with. That would be fine but we dont even mention the alternative theories at all.

Its a horrible process, and I remmebr myself being a 'mainstramer' - but once yove woken up you can't go back; it is literally like taking that blue pill...

[white horse]

BTW - I like that... 'Mainstreamers' is a much better term! :)

[armoured_amazon]

SINCE I was born I felt like I really need to know how this world works etc. and since I learned to read all I did was find it out. I guess thats not the priority number one for most, but it has nothing to do with me.

+1

My family brought me up outside of the Matrix. Probably why I'm so strange, haha :D

[wake_up_bomb]

The only time I get annoyed with 'sheeple' is when they condemn or violently reject views that differ from their own. Or accept the word of 'experts' without questioning what they're hearing. I heard two classic examples of this on the radio last night.

With it being 40 years since the moon landings, the BBC encouraged several 'moon landing enthusiasts' to field a call from someone who questioned that it had taken place. I have no strong opinion on this issue, but I'm happy to hear all viewpoints. The presenter of the programme happily let them interrupt, shout the caller down, and prevent him from finishing his points.

What is obvious to me about the moon landings, is that there was absolutely no moral or practical justification for the massive budget that was shelled out to NASA. The 'moon landing enthusiasts' attempted to justify this, by stating that due to the moon landing, many technological leaps had been made. The presenter of the programme was absolutely useless, and didn't even put to them the blindingly obvious point, that much of the technlogy could have been developed much more cost effectively and quickly without the diversion of having to develop a space shuttle! They actually put forward pot noodles as an example of something that had been developed because of the moon landings. The space programme - cost billions of dollars, but we got pot noodles out of it!

That sort of thing annoys me. I could have phoned up, but I know I wouldn't have been given a fair hearing.

[frase]

Well 2 years ago I remember telling someone they were ridiculous and off their heads for suggesting 9/11 was an inside job, the reaction of many of my family and friends now when i tell them the same...
Each to their own, I think the key is to just offer suggestion-Don't preach at people, you will scare them off.
Just offer hints for them to look at,Offer to send a coupy of llose change for example.
At the end of the day some people just want to try and enjoy their lives....
Nothing wrong with that.
Had a discussion with my Dad recently talking about 9/11 etc.
He doesn't care..he just asked "where is all this information going to get you?"
He has a point, but it is still ever so fascinating.
"The best show in town" as one of my new friends tells me!!

[pri01]

I've given up offering my "More Intelligent" colleagues my pearls of wisdom. I cannot believe that these clever sods are so quick to condemn without investigating for themselves. When I was first introduced to David Icke I was kind of given the glimmer and went on to turn my own lights on. That is, a friend said we are all slaves and I asked what they meant and they said go find out. Well I bothered my backside to do just that and I let the light in.

Am I annoyed with them? Not in the least, but I am frustrated for them and a little disappointed in their lack of confidence in me. I won't hold a grudge though, I promise to visit them in hospital when they all come down with swine flu.:D:rolleyes:

[realfake]

They only annoy me when they try to force what used to be a mutually shared understanding on how the world 'is' back onto me.

The sheep, mainstreamers < :D sleepers, whatever you want to call them, are only ever one experience away from a cold, sharp shock. Afterall, ignorance is only bliss for a short while.

[steevo]

Only VERY occasionally do I get slightly annoyed with sheeple. But they are our friends and families, so we have to understand where they are at the moment, cos we were there once upon a time, and to some extent we still are.

[armoured_amazon]

Well 2 years ago I remember telling someone they were ridiculous and off their heads for suggesting 9/11 was an inside job, the reaction of many of my family and friends now when i tell them the same...
Each to their own, I think the key is to just offer suggestion-Don't preach at people, you will scare them off.
Just offer hints for them to look at,Offer to send a coupy of llose change for example.
At the end of the day some people just want to try and enjoy their lives....
Nothing wrong with that.
Had a discussion with my Dad recently talking about 9/11 etc.
He doesn't care..he just asked "where is all this information going to get you?"
He has a point, but it is still ever so fascinating.
"The best show in town" as one of my new friends tells me!!

I'm curious - because I've always been thisside of the fence - what was it that brought about the change in your opinions/attitude/beliefs? It interests me because I am often at a loss knowing how to approach people with alternatives to their thinking, particularly when they are vocal in their mainstream viewpoint.

:)

[runlikehell]

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this. Do you feel the same about the sheeple and have you had similar experiences.
M

Get annoyed at the sheeple! Never!

For they provide us with wool, in the cold winter months and mutton to feed ourselves with!

and got to mention the nice fresh lamb in the summer!

[white horse]

I'm curious - because I've always been thisside of the fence - what was it that brought about the change in your opinions/attitude/beliefs? It interests me because I am often at a loss knowing how to approach people with alternatives to their thinking, particularly when they are vocal in their mainstream viewpoint.

