View Full Version : Michael Jackson IS a TRUTHER
mountain
16-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much :)
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson Part 1 - YouTube
the infinite one
16-07-2009, 09:10 PM
wow...this is BRILLIANT!
I always felt intuively that MJ knew what was going on.
Thanks for posting!
polveirbecker
16-07-2009, 09:14 PM
Joe is going to love this thread!
simmm
16-07-2009, 09:18 PM
It does seem strange that big stars on the music scene that connect to the people, have theories of their own or are anti-authoritarian die at a younger age than possibly expected,Lennon,Hendrix,Cobain, etc.
I'm sure MJ knew a lot of very important and high ranking people and also knew a lot more than he let on...I don't know much about his beliefs, I'll have to look that up...but if he did know things....why didn't he speak out more..??
Fear??
biblegirl
16-07-2009, 09:37 PM
Excellent vid mountain!!
So Michael talks about subliminals and the house alarm goes off??! I actually remember watching that live interview with oprah several years ago. While I was never a fan (not allowed to be because of religion :rolleyes:), I could see his meekness from day one, and felt the child molestation cases got way too much publicity by a corrupt media.
Thanks again for the video.
zero1
16-07-2009, 09:44 PM
Good, I've not enjoyed all the MJ threads on here and elsewhere @ all, but that video is excellent. Thanks.
outofthebox
16-07-2009, 10:08 PM
Just finished watching all four parts, nice one Mountain thanks for posting !
ronisron
16-07-2009, 10:35 PM
I watched all 4. I think this is the same gent with all of the "The Industry" clips, exposing the robotic agenda, etc. I watch these things because I'm really not aware of the music that's out now, I don't really pay attention to it. It's so nice to see the game hasn't changed, just switched lanes. Whoever made the vids shouldn't be down on themselves or thge situation, we've only really just begun to battle back. The Illuminati have years of this. We'll get it, it will come together.
I grew up in the '80's, and Satanism was prevalent then too, just a little more boldfaced. Bands like Motley Crue, Venom, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, all with Satanic and Crowleyan references right in the open. Iron Maiden basically had an invocation with the song "666 The Number of the Beast". Pentagrams everywhere, people reading Anton LaVeys Satanic bible, getting "666" and pentagrams tattooed on their bodies...and the majority of mainstream bands were boys wearing lipstick and spandex, with teased out hair. The Stones have always sold satanism and drug use to the masses, the Seattle scene focused on heroin use..... on and on. Sadly, the bottom line is some very sick people run the music business.
Michael has always intrigued me, and no matter what the press, I could never understand how he went from being successful young man with Off The Wall and Thriller, to being a strange white man with no nose. It is not a logical progression. I often wondered if it was still him. It seems the MSM is picking up o the possibility of murder, and the LAPD has left the possibility out there. If it is, it will stop with his physician as far as MSM goes. As far as people that dig a little deeper go, we'll just have to sift through all the info out there to come to some sort of a conclusion.;)
joe911
16-07-2009, 10:41 PM
Joe is going to love this thread!
He does indeed;)
Great video Mountain,i saw a similar one the other day.
Did anyone see tha 'living with mj' re run tonight? Martin Bashtwats a right asshole,asking michael ablout when his dad used to hit him,and hes almost crying and says to martin "why are you asking me these things" [and you can see he's uncomfortable with them] but he keeps pushing him for more and more answres.:mad:
rwederfoort
16-07-2009, 11:04 PM
R.I.P Michael You finished your Mission , OK
Namaste
mountain
16-07-2009, 11:26 PM
He does indeed;)
Great video Mountain,i saw a similar one the other day.
Did anyone see tha 'living with mj' re run tonight? Martin Bashtwats a right asshole,asking michael ablout when his dad used to hit him,and hes almost crying and says to martin "why are you asking me these things" [and you can see he's uncomfortable with them] but he keeps pushing him for more and more answres.:mad:
Hey thanks everybody for watching and your pleasant comments also!! :)
Yes Joe I noticed awhile back when you played 'Beat It' on your show that you are a fan!! Thats good! I would like to see that video you mention, please post it sometime on here! :)
joe911
16-07-2009, 11:29 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
About 5 minutes in,im sure its this video,i couldnt bear watching it again:(
monkfish
16-07-2009, 11:30 PM
He does indeed;)
Great video Mountain,i saw a similar one the other day.
Did anyone see tha 'living with mj' re run tonight? Martin Bashtwats a right asshole,asking michael ablout when his dad used to hit him,and hes almost crying and says to martin "why are you asking me these things" [and you can see he's uncomfortable with them] but he keeps pushing him for more and more answres.:mad:
I couldnt stand that Bashier nob rott after that interview,2 faced wanker. I saw it was on tonight but didnt want to watch it again. In fact the more i hear and see and read on michael jackson at the moment just convinces me that he was a whore for the music and media industry as a whole.
Mr jackson was worth more to these twats dead! As we are currently seeing with his entire music/video/life/death packages making huge fortunes.
Come on..look around you..ANYTHING is possible.
Anyone seen the film 'Bring me the head of Mavies Davies'?
polveirbecker
17-07-2009, 01:08 AM
This video has certainly inspired me to become more active. Easier said than done!
free_at_last
17-07-2009, 01:59 AM
Check out the story of Tupac, they say he was whacked out by TPTB when he released his Album Killuminati, just google it you will find all the sources.
bendoon
17-07-2009, 02:36 AM
All the major entertainment stars will know whats going on, probably why so many turn to drugs and die young because they are carrying a hard to bear secret.
mrindigo
17-07-2009, 02:58 AM
Thanks for posting this, Mountain.
I've been a bit torn with the recent fixation on Micheal's death. On one hand it seemed like a distraction, while on the other I figured there was likely something more to it, but wasn't sure why exactly. Thank you for opening my eyes a bit wider. :)
dude111
17-07-2009, 02:59 AM
Joe is going to love this thread!He has good reason to!
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:05 AM
Check out the story of Tupac, they say he was whacked out by TPTB when he released his Album Killuminati, just google it you will find all the sources.
YES Free and in the second part of the video, there's some excellent footage of Pac speaking about the 'Illuminati' and why he added a K to it on his last offcially released album. He said that it meant 'kill the Illuminati'...
These 4 part videos aren't solely about MJ but other TRUTHERS as well who spoke out against the PTB. Personally, I have eliminated my use of the words 'elite' and 'Illuminati' when I refer to them because thats giving these 'people' a false status in my opinion.
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:06 AM
All the major entertainment stars will know whats going on, probably why so many turn to drugs and die young because they are carrying a hard to bear secret.
Perhaps, or maybe some are mind-controlled and sold in by their parents... its so sad but the truth is all coming out like big tsunami wave, I am happy and feel relieved about that :)
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:08 AM
Thanks for posting this, Mountain.
I've been a bit torn with the recent fixation on Micheal's death. On one hand it seemed like a distraction, while on the other I figured there was likely something more to it, but wasn't sure why exactly. Thank you for opening my eyes a bit wider. :)
You're welcome! It certainly opened mines a bit wider like :eek: but it doesn't surprise me. Its weird, the moment I heard news of his death I was like :rolleyes: because it seemed to be pre-destined or something, weird.
MJ has had a big influence on the world, especially the Japanese. Everybody loved him regardless and these dark beings hate the vibration of love.
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:21 AM
Excellent vid mountain!!
So Michael talks about subliminals and the house alarm goes off??! I actually remember watching that live interview with oprah several years ago. While I was never a fan (not allowed to be because of religion :rolleyes:), I could see his meekness from day one, and felt the child molestation cases got way too much publicity by a corrupt media.
