Ayahuasca overdose, see's Reptilians.

[cleft_asunder]

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=17143

[montag]

The Teachings of _ _ are serving to further anchor the intruder races into the material plane....give them up!
Do you think they might be talking about Icke here?

[logic bomb]

Do you think they might be talking about Icke here?

Montag, DI is far from being a "Teacher". Maybe Don Juan? But could be anyone.

lb

[herebynightfall]

most likely is david.. interesting article.. erowid is usually a fun site to visit.

[montag]

Montag, DI is far from being a "Teacher".

lb
:confused: Urmm ok..

[logic bomb]

:confused: Urmm ok..

OK. I guess it depends on how you define Teacher and Teachings.

lb

[ashyr]

True learning is a method of internal discovery under the guidance of external reminders, and of consciously experiencing life.

[john white]

The horror I faced was like none I've ever seen. I would not wish it on anyone. This was an Astral Battle in the strictest sense. The fact that I'm still alive makes me the victor and I can assure you those buggers were pissed. They want total control over the human race, and they control thru the realms of thought. Somehow I kept pushing them further out to the edges of the plane of contact. I saw future versions of Terra that were completely free from the corruption that is commonplace today. People loved each other and the Earth and all was in harmony. I do not expect that others will have to deal with this sort of thing necessarily. It is my belief that some of us basically signed up for extreme duty because we had some latent talent to face it down. Woe be to any who think we are alone in this big game, or that these are the ravings of one deranged.
The bottom line is we can win this time if we can remember ourselves. Some of us came back from the future to change the course of this timeline. That I know. Matters of Spirit are simple. I hope this helps someone.


LOL! Groking "awareness" can strike one like that, and he wanted it strong and full-on: looks like he got his wish!

Worth it for what he gained though from his POV

[cleft_asunder]

"Something BIG is coming, or have I lost my mind?"

Yeah, very cool shit.

http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10789&highlight=2012
http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10846&highlight=coming+final+chapte

[supertzar]

There is another one where someone's friend smoked salvia extract and came running into the house screaming about lizard men chasing him. Be careful with this kind of thing, people.

[cleft_asunder]

Yeah ummm, I'm getting sick of being spiritually stagnant. I feel like I have no connection to God --or more accurately, I don't know what God is, only what I've read. I want answers, and I'm going to use drugs as a battering ram.

I ordered 30g of Mimosa (MAOI), and I have some Syrian Rue 10x extract to go with it. People call this plant combination "North American Ayahuasca," the two plants substituting Banisteriopsis Caapi and Chakruna. While technically not Ayahuasca, it has a right to be called by that name because it's no more or less significant. Every plant combination has it's own characteristics.

Hopefully I prepare the brew well, so that I can post an interesting followup.

[cleft_asunder]

There is another one where someone's friend smoked salvia extract and came running into the house screaming about lizard men chasing him. Be careful with this kind of thing, people.

Fear makes you a victim. Love makes you an arbiter. Know what to expect before you do anything like that.

Any way, what I'm going to do with the brew is to focus on closed eyed. I believe that it is the key to spiritualty. I've done mushrooms only with open eyes, but you don't reall learn much. Sure everything is altered, and really funny (until the down), but it's like a waste if you do it open eyed.

[supertzar]

Not saying to fear it. Just be aware and do it under the best possible circumstances.

[bicycle]

:eek:

[rixxmixxhell]

^^^^ that face thing is worth a thousand words man hehehehe
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[cleft_asunder]

It ain't david, he's doesn't need to reinforce the truth by posting anonymously.

[zedd]

I'm curious how many of these experiences are based on preconceived ideas. If you study into the use of these substances and read over people's testimonials, then you naturally have an expectation. This expectation could lead you to see similar things as other people because you already think you will.

The real test would be to give this stuff to a friend whom you do not discuss the idea of Reptoids with, or any of this extra dimensional stuff, and see what they experience.

[shellygurrrl]

Fear makes you a victim. Love makes you an arbiter. Know what to expect before you do anything like that.

Any way, what I'm going to do with the brew is to focus on closed eyed. I believe that it is the key to spiritualty. I've done mushrooms only with open eyes, but you don't reall learn much. Sure everything is altered, and really funny (until the down), but it's like a waste if you do it open eyed.
I've had some good experiences with remote viewing closed eyed.