:)

It was 911...

Picture an enourmous mirror, shattering in slow motion... that was what it was like.

I always distrusted governments; but realising 911 was an inside job, brought the whole house of cards down.
That was a couple of years ago...

At the turn on 2009 I realised that EVERYTHING has been a fucking inside job and a total lie!! Realising 30+ years of your life has been lived in a matrix of whoppers is a shock...

This last few months, fidning out the Stonehenge is a total fake was the very last straw. The old me is dead... EVERYTHING I Knew is false. Black is white. Up is down.

Long live whoever I am now!

[white horse]

Get annoyed at the sheeple! Never!

For they provide us with wool, in the cold winter months and mutton to feed ourselves with!

and got to mention the nice fresh lamb in the summer!

your starting to sound like a NWO drone!

[les_paul_robot]

This last few months, fidning out the Stonehenge is a total fake was the very last straw.What are you on about?:confused:

[paradise_1000]

I think Sheeple is an offensive word TBH

Just because you you read some stuff on the NET ( By the way the NET was made by the people that control ??) and are told there is a mass conspiracy and every one going about their daily lives is oblivious to the control are Sheep :rolleyes:

Have you thought you are just a different flock of sheep being fed a different set of lies

After all if they really are that smart and have been putting people under control for hundreds of years

Why the fuck are they going to let it all slip with a silly mistake like the NET ??


yep sheep of a different flock IMHO :(


Alot of you guys love all this its like an adventure to some

Not hating I am very guilty of jumping in myself but we all really NEED to sit back a little and see

its all about one love and one nation under the groove of life

just because fred (for example ) who you work with thinks the world is fine and 911 was done by muslims and an attempt at trying to convert him to your way of seeing was laughed at by him

you call him a sheep or the fellow every day just living their lives sheeple

NO NO NO

Keep doing what you do !! thats all we can do but try and think out side of the outside of the box if you get what I mean ??


peace and love and leave out the I am so informed everyone else is sheeple thing :rolleyes: this def sounds cheesy guys :rolleyes:

Paradise

[les_paul_robot]

I think Sheeple is an offensive word TBH

Just because you you read some stuff on the NET ( By the way the NET was made by the people that control ??) and are told there is a mass conspiracy and every one going about their daily lives is oblivious to the control are Sheep :rolleyes:I can't stand sheeple sometimes. Why are they so dozy?
I learnt stuff by reading books. No doubt caring sharing Al Gore will claim he invented those too.
I don't think we should be 'sitting back' at all. We should be taking action. These sheepoids will stab you in the back for a nice new Ford Focus. If they're not with us, they're against us!!! No hang on, that sounds like someone I don't like...
The point is, Fred in his doziness is actively and willingly contributing to his own enslavement, and that of everyone else. That's why we need to wake them up.
Go to the leaflet section, print some out and put them through people's doors. Put a link to illuminati-news.com, or similar websites, on the bottom of all your private emails. Even ones at work, fuck em.

[armoured_amazon]

It was 911...

Picture an enourmous mirror, shattering in slow motion... that was what it was like.

I always distrusted governments; but realising 911 was an inside job, brought the whole house of cards down.
That was a couple of years ago...

At the turn on 2009 I realised that EVERYTHING has been a fucking inside job and a total lie!! Realising 30+ years of your life has been lived in a matrix of whoppers is a shock...

This last few months, fidning out the Stonehenge is a total fake was the very last straw. The old me is dead... EVERYTHING I Knew is false. Black is white. Up is down.

Long live whoever I am now!

Awesome :)

I remember sitting with my neighbours in my living room watching as the towers were hit and subsequently fell. Words can't express the feelings, but you put it well, like a huge mirror shattering - I instinctively knew it was false flag as soon as the girl downstairs knocked and told me to put the TV on, but I never imagined they would go so far as to murder so many citizens live on air.

911 was an acceleration point for me and I think they underestimated us.

Even now - I was thinking about this a few moments ago while making coffee - as fast as they drag us down, it seems people are awakening at a wonderfully speedy rate, scales are falling from eyes.

Sure, there are a lot of people still plugged in, and unfortunately, always will be, but the resistance is growing faster than any virus they can create.

:D

[reptileslayer]

The term 'mainstreamers' is perhaps a little better than 'sheeple' but it could still be interpreted as an 'us vs them' thing.

I think it's ok to use such terms, as long as we don't fall into the divide & conquer trap.
'sheeple' is just a defining term/word to in my opinion accurately describe the sad level most of the public are at. Which has to be clearly pointed out, on a regular basis Period.

[crimsonblade]

I prefer the term 'System Servers'.