Thanks again for the video.
Yes Biblegirl and it was strange, like a trigger or something, the alarm going off. I suspect that MJ escaped MKUltra and became strong enough to send his own messages in his song. I think in that interview he was just about to reveal that much but was cut off :rolleyes:
When i watch interviews of celebs it often seems they are cut off abrubtly when they are attempting to speak on things that may have people questioning, its very uncanny. I think I will post these vids on Stepford thread.
Oh yes, if you watch the other 3 vids you'll see it touches on other celebs who are spreading the message of truth and that creep Obama and his reverse 'I love Satan' subliminals during his campaigns and speeches.
mind1universe
17-07-2009, 03:42 AM
Obama is satan.
For sure.
I cant deny it no more. That sick smile. It is not normal.
Btw The illiuminati and satanists are digging their graves. Time on this earth is ending for them. Mark these words. Time is chainging. We are moving to the fifth dimension so hang in there. Michael jackson is not dead. His sould lives on and is free.
He was loving, loved and lovable.
Love conquers all.
Satanists turn in, or die.
inverselogic
17-07-2009, 03:47 AM
I only have to listen to this to understand why he is dead.
Michael Jackson - They Don't Care About Us (Official Prison Version) - YouTube
He will not have died in vain.
torus
17-07-2009, 03:51 AM
"did you ever stop to notice all the children dead from war? did you ever stop to notice, this crying Earth its weeping shores!?"
-MJ, Earth Song
RIP Michael.
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:54 AM
Obama is satan.
For sure.
I cant deny it no more. That sick smile. It is not normal.
Btw The illiuminati and satanists are digging their graves. Time on this earth is ending for them. Mark these words. Time is chainging. We are moving to the fifth dimension so hang in there. Michael jackson is not dead. His sould lives on and is free.
He was loving, loved and lovable.
Love conquers all.
Satanists turn in, or die.
Oh yes their time is definitely up, friend! They either tune into to love or they may perish from their own bloody hands...
ryanhodgson
17-07-2009, 04:31 AM
I only have to listen to this to understand why he is dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o
He will not have died in vain.
That's awesome. Everything is so obvious.
When was this song released?
piratecooper
17-07-2009, 05:17 AM
Nazi obsession — Obsessed with Hitler, he collected Nazi medals, jewelry and paraphernalia. This inspired his military look.
infinite_consciousness
17-07-2009, 06:20 AM
Really good video. I think there is definitely foul play. Shit is getting crazy! I read that Madonna is mind controlled and used for rituals.
http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo136/Doomsday_Celebration/madonna-illuminati.jpg
inverselogic
17-07-2009, 06:32 AM
Very off topic. But I have to say.
I find it HILARIOUS that people call ME crazy.
I mean, I DO have quite a few screws loose, but... seriously?
sorry, roommate just called me crazy when I told him MJ was murdered. haha.
merlincove
17-07-2009, 06:42 AM
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRI1VnQAEc
nice one mountain, yet again you make me smile.
i think that there is much more to MJ than we are realy aware. I've been steering clear of the mj threads a little, tho i can't help notice all the poison coming out in the press now. He was a very gentle soul and i think that those who want for power did their best to tarnish him, and to an extent that worked. i was a little sickened when he died to see all the stars, Madonna, paul mcartney etc saying how wonderfull he was and how they loved him and all the sickening self publicity BS, i asked myself where were his friends when he was going thru the court case? They were hiding behind their respective closed doors, scarred of being sullied by the same brush if they spoke out for him, it is a shame that his 'friends; couldn't have supported him in life as they did in death.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
These say a lot about a mans truth, imo
Respect
biblegirl
17-07-2009, 06:43 AM
Very off topic. But I have to say.
I find it HILARIOUS that people call ME crazy.
I mean, I DO have quite a few screws loose, but... seriously?
sorry, roommate just called me crazy when I told him MJ was murdered. haha.
people have called me crazy for insisting that cheese is white :rolleyes:
YES IT'S ORANGE DYE PEOPLE!!
Phew, I am done now.
Back to the conspiracy:
i do wonder about Michael's friends, like Elizabeth Taylor...what kinds of things did she really know?
nicolaj
17-07-2009, 06:44 AM
I'll always believe Charlie Chaplin was warning us also in his many films. At least they only ran him out of the USA.
The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
C.Chaplin
inverselogic
17-07-2009, 06:56 AM
people have called me crazy for insisting that cheese is white :rolleyes:
YES IT'S ORANGE DYE PEOPLE!!
Phew, I am done now.
Back to the conspiracy:
i do wonder about Michael's friends, like Elizabeth Taylor...what kinds of things did she really know?
Well, some cheeses can get a slight yellow/orange tint to them. But there is no such thing as dark orange cheddar in the natural world.
In fact, most of the world looks at the stuff we call "cheese" here in the NAU and laughs.
corivss
17-07-2009, 07:14 AM
Thank you very much for the vids!
gaias child
17-07-2009, 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by mountain
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson Part 1 Close
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I watched all 4 videos, very powerful. I already knew he'd been murdered and it was probably illuminati, but all the satan stuff, makes me feel that there is no hope, what can we do to end this!!!?? we need more people to be aware and there is only a few.
mountain
17-07-2009, 03:08 PM
I watched all 4 videos, very powerful. I already knew he'd been murdered and it was probably illuminati, but all the satan stuff, makes me feel that there is no hope, what can we do to end this!!!?? we need more people to be aware and there is only a few.
Yes I watched all of them last night and shared with friends. Yes the Luciferian/Satanic influence does appear to be prevalent here on Earth, doesn't it?
I believe that we are at the time begiinning to fight these forces by simply realising that we are much more than they have forced us to believe through the generations. Diverting our energy away from their blatant symbols and fear creations is essential, I feel.
This starves them somewhat, but we also must find other solutions of a more powerful magnitude. This will most likely be a collective move, like a huge tsunami of all of our spirits combined and washing them away like a tidal wave, or they may simply self destruct or change from within.
Its creepy, that Obama footage, isn't it? These people appear to me to be under serious demonic possession and it would be cool if we can like take a flame and cure them like they did the on Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, wouldn't it? Hehe I often joke and say this but it could be why 'they' are heavily guarded and secured.
Someday, they would counter with a rebellion of souls who claim back their freedom and some will want retaliation and they keep themselves heavily guarded at all times in public and perhaps their bunkers are for this same reason as well, as preservation for their agenda.
Who cares, their time is up! :);)
Take a look at this excellent thread in Satanism section, loaded with great info...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63688
orbit
17-07-2009, 04:16 PM
Very good... thanks for posting..
rwederfoort
17-07-2009, 04:32 PM
michael jackson "illuminati" SCENE 1 - YouTube
michael jackson "illuminati" SCENE 2 - YouTube
michael jackson "illuminati" SCENE 3 - YouTube
michael jackson "illuminati" SCENE 4 - YouTube
Why 2pac died - YouTube
Why 2pac died - YouTube
Have a nice day,
Namaste
rwederfoort
17-07-2009, 04:42 PM
HEY I am not against none of them, but they ALL knew what they were doing, No body FORCE them to JOIN?
We all have a Free will to CHOOSE, TO be FAMES, to be RICH, all those other Eartly things you knw what the problems are going to be with SATAN.
All those which sign those Million Dollar contracts know what will happen if you want to get out,'
But who is TOMMY MOTTOLA, that michael called a DEVIL?
