When Dec 2012 comes.....

[stewart edwards]

...and goes and people realise that it was a bit of a damp squid with life going on, I wonder what the next significant date for phrophecy will be?

Should be a good year. London will host the Olympics and we will win most of the gold medals, I become European president, Mike Martin and Lightgiver become two of my "no" men, Scotland takes a further step forwards in its international prestige (well I will be European President after all), and Egypt will regain legal title of its national treasures abroad. (thats me just upset every museum in the world outside Egypt).

Seriously though, what will the consipracy sites be saying in Jan 2013?

[lady_oblivion]

lol good point i really dont see anything happening in 2012, though me and andy have a running joke now that 2012 will be the year of two christmas's(well 3 if you count my yule celebration lol). It will be interesting to see what the topic when its all been and gone.

[lightgiver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRqTw_HEC5U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZEsveX-s4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brXQOdzvBBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS7x8SDkrnI

[lady_oblivion]

I really do not think that anything harmful will happen to us and i certainly do not belive in this nibiru stuff, after making my research into it and what have you. Do want to watch the videos but no sound so it would make it a little pointless atm. So what was your view lightbringer?

If anything happens it will be more of a spiritual thing. But anyway i will be celebrating the winter solstice as i do every year including in 2012

[lightgiver]

I really do not think that anything harmful will happen to us and i certainly do not belive in this nibiru stuff, after making my research into it and what have you. Do want to watch the videos but no sound so it would make it a little pointless atm. So what was your view lightbringer?

If anything happens it will be more of a spiritual thing. But anyway i will be celebrating the winter solstice as i do every year including in 2012

I like to keep optimystic ;)

Optimism is "an inclination to put the most favourable construction upon actions and events or to anticipate the best possible outcome". It is the philosophical opposite of pessimism. Optimists generally believe that people and events are inherently good, so that most situations work out in the end for the best.

[lady_oblivion]

lol i try to stay optimistic but some times it slips badly haha!

[disorder2k8]

always expect nothing, that way you will be pleasantly surprised :)

[lady_oblivion]

And i do like supprises. Someone should really do a poll on this site to who belives what will happen on that fateful day of 2012 LOL. Urmm idea. What does the sites namestake think will happen. Dont know alot about david as stumbled on this site very randomly and decided to stay.

[disorder2k8]

I hope it will have the effect of reverse psychology, nothing happens and we finally realise that nothing is coming to wipe the slate clean for us, nothing is coming to 'cleanse' all the evil so we can start over and yes we do have to get off our lazy asses and finally do something ourselves instead of waiting for someone else to do it.

Maybe poverty will inspire us.

[lady_oblivion]

I find it amusing that so many people want something bad to happen always predicting the end of the world and the sheep which simply follow. This world is a glorious and wonderful thing. Yes there are members of the human race which are mist dispicable but the vast majority of us are not. We should celebrate our resilience instead of wanting something to wipe us out,

What i do hope is that the human race will devolop to be more concioussly aware and more understanding and tollerent of each other, rather then bicker and fight and cause pain and suffering.

We dont have a lot for one another really, we're devided and some people are so stuck within there own pardigms its almost saddening.

SOrry mini rant over. What can i say i'm a free thinker and a free sprit.

[lightgiver]

I find it amusing that so many people want something bad to happen always predicting the end of the world and the sheep which simply follow. This world is a glorious and wonderful thing. Yes there are members of the human race which are mist dispicable but the vast majority of us are not. We should celebrate our resilience instead of wanting something to wipe us out,

What i do hope is that the human race will devolop to be more concioussly aware and more understanding and tollerent of each other, rather then bicker and fight and cause pain and suffering.

We dont have a lot for one another really, we're devided and some people are so stuck within there own pardigms its almost saddening.

SOrry mini rant over. What can i say i'm a free thinker and a free sprit.


You had better let TPTB know,they appear to have forgotten ;)

Oh BTW,speaking of trouble and wiping things out

India signs historic $146-million arms deal with US,1 of many thousands,

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/11436-israeli-defence-giant-arms-deal-indias-tata.html

http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=9381

http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/71316/National/1/20/1

we wouldn't want the Massive Military industry complex to be affected,you know on this little planet in space.

I am sure the money could be better spent don't you?

[lady_oblivion]

TPTB? Sorry i know this sounds dull but cant work it out(my excuse its late or early depending on how you wish to look at it)

I am a little bit of an idealist but i know when to be realistic. Your thread on self evolution, I've seen it as an evolution of my conciousness rather then my physical body. I think thats what humanity needs LOL.

Anywho, I can think of many other things that money would be better spent on rather then weapons.

[lightgiver]

TPTB? Sorry i know this sounds dull but cant work it out(my excuse its late or early depending on how you wish to look at it)

I am a little bit of an idealist but i know when to be realistic. Your thread on self evolution, I've seen it as an evolution of my conciousness rather then my physical body. I think thats what humanity needs LOL.

Anywho, I can think of many other things that money would be better spent on rather then weapons.

The Powers That Be.:)

[lady_oblivion]

Ahh well perhaps we should all get together and kick there hineys. But then again(this proberly belongs on another thread but wth) i have noticed and awful lot of dumbing down in this country..

[lightgiver]

Ahh well perhaps we should all get together and kick there hineys. But then again(this proberly belongs on another thread but wth) i have noticed and awful lot of dumbing down in this country..

Yes I agree :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpDpIihVd0

who knows?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5eEJboEm9A

Great for Holly wood.

[lady_oblivion]

Yay more vids to watch. I really should get my speakers sorted out.

[lightgiver]

Yay more vids to watch. I really should get my speakers sorted out.

or headphones ;):)

better version here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc

[thelonious]

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[lightgiver]

...and goes and people realise that it was a bit of a damp squid with life going on, I wonder what the next significant date for phrophecy will be?

Should be a good year. London will host the Olympics and we will win most of the gold medals, I become European president, Mike Martin and Lightgiver become two of my "no" men, Scotland takes a further step forwards in its international prestige (well I will be European President after all), and Egypt will regain legal title of its national treasures abroad. (thats me just upset every museum in the world outside Egypt).

