A strategy of peaceful non-compliance?

[myeika]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

[myeika]

Bump

[Anders Lindman]

If they for example will announce making some vaccinations mandatory, we could create a viral campaign on the Web against the announcement. If successful, such campaign can spread like a wildfire.

[fairyelfdog]

What if they make that announcement just as the vaccinations are about to start? Shouldn't you (possibly we) let the police know right now that we will not accept being forced. Write to them and call them...

[soothseeker]

This is incredibly important and deserves all of our attention.

Can I suggest making this thread sticky as well.

I'm at a loss of how to combat this apart from increasing people's awareness and some how opting out of the monetary system without harming ourselves in the process. It could be quite easy to score an own goal if we're not careful (sorry for the negativity).

If we can decide on a definite method that works it would be very important for everyone to sing from same sheet of music, so to speak.

Something that has always stayed with me was a poster displayed in the time out and detention room where I went to school. It simply said:

“If we all work together we can totally disrupt the system”

I think I spent more time in that room then any other (The school just couldn't handle me pointing out the errors of their ways).

[myeika]

Thanks all for your replies...

I agree this is so important.

We should all be able to in some way help each other, if/when needed!

[fairyelfdog]

Bump. This thread should be made a sticky.

[spiritist]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

[fairyelfdog]

All very good points, spiritist but this is in direct relation to forced vaccination.

[wake_up_bomb]

I have a theory about this. Out of all the issues that we face - eg. false flag terrorism, phoney financial system, the fraudulent political system, climate change, plus too many others to mention - this is the one issue where everyone can see it coming now, where everyone is aware of what is going on, and where people have not been conditioned by propaganda. It can be tough to turn people's perception around on subjects like politics, mainstream media and money, because we're conditioned from the moment we come into being to accept these things. They haven't had the chance to do this with swine flu vaccinations, although making kids take vaccinations at a young age will have had some effect.

But the only fact that has been established in people's minds is the fact that there is a swine flu. If you just speak to people about the other facts, and keep repeating them, you have a good chance of getting through to their conscious mind. Tell them how many people have died from this, and how many more people die annually of regular influenza. Tell them about how doctors are being told to diagnose virtually anything as swine flu. Tell them what happened with the 1976 swine flu. Tell them that Baxter's are developing the vaccine, and that they previously distributed vaccine with avian flu in. Ask them if they're happy having something injected direct into their bloodstream which has been rushed through clinical tests, has been developed by a company that made a disastrous 'error' very recently, and that is composed of, well, no-one knows. This is just some suggested information, I'm sure you can all think of other points.

If we all do this in our daily life with friends, family, colleagues, just people we meet on a daily basis, then we are going to reach a lot of people, a much higher percentage than on many other topics of equal importance. I really think word of mouth can make a significant difference on this issue. I have already got through to a few people, much more easily than on other topics, and I would encourage you all to do the same. There is already a significant reaction against this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/london-times-censors-mass-opposition-to-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccine.html

And it has dawned on me recently that this issue is going to require direct action, that we're not going to be allowed to cruise along like a beachball on the ocean any longer.

[armoured_amazon]

Bump. This thread should be made a sticky.

+1

[myeika]

And it has dawned on me recently that this issue is going to require direct action, that we're not going to be allowed to cruise along like a beachball on the ocean any longer.

Exactly wake_up_bomb!

Can this be stickied please?

[anthony65]

And don't forget that police, nurses, doctors, soldiers, civil servants are at the top of the vaccination list.

They are going to suffer too.

Just as they did in the past, Gulf War Syndrome, for example, or the tetra radio system for the police.

They should be made aware that they too are being conned and poisoned.

And not for the first time.

[yozhik]

Always use cash.
Don't eat crap food.
Withdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.


Probably the easiest and most important steps to take!

Keep cash alive ... reject all and every attempt to move to a total electronic system.
This is incredibly important.
Where possible, negotiate terms for payment in other forms of "payment" other than paper promissory notes; i.e. trade and barter.

Take all cash from the banking system.
Do not "feed" the corruption.
Exclude the middle man.
Negotiate human to human.
When you remove the banks, you remove the devil.

Avoid ALL crap food (i.e. GMO toxins)
If you don't provide custom, they have nothing to feed on.

The system relies on you using it to feed it.

[myeika]

Hi yozhik,

These are all good points, but, if you havent seen the Newsletter, I am not sure if you realise that we are talking about 'Inforced' swinflu vaccinations here!

There will be many that need our support and help with this, so we really do need to start working out a strategy of peaceful non-compliance for us all!

[fairyelfdog]

I just wrote the one mainstream journalists in Sweden whom I think may be a real one. She spoke up against the global warming theory. She may be interested since she sees herself as a rebel. I gave her the link to Jane Bürgermeisters body of evidence among others. I do hope she listens. My next step is to look at the small papers, the papers that have been criticising cell phone masts and gmo foods and send these sources to them. Maybe you can look for these people/papers in your country and share this info too?

[godspeed]

well i was going just make a banner saying " say no to the vaccine " with some web-site contacts for information....and put it right outside my local health care centre....under the cover of darkness...just the way they do things......:D

[gilly]

well i was going just make a banner saying " say no to the vaccine " with some web-site contacts for information....and put it right outside my local health care centre....under the cover of darkness...just the way they do things......:D

Just look out for CCTV's though!

[itsallinus]

Just look out for CCTV's though!

You might want to put a sticker on the cctv so the cops can have a close up read:D

[whitenight639]

hmmm how to fuck up the system without getting anyone hurt is a hard one.

heres where my thought process went,

we could all book lots of doctors appointments under fake names.. but thats a very bad idea!

we could all park our cars in the middle of main roads and block them off,
still a bad idea.

we could all not go to work, one of the better ideas still not great unless we can stop ourselfs getting fired by creating some kind of union.

we could all make as many banking transactions as possible in a small timeframe and try crash there servers (theres not enuf of us on here to even make a dent tho, and when it comes to finances they have load balencing and bacup server farms).

we could all report the crime of genocide by baxter and alike to local police stations, swamping them and maybe waking sum bobbys up.



i dunno there must be something better i havnt thought of.

[judy101]

hmmm how to fuck up the system without getting anyone hurt is a hard one.

heres where my thought process went,

we could all book lots of doctors appointments under fake names.. but thats a very bad idea!

we could all park our cars in the middle of main roads and block them off,
still a bad idea.

we could all not go to work, one of the better ideas still not great unless we can stop ourselfs getting fired by creating some kind of union.

we could all make as many banking transactions as possible in a small timeframe and try crash there servers (theres not enuf of us on here to even make a dent tho, and when it comes to finances they have load balencing and bacup server farms).

we could all report the crime of genocide by baxter and alike to local police stations, swamping them and maybe waking sum bobbys up.



i dunno there must be something better i havnt thought of.


I've worked on that one for a very long time and I have come up with a solution. It's easy, it gets everyone attracting exactly what they want, it stops us from judging others, it transforms negative beliefs into positive one's that serve you better. It provides all the money the planet needs to fund new technology that benefits humanity and not distroys it, it improves communication and it's something that government can't control. The solution is water, very simple but for some odd reason nobody can understand how it works. It's scientific, more then enough science to back up why it works, it uses psychology to reprogram your brain - sort of like de-programming bullshit. It's almost as if we don't want peace, we don't want to solve problems.

When we are ready, it will happen. From the information I've gathered it will take about 2 years to shift the entire planet.

[whitenight639]

I've worked on that one for a very long time and I have come up with a solution. It's easy, it gets everyone attracting exactly what they want, it stops us from judging others, it transforms negative beliefs into positive one's that serve you better. It provides all the money the planet needs to fund new technology that benefits humanity and not distroys it, it improves communication and it's something that government can't control. The solution is water, very simple but for some odd reason nobody can understand how it works. It's scientific, more then enough science to back up why it works, it uses psychology to reprogram your brain - sort of like de-programming bullshit. It's almost as if we don't want peace, we don't want to solve problems.

When we are ready, it will happen. From the information I've gathered it will take about 2 years to shift the entire planet.


hmmmmmmm very intrigueing, i almost wrote on my previous post, poison water resovoirs with truth serum as a joke. would be interested to hear your plan.

[rashhead]

What did William Wallace do???

[judy101]

hmmmmmmm very intrigueing, i almost wrote on my previous post, poison water resovoirs with truth serum as a joke. would be interested to hear your plan.


water holds DNA (information)
Water is something every human on this planet requires.

We have been influenced by media which is controlling us like deaf, dumb and blind sheep - how? The process that was used to control us, can also be used to gain our own control back and nobody can stop it.

we think stuff will make us happy and we are starting to wake up to the reality that stuff wont' bring happiness BUT if we use this insanity thinking we can heard the planet into happiness without them even knowing it.

we dont' think in words we think in chemical experiences - the body needs to make a mixture of different peptides for us to experience that thought. Right now we are focused on everything that doesn't bring us happiness adn that is making a mixture of peptides that doesnt' feel all that good. Water can be used to help train our brains to create the peptides that do feel good - which will change our DNA (let me know if you don't understand that part)

it takes the brain 21 days to make shift in thinking, within 1 year you competely change your experience and within 2 years you're creating a completely new body (let me know if you don't understand that)

We also need to transform our problems into solutions - water can help you recognize the "unknown problem" which is the problem that comes from you but you THINK it comes from others and is completely out of your control. Recognizing that a problem is coming from you gives you power to solve.

are you with me on this part so far?

[jolinemaria]

If you want to take the route of healing through water check out Len Horowitz on this. He has been working on this for some time...
All water that I drink has been charged with the 528 frequency of love.
Gifting water in nature can be done with orgonite. Clearing up chemtrails can be done with orgonite as well.

Wherever there is a problem the solution is already present also. Just need to see it....

[fairyelfdog]

water holds DNA (information)
Water is something every human on this planet requires.

We have been influenced by media which is controlling us like deaf, dumb and blind sheep - how? The process that was used to control us, can also be used to gain our own control back and nobody can stop it.

we think stuff will make us happy and we are starting to wake up to the reality that stuff wont' bring happiness BUT if we use this insanity thinking we can heard the planet into happiness without them even knowing it.

we dont' think in words we think in chemical experiences - the body needs to make a mixture of different peptides for us to experience that thought. Right now we are focused on everything that doesn't bring us happiness adn that is making a mixture of peptides that doesnt' feel all that good. Water can be used to help train our brains to create the peptides that do feel good - which will change our DNA (let me know if you don't understand that part)

it takes the brain 21 days to make shift in thinking, within 1 year you competely change your experience and within 2 years you're creating a completely new body (let me know if you don't understand that)

We also need to transform our problems into solutions - water can help you recognize the "unknown problem" which is the problem that comes from you but you THINK it comes from others and is completely out of your control. Recognizing that a problem is coming from you gives you power to solve.

are you with me on this part so far?

Great. You are right but how is this going to stop people from taking the vaccine?

[myeika]

Hi there.

OK.....

1. We know that we can just say ‘NO’ when vaccines are offered…..

2. We also know how to protect ourselves for when people have had the vaccine and are shedding the viruses (what ever they may be!) Colloidal Silver etc etc…

3. We know enough information to ‘smell’ a rat, so are able to warn and talk to as many people as possible, and pass this information on…..

What we need to work out/on is this….. –

What we do if/when the vaccines are made compulsory!

We need to work out a method/strategy of non-compliance for this!

[whitewolf]

If you want to take the route of healing through water check out Len Horowitz on this. He has been working on this for some time...
All water that I drink has been charged with the 528 frequency of love.
Gifting water in nature can be done with orgonite. Clearing up chemtrails can be done with orgonite as well.

Wherever there is a problem the solution is already present also. Just need to see it....


How do you do that then? or where can I find the info on it? please share:) or is it all to found with Len.
Sorry OP for going off track but this really interested me. I don't have an answer to original question other than to simply refuse.
I do feel though we must become autonomous (we already are of course, we've been conditioned not to) meaning it's no good looking for answers or leaders 'out there' the leadership and answers come from within.

[fairyelfdog]

Thank you myeika

Here is my suggestion:

Construct a chainletter that urges people to call their local policeofficers and explain to them that they will not accept being forcibly vaccinated in cassed the law to do so is passed and that they will consider it a crime against their human rights. Write down some suggested points to make in this chainletter and urge the police to refuse to be used as tools to carry out these crimes. This can be done in america, england and everywhere where it might happen.

[judy101]

Great. You are right but how is this going to stop people from taking the vaccine?

vaccine is the very least of the problem. the only reason there is a David Icke interest is because the majority of the planet is now being effected by problems we can't recognize. We have always had problems but as long as it only effected one or two, when ever they made a complaint nobody listened.

Look at the homeless, do you really think they are homeless or do you think they are victims of some kind of crime and we treat our victims HORRIBLY. Look at people starving in Africa, come on we have known about MASSIVE problems for a very long time now yet we did nothing but made a profit on it.

NOW if I looked at the problem of Vaccine over forcing our children into sex slaves, I'd be focusing on the sex slave problem. Why is it you would focus on a vaccine?

My problem was massive, it brought harm to my 4 children. Nobody listened, nobody helped, nobody cared. The problem I faced is happening to millions of other people on this planet yet it's never discussed, never in the news and nobody will ever talk about it - why? My problem is not as big as people starving in Africa, or victims in wars, or kids in the sex trade, or vaccine that could harm others, but it doesn't mean it isn't important to me and won't hold my undivided attention.

If the majority of the planet is experiencing problems, they notice "hey nobody cares, nobody is listening, nobody has an interest in solving this problem", then the one's noticing the problem like David Icke will gain attention. We are at that stage of the game now. If you want to focus only on vaccine and not all the problems that caused the vaccine problem in the first place - how would you solve it?

We needed to have everything happen exactly the way they have happened - this is all an amazing experience if you understand the total picture. Things had to get this bad before we noticed exactly who we are.

There is one easy fix for this REALLY. The films "The Secret" and "What the Bleep do we know" has opened up huge doors for the Globe to recognize the solutions. Have you ever noticed that if you ask a question long enough you eventually get the answer? That is what I have done to the problems that harmed my children - "how do I solve this problem". I came up with solutions but the solutions always had an obstacle so I kept looking until I found a solution that presented no obstacles and I found it. What solves the problems for my kids, just happens to solve every problem known to the human experience - who'da thought?

So here we are knowing the solution perfectly, no doubt at all. I'd even challenge this David Icke site to pick at it, find the flaw, improve on it as much as possible. Or face the reality that you really have no interest in solving Global problems. From what I've observed people who are working towards "World Peace" require problems for them to earn a living and after years of their hard work we still don't have "world peace". People who offer help in books, need problems in order for them to sell books and yet the problems never go away - why? We are earning money on our problems so there is no motivation to fix a damn thing. How much money is David Icke earning and yet that man KNOWS the solutions, he even links some of the best information on this planet yet doesn't highlight it at all. Instead he makes sense out of the information and puts it in his own books so he can earn more profit.

So just help me out here, are you truly interested in solutions or are you more interested in just complaining about problems?

If you want solutions, the entire Globe can be shifted within a 2 year time frame. Something must happen between now and December 2010 for us to experience this change before 2012 when the bigger problems hit us. There are planetary changes happening, every planet is heating up - why? The moon has an effect on our planet, there are other things that can effect our planet and the Mayan's new about it. We have to solve our global problems in order to be prepared to solve the bigger problems coming our way.

We have chooses and we have directions to take, which direction do you want to take? There will be no mistakes, everything will be perfect you just have to decide to you want to take the hard road or the easy road? Go for the easy road - it's a much better experience.

I am just one person who wants to make some changes. I am getting to the point where I will stop trying to explain what's really going on and just let it all happen or wait for someone else to figure things out. Trust without a doubt if me and my 4 kids were being tortured in front of you, you would say "that's horrible" and then walk away and do nothing to help. That's who we are at the moment.

let me know which direction you want to take? Do you really want to know the solution or do you just LOVE talking about all the problems?

[judy101]

If you want to take the route of healing through water check out Len Horowitz on this. He has been working on this for some time...
All water that I drink has been charged with the 528 frequency of love.
Gifting water in nature can be done with orgonite. Clearing up chemtrails can be done with orgonite as well.

Wherever there is a problem the solution is already present also. Just need to see it....

HUGE HUGE things can be done with water - you mention only a very small part of what water can do. Water can de-program us into who we really are.

[judy101]

How do you do that then? or where can I find the info on it? please share:) or is it all to found with Len.
Sorry OP for going off track but this really interested me. I don't have an answer to original question other than to simply refuse.
I do feel though we must become autonomous (we already are of course, we've been conditioned not to) meaning it's no good looking for answers or leaders 'out there' the leadership and answers come from within.

if you want to learn the science behind everything read everything on Holodynamics.com HUGE WAKE UP CALL if you understand the science.

but his information is still not complete. the author claims holodynamics is a tool that can solve all problems known to the human experience. I'm extremely scientific, I NEED things to make sense, be logical and repeatable. this guy is finally proving with science why our government systems aren't working, why our court systems aren't working and he offers how to fix it. David Icke does have links to this information but I'm perplexed as to why he doesn't highlight it - it's amazing stuff.

BUT IT'S NOT THE TOTAL SOLUTION, it's a peace of a puzzle. Read it and see if you notice the contradictions. Contradictions only point to missing information. I trust David Icke is doing his best and doesn't really want to keep information away from you. I trust Dr. Woolf (holodynamics) is trying to do his best as well so when I see contradictions I just keep looking for that missing information.

What we haven't recognized yet even thought we have been talking about it for years is the reality that we aren't aware of the "Unknown problem". Dr. Woolf is dealing with the "Unknown problem" because he wrote a book that he claims can be a tool that solves every problem known to the human experience yet it was written in 1990 and hasn't hit the best sellers list yet - why? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT AS A PROBLEM, he looked at it as something to complain about and blame others for not buying his books when he told me himself that over all the years he has NOT DONE ANY MARKETING.

[judy101]

Thank you myeika

Here is my suggestion:

Construct a chainletter that urges people to call their local policeofficers and explain to them that they will not accept being forcibly vaccinated in cassed the law to do so is passed and that they will consider it a crime against their human rights. Write down some suggested points to make in this chainletter and urge the police to refuse to be used as tools to carry out these crimes. This can be done in america, england and everywhere where it might happen.

Do you think joe blow police officer has the power to stop this? do you think he is jsut earning his living and has orders to listen to his boss or get fired? He has rent to pay, needs to feed his kids and if he doesn't listen to his boss he gets fired.

Above joe blow police officer is the judges and politicians - which problems do you think they are interested in solving? do you really think nobody has grouped together and made their complaints? Look at Green peace - these guys have thought about every solution to stop things they think is wrong and they aren't having much luck yet and they've been around for years.

it's going to take a completely different mind set to solve this problem. you need to see the entire problem before you can recognize the solutions. but every problem HAS A SOLUTION. Every problem is nothing more then a lack of information. find the missing information and the problem magically goes away. Look at any problem in your past that you've solved. Did you problem get solved once you received more knowledge, more understanding?

[fairyelfdog]

What??

Why do I get complaints for pointing out that the vaccines are an immense threat? Why do I get preached to and told that I don't really want to solve it? Why do my ideas get trampled and ridiculed with "It just won't happen"? Whats wrong with you? You don't know anything about me. Don't tell me I don't want to see the whole picture. Why are you projecting that onto me? I don't understand. What we have here is an emergency situation and if policeofficers refuse to poison themselves and their families and also refuse to carry out orders that leads to poisoning others, then we have removed the cause of the problem. We have broken the chain. This is what needs to happen. It can happen in other ways but this is far from impossible. Your average Joe is a person, a human just like you and more importantly, has a consciousness. Don't give up on them. We need to be direct about this. I am not against anything that has been suggested here. Strike. Do you recognise that word? It has happened before. There is power in numbers and refusing to carry out the will of the tptb is exactly what peaceful non-compliance means.

[fairyelfdog]

vaccine is the very least of the problem.

What?? The vaccine will be a part of a plan to kill off a majority of the population and it's not a big issue??

I shake my head in disbelief....

[judy101]

What??

Why do I get complaints for pointing out that the vaccines are an immense threat? Why do I get preached to and told that I don't really want to solve it? Why do my ideas get trampled and ridiculed with "It just won't happen"? Whats wrong with you? You don't know anything about me. Don't tell me I don't want to see the whole picture. Why are you projecting that onto me? I don't understand. What we have here is an emergency situation and if policeofficers refuse to poison themselves and their families and also refuse to carry out orders that leads to poisoning others, then we have removed the cause of the problem. We have broken the chain. This is what needs to happen. It can happen in other ways but this is far from impossible. Your average Joe is a person, a human just like you and more importantly, has a consciousness. Don't give up on them. We need to be direct about this. I am not against anything that has been suggested here. Strike. Do you recognise that word? It has happened before. There is power in numbers and refusing to carry out the will of the tptb is exactly what peaceful non-compliance means.