Interesting thread!

[shansuke]

Yeah ummm, I'm getting sick of being spiritually stagnant. I feel like I have no connection to God --or more accurately, I don't know what God is, only what I've read. I want answers, and I'm going to use drugs as a battering ram.

I ordered 30g of Mimosa (MAOI), and I have some Syrian Rue 10x extract to go with it. People call this plant combination "North American Ayahuasca," the two plants substituting Banisteriopsis Caapi and Chakruna. While technically not Ayahuasca, it has a right to be called by that name because it's no more or less significant. Every plant combination has it's own characteristics.

Hopefully I prepare the brew well, so that I can post an interesting followup.

remember to be carfull with your amounts,you dont want to take any more than the equivelant of 3.1/2 grams of syrian rue,(maoi).and if your mimosa is premium inner bark(sometimes known as purple pink)then 30 grams would be considered 5 to 10 doses,if its just regular root bark(ie,with the outer bark left on)then you have a good 2 to 4 doses.

[danster82]

Matthew 11:12(KJV)
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

I beleive this is refering to people taking drugs for a spiritual experience when patients is running thin.

[edelweiss pirate]

Do you think they might be talking about Icke here?

Interesting.. very interesting.

[edelweiss pirate]

They want total control over the human race, and they control thru the realms of thought. Somehow I kept pushing them further out to the edges of the plane of contact. I saw future versions of Terra that were completely free from the corruption that is commonplace today. People loved each other and the Earth and all was in harmony. I do not expect that others will have to deal with this sort of thing necessarily. It is my belief that some of us basically signed up for extreme duty because we had some latent talent to face it down. Woe be to any who think we are alone in this big game, or that these are the ravings of one deranged.
The bottom line is we can win this time if we can remember ourselves. Some of us came back from the future to change the course of this timeline. That I know. Matters of Spirit are simple. I hope this helps someone.

I've noticed the same thing. They control us through our thoughts... That's why the conspiracy is so all pervasive. We are all controlled by a single entity which can gain easy access to our minds.

The only way to be free is to learn to silence your thoughts at will and live on your will alone.

[dmt head]

:eek:Dunno if I beleive that report. he says, "25G Mimosa hostilis / 250G Banisteriopsis cappi / 50G Psychotria viridis / and 50G Chaliponga (Diplopterys cabrerana"

Think thats far too much you only need as shansuke says like 3-5g of inner mimosa bark or outer mabe 12 for a strong experience, then on top of that hes took 50 chaliponga?? Your only supposed to need 7g of that for a strong experience. Ive got 50g of that, brewed, dying to take it but life keeps getting in the way, and ill only be taking 4g to start off. The 50g viridis is kinda standard, but on top of the chaliponga and mimosa? Then on top of that 250g of cappi?? 100g seems a lot to me, tho think I will take more one day, just seems far too much, maybe his brewing wasnt great and he got away with it or something I dunno but they amounts are ridiculous!

[edelweiss pirate]

:eek:Dunno if I beleive that report. he says, "25G Mimosa hostilis / 250G Banisteriopsis cappi / 50G Psychotria viridis / and 50G Chaliponga (Diplopterys cabrerana"

Think thats far too much you only need as shansuke says like 3-5g of inner mimosa bark or outer mabe 12 for a strong experience, then on top of that hes took 50 chaliponga?? Your only supposed to need 7g of that for a strong experience. Ive got 50g of that, brewed, dying to take it but life keeps getting in the way, and ill only be taking 4g to start off. The 50g viridis is kinda standard, but on top of the chaliponga and mimosa? Then on top of that 250g of cappi?? 100g seems a lot to me, tho think I will take more one day, just seems far too much, maybe his brewing wasnt great and he got away with it or something I dunno but they amounts are ridiculous!

They are that's why he nearly died.

I took about 100 grams of leaves and vine and just got a little DMT buzz.

Some is less potent than others and you get many people who just didn't take enough to get anywhere.

[dmt head]

Those numbers are just ridiculous though, how the hell he came to the conclusion of taking that much I dont know. Ive been taking vine only brews recently and just havent had the oppurtunity to take the leave with the vine yet, tho ive had no luck with the chacruna, just hasnt been working for me at all, thats why ive got the chaliponga brewed up, but finding the time is a pain.