Atleast he told the TRUTH, because he knew who those DEMONS, and DEVILS were arround him.
Namaste
Excellent thread I'm such a cynic, a lesson learnt thanks posters
mountain
17-07-2009, 06:27 PM
HEY I am not against none of them, but they ALL knew what they were doing, No body FORCE them to JOIN?
We all have a Free will to CHOOSE, TO be FAMES, to be RICH, all those other Eartly things you knw what the problems are going to be with SATAN.
All those which sign those Million Dollar contracts know what will happen if you want to get out,'
But who is TOMMY MOTTOLA, that michael called a DEVIL?
Atleast he told the TRUTH, because he knew who those DEMONS, and DEVILS were arround him.
Namaste
Well see... I hardly call forcing children, siblings to be in a music singing group to be a consensual career, especially since they were obviosly doing it out of fear of their father and being abused.
In a tell-all book by brither Jermaine, he mentions that Joe Jackson often took Michael as a young boy to hotels to meet with business men types and said that Michael would be severely ill afterwards. WTF?!
Reeks of pedofunkyfilia and MKUltra to me.... :mad::(
mountain
17-07-2009, 06:30 PM
nice one mountain, yet again you make me smile.
i think that there is much more to MJ than we are realy aware. I've been steering clear of the mj threads a little, tho i can't help notice all the poison coming out in the press now. He was a very gentle soul and i think that those who want for power did their best to tarnish him, and to an extent that worked. i was a little sickened when he died to see all the stars, Madonna, paul mcartney etc saying how wonderfull he was and how they loved him and all the sickening self publicity BS, i asked myself where were his friends when he was going thru the court case? They were hiding behind their respective closed doors, scarred of being sullied by the same brush if they spoke out for him, it is a shame that his 'friends; couldn't have supported him in life as they did in death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOnL5c8LMqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5upJ1I_jDY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGeZYednWtI
These say a lot about a mans truth, imo
Respect
:)
merlincove
17-07-2009, 08:10 PM
70,000 people singing heal the world, what an amazing thing, brings a tear to my eye everytime i see it, and so much more poigniant now.
So, i wonder, if he was silenced by the illumined ones, just what was he gonna say or do in these concerts that had them so worried?
Anyone who can get 70k people singing about love musta been a severe threat, and to be doing that for 50 nights in such a powerful place, symbolically, as the O2 in london, site of the dome, opposite the pyramidal needle on the wharf....
Hm, the bastards would want that silenced wouldn't they?
ronisron
17-07-2009, 08:38 PM
I showed my oldest son the vids last night, and he was most spooked by the "ghost" captured on tape at Neverland. I've educated him about certain topics, like subliminals and things like that. Not to believe the crap that's on TV and the radio. TV programming.....
Long before I read the comment that Jermaine said about young Michael, I was discussing his possible pedophilia with someone and I just said that when Michael was young, you can bet he was passed around a bit by higher ups in the "business". I don't doubt it for a second.
pepsirat
17-07-2009, 10:15 PM
I enjoyed that cheers:)
gaias child
18-07-2009, 06:41 AM
HEY I am not against none of them, but they ALL knew what they were doing, No body FORCE them to JOIN?
We all have a Free will to CHOOSE, TO be FAMES, to be RICH, all those other Eartly things you knw what the problems are going to be with SATAN.
All those which sign those Million Dollar contracts know what will happen if you want to get out,'
But who is TOMMY MOTTOLA, that michael called a DEVIL?
Atleast he told the TRUTH, because he knew who those DEMONS, and DEVILS were arround him.
Namaste
Michael Jackson did not choose to be famous he was put on stage at age 5 by his father and famous at 10, and beaten and abused to perform.
Tommy Mottola was the head of Sony, and he lost his job because of MJ. Sony also wanted his catelogue and he refused to give it up. I wonder whether financial situations were created to try and force hiim to sell it
Here is full speech that led to that comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D70169%26page%3D160&feature=player_embedded
gaias child
18-07-2009, 06:42 AM
Yes I watched all of them last night and shared with friends. Yes the Luciferian/Satanic influence does appear to be prevalent here on Earth, doesn't it?
I believe that we are at the time begiinning to fight these forces by simply realising that we are much more than they have forced us to believe through the generations. Diverting our energy away from their blatant symbols and fear creations is essential, I feel.
This starves them somewhat, but we also must find other solutions of a more powerful magnitude. This will most likely be a collective move, like a huge tsunami of all of our spirits combined and washing them away like a tidal wave, or they may simply self destruct or change from within.
Its creepy, that Obama footage, isn't it? These people appear to me to be under serious demonic possession and it would be cool if we can like take a flame and cure them like they did the on Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, wouldn't it? Hehe I often joke and say this but it could be why 'they' are heavily guarded and secured.
Someday, they would counter with a rebellion of souls who claim back their freedom and some will want retaliation and they keep themselves heavily guarded at all times in public and perhaps their bunkers are for this same reason as well, as preservation for their agenda.
Who cares, their time is up! :);)
Take a look at this excellent thread in Satanism section, loaded with great info...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63688
Thank you, I had a look at the thread, I like your post it was very empowering.:)
sukyspook
18-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Yes I watched all of them last night and shared with friends. Yes the Luciferian/Satanic influence does appear to be prevalent here on Earth, doesn't it?
I believe that we are at the time begiinning to fight these forces by simply realising that we are much more than they have forced us to believe through the generations. Diverting our energy away from their blatant symbols and fear creations is essential, I feel.
This starves them somewhat, but we also must find other solutions of a more powerful magnitude. This will most likely be a collective move, like a huge tsunami of all of our spirits combined and washing them away like a tidal wave, or they may simply self destruct or change from within.
Its creepy, that Obama footage, isn't it? These people appear to me to be under serious demonic possession and it would be cool if we can like take a flame and cure them like they did the on Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, wouldn't it? Hehe I often joke and say this but it could be why 'they' are heavily guarded and secured.
Someday, they would counter with a rebellion of souls who claim back their freedom and some will want retaliation and they keep themselves heavily guarded at all times in public and perhaps their bunkers are for this same reason as well, as preservation for their agenda.
Who cares, their time is up! :);)
Take a look at this excellent thread in Satanism section, loaded with great info...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63688
I still haven't made up my mind about Michael Jackson Mount.....there was a repeat doco by Martin Bashir on in the UK the other night which didn't do Michael many favours.
However, I truly share your feelings about the Luciferian/Satanic mindset and believe that 'critical mass' is rapidly being reached and their attempt to dominate this planet is coming to an end.
They won't give up without a fight...
Meanwhile I'll re-watch more MJ vids and see what I 'feel' about it all.
;)
mountain
18-07-2009, 01:28 PM
Michael Jackson did not choose to be famous he was put on stage at age 5 by his father and famous at 10, and beaten and abused to perform.
Tommy Mottola was the head of Sony, and he lost his job because of MJ. Sony also wanted his catelogue and he refused to give it up. I wonder whether financial situations were created to try and force hiim to sell it
Here is full speech that led to that comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D70169%26page%3D160&feature=player_embedded
Hey thanks for the video! Much appreciated...
This subject is one I am sure that will open many eyes about the PTB and their agenda to revise an Old World Order. I will be providing all the additional parts of the MJ vids sometime soon.
I am sure there were many things that went on too behind the scenes and is why Michael openly said in the first clip that they thought he was just dancing and playing along, but they didn't realise his mind was stronger than that.
I believe he freed himself from mind control, to be honest and couldn't control what they wanted him to make songs about anymore. Like the creator odf the videos suggested, perhaps he was about to expose something very endangering to the PTB in his upcoming concert.