WITH LOVE I only said what I said because millions of people have said the same words as you for years and nobody is listening. The problem is you want us to listen to you, while you aren't listening to us (me). As long as you say the words "if we solve your problem, the we have broken the chain" then I know without doubt you only want your problem solved and not the problems other people must face. You want to be happy and you dont' seem to care about others. Others of us are humans too, why is it you don't have the same concern for OTHER problems as you do with this one?

I know without doubt you do care passionately about everyone's problem, you just aren't aware of them yet. What is causing this vaccine problem is also causing all other problems and no a chain letter will not solve this problem and it won't break the chain.

Please feel the love, we just have a communication problem. When I make my complaints about things that are going wrong, I get the same response as you are feeling. David Icke was put down big time for pointing out problems people didn't understand. It's the process and it's painful so please feel my love towards you when I share my thoughts.

[fairyelfdog]

If the majority of the planet is experiencing problems, they notice "hey nobody cares, nobody is listening, nobody has an interest in solving this problem", then the one's noticing the problem like David Icke will gain attention. We are at that stage of the game now. If you want to focus only on vaccine and not all the problems that caused the vaccine problem in the first place - how would you solve it?

Okay. Judy, listen. Just because David earns money, it doesn't mean he is against us or that doesn't want to solve anything or that he thrives on the problem. Quite the contrary Davids work has done enormous good, having read them, I know he is extremely passionate about the freedom of everyone and that he does everything he can to dissolve it by helping people to wake up and pointing to the incredible possibilty of finding your true self. This post to me has been the drip which made the glass tip over. I am so furious with many on this forum. I am so sick and tired of people pointing fingers at others, killing off eachothers ideas, treating eachother with suspicion, ignorance and prejudice and thinking that they are the only ones who is doing anything about this and who really is "real", honest and passionate. For crying out loud STOP THROWING STONES AT EACHOTHER. STOP BICKERING!

Yes, David earns money, SO WHAT? When you know who you are nothing like that affects you. You are only projecting your own fear of what YOU haven't done onto this man. Your OWN feelings of unworthyness. We are all worthy! We all know ways to solve this. We can all love and have perfectly brilliant minds if we just allow it. Breathe. Get out of attackmode. This goes for me too. I am breathing deeply right now.

I have actually been into waterhealing for a while now but I think this is an emergency and needs a more direct approach (NOT VIOLENT OR ABUSIVE).

And believe it or not, Judy, I care about children and the situation in Africa and sex crimes too. It's all connected. Children will die and/or their health will be detroyed if they take the vaccine. What we call AIDS was spread and fortified this way.

I have a question, Judy: Vibrations are information, right? Can you actually spread an urge to be more independent and specifically not take the vaccine through watermagic? In that case it is very interesting but it doesn't have to exclude writing the police (from a grassroot level. Not the headquarters).

Thank you for listening

Kara

[fairyelfdog]

WITH LOVE I only said what I said because millions of people have said the same words as you for years and nobody is listening. The problem is you want us to listen to you, while you aren't listening to us (me). As long as you say the words "if we solve your problem, the we have broken the chain" then I know without doubt you only want your problem solved and not the problems other people must face. You want to be happy and you dont' seem to care about others. Others of us are humans too, why is it you don't have the same concern for OTHER problems as you do with this one?

I know without doubt you do care passionately about everyone's problem, you just aren't aware of them yet. What is causing this vaccine problem is also causing all other problems and no a chain letter will not solve this problem and it won't break the chain.

Please feel the love, we just have a communication problem. When I make my complaints about things that are going wrong, I get the same response as you are feeling. David Icke was put down big time for pointing out problems people didn't understand. It's the process and it's painful so please feel my love towards you when I share my thoughts.

What the..... I'm just not aware of them yet? Wow. I didn't know that. Who are you talking to again? *looks over her shoulder* My word.... thats condescending. I can feel your attitude, girl, but there certainly isn't any love there, only complete lack of respect and some really over-the-top assumptions.

[judy101]

Okay. Judy, listen. Just because David earns money, it doesn't mean he is against us or that doesn't want to solve anything or that he thrives on the problem. Quite the contrary Davids work has done enormous good, having read them, I know he is extremely passionate about the freedom of everyone and that he does everything he can to dissolve it by helping people to wake up and pointing to the incredible possibilty of finding your true self. This post to me has been the drip which made the glass tip over. I am so furious with many on this forum. I am so sick and tired of people pointing fingers at others, killing off eachothers ideas, treating eachother with suspicion, ignorance and prejudice and thinking that they are the only ones who is doing anything about this and who really is "real", honest and passionate. For crying out loud STOP THROWING STONES AT EACHOTHER. STOP BICKERING!

Yes, David earns money, SO WHAT? When you know who you are nothing like that affects you. You are only projecting your own fear of what YOU haven't done onto this man. Your OWN feelings of unworthyness. We are all worthy! We all know ways to solve this. We can all love and have perfectly brilliant minds if we just allow it. Breathe. Get out of attackmode. This goes for me too. I am breathing deeply right now.

I have actually been into waterhealing for a while now but I think this is an emergency and needs a more direct approach (NOT VIOLENT OR ABUSIVE).

And believe it or not, Judy, I care about children and the situation in Africa and sex crimes too. It's all connected. Children will die and/or their health will be detroyed if they take the vaccine. What we call AIDS was spread and fortified this way.

I have a question, Judy: Vibrations are information, right? Can you actually spread an urge to be more independent and specifically not take the vaccine through watermagic? In that case it is very interesting but it doesn't have to exclude writing the police (from a grassroot level. Not the headquarters).

Thank you for listening

Kara

very well put but can you see you are doing the same thing to me as you THINK I am doing towards you?

let me get this correct. You want me to focus on the problem that has your attention? YOu want me to drop everything I'm doing and focus 100000% on the problem that YOU find is important because you FEEL it's an emergency - people will die?

if so why is it you can't see that I have, I recognize your focused problem as well plenty of others. I've recognized what will solve all of them but you want to focus on just one problem. Frankly if we can't recognize the bigger problems maybe the human race should end, we should all die. If that is the case then the vaccine is a good idea and we should convince everyone to take it.

For you to come across as pissed off as you appear just because I won't bow down to writing YET ANOTHER LETTER to someone YOU think will listen makes me say the words LOOK IN A MIRROR - it is you who is projecting this onto me and not me projecting this only you.

i SEE YOU AS A LOVING PASSIONATE PERSON NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ME HARM. I see you stuck on a problem running into a wall over and over again and getting yourself all worked up. YOu can't even see that your words are the same as mine. If you've read David's books then you know what you FEEL is being projected onto you is actually an illusion, it is you projecting that onto yourself - this is your illusion not mine.

[myeika]

Hi Judy.

Thank you for contributing to this discussion…..

We all are on the same road, and we all see different things/realities, many of us have been walking this way for some time so we do understand the message to are sharing with us..

The point of this thread was that I personally agreed with what David was saying in his newsletter, and felt there would be others who did too. I like him, feel that we are fast approaching a point where we will ‘all’ be facing something, which will require some form of action from the ones who don’t want to walk their path.

This is the emerging situation we are discussing here, where we are looking for ways we can peacefully non-comply if/when mandatory vaccinations arise.

Thank you again for you contribution to the thread.

[fairyelfdog]

Smile. Okay enough. I'll leave the argument. We are both right in different ways.

Do you really think that if the people working for the police knew that they we're carrying out massmurder when forcing people to take the vaccine, they would still do it?
What I was suggesting wasn't really a complaint as much as informing them of what was going on and telling them that we will not cooperate. I don't know how they would react. I did suggest phonecalls and not mails or letters, that can be deleted and ignored easily. If we can make enough people do this it might make an impact. I also asked you a question about waterhealing I am curious about. :

"I have a question, Judy: Vibrations are information, right? Can you actually spread an urge to be more independent and specifically not take the vaccine through watermagic? In that case it is very interesting but it doesn't have to exclude writing the police (from a grassroot level. Not the headquarters)."

[judy101]

Hi Judy.

Thank you for contributing to this discussion…..

We all are on the same road, and we all see different things/realities, many of us have been walking this way for some time so we do understand the message to are sharing with us..

The point of this thread was that I personally agreed with what David was saying in his newsletter, and felt there would be others who did too. I like him, feel that we are fast approaching a point where we will ‘all’ be facing something, which will require some form of action from the ones who don’t want to walk their path.

This is the emerging situation we are discussing here, where we are looking for ways we can peacefully non-comply if/when mandatory vaccinations arise.

Thank you again for you contribution to the thread.

I agree 10000%
we are all on the same page
we have a communication problem - that's all
there is a way to stop this - what stops this will stop everything
David Icke is a good guy - I think we are all good people we are just lost

if my solutions wont' solve this problem, then I can understand the frustration

did the letter writing thing - didn't work
trusted in authority - was constantly let down

I've come up with a solution that solves everyone's problems - tell me why it won't work?

[fairyelfdog]

We don't have two years?

[judy101]

Smile. Okay enough. I'll leave the argument. We are both right in different ways.

Do you really think that if the people working for the police knew that they we're carrying out massmurder when forcing people to take the vaccine, they would still do it?
What I was suggesting wasn't really a complaint as much as informing them of what was going on and telling them that we will not cooperate. I don't know how they would react. I did suggest phonecalls and not mails or letters, that can be deleted and ignored easily. If we can make enough people do this it might make an impact. I also asked you a question about waterhealing I am curious about. :

"I have a question, Judy: Vibrations are information, right? Can you actually spread an urge to be more independent and specifically not take the vaccine through watermagic? In that case it is very interesting but it doesn't have to exclude writing the police (from a grassroot level. Not the headquarters)."

The problem is we all can't recognize the bigger picture. Take a look at this thread - we all want the same thing yet it's impossible to communicate with each other and be understood.

Look at the police as being totally and completely insane, do you think they can understand your logic if THEY are insane? Trust without doubt someone above them, someone telling them how to do their job is warning them not to listen to you. Their bosses make much more sense to them then you or I will because it's their insanity, it's what makes sense to them.

and yes this water concept will stop people from taking the vaccine, it will make the police understand the problem so they can actually protect us. It will cure the entire planet of our insanity thinking because it makes us totally aware of the entire big picture.

Plus is will cure anyone who has taken the vaccine and it will cure anyone who is suffering from any illness. It's a completely different world if you see the bigger picture. I know this sounds completely insane but I bring scientific evidence that even David Icke is using to write his books from - holodynamics has been curing cancers, aids, all mental illness, addictions for more then 30 years. IT'S PURE SCIENCE, I can't find any flaws in it other then it's only a peace of the puzzle - it's not the complete picture. IT is exactly what he claims it to be just a tool that can solve every problem known to the human experience.

The water just helps you recognize your thoughts. If we had a global addiction to this water then the influence is subliminal and will effect even those who dont' drink it. It's extremely suggestive which is exactly what is being done to us through tv, commercials, advertising.

YES IT WILL STOP PEOPLE FROM TAKING THIS VACCINE AND IT WILL STOP THOSE FROM PRODUCING IT.

[fairyelfdog]

I'm all for it :) (May I suggest that you stop telling people they do not see the bigger picture though. You don't know what they (we) see or don't see)

This seems to be a good way of working on it. I am aware that water carries emotion and thought but to me this is only one way through which we have to work, and is it fast enough? Also, when we pour water into other bodies of water won't the information/emotion be diluted by what was already in this body? How would we go about spreading it around in vast quantities fast? I seriously doubt the ptpb will suddenly stop producing the vaccine when they have tasted this water though ... they are extremely resistent ;)... but I see your point.

[fairyelfdog]

Look at the police as being totally and completely insane, do you think they can understand your logic if THEY are insane? Trust without doubt someone above them, someone telling them how to do their job is warning them not to listen to you. Their bosses make much more sense to them then you or I will because it's their insanity, it's what makes sense to them.

Has it really gone this far? Don't they deserve a warning? I'm not at all sure you are right about this. I'm not for a moment suggesting that you should trust authority or that you should expect the police to refuse and accept it if they don't. Of course what we need to do is simply to not take the vaccine no matter what.

[grenadene]

Put a little round plaster on the top of your arm and tell them you've had it (that's my plan and I haven't heard a better one :D)

[judy101]

I'm all for it :) (May I suggest that you stop telling people they do not see the bigger picture though. You don't know what they (we) see or don't see)

This seems to be a good way of working on it. I am aware that water carries emotion and thought but to me this is only one way through which we have to work, and is it fast enough? Also, when we pour water into other bodies of water won't the information/emotion be diluted by what was already in this body? How would we go about spreading it around in vast quantities fast? I seriously doubt the ptpb will suddenly stop producing the vaccine when they have tasted this water though ... they are extremely resistent ;)... but I see your point.

sorry for using the words "people don't see the bigger picture yet". I don't know how else to describe it. it's kind of like - I have information to share with you, while information you share with me is very much old news. How would you describe it, what are better words?

please let me explain that I don't have all the answers, I am only one peace of a massive puzzle - just like the rest of us. I've been given a snap shot of the massive puzzle but I'm still only one peace and don't know the full and complete story. The only way we will get that complete story is when we learn how to communicate more effectively. That's the problem I'm working on now is communication - HUGE STRUGGLE. I use to be good at this and now that I've come to learn what I know my communication now sucks big time so I apologize for that.

From my calculations the water concept will take 2 years to make a complete global shift so it all depends on when things got started. it's all math and statics that predicts how fast it will work. I personally think that it can work faster, once enough people understand then the masses just automatically understand like magic.

how you spread this concept is by using everything we already know, go with the energy instead of against it.

We are sheep, don't try to be horses or dogs when in fact we are sheep - be at one with that for now.

We are facing a Global economic challenge - us sheep need food and shelter while we have no jobs. offer them a way to earn money and the sheep will follow.

it does require going into everything you would normally object to - we need to go into the problems in order to find the solutions.

it does have a cost of about $100,000 but will earn more money then oil and it will be OWNED by the people who drink it. If you are a member of this concept you have the opportunity to get a loan to start any idea or concept that benefits humanity. Water will be our new human banking systems. Once it's in effect there will be no need for it, or money for that matter but it's a process we need to take in order to make a massive change.

basically what has happened is we've discovered psychology and only provided it for the rich to get richer. Psychology only teaches you how to ignore and accept problems so while you are making more money you can't recognize that you need to take it from someone else causing problems for others. That is why you can see someone tortured in front of you and walk away without it effecting you. YOu'll say the words "this must stop" but you know psychologically you can't do anything to stop it so why bother - focus on what you can change. The most upsetting phrase I've heard is "accept the things I cannot change", you can change anything if you wanted to.

This water concept will provide all the psychology to everyone on the planet but will provide the power to change and solve YOUR own problems in a responsibly, human manor. it must be provided free to all schools and people living in poverty - we cannot leave anyone behind. Who ever you leave behind will be the source of your unknown problem. YOu harm yourself if you leave even your enemy behind after all they are human too - even the Illuminati - the one's who have been brain washed the most - they are the one's suffering the most and we must love them and help heal them too. They would drink from this water just to prove they aren't as bad as we think they are. Even if they drink from it and try to fight the process, they can't because it's suggestive and will work on them even if they dont' realize it. it is the strongest brain washing I can think of lol but it's brain washing ourselves to be OURSELVES and not what I want you to be or what others want you to be. Find out who you are and then be it.

[fairyelfdog]

Youre right. You are ranting. (and preaching) This is too slow and too complex. You have not bothered to answer my simple questions and you are extremely arrogant. Of course we need to find out who we are. Don't put me down again by telling me I have missed the point. I have not. I will do watermagic, like I have often done but the vaccinations are a few months from now.

[fairyelfdog]

Should we meet up somewhere .... or is that the herd mentality talking again?

Maybe there is no other answer but to refuse and take the consequences...

[judy101]

Youre right. You are ranting. (and preaching) This is too slow and too complex. You have not bothered to answer my simple questions and you are extremely arrogant. Of course we need to find out who we are. Don't put me down again by telling me I have missed the point. I have not. I will do watermagic, like I have often done but the vaccinations are a few months from now.

my mistake - so what you are telling me is you would rather spend your days

ranting
being arrogant
putting others down

I stand corrected and will move onto others who are actually interested in solving problems.

[fairyelfdog]

my mistake - so what you are telling me is you would rather spend your days

ranting
being arrogant
putting others down

I stand corrected and will move onto others who are actually interested in solving problems.

Hihi... if I can fit it in. I have a busy schedule.

[soothseeker]

My own personal take on this.

I feel as mentioned before we are all pretty much on the same page, we just need to agree on the problems, then an action/s, to achieve the solution.

I completely agree that if we only solve the vaccine problem it stills leaves all the others behind and doesn't address the people who are actually creating these issues in the first place. Stop one method of killing us just to find they invent another one to do the same job.

However, it's a big enough problem to warrant all of our attention and I also feel this would make a great test case. If we can all work together on solving this problem, not only would it irradicate one method of poisoning or worse yet killing us but it would also put us in a more powerful position to move onto bigger problems. If we all work together we can totally disrupt the system.

I feel creating a chain letter would only go so far, but thats a start is it not. The more people we can reach with the correct information equates to more people with the desire to take positive action. Be it the simple refusal to take the vaccine or to get on board and actually help spread the word and take an active role in tackling other problems.

So we could gather the most informative information there is on this subject and create a chain letter containing that information with links to more relevant information and directions on best practices of spreading the word.

If we manage to actually stop the authorities from moving forward with the vaccination program (and I believe we're more than capable), it puts us in an even stronger position to motivate people on the next problem we decide to tackle.

I'm not saying that water isn't the answer its just that I've not heard of it before so without the relevant information I cannot comment on it (sounds very interesting though so its on my reading list).

I would have to agree if it takes two years for the desired affects of water to work, then we also need to be reinforcing it with a parallel action/s at the same time. The more tools you use in your arsenal the better the chances are of reaching the desired effect.

Every problem requires a different approach, generally a smaller problem requires an action that's easier to orchestrate. One thing I've become sure about from using this forum is how often there are what can seem like to others “petty minded disagreements”. If we're unable to even decide on what smaller problems to target, do we really stand any chance at tackling the entire problem straight away.

And can I make it clear that although I'm calling the compulsory vaccination program “a small problem” I know its a big problem. I only mean its small when compared to some of the other problems we're facing, I hope you know what I'm trying to get at..

Like the conspiracy to convince us all that the disposal of radioactive material into the New York sewer system is not a problem but rather entertainment.

I've seen the TV programs. There's giant mutant ninja turtles down there for gods sake!

[kassondra8]

Ummm ok maybe it's just me, but I just read this whole damn thread and still have no idea what this water healing thing is really about. Someone please explain. What exactly do we do to the water??? How exactly do we affect everyone's water and change it?? Is this something each individual can do to their water? Lol, very confused....lots of talk with not a whole lot being said.

[fairyelfdog]

Ummm ok maybe it's just me, but I just read this whole damn thread and still have no idea what this water healing thing is really about. Someone please explain. What exactly do we do to the water??? How exactly do we affect everyone's water and change it?? Is this something each individual can do to their water? Lol, very confused....lots of talk with not a whole lot being said.

Hihi, well....

Water is extremely sensitive to vibration and emotion. Everything gets stored in it. Have a look at people like Masaru Emotos page and you will see the effect on water crystals from being told things like "gratitude" or "I hate you".

You can transmit your emotional state to water and it will affect all water it comes in contact with... that is to say if the water it comes in contact with doesn't affect the water you energised instead. I asked judy101 about that but she wouldn't answer it. In theory if you sing to water or tell it something that vibration will be carried and affect the entire body of water you pour it into. People have tried this with poisoned lakes for example and as far as I know it has worked very well.

Now given that you can actually transmit such detailed information as "don't take the vaccine", which may sound crazy but actually is quite possible I would ask where to put it for it to reach peoples drinking water. Maybe if you know the lakes where your town/city/village takes it water from you can talk to them/pour the water into them.

I also don't know if the information will be diluted by the lakes state of mind. Another point to make is that your own emotional state and level of commitment will be carried in the water. If you're not feeling to well or have feelings of hopelessness and insecurity, I wouldn't recomend it or I would say: wait until you're feeling better. I'm going to. ;)

[fairyelfdog]

Actually, come to think of it, if you are not feeling too well you can broadcast "don't take the vaccine" to the water intensely and then throw an orgonite stone in the lake which should help tranform the negative energies.

www.orgonite.info

[kassondra8]

Ya I've seen the water crystal pics, very fascinating. So if I have this right, what Judy is advocating is that someone talented with giving postive vibrations do so to some water and then dump it into a source of public drinking water? Sounds good to me, couldn't hurt. I have some messages I'd like to add, lol.

Btw, do you practice this with your personal water? If so, does it seem to have an effect, and what messages do/would you give it?

