Has PC gone over the top?

[curtaincat]

This is the first time that I have noticed this.

In my latest dole form, on question 3.. Did your partner ( married, registered partner or de facto of the opposite sex or same-sex) do any work in this period

hello??? this is like something out of a Sue Townsend novel,,, like "the Queen and I" would have written, and now it is ... real life? what a joke..

so .. who thinks this is right... wrong... funny.... a joke.. a lot of crap...

I didn't do a poll because.. imo... this is crap, soz, but the ptb doing this PC stuff is beyond a joke.

( and to all the goody goodies out there), I finally received my latest certificate saying how wonderful I was in my latest qualification, ) :eek:


Fuck 'em I say, and have another smoke. ;) :)
see, I am brilliant, but they still wont have me as a good little slave... ! :p

[wise haven]

This is the first time that I have noticed this.

In my latest dole form, on question 3.. Did your partner ( married, registered partner or de facto of the opposite sex or same-sex) do any work in this period

hello??? this is like something out of a Sue Townsend novel,,, like "the Queen and I" would have written, and now it is ... real life? what a joke..

so .. who thinks this is right... wrong... funny.... a joke.. a lot of crap...

I didn't do a poll because.. imo... this is crap, soz, but the ptb doing this PC stuff is beyond a joke.

( and to all the goody goodies out there), I finally received my latest certificate saying how wonderful I was in my latest qualification, ) :eek:


Fuck 'em I say, and have another smoke. ;) :)
see, I am brilliant, but they still wont have me as a good little slave... ! :p

You are not authorised to give information regarding a third party. For a start if you sign a statement attesting the information you have provided for another person you can be held liable for fraud if it turns out that what you stated was not actually true.

When you apply for benefits- you can only attest to what you know about yourself. All the rest is hearsay.

Don't fall into the trap of providing info about other people you have no control over.

Believe me, I spent over an hour supporting someone in this same situation. They constantly tried to get the claimant to state a falsehood. "Just to make it easy" You cannot testify the truth about someone else, no matter how hard they try. I kept asserting that they are attempting to get the client to state a falsehood. It's all on tape (make sure you do the same)

You cannot state the truth about something that you do not know, for a fact, is the truth.

[curtaincat]

You are not authorised to give information regarding a third party. For a start if you sign a statement attesting the information you have provided for another person you can be held liable for fraud if it turns out that what you stated was not actually true.

When you apply for benefits- you can only attest to what you know about yourself. All the rest is hearsay.

Don't fall into the trap of providing info about other people you have no control over.

Believe me, I spent over an hour supporting someone in this same situation. They constantly tried to get the claimant to state a falsehood. "Just to make it easy" You cannot testify the truth about someone else, no matter how hard they try. I kept asserting that they are attempting to get the client to state a falsehood. It's all on tape (make sure you do the same)

You cannot state the truth about something that you do not know, for a fact, is the truth.

Thanks very much , wisehaven, but this is my partner, we are living in sin, so to speak, so i know we are both seeking slave crap - - - because we need the money, the dosh, the cash, the dollars, the moolah, smackaroonies, the big bucks, all that stuff!!! Eeek! ( all to pay for basic rights to live, such as water, gas, elec, etc )

Thanks for your post, although it was about the PC stuff, that amazed me.!

I will be in the dole office tomorrow, best dressed. lol

[wise haven]

If you are not legally married do not allow them to financially link you together - because the only benefit of that is to their benefit.

They save money by getting people to self link even though they do not have a legal partnership. This way they get to pay you less benefit.

Until two adults form a legal partnership (marriage or civil partnership) they are totally financially independent and should be treated as such under benefit law.

Being two independent financial beings will increase your income by approximately one third.

[curtaincat]

If you are not legally married do not allow them to financially link you together - because the only benefit of that is to their benefit.

They save money by getting people to self link even though they do not have a legal partnership. This way they get to pay you less benefit.

Until two adults form a legal partnership (marriage or civil partnership) they are totally financially independent and should be treated as such under benefit law.

Being two independent financial beings will increase your income by approximately one third.

wisehaven, thanks , but that is not the case in Oz... ( maybe i should have said that before you went to all the trouble and kindness to tell me)


unless you know more than me, that would be great.

so, we are stuffed by the system, as far as i can work out.

thanks so much for helping...i dont think the system is the same in Oz.


( I think they are developing heaps of swine ful vacines, if that is any help, hahaaa! maniacal laugh ...

yep, they are trying their best to poison everyone.. eek.:eek:

this is so off topic. soz :o

[wise haven]

OK CC - My fault, I went off on one even though in the back of my mind I knew your wuz and Aussie :D

Maybe some of the Brits might take note.......it's out there.

(Don't) keep taking the medicine.......... :)

[unusual_suspect]

If you are not legally married do not allow them to financially link you together - because the only benefit of that is to their benefit.

They save money by getting people to self link even though they do not have a legal partnership. This way they get to pay you less benefit.

Until two adults form a legal partnership (marriage or civil partnership) they are totally financially independent and should be treated as such under benefit law.

Being two independent financial beings will increase your income by approximately one third.

Thanks,interesting information, they keep well quiet about that don't they.

[curtaincat]

Thanks,interesting information, they keep well quiet about that don't they.

Now, i wonder if this should be put in the Freeman section...

soz, posted in the wrong thread.