[paradise_1000]

Think about this

common theory with conspiricy is thinking out of the box yeah?

Well if a box has 6 sides then there will be in effect 6 sides of thought that will extrude


cosmic dynamics ?

then if you think out side that there is another six sides :0
t
hen if you think angling the box will create more sides in a sense


= more sides or beams of thought

wow getting abit tech on this :)


I mst def am onto something though

only UNsheeple folk will pick up on this

[fairyelfdog]

+1

My family brought me up outside of the Matrix. Probably why I'm so strange, haha :D

Lucky amazon! I wish i had parents like that....

[ectocooler hic]

To be honest i get extremely annoyed. People think its funny but i wonder if itd be ok to call them conspiracy nuts when their family's being drug away. People ignore the most basic even mainstream knowledge/news/signs. They dont know anything of what's going on in the world but want to oppose u...on what basis!!!? Yur not even knowledgable one way or the other! Their ignorance puts us in danger, id say these types r irritating...those who r worldly but just debate u friendly and disagree...i dont mind those type of misled people but i despise the willingly cynical

[fairyelfdog]

It was 911...

Picture an enourmous mirror, shattering in slow motion... that was what it was like.

I always distrusted governments; but realising 911 was an inside job, brought the whole house of cards down.
That was a couple of years ago...

At the turn on 2009 I realised that EVERYTHING has been a fucking inside job and a total lie!! Realising 30+ years of your life has been lived in a matrix of whoppers is a shock...

This last few months, finding out the Stonehenge is a total fake was the very last straw. The old me is dead... EVERYTHING I Knew is false. Black is white. Up is down.

Long live whoever I am now!

My Word, this is so true.... The agony is indescribable. You can't think of anything else then whats been done to this world and to us. I cried for weeks, couldn't sleep at night, wrote dark poetry (I still do). A phrase kept and keeps returning to me "imprisoned love". I was already "spiritually aware" (I don't know how to put it better) when this happened to me. This was a good thing. I'm not sure how I would have handled it otherwise. Then you start considering how you have added to this delusion and what consequences it has had..... This is why it is so important to support and not mock people who are going through this.

It's also true that once it has happened, there is no way to go back.

[fairyelfdog]

To be honest i get extremely annoyed. People think its funny but i wonder if itd be ok to call them conspiracy nuts when their family's being drug away. People ignore the most basic even mainstream knowledge/news/signs. They dont know anything of what's going on in the world but want to oppose u...on what basis!!!? Yur not even knowledgable one way or the other! Their ignorance puts us in danger, id say these types r irritating...those who r worldly but just debate u friendly and disagree...i dont mind those type of misled people but i despise the willingly cynical

This is perfectly alright. I understand your emotions. I'd suggest that you go take it out on a pillow or similar though or go scream like a very insane person :) I do this sometimes myself ;) When anger has been spent it's so easy to return to love. The only thing I'd object with is letting it become a permanent attitude through which you filter everything.

[nofuture]

I hate those people who when they're losing an argument or denying evidence you're presenting, look around and start smirking and rolling their eyes to other people, as if mob rule makes them right and you wrong.

There's no denying it, some people just deeply resent you trying to remove them from their comfort zone. They will richly deserve whatever's coming.

[arthas6014]

Yes, there are more people waking up than before. Yes, some people get very intelligent. Yes, the contradictions are in plain view. But what if those woken will be in such mass that they won't do what government will tell you to do? And this small bunch of people, who obeys government, do something as they always have been done before, obeyingly. What if epidemic will come out and governments really will have only this time true serum that will cure us all and only those most obeying creatures will take that serum/vaccine? And others, like us, will die. After that incident, well... people will have 'reassurement' that we are conspiracy nuts. The End. P.S. Global Cyber Domination. God how smart I am:D

But about archeology and history. Man I am mad about it. Someone will write some fictional shit about muses and after that some drunken monk will come and write this up as a fact and after that some scientist will stumble about the monks 'fact' and will write an essay about that and after centuries, again, some organization will analyze this and say this is a universal fact. And after that everyone agrees this is what happened and because of that the fixation of perception is fixated. Whatever:D

[song_of_susannah]

Funnily enough I had a bit of a to-do only last night with someone. I've come to the conclusion that some minds are just not wired to receive truther information, no matter how many facts, proof etc you throw into the mix.

[truthsupplier]

Think back (for some of us it`s twenty years plus, others slightly less) and remember if you will the "supposed comfort" of the "ostrich position" before your awakening. Now imagine the same frustration being swallowed so you could have your arrival here where knowledge rules and supposition falls by the wayside... accident? I think not.