[jolinemaria]

How do you do that then? or where can I find the info on it? please share:) or is it all to found with Len.
Sorry OP for going off track but this really interested me. I don't have an answer to original question other than to simply refuse.
I do feel though we must become autonomous (we already are of course, we've been conditioned not to) meaning it's no good looking for answers or leaders 'out there' the leadership and answers come from within.

I bought the cd Holy Harmony from Len Horowitz website. I fill some bottles with water a leave them standing in front of the speakers while playing the cd overnight. I also bought waterenergizing stickers that charge the water with the love frequency. I have put them on my waterfilter, aquarium, car-window (so the rain coming of will be charged when returning to the earth) etc etc.

[fairyelfdog]

Ya I've seen the water crystal pics, very fascinating. So if I have this right, what Judy is advocating is that someone talented with giving postive vibrations do so to some water and then dump it into a source of public drinking water? Sounds good to me, couldn't hurt. I have some messages I'd like to add, lol.

Btw, do you practice this with your personal water? If so, does it seem to have an effect, and what messages do/would you give it?

I do use it for my personal water. I have this big glass jar with a glass lid I have painted "Love" on on the bottom, then I fill it with water, put a small purifier in it and put it outside in the sunlight. It then absorbs the energy from the sun which is both healing ans sustaining. There are people in this world who do not eat but only lives on the energy from the sun.

I also have the same word painted on three glass bowls which I have placed around the room where I spend most of my time. When the water evaporates, it does things to the atmophere. But lets return to the topic... (sorry mods)

[myeika]

Hi folks…

Just wanted to share something that I came across this morning….

This document describes the UK’s Government’s strategic approach to and
preparations for an influenza pandemic.

They like to hide things in plain sight!

1 Strategic approach

1.1 Purpose
This document describes the Government’s strategic approach to and
preparations for an influenza pandemic. It provides general information on the
likely impact and sets out some of the key assumptions for use in response
planning. It also provides a national framework within which organisations
responsible for planning, delivering or supporting local responses should develop
and maintain integrated operational arrangements that are flexible enough to
respond to local needs and circumstances, whilst providing the wider degree of
consistency necessary for an effective, sustainable and equitable national
approach.

1.2 Aim
The primary aim of this document is to guide and support integrated
contingency planning and preparations for pandemic influenza across
government, in health and social care and in public and private sector
organisations. Additionally, it describes arrangements for coordinating the UK’s
response and provides references to sources of more detailed information.

1.3 Scope
The arrangements described relate specifically to an influenza pandemic. They
do not cover planning for or the response to seasonal influenza outbreaks or any
incidents involving the prevention or control of avian (eg A/H5N1) influenza or
other animal influenza virus infection in birds or humans, which remain the
responsibility of the appropriate government departments and public health,
animal health and local authority bodies in accordance with normal procedures.
However, they do cover the recognition and management of cases of influenzalike
illness in humans that raise suspicions of a new influenza virus variant that
might cause a pandemic, which may have its origin as an avian virus.
A range of public and private sector organisations and agencies – acting
individually and collectively – are responsible for supporting the health and social
care response, managing a pandemic’s wider impacts, minimising social and
economic disruption and maintaining business continuity. Whilst not intended to
provide detailed operational guidance, this document provides general
information and planning assumptions to inform and encourage wider
contingency planning.
Although these arrangements provide for a consistent and coordinated UK-wide
approach, health and social care is a devolved responsibility and some
differences in organisational structures, responsibilities and operational
arrangements apply in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Each country
produces a national response plan, which should be read in conjunction with this
document for information on the specific arrangements that apply in those parts
of the UK.

Chapter 1: Strategic approach
produces a national response plan, which should be read in conjunction with this
document for information on the specific arrangements that apply in those parts
of the UK.>>>> snip......

For the full document please see:

http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/131669/fp_chapter1.pdf


For up-to-date info and evidance which is being collected please see the Jane Burgermeister – END FORCED VACCINATIONS group on facebook here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102894871603

[alternative_answer]

Money and contracting!
Stop giving your money to the big corporations, divert your money back into the local community.
Buy your weekly shop at the local fruit and veg shop, your local butcher, (meat is a better quality).
Find a local credit union and put your money in there,
Find and join a LETS scheme (http://www.letslinkuk.net/) and put your goods, skills and services to good use.
Buy your petrol from 1 garage, boycott the rest.
When you have a night out, avoid the big chain pubs and restaurants, the foods shit anyway.
Learn about the difference between your natural living soul, human, and a person, a legal fiction use to contract with you.
Learn the difference between common law and statute law.
Learn that in order for an agent of the state to act upon you, they have to have your consent, giving your name is giving your consent and you are entering into contract and giving them jurisdiction over you.
You don't need to fight for your rights, you just need to know them, learn what your rights are and begin to reclaim them.

[griswald]

Well we all know what will happen, if it has not already, once Monsanto get control of water. They have spent years moving in this direction, and their ultimate goal would probably be getting a patent for it.

And as they have made numerous inroads into water treatment facilities
worldwide, that gives them control of the negative programming of the water. It will be a criminal offense "terrorist act". To go any where near water supplies to get them all "loved up". So if you are going to start gifting water with " love,n,gratitude" water, you had better get off your arses mighty sharpish. And then maybe the pendulum will start to swing the other way for a change.

Personally I am a strong advocate of Masaru Emoto, and Victor Schaumberg. And I love my water to death:) But then again maybe the negative forces also play the same game with the water too. Maybe its their prime tool for instilling global acquiessence. Vaccination is definitely something we need to oppose, but its only a small fragment of a bigger issue.Maybe Monsanto want control of water because of how powerful it is, for other reasons that we cant comprehend.

Full Article.
http://www.purefood.org/Monsanto/waterfish.cfm

Monsanto Moves to Control Water Resources

Monsanto plans to earn revenues of $420 million and a net income of
$63 million by 2008 from its water business in India and Mexico. By
2010, about 2.5 billion people in the world are projected to lack
access to safe drinking water. At least 30 per cent of the population
in China, India, Mexico and the U.S. is expected to face severe water
stress. By 2025, the supply of water in India will be 700 cubic km per
year, while the demand is expected to rise to 1,050 units. Control
over this scarce and vital resource will, of course, be a source of
guaranteed profits. As John Bastin of the European Bank of
Reconstruction and Development has said, "Water is the last
infrastructure frontier for private investors."

griswald

[merlincove]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

Great little list

peacefull none compliance to the bs machine is the only way that we can survive their game plan ~ and i use the word survive with intent, .

And all we have to do is say 'NO'
it is that simple.

We just say 'NO'

Again and again and again, to every one of their 'requests'.

Because that is what they are, requests.

They can not make us do anything.

We have divine and sovereign right to say 'NO'

'NO'to council tax,

'NO'to vaccinations,

'NO'to signing a 'release' form,

'NO' to signing a form waving our rights if we do not have the vaccination

'NO' 'NO' 'NO'

Say 'NO' and they will lose.

Ps, appologies for all the fonty stuff, but i do like the word 'NO' :rolleyes:

And have you ever questioned the validity of the word no? Society kinda shies away from it, we excuse ourselves when we say it, 'no, i'm sorry i don't want to buy that.' Society has slowly been enginered into a yes society, yes i'll have that overdraft, yes i'll answer these 'just for security reason' questions, yes i'll buy into your scheme, yes yes yes.

Just say 'NO'

Remember Grange Hill? :rolleyes:

Great OP :cool:

Pease

[myeika]

I have been having a muse on this thread this afternoon, and thought I would share it with you….

Some of us would agree that

- We are conciseness – our full potential self
- Everything is made up of Information
- Information is always in motion
- Everything is connected – within an information system
- There are many unseen dimensions
- Everything is driven by potential
- Everything is relative
- We have the power to change things.

We need to look at it from a different view….

……… information organises from the smallest to the biggest, and if the smallest isn’t working right there is no chance of the biggest working right……

not to sure where I am going with this right now, so I will muse some more……

so then I need to go to a place where I am bigger than the problem……so I can work out the problem…….

so then, I need to get me right – the smallest bit first……

so….as I know that I am conciseness and I am all knowing and I trust and believe this, and if I know how to access my full potential, I can go to it and ask it for help with this situation and know it will be done……because I can alter things!

;) Hehe think I have answered my own question here!

OK what do you think?

[griswald]

I have been having a muse on this thread this afternoon, and thought I would share it with you….

Some of us would agree that

- We are conciseness – our full potential self
- Everything is made up of Information
- Information is always in motion
- Everything is connected – within an information system
- There are many unseen dimensions
- Everything is driven by potential
- Everything is relative
- We have the power to change things.

We need to look at it from a different view….

……… information organises from the smallest to the biggest, and if the smallest isn’t working right there is no chance of the biggest working right……

not to sure where I am going with this right now, so I will muse some more……

so then I need to go to a place where I am bigger than the problem……so I can work out the problem…….

so then, I need to get me right – the smallest bit first……

so….as I know that I am conciseness and I am all knowing and I trust and believe this, and if I know how to access my full potential, I can go to it and ask it for help with this situation and know it will be done……because I can alter things!

;) Hehe think I have answered my own question here!

OK what do you think?


Well done...thread closed:p:p:p

griswald

[fairyelfdog]

Umm... guys

I agree with everything myeika says but:

If they legislate forced vaccination and the police comes to your house, what will you do? Will you be there, waiting for them? Should those of us who refuse meet up somewhere and refuse together? I am thinking about Mahatma Gandhi here and about what happened in India once upon a time.

[the itinerant shrubber]

Umm... guys

I agree with everything myeika says but:

If they legislate forced vaccination and the police comes to your house, what will you do? Will you be there, waiting for them? Should those of us who refuse meet up somewhere and refuse together? I am thinking about Mahatma Gandhi here and about what happened in India once upon a time.

They'll love that. Get the stragglers to round themselves up.
If they turn up on your doorstep,tell them to fuck off. If they become violent,stab them in the face.
You have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go for your freedom. If you're not willing to kill and die for it,you might as well roll over and take it like a bitch right now.

[fairyelfdog]

They'll love that. Get the stragglers to round themselves up.
If they turn up on your doorstep,tell them to fuck off. If they become violent,stab them in the face.
You have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go for your freedom. If you're not willing to kill and die for it,you might as well roll over and take it like a bitch right now.

Violence will not work. Period. You might be right about the gathering though. However, make noise. If the time comes, maybe have a tent at the ready or some kind of escape route, visit friends or similar.

WHEN are they starting the vaccinations in brittain? NOW?

[griswald]

They'll love that. Get the stragglers to round themselves up.
If they turn up on your doorstep,tell them to fuck off. If they become violent,stab them in the face.
You have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go for your freedom. If you're not willing to kill and die for it,you might as well roll over and take it like a bitch right now.

Now thats what I,m talking about................

If they turn up on your doorstep, and want to forcibly inject you, this is exactly what you will have to do, to stop them. Please Mr Plod I dont want your nasty prick, wont do:D

But they are already winning if they think your shittin yourself over the swine flu. Stop crappin on yourself, and slip into nature mode for a while, its a nicer retreat than fear mode.:)



griswald

[merlincove]

Umm... guys

I agree with everything myeika says but:

If they legislate forced vaccination and the police comes to your house, what will you do? Will you be there, waiting for them? Should those of us who refuse meet up somewhere and refuse together? I am thinking about Mahatma Gandhi here and about what happened in India once upon a time.

Yeah good point fairy :D

i think, without jumping the gun, that we would need to wait till it is made mandatory, because as yet it isn't. Being aware of this isn't the same thing as jumping the gun though, and in the mean time we could formulate a plan for sure.

My own opinion of this is to formulate a notice and have such prepared for if this vaccination is made mandatory. Such a notice would need to be signed by three parties, people we know, and would declare that he / she who writes the notice says no to the vaccine, quotting perhaps human rights etc. It should also say that anyone who administers the vaccine or attempts to administer it without permission is moving to violate human rights and will be the subject of a charge of such violation and the common law charge of causing harm. Such a notice should be kept in a safe place, with somone that you trust and sent to your local doctors, police, and MP ~ if you can afford to, send one to a solicitors.

This is just where my head is at with this for starters. Yes it is moving along freeman concepts, but it states categorically your intention to honour your self and your rights, it is witnessed and if done properly 'they' no that you are not fucking about and things wil turn nasty for them if they push you into a corner.

The notice can be a simple letter headed by 'Notice of Understanding and Intent' and saying i the undersigned of blah blah address do not give my concent to be vaccinated, Witnessed by..... It doesn't necersarily have to be all freeman and wordy.

i'm not sure whether getting togther is a good idea, actually. If there are 100 people all together, it will cause a bit of a ruckas, perhaps even make the news, but there is the possability that such a crowd will draw shills etc who may cause trouble and get everyone arrested. In a police cell you will be on your own. I don't wanna scare tactic here, but it is a possability?

Also 100 people individualy at home will cause a lot more stresses to man power, calling at each house, knocking on the door (you don't have to answer) filling in forms etc. The police can not break your door down as you have not done anything wrong, you are perfectly in your rights to say fuck off to anyone who comes knocking without being invited.

But they will know where you live because you won't get your name ticked off down the doc's...

But then again as a group we are stronger, we provide an active and united front that can be recognised, but we'd need to be aware of the anarchists / shills moving in to dissrupt the message and reason. It would as fairy says need to be peacefull, that would need to be stressed. If you are peacefull, they can not take you away.

And then there will be the waves of 'you are a danger to society if you dont get the vaccine' etc, the sheeple will fall for that one.

Sorry to be a stick in the mud, just my two penny's worth.

;)

[griswald]

Yeah good point fairy :D

i think, without jumping the gun, that we would need to wait till it is made mandatoryt, because as yet it isn't. Being aware of this isn't the same thing as jumping the gun though, and in the mean time we could formulate a plan for sure.

My own opinion of this is to formulate a notice and have such prepared for if theis vaccination is made mandatory. Such a notice would need to be signed by three parties, people we know and would declare that he / she who writes the notice says no to the vaccine, quotting perhaps human rights etc. It should also say that anyone who administers the vaccine or attempts to administer it without permission is moving to violate human rights and will be the subject of a charge against such violation and the common law charge of causing harm. Such a notice should be kept in a safe place, with somone that you trust and sent to your local doctors, police, and MP.

This is just where my head is at with this for starters, and it is moving along freeman concepts, but it states categorically your intention to honour your self and your rights.

The notice can be a simple letter headed by 'Notice of Understanding and Intent' and saying i the undersigned of blah blah address do not give my concent to be vaccinated, Witnessed by..... It doesn't nec have to be all freeman and wordy.

i'm not sure whether getting togther is a good idea, actually. If there are 100 people all together, it will cause a bit of a ruckas, perhaps even make the news, but there is the possability that such a crowd will draw shills etc who may cause trouble and get everyone arrested. In a police cell you will be on your own. I don't wanna scare tactic here, but it is a possability?

Also 100 people individualy at home will cause a lot more stress to man power, calling at each house, knocking on the door (you don't have to answer) filling in forms etc.

And they will know where you live because you won't get your name ticked
off down the doc's...

But then again as a group we are stronger, we provide an active and united front that can be recognised, but we'd need to be aware of the anarchists / shills moving in to dissrupt the message and reason.

And then there will be the waves of 'you are a danger to society if yu dont get the vaccine' etc, the sheeple will fall for that one.

Sorry to be a stick in the mud, just my two penny's worth.

;)

I doubt if they will make it mandatory. If they do they wont be banging on your door to give you the jab. They wont have to. You will be volunteering for it yourselves, even if you currently express a wish not to have it. Unless you are of the mindset of those that will fight it physically, you will be most likely at the end of the day to say, aww fuck it, give me the jab. And the reason is you never really expected something like this to happen anyway, so you are not properly prepared for such a scenario. From a survival point of view, you are probably unprepared.

They will put pressure on you to volunteer for it. Such as

You are going to work. Checkpoint. Have you had your vaccine. No sir, I,m afraid I cant let you through.
No vaccine. No work.
No vaccine. No dole.
No vaccine. No welfare support.
No vaccine. No health support.
No vaccine. No travelling.
No vaccine. No family visits.

These sort of pressures will force most to roll up the sleeve. After that, then they will move on to the likes of the itinerant shrubber:D

You cant stand together for support, unless you are willing to fight alone first.

I prefer to think that love will conquer all:). But just in case it doesn.t, its nice to have a backup plan.

griswald

[merlincove]

I doubt if they will make it mandatory. If they do they wont be banging on your door to give you the jab. They wont have to. You will be volunteering for it yourselves, even if you currently express a wish not to have it. Unless you are of the mindset of those that will fight it physically, you will be most likely at the end of the day to say, aww fuck it, give me the jab. And the reason is you never really expected something like this to happen anyway, so you are not properly prepared for such a scenario. From a survival point of view, you are probably unprepared.

They will put pressure on you to volunteer for it. Such as

You are going to work. Checkpoint. Have you had your vaccine. No sir, I,m afraid I cant let you through.
No vaccine. No work.
No vaccine. No dole.
No vaccine. No welfare support.
No vaccine. No health support.
No vaccine. No travelling.
No vaccine. No family visits.

These sort of pressures will force most to roll up the sleeve. After that, then they will move on to the likes of the itinerant shrubber:D

You cant stand together for support, unless you are willing to fight alone first.

I prefer to think that love will conquer all:). But just in case it doesn.t, its nice to have a backup plan.

griswald

Hey griswald :D

Good points.

But i aint havin the jab, i can get thru without it.

But i know what you say, some will bow to the pressure.

And at the end of the day, if everyone else at work has had the jab and you have not, by 'theur' reconing everyone else is safe, you are only a liability to yourself. No one else is at danger, because they are immunised - by their own reconing the only one in danger of the flu is you, so really what risk are you?

[griswald]

Hey griswald :D

Good points.

But i aint havin the jab, i can get thru without it.

But i know what you say, some will bow to the pressure.

And at the end of the day, if everyone else at work has had the jab and you have not, by 'theur' reconing everyone else is safe, you are only a liability to yourself. No one else is at danger, because they are immunised - by their own reconing the only one in danger of the flu is you, so really what risk are you?

I agree with you. But at that stage probably the larger percentage of the population will have bowed to the pressure. You did not, so you will be ostracised by all those who gave in at the last moment, who did not stand with you. they will despise you with a vengeance. Government has succeeded.
Divide and rule.:D
You are not only a liability to yourself, but you are a liability to the government. You are rebellious, and we cant allow that now can we. Any support you could have had has crumbled when they refused your fellowman food and support , if they had no vaccine.So you are a lone gunman, and they know how to deal with you, and your compadres abandoned you anyway. Your fecked, if they get you.

I aint havin the jab either, I,ll be with you and the IT shrubber

griswald

[merlincove]

I agree with you. But at that stage probably the larger percentage of the population will have bowed to the pressure. You did not, so you will be ostracised by all those who gave in at the last moment, who did not stand with you. they will despise you with a vengeance. Government has succeeded.
Divide and rule.:D
You are not only a liability to yourself, but you are a liability to the government. You are rebellious, and we cant allow that now can we. Any support you could have had has crumbled when they refused your fellowman food and support , if they had no vaccine.So you are a lone gunman, and they know how to deal with you, and your compadres abandoned you anyway. Your fecked, if they get you.