Brice Taylor, who like Cathy O'Brien has a book titled 'Thanks For the Memories' escaped from MKUltra and in it she mentions that the Jacksons were definitely involved in mind control experiments and military. She said, that she herself witnessed them being abused...
mountain
18-07-2009, 01:35 PM
70,000 people singing heal the world, what an amazing thing, brings a tear to my eye everytime i see it, and so much more poigniant now.
So, i wonder, if he was silenced by the illumined ones, just what was he gonna say or do in these concerts that had them so worried?
Anyone who can get 70k people singing about love musta been a severe threat, and to be doing that for 50 nights in such a powerful place, symbolically, as the O2 in london, site of the dome, opposite the pyramidal needle on the wharf....
Hm, the bastards would want that silenced wouldn't they?
Oh yes!! Ofcourse! Sing about love, unity and happiness and KAPOW!! this is the thanks you get!
Its so sad, makes you realise why most mainstream music is sh*t and unbearable to listen to, well at least for me anyways. When I hear it, there's something odd about the vibrations I feel that make me uneasy.
Then the lyrics often express love in the physical or lust , not spiritually. You hear this ~your body is sexy this and that, I wanna love you up so-so all night long~ THAT's NOT LOVE!!!
Well, the good thing is and they were talking about it on a major radio station which plays more of the B-side and not so well-known artist - the real music is making a comeback which people craving nowadays, another sign that the PTB and their shit is coming to an inevitable end.
BYEEEEE Dark Famileeeee! :) :D
fairyelfdog
18-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Wow! I've never been an MJ fan and always thought he was hyped. This s wonderful! Not that he was murdered obviously but that he knew and tried to expose it. Now that he is dead, they have made it much worse for themselves. His fans are never going to let this one rest and he has a LOT of fans. What morons...
I'm also sending a warm thought and an apology to Michael. You've done great. I hope you're laughing now. :D
Edit: Maybe what he really wanted to say was that they don't give a fuck about us. It matches the rhytm... someone should change it ;)
orbit
18-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Lets put it on record that Tommy Mottola is a suspect in the MJ murder,
When I read that he had converted to Judaism the alarm bells started to ring......
mountain
18-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson Part 1 - YouTube
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson part 2 - YouTube
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson part 2 - YouTube
Illuminati Killed Michael Jackson part 4 - YouTube
Here is full speech that led to that comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D70169%26page%3D160&feature=player_embedded
omg! was that speach made before he was in court on child abuse charges ???
he knew so much, you can tell. his eyes when he calls mottola a devil..
les_paul_robot
18-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Mariah Carey was married to that devil. I wonder what she knows.
gaias child
18-07-2009, 07:40 PM
omg! was that speach made before he was in court on child abuse charges ???
he knew so much, you can tell. his eyes when he calls mottola a devil..
Yes. I also read in the book the michael jackson conspiracy, about the trial by Aphrodite Jones. She says in the book Michael believed that tptb behind sony including Tommy Motola were behind the child allegations. I did some research on Tommy Mottola and he has zionist and mafia background. The people who made allegations were paid to do so and all the expert witnesses were paid for. If they had won they would have been able to claim millions in damages.
I'mnot sure who gets control of his part of the sony cateologue on his death (publishing rights) that he refused to sell,and they tried to create financial situation to force him. I read that the new songs by MJ are being released by Sony, which is strange.
This interview is also intriguing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tb0vsl1UUY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fforum%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D71870&feature=player_embedded
gaias child
18-07-2009, 07:48 PM
This one is interesting too
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
orbit
18-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Look who's gonna make the money......
The gatekeeper of Jacksons catalog.....
TOMMY MOTTOLA ON MICHAEL JACKSON'S UNREALISED SONGS - YouTube
This stinks don't you think?
The Icke board needs Jacko category.
timmy
18-07-2009, 08:54 PM
I have always loved art of MJ. I never believed in the rumors.
The death of MJ has opened my eyes to many things for which I had never drawn attention to, because I did not know and there was no interest.
Already 3 weeks I did not get off the Internet. Everything that I read, scared shit of me. I think that for many people was the same.
I have some thoughts ... And I want this to be true. MJ knew what was happening around and he could not exclude the possibility of murder. Maybe he really simulated his death, put to sleep and to relax those, who was after him and have interest in his death. And then, MJ will come back and continue what he started. Only now will be more people who will follow him.
Maybe this is stupid, it's just a thought.
timmy
18-07-2009, 09:23 PM
Very off topic. But I have to say.
I find it HILARIOUS that people call ME crazy.
I mean, I DO have quite a few screws loose, but... seriously?
sorry, roommate just called me crazy when I told him MJ was murdered. haha.
Just I wanted to write this and now I reading this!
The same thing around me, I can not talk with anyone. When I speak about t MJ, about illiminati, NWO, etc. People laugh and say "It's just ballshit!" When I asked them whether they have read, watched, search ... they respond that they have no time for this s...t! Im speechless from ignoranse!
morpheuz
19-07-2009, 12:13 AM
So, i wonder, if he was silenced by the illumined ones, just what was he gonna say or do in these concerts that had them so worried?
How about that for a reason? Make sure to read the comment at the bottom twice -->
http://i27.tinypic.com/24dld7a.jpg
Does it get clearer now for you guys?
For those who don't know who Karen Faye is, she was one of Michael's closest friends for 20 years and his personal make-up and hair artist.
Michael was a damn courageous person and most people on this planet won't ever grasp what a light being he really was.
While Dr. Conrad Murray is definitely not the only one involved in MJ's death it's interesting to note that he's a freemason as you can read in this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html?mrp).
mountain
19-07-2009, 01:32 AM
Wow! I've never been an MJ fan and always thought he was hyped. This s wonderful! Not that he was murdered obviously but that he knew and tried to expose it. Now that he is dead, they have made it much worse for themselves. His fans are never going to let this one rest and he has a LOT of fans. What morons...
I'm also sending a warm thought and an apology to Michael. You've done great. I hope you're laughing now. :D
Edit: Maybe what he really wanted to say was that they don't give a fuck about us. It matches the rhytm... someone should change it ;)
:)
gaias child
19-07-2009, 05:53 AM
Look who's gonna make the money......
The gatekeeper of Jacksons catalog.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sItXxlQEmMs
This stinks don't you think?
The Icke board needs Jacko category.
OMG. Thanks. I agree
nirvana
19-07-2009, 09:50 AM
I think robbie williams will be gone shortly aswell he's too friendly with david icke and a ufo fanaic and tptb cannot have that can they.
merlincove
19-07-2009, 12:42 PM
How about that for a reason? Make sure to read the comment at the bottom twice -->
http://i27.tinypic.com/24dld7a.jpg
Does it get clearer now for you guys?
For those who don't know who Karen Faye is, she was one of Michael's closest friends for 20 years and his personal make-up and hair artist.
Michael was a damn courageous person and most people on this planet won't ever grasp what a light being he really was.
While Dr. Conrad Murray is definitely not the only one involved in MJ's death it's interesting to note that he's a freemason as you can read in this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html?mrp).
Excellent find morpheuz :D
and when you think about thye numbers, 50,000 people x 50 dates, thats a mighty amount of folk who will be walking away with the huge emotional release and drive to 'Heal The World, the spntanity of that energy would be overwhelming, and ifeach one of those manages to infect one more person, wow, the energy wave from that one concept would be awesome and unstopable. Unless you can stop the first pebble that creates the wave.....