[dmt head]

Some is less potent than others and you get many people who just didn't take enough to get anywhere.

You could smoke some dmt thatd get you there, qucik sharp :D

[natallsy]

isn't there a Ayauasca group based in Wales?

[edelweiss pirate]

Those numbers are just ridiculous though, how the hell he came to the conclusion of taking that much I dont know. Ive been taking vine only brews recently and just havent had the oppurtunity to take the leave with the vine yet, tho ive had no luck with the chacruna, just hasnt been working for me at all, thats why ive got the chaliponga brewed up, but finding the time is a pain.

Do you get anything from taking vine alone?

Isn't the vine the MAO inhibitor that allows you to trip from the undigested DMT in the Chacruna leaves?

[dmt head]

Id love to hear if there was, ive been looking into retreats in holland the last couple of days, then my mate said he heard theres some in the north of scotland somwhere, hopefully find out the next week or so.

[dmt head]

Do you get anything from taking vine alone?

Isn't the vine the MAO inhibitor that allows you to trip from the undigested DMT in the Chacruna leaves?

Oh vine alone is amazing, it just heals you and has its own psychadelic properties too. My girlfriend hasnt taken a drug in her life and I convinced her to try some vine, for healing, she loves it cant wait to do it again, really does heal you its amazing! Highly recommended! Its like waves of numbness all over your body, they say thats her healing you and it certainly feels like it. My girlfirend said she felt healed and she likened it to reiki, the numb rushes, certainly helped her, id be drinking a lot more often if I wasnt so busy with work and stuff, and would add soem admixture plants from time to time, but do plan drinking vine alone forever :D Thats how im feeeling about her just now shes just amazing!! :D

EDIT oh and yes the vine does give maoi to allow the dmt to work, but has its own psychedeilc propperties its self

[shansuke]

:eek:Dunno if I beleive that report. he says, "25G Mimosa hostilis / 250G Banisteriopsis cappi / 50G Psychotria viridis / and 50G Chaliponga (Diplopterys cabrerana"

Think thats far too much you only need as shansuke says like 3-5g of inner mimosa bark or outer mabe 12 for a strong experience, then on top of that hes took 50 chaliponga?? Your only supposed to need 7g of that for a strong experience. Ive got 50g of that, brewed, dying to take it but life keeps getting in the way, and ill only be taking 4g to start off. The 50g viridis is kinda standard, but on top of the chaliponga and mimosa? Then on top of that 250g of cappi?? 100g seems a lot to me, tho think I will take more one day, just seems far too much, maybe his brewing wasnt great and he got away with it or something I dunno but they amounts are ridiculous!

these amount are just plain crazy.what i dont get is that 5 days were spent making the brew and obviously no time at all was spent reading up on a proper dose amount.i cant imagine trying to drink a brew like this when 50 grams of vine and 50 gram of chacruna is hard enough to hold down by itself.and lemons should never be used for making brews as it wont evaporate in the brewing prosses,use apple cider vinegar or white wine vinegar......i think the fact that he forced himself to heave after 20 mins saved him by bringing most of the brew back up.

[dmt head]

Agreed, find it hard to beleive, spending all that time brewing and not even researching it is another strange thing to do. Do you think if he didnt bring it up he could have died? Would the body go into shock or something and just pakc in?

[whiterain]

I'm curious how many of these experiences are based on preconceived ideas. If you study into the use of these substances and read over people's testimonials, then you naturally have an expectation. This expectation could lead you to see similar things as other people because you already think you will.

The real test would be to give this stuff to a friend whom you do not discuss the idea of Reptoids with, or any of this extra dimensional stuff, and see what they experience.

before experiencing a multi dimensional trip i knew very little about the possibilities. dunno nowt about reptilians but i guess when peoples fears manifest this could be a very common theme. my fears were manifest in astral policemen by the 100s. pretty fucking freaky until you realise your creating it. after that i figured if they could cover up such an amazing experience as i had, what else is out there. and that led me here and the great info and people here helped me realise that the ideas i had been having were not unrealistc crazy fantsays but simply different realities achieved through perceptual changes, and for that i thank you all. xxx