I aint havin the jab either, I,ll be with you and the IT shrubber

griswald

You remember that scene from Indipendance day, where they get the old boy who flies the plane, the 'nutter,' and he's on the news being arrested, ranting at the camera? That scene flashed in my mind as i read the last line of your post ~ that'll be us that will, as they cart us off the picket line.....

~~~~shudders~~~~

:D

[fairyelfdog]

I doubt if they will make it mandatory. If they do they wont be banging on your door to give you the jab. They wont have to. You will be volunteering for it yourselves, even if you currently express a wish not to have it. Unless you are of the mindset of those that will fight it physically, you will be most likely at the end of the day to say, aww fuck it, give me the jab.

This is simply not true. Also, I don't doubt they will make it mandatory if people refuse to take the vaccine.

[fairyelfdog]

Yeah good point fairy :D

i think, without jumping the gun, that we would need to wait till it is made mandatory, because as yet it isn't. Being aware of this isn't the same thing as jumping the gun though, and in the mean time we could formulate a plan for sure.

My own opinion of this is to formulate a notice and have such prepared for if this vaccination is made mandatory. Such a notice would need to be signed by three parties, people we know, and would declare that he / she who writes the notice says no to the vaccine, quotting perhaps human rights etc. It should also say that anyone who administers the vaccine or attempts to administer it without permission is moving to violate human rights and will be the subject of a charge of such violation and the common law charge of causing harm. Such a notice should be kept in a safe place, with somone that you trust and sent to your local doctors, police, and MP ~ if you can afford to, send one to a solicitors.

This is just where my head is at with this for starters. Yes it is moving along freeman concepts, but it states categorically your intention to honour your self and your rights, it is witnessed and if done properly 'they' no that you are not fucking about and things wil turn nasty for them if they push you into a corner.

The notice can be a simple letter headed by 'Notice of Understanding and Intent' and saying i the undersigned of blah blah address do not give my concent to be vaccinated, Witnessed by..... It doesn't necersarily have to be all freeman and wordy.

i'm not sure whether getting togther is a good idea, actually. If there are 100 people all together, it will cause a bit of a ruckas, perhaps even make the news, but there is the possability that such a crowd will draw shills etc who may cause trouble and get everyone arrested. In a police cell you will be on your own. I don't wanna scare tactic here, but it is a possability?

Also 100 people individualy at home will cause a lot more stresses to man power, calling at each house, knocking on the door (you don't have to answer) filling in forms etc. The police can not break your door down as you have not done anything wrong, you are perfectly in your rights to say fuck off to anyone who comes knocking without being invited.

But they will know where you live because you won't get your name ticked off down the doc's...

But then again as a group we are stronger, we provide an active and united front that can be recognised, but we'd need to be aware of the anarchists / shills moving in to dissrupt the message and reason. It would as fairy says need to be peacefull, that would need to be stressed. If you are peacefull, they can not take you away.

And then there will be the waves of 'you are a danger to society if you dont get the vaccine' etc, the sheeple will fall for that one.

Sorry to be a stick in the mud, just my two penny's worth.

;)


I LIKE this. Should we publicize these notices? Make a webpage out of it?

[merlincove]

I LIKE this. Should we publicize these notices? Make a webpage out of it?

You could def make a web page if you liked, it isn't that difficult. You could also put your declaration notice on youtube, get a few people to download it and keep it on a hard drive :D if that is the way you wanted to go.

[fairyelfdog]

You could def make a web page if you liked, it isn't that difficult. You could also put your declaration notice on youtube, get a few people to download it and keep it on a hard drive :D if that is the way you wanted to go.

Now we're talking. Although I'm swedish and not english nor american and making vaccination mandatory has not even been debated here. I need to get my stupid internet connection working and I've never made a website before :( Could someone help me?

As for youtubes, thats excellent. Lets flood youtube with videos declaring that we refuse to take the vaccine and refuse to be forcibly vaccinated!

[merlincove]

Now we're talking. Although I'm swedish and not english nor american and making vaccination mandatory has not even been debated here. I need to get my stupid internet connection working and I've never made a website before :( Could someone help me?
As for youtubes, thats excellent. Lets flood youtube with videos declaring that we refuse to take the vaccine and refuse to be forcibly vaccinated!

:D well firstly you';d have to go and buy a domain name, fairyelfdog.com notothevaccine.com or somethin similar, search for web hosts and find their domain link, type in the required name and see if it is available. Some hosts will do a package for two years at £X and a domain name free, others will charge for the domain and the hosting.

i use swds hosting

http://www.swdshosting.com/asp/index.php

and then there is some free software that you can download onto your site, they can do that for you. Maybe it isn't that easy, actually, thinking about it, there is a lot to do :rolleyes:

it did take me a while to sort my sales site out

i think it is joomla who do a good information kinda site, tho i'm not sure how that works, but it is all time consuming and with an initial outlay.

Whereas youtube is free lol, and then you can always make a dedicated thread here and link to it, that would make it a combined effort also.

[griswald]

This is simply not true. Also, I don't doubt they will make it mandatory if people refuse to take the vaccine.

Whats the bit thats not true. The vast majority of folk will roll up the sleeves, because they are not awake yet. The awakened that will not physically fight, will opt for the vaccine, if they believe in non violence. The few left that dont want the vaccine, and are prepared to fight, will make a noble stand, and die for their right to say fuck off with that needle, if its made mandatory.

I will be with IT shrubber, merlincove in the last group, if thats what it takes.
What group will you be in, if non compliance does not work.

griswald

[soothseeker]

I feel like we're getting somewhere now as there's been some very interesting points and ideas raised.

I love the idea of making a deceleration of refusal.

Making a dedicated website would be a good idea as well:

There are several free blog sites that enable you to make a blog. The great thing about this would be you could use it as an online record of peoples intent to refuse the vaccine as well as reporting all the latest news and information to inform the people (and it's free of course). Another good thing about using a blog is you can easily set it up so more than one person can administer it (many hands makes less work)

You could start a blog entry stating your own intent to refuse the vaccine. Another person then writes his statement and posts it on the blog entry as a reply asking for two people to witness their statement who then make their own statement and say they have read the previous two statements and are acting as a witness to them, and so on and so forth.

Don't know if that would be satisfactory in terms of it being a legal document, but it it could be used in conjunction with a physical statement with the witness signatures.

Another idea (whether its useful or not I'll leave you to decide).

We could all phone the doctor and report to them that we have come down with very bad flu. Describe to them the symptoms you have making sure they match that of swine flu. The doctor will prescribe Tamiflu in some cases, especially if you have a respiratory problem or some other underlying problems or illness. This will then be recorded on your medical records..So if and when mandatory vaccination comes into play, we can all say we've already contracted the virus and have naturally built an immunity against it, so what's the point of being vaccinated against a virus we have already beaten.

Surely if there aren't enough vaccinations for everyone, it would make more sense for them to use your vaccine on someone else I know this doesn't help out that poor someone else, but just imagine if in the next month 100% of the population done it. They would have all these vaccines which cost a fortune and nothing to do with them.

If they try to force a vaccine on me, I'm going to tell them I'm scared of needles and have an uncontrollable impulsive reaction of lashing out when confronted with them. Come at me at your own risk:D

[yjoyin]

Facebook seems the way to go.....waxing strong at the moment

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102894871603

Relevant Project Camelot radio debate :-

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-072109.mp3

[kisatu]

Very good thread.

And discussions like this are very interesting. I personally think whatever the decision is people on here decide to take, we must take a united front. Standing alone is tough, standing with 10 behind you is much easier.

[merlincove]

Facebook seems the way to go.....waxing strong at the moment

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102894871603

Relevant Project Camelot radio debate :-

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-072109.mp3

yah, forgot about those, facebook, myspace, maybe the better options than creating a site, thanks for the nudge, i'd go with myspace for the simple reason it is an open network, whereas facebook, only those you invite will be able to access?

[fairyelfdog]

Whats the bit thats not true. The vast majority of folk will roll up the sleeves, because they are not awake yet. The awakened that will not physically fight, will opt for the vaccine, if they believe in non violence. The few left that dont want the vaccine, and are prepared to fight, will make a noble stand, and die for their right to say fuck off with that needle, if its made mandatory.

I will be with IT shrubber, merlincove in the last group, if thats what it takes.
What group will you be in, if non compliance does not work.

griswald

Neither. Consciousness always finds a way. There are other answers then fight or flight but if this situation arises, I'd opt for flight. There would be no point in using violence. I would end up being vaccinated anyway and be a part of creating a negative image of us and add to conflict instead of peace.

[griswald]

Neither. Consciousness always finds a way. There are other answers then fight or flight but if this situation arises, I'd opt for flight. There would be no point in using violence. I would end up being vaccinated anyway and be a part of creating a negative image of us and add to conflict instead of peace.

I dont think we will have the luxury of a positive image in the eyes of all those that have had the vaccine. The non vaccinated will be painted as a pariah by the government, and your neighbours will be encouraged to turn you in.Unless you,ve put a lot of thought into this, way back, I doubt if you are prepared to survive on the run. Indeed if you are not going to fight when and if they find you, why run in the first place. You are saying that you will use no violence, and will end up vaccinated any way. that puts you in the second group of my previous post.

I agree that consciousness may find a way. Orgonite, gifting, water gifting, are all pluses in my book. But will it work on the unconcious out there.
I,ll save a place in the front line for you, little elf puppy.;)

griswald

[fairyelfdog]

I found someone who says he is willing to make the website. Using myspace and facebook are excellent ideas. That doesn't exclude having a specific website for this though, rather it makes it more organised to have a place from which this emanates. Then we can put our declarations in many different settings. Should we have a framework or should we just let people make their declarations freestyle? I like soothseekers idea about witnesses but other then that i don't see why we should try to imitate a legal system that doesn't work. I'm thinking the site should mention our human rights somewhere though, so I need to find that text. Then the declarers can refer to them or not refer to them as they wish. Your thoughts?

[griswald]

I found someone who says he is willing to make the website. Using myspace and facebook are excellent ideas. That doesn't exclude having a specific website for this though, rather it makes it more organised to have a place from which this emanates. Then we can put our declarations in many different settings. Should we have a framework or should we just let people make their declarations freestyle? I like soothseekers idea about witnesses but other then that i don't see why we should try to imitate a legal system that doesn't work. I'm thinking the site should mention our human rights somewhere though, so I need to find that text. Then the declarers can refer to them or not refer to them as they wish. Your thoughts?


That was quick. I just got an email asking me to sign exactly what you are proposing here. How did that happen, on my own personal e mail address.:confused:

griswald

[griswald]

Jees, that was quick, just came across this, maybe a different on to what you are proposing.

Griswald


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/a-universal-declaration-of-resistance-to-mandatory-vaccinations

Vaccine Resistance Movement
petition overview | letter
A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF RESISTANCE TO MANDATORY VACCINATIONS
Target:
World Health Organization
Sponsored by:
VACCINE RESISTANCE MOVEMENT



A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF RESISTANCE TO MANDATORY VACCINATIONS


We the undersigned, as Freemen & Freewomen, do not recognize the authority of The World Health Organization (WHO) to mandate general forced vaccinations. Our bodies are sovereign territory and subject to

[merlincove]

excellent work :D

[fairyelfdog]

Great! Of course, I didn't do that. I still think I will go through on the page I had planned. It will give people a forum to say no the vaccine regardless if it is forced or not. Some people may think that I won't sign this because it won't be forced in my country. Also, posting videos will give more space to elaborate and it will have more impact on the viewer. I will look up the facebook group too. Thanks griswald!

[motokeiru]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

Nice advice, I might add get a gun if all else fails.

[tjohn]

I've worked on that one for a very long time and I have come up with a solution. It's easy, it gets everyone attracting exactly what they want, it stops us from judging others, it transforms negative beliefs into positive one's that serve you better. It provides all the money the planet needs to fund new technology that benefits humanity and not distroys it, it improves communication and it's something that government can't control. The solution is water, very simple but for some odd reason nobody can understand how it works. It's scientific, more then enough science to back up why it works, it uses psychology to reprogram your brain - sort of like de-programming bullshit. It's almost as if we don't want peace, we don't want to solve problems. So no-one understands how it works yet it's 'scientific'. :rolleyes:

How about a 'romantic' story? When I was in my teens I was 'in love' with a girl for several years and I was absolutely certain that we would be married one day - but she went and married someone else! :eek: Then it's my guess that similar has happened to lots of people. So clearly then, wishing or praying with intent for an outcome is not enough. If it does have some effect, there are other forces at work, namely, the intent of other people!

So now think about the military-industrial complex who think about killing people for profit and day after day they not only plan but also practice war and those very 'clever' chaps at the top not being what we would call human. We can wish all we want but the slaughter continues while all we do is wish the world was different.

I once was religious and I believed it with all my heart but it turns out that religion does not tell the truth and it is a scam! Then consider how many millions of people pray in faith for a good outcome, yet very bad things continue to happen to those who pray so they and their children get murdered. Do we think that the prayers of millions of people (including some Christians) could have stopped the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere? Well, as we can see, it didn't.

Without a doubt, the above proves that simply having intent or beliefs is usually not enough.


So now we have the hype about water being able to hold information where "nobody can understand how it works" - yet it is "scientific" - and somehow the information and intent believed to be imprinted in the water, can be passed onto other people.

Well, I am not saying it's impossible but how do we know that it's not a load of misinfo BS, intended (pun?) to lead us away from doing something more real?

And if it's just psychology (as in a belief that water can pass on good intent) not everyone is going to buy it are they, least of all the PTB.

[tjohn]

Nice advice, I might add get a gun if all else fails.They have more and bigger guns and you wouldn't stand a chance.

[tjohn]

It's gone quiet. Was it something I said? :confused:

[edit]

There is far more strength in numbers ....
numbers are real and so they are minds - a real maya
as they all come from this simple equation -- cos(i)=1.54308064

[edit]

that equation is this

Affirmation of Faith:

God Siva is Immanent Love and Transcendent Reality.

http://www.siddha.com.my/images/anbe_sivamayam.gif

Anbe Sivamayam, Satyame Parasivam
(Affirmation in Tamil).

its real meaning says mama(meme)sivamaya is true parasiva
means the face of sphinx - it is the middle point of the heart

[windeyaho]

Be aware that signing petitions, joining resistance groups and the like simply make you targets. Declaring your intentions, while making you feel better and getting a few "rah,rahs" from people, will eventually take you down.

Be quiet, be deliberate, be cautious, be selective and gather your people carefully. Have a plan that allows for regrouping and pursuing your goals in many different ways. Position yourselves in such a manner that you can see what is coming and defend yourselves or scatter and regroup.

Be aware that the protestor standing next to you at the next townhall meeting may be a plant to watch what you, and your group, do and to sucker you into talking to them.

When things start to get out of hand at a meeting, calm things down, don't add to the chaos. TPTB are looking for any excuse to say the public is out-of-hand, unruly, an "angry mob" and that martial law is necessary. When the majority say "No" consistantly, quietly and without backing down, the minority can not hold them back.

[edit]

numbers are real and so they are minds - a real maya
as they all come from this simple equation -- cos(i)=1.54308064



http://functions.wolfram.com/EllipticFunctions/SiegelTheta3/visualizations/sidebarFunctionGraphic.gif SiegelTheta[{{u1,...,ur},{v1,...,vr}},{{m1,1,...,m1,r},...,{mr ,1,...,mr,r}},{s1,...,sr}] (1 formula)


pass the sphinx here -> . `:} . ( . <- be in this one now and aware, this is your kav, just a bit above the heart of a human being is the new 5th chakra and the 7th-one of this universe - this is where Brahman awakes Self

[wildhorse]

well...

I do not intend to have the vaccine, and now I got BaxterGlaxoKline flu I would have thought I have built up sufficient antibodies to deal with another outbreak. Afterall this is how vaccines 'work', by giving you a mild strain of the virus/disease to build up the antibodies. Even some have built up antibodies to AIDS. The swquaking about the new deadlier strain to hit in the autumn is flawed, by their own teachings.

I am now part of the NHS slave force again (start monday), who tried to get me to have a hep B booster and tetnus etc etc. I refused. The old bitch did try and lay the authoritarian mode on me, but it didnt wash. I was even told by one of the nurses that they cant force you to have a vaccine. She got some blood to check the antibodies from my first hep B jab in 96'....I guess they are still there as not heard owt back :D

stand ya ground folks, and turn their theories back onto them. Catch swine flu if you can, it dont hurt, had worse hangovers, just water fast, with mabes fresh lemon juice in.

if you want a forum to sign your name to say No thank you to the vaccine, then by all means I have the facility to do it on my site. I dont think saying 'vaccine resistence' is particulary helpful - just makes us sound like trouble makers and instantly diverts hostility to the main cause. Instead I will say something like this...

"I wildhorse, in full sentinent state of mind, take my health for my body into my own hands, and I have made an informed decision not to have the vaccine. I accept full responsibility for my decision and shall continue to adhere to a healthy lifestyle, as set by the Government...blah de blah de blahhhhh"

:confused::rolleyes: ...summit like that....lol


water [fasting] does play a vital role in our health. Its not just about drinking masses of it tho. I have gifted a couple of reservoirs near me, and the other day I saw a cop car, and men in full on virus suits carrying a box into the reservoir :eek: ...made me think!! I hope it was just more fish....

still few more lumps of org thrown in wont do any harm ;)



just say NO thank you peeps :)

[bluehorseman]

My contribution- break your negative samskaras - if your walking past the bakery everyday then one day decide to buy a bun then you find yourself walking past the bakery everyday and buying a bun everyday stop doing it.

Try doing something out of the routine.

Get a dice and on a peice of paper write down 6 options; one extreme option, 4 average to nice options and one horrible option. Roll the dice and whatever number comes up force yourself to carry out that option to the end.

If you do this pls let me know how you got on.

[cafetimes1991]

100s of ways to fight the New World Order. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45167)

[white horse]

Never use a debit card.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.


^

[white horse]

100s of ways to fight the New World Order. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45167)

^

that's a great post cafetimes and should be a sticky at top of thread someone, some great advice and tips. Appreciate the work and effort you 'kids' are going to for all generations; after all you are the ones inheriting this fucked up mess that we are passing on!!

Respect...:cool:

[mrmoney]

Just drive around your surrounding area and HAND OUT HUNDREDS OF DVDS A WEEK. That is the absolute best way to wake the masses up. Just bombard their mailboxes with discs. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[cafetimes1991]

^

that's a great post cafetimes and should be a sticky at top of thread someone, some great advice and tips. Appreciate the work and effort you 'kids' are going to for all generations; after all you are the ones inheriting this fucked up mess that we are passing on!!

Respect...:cool:

Just drive around your surrounding area and HAND OUT HUNDREDS OF DVDS A WEEK. That is the absolute best way to wake the masses up. Just bombard their mailboxes with discs. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Two of my favourite posts of the week.

[joedrescher]

Here is my thinking

We should all try to become as free and independent as possible, and withdraw any direct or indirect support of the elite. It is not hassle free, but it can be achieved:


Boycott big employers – stick to small biz and preferably, become self employed. Work for a company that does good, or at least, does not do evil.
Boycott industrialized foods – buy ecological foods, preferably directly from the source
Boycott the consumer products industry –buy locally manufactured products or second hand products
Boycott the pharma industry – learn about herbal remedies naturally available
Boycott the mainstream media and entertainment industry (especially Hollywood)
Invest your money in things of real value such as property
Get debt free – buy a house you can afford
Apply sound policies of expenditure, and put aside money every month for improving your house, paying off your debt or other sound investments
Expand your skills of basic survival (gardening, handcraft, etc)
Inform and influence people around you




Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

[ustane]

You could def make a web page if you liked, it isn't that difficult. You could also put your declaration notice on youtube, get a few people to download it and keep it on a hard drive :D if that is the way you wanted to go.

I'm party to that too and I'll download it. Soothseeker's idea of us all phoning in with pig flu to get it down on our records is a good strategy too. And using an open network like myspace.

[ustane]

I agree with you. But at that stage probably the larger percentage of the population will have bowed to the pressure. You did not, so you will be ostracised by all those who gave in at the last moment, who did not stand with you. they will despise you with a vengeance. Government has succeeded.
Divide and rule.:D
You are not only a liability to yourself, but you are a liability to the government. You are rebellious, and we cant allow that now can we. Any support you could have had has crumbled when they refused your fellowman food and support , if they had no vaccine.So you are a lone gunman, and they know how to deal with you, and your compadres abandoned you anyway. Your fecked, if they get you.

I aint havin the jab either, I,ll be with you and the IT shrubber

griswald

I ain't having it neither, no matter what, and I'm willing to fight if I have to ,and I'll be with you and IT shrubber

[solarwindspirit]

Here is my thinking

We should all try to become as free and independent as possible, and withdraw any direct or indirect support of the elite. It is not hassle free, but it can be achieved:


Boycott big employers – stick to small biz and preferably, become self employed. Work for a company that does good, or at least, does not do evil.
Boycott industrialized foods – buy ecological foods, preferably directly from the source
Boycott the consumer products industry –buy locally manufactured products or second hand products
Boycott the pharma industry – learn about herbal remedies naturally available