Thanks for posting
morpheuz
19-07-2009, 12:48 PM
Yeah... you forgot the "four year window" (2012 hint hint) Karen mentioned. MJ was in the know and only from her comments you can only imagine what he wanted to reveal on his concerts.
Furthermore... it's not only those 50kx50... it's also the live coverage of probably a few concerts worldwide, TV and internet broadcasts, recordings found on Youtube etc. We are talking here about dozens of millions of people, at least.
mrmoney
19-07-2009, 01:46 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting much when I opened this thread. But now I hear all these Michael Jackson speeches and interviews. Wow. Maybe there was a conspiracy out to get him. Amazing stuff. I'll be uploading this to my YouTube channel and spreading it as far as possible.
mountain
19-07-2009, 04:09 PM
I have always loved art of MJ. I never believed in the rumors.
The death of MJ has opened my eyes to many things for which I had never drawn attention to, because I did not know and there was no interest.
Already 3 weeks I did not get off the Internet. Everything that I read, scared shit of me. I think that for many people was the same.
I have some thoughts ... And I want this to be true. MJ knew what was happening around and he could not exclude the possibility of murder. Maybe he really simulated his death, put to sleep and to relax those, who was after him and have interest in his death. And then, MJ will come back and continue what he started. Only now will be more people who will follow him.
Maybe this is stupid, it's just a thought.
I am certain that his death will open a few eyes to research into this further and people will discover links to the PTB as they do, which is a good thing!
I had NO idea he spoke out about Truth but I am not surprised, they always keep that kinda footage under wraps...
mountain
19-07-2009, 04:11 PM
Just I wanted to write this and now I reading this!
The same thing around me, I can not talk with anyone. When I speak about t MJ, about illiminati, NWO, etc. People laugh and say "It's just ballshit!" When I asked them whether they have read, watched, search ... they respond that they have no time for this s...t! Im speechless from ignoranse!
Yea but I am sure they got all the time in the world to watch say, Eastenders or Beverly Hills 90210...
Simply amazing how hypocritical people are and they never care for anyone else unless they are affeected somehow, selfish and inconsiderate. :(
How about that for a reason? Make sure to read the comment at the bottom twice -->
http://i27.tinypic.com/24dld7a.jpg
Does it get clearer now for you guys?
For those who don't know who Karen Faye is, she was one of Michael's closest friends for 20 years and his personal make-up and hair artist.
Michael was a damn courageous person and most people on this planet won't ever grasp what a light being he really was.
While Dr. Conrad Murray is definitely not the only one involved in MJ's death it's interesting to note that he's a freemason as you can read in this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html?mrp).
:eek: he was exicuted alright. i never bothered with mj during his life. but this thread has given me a new insight about him.
I think robbie williams will be gone shortly aswell he's too friendly with david icke and a ufo fanaic and tptb cannot have that can they.
i hope not....
Excellent find morpheuz :D
and when you think about thye numbers, 50,000 people x 50 dates, thats a mighty amount of folk who will be walking away with the huge emotional release and drive to 'Heal The World, the spntanity of that energy would be overwhelming, and ifeach one of those manages to infect one more person, wow, the energy wave from that one concept would be awesome and unstopable. Unless you can stop the first pebble that creates the wave.....
Thanks for posting
you know .... it still could happen like that.... the ripple effect from this event could make a mass awakening possible.
ryanhodgson
19-07-2009, 11:47 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Watch this and get an idea of what Micheal had planned. Listen to the Martin Luther King - "in what will go down as the greatest demonstration of freedom in the history of our nation" reference in the middle of the strong.
Micheal could have woken half the population by himself. I never thought I'd say this but Micheal is now up in John Lennon territory for respect in my books. We can't let them win.
joe911
20-07-2009, 12:06 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Theres 9 videos in total,,amazing.
mountain
20-07-2009, 10:16 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
mountain
21-07-2009, 12:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMYs3o1z86w&feature=related
Watch this and get an idea of what Micheal had planned. Listen to the Martin Luther King - "in what will go down as the greatest demonstration of freedom in the history of our nation" reference in the middle of the strong.
Micheal could have woken half the population by himself. I never thought I'd say this but Micheal is now up in John Lennon territory for respect in my books. We can't let them win.
Thanks for posting!!
paradise_1000
21-07-2009, 01:12 AM
Played beat it today and well it hit home and I had a tear TBH
have a great journey MJ bro :)
sniffle
21-07-2009, 01:42 AM
Michael Jackson - Shout - YouTube
SHOUT
Ignorance of people purchasing diamonds and necklaces,
And barely able to keep the payments up on their lessons,
And enrolled in a class and don't know who the professor is,
How low people go for the dough and make a mess of things,
Kids are murdering other kids for the fun of it,
Instead of using their mind or their fist, they put a gun in it
Wanna be a part of a clique, don't know who's running it,
Tragedy on top of tragedy you know it's killing me.
So many people in agony, this shouldn't have to be,
Too busy focusing on ourselves and not His Majesty,
There has to be some type of change for this day and age,
We gotta rearrange and flip the page,
Living encaged like animals and cannibals,
Eating each other alive just to survive the nine to five,
Every single day is trouble while we struggle and strive
Peace of mind's so hard to find.
I wanna shout, throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout
You know it makes me wanna shout,
Throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout, c'mon now
Problems, complications and accusations
Dividing the nations and races of empty faces
A war is taking place.
No substitution for restitution, the only solution for peace
Is increasing the height of your spirituality.
Masses of minds are shrouded, clouded visions
Deceptions and indecision, no faith or religion, how we're living.
The clock is ticking, the end is coming, there'll be no warning,
But we live to see the dawn.
How can we preach, when all we make this world to be
Is a living hell torturing our minds.
We all must unite, to turn darkness to light,
And the love in our hearts will shine.
We're disconnected from love, we're disrespecting each other
Whatever happened to protecting each other
Poisoned your body and your soul for a minute of pleasure,
But the damage that you've done is gonna last forever.
Babies being born in the world already drug addicted and afflicted,
Family values are contradicted.
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, the pressure is building and I've had enough.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/26/geraldos-2005-michael-jackson-interview/ - I know its fox news but, hey hey hey.
timmy
21-07-2009, 03:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZ3n-kEJHc
SHOUT
.....
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/26/geraldos-2005-michael-jackson-interview/ - I know its fox news but, hey hey hey.
O! WOW! Thank you very much! The first time I hear this song. :)
sniffle
21-07-2009, 10:50 AM
O! WOW! Thank you very much! The first time I hear this song. :)
;)
http://rapidshare.com/files/258273773/11_-_Shout.mp3.html - Heres a link to a full version.
merlincove
21-07-2009, 12:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZ3n-kEJHc
SHOUT
Ignorance of people purchasing diamonds and necklaces,
And barely able to keep the payments up on their lessons,
And enrolled in a class and don't know who the professor is,
How low people go for the dough and make a mess of things,
Kids are murdering other kids for the fun of it,
Instead of using their mind or their fist, they put a gun in it
Wanna be a part of a clique, don't know who's running it,
Tragedy on top of tragedy you know it's killing me.
So many people in agony, this shouldn't have to be,
Too busy focusing on ourselves and not His Majesty,
There has to be some type of change for this day and age,
We gotta rearrange and flip the page,
Living encaged like animals and cannibals,
Eating each other alive just to survive the nine to five,
Every single day is trouble while we struggle and strive
Peace of mind's so hard to find.
I wanna shout, throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout
You know it makes me wanna shout,
Throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout, c'mon now
Problems, complications and accusations
Dividing the nations and races of empty faces
A war is taking place.
