Amazon deletes 1984 and Animal Farm from Kindle

[toedipper]

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Amazon basically guaranteed that I'll never buy a Kindle last night by bending to the wishes of a publisher and deleting every single legitimately-purchased copy of 1984 and Animal Farm from all Kindles remotely. Ridiculous.

[wise haven]

Excuse my ignorance but what is a Kindle?:)

[toedipper]

It's an Electronic book reader thingi-may-jig.

[autosuggestion]

Excuse my ignorance but what is a Kindle?:)

it's an electronic book thing, where you download books and turn pages with a button, so you can hold alot at a time and it saves trees etc etc global warming etc etc technology etc etc

"Amazon says this is a "rarity," but even once is too many times for bullshit like this to happen. Once I buy a book from Barnes & Noble, I never have to worry about them breaking into my house and taking it back, leaving me a pile of singles on my nightstand."

haha

[wise haven]

Thanks for enlightening me.

Have I got this right?

People have bought and downloaded 1984 but somehow the publisher has instructed Amazon to remotely remove it from Kindle owners - who have it on their "Kindle thingy"?

Surely this is theft?

[romas]

you can always use sony reader and read from PDF files.

[disorder2k8]

look in the small print, i bet you are really renting books instead of owning them
thats how everything works

[wise haven]

look in the small print, i bet you are really renting books instead of owning them
thats how everything works

Ah! That makes sense now.

[michael christopher]

Why would they leave two of the most widely known and published books of all time off of their service?

I mean, 1984 is largely considered maybe the greatest book ever written in the 20th century.

I can't even think of anything more intelligent to say to this than: What the f- is going on?

[nectars]

********************/nfdpch

Amazon basically guaranteed that I'll never buy a Kindle last night by bending to the wishes of a publisher and deleting every single legitimately-purchased copy of 1984 and Animal Farm from all Kindles remotely. Ridiculous.

You forgot to mention the below.

Apparently, the publisher changed its mind about having electronic versions of Orwell's books. So Amazon removed them from the store and in the process remotely deleted the books from the Kindles of anyone who bought them, depositing a refund in their account in the process.

[ritchs]

Why would they leave two of the most widely known and published books of all time off of their service?

I mean, 1984 is largely considered maybe the greatest book ever written in the 20th century.

I can't even think of anything more intelligent to say to this than: What the f- is going on?

Can't have sheeps getting ideas from things that are too easily available. We are fast approaching a reality of' 'Life imitating Art' in that, we will soon have many Winston Smiths revising and rewriting history and stuff. We already have this 'live' with the spin doctors on media news. What's next, books disappearing from the shelves of libraries because of controversial content. I notice that in the local libraries, certain books (like David Icke's and others) are purportedly all missing from the shelf.(not checked out, but all copies 100% missing) Another conspiracy nutter idea I suppose. :)

[besides]

look in the small print, i bet you are really renting books instead of owning them
thats how everything works

Apparently, the publisher changed its mind about having electronic versions of Orwell's books. So Amazon removed them from the store and in the process remotely deleted the books from the Kindles of anyone who bought them, depositing a refund in their account in the process.


if its not in the smallprint [at point of sale?] surely even if refunds are deposited, its a breach of some kind of contract, maybe data protection? maybe human rights? dunno.


Can't have sheeps getting ideas from things that are too easily available. We are fast approaching a reality of' 'Life imitating Art' in that, we will soon have many Winston Smiths revising and rewriting history and stuff. We already have this 'live' with the spin doctors on media news. What's next, books disappearing from the shelves of libraries because of controversial content. I notice that in the local libraries, certain books (like David Icke's and others) are purportedly all missing from the shelf.(not checked out, but all copies 100% missing) Another conspiracy nutter idea I suppose. :)

good points ritchs, it reminds me, must change my signature, gonna use this for a while:

"in a knowledge economy, there is economy of knowledge" besides - 2007
"a knowledge economy presupposes mass stupidity" besides -2004

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1090846&postcount=20

[dude111]

I mean, 1984 is largely considered maybe the greatest book ever written in the 20th century.Sounds like they are trying to silence it.....

[anyuser]

see for info on Peer To Peer: Some E-Books Are More Equal Than Others (http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=48000)

by luxor500 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:25 am All the more reason to keep Peer To Peer technology alive and kicking.
This just points out the folly and danger of online commerce. When I leave the store with a purchase I definitely do not want the retailer to follow me home. If they do - that just guarantees that I will never visit that retailer again.
Oddly enough - I've been hoping that the kindle would really take off and help to save the publishing industry. But - Amazon just threw cold water on that dream.

[rodin]

In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

[stomach]

Whether a refund has been given or not is irrelevant, the point here is that a company is deciding what we can and can't read!!!! :mad:

[cafetimes1991]

Down the memory hole...
One of the few A's I got, I believe, was in January 2008 for my book review on Nineteen Eighty-Four. I think soon we shall see this book not being burned, as happened in Nazi Germany with certain books in the 1930s, but taken from the public's reach by what the OP referred to. And the youth of my generation shall move ever close to this quote:

"Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 2

[smariot]

Burning books and rewriting history has never been easier. Thanks, Amazon!

[michael christopher]

Whether a refund has been given or not is irrelevant, the point here is that a company is deciding what we can and can't read!!!! :mad:

Legally they aren't doing that at all. Technically speaking, whoever bought the Kindle agrees to the rules Kindle puts forward.

Riddle me this: when is censorship not really censorship?

Answer: When it's legal!

[blueyonder2012]

Amazon deletes 1984 and Animal Farm from Kindle

HOW ORWELLIAN!!:eek::eek::D:D

Big Brother!!.

[danster82]

The most insane thing really is the whole idea that some company has "rights" to a book written by a man many years ago who has long since died... that is insane, we really need to start addressing ownership issues especially when they pertain to ideas.