Boycott the mainstream media and entertainment industry (especially Hollywood)
Invest your money in things of real value such as property
Get debt free – buy a house you can afford
Apply sound policies of expenditure, and put aside money every month for improving your house, paying off your debt or other sound investments
Expand your skills of basic survival (gardening, handcraft, etc)
Inform and influence people around you


I like that myself. We should start a nice site pertaining to this information.
However, people still spend ten dollars for a tylenol while in the hospital. And they still pay it (hospital always rationalizes it's to offset other expenditures but that is the way it goes with business huh)

Where are you from? Im in the US. We now have one store to shop atr. .
Wal Mart. And I'm gonna buy a solar panel and explore options of alternative energy. There's a magnetic electrical energy too. My garden is always workable. . .I'm a novice gardner but with a small plot of land. . .with good vegetables. But I'm not off the water system yet either. I avoid mainstream news.

[solarwindspirit]

well...

I do not intend to have the vaccine, and now I got BaxterGlaxoKline flu I would have thought I have built up sufficient antibodies to deal with another outbreak. Afterall this is how vaccines 'work', by giving you a mild strain of the virus/disease to build up the antibodies. Even some have built up antibodies to AIDS. The swquaking about the new deadlier strain to hit in the autumn is flawed, by their own teachings.

I am now part of the NHS slave force again (start monday), who tried to get me to have a hep B booster and tetnus etc etc. I refused. The old bitch did try and lay the authoritarian mode on me, but it didnt wash. I was even told by one of the nurses that they cant force you to have a vaccine. She got some blood to check the antibodies from my first hep B jab in 96'....I guess they are still there as not heard owt back :D

stand ya ground folks, and turn their theories back onto them. Catch swine flu if you can, it dont hurt, had worse hangovers, just water fast, with mabes fresh lemon juice in.

if you want a forum to sign your name to say No thank you to the vaccine, then by all means I have the facility to do it on my site. I dont think saying 'vaccine resistence' is particulary helpful - just makes us sound like trouble makers and instantly diverts hostility to the main cause. Instead I will say something like this...

"I wildhorse, in full sentinent state of mind, take my health for my body into my own hands, and I have made an informed decision not to have the vaccine. I accept full responsibility for my decision and shall continue to adhere to a healthy lifestyle, as set by the Government...blah de blah de blahhhhh"

:confused::rolleyes: ...summit like that....lol


water [fasting] does play a vital role in our health. Its not just about drinking masses of it tho. I have gifted a couple of reservoirs near me, and the other day I saw a cop car, and men in full on virus suits carrying a box into the reservoir :eek: ...made me think!! I hope it was just more fish....

still few more lumps of org thrown in wont do any harm ;)



just say NO thank you peeps :)

Yes, and I as a child got german measles and diptheria from a vaccine. Just say no.

[secret66mechanism]

this is an absolute must...i think our american friends are about to do the same because you can only push a nation so far before it starts to explode. we can only hope that time is on there side. and thats the thing "TIME". lets do this sooner rather than later:) they have the camps.the new laws.the millitary.police.private security.a virus with free killer vaccination thrown in. there almost ready to push the big red button.that says "do not push". so time for action is now... hi all im new here just wiping the sleepy dust from my eyes...wow unbelieveable whats going on in the world and whats been going on in the world for years.. names ryan from southampton uk...can we find out how many people there are in certain parts of the country as it helps to know were the troops are.

[tootrue]

Spread info about the way flouride (and other elements) blocks your infinite conscious mind and intuition!

Intuition is the worst enemy of the system!

[secret66mechanism]

Ummm ok maybe it's just me, but I just read this whole damn thread and still have no idea what this water healing thing is really about. Someone please explain. What exactly do we do to the water??? How exactly do we affect everyone's water and change it?? Is this something each individual can do to their water? Lol, very confused....lots of talk with not a whole lot being said.

you took the words right out of my mouth:eek:

[hobo]

Great thread! :p

[mightiswrong]

Here is my thinking

We should all try to become as free and independent as possible, and withdraw any direct or indirect support of the elite. It is not hassle free, but it can be achieved:


Boycott big employers – stick to small biz and preferably, become self employed. Work for a company that does good, or at least, does not do evil.
Boycott industrialized foods – buy ecological foods, preferably directly from the source
Boycott the consumer products industry –buy locally manufactured products or second hand products
Boycott the pharma industry – learn about herbal remedies naturally available
Boycott the mainstream media and entertainment industry (especially Hollywood)
Invest your money in things of real value such as property
Get debt free – buy a house you can afford
Apply sound policies of expenditure, and put aside money every month for improving your house, paying off your debt or other sound investments
Expand your skills of basic survival (gardening, handcraft, etc)
Inform and influence people around you

Houses are not an investment. They are always a liability (unless you rent them out). 1 house is never worth more than 1 house and will inevitably decay and need repairing which is where the cost comes in.

On the other hand a garden not only provides fresh food in abundance it can also solve the water problem, the dependence on a job and society/ system, supermarkets, doctor/ vaccines, financing the system etc. problems.

It is a sound investment. Not only do the plants provide an annual yield that can be eaten, shared or sold but they grow bigger and bigger adding to the value of the property.

The value of each plant planted ten years ago has grown a hundred-fold (and sometimes a thousand-fold), once, moreover, it has reproduced itself many times without the help of man, augmenting his passive income yearly in increasing progression.
Fifth, his motto: "minimum work, maximum effect." Today his domain is a self-sufficient, self-developing system. I cannot parade the amount of his annual income without his consent, but, believe me, it is impressive, as is the general value of his entire domain. He lives off the sale of saplings, plant seeds, fish, crawfish, mushrooms, nuts, fruits, berries, and vegetables, and now seminars as well. What's more he does not trouble himself with gathering the harvest. On the other hand, there are enough people willing to gather wholesome, ecologically pure crops, and in doing so to pay 18 to 20 times more for the products than in the usual commercial network.
http://www.krameterhof.at/en/index.php?id=rueckblick

Yes a garden will even stop you getting vaccinated for these reasons:

Your health will be optimal due to the fresh food growing in love. Water too ofcourse. No need to worry about getting ill.

You will be in auto abundance and therefore in a position to resist economic force.

You can stop financing a destructive system causing it to decline and eventually end. Instead redirecting investment into creative projects like establishing more auto abundant gardens (http://www.kindomains.com/_Stories1/00000003.htm).

[jakemaverick]

if you really considering a strategy of non compliance/ civil disobedience you really need to read my story....

jakemaverick911@gmail.com

[everything is ok]

http://www.tiedyes.com/teeshirtimages/happy-face-tee.jpg

[octopusrex]

Two words: Posse Comitatus.

[jakemaverick]

find somewhere to post, check the sig...

[griswald]

you took the words right out of my mouth:eek:


Masaru Emoto, is probably the right place to start researching the healing power of water.:)

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

griswald

[zenith82]

I've read some though not all of this thread so apologies in advance if I am repeating anything a previous poster has said. There is a universal declaration of resistence to the vaccine on the web. Most government/parliament websites should have facilities for making e-petitions with full instructions on how to use them so people could make their own if they cannot find one to add their signature to. I've been fighting the vaccine case for weeks now and believe it or not I have actually had responses from various officials, I have not mentioned proposed genocide or anything else that will be automatically classed as a "conspiracy theory" and dismissed. I have appoached it from the angle of a concerned parent/constituent simply raising issues as to the safety of the vaccine and the human rights infringment if this vaccine should be forced. I've also mentioned the fact that the Czech republic are refusing to purchase the vaccine from Baxter as they cannot guarantee it's safety yet this same company is supplying my country(Scotland) If you stick to the known facts and avoid assosciating yourself with known conspiracy theorists then those you contact are proffessionaly bound to reply. I have had a reply from my local MSP who has sent me a copy of the letter she has sent to Nicola Sturgeon(health minister for scotland) on my behalf insisting that she respond to the concerns I have raised. I have received a reply from the Scottish Human Rights Commission who have confirmed they have forwarded my correspondence to their legal team. I have received a repsonse from the director of policy and strategy(appointed swine flu officer lol) in my local council who has told me that I can refuse to vaccinate my children(not that i believe this will always be the case but having it in black and white may come in useful at some point)
I have contacted newsdesks, journalists and local radio stations, some of whom have responded, I have also contacted media watchdogs over the lack of fair coverage given to the anti-vaccine campaign.

As far as the public go, then by all means get out there all guns blazing and tell them everything you believe to be the truth, but when it comes to Mp's councillors or anybody else with the slightest shred of authority then try to hit at it from an angle they will be required to respond to. Be sneaky about it. Get those in certain positions to look at this matter by any means possible. My own doctor has said to me that as far as he is concerned swine flu is just normal flu and this is all propaganda, my next quest is to get that in black and white lol. I know that in the U.K you can get the names and addresses of GP's from the NHS websites, you could start sending letters out to them, I've started to do this also.

This is obviously just in response to those addressing the immediate concerns about stopping this vaccine, but would like to point out that I am also in agreement with those saying that this is just one issue and the rest should not be ignored, there is a much bigger picture. In fact there is a slight air of hypocricy surrounding this vaccine issue as it would seem so many are now willing to take up arms and fight against this one thing when so many things in the past have never generated such a response, possibly because this may directly affect those who have in the past sat on their arse and watched other people suffer and never viewed that as THEIR immediate concern. That's not directed at anybody on the forum I just mean in general. I have never seen such a movement against any other atrocity.

Please don't jump on me for saying avoid conspiracy theories when taking action...... I only mean this to be used as a tactic and it has worked for me at least in terms of response, it also works well as leverage when I am speaking to friends/family etc, they have been more willing to listen knowing that I have been taken seriously by MP's etc. I have no way of knowing whether or not this will have any affect on the matter but I'd rather try everything and anything and end up getting nowhere that sit on my arse hoping somebody somewhere will fix it for me. I can but try!!!!!

P.S I had swine flu, strangely enough it's just like normal flu.........a rose by any other name...........:p

[funkslug]

Hows about 2 dozen worldwide tv channels that not only makes shitloads of cash to hire professional lobbyists, but, more importantly DOES N0T REQUIRE A PENNY OF ADVERTISING REVENUE..

IN PLACE OF THE ADS, WE CAN RUN OUR OWN ADS(NOT UNLIKE mtv'S MARTIAL LAW ADS): ALL SELF FUNDING......

Been trying to get into the ribs of Icke/jones/keiser but no luck yet...

And before you ask, im not a crazy; my brother is one of the worlds greatest thinkers(NO SHIT), but he's fallen for all the BS: I haven't.

So if anyone knows any of the above, or anyone else that might be interested, i have a non disclosure agreement for signing, and plenty of time to meet people.

peace x

[Jane643]

Just keep telling people that they cannot chip us all under the skin without blowing up the planet.
The radio frequencey that they would use to control everyone on the planet would cause tidal waves ect - our brains are linked to the planet.
The church put internet connections around the world in all the main points of worship and they are the vortex/meridian lines that run around the planet. The christmas day before the boxing day tidal wave the Pope transmitted a message around the world wide web and it jammed the vortex points and bang!!
Well we are at a point where history is about to repeat itself as the atlantians missused crytals on the equator and blow themselves up knocking themselves off the old equator line - and that is what we are doing - every time we go to a place of worship with a mobile phone (it has a crystal in it) we jam the meridian lines with the radio frequency. I do not think they realise yet that mobiles are tracking us but also jamming the planet and when we on mass cover the vortex points we all rock!:)I predict that if they try to chip in LA California will break off and fall into the sea

[the_doctor]

We'll never do anything individually aware of the NWO, sure we can make a small imprint but in such small numbers as we are we will never do anything in time if we stay small.

I propose that we establish a group, in which all in this group set up local meetings in local neighbourhoods and stay connected. This way all new information that we stumble across or deliberately research can be presented to each other so we can stay in the loop.

With these groups we can then assign certain roles to each member to do specific duties. The most common output of such groups that are all connected to each other across the world, will be the production of 'NWO awareness material'. In other words this material will be DVDs, small local seminars, local discussion. This way we can send out DVDs through letter boxes, you know like the avon lady with her leaflets ;)

These DVDs could have some of Davids works, I'd love to make a DVD with the Credo Mutwa interview, that interview alone was the catalyst for my awakening.

Then we can perhaps use the non-compliance strategies en mass when we are all linked together... Then if push comes to shove and our efforts have failed (worse case scenario) and the NWO is at maximum activity and they are coming to get us in FEMA camps, we can from all over the world set up an agreement with the Illuminati that if we are left alone we will not interfere with the other human beings they are meddling with (and by not interefering I mean we will be we just secretly move in the shadows against them). That strategy however probably won't be needed because we will remove the seating of the Illuminati.

So come on then, lets start this group up today. Anyone have a suggestion for the name of the group?

Also please give me your feedback on this idea, as much as possible because we don't have much time left on the clock (and Im working on that too ;) )

One final measure we could employ is that we hijack all television stations and broadcast all the info that we are aware of to the masses.

Or simply we could manufactuer some sort of device that allows us to see the chitahuri/lizards in their true form. Sort of dragging them into our 3rd dimension. I'm working on the tech. for that presently. You know, sort of like the glasses from 'They Live' (If you haven't seen that film I suggest you watch it; its a perfect example of our world we live in).

There are two methods I currently have for these 'glasses':

1: The device allows one persons view of higher dimensional particles to be transcoded into the visible light hertz frequencies. Only challenge there is finding out what particles will be absorbed and re-emitted by the sangarians/lizzies.

2: A device which I have named 'LEMON gun' (Love energy manipulator over negative) which beams a highly concentrated form of 'love energy' (probably a specific frequency of photons or electrons (Or whatever particle love energy is) directly at them which will make them lose their ability to maintain their form.

Anyway, thats that.

[rollotomaz1]

It is true that a group of people stands a much better chance of surviving any hardships or undesireable policies set by government, but when does a group become something more, of course the more there are the easier it would be to service and so on, the best way towards non compliance, is to avoid confrontation altogether and do things for yourself, because once you had won a said battle with such policies your still going to have to survive nontheless afterwards.

On the chip scenario, its easy, just say no and advise others to do the same, they cannot possibly afford in this day and age to arrest us all, it just wouldn't be feesable, best prepare yourselves for another non compliance too,

Our group consists of 3 ex military, 1 butcher, 1 shoe maker, 2 engineers, 1 doctor, 1 midwife, 3 farmers, 1 mill owner with a river, there is a good sized woodland, we are fully armed but not dangerous, legally of course and we are a rural community, most if not all of the women already make most of their own food from raw materials, along with clothing etc,

They have an arsanal of traditional enginering for making cloths and textiles and so on, along with the raw materials, we all have day jobs, but could gather at a moments notice and at least try to survive, we recon for at least 3 months from the last shop having anything to sell on its shelves.

I wouldn't know how things would pan out in a town or city, maybe we would get plenty of visitors, I don't know, money would become obsolete in the short term no matter how much you have, same goes for gold or jewelry.

But your definately going to need skilled sharers with children preferably of the ages of 12 and upwards so they could also work and the list goes on and on, there are many manuals for those with no skills etc, best to get that knowledge though and pass it on,

Our main aim is food, everthing else comes second, no food and a week without it and you wouldn't have the energy to work nor fight, we have tried it and know how soon one gets weak,

One policy we encourage others to do is prepare well in advance, how do you know you are saying, answer when this or any government starts pulling troops back home unexpectantly, but its a very small window of opertunity to get ready, remember this motto," heat is half meat", the older generation will know what this means,

A good indicator as to what could happen and to how some survived their own post oil shock, is to look up a period called "The special period" during 1990's Cuba, and they only lost half of their oil supply, albeit over night so a slow change won't be as bad, hopefully it will never come to this, but I wouldn't bank on it, what have you done to make ends meet that would help your community etc ??.

It would make more scense to chip all the filthy rich and the poloticians, so we know where to go look when we want something off them, which we made them by having the spanner in our hands as they say.

Rudyard Kiplings poem The White Mans Burden sum it all up, http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html.

cheers.

[thedisciple]

Great thread. Here's the answer, folks. Yes, peaceful non-compliance is definitely the way to go. Taking to arms in the streets will only bring the police state faster.

To beat the global elite, it takes KNOWLEDGE! These people have knowledge from the secret societies that has given them an advantage over the rest of humanity for centuries.

For the first time in history renegade members from the secret societies, who do not agree with the NWO agenda of global oppression, have come together in a counter-offensive against their masters. They are recruiting the rank and file of humanity to join them to debase the power of the elite class.

The idea is that by empowering the rest of humanity with the same secrets to which the elite have been privy, they can allow the average person to achieve the same economic clout and power that the elite have gained. The more people who know the secrets and use their economic power for noble purposes to benefit humanity, the weaker the power of the evil elite will be.

It's a fascinating concept and design. This video gives more details about it. The guy in the video mentions prayer and fasting, but I think he's doing that on his own. The organization itself is not a religious organization per se.

Here's the link for the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KFNkxyF1E

Spread the word and pass this around to as many people as you can. There are people in Bilderberg, Skull and Bones, the Freemasons, etc. who are actually on our side and fighting for us.

We will win!!!

[rollotomaz1]

There might be a little scense in all of this, some insiders do from time to time Kick back at their leaders, these are normally the guys who have been banished, maybe this guy is one, he has a merry message indeed for what people are calling the New World Order.

Some of the stuff he is coming out with if true, could get him in real rouble if what he says they do to their desserters ir real, he does however have some very juicy information real or not, go check him out at,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOI3uRggJE&feature=related

You might have to go back and forward to view all the stages though, they are a bit out of oreder on the tube,

[rollotomaz1]

thedisciple wrote: and quote:

[QUOTE=It's a fascinating concept and design. This video gives more details about it. The guy in the video mentions prayer and fasting, but I think he's doing that on his own. The organization itself is not a religious organization per se.

Here's the link for the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3KFNkxyF1E

Spread the word and pass this around to as many people as you can. There are people in Bilderberg, Skull and Bones, the Freemasons, etc. who are actually on our side and fighting for us.

We will win!!![/QUOTE]

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[myeika]

I think its a scam,


Hi rollotomaz1 and everyone….

Yep I feel you are right, just checked out the site he is talking about…

Hey for the sum of $1,000 for your Initiation Fee and then $150 monthly, you can join the first of 12 levels and start to learn how to become rich and influence others, learn the secrets of the power of attraction and become part of a pyramid scam!

I wondered how long it would be before some found a way of exploiting the situation we find ourselves in!

Many on this forum have been using the P.O.A. for a long time now…
Ohh and we know many of the secrets too….. did it cost us anything to find out? Maybe time and energy, but not MONEY!!!!

This information is free to everyone, if you have the gumption to look for it….

People, you can change your reality, you can find the answers, it is easy, you just have to change your perspective on the way you see reality! Along with the understanding that all you have been taught/told before is not quite what it seems! This is a hard thing to do for some people, but many, many people are now getting it and changing their lives, and it isn’t costing them anything….

This information is free to all, it always has been…….and with understanding and commitment to your own progress you can change everything, you just have to ‘want’ to…..There is no easy fix…..it takes a little time and commitment and also Love. But once you start, it gets easier and easier, and you will soon see how others notice the change you have become, and your reality becomes wonderful and productive!

[rollotomaz1]

Hi rollotomaz1 and everyone….

Yep I feel you are right, just checked out the site he is talking about…

Hey for the sum of $1,000 for your Initiation Fee and then $150 monthly, you can join the first of 12 levels and start to learn how to become rich and influence others, learn the secrets of the power of attraction and become part of a pyramid scam!

I wondered how long it would be before some found a way of exploiting the situation we find ourselves in!

Many on this forum have been using the P.O.A. for a long time now…
Ohh and we know many of the secrets too….. did it cost us anything to find out? Maybe time and energy, but not MONEY!!!!

This information is free to everyone, if you have the gumption to look for it….

People, you can change your reality, you can find the answers, it is easy, you just have to change your perspective on the way you see reality! Along with the understanding that all you have been taught/told before is not quite what it seems! This is a hard thing to do for some people, but many, many people are now getting it and changing their lives, and it isn’t costing them anything….

This information is free to all, it always has been…….and with understanding and commitment to your own progress you can change everything, you just have to ‘want’ to…..There is no easy fix…..it takes a little time and commitment and also Love. But once you start, it gets easier and easier, and you will soon see how others notice the change you have become, and your reality becomes wonderful and productive!

Here are a few people who are saying just that about changing your reality.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=11th+hour&emb=0#emb=0&q=11th+hour+movie&src=2

You need to watch it all,

[dolores1]

Tee shirts -

Genocide Jab
Don't get it, stay alive


Cure you? Pigs will fly first.

[rowan22]

We are the powerful ones! Make no mistake about that! Love is the strongest and most transforming power in the Universe!

Those whose heart is too full of shame to feel this, are as desperate to deceive us precisely because they fear the all encompassing power of love to sweep away their tissue paper empire. I mean this in all seriousness! Love can take a broken person and make them whole again. It can infuse a person with self belief and warmth for another person like a sunrise warms the earth.