Seriously though, what will the consipracy sites be saying in Jan 2013?

Where will your whereabouts be Stewart come 2012 December?:) and anyone else come to think of it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1560388108644561405

Seek not abroad,turn back into thyself,for in the inner man or woman dwells the truth.

ST Augustine.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

I hear the Poor People of Egypt do not live in good conditions,yes maybe all the artefacts should be returned,and the profits made go towards helping the poor of Egypt,instead of going into the back pockets of corrupt politicians.

[cruise4]

The 2012 Olympics will be cancelled (thank God). The Milk Hill crop circle tells us this...

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill/articles.html

[stewart edwards]

Where will your whereabouts be Stewart come 2012 December?:)Who knows? Asassinated for being a pain in the behind.:eek: Probably preparing for Christmas. Will you be getting crowned Massonic Messiah then?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1560388108644561405Lightgiver I dont know about most people here but hour long videos are to much, I just dont have time.

Seek not abroad,turn back into thyself,for in the inner man or woman dwells the truth.

ST Augustine.
Knowing this lightgiver why are you so anti-mason? At least anti-esoteric mason. Are you a son of the widdow in the deepest esoteric sense? I am told there are plenty who have chosen not to involve themselves with the current masonic structures in our world. Cant imagine why.:D Sad really.

[triotec]

Absolute nothing is gonna happen on that date! How stupid can you get?

[stanas smene]

there is only one true prophet



This is all preparation (reptilians, illuminati, secret cabals, war, famine, pestilence.... ) for the unveiling.


If you believe and are as true as David Icke is, then we must prepare for his arrival, so be ready for AntiChrist, for he is at the door. His rule is not inevitable-it can be waived with faith, be warned though, his reach is long as is his shadow.


from the depths of despair within Pandemonium itself

Stanas :D

[lightgiver]

Who knows? Asassinated for being a pain in the behind.:eek: Probably preparing for Christmas. Will you be getting crowned Massonic Messiah then?

Lightgiver I dont know about most people here but hour long videos are to much, I just dont have time.

Knowing this lightgiver why are you so anti-mason? At least anti-esoteric mason. Are you a son of the widdow in the deepest esoteric sense? I am told there are plenty who have chosen not to involve themselves with the current masonic structures in our world. Cant imagine why.:D Sad really.

You do not have time :confused: there is no time,of course you have,it is advisable to watch,can you not do two things at once ;):D

I am not anti mason,what makes you think that.:)

Son of a widow?,must be in the blood.

“To be a star, you must shine your own light, follow your own path, and don't worry about the darkness, for that is when the stars shine brightest”

http://asonoflight.blogspot.com/2008/11/walt-june-cleaver-are-dead.html

FREEMASONRY AND THE ANCIENT WISDOM:

http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/oct06/THE%20ANCIENT%20WISDOM.htm

BTW,today I was given to a couple of good books to read,

Rosslyn guardian of the secrets of the holy grail and bloodline of the holy grail, from a lady from Inverness(Scotland) who lives near me here in France,and she is a Freemason.;)

Just had a flick through the Rosslyn book,Rosslyn(Saturn oracle) is the Crown Chakra,now that is interesting.

and this place, Folk etymology for the name "Compostela" is that it comes from the Latin "Campus Stellae" (i.e. Stars Field), is Europe's base Chakra.

The builders of these great cathedrals deliberately erected them on Druidic sites,dedicated to the planetary oracles,?now that is even more interesting.:D
http://books.google.fr/books?id=2X-fqVYhxfQC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=Compostela+base+chakra&source=bl&ots=d2otqvUBsx&sig=DqSJvteCCVxZ5AIno7HzgsS1wfg&hl=en&ei=AiBmSrrSOpyd_AaLkKVq&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

[stewart edwards]

Just teasing you lightgiver.

[lightgiver]

Just teasing you lightgiver.

"Each of the major cathedrals along the pilgrimage were on ancient sites representing the seven major chakras of Europe. 'Pilgrims' or 'initiates' went to each one in turn to learn the 'knowledge' associated with each chakra. This actually goes back to the time of the Druids. When I say went to each one in turn, that might mean several years of study at each one in order to master the widsom and insights for that level/degree of study.

The sites were:

Cathedral of St. James at Compostela (Moon Oracle) - base chakra
Notre-Dame de Dalbade Tolouse (Mercury Oracle) - sacral chakra
Orleans Cathedral (Venus Oracle) - solar pelxus chakra
Chartres Cathedral ( Sun Oracle) - heart chakra
Notre Dame de Paris (Mars Oracle) - throat chakra
Amiens Cathedral (Jupiter Oracle) - brow chakra
Rosslyn Chapel (Saturn Oracle) - crown chakra" (7,10)

http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/Kundalini.html

Kundalini, Kundalini-sakti [from kundalini circular, spiral + sakti power, force] The circular power; one of the mystic, recondite powers in the human constitution. It "is called the 'Serpentine' or the annular power on account of its spiral-like working or progress in the body of the ascetic developing the power in himself. It is an electric fiery occult or Fohatic power, the great pristine force, which underlies all organic and inorganic matter"; "it is Buddhi considered as an active instead of a passive principle (which it is generally, when regarded only as the vehicle, or casket of the Supreme Spirit Atma). It is an electro-spiritual force, a creative power which when aroused into action can as easily kill as it can create" (VS 77-8, 76-7). Kundalini works in and through the human auric egg on all levels: "In its higher aspect Kundalini is a power or force following winding or circular pathways carrying or conveying thought and force originating in the Higher Triad. Abstractly, in the case of man it is of course one of the fundamental energies or qualities of the Pranas. UNSKILLED or UNWISE attempts to interfere with its normal working in the human body may readily result in insanity or malignant or enfeebling disease"

The Earth is already in the Heavens. Haven't you noticed? We're the 3rd Rock from the Sun.:D

http://thehiddenlighthouse.blogspot.com/2008/10/bible-revelations-end-times-part-1.html

Humans are the ones who spoiled this beautiful Paradise. We are the ones who need to WAKE UP and realize that we're already in Heaven. We just have to clean up our act and clean up the Earth as well.