It still might be worth moving there because "wise haven" put in some good information, and advice ! :cool:


Please mods , move it :)

I got to be careful where I post, i know... but there is good advice from "wise haven' for Everyone :cool:

[tracker]

You are not authorised to give information regarding a third party. For a start if you sign a statement attesting the information you have provided for another person you can be held liable for fraud if it turns out that what you stated was not actually true.

When you apply for benefits- you can only attest to what you know about yourself. All the rest is hearsay.

Don't fall into the trap of providing info about other people you have no control over.



this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is very true .

once a council official came round where I live and askedme if my partner was at home .
I told them that she was not but any questions can be given to me because I was the soul bread winner and I pay all the bills and rent .
they said

Council official ) -------- Im sorry but your not the tennent , Ms ???? is the tennent and to give anything away breaks the privacy laws

ME ) OK , you have me down as a partner , and in law a partner means I have an equal right and say over what happens here , so since I am paying you , you will come to me thankyou .

council official ) Im sorry but I am not allowed to converse with you matters that concern Ms ?????

Me ) fine ! be that way . I will stop paying rent , and in the mean time if you ask her how much Im earning and wether I work or not , both you and her will be guilty of breaking the privacy laws because you are not allowed by law to ask for information regarding 3rd parties , also , under no cercumstances is she allowed to give you any information about me and that definately includesd how much I earn . that is breaking the law especially if you profit from this information with out my concent



Ok I might have been wrong in a few places but you get where I was going with that .
It is actually wrong for any council or job aplication or even benifits form to ask you for your
bank accounts
information regarding 3rd parties

it is in a sense fraudulent and unwarrented because it breaks confidential privacy laws .

they must ask the 3rd party ------------them self .

as did in the end I made the council accept that if they wanted info from Sharon about me , that I refuse to allow her to have that info and that they MUST APROACH ME ----------------IF THEY WANT TO KNOW ----------ABOUT ME .

It actually gave some good results too in the end .

lots of bloody time waisting forms though , and letters , but it did work .

:cool:

[gonzo75]

Political correctness is designed to actually STOP us from communicating in any way. Its parameters are expanded constantly and its philosphy even encompasses thought. It gathers pace everyday and we are hurtling toward a society where the will be NOTHING you can say, think or feel that is deemed correct. The worst thing about it is that WE are the people that police this ridiculous philosophy.:mad:

[mr fiddler]

In my latest dole form, on question 3.. Did your partner ( married, registered partner or de facto of the opposite sex or same-sex) do any work in this period:p


Here we go again, another work-shy dosser, enthusiastically criticising the very system that befits one with the life of Riley.

Its all about "Screw the system" and "im no slave" until its time to greedily cash that stinking, grubby giro.

[mark1963]

Here we go again, another work-shy dosser, enthusiastically criticising the very system that befits one with the life of Riley.

Its all about "Screw the system" and "im no slave" until its time to greedily cash that stinking, grubby giro.

You sound intelligent - not

[ingognito32]

Here we go again, another work-shy dosser, enthusiastically criticising the very system that befits one with the life of Riley.

Its all about "Screw the system" and "im no slave" until its time to greedily cash that stinking, grubby giro.

Can you tell how you established this by the posts made.

[largejack]

Political correctness is designed to actually STOP us from communicating in any way. Its parameters are expanded constantly and its philosphy even encompasses thought. It gathers pace everyday and we are hurtling toward a society where the will be NOTHING you can say, think or feel that is deemed correct. The worst thing about it is that WE are the people that police this ridiculous philosophy.:mad:


The real term for it is Thought Crime, and like you said, it does affect the way we think even though we despise it.

[tracker]

Here we go again, another work-shy dosser, enthusiastically criticising the very system that befits one with the life of Riley.

Its all about "Screw the system" and "im no slave" until its time to greedily cash that stinking, grubby giro.

ah ha , as usual it doesnt take long before some dozy tit takes the stance of judge , jury and exicutioner . the "I am a man coz I work in it" simpleton .:rolleyes:

actually if you read this Op carefully ( if you can read ) it talks about how far over the top that questions get on aplication forms.

tell me ;
was it trains you lined up for when god dished out brains ?

next time you might not ask for the slow one .

:D

[tracker]

Can you tell how you established this by the posts made.

yeah i though this too . I couldnt tell if they were an

ass-hole

or an aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaass hole .

:D

[tracker]

Political correctness is designed to actually STOP us from communicating in any way. Its parameters are expanded constantly and its philosphy even encompasses thought. It gathers pace everyday and we are hurtling toward a society where the will be NOTHING you can say, think or feel that is deemed correct. The worst thing about it is that WE are the people that police this ridiculous philosophy.:mad:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^very good^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:cool:

[ingognito32]

yeah i though this too . I couldnt tell if they were an

ass-hole

or an aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaass hole .

:D

:D

[gonzo75]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^very good^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:cool:

cheers tracker!:)

[red_ram]

Yes, political correctness has gone over the top.

About two decades ago.

[michael christopher]

PC has gone extremely overboard, to the point where it's turning into a method of creating Orwellian Crimestop.

[griffinman]

This is the first time that I have noticed this.

In my latest dole form, on question 3.. Did your partner ( married, registered partner or de facto of the opposite sex or same-sex) do any work in this period:p

http://www.tvscoop.tv/Jeremy-Kyle-is-evil.jpg

Get a JOB.....

[mikey mikey]

he he

photoshop is such fun:rolleyes:

Stewart Lee on Political Correctness - YouTube

[rodin]

Which PC is this? Plod? Political Correctness?

If the latter the very notion is over the top