The spiritual energy contained in one smile is enough to contact two people in a way which links them at a level of being that is stronger than steel and lighter than air. If I look into your eyes and what I see is love, I feel love reverberating through my entire being. Be the change!

No reliance on anything more complex than pure empathy and an acceptance of your own existence as a fully sentient human being is necessary. Turn away from despair, and know that the only limitation on this power is our willingness to allow its message to register in our hearts.

Dare to believe in your own soul! Not prove, believe! Only you can say if you exist! Forget the theistic dead ends!

We exist! and (we) feel love and pain and anger and all these emotions signal our right to be treated with dignity and respect. Respect born out of the knowledge of our own suffering and of our own intrinsic and natural innate humanity!

The N.W.O has nothing! nothing! on us! We are beautiful and powerful and loving beings and we don’t have to live like this anymore!

Lets come together, we of the first wave, lets do it! Lets be the ones whose presence says every day I am here and I am a Human being, and (I) have the right, because (I) exist and all which exists is reality I am real!

Laws which do not recognise this are not just, and have no ethical claim to authority.

Laws which support the intrinsic worth of human beings and all life on this planet have the same intrinsic self worth as do the beings they protect. Their authority is derived only from this and from nowhere else!

Resist by being. Smile at a stranger! Instead of blaming the beggar or the Big Issue seller see him/her as the human being he/she is, be a radical!

Open a door for someone! Say good Morning! Dare to be thought silly, by those still hypnotised under the self loathing imposed by obedience to anti humanity.

All these things communicate a profound truth of what it is to be a human being. We are together, we are all (in here) and a lot of us are in pain and don’t believe any more that good can triumph over greed and cruelty.

Take it from someone who has seen more cruelty than most can imagine, it has no power over simple kindness......none!

Love to you all.

[motokeiru]

They have more and bigger guns and you wouldn't stand a chance.


I don't mean fight a war I mean self defence as last resort, I'd rather try to escape using a small gun or die trying than being dragged to some concentration camp. It's not like it's economically viable to chasse some guys with a pistol with a tank or a plane, not unless you have a fully functional state in place funded by extortion as all states are, but when it comes to that state of chaos I think they will no longer have the resourses to do any of that.

Don't get me wrong though I love peaceful, peaceful is awsome but it isn't going to work when some governament agent comes for you it never has it never will. I think the only way to truely win freedom is to fight for it, not necessarily violently, but to win we need to get disconnected from this system unplug from the matrix and the architects aren't letting anyone off that easily it still has to be done over time and as the numbers increase their power and ability to persue people who aren't cooperating will decrease and eventually all their power will fade.

[wakeuptime]

Anyone have thoughts on avoiding the new airport security machines? With this bogus "terrorist" attack they'll try to make everyone go thru the microwave oven machines that take your naked picture and apparently alter your DNA. This is enraging. How do we wake people up to refuse this?

It's especially bad in the U.S. right now. I have to go there in a few months and want ideas on how to deal with this new tyranny. The machines have to be gotten rid of.

[jakemaverick]

I don't mean fight a war I mean self defence as last resort, I'd rather try to escape using a small gun or die trying than being dragged to some concentration camp. It's not like it's economically viable to chasse some guys with a pistol with a tank or a plane, not unless you have a fully functional state in place funded by extortion as all states are, but when it comes to that state of chaos I think they will no longer have the resourses to do any of that.

Don't get me wrong though I love peaceful, peaceful is awsome but it isn't going to work when some governament agent comes for you it never has it never will. I think the only way to truely win freedom is to fight for it, not necessarily violently, but to win we need to get disconnected from this system unplug from the matrix and the architects aren't letting anyone off that easily it still has to be done over time and as the numbers increase their power and ability to persue people who aren't cooperating will decrease and eventually all their power will fade.

well said! you want proof click the sig....

[jakemaverick]

Anyone have thoughts on avoiding the new airport security machines? With this bogus "terrorist" attack they'll try to make everyone go thru the microwave oven machines that take your naked picture and apparently alter your DNA. This is enraging. How do we wake people up to refuse this?

It's especially bad in the U.S. right now. I have to go there in a few months and want ideas on how to deal with this new tyranny. The machines have to be gotten rid of.

i wish i could suggest something more constructive than 'just don't go/ travel'.....i no longer have the choice as i am barred from leaving the country anywhere....but even if i could where could i claim asylum?

[freckles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtx77plVfvE



A call for peaceful non compliance on August 11th 2011 2mins 43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZASdC-g3Nos&feature=related

[muscltory]

Hello, I would like to remind everyone of the powers within Your Spirit. We are all Lightworkers, everyone has the power. I have heard so many times, how do we fight the dark ones? By not fighting them at all! If your car is in a garage with no windows and it is so dark you can't see it, do you need to "fight" the darkness to get to your car? No! All you need to do is turn on the lights. it is that simple. There are many Lights in our Universe to work with, and all you need to do is use your mind to turn them on. Or you can ask outloud or in your mind. When I heard Mr. Icke describe satanic rituals, the first thing I did was to fillup all the areas this occured with The White Light of the Holy Spirit. Then I envoked The Violet Flame of Transmutation to reverse all polarity from negative to positive.
When you hear of a horrible act of the dark, like the manufactured earthquake in Haiti, visualize Light everywhere affected. By illuminating the plans of the dark, you make it so much easier for the unconcious to see.
"I envoke the White Light of the Holy Spirit to fill up and surround every soldier in our Solar System." It's just that easy! Love and Blessings, Tory

[freckles]

Hello, I would like to remind everyone of the powers within Your Spirit. We are all Lightworkers, everyone has the power. I have heard so many times, how do we fight the dark ones? By not fighting them at all! If your car is in a garage with no windows and it is so dark you can't see it, do you need to "fight" the darkness to get to your car? No! All you need to do is turn on the lights. it is that simple. There are many Lights in our Universe to work with, and all you need to do is use your mind to turn them on. Or you can ask outloud or in your mind. When I heard Mr. Icke describe satanic rituals, the first thing I did was to fillup all the areas this occured with The White Light of the Holy Spirit. Then I envoked The Violet Flame of Transmutation to reverse all polarity from negative to positive.
When you hear of a horrible act of the dark, like the manufactured earthquake in Haiti, visualize Light everywhere affected. By illuminating the plans of the dark, you make it so much easier for the unconcious to see.
"I envoke the White Light of the Holy Spirit to fill up and surround every soldier in our Solar System." It's just that easy! Love and Blessings, Tory

Beautiful first post :)

[britishnick]

Not sure if this is on this thread already? but:

Non-compliance = Withdraw your consent to be governed.

There's the (hhardcore) Freeman route - where you totally remove yourself from the system and remove all beinfits.

There's a more middle of the road route "Lawful Rebellion" - again remove consent to be governed (becuase we have all inadvertantly give our consent to contract with your government and agreed to obey whatever rule / statutes / acts they make. You can also claim back your strawman (YOUR NAME IN CAPITAL LETTERS) which is the legal entity that is used to engage in all commerce (including being governed)

Still researching but lawful rebelion has given me an understanding that I have a legal fiction that I have used to contract with companies and governments (which are also corporations) without realising it, through licences, birth certificates, national insurance number (my employee number)

The more people that opt out of the system byt removing consent (sending affidats to the queen) then the less revenue the government has to act upon the masses, thus reducing their power without the need for violence.

peace

[dadada]

passive resistance - just simply not complying to what they tell us to do. if they tell us to do one thing, simply say no, thankyou and walk away because violence is definately not the answer

[jakemaverick]

passive resistance - just simply not complying to what they tell us to do. if they tell us to do one thing, simply say no, thankyou and walk away because violence is definately not the answer

not complying INCLUDES speaking to them, and when they get violent DEFEND YOURSELF!

[gtycoon]

Not sure if this is on this thread already? but:

Non-compliance = Withdraw your consent to be governed.

There's the (hhardcore) Freeman route - where you totally remove yourself from the system and remove all beinfits.

There's a more middle of the road route "Lawful Rebellion" - again remove consent to be governed (becuase we have all inadvertantly give our consent to contract with your government and agreed to obey whatever rule / statutes / acts they make. You can also claim back your strawman (YOUR NAME IN CAPITAL LETTERS) which is the legal entity that is used to engage in all commerce (including being governed)

Still researching but lawful rebelion has given me an understanding that I have a legal fiction that I have used to contract with companies and governments (which are also corporations) without realising it, through licences, birth certificates, national insurance number (my employee number)

The more people that opt out of the system byt removing consent (sending affidats to the queen) then the less revenue the government has to act upon the masses, thus reducing their power without the need for violence.

peace

I saw this on Jordan Maxell - Please explain the capital letters and how you can take it back. Please

[iknowwhatiknow]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?


I TOTALLY agree. There does need to be a coalition against the NWO/CIA/Government or whatever you want to call them.....HOWEVER, it will do no good unless we can 'awaken' as many people as we can about the truth of our existence (the lies, government cover, etc.). The more people who are aware, the easier our 'fight' will be.

Secondly, we got to understand that our main enemy is the MATRIX, not the reptilians/government. The government is in fact being maniuplated by the matrix. Also, since these 'entities' have no logic, compassion, trust, love, etc, there will be no such thing as a peaceful demonstration.However, we can wake up more people to the reality of their existence.

First, if we start this coalition, we need to make a web of support, just like the Illuminati did. But, we don't have the technology or resources to do that....unless we make a web of secret members to fund and PROTECT the whistleblowers. Do you know how hard it will be to wheen out the 'disinformation agents' and secret government from gaining access to this 'secret web'?

Secondly, we need to do it quickly and not rely so much on the Internet for our means of communication. We would need to create organizations, each with their own secret funding sources that is not seen by the government. We also need people in high places that is on our side (good side), lawyers, doctors, bankers, nurses, teachers, celebrities. We can't just rely on the Internet. Peaceful marches and public speeches need to be made.

In other words, people have to be willing to DIE for their cause. This includes torture, gangstalking, and much more. We would need our own security groups to ward off electronic weapons (also known as DEW). We talking about a lot to get to before the year 2012! Is it possible? Yep, I believe it is, but it must be done quickly....the biggest key is getting access to food, shelter, money, protection for the whistleblowers. This is the tricky part.:(

[iknowwhatiknow]

This is incredibly important and deserves all of our attention.

Can I suggest making this thread sticky as well.

I'm at a loss of how to combat this apart from increasing people's awareness and some how opting out of the monetary system without harming ourselves in the process. It could be quite easy to score an own goal if we're not careful (sorry for the negativity).

If we can decide on a definite method that works it would be very important for everyone to sing from same sheet of music, so to speak.

Something that has always stayed with me was a poster displayed in the time out and detention room where I went to school. It simply said:

“If we all work together we can totally disrupt the system”

I think I spent more time in that room then any other (The school just couldn't handle me pointing out the errors of their ways).

That's a good point you made about opting out of the monetary system. That would hit the matrix/government below the belt...however, the monetary system is already planned to be demolished. From my understanding, the NWO wants to kill off half of the population (actually over half) with some type of catasophre or 'vaccines'. This will come either shortly or before the breakdown of the monetary system. The few that do survive are to be put on the concentration camps and used as food or 'entertainment slaves'. I also heard they are planning on doing a 'mock' catasophre so people will think they are dead, or something along those lines. We need to have a MASSIVE campaign informing everyone we can about their intentions and what is going on behind the scenes.

[infinategood]

In response to your blog quote,

"so, on a personal note, I would also be very grateful to anybody out there who may be able to help me get a bank account so that I can work for a living/ try to get out of the situation that they have put me in!!!! I would also be very interested to hear from any journalists or solicitors/ lawyers that may be able to help with any of this or, at least, confirm whether or not the ‘yobs with no names’ are actually ‘legal’ in any of this…….. ;-)"

My humble suggestion is to move to Alaska and wait tables. You are a handsome guy, apart from the snow and darkness its a peaceful place...the cold weather keeps the ghouls away. NO JOKE :)

[jakemaverick]

In response to your blog quote,

"so, on a personal note, I would also be very grateful to anybody out there who may be able to help me get a bank account so that I can work for a living/ try to get out of the situation that they have put me in!!!! I would also be very interested to hear from any journalists or solicitors/ lawyers that may be able to help with any of this or, at least, confirm whether or not the ‘yobs with no names’ are actually ‘legal’ in any of this…….. ;-)"

My humble suggestion is to move to Alaska and wait tables. You are a handsome guy, apart from the snow and darkness its a peaceful place...the cold weather keeps the ghouls away. NO JOKE :)

good job i recognised my own blog......can't do that, u need a bank account to get a passport now, never mind earn money...then there is the radiation dose thing, naked piccies, iris scan fingerprinting...consent to, which i wnt and doubtful i am 'allowed' out of country now......and how do you know i'm handsome? not me in the pic (trying googling david perry) but nice to meat you cutey, presuming your pic is!

[himitsunomiko]

The most important thing to remember is that this is a spiritual battle. These outside things will help, but you can't fix the world before you yourself are fixed...

[babag]

We need to stop paying our taxes and start protesting.

Hi All.

I've become politically active in the last year and need to get a group ready for the G20 this summer. The idea is to use water guns in a form of protest. We will be squirting regular citizens as well as those in positions of authority, and will be supplying them with free T shirts that say "I got soaked because water should be free"

The idea is to highlight the NAFTA rules concerning Canadas water supply. If you haven't heard about this, essentially Canada has given up legal sovereignty over our water and given a sufficient crisis in the US, such as the draught currently in California, over 50% of our water is theirs. That's a lot of water. It's the same with all industries, but water really hits close to home.

Some facts about water: our water is polluted with chemicals because we no longer allow it to be properly filtered. For all of history until very recently, something called the water cycle filtered water through stones and soil, purifying it. The sewer system is neither as efficient nor as healthy as mother nature. The problem is that we've loaded our soil full of nasty petrochemicals that means its not even fit to filter water any more. In fact if you look at our planet we have pretty much polluted it nearly to death. The oceans water is loaded with plastic. Even the highest peaks of the Andes have trace amounts of pollution and huge amounts of radiation from all the atomic tests they secretly conducted in the 70s in outer space. Oh well, the point is we can fix all this but it will take a massive concerted effort, on the scale of finance required for a war. Luckily, we have a large navy ready for the task of dredging the oceans and we have many unemployed who could be put to use in cleaning the soil and building new infrastructure that is more efficient.

The problem is our leaders are a bunch of bankster cronie crooks with huge pockets who have never done anything without having to pay off organized crime. Our organized crime on the other hand has become so intertwined with the intelligence agencies that essentially the Hells Angels is run by the CIA. They take the majority of Canadas number one export, marijuana, and export it to the US in exchange for Cocaine, which is then sold and distributed from Canada. Boo, I hate the crappy cocaine the Hells Angels sell and the CIA remind me of Knights and Lords, above the law.

So what can we do about this?

WAKE UP! A splash of water in the face is a great way to accomplish this (I hope) and lets try and wake up as many people as possible. As you can tell I'm one to rant, but we need a focused message about water. It should be free. Or at the very least, it shouldn't be so outrageously expensive and disgusting.

Also, the US shouldn't be able to set it as a trade commodity. This land is our land and yet our state treats it like their coffers.

They can kick us off our lands, but we can stop paying their loot. Why should we pay criminals to run our society into the ground?

Does anyone have photoshop skills?

[vajra]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?
the most difficult is to bring people physical together on a single spot, that shares same thinking or ideas to do

[tabitha007]

I think the media as well as some of the alternative media is programming us to subcomb to some event. I don't know but I find it a little strange that Iran, China, Russia, US, Britian, France, and even Blackwater have been publically patrolling a small area in the Aden Sea off the coast of Yemen. Now the Gulf of mexico has been quarantined off. How stupid are we, anyway? They, the occult elite are trying, it seems, to keep this planet and its people from going through some kind of <a href=http://cognitivetransformation.com>transformation</a> I think all this fear and mixing lies with truth -- what main stream media as well some alternative media sites put out, just like a famous book I know -- is making people psychotic, fearful, and hopeless. The disinformation is rampant with things that take you in a circle and having you questioning yuourself. I mean, with how bad everything is why is some of the alternative media trying to sell us umbrellas, t shirts, gold, snake oil remedies? I feel like I am in the twilight zone, like every body else.

[h2pogo]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs346.ash1/29444_428033113707_561048707_5639618_3344877_n.jpg

If the bar-code has these numbers its from Israel

[matrixdropout]

I haven't read this all but Peaceful Non-Compliance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNDI0Bw2TMw

[iloveyoutoo]

people, are you even AWARE of what you are doing ? WHY are you doing it ? what do you believe in and depend on ? are you seeking for meaning in the objective reality ? what should you do ? does david icke know what he is doing ? do you or do you not unconsciously submit to his opinion ? what is your opinion ? do you even have your opinion ? are you a repeater ? are you a slave ? can you think for yourself ? is your personality "wise" ? are YOU your personality ? is your personality important, more important the the rest of the world ? what your personality thinks is right or wrong ? what do you THINK you know ? do you depend on the information in the objective reality ? are you better and more important than someone else ? are you running from pain and chasing pleasure ? do you want to change the world ? why do you want to change it ? how about you change YOURSELF first and then make some decisions for the world.

[is this reality]

"When are we going to down tools and en masse take 'em out?"

"How much more is humanity going to allow the ptb/governments (whatever you call them) ruin us and ruin the planet?"

"Does anyone feel it's well past the time for peaceful protest and waving bloody placards about?"

"We dont need all the materialistic bullshit, we just need shelter,warmth and food"

"Think about how old you each are at this moment and how long you realistically have left on planet Earth."

"Are you content with living out the rest of your life under an increasing opressive system run by a tiny minority of halfwits compared to the billions of people who want to enjoy earth and what's left of their lives?"

"How much more death and destruction do you need to read about on this forum in-between work,tv and sleeping before you realise times up and your too old and weak to do anything?"

"How many of you have young children and have actually given some serious consideration to the lives they are having now and will have in-light of what the ptb/governments/etc are getting away with?"

"What's it gonna take people?"

The time is :mad:NOW:mad:

Those of you that are thinking the same thing as me; we need to act NOW

I've started a seperate thread.

[level42]

David is calling on us to come together and act?Mmh,I'll get my thinking cap on,we definitely need to get things moving and actually DO something.:)

[level42]

A strategy of peaceful non-compliance?Okay,how about we all stop work en-masse and don't pay our bills collectively,just demand the right to live on earth without being crippled and struggling to survive?:D

[dusan]

A strategy of peaceful non-compliance?Okay,how about we all stop work en-masse and don't pay our bills collectively,just demand the right to live on earth without being crippled and struggling to survive?:D

that would be a great idea IF most of people think like us
but most of the people think they are fine, they just wnna make a living.
but when everyone wakes up is as easy to stop working and paying the bills?

people need to eat andd survive if you dont have food or a terrain where you can harvest some vegetables you are screw.

so its a nice thought but we need a plan. i really think that we cant save the world
but we can certainly save ourselfs and love ones! turn to agriculture and go as far from the city as you can!

[tootrue]

Here's a vid by a lovely lady on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGC1mCS4OVo&feature=PlayList&p=D726F69C8B171FD0&index=11&playnext=9

[leon11]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

+1

[leon11]

Not sure if this is on this thread already? but:

There's a more middle of the road route "Lawful Rebellion" - again remove consent to be governed (becuase we have all inadvertantly give our consent to contract with your government and agreed to obey whatever rule / statutes / acts they make. You can also claim back your strawman (YOUR NAME IN CAPITAL LETTERS) which is the legal entity that is used to engage in all commerce (including being governed)

Still researching but lawful rebelion has given me an understanding that I have a legal fiction that I have used to contract with companies and governments (which are also corporations) without realising it, through licences, birth certificates, national insurance number (my employee number)

The more people that opt out of the system byt removing consent (sending affidats to the queen) then the less revenue the government has to act upon the masses, thus reducing their power without the need for violence.

peace

will research this too


no doubt if enough of us did this though they would switch to plan b 33 and deploy the nukes / virus etc and open up the new concentration camps for the survivors

[zsymon]

Mahatma Ghandi pulled it off flawlessly, why not look at his life, read the
books or watch the movie?

He brought the world's most destructive and evil empire on its knees, all
by himself, through the power of peaceful non compliance. He had no
special powers of any kind, no power of persuasion, as others had to
speak in his place more often than not, especially at the start. He was
an amazing person, but not pure or divine, he had his flaws just like we
all do in this life, sure our flaws are only illusions, but illusions that seem
quite real at times.

We do not need to come up with some complicated ideas, just watch
the movie about his life, or read the books about his life, and you know
everything you need to know about peaceful non compliance.

The British Empire was one of the most destructive, evil and violent Empires
that have ever existed in the history of Earth, yet one single man could
bring it to its knees completely.

That is the power of peaceful non compliance. You just have to have
the balls to be the first. You are not the first though, many people in