"But the kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

[lightgiver]

Just teasing you lightgiver.


Rosslyn chapel echoes to sound of Saturn

http://www.crystalinks.com/stuart07.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552874/The-Da-Vinci-chapel-echoes-to-sound-of-Saturn.html

http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/reviews/rosslyn.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCEAfkd8EAw

What about the father of Robert the Bruce?Leper or reptilian??http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret08.htm

The Templars restored their influence in France under the title of the Scots Guard in the mid 15th century. When Robert the Bruce was installed as the unchallenged king of Scotland, he signed a pact with Charles IV of France, renewing what was known as the ‘auld alliance’. This was no surprise, given that the bloodlines which controlled Scotland, including Bruce and the Sinclairs, came from France and Flanders.

The Freemasons are the Knights Templar and the Priory of Sion under another name and the Company of Jesus or Jesuits are based on the same structure as the Templars with the same goal. The Jesuits and the Knights of Malta are esoteric secret societies which hoard and use the secret knowledge while outwardly claiming to be Roman Catholic and ‘Christian’.

I suppose its not called the world wide web for nothing.;)

Yeah its good being a pain in the arse,and it keeps raining,may get sunny by the week end.

[lightgiver]

Absolute nothing is gonna happen on that date! How stupid can you get?

Its always better to keep an open mind as long as the brain does not fall out;)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72785

[stewart edwards]

Rosslyn chapel echoes to sound of SaturnLightgiver dont believe everything you read. When you talk to highly esoteric folk you will no doubt be told that Saturn was the energy behind the Natzi party. Now assuming that this is correct how can you possibily sensibly say that Scotland is built on the same energies? If there was any accuracy in your statement it would most likley be as a warning bell of danger approaching. Ring that bell lightgiver, ring that bell:D


What about the father of Robert the Bruce?Leper or reptilian??Human being I would guess.

This was no surprise, given that the bloodlines which controlled Scotland, including Bruce and the Sinclairs, came from France and Flanders.Search furtehr back and youmay find ancient Egyptian connections.


Yeah its good being a pain in the arseRemember Lighgiver in a world controlled by these "elites" you worry so much about, the fact that they havent swatted you would imply that you are somehow serving their agenda.:D:eek: We may see you being installed as massonic Messiah yet.;):eek:

[sosure]

lightgiver; i'm assuming you plan on the world ending dec 2012? hahaha :p:p

[ozpixie]

I cannot stand the Olympics but find it near to impossible to believe that it will be cancelled. There is too much money and too many corporate egos at stake.

[lightgiver]

Lightgiver dont believe everything you read. When you talk to highly esoteric folk you will no doubt be told that Saturn was the energy behind the Natzi party. Now assuming that this is correct how can you possibily sensibly say that Scotland is built on the same energies? If there was any accuracy in your statement it would most likley be as a warning bell of danger approaching. Ring that bell lightgiver, ring that bell:D


Human being I would guess.

Search furtehr back and youmay find ancient Egyptian connections.


Remember Lighgiver in a world controlled by these "elites" you worry so much about, the fact that they havent swatted you would imply that you are somehow serving their agenda.:D:eek: We may see you being installed as massonic Messiah yet.;):eek:


Stewart ,
why do you not just come out with what you know,
it would make life a lot easier:p:D

I care not for Nazis they are a bunch of murdering evil thugs.

Why would the Elites want to swat me:confused:,I am not serving their agenda at all,you may think that but I know differently,it may appear that way,but believe you me it is not.

I am well aware of the Egyptian connection and further back also.

and I know of the 7th degree also,the Father of the grail and its connected to Rosslyn.

maybe you are one of the illuminati,in fact I feel you are.

Who will come to the aid of the son of a widow?

well I reckon the Saturn oracle is Rosslyn(the crown chakra)

Rosslyn chapel the Omphalos.:)

Ring the Bell for sure,

The Mark of the Beast

http://books.google.fr/books?id=m_9BpKolddYC&dq=Mark+of+the+Beast+ravenscroft&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=scyhAdRyq3&sig=3-UkjXE4kfkFGDamUYI_Y4cfEoQ&hl=en&ei=fllnSq6PKML-_Abb7e1d&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

[lightgiver]

lightgiver; i'm assuming you plan on the world ending dec 2012? hahaha :p:p

It depends what YOU define as the end of the World.

As above so below.:p:p

I have already foreseen(planetary alignment) it and the sun falling out of the sky or space.:p I kid you not.

OVERLORDS OF CHAOS: SATURN and 2015: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=104986

The Nature of Virgo and Spica

Nisbet also makes this revealing observation in the same Atlantis Rising article:

Earl William knew that even a book “carved in stone” could be pounded to dust, so he wrote his testament on the inviolable daytime sky, and hid it in the light. In "Rosslyn: Guardian of the Secrets of the Holy Grail", by Tim Wallace-Murphy & Marilyn Hopkins, the au-thors claim that the site had been “re-vered by the Druids as the oracle of Saturn, the supreme Guardian of Secrets.” According to my research, it seems they are right. When Rosslyn was dedicated on September 21, 1450, the sun had risen exactly due east. Throughout the day, behind the sun and in exact alignment with the earth lay the planets Saturn and Neptune, a conjunction that occurs only once every 36 years. And they all rose invisibly in the light of day within the constellation Virgo, symbolic of various goddesses found in diverse astrological traditions.

The Green Man has a special meaning today. After centuries of man’s exploitation of nature for his own benefit, as if mankind is the only creature that counts, we are now beginning to realise how dependent we are upon the natural world, that we are part and parcel of the whole of G-d’s creation, and therefore must learn to work in co-operation with it. The Green Man, especially in his strange structure blending the human form and vegetation, can be taken to symbolise the unity of mankind with the natural world. Perhaps it is not surprising that he should have a place in Christian Churches of all types for when they were built mankind was much closer to nature than we are, at least in the industrialised western world.

Given that we now know for certain that Rosslyn Chapel was built by the St Clair family specifically as a Christian edifice it seems clear that the Green Men within the chapel were, by 1446, no longer pagan but had been adopted as a Christian symbol.