No substitution for restitution, the only solution for peace
Is increasing the height of your spirituality.
Masses of minds are shrouded, clouded visions
Deceptions and indecision, no faith or religion, how we're living.
The clock is ticking, the end is coming, there'll be no warning,
But we live to see the dawn.
How can we preach, when all we make this world to be
Is a living hell torturing our minds.
We all must unite, to turn darkness to light,
And the love in our hearts will shine.
We're disconnected from love, we're disrespecting each other
Whatever happened to protecting each other
Poisoned your body and your soul for a minute of pleasure,
But the damage that you've done is gonna last forever.
Babies being born in the world already drug addicted and afflicted,
Family values are contradicted.
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, the pressure is building and I've had enough.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/26/geraldos-2005-michael-jackson-interview/ - I know its fox news but, hey hey hey.
WowW indeed....
is this a planned 'new' single?
sniffle
21-07-2009, 01:23 PM
WowW indeed....
is this a planned 'new' single?
"After the recording was done, we could see him dancing to the song," Cyph, who was introduced to the star by producer Teddy Riley, tells E! News. "He really was feeling that record, but, unfortunately, the record got rail roaded by politics within the album and the dispute between M.J. and Tommy [Mottola], so it got released as a maxi single to R. Kelly’s ‘Cry.’ No one’s heard ‘Shout’ in the U.S."
Looks like it was written for the Invincible album. Shame he couldnt convince sony to put it on the record.
mountain
23-07-2009, 02:19 AM
:):D
sensitivesoul
23-07-2009, 03:12 AM
I wish Michael didn't have to die... Wow awesome video, very interresting. Though it's also very sad, I wish the nwo would just dissarpear... I want us to wake up already, now his kids have to suffer because of it... Michael was wonderfully talented and it seems now to me that he's even more so... At least now he can finally be at peace and away from suffering.
inverselogic
23-07-2009, 06:57 AM
wow.
Sorry. I can't formulate anything more than that after hearing this song.
inverselogic
23-07-2009, 07:01 AM
Seriously. Wow.
Thank you for posting this. This song has cleared my mind and energized me when I needed it most.
MJ, I will never forget the kind of man you truly were.
free thinker
23-07-2009, 08:15 AM
Scientists, have managed to create a baby using sperm from Micheal Jackson & Arnold Swartsenegger, reports say that the baby will be called Micheal Wasenegger....
merlincove
23-07-2009, 10:36 AM
wow.
Sorry. I can't formulate anything more than that after hearing this song.
Kinda makes the hairs stand up on your neck now doesn't it?
"After the recording was done, we could see him dancing to the song," Cyph, who was introduced to the star by producer Teddy Riley, tells E! News. "He really was feeling that record, but, unfortunately, the record got rail roaded by politics within the album and the dispute between M.J. and Tommy [Mottola], so it got released as a maxi single to R. Kelly’s ‘Cry.’ No one’s heard ‘Shout’ in the U.S."
Looks like it was written for the Invincible album. Shame he couldnt convince sony to put it on the record.
Cheers sniffle ;)
I wish Michael didn't have to die... Wow awesome video, very interresting. Though it's also very sad, I wish the nwo would just dissarpear... I want us to wake up already, now his kids have to suffer because of it... Michael was wonderfully talented and it seems now to me that he's even more so... At least now he can finally be at peace and away from suffering.
sensitive soul, i think that you have managed to put into words what we are all feeling here, i know i feel that way too. I guess though that their (the nwo's) weakness is their own fear, and in fear they show that they are vulnerable. Their vulnerability is that we will wake up, and it certainly looks like they have silenced 'the most famous man on the planet' because he was a threat to thier cause, as i'm seeing that it was Michael's design was to wake people up more clearly now. (Chris moyles called Michael 'the most famous man on the planet on radio one, on the morning the uk was waking up to the newsof his death).
So in their ignorance, they have succeded in bringing light into a few more hearts, jut as with 911 they once again show themselves and people are noticing their colours.
Yes it is a pity that michaels light was extinguished, and a grave loss to so many in so many different ways. Like him or not, hear him or not, he touched the minds and the hearts of billions of people. And i know he made so many peoples lives richer with the gifts he bought here.
So i guess it's ok to feel the way you feel because it gives us more to fight and even 'shout' against - but know that the nwo are as vulnerable and more so perhaps than anyone because they have something they so desperately want to hold onto, and the more people see just what that thing is the more slipery that tyhing will become, and soon they will lose their grip on it and it will be gone from them.
i think this issue will be a way into freeing and opening many people's minds. When michael's name is mentioned, talk about it to your friends, hint that all those sickening allegations might have been made up just to silence him, to rubbish his name and reputation and message, that there are question marks about his death and talk of the message he wanted to bring to peoples minds and hearts, and they may start to ask deeper questions.
Peace all
doubledrop
23-07-2009, 10:42 AM
So glad this video was posted, I am sick to death of having to stick up for MJ to my bloke mates who love calling him a nonce.
He was a very troubled soul and had such a shit childhood he just wanted to give other kids happiness. Yeah maybe he crossed the line a bit but you have to remember since the age of 5 this bloke didn't get a chance to speak reality, say he was given booze at a young age, what with him being so cut off from the real world he has never had a chance to realise this is wrong.
I do not think for one second he was guilty of them charges, and his death has upset me alot, he brought me into the world of music and for that I am grateful.
mountain
24-07-2009, 12:19 PM
Thank you Merlin and Doubledrop! :)
Yes i believe that MJ may have even been a member here, who knows?! He is definitely in the know of our situation if he planeed to discuss 2012 and healing the world in his upcoming concert! They prolly knocked him off because of his strong influence on people. :(
wakeuptime
24-07-2009, 12:24 PM
Hi Mountain, I'd love to watch your video but the link isn't working. Would you check it? Thanks.
mountain
24-07-2009, 12:43 PM
Hi Mountain, I'd love to watch your video but the link isn't working. Would you check it? Thanks.
I just did. Maybe you have to clear your caches or click it twice. it worked fine for me, dear :)
mark1963
24-07-2009, 05:11 PM
I never really went for MJ after the stuff about kids sharing his bed and him paying $60m to the parents of one family. But after watching these vid's and seeing how awake he was I have now started to see him in a different light. I know he will enjoy his vibrational freedom now.
mountain
24-07-2009, 06:02 PM
I never really went for MJ after the stuff about kids sharing his bed and him paying $60m to the parents of one family. But after watching these vid's and seeing how awake he was I have now started to see him in a different light. I know he will enjoy his vibrational freedom now.
Yes Mark, absolutely!
When you see how he was speaking out against the media and its control and manipulation, its obvious he was threatened and set up with those child allegations.
Sure, he openly said he slept in same bed but I believe it was innocent as MJ is very childlike to me, big ole kid.
How come no other children came forth and all the child stars says MJ never violated them in any way, however the same ones claim other adults in the industry have!
I don't believe he could harm a fly.
manxboz
24-07-2009, 06:49 PM
Truely good thread!
I never really went for MJ after the stuff about kids sharing his bed and him paying $60m to the parents of one family. But after watching these vid's and seeing how awake he was I have now started to see him in a different light. I know he will enjoy his vibrational freedom now.
yeh, the penny dropped with me after seeing his sony speech just before he was set up with child abuse charges.
then his words about tptb and nwo.... he was awake alright, he was awake and about to speak to millions of open people... he had to be silenced imo.
lizzy
24-07-2009, 09:01 PM
I have just read the thread, watched over an hour of vids......