England, America and Europe as well as across the entire world, have used
this concept to bring forth much better living and working conditions in
many areas, but the media refuses to tell their stories, as it may inspire
others to use this powerful concept as well.

No malevolent rulers of any kind, have the power to overcome the concept
of peaceful non compliance, it is the most powerful concept in the Universe
when dealing with evil overlords. It has been used on countless planets
throughout the Multiverse, to bring freedom and equality.

[noncooperation]

A strategy of peaceful non-compliance?Okay,how about we all stop work en-masse and don't pay our bills collectively,just demand the right to live on earth without being crippled and struggling to survive?:D

couldn't agree more - we outnumber these liars

[noncooperation]

I have a theory about this. Out of all the issues that we face - eg. false flag terrorism, phoney financial system, the fraudulent political system, climate change, plus too many others to mention - this is the one issue where everyone can see it coming now, where everyone is aware of what is going on, and where people have not been conditioned by propaganda. It can be tough to turn people's perception around on subjects like politics, mainstream media and money, because we're conditioned from the moment we come into being to accept these things. They haven't had the chance to do this with swine flu vaccinations, although making kids take vaccinations at a young age will have had some effect.

But the only fact that has been established in people's minds is the fact that there is a swine flu. If you just speak to people about the other facts, and keep repeating them, you have a good chance of getting through to their conscious mind. Tell them how many people have died from this, and how many more people die annually of regular influenza. Tell them about how doctors are being told to diagnose virtually anything as swine flu. Tell them what happened with the 1976 swine flu. Tell them that Baxter's are developing the vaccine, and that they previously distributed vaccine with avian flu in. Ask them if they're happy having something injected direct into their bloodstream which has been rushed through clinical tests, has been developed by a company that made a disastrous 'error' very recently, and that is composed of, well, no-one knows. This is just some suggested information, I'm sure you can all think of other points.

If we all do this in our daily life with friends, family, colleagues, just people we meet on a daily basis, then we are going to reach a lot of people, a much higher percentage than on many other topics of equal importance. I really think word of mouth can make a significant difference on this issue. I have already got through to a few people, much more easily than on other topics, and I would encourage you all to do the same. There is already a significant reaction against this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/london-times-censors-mass-opposition-to-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccine.html

And it has dawned on me recently that this issue is going to require direct action, that we're not going to be allowed to cruise along like a beachball on the ocean any longer.

Keep it simple - these people are liars.

[tootrue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2z2OBAaK6A

[rowan22]

Mahatma Ghandi pulled it off flawlessly, why not look at his life, read the
books or watch the movie?

He brought the world's most destructive and evil empire on its knees, all
by himself, through the power of peaceful non compliance. He had no
special powers of any kind, no power of persuasion, as others had to
speak in his place more often than not, especially at the start. He was
an amazing person, but not pure or divine, he had his flaws just like we
all do in this life, sure our flaws are only illusions, but illusions that seem
quite real at times.

We do not need to come up with some complicated ideas, just watch
the movie about his life, or read the books about his life, and you know
everything you need to know about peaceful non compliance.

The British Empire was one of the most destructive, evil and violent Empires
that have ever existed in the history of Earth, yet one single man could
bring it to its knees completely.

That is the power of peaceful non compliance. You just have to have
the balls to be the first. You are not the first though, many people in
England, America and Europe as well as across the entire world, have used
this concept to bring forth much better living and working conditions in
many areas, but the media refuses to tell their stories, as it may inspire
others to use this powerful concept as well.

No malevolent rulers of any kind, have the power to overcome the concept
of peaceful non compliance, it is the most powerful concept in the Universe
when dealing with evil overlords. It has been used on countless planets
throughout the Multiverse, to bring freedom and equality.

Great Post!

I feel the way forward is to utilise the "machines" own infrastructure to undermine it. The grinder likes things like pop festivals and music gatherings. So why not organise a "festival" and invite groups artists who are sympathetic to the message of peaceful none compliance?

A festival isn't a demo, and so doesn't fall under the criminal justice bill right?

But what it does do is establish a precedent for gathering large numbers of people in one place. A platform upon which to mount collective action.

Woodstock did it, why not Truthstock! We are loving people and want only peace and love to prosper. Who can, object to this?

[h2pogo]

Mahatma Ghandi pulled it off flawlessly, why not look at his life, read the
books or watch the movie?

He brought the world's most destructive and evil empire on its knees, all
by himself, through the power of peaceful non compliance. He had no
special powers of any kind, no power of persuasion, as others had to
speak in his place more often than not, especially at the start. He was
an amazing person, but not pure or divine, he had his flaws just like we
all do in this life, sure our flaws are only illusions, but illusions that seem
quite real at times.

We do not need to come up with some complicated ideas, just watch
the movie about his life, or read the books about his life, and you know
everything you need to know about peaceful non compliance.

The British Empire was one of the most destructive, evil and violent Empires
that have ever existed in the history of Earth, yet one single man could
bring it to its knees completely.

That is the power of peaceful non compliance. You just have to have
the balls to be the first. You are not the first though, many people in
England, America and Europe as well as across the entire world, have used
this concept to bring forth much better living and working conditions in
many areas, but the media refuses to tell their stories, as it may inspire
others to use this powerful concept as well.

No malevolent rulers of any kind, have the power to overcome the concept
of peaceful non compliance, it is the most powerful concept in the Universe
when dealing with evil overlords. It has been used on countless planets
throughout the Multiverse, to bring freedom and equality.


I just read Ghandis book "experiments with truth"

I think his special powers were a good understanding of god and law..and an open mind..

sounded like a nice guy:)

[lucy_brad]

Hi
Sorry I'm new to all this, why do you say to not watch violent films? I don't myself just wondered your ideas on the subject.
Many thanks

[rowan22]

Hi
Sorry I'm new to all this, why do you say to not watch violent films? I don't myself just wondered your ideas on the subject.
Many thanks

Hello Lucy and welcome. I hope no one minds my adding my take on this.

I would say that for a long time it has been well understood that human beings are very visual in our learning. The old saying "monkey see monkey do".

And although we are more complicated than your average monkey, we retain a lot of the same brain functions. When we are exposed to images, be they violent or sexual in content, we are being subliminally (unconsciously) de sensitised at an emotional level.

If you see a person get hit by a car, you are horrified right? But if you have become so used to seeing realistic scenes of torture, war and murder then your threshold for feeling empathically affected by what you see has been raised.

Psychologists call it a dissociative defence mechanism. Mechanism because it goes on largely without our knowing that it is happening. Hope this helps Rowan, and doesn't sound too patronising!

[aydindubstep]

Hold on a minute... so they get to bomb our children, rape our people, turn entire civilisations against one another and we still choose to be peaceful... there's nothing wrong with fighting, dieing for the right thing when faced with such evil. If peaceful non-compliance doesn't work, what then?

[thecreatorrocks]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

Wow what a cool post.

I dont trust the banks, I use them when I need to. Im gonna get some tees ASAP.

As far as the OPs question, its on my mind all the time. My view is that those of us who are "aware", whether it be aware of our true nature or simply aware that something big is happening, are biding our time. Whilst we bide our time we clear craploads of karma for us, and for other souls here.

This karma comes in the form of emotional challenge as that is what we have most difficulty with, being sensitive and all. The point of all this challenge is to create strength and courage so that when it is time we will be able to put forward free thinking ideals, and bring forth hidden knowledge that can enlighten and free people. ...I think maybe it will be "time" when humanity reached crisis point and is actively looking for a way out of the current materialist bent we are on. The other way that many are predicting is a shift in energy. Right now the earth is in the photon belt, and by 2012 we will automatically start shifting awareness. It would be good if it were that easy:)

If none of the above occur, the most realistic way we could change humanity would be through educating them first. About what the powers that be are actually doing. Putting forth a simple framework for a new society based on Liberty. The issue I have with this is that many souls are still not open to this idea, however I know of the hundredth monkey effect; when enough souls enlighten it enlightens the whole race. This is a solid evolutionary theory.

Any ideas for the words on the tee shirt. I have one; Lady Liberty...bit camp

[lucy_brad]

Thanks Rowan,

Yes it all makes sense, much as I thought but thanks for the reply. I hated to think I was missing something very obvious...having just woken up that would be annoying.

Thanks again, good reply, not patronising at all.

Lucy

[uselesseater]

I am going to start a website to provide creative, peaceful ways for people to come together to develop, pledge to take part, & when a critical mass of people agree to enact a particular protest action, then it is triggered & experiences / videos / lessons learnt are posted in a forum to help others learn from those that took part.

Protest marches don't work. They are easily disrupted by agent provocateurs so media & police can justify using violence on innocent people &/or discredit a movement.

We need new ways to express ourselves, involve & inform others in fun & interactive ways but that also peacefully challenge & subvert a system which is controlled by a small number of sociopaths & openly announces it's plans to enslave, degrade, terrorise & dehumanise our brothers & sisters, mothers & fathers.

The number of people pledged to a protest action would be clearly displayed & the number of people required for critical mass also.

I consider reclaiming our personal sovereignty, such as freemen to be one of the most powerful statements we as children of the creator can make.

Actions could include:

1. Consumer boycott of corporate businesses one day/week or more

2. Bank boycott. People withdraw their cash from their bank one day/month

3. Work boycott. As risk of consequences rises from action such as this, so too could the critical mass required to trigger it being enacted.

4. Tax boycott. Tax is slavery. Government has no right to collect a share of the fruits of our labour under threat of violence against us. If the mafia do the same thing it's called protection money.
Imagine 50,000/100,000/200,000 + people refusing to pay tax, or delay tax, or hold it in escrow. This will happen at some point & is one of the most powerful acts of non compliance at our disposal.

5. Small local groups could act together to engineer 'quick & dirty' protests or DVD/info giveaways in the most creative, novel, crazy, funny, moving, inspiring, dramatic ways that could be copied or adapted to make them better & better.

So 20 people could drive to a BP garage/call into Tesco/ a shopping centre near you to bring them to a standstill while free DVDs & leaflets are distributed to those affected by the action.

Music, Dancing, Art & Humour are very powerful means of communication that go under peoples radar & should be used more.

I saw one group of protesters meet somewhere with their ipods & all dance to the same song at the same time which looked amazing & really got the crowd involved & curious...

Imagine harnessing the creativity of people to develop their own means to liberate themselves from the criminals who have hijacked our institutions & government & who responsible for crimes against humanity.

Ghandi & MLK showed us how the right peaceful action can distill the hopes of millions, inspire others to stand up against the machine, & overcome this clearly overt move to world fascism.

Achtung Baby!

Really interested to hear what people think & any ideas we could use.

It's going to be called www.humanati.org & the forum will either be called useless-eaters or we-are-spartacus...

Hope to hear back from some of you & any help or ideas would be very welcome.

It is my hope that members will co create a non violent 'fight club' that will play it's part in gatecrashing & stealing back the New World Order & making friends, having fun & getting laid at the same time...

Love to all x

useless eater

[samcrow]

in reply A CALLING OF LOVE IN TRUTH AS THE VESSEL(FOLLOW YOUR HEART
THE SECRET AS THE MESSENGER ( believe with intent)
THE UNIVERSE IS OUR SOURCE(of which we all are one with)
Send a calling card to conciousness < if you truly are awake and believe you are aware of the bigger picture we need a global awakening of concioussness . The truth!! The Neo within, yet even that has flaws when it comes to reaction. the thing is will the forces wake up ?
anyway if we all wake up and our selves transcend above our conditionings of what we have learned of history of what the bankers and politicians Nwo dictators have done to our reality, in this life, to see the truth that at the end of the day the past only matters to them. thats how we r controlled ,well one of them anyway WE ARE IN THE NOW. WHEN TRUTH IS THE ONLY FORCE YOU FEAR .WHEN YOU CONQUER THAT FEAR TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED with an open mind anything is achievable. rise above our divisions of religion, our divisions of race our monetary materialistic bull that has us conned stop buying in junk food question everything(hypocrite?yeah im still learning) .

[h2pogo]

I am going to start a website to provide creative, peaceful ways for people to come together to develop, pledge to take part, & when a critical mass of people agree to enact a particular protest action, then it is triggered & experiences / videos / lessons learnt are posted in a forum to help others learn from those that took part.

Protest marches don't work. They are easily disrupted by agent provocateurs so media & police can justify using violence on innocent people &/or discredit a movement.

We need new ways to express ourselves, involve & inform others in fun & interactive ways but that also peacefully challenge & subvert a system which is controlled by a small number of sociopaths & openly announces it's plans to enslave, degrade, terrorise & dehumanise our brothers & sisters, mothers & fathers.

The number of people pledged to a protest action would be clearly displayed & the number of people required for critical mass also.

I consider reclaiming our personal sovereignty, such as freemen to be one of the most powerful statements we as children of the creator can make.

Actions could include:

1. Consumer boycott of corporate businesses one day/week or more

2. Bank boycott. People withdraw their cash from their bank one day/month

3. Work boycott. As risk of consequences rises from action such as this, so too could the critical mass required to trigger it being enacted.

4. Tax boycott. Tax is slavery. Government has no right to collect a share of the fruits of our labour under threat of violence against us. If the mafia do the same thing it's called protection money.
Imagine 50,000/100,000/200,000 + people refusing to pay tax, or delay tax, or hold it in escrow. This will happen at some point & is one of the most powerful acts of non compliance at our disposal.

5. Small local groups could act together to engineer 'quick & dirty' protests or DVD/info giveaways in the most creative, novel, crazy, funny, moving, inspiring, dramatic ways that could be copied or adapted to make them better & better.

So 20 people could drive to a BP garage/call into Tesco/ a shopping centre near you to bring them to a standstill while free DVDs & leaflets are distributed to those affected by the action.

Music, Dancing, Art & Humour are very powerful means of communication that go under peoples radar & should be used more.

I saw one group of protesters meet somewhere with their ipods & all dance to the same song at the same time which looked amazing & really got the crowd involved & curious...

Imagine harnessing the creativity of people to develop their own means to liberate themselves from the criminals who have hijacked our institutions & government & who responsible for crimes against humanity.

Ghandi & MLK showed us how the right peaceful action can distill the hopes of millions, inspire others to stand up against the machine, & overcome this clearly overt move to world fascism.

Achtung Baby!

Really interested to hear what people think & any ideas we could use.

It's going to be called www.humanati.org & the forum will either be called useless-eaters or we-are-spartacus...

Hope to hear back from some of you & any help or ideas would be very welcome.

It is my hope that members will co create a non violent 'fight club' that will play it's part in gatecrashing & stealing back the New World Order & making friends, having fun & getting laid at the same time...

Love to all x

useless eater

great first post..that's the spirit that's needed for sure..

I am sure you aware of lawful rebellion and the BCgroup ..Tpuc and the freeman stuff?

I would like to suggest to that list of not filling out their forms..or writing no consent on them...you know like tax forms and licencing forms...or just refusing to fill them in..

and not paying TV licences..

[samcrow]

Great. You are right but how is this going to stop people from taking the vaccine?

believe love, in everything that is good in your life.
follow your heart when seeking truth.
open minds come 2gether in thought process<
to create the universal thought that no one will take the vaccine . and we send that message into the universe.
Believe to Receive, Love.
blessings to our requests.

[francheska433]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?



YES i have a idea. You know that saying if you can't beat them join them, well I say in this case if you can't beat them copy them. Like in the newsletter they're is more strength in numbers. What needs to happen is people need to start getting the word out. We need to start setting up talks in the community that people can go to to learn about whats going on. We need to get money backed into it. We need to go around and tell people and get them involved first. Bring out leaflets and set up a groups in different areas of the country where people can become involved and where anyone is welcome to go and find out the truth. We need to appoint speakers and start getting money in to do this. Lets get it off the internet and out on the street. We need to buy halls where people can go. Then when people know the facts they can decide what they want to. We need to start building up a "army" Of people.

[zsymon]

Ghandi showed us all we need to know, about how to act to beat the elite.
If he can bring the British Empire to its knees all by himself, imagine what
we could do if we worked together.

The British had bombers, tanks, soldiers and machine guns.. Ghandi had a
robe he made himself.

Ghandi won.

I recommend the movie Ghandi with Ben Kingsley.

[senseifil]

one technique that is very effective, and peaceful, is an organized bank run. for it to work, it has to be alot of people, not just 200. i'm talking several 100's of thousands of people all at the same time. best is on holiday weekends. organize it so everyone goes to their local bank machine and just empty em out on a friday, those machines wont get filled again till the next business day after the weekend. if someone here writes up an article about, and everyone else networks thru facebook, youtube, twitter etc. we can actually have an effect.
everyone must understand, if this happens big enough, the banks and governments will crash and we'll all be living out of caves for a while. but the way i see, thats gonna happen anyways, all we'd be doing is speeding up the process. our flyer would have to warn ppl to stock up on food and ammo, which alot of ppl are doing already anyways.
we cant just sit here and talk about doing it, as david icke says, we have to ACTUALLY do it.
so whose up for it?

[zsymon]

I am, if I would have a bank account. :p

[senseifil]

I am, if I would have a bank account. :paye, i also dont keep money in the bank anymore. thats fine if u dont, ya can still help with networking the message out.
any good writers here wanna type up a good poster for it? dont need to be extensive or anything, we just need to pick a date (long holiday weekend is best) and the warning about stocking up food etc. 1 short paragragh should do. the big effort is spreading it,thats what we neeed lots of ppl here to help with.

[the lorax]

aye, i also dont keep money in the bank anymore. thats fine if u dont, ya can still help with networking the message out.
any good writers here wanna type up a good poster for it? dont need to be extensive or anything, we just need to pick a date (long holiday weekend is best) and the warning about stocking up food etc. 1 short paragragh should do. the big effort is spreading it,thats what we neeed lots of ppl here to help with.

i haven't read this whole thread yet (i'm more posting to subscribe to the thread than anything for when i have time to read it all) but i just wanted to jump in point out that if you're absolutely serious about this, you can't do it through here, it's too easy to watch and track us on the DI forum. It needs to be done anonymously, incognito and in an untraceable manner or you and everyone you know if FUCKED. i think the banks would catch on fast and just shut off their machines too. it's a good idea in theory but it shouldn't be the only thing to be done during such an act of mass noncompliance. you need to hit them from multiple angles so to speak to keep 'em on their toes.

[zsymon]

I agree that we need to start coming together and actually do things. I don't
know if this idea is the best, but it's important we start to join up to actually
make plans, or have debates, about joining forces.

[rick_m]

I thought I would add a link here as it feels quite relevent to a project that promotes peaceful non-compliance.

www.unitedwestrike.com

"WE the PEOPLE" Declare Our INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY & GOD GIVEN RIGHTS
We will no longer participate in wars that profit the global powers at the expense of the people.
We will no longer hand over the fruits of our labour to those who abuse and misuse us.
We will not submit to Global Government or Tyranny or Facism.
We will stand as ONE and withdraw support from Governments Gone Wild.
We will Create A Future We Can ALL Live In

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aK_0hifVQ0&feature=player_embedded

On the 15th of every month we are running a 24hr INTERNATIONAL radio marathon and asking people not to go to work, not to spend money.

Don’t buy

Don’t comply

Ask Why

The 15th October will mark our 3rd show, please join us...

[clive w]

I were "unemployed" for 2 years - without money from the state n stuff.
Everyone who got support from friends n stuff should do some time-outs.
Don´t go to work is a fat kick in the ass for the system... but for the most of the people it is difficult to handle (family etc).

Other points:

- stop eating flesh.
- stop smoking.
- stop driving car.
- stop act like a reptilian.

And the most important point

- start being your true self.

Hehe. ;)

Interesting thead btw... some brilliant posts over here. Thx folks.

[trilloski]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

Yeah tell me about it, what i thought could happen, is writing on money? Writing on money IS NOT illegal?

[realview]

Well at one of the plantations (uSA) the RAP is moving forward despite it's many culling efforts over the months. Just as Indian reservations have their own laws, people in the new RAP are moving to identify themselves as belonging to a separate government. It is currently established in the HAIG and there is growing support by Sheriffs for this NRAP (not trap, crap or frap). In the supposed near future, a person who signs the paperwork to be a "Citizen" so to speak of the NRAP then they will be outside of the authority of the USA corporate system.

Not sure how quickly someone can have their child signed up as an Secured Party Creditor but that would certainly help. The problem is that if the child has a birth certificate and the parents have a marriage license then the "Product of the Union is the property of the state". (under fraud of course). If the parents did not file a birth certificate then the state would have to give the child back as it wouldn't be a debtor of the system. If the parents filed a birth certificate but had time to file an SPC for the child then the state would be in some trouble as the child would be a creditor of the system.

Of course if the system moves to totalitarianism then all bets are off.

The NRAP has tried to move small sums of gold into the states to fund them but Homeland Insecurity has stolen it despite their "status".

[brunster]

I like the idea of getting messages out on Banknotes. What would we put? It would need to be short and snappy or a web address maybe??
I'm hunting out my indellible felt tip :)

[one666]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

Too late. its all or nothing.