People really need to start waking up and stop raping the planet or you will get bitten hard on the behind.

Every single person is responsible,no excuses, would you treat heaven in the same way????????? LG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIl9E7GM3VI

This video reveals the identity of the large KEY given to the Rosslyn girl. "Eliakim" of the biblical book of Isaiah connects to Rosslyn through ancient prophecy inspired by Merlin, the Holy Ghost. The green man and "Eliakim's" large KEY are one and the same thing. The green man is one of those mysterious carvings in the Rosslyn Chapel. He shows up in different cultures and legends. There are 110 green-man faces total with the old faces in the west, and growing younger toward the east end. The green man is called such because he has a green twig in his mouth. Find out who he represents, and what the twig symbolizes.

http://www.edkohout.com/mundane/rosslyn-01.html

[stewart edwards]

Stewart ,
why do you not just come out with what you know,
it would make life a lot easier:p:DI do. Encouraging thought helps others grow. Has it occured to you lightgiver that I may actually know very little? Remember I am outside of the lodges.

I am well aware of the Egyptian connection and further back also.I cant get further back than ancient Egypt. Apparently I have to awaken my orkadian energies to see further back. Unless of course you are simply talking about reading things in a book - and you know what they say about who writes history.

maybe you are one of the illuminati,maybe.

in fact I feel you are.Why?

Who will come to the aid of the son of a widow?The last time I heard something similar to that was in a business meeting. The poor chap looked terribly embarrised as I looked at him as if he was... well... unbalanced.

[stewart edwards]

Why did he look terribly embarrassed?
and you say maybe you are Illuminati,are you are are you not?

What do you define as Illuminati?Come on lightgiver, play fair, I asked you the question, dont deflect it with another, or are you training to be a politician?

Anyhow I have told you before many times that I am not and have never been initiated into any masonic or esoteric society, and this includes illuminati groups. As I have also said before here you may see me in photos with people in chains and aprons but I was but a guest at those occassions. The closest I got was being rejected by an ugle lodge six or so years ago now.

So stop being a politician, you expect me to answer your questions, so answer mine.

[stewart edwards]

What question exactly,and what's the Swatting fly comment related to.

I thought it was me who asked the question,and NO I am not fond of politicians and never ever want to be one.Have a look back up 4 posts lightgiver, my question is there which you ignored.

And yet again you are asking a further question without answering mine - anyhow the swatting was merely a contextual comment.

Take a deep breath lightgiver and please answer my question. I am genuinely interested.

[stewart edwards]

The why part,because its just a feeling I get.Should I be complimented or worried?:eek:

[stewart edwards]

Neither :D
So what are you thoughts on Rosslyn and 2012?My thoughts on Rosslyn you already know from recent posts. My thoughts on 2012 again you already know for teh same reason. My thoughts on Rosslyn and 2012 are that I dont have any thoughts about Rosslyn and 2012.

What are yours?

[stewart edwards]

NO Stewart I do not know your thoughts on Rosslyn and all the symbolism.:confused:

Could you show me your post explaining this?Lightgiver, be honest you are a politician:mad: You never asked about my thoughts on the symbolism just about Rosslyn.

Anyhow to keep you happy, having visited Rosslyn several times over several years I can tell you, as I have done above, that while I have felt evil outwith its walls I have never done so within. Out of all of the symbolism there it is the "masonic pillars" and the crypt that intrigue me/comfort me the most. I wouldnt be suprised if I was there in a previous life.

Yes there is a lot of symbolism there but I do think that far to much is made from it. I use symbols all the time, take my avatar as a good example. I dont fear the symbolism of Rosslyn nor am I worried by it. In fact I take a lot of comfort from it.

So Rosslyn at one time may have been a centre of excellence in our world, and in many ways it still is. It is like a home from home for me. It certainly is not a bad place, as you will find out yourself when you visit it.

[stewart edwards]

Lightgiver, what are your thoughts on the symbolism of Rosslyn and any connection with 2012?

[stewart edwards]

you do not often answer questions directly.Cite one specific example.

Its just in previous posts you have mentioned Holy Blood and Holy grail and the like,so you obviously have some kind of deep interest,especially about the chakras and the like,Bit of an assumption there.

you know what I am on about,Lightgiver I am not a mind reader.

you are just giving me the run around.Tosh. I have always been honest and straight with you. Except for the occassional little tease/banter you cite just one example where I have done as you claim. Just one. You wont find any.

[stewart edwards]

Unless you want me to cite nearly all the posts,then its going to be diffi cult .:confused:

You or always testing and giving the run around,ask some fellow forum members,IE BOOTS.Boots what is your honest opinion of this?

and you have still not answered the question I asked previously,this post is 1 example.Where????????????

Lightgiver I am very sad to see you act this way.

[stewart edwards]

check post 46,I am going to delete my previous post with no info on,takes to much space up.:) thought I would let you know,after you have answered the question.

sad to see what way:confused: I am just asking for information.Lightgiver you asked no question in your post 46, which I in any case answered in post 47.

Anyhow I am of to bed, I am sorry lightgiver but tonight you have saddened me. You may find that instead of answering every single question that you have ever asked me (go on find one specific example where I havent) that I now choose not to answer some or any of your questions. And it wont be because I have anything to hind, it is because of your actions on this forum tonight. It is truly a pity.

[lightgiver]

Lightgiver you asked no question in your post 46, which I in any case answered in post 47.

Anyhow I am of to bed, I am sorry lightgiver but tonight you have saddened me. You may find that instead of answering every single question that you have ever asked me (go on find one specific example where I havent) that I now choose not to answer some or any of your questions. And it wont be because I have anything to hind, it is because of your actions on this forum tonight. It is truly a pity.

Stewart I think you are imaging things,that saddens me.

I did not say you do not answer ,I sated you do not exactly give straight answers,which I have noticed from Most of the masons,not really hard to see,and that reminds me of politicians.