Bite your tongue and continue to "lead the blind" and give thanks that it is you leading, not the other way around. "I told you so" will be some of the roughest to utter when the shit hits the fan... that is if you can even locate the "Doubting Thomas" candidates when (not if) that day comes. When wailing and gnashing of teeth drown out the cries of "you`re crazy", TOO LATE WILL HAVE ARRIVED.

Quit bitching and start preparing or shut up... taught me, and well, I must confess. "Do", not wish I had... work, not "if I have time"... You know the call has been made, what are YOU going to do?

[epsom]

After over 40 years studying and researching the unexplained, conspiracies and the like (from when I was 12!!), I now have questions I put to those with whom I am debating---namely..
"So how many years have you studied (whatever subject we happen to be discussing)?"

Invariably, the answer is silence.

Try this when you discuss these topics with radio hosts and the like....then state that it is a waste of time discussing subjects with them that they have failed to research.

It is like a mathematics professor debating maths with a math illiterate.

[moonflower]

"I hate those people who when they're losing an argument or denying evidence you're presenting, look around and start smirking and rolling their eyes to other people, as if mob rule makes them right and you wrong."

I've been in company where i've shaken a cage by mentioning something that some people seem to get uneasy about (why I don't know). What I feel is that some people see the need to pre-qualify their social acceptability and thus to do this involves actually deriding someone 'out of the norm' so they "appear" to be going along with the accepted social fabric. But in reality the beliefs of this person are probably much the same as 'out of the norm' individual.

I mean put it this way if you are in a room full of people would you feel easier (but not agree) to accepting the norm convention of the crowd? You would feel easier just going along but that is what is wrong, people need to get up and make a difference. I have done it many times and i'll tell you I have made a lot of enemies (well people that think i'm just weird). However that tells me that these people do not agree with free speech - and are part of the self-made prison - so are not worth knowing anyway.

I don't know what is wrong because as i've said most of these conspiracy theories have more provable theories than the official nonsense so it's not about being nuts is it.

As H.L. Mencken said

"The people the Americans adore most are the people who are the biggest liars, the people they hate the most are those who try to tell them the truth"

Fucking de ja vous!

M

[3stepsahead]

hello

to our joy there is qite a large bunch of truthers in all countries. im talking about regular people who insitinctively knows that an report is false or that history speaks the truth about the present.

just today someone told me that global warming is a load of coke
and thats quite common if you litsen around. both young and old.

it seems that it is the establishemt and its little goon dwarfs that is unendlessly spouting the pro msm/govt agenda, and as result regular people consent but most people do infact entertain the idea that something is wrong.
that little something is enough imo, for when the chocolate hits the fan they will seek reason. just like the 911 event, made scores of people more aware and more engaged in whats really happening around here.


hmm did i write that?:D

so infact what you call sheeple are for the large part the perps themselves. normal people cant really be labelled for being abused.
i guess the new term would be curly morons :D

[paradise_1000]

Think about this

common theory with conspiricy is thinking out of the box yeah?

Well if a box has 6 sides then there will be in effect 6 sides of thought that will extrude


cosmic dynamics ?

then if you think out side that there is another six sides :0
t
hen if you think angling the box will create more sides in a sense


= more sides or beams of thought

wow getting abit tech on this :)


I mst def am onto something though

only UNsheeple folk will pick up on this

Jesus m8 wtf sounding like bob jones :0 but still :)

[forestgrump]

I don't really get annoyed with 'sheeple'. I mean who are they exactly?

Even on this board their is a wide range of conflicting views about what is the truth and what is not. For example, some people believe the moon landing was fake, some believe that the astronauts did go to the moon but were warned off by aliens.

A lot of people believe that there are anomalies with 911 or, as we have seen recently, with the death of David Kelly but they will roll their eyes when reptilians are mentioned. And for that matter, what is a reptilian? A lizard? A demon? I know how David Icke defines them but on this board there are again conflicting views.

So at what level of conflict with your beliefs do people become 'sheeple'?

[howie]

I get annoyed with the sheeple who I know are going to vaccinate their kids in september, I've tried sending them articles & videos on the subject but they refuse to watch that "nonsense".

[alzee]

I really hate the term sheeple! Really fucking hate it! Really divisive 'us and them' terminology, when there is really only us. Different us's, on different trips, with different experiences and different reality tunnels.

There was a time when each of us here didn't know whatever it is we think we know today, we moved on, we learned, we changed, so will others - in their own time.

+1

I get more annoyed with people calling others "sheeple" than I do with the, ahem, "sheeple" themselves.

We were/are all asleep to one extent or another. If we'd had folks berating us for being sheeple I believe that many of us would've simply dug our heels in harder to hang onto our old realities.

A Sheeple is just a person who's yet to awaken. Help them, don't berate them.

[surfer91]

If some of you think the word "SHEEPLE" is bad.Ive got a better work.How
about"DRONES"..