It all seems so well planned to the day.....when the Energy bill passed....the next biggest all time rippoff that will eventually kill the middle class for good.
Yes, MJ obviously knew the score, ....I hope his children will not suffer .....I wonder who will raise them.
merlincove
25-07-2009, 01:03 AM
I have just read the thread, watched over an hour of vids......
It all seems so well planned to the day.....when the Energy bill passed....the next biggest all time rippoff that will eventually kill the middle class for good.
Yes, MJ obviously knew the score, ....I hope his children will not suffer .....I wonder who will raise them.
lets hope that they don't end up with that bastard of a father eh?
The way michaels family and 'close friends' were around that girl as she spoke and cried in front of millions of people - i don't think she wanted to be there, it looked so orchestrated like it was grandad's idea and she had to go along with it.
I just pray that they are able to lead a life away from the abuse and fear Michael had as a child. i think that they will be ok. Here's hoping that therir mother has a part in their lives.
consciousness84
25-07-2009, 03:36 AM
I just recalled something odd about Tommy Mottola.
If I am correct, Mariah Carey was married to him until around 1996. Around this same time, she came out with her "Butterfly" album (note: MK Ultra/Monarch)
Sorry if someone mentioned this earlier, but I didn't see it.
gaias child
25-07-2009, 07:51 AM
Yes Mark, absolutely!
When you see how he was speaking out against the media and its control and manipulation, its obvious he was threatened and set up with those child allegations.
Sure, he openly said he slept in same bed but I believe it was innocent as MJ is very childlike to me, big ole kid.
How come no other children came forth and all the child stars says MJ never violated them in any way, however the same ones claim other adults in the industry have!
I don't believe he could harm a fly.
Agreed, This book covers the court case by a journalist who believed he was guilty until she saw the court transcripts, what the media did and the prosecution
Michael Jackson Conspiracy: Amazon.co.uk: Tom Mesereau, Aphrodite Jones: 9780979549809: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61dmNMQpJ4L.@@AMEPARAM@@61dmNMQpJ4L
The prosecution paid for its expert witnesses 80 in total more money was spent on this prosecution than any in history, and at the end of the day they could find nothing incriminating against MJ. The people were proven to be fraudulent extortionist liars as they had done this kind of thing before. MJ had paid for the sick child cancer treatment as he had done for many other thousands of sick children whose parents couldn't afford treatment, despite it being paid for by the husband's medical insurance, other celebrites were also paying this family, but they got wise to them whereas MJ was a soft touch.
Mj believed that tptb behind sony were behind it all
I never really get why people think just because he spent time with children and they spent time in his suite, they use the word bedroom but it was a suite of rooms, this meant it was proof he was a child abuser. The reason why he liked spending time with children, is that he enjoyed playing kids games because he never did any as a achild he just worked and he felt they were the only people who understood him and would not manipulate him like adults, he also like spending time with animals and in nature.
Many did testify in his defense such as Maculcay Culkin and others.
Anyway he was found not guilty by every single juror on every single count, I really think if h had been guilty they would have been able to find something incriminating. I wish people would remember he was found innocent and to remember the media did not report anything relevant that was in the trial, just sound bites. They wanted him to be guilty.
gaias child
25-07-2009, 07:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZ3n-kEJHc
SHOUT
Ignorance of people purchasing diamonds and necklaces,
And barely able to keep the payments up on their lessons,
And enrolled in a class and don't know who the professor is,
How low people go for the dough and make a mess of things,
Kids are murdering other kids for the fun of it,
Instead of using their mind or their fist, they put a gun in it
Wanna be a part of a clique, don't know who's running it,
Tragedy on top of tragedy you know it's killing me.
So many people in agony, this shouldn't have to be,
Too busy focusing on ourselves and not His Majesty,
There has to be some type of change for this day and age,
We gotta rearrange and flip the page,
Living encaged like animals and cannibals,
Eating each other alive just to survive the nine to five,
Every single day is trouble while we struggle and strive
Peace of mind's so hard to find.
I wanna shout, throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout
You know it makes me wanna shout,
Throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout, c'mon now
Problems, complications and accusations
Dividing the nations and races of empty faces
A war is taking place.
No substitution for restitution, the only solution for peace
Is increasing the height of your spirituality.
Masses of minds are shrouded, clouded visions
Deceptions and indecision, no faith or religion, how we're living.
The clock is ticking, the end is coming, there'll be no warning,
But we live to see the dawn.
How can we preach, when all we make this world to be
Is a living hell torturing our minds.
We all must unite, to turn darkness to light,
And the love in our hearts will shine.
We're disconnected from love, we're disrespecting each other
Whatever happened to protecting each other
Poisoned your body and your soul for a minute of pleasure,
But the damage that you've done is gonna last forever.
Babies being born in the world already drug addicted and afflicted,
Family values are contradicted.
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, the pressure is building and I've had enough.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/26/geraldos-2005-michael-jackson-interview/ - I know its fox news but, hey hey hey.
Great song and lyrics, thanks for posting
gaias child
25-07-2009, 07:57 AM
I just recalled something odd about Tommy Mottola.
If I am correct, Mariah Carey was married to him until around 1996. Around this same time, she came out with her "Butterfly" album (note: MK Ultra/Monarch)
Sorry if someone mentioned this earlier, but I didn't see it.
What is the significance of "butterfly" album (note MK ultra/Monarch. )
consciousness84
25-07-2009, 08:05 AM
What is the significance of "butterfly" album (note MK ultra/Monarch. )
the butterfly represents MK Monarch, a govt based mind control program. There is info on it on google.
mountain
25-07-2009, 04:09 PM
:):):)Agreed, This book covers the court case by a journalist who believed he was guilty until she saw the court transcripts, what the media did and the prosecution
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-Jackson-Conspiracy-Aphrodite-Jones/dp/0979549809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248504053&sr=8-1
The prosecution paid for its expert witnesses 80 in total more money was spent on this prosecution than any in history, and at the end of the day they could find nothing incriminating against MJ. The people were proven to be fraudulent extortionist liars as they had done this kind of thing before. MJ had paid for the sick child cancer treatment as he had done for many other thousands of sick children whose parents couldn't afford treatment, despite it being paid for by the husband's medical insurance, other celebrites were also paying this family, but they got wise to them whereas MJ was a soft touch.
Mj believed that tptb behind sony were behind it all
I never really get why people think just because he spent time with children and they spent time in his suite, they use the word bedroom but it was a suite of rooms, this meant it was proof he was a child abuser. The reason why he liked spending time with children, is that he enjoyed playing kids games because he never did any as a achild he just worked and he felt they were the only people who understood him and would not manipulate him like adults, he also like spending time with animals and in nature.
Many did testify in his defense such as Maculcay Culkin and others.
Anyway he was found not guilty by every single juror on every single count, I really think if h had been guilty they would have been able to find something incriminating. I wish people would remember he was found innocent and to remember the media did not report anything relevant that was in the trial, just sound bites. They wanted him to be guilty.:)
les_paul_robot
25-07-2009, 04:48 PM
the butterfly represents MK Monarch, a govt based mind control program. There is info on it on google.If I remember rightly, up til Mariah's divorce from that 'devil' her album covers had just one side and one eye of her face showing. After the divorce it was her whole face.
mountain
26-07-2009, 02:11 AM
I just recalled something odd about Tommy Mottola.
If I am correct, Mariah Carey was married to him until around 1996. Around this same time, she came out with her "Butterfly" album (note: MK Ultra/Monarch)
Sorry if someone mentioned this earlier, but I didn't see it.