[pennydrop]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

Nice one :)

[skylight]

This forum I'm in is about PRACTICAL matters, about how we can BE the change needed, and this is useful. But I must admit though that the 'headlines' section of David Icke's website reads, in general, more horrifically than the most gory newspaper in terms of the emotions of outrage it produces. I'm going to stop reading these 'headlines' and just come to forums like this one where CONSTUCTIVE things are discussed. I wonder if anyone else has wondered if David (whom I still, at heart, admire greatly) is actually 'on the other side'...(!) and by focussing too much on the problems, and not enough on the solutions, just gets people (like us, who care) angrier with all that is wrong with the world? I don't know, I have conflicting emotions. Anyway, it was D.Icke who kind of got me suspicious of the elite's clever tactics in the first place...so now I really read between the lines, no matter who writes them...

[earthicastar]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/earthica/willpeacefullyrefuse.jpg

[skylight]

...I'm still an admirer of David Icke (I dont see him, or anyone else, as infallible, however - including me); but I am questioning EVERYTHING now and I feel like I am in a 'hall of mirrors'.

I wish to see the corrupt system done away with (NONviolently) as much as anyone else here. I wish for us to begin embodying the changes we need to bring this about.

But those 'headlines'...so depressing, so conducive to outrage! And the titles and pictures, so graphic and shocking sometimes! Why does David put them there? Just wondering...(has anyone else had doubts about David's real intent, or if he is actually 'disinfo' (though I don't feel that one)...?? Because what we focus on increases...and if we focus on outrage, even understandable outrage, we just increase our inner anger...

[noncooperation]

Originally Posted by spiritist http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1132389#post1132389)
Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.


YEAH YEAH YEAH
+1 +1 +1
think what would happen (& what 'wouldn't' have happened) if we all lived by this?!?
energy to you
energy to all who practice just one of these points.
yeah . . . .

[one666]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

There's a fuckin surprise, i believe we've all known that for years. non compliance won't work. Its all or nothing. The trouble is that there are too many people quite happy sitting on their arses just discussing and complaining about things they know they don't have the balls to sort out.

[one666]

If they for example will announce making some vaccinations mandatory, we could create a viral campaign on the Web against the announcement. If successful, such campaign can spread like a wildfire.

The worlds full of if's isn't it.

[trumancash]

Originally Posted by spiritist http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1132389#post1132389)
Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.


YEAH YEAH YEAH
+1 +1 +1
think what would happen (& what 'wouldn't' have happened) if we all lived by this?!?
energy to you
energy to all who practice just one of these points.
yeah . . . .

That's pretty good advice. Right now in the US you can't get a driver's license, business license, professional license, bank account, etc. without a social security number. Why?--Because of US Code Title 42, Section 666. No kidding! Here's a link to a web page about it: http://healthfreedom.info/mark_of_the_beast.htm

Remember the movie "The Truman Show"? Truman was the first human being who was adopted by a corporation. Well guess what?--The Social Security Administration is a corporation. It is not located in Washington D.C. It is located in Baltimore, Maryland. Unlike the government it does not have franking privileges; it has to purchase postage for its mailings.

I'm not like most people, I don't just talk the talk. Here's some additions I'd like to make to your list--for people in the US--which I have fully implemented in my life.

Revoke your Social (in)Security number, driver's license, etc. The Social Security system is a voluntary contract. Revoke it on the basis of fraud, etc. The 13th amendment to the US Constitution prohibits slavery and "involuntary servitude".

Stop filing/paying the IRS. According to a form letter from the Social Security Administration, the IRS has jurisdiction over the SS Administration. Payments to the IRS go into the Federal Reserve Banking system "FRB" (look at the back of checks paid to the IRS).

Find someone that you can trust who is in the system that you can interface with.

Close your bank account and everything else connected with your SS number.

Discontinue use of Federal Reserve Notes. This is, by legal definition, not money (See "money" in Black's Law Dictionary).

Use only coins to purchase things. A US-minted coin is money (even the copper/nickel ones) and it is not part of the privately-owned and controlled Federal Reserve Bank. If you need to buy online, give your interface the coins and let them order.

If we are the change we've been waiting for, then let's start being that change. Walk the walk.

[ozpixie]

...I'm still an admirer of David Icke (I dont see him, or anyone else, as infallible, however - including me); but I am questioning EVERYTHING now and I feel like I am in a 'hall of mirrors'.

I wish to see the corrupt system done away with (NONviolently) as much as anyone else here. I wish for us to begin embodying the changes we need to bring this about.

But those 'headlines'...so depressing, so conducive to outrage! And the titles and pictures, so graphic and shocking sometimes! Why does David put them there? Just wondering...(has anyone else had doubts about David's real intent, or if he is actually 'disinfo' (though I don't feel that one)...?? Because what we focus on increases...and if we focus on outrage, even understandable outrage, we just increase our inner anger...

The images and stories are reports of the unfolding agenda. I struggle with it also but it also reminds me that there is much to be done if we are to communicate these events to those who are still unaware of what is happening.

In terms of David's work, the vast majority of people in this Forum regard him with the highest respect and even love. His generous provision of this Forum which allows us to express our thoughts and potential solutions to the world's problems is extremely valuable and much appreciated. We find it offensive when posts are made that bring David's integrity or intent into question. It is also a breach of the forum guidelines.

[jimj_wpg]

...I'm still an admirer of David Icke (I dont see him, or anyone else, as infallible, however - including me); but I am questioning EVERYTHING now and I feel like I am in a 'hall of mirrors'.

I wish to see the corrupt system done away with (NONviolently) as much as anyone else here. I wish for us to begin embodying the changes we need to bring this about.

But those 'headlines'...so depressing, so conducive to outrage! And the titles and pictures, so graphic and shocking sometimes! Why does David put them there? Just wondering...(has anyone else had doubts about David's real intent, or if he is actually 'disinfo' (though I don't feel that one)...?? Because what we focus on increases...and if we focus on outrage, even understandable outrage, we just increase our inner anger...

Just as shocking and negative is the "Today's News" and "General" groups in this forum.

It's always about Iran, Iraq, Wikileaks :eek: or something from the MSM. So much negative energy in those topics.

I just stay out of those, and focus on the others that I have a say about through my own experience - Physical Health, and Spirituality. I like reading Zysmon's encounters in the astral plane, and others who have written about herbs and how various herbs have healed them. That's great stuff.

[jimj_wpg]

If we are the change we've been waiting for, then let's start being that change. Walk the walk.

Ummm, it's actually better to say:

Walk the Talk.

Heard lots of talks on It's a New Day (religious tv program from Winnipeg, Canada) saying the above. Walk the Walk is hypocritical where someone says they're gonna do something and it doesn't get done.

[freeyourmindfreeyourself]

Is this a David Icke forum, people actually putting forward practicle ideas to common problems:eek: Well I guess stranger things have happened;)

[noncooperation]

The images and stories are reports of the unfolding agenda. I struggle with it also but it also reminds me that there is much to be done if we are to communicate these events to those who are still unaware of what is happening.

In terms of David's work, the vast majority of people in this Forum regard him with the highest respect and even love. His generous provision of this Forum which allows us to express our thoughts and potential solutions to the world's problems is extremely valuable and much appreciated. We find it offensive when posts are made that bring David's integrity or intent into question. It is also a breach of the forum guidelines.

Well said, thank you :)

[signalnorth]

Yeah tell me about it, what i thought could happen, is writing on money? Writing on money IS NOT illegal?

"Fuck the Royal wedding" would be a popular banknote addition I would think.

It's big beyond words in Iran this form of protest.. See this link

http://payvand.com/blog/blog/2009/11/16/exhibit-iranian-banknotes-uprising/

[wounded dragon]

Hiya Folks…

On reading David’s Newsletter tonight I felt I had to make this post!

I have had a look round to see if I could see another one and couldn’t so here goes…

In the Newsletter it says:

“This is a time for like-minded people to come together in mutual support and to prepare a strategy of peaceful non-compliance. There is far more strength in numbers than doing this alone.”


The way things are going, maybe we should start this sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t know where we could start, but I am sure that many of you have an idea!

So I think this is a good idea, and will help all I can!

What do you all think?

i really like your tag, i think you are too gentle, tell em to leave divine creation to the divine creator

[little asa]

Never use a debit card.

Always use cash.

Never use a loyalty card.

Put false info out about yourself on the net.

Use lots of aliases where legal.

Get a t-shirt printed with a non-compliance message.

Don't eat crap food.

Grow some of your own if possible.

Challenge parking fines, council tax etc. under the freeman idea.

Tell everyone about the control of our world by the few.

Do not vote. Do not vote. Do not VOTE.

Don't watch violent movies.

Discuss religious fraud.

DIspaly your emotions.

Demonstrate and protest on a singular basis.

WIthdraw all your dosh from the banks and watch the poisoned system disappear.

Don't let them put fear into you.

Etc. etc.

What about the old fashion barter system? Labor is property, Your body is your property. We exchange our property for property(money) that is worth little to nothing.
Tell your employer that u want to be paid in Food, Gas etc. be creative, we can out think these snakes. Tell him he can deduct it directly from his corporate expense to the business. He should like that. Do not deduct money from my check to send to the bankers market. Keep it with in the business. We will both keep track of it. Payable the last day of employment. Educate, Educate, Educate

[kobe christ]

If they for example will announce making some vaccinations mandatory, we could create a viral campaign on the Web against the announcement. If successful, such campaign can spread like a wildfire.

And what are you gonna do when they show up at your door, grab you and inject the vaccines themselves?

WTF is anyone gonna do in that regards?


WOW....a PEACEFUL revolution?? holy shit that is cotton soft.

[griswald]

And what are you gonna do when they show up at your door, grab you and inject the vaccines themselves?

WTF is anyone gonna do in that regards?


WOW....a PEACEFUL revolution?? holy shit that is cotton soft.


I cant speak for anyone else. But when that happens, I,m going to fight , or die fighting to protect my self and family. No one is going to inject me, if I can do anything about it.

griswald

[drala]

I totally agree that the time is now for people to work together and show that we are not accepting the rules/laws and regualtions put upon us daily, we have to stand together - United.

[futurestar]

I totally agree that the time is now for people to work together and show that we are not accepting the rules/laws and regualtions put upon us daily, we have to stand together - United.

I agree guys i want to help people come together and be free we are all in this together

www.awakenedpeople.org
peace
together we can make change

[man with no name]

I totally agree that the time is now for people to work together and show that we are not accepting the rules/laws and regualtions put upon us daily, we have to stand together - United.

I hate bubble bursting.

but there are still enough politically active brain dead stuffing out there to incremental legislate to make something like this legally mandatory. Here's how it's done. You stage a epidemic of flu to world wide proportion it becomes a health emergency. Make sure you have an infrastructure to mass vaccinate in place. Have a state of public disorder where the army is ever present and ready to use. Have enough disinformation to say the people that don't vaccinate are putting your world at risk. Grass on your neighbor policy. Use some visual way of marking who is injected and can be sold food and who can't and bobs your uncles gay lover. Unless your name is squirrel and you live very close to amazingly tall trees we'll all be rounded up and made into zombies. We have to sabotage these agenda and be as cunning as they are. Teach everyone they deserve to own their own lives. Show people what life was like. Light the fuse and stand back it's coming.

[wounded dragon]

time to fight them back, beware and be careful, they are great at disguise and steal peoples spirits to get the innocence in trouble and to stop ttheir troubles going to their own souls , they want to destroy hell so as not to have to feel the pain from the bad stuff their own spirirts did before they started to uses others spirits to take out some of the cult memebers so they didn't have to share so much when they want it all to themselves, many now vying for top position and many could make it.... then one will recieve ALL good from controlled sources while they manifest bad for everyone else, thhis could be torture and torment getting worse for everybeing in existance except one until he or her that 'winss' destroys all and is left in void with only what he or she creates, be bold, if trouble doesn't bother you, then still bother it


IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME ALL MUST LEARN THE PISCEAN AGE LESSON AND THE DESTROYED AGE OF AQUARIUS LESSON ALSO SO ALL CAN BE DIVINE

BUT FIRST WE HAVE A BATTLE ON OUR HANDS STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT BE FAIR RATHER THAN GENEROUS, TOUGH LOVE LUVS, don't let em get away with any of it, use the law, the ombudsmen, legal aid, the media art, music

Universal law is changing very rapidly but basically it is THE BEST POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE ENTIRE EXISTANCE AT ALL TIMES (this may include lying on the couch thinking) :D

Nature is the way, don't affect your natural behaviour or thoughts, nature knows best just do what you do while having the best intent then check for mistakes afterwards

[piggybilling]

Well I'm still in the money system(until the tunnel is finished!), And believe we can also take their energy, as well as just them taking ours.

Stick with nature, and mix it up!,
Just because bad things can happen, Doesn't mean they will.

Get used to thinking outside of yourself, As that's the real key to not being tracked.
I wouldn't worry about the internet I.D and personnel information too much.
As Everything is most likely being monitored.
When things start to happen, you won't be any where near your old internet life,mobile,tv,etc
(why do you think they have got rid of Morse code?)

As for vaccines, If it ain't broke don't fix it!

[wounded dragon]

Hard For You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3VTxdMNhb8&feature=related

:rolleyes:

[bootneckband]

Take a walk from lands end to john o groats.....then discuss en route.

stay in tents, fields,wherever...get some permission,everyone clear up thier own mess.Bring a guitar or two....man even write some songs...

This will defo get noticed in itself and at least people from uk and nearby can hook up at where they are.Meet,chat,even fucking meditate....The die hards can do the whole journey.

Even old Ickey could do couple miles eh.

As the Eels said..

'A careful man dodges the bullets,while a happy man takes a walk.'

This is the way forward folks!!!!!!!!!!.....Everyone can personally get sponsored from mates for the train journey and booze....i mean grub.

I will help organise......anyone else..

The...(Run Forest Run) walk for truth....

[wounded dragon]

my old local pub

when we first met you were just nineteen
the prettiest little girl that i'd ever seen yes you was
Now i'm turning fourty and you're just twenty two
your leaving me baby cos i been hurting you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aES0RzjnoBQ

[snakesnladders]

Depends what you're peacfully non complying against though i guess.

If it's fourth dimensional entities that just need to learn about love, then it might work. hope so..

if it's reptile aliens from another planet that need to hunt humans for food (like we do to cows) then im not so sure if peaceful non compliance is gonna work.

not trying to be negative; just think people shud keep their wits about them. don't follow blindly like sheep. don't follow ANYONE blindly.

[maxinatlanta]

How about this peaceful non-compliance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQkZA4s7IOs)?

[black_widow]

PEACEFUL NONCOMPLIANCE? HA HA HA! pardon my french but bullshit. the only way to defeat the enemy is a violent revolution, in which the people overthrow the conspirators and start a new law system that is just and fair but to be perfectly honest i dont think the new world order will back down to a punch of sign toting, hippies

THE SOLUTION TO THIS POLLUTION IS REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!

[deadhawk]

What do you all think?

stop paying tax.
This was posted a while ago in an other thread:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cQBY0ZO2Rc&feature=player_embedded



What did William Wallace do???

Fail.

[noncooperation]

Don't forget violence will give them more excuses to implement a police state! i think the solution is everyone doing what they can to NOT SUPPORT the system in anyway they can. A bit of violence here & there will probably help get the word out but until the majority start acting in some way they will keep going with their agenda. Its a do or die situation they are in; they can't turn back, only the majority can stop them.
PEACEFUL NONCOMPLIANCE? HA HA HA! pardon my french but bullshit. the only way to defeat the enemy is a violent revolution, in which the people overthrow the conspirators and start a new law system that is just and fair but to be perfectly honest i dont think the new world order will back down to a punch of sign toting, hippies

THE SOLUTION TO THIS POLLUTION IS REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!

[black_widow]

listen to me "noncooperation" i dont think you get they will always have a police state. it does not matter if we give them excuses or not they will not hesitate to kill peacefull noncompliers, the only way to survive is fight back

[noncooperation]

listen to me "noncooperation" i dont think you get they will always have a police state. it does not matter if we give them excuses or not they will not hesitate to kill peacefull noncompliers, the only way to survive is fight back NO, i won't listen to you. one solution is to get free energy out to everyone.

[black_widow]

heres the thing though, if they come to my house to put me in a FEMA camp im going to fight back i will not jump in and attack anyone... because to be honest i dont know who is on whos side

[thecatsmeow]

To free ourselves we must find a way to have them relinquish control over us. The biggest controller is money. We must become as self-sufficient as possible so that we have no reason to depend upon the present system of government. The best way to do this is create our own sources of water, food and fuel, etc. I believe this to be a necessary first step and then we can set a date when we all stay at home, perhaps for one Friday and Monday, to begin with, making it a long weekend for a massive strike of the general population. Then, perhaps, successive strikes of longer and longer duration and watch the system unravel before our eyes. What do you think?

[thecatsmeow]

i haven't read this whole thread yet (i'm more posting to subscribe to the thread than anything for when i have time to read it all) but i just wanted to jump in point out that if you're absolutely serious about this, you can't do it through here, it's too easy to watch and track us on the DI forum. It needs to be done anonymously, incognito and in an untraceable manner or you and everyone you know if FUCKED. i think the banks would catch on fast and just shut off their machines too. it's a good idea in theory but it shouldn't be the only thing to be done during such an act of mass noncompliance. you need to hit them from multiple angles so to speak to keep 'em on their toes.


We could use a computer genius to create a network and a gadget that the people, but not the governments, have access to.

[thecatsmeow]

I am going to start a website to provide creative, peaceful ways for people to come together to develop, pledge to take part, & when a critical mass of people agree to enact a particular protest action, then it is triggered & experiences / videos / lessons learnt are posted in a forum to help others learn from those that took part.

Protest marches don't work. They are easily disrupted by agent provocateurs so media & police can justify using violence on innocent people &/or discredit a movement.

We need new ways to express ourselves, involve & inform others in fun & interactive ways but that also peacefully challenge & subvert a system which is controlled by a small number of sociopaths & openly announces it's plans to enslave, degrade, terrorise & dehumanise our brothers & sisters, mothers & fathers.

The number of people pledged to a protest action would be clearly displayed & the number of people required for critical mass also.

I consider reclaiming our personal sovereignty, such as freemen to be one of the most powerful statements we as children of the creator can make.

Actions could include:

1. Consumer boycott of corporate businesses one day/week or more

2. Bank boycott. People withdraw their cash from their bank one day/month

3. Work boycott. As risk of consequences rises from action such as this, so too could the critical mass required to trigger it being enacted.

4. Tax boycott. Tax is slavery. Government has no right to collect a share of the fruits of our labour under threat of violence against us. If the mafia do the same thing it's called protection money.
Imagine 50,000/100,000/200,000 + people refusing to pay tax, or delay tax, or hold it in escrow. This will happen at some point & is one of the most powerful acts of non compliance at our disposal.

5. Small local groups could act together to engineer 'quick & dirty' protests or DVD/info giveaways in the most creative, novel, crazy, funny, moving, inspiring, dramatic ways that could be copied or adapted to make them better & better.

So 20 people could drive to a BP garage/call into Tesco/ a shopping centre near you to bring them to a standstill while free DVDs & leaflets are distributed to those affected by the action.

Music, Dancing, Art & Humour are very powerful means of communication that go under peoples radar & should be used more.

I saw one group of protesters meet somewhere with their ipods & all dance to the same song at the same time which looked amazing & really got the crowd involved & curious...

Imagine harnessing the creativity of people to develop their own means to liberate themselves from the criminals who have hijacked our institutions & government & who responsible for crimes against humanity.

Ghandi & MLK showed us how the right peaceful action can distill the hopes of millions, inspire others to stand up against the machine, & overcome this clearly overt move to world fascism.

Achtung Baby!

Really interested to hear what people think & any ideas we could use.

It's going to be called www.humanati.org & the forum will either be called useless-eaters or we-are-spartacus...

Hope to hear back from some of you & any help or ideas would be very welcome.

It is my hope that members will co create a non violent 'fight club' that will play it's part in gatecrashing & stealing back the New World Order & making friends, having fun & getting laid at the same time...

Love to all x

useless eater
Wow! What a lot of brilliant and creative ideas you have! One thing I'd like to know, though, is why some of you feel it necessary to create another website/forum: can we not just count the members on here and then we'll have some idea of how many of us are on board, so to speak?

[black_widow]

thecatsmeow i just wanted to tell you what i think firstly i dont think that they will hesitate to kill peaceful noncompliers secondly, i dont think that skipping work would damage the new world order, after all they want to kill all but 500 million of us

[moss318]

Super Glue + Metal + Symbolism= Shut down citys with an artistic ripple effect.

Fancy dress.

Seems peaceful enough to me.

[thecatsmeow]

thecatsmeow i just wanted to tell you what i think firstly i dont think that they will hesitate to kill peaceful noncompliers secondly, i dont think that skipping work would damage the new world order, after all they want to kill all but 500 million of us

It is up to each individual to make a decision and, whilst I empathise and understand your concerns, yes some of us may face imprisonment or even death. If slavery or being turned into a machine is preferable then I won't pass judgement on whoever chooses that path. It's not for me and neither is violence as it only drags you down to their level.

[black_widow]

It is up to each individual to make a decision and, whilst I empathise and understand your concerns, yes some of us may face imprisonment or even death. If slavery or being turned into a machine is preferable then I won't pass judgement on whoever chooses that path. It's not for me and neither is violence as it only drags you down to their level.

just wanted to make sure you knew the risks because i do agree i would rather die than submit so i see what youre saying i just have my own ideas about what needs to be done