BTW I have deleted my previous posts without information on,nothing personnel.(walks on egg shells)

[lightgiver]

Not saying this link is factual,but why we are on the subject of 2012 and messiahs I thought it may be relevant to the thread.

http://www.grailcode.net/

Two Royal Families in Great Britain have claimed of them to be descendants of the Royal House of David, a Bloodline which supposedly produced many of the ruling Houses of Europe today, including the British Monarchy and current ruling House of Windsor. The other family important to this lineage is the Scottish House of Stuart (Spencer), whose most infamous descendant was the late Princess Diana. While there is discrepancy as to whether or not the Windsor claims to the Throne of England are legitimate (being descendants of the Germanic House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha), most agree that the Stuart lineage are not only the rightful heirs to the Throne of England (and Scotland), yet also to the Throne of David, and Israel itself. In light of this, it was therefore of paramount importance that the Windsor's seek out a 'Virgin' of the Merovingian Bloodline to marry into, in effect, to finally legitimize their long held Occult power and authority claimed of them being descendants of Crusader Godfrey de Bouillon, who was given the honor of the Kingdom and declared "King of Jerusalem" in 1099, as well as creating what they see would be a unique Christ descendant from such a union of their draconic lineages that would forever legitimize their tight grasp on the British Monarchy. Therefore this intriguing and most infamous of arranged marriages between Charles and Grail Princess Diana was not hatched solely by the Windsor's themselves, it was of far more ancient design and connected to the Knights Templar. Interestingly enough, six months after the Royal Wedding, while Diana was already three months pregnant, came the release of Holy Blood Holy Grail in which the three authors made the shocking claim of the secret of the Knights Templar. This 'secret' being propagated to the world in 1982 contained the genealogical record of the Davidic Bloodline passing thru Christ and His descendants to became the Frankish Merovingian Kings, a secret which curiously became the foundation for the modern Occult itself, connected to their prophecy about the birth of a future Antichrist figure.

The fact that this information is becoming known and falsely touted as the Bloodline of Christ to this generation indicates the time of the Merovingian Antichrist revealing is near.????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYqIJfavp-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5MS5Odp2qQ

No sound on 2nd video but never the less still worth a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ-1KMqPEfI

Who really knows what is planned behind closed and secretive doors?

[vetis]

What about the father of Robert the Bruce?Leper or reptilian??

Please, dont confuse that Hollywood tripe with history. Really. Its just annoying.

[lightgiver]

What about the father of Robert the Bruce?Leper or reptilian??

Please, dont confuse that Hollywood tripe with history. Really. Its just annoying.

Bruce was cursed by a skin disease which, today, historians believe was psoriasis or the like, but which for centuries was believed to be leprosy. Bruce himself believed it to be that dread disease,and he felt that it was a punishment for his involvement in the death of John Comyn on a sacred altar.

Owch

http://www.northantrim.com/RoberttheBruce.htm

Matt 10:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_50plt0t_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-s3zSBRevA

Best to cover all corners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphrates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vbdSw_8Tk

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/jupiter-hit-comet-witnessed-astronomer-anthony-wesley

Jupiter was hit by a comet or asteroid whose impact blast was up to half the size of Earth.

I wonder How Iron mountain is shaping up?

You never know all the elites tucked away inside,lets hopi nothing hits it.

[realfake]

I have already foreseen(planetary alignment) it and the sun falling out of the sky or space.:p I kid you not. I thought i was the only 'crazy' seeing this :D My own research has led me to a similar conclusion. This event will herald the demise of our Sun and the birth of a star child.. Lucifer?

http://usera.ImageCave.com/realfake/mourn_the_sun.jpg

[lady_oblivion]

slightly ot but that is one amazing picture and has now become my desktop lol. Also what event might that be?

[netta]

I am not worried about 2012 either. Or at least it doesn't bother me in a negative manner. I am curious to see what will happen.

[lightgiver]

I am not worried about 2012 either. Or at least it doesn't bother me in a negative manner. I am curious to see what will happen.

I reckon rejoicing may be a better term,definitely nothing to worry about,but it best to keep all corners covered,just in case;)


If the shit was to hit the fan,TPTB will not let us know that's for sure.

http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/net1/1.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2039701.stm

I know the blasphemy of them which CLAIM to be Jews (Bloodline of Judah)
and are NOT. They are the Synogogue of Satan, and do LIE

Revelation Chapters 2:9 and 3:9

Charge some that they teach no other doctrine, neither give heed to legends and endless genealogies,
which minister questions. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their
own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, and they shall turn away their ears from the Truth,
and instead shall be turned unto legends. 1Timothy 1:3-4 and 2Timothy 4:3-4

GARDNER goes on to state this same Scottish-Celt, Arthurian-Christ Bloodline has also been traced to Scotland's Royal House of Stewart, and you have heard of them, as their most famous offspring was the late Princess Diana. More than this shocking revelation is the subliminal implication Gardner is really trying to get across -- that Diana has left us with her firstborn son, a child having what amounts to the "Holy Bloodline of the Messiah," or so it would seem. He also details the history and why the current powers of Europe believe in the power of the Grail, mysteries of Atlantis, as well as other subjects in more alignment with Europe's secret societies. Parallel to this, certain facts are surfacing attempting to expose the secretive occult factions behind British Government ("Babylon"-London) and it's intelligence agencies whose end goal is the creation of a British-led Anglo-Empire uniting the world in 'peace' while bringing forth an Arthurian figure at the forefront to lead it. We aren't directly told who this future King might be, yet the occult is preparing their ranks for a young and charismatic King who carries "truth" and what's best in man, a leader not unlike either Kennedy or Lincoln. A King who carries the Merovingian Grail of blood and will be seen as Arthur returned.


Now you tell me,what is going on?? http://educate-yourself.org/cn/laurencegardnershapeshifter.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0sIxiHUSJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUFXbAPVNw

Food for thought.

The Stargate Conspiracy (1999) is nothing less than the revelation of the intricate relationship between the gods of ancient Egypt, New Age prophets, channelling cults and serious para psychological researchers - all presided over like puppet masters by the west's intelligence agencies.

Are the ancient gods - or perhaps superior life-forms from space - really returning? Have they already made contact through chosen mediums, channellers and leaders of cults? Or is that what certain cynical manipulators want us to believe? In a bizarre and murky world where reality and belief are compelled to collide by those coldly orchestrating the plan, miracles apparently occur and the promised revelation of secrets is endless.

Stripping away layer upon layer of New Age and occult associations - including the Egyptian visions of ritual magician Aleister Crowley - Lynn and Clive reveal the incredible story of a 50-year-old plot to hijack the belief system of the West.

The Millennium may have come and gone, but the plot goes on.

http://www.picknettprince.com/books/stargateconspiracy/stargate.htm

The Stargate Conspiracy: The Truth about Extraterrestrial life and the Mysteries of Ancient Egypt

In recent years, alternative historians have gained remarkable insight into the mysteries of ancient Egypt-but according to Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, their discoveries tie into a dangerous conspiracy nearly fifty years in the making.

At the centre of this conspiracy is a group of respected, powerful individuals who believe that the ancient Egyptian gods are real extraterrestrials who will soon return to earth. The conspirators have intimate and exclusive knowledge of this momentous second coming-but they insist on keeping it to themselves. In this riveting, well-researched book, Picknett and Price reveal what this conspiracy means for the rest of mankind-and expose the insidious motivations of the individuals and organizations behind it...

http://www.amazon.com/Stargate-Conspiracy-Extraterrestrial-Mysteries-Ancient/dp/0425176584

We must be as wise as serpents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD25S5lWCzo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rzK-cgwjA

[stewart edwards]

the current powers of Europe believe in the power of the Grail, I should hope that they do for the grail is findable for anyone who seeks the light with a true heart. I have explained upteen times over the years how to find the grail. It really is not that difficult. If I, an awkward bloke form a deprived family can do it anyone can.

the secretive occult factions behind British Government ("Babylon"-London) and it's intelligence agencies whose end goal is the creation of a British-led Anglo-EmpireAh the romance of mystery. Would make a good episode of spooks (tv series about the British secret service - filmed at the HQ of ugle:eek:). Anyhow most nations seek influence in the world. Just as most people seem influence in their lives. It is a natural state of being.

uniting the world in 'peace'Cant imagine how this could be a bad thing.


while bringing forth an Arthurian figure at the forefront to lead it. We aren't directly told who this future King might be, yet the occult is preparing their ranks for a young and charismatic King who carries "truth" and what's best in man, a leader not unlike either Kennedy or Lincoln. A King who carries the Merovingian Grail of blood and will be seen as Arthur returned.I rather suspect that who ever such a person may be it would be someone who has removed the sword from the stone. I also dont think that it will be someone who is all that young in the conventional sense for a certain amount of life experience would be necessary to gain the necessary perspectives to lead in a way that would return maat to this planet. I bet you that he or she is looking at all of the caffuffle about them in the conspiracy world and quietly smiling while shaking their head.

In this regard I quite likes a comment made in the film of the Da Vinchi Code where the said lovely messiah was told I think just before she realised who she was that the conundrum was that the messiah woudl reveal themselves but equally the messiah would have no idea that they were the messiah. Made me smile for its simplistic beauty and necessity, for to be effective in the role you would have to have worked through it all yourself.

I still cant see how someone who will return balance, harmony, maat, to this planet is a bad person that people fear. Ok I can understand how those controlled by darker forces may fear it, but for those truly in the light it is utter nonsense to fear such a thing.

[lightgiver]

Hi Stewart,:)

Hope you are well,yes the forth coming years should be interesting.;)

What are your thoughts on this link,? http://www.his-forever.com/adherents_of_all_three_monotheistic_faiths.htm

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1516.cfm

The Kabala is the keystone of all Western occult thought and practice today, and is the cornerstone of belief for all Illumined Ones [Masters of the Illuminati] throughout the world.

Hey stewart,

If one does swat a fly,make sure its not with an angry mind.

[skunksmash]

Phil Schneider stated 2030 would be the ''end of days'' for the general populous....

im starting to believe 2012 will be used as an engine to push a massive ''false flag'' incident, there's probably not going to be alien arrival or disclosure..... & certainly no tidal waves...:rolleyes: (unless Nibiru decides to rear its mythical head), TPTB will no doubt stage something elaborate for us..... hopefully it wont cost too many lives this time.



:)SK

[stewart edwards]

What are your thoughts on this link,? http://www.his-forever.com/adherents_of_all_three_monotheistic_faiths.htm

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1516.cfmI laughed. Think about it, conspiracy sites are saying that this antichrist will be able to convince every religion of his bona fides yet all of these Cardinals, bishops, rabbi etc are all somehow fooled. All these people in communion with God fooled. Just doesnt stack up.

You can find God within yourself by the way, for God created everything including you, hence the divine spark resides with you lightgiver. If you can find that spark and give it room to breathe you can get very close to god. The only way this could not be the case would be if God did not create all. Think about it.

But be careful for darkness is a powerful immitator.

[lightgiver]

I laughed. Think about it, conspiracy sites are saying that this antichrist will be able to convince every religion of his bona fides yet all of these Cardinals, bishops, rabbi etc are all somehow fooled. All these people in communion with God fooled. Just doesnt stack up.

You can find God within yourself by the way, for God created everything including you, hence the divine spark resides with you lightgiver. If you can find that spark and give it room to breathe you can get very close to god. The only way this could not be the case would be if God did not create all. Think about it.

But be careful for darkness is a powerful immitator.

Just as I thought;):)I always like to hear other peoples thoughts on these subjects.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73451

do you ever visit other parts of the forum Stewart?

[lightgiver]

Sterwart I have looked at post 41 to 43 :confused: on assumptions.

What am I supposed to be looking at?

On the holy grail issue Stewart, check post 25,seeing you mentioned it.http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50083&page=3

I know what the holy Grail is BTW.

No assumptions there Stewart;)

and I know the Vatican and church are frauds,and I know some true masons are being given a bad name through False propaganda ,no doubt by the Vatican forces of Evil,who are spreading dis honest info once again like they did all those hundred s of years ago,some things never change.

[stewart edwards]

Lightgiver you asked no question in your post 46, which I in any case answered in post 47.

Anyhow I am of to bed, I am sorry lightgiver but tonight you have saddened me. You may find that instead of answering every single question that you have ever asked me (go on find one specific example where I havent) that I now choose not to answer some or any of your questions. And it wont be because I have anything to hind, it is because of your actions on this forum tonight. It is truly a pity.:eek:

[lightgiver]

:eek:


you are a pity Stewart ;because you keep repeating with false accusations.

you can dance you can jive;get into the swing of things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGX4zGrdtfk anybody could be that guy :D

I know you are hovering .:eek::D Oh BTW a lot of good people can come from deprived backgrounds more so than privileged backgrounds.

Yes they teach about the MEROVINGIANs in French schools according to a French friend of mine,who loves honey.:D

and I know about the Grail.

http://www.crystalinks.com/merovingian.html

7th pineal/crown Saturn Rosslyn (King of the Grail)

If anyone just googles this,Rosslyn, the grail and the 7th chakra.

It all out there.:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74335

The Merovingians maintained that they were of a royal lineage that antedated the Roman Catholic Church, and there fore did not need to be coronated by the church.

It will be recalled that Napoleon also saw fit to remove the crown from the Bishop's hands and place it on his own head, thus showing that he, like the Merovingians, did not need the recognition of the Roman Catholic Church.

I told this tale to a person of Irish descent who found it most illuminating.

To the Merovingians, the bee was a most hallowed creature. A sacred emblem of Egyptian royalty,http://beelore.com/2007/12/23/the-merovingian-bee/it became a symbol of Wisdom.

The Merovingian bee was adopted by the exiled Stuarts in Europe, and engraved bees are still to be seen on some Jacobite glassware.

and the British royal family are imposters also.

Revealed: the inbreeding that ruined the Hapsburgs http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-the-inbreeding-that-ruined-the-hapsburgs-1668857.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_intermarriage

TBH How come all this royalty assume they are Royalty?:confused:;)

ah well its truly a pity we have crazy people running the world.:eek:

now that's what I call deluded.Speaking of actions and effects;and you know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AwPzKhr9BY

What is it!
What is the reason?
but
Soon
the why and the reason are gone
and
all
what matters
is the feeling it self.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxPGnAwKFiU Oh Yeah.:D

Cause and effect
chain of values
keys to unveil reality
The trinity and duality
Power and service

Samsaras Pleasures are deceptive,brings no contentment only torment,this one reminds me of GS;with his love of fine wine and octopussy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IN5uoKQVHA
after all we live in the desire realm.

I like to post interesting threads;beats boring ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpr_QhY7h4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1NdVL74LEQ

People tread carefully:Yes I feel very sad at the lies and destruction in this world;and the lies and hate of some on here.

"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
~ Buddha

Neo's Passport in the Matrix Expired on 9/11/2001. ... and discovering we're sitting in a liquid filled pod connected by dozens of attachments to our body.

NEXT:Planned for centuries and failed in one foul swoop.I can bet some one is stomping and Hissing sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss:

6 videos posted,if they do not stick just quote the post.

[stewart edwards]

you are a pity Stewart ;because you keep repeating with false accusations.Name one. Just one.

[stewart edwards]

.

[lightgiver]

Name one. Just one.

Post 58,

You are being a drama queen,

I will stand up to tyranny and hate,because if no one does then what's next, off to the camps like docile sheep,

and you attacked me quite a while ago with a PM remember or is your memory to short.You are not perfect Stewart and neither am I,not yet anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grby3KIEwCw

Enjoy the vid.

[stewart edwards]

Post 58,That was answering your direct question.

and you attacked me quite a while ago with a PM remember or is your memory to short.I said Treat me like an idiot. What are you looking for me to say? I am a bloke, a Scotsman called Stewart Edwards. Quite a simple man really. What exactly are you looking for? Please spell it out for me, for you are beginning to sound like ban Freemaosons in this regard.

[lightgiver]

That was answering your direct question.

I said

I give up,see ya,:)

Oh BTW any links to show who you are? and any more info on 2012,I aint getting drawn into any more tit for tat.

speaking of Bairns Playgrounds.

see ya later:)

[storm knight]

I find it amusing that so many people want something bad to happen always predicting the end of the world and the sheep which simply follow. This world is a glorious and wonderful thing. Yes there are members of the human race which are mist dispicable but the vast majority of us are not. We should celebrate our resilience instead of wanting something to wipe us out,

What i do hope is that the human race will devolop to be more concioussly aware and more understanding and tollerent of each other, rather then bicker and fight and cause pain and suffering.

We dont have a lot for one another really, we're devided and some people are so stuck within there own pardigms its almost saddening.

SOrry mini rant over. What can i say i'm a free thinker and a free sprit.
Ahm then you don't really know how bad we've got it in for then do you?
I don't think people really are predicting, theres alot of strong evidence out there. You have to build the bigger picture.
Reading about fluride makes me think developing conciously will not happy.

:D Your right and your what makes discussions great.

[hirschfelder]

For every thread about something happening in 2012, there's about 20 corresponding threads about how nothing will happen

I've seen far more articles, blogs and internet posts about nothing happening than I have something happening

I'll tell you what will happen Dec 13 2012. This.

I predict that I'll be steering well clear of any internet site like this because I just KNOW they will be clogged to fuck with pompous arse-giblets literally celebrating because they predicted David cocking Wilcock can't predict the future. Whoopie fucking dooo

There's a prediction for ya

[mind1universe]

I keep saying it and I'm sick of saying it.


2012 will come like any year, but you WERE GIVEN A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to CHANGE for the new timeline that HAS ALREADY BEGUN.


All you have to do is fucking wake up. And learn to take responsilibility for what you create. For 12,500 years you were given a reality to live by. Now that is falling apart. It is a time of make or break.


It's your choice what you do. If you make the decision to ignore it, fine, but it still doesn't change the fact that the time has come and went. Evolution happens whether your here or not. Your here because your higher power knows why your here, the sad part is most people on this planet don't know why they are here.


Please respect what the ancients are telling you and stop living in a delusion that everyday stays the same because it doesn't. Time holds cycles and people need to get their heads around that.

[lightgiver]

you are a pity Stewart ;because you keep repeating with false accusations.

you can dance you can jive;get into the swing of things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGX4zGrdtfk anybody could be that guy :D

I know you are hovering .:eek::D Oh BTW a lot of good people can come from deprived backgrounds more so than privileged backgrounds.

Yes they teach about the MEROVINGIANs in French schools according to a French friend of mine,who loves honey.:D

and I know about the Grail.

http://www.crystalinks.com/merovingian.html

7th pineal/crown Saturn Rosslyn (King of the Grail)

If anyone just googles this,Rosslyn, the grail and the 7th chakra.

It all out there.:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74335

The Merovingians maintained that they were of a royal lineage that antedated the Roman Catholic Church, and there fore did not need to be coronated by the church.

It will be recalled that Napoleon also saw fit to remove the crown from the Bishop's hands and place it on his own head, thus showing that he, like the Merovingians, did not need the recognition of the Roman Catholic Church.

I told this tale to a person of Irish descent who found it most illuminating.

To the Merovingians, the bee was a most hallowed creature. A sacred emblem of Egyptian royalty,http://beelore.com/2007/12/23/the-merovingian-bee/it became a symbol of Wisdom.

The Merovingian bee was adopted by the exiled Stuarts in Europe, and engraved bees are still to be seen on some Jacobite glassware.

and the British royal family are imposters also.

Revealed: the inbreeding that ruined the Hapsburgs http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-the-inbreeding-that-ruined-the-hapsburgs-1668857.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_intermarriage

TBH How come all this royalty assume they are Royalty?:confused:;)

ah well its truly a pity we have crazy people running the world.:eek:

now that's what I call deluded.Speaking of actions and effects;and you know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AwPzKhr9BY

What is it!
What is the reason?
but
Soon
the why and the reason are gone
and
all
what matters
is the feeling it self.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxPGnAwKFiU Oh Yeah.:D

Cause and effect
chain of values
keys to unveil reality
The trinity and duality
Power and service

Samsaras Pleasures are deceptive,brings no contentment only torment,this one reminds me of GS;with his love of fine wine and octopussy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IN5uoKQVHA
after all we live in the desire realm.

I like to post interesting threads;beats boring ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpr_QhY7h4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1NdVL74LEQ

People tread carefully:Yes I feel very sad at the lies and destruction in this world;and the lies and hate of some on here.

"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
~ Buddha

Neo's Passport in the Matrix Expired on 9/11/2001. ... and discovering we're sitting in a liquid filled pod connected by dozens of attachments to our body.

NEXT:Planned for centuries and failed in one foul swoop.I can bet some one is stomping and Hissing sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss:

6 videos posted,if they do not stick just quote the post.

Bump because someone or something keeps editing these vids off,and there is no way I am spending all this time doing posts to see half of them wiped off,because well you should know.

Yes 2012 will just come and go,the awakening as already begun,be it a very very very slow one,in fact by time the world wakes up it will 3012 at this rate,

and some of us will still be re incarnating back here probably discussing what we are discussing here now;) and the elite reptiles will still be screwing everyone.

[keystone]

Bump because someone or something keeps editing these vids off.Its not just you. I think its a gremlin in the forum software somewhere - maybe something to do with bandwidth - I dunno.

Anyway I_AM sorted out something like this for someone else earlier - can't remember exactly which thread. Ping a PM and perhaps your prob can be fixed too.

Cheers

[keystone]

and some of us will still be re incarnating back here probably discussing what we are discussing here now;)Groundhog Day.

Cheers

[lightgiver]

Groundhog Day.

Cheers

Absolutely:D it feels like that coming to this forum,in fact I sometimes wonder what I am doing here,maybe something is possessing me,I feel like its a duty to inform folk,the benefit of all our kind sentient being mothers,well some kind sentient being mothers,and all that :D

Hospice of Mother Tara Buddhist Meditation and Healing Centre:

http://www.hmt.org.au/why.htm

Animals in Buddhist doctrine

Animals have always been regarded in Buddhist thought as sentient beings, different in their intellectual ability than humans but no less capable of feeling suffering. Furthermore, animals possess Buddha nature (according to the Mahayana school) and therefore an equal potential to become enlightened. Moreover, the doctrine of rebirth held that any human could be reborn as an animal, and any animal could be reborn as a human. An animal might be a reborn dead relative, and if you looked far enough back in one's infinite series of lives, you would eventually perceive every animal to be related to you in some way. The Buddha expounded that sentient beings currently living in the animal realm have been our mothers, brothers, sisters, fathers, children, friends in past rebirths. One could not, therefore, make a hard distinction between moral rules applicable to animals and those applicable to humans; ultimately humans and animals were part of a single family. They are all interconnected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_Buddhism

I do not think I can keep this up until 2012:D

They always say the pen is mightier than the sword,;)

Good night Keystone :)

PS I am sure there are some good reppies as well.;)

[pegcityevolve]

There are just as many people who bash other people for having open minds as there are people who believe there will be a doomsday.

You don't know, OP, if anything will happen. I believe in no date or time, just where we are in the galaxy is what reflects what's going on in the solar system. And 2012, or maybe even 2011 October 28th, will be a peak of "cosmic energy" - resulting in the 100th monkey awakening.

2012 can be right now for all we know, look at all the people waking up. What gets people the motivation to wake others up? Perhaps new cosmic energy?

Just my thoughts.

[cruise4]

I wonder if planets can give birth. Tiamat needs a replacement.

[kasalt]

Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC1I)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC1I

[mind1universe]

It's what we do between now and 2012 that matters.


It's what makes time and of course the year 2012.

[triso]

Totally agree there, there's been lots of predictions that the year 2012 will be the end.. Wether the translation of 'end' has been confused or not is a different question. The Mayan's were the first i believe? I believe it was mentioned in the bible but didn't it say 7 years tribulation? So will it be 2019? And obviously Nostradamus who's predictions have been very accurate, he also said the bubonic plague will return in 2063 or so.. So maybe it isn't the end of Earth.. maybe the end of Western civillisation? Who knows.