Yes she was, yep. She was wearing all black and everything at that time, remember?! He looks like a perv to me :eek:
joe911
26-07-2009, 02:56 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Listen to how he says "maybe he knows something none of us do,we will just have to wait and see"
mountain
26-07-2009, 04:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpVdXGua94I
Listen to how he says "maybe he knows something none of us do,we will just have to wait and see"
:) Thanks Joe!
gaias child
28-07-2009, 06:44 AM
How about that for a reason? Make sure to read the comment at the bottom twice -->
http://i27.tinypic.com/24dld7a.jpg
Does it get clearer now for you guys?
For those who don't know who Karen Faye is, she was one of Michael's closest friends for 20 years and his personal make-up and hair artist.
Michael was a damn courageous person and most people on this planet won't ever grasp what a light being he really was.
While Dr. Conrad Murray is definitely not the only one involved in MJ's death it's interesting to note that he's a freemason as you can read in this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html?mrp).
Why has the Karen Faye link to info been removed, has she deleted it about Mj message for healing the world because she now says on recent interview today that MJ was addicted to drugs, and no mention of that, and I was going to post this bit and find it is deleted.
it just gets more and more mysterious, is it because she is lying or because she is afraid
free_soul
28-07-2009, 07:16 AM
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRI1VnQAEc
In the speacial with Martin Bashir he was also talking about they want to take family values and love away hence the reason his son is nicknamed blancket and the reason he got in so much trouble to hugging kids.
lordzoma
28-07-2009, 07:51 AM
These two videos were enlightening.
mountain
28-07-2009, 12:46 PM
In the speacial with Martin Bashir he was also talking about they want to take family values and love away hence the reason his son is nicknamed blancket and the reason he got in so much trouble to hugging kids.
:)
elixirsoo
29-07-2009, 09:19 PM
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRI1VnQAEc
Hi mountain :)
Thank you so much for posting this video! I also believe MJ was murdered, just like John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix. I have a friend who was close to Jimi Hendrix and in regular correspondence with him. She has always insisted the drugs didn't kill him and that he was murdered.
I also trust the maker of the series of videos, earthslasthope, who does amazing research and is constantly having his channel(s) suspended by You Tube.:(
I'm glad to see this thread - MJ's murder and the timing of the 'memorial' need to be fully discussed. :)
zyphus
29-07-2009, 10:04 PM
I was a big Michael Jackson fan when I was 8. I didn’t know it at the time, but I was his ‘type.’
joe911
29-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Its great when people allow you to see what they are listening ot on msn,,ive seen loads of people with "they dont care about us" in thier msn names :)
gaias child
31-07-2009, 05:49 AM
How about that for a reason? Make sure to read the comment at the bottom twice -->
http://i27.tinypic.com/24dld7a.jpg
Does it get clearer now for you guys?
For those who don't know who Karen Faye is, she was one of Michael's closest friends for 20 years and his personal make-up and hair artist.
Michael was a damn courageous person and most people on this planet won't ever grasp what a light being he really was.
While Dr. Conrad Murray is definitely not the only one involved in MJ's death it's interesting to note that he's a freemason as you can read in this article (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html?mrp).
So this has now been deleted this what Karen Faye said a day after MJ died on her face book as I cut and pasted at the time.
I know how painful it is to loose this beautiful man....I can barely speak, but I must share with you his reason for getting on stage once again. It wasn't for money or to relaunch his career...it was to send the message that we must HEAL THE WORLD, before it's too late. He wanted to let us know that we have a four year window to get it right, to start walking the highest path, or we will loose the earth.
I want you to know he was full of love for all of you. He was looking forward to making everyone smile, and unite in these difficult times...to make the world a better place.
he was working so hard...and he was so happy when I left him on Wednesday night...this is so difficult.
I don't know why 4 years...all I can do is relay his message.
But now she is saying the opposite, she has deleted it and is now mentioning drugs etc. Something seems fishy. I put this on the MJJ community forum and she asked the forum to remove the whole thread. I wonder why she has changed her mind!!
mountain
06-08-2009, 03:39 PM
Its great when people allow you to see what they are listening ot on msn,,ive seen loads of people with "they dont care about us" in thier msn names :)
Thats cool! I might do the same! :)
mountain
06-08-2009, 03:40 PM
So this has now been deleted this what Karen Faye said a day after MJ died on her face book as I cut and pasted at the time.
But now she is saying the opposite, she has deleted it and is now mentioning drugs etc. Something seems fishy. I put this on the MJJ community forum and she asked the forum to remove the whole thread. I wonder why she has changed her mind!!
Threatened, perhaps?! :confused:
joe911
06-08-2009, 06:42 PM
Threatened, perhaps?! :confused:
I saw a comment over at mjjc and it really made me think that prehaps michael knew this would happen all along,hence "this is it".
The trail of thought i had was that those catalogues he owned was coming up for renewal,michael wouldnt have the money to buy it again,or could be the classic midsommer murders scene. Been the intelect that he was,he thought he could;
Do a few shows [my initial thought was if it was also about his message,he would do one show,broadcast on the highest bidders network.] This would create a butterfly effect,with the same hype we've had laley,all the merchandise,his albums topping the charts etc...etc... He would then easily have the money to pay for the catalogues,thus securing a decent income for his children and his charities.
I think that michael would have known this would happen,or that there would be a very high chance it would never happen,thats why the rehersals were all fimed in HD because the footage ended up selling for 60 million,and it will make alot more than that when its released;the jackson estate gets 90% of the profits.
Either way michael would win.
The comment from mjjc was about the cinema release,someone said when the credits come up,that is it,no more michael.:(
I guess we will have to wait till the 30th of october to find out what he had planned.
mountain
14-08-2009, 05:49 PM
I saw a comment over at mjjc and it really made me think that prehaps michael knew this would happen all along,hence "this is it".
The trail of thought i had was that those catalogues he owned was coming up for renewal,michael wouldnt have the money to buy it again,or could be the classic midsommer murders scene. Been the intelect that he was,he thought he could;
Do a few shows [my initial thought was if it was also about his message,he would do one show,broadcast on the highest bidders network.] This would create a butterfly effect,with the same hype we've had laley,all the merchandise,his albums topping the charts etc...etc... He would then easily have the money to pay for the catalogues,thus securing a decent income for his children and his charities.
I think that michael would have known this would happen,or that there would be a very high chance it would never happen,thats why the rehersals were all fimed in HD because the footage ended up selling for 60 million,and it will make alot more than that when its released;the jackson estate gets 90% of the profits.
Either way michael would win.
The comment from mjjc was about the cinema release,someone said when the credits come up,that is it,no more michael.:(
I guess we will have to wait till the 30th of october to find out what he had planned.
Hmm interesting Joe.
I wonder what he was going to say about 2012?
clint_giles
14-08-2009, 06:35 PM
i think i may have made another brainwashed mistake.?
this world we live in SUCKS.
mountain
14-08-2009, 07:19 PM
i think i may have made another brainwashed mistake.?
this world we live in SUCKS.
What makes you say that Clint? :confused:
clint_giles
14-08-2009, 07:57 PM
about this guy michael jackson..
about everything reAlly.
we are being lied to on a grand scale and i think this is another piece in that lie puzzle...and it has an infinite amount of pieces by the way...
just taking everything now that i hear or see with a grain of salt,until my mind knows 100% about it.
mountain
14-08-2009, 08:01 PM
about this guy michael jackson..
about everything reAlly.
we are being lied to on a grand scale and i think this is another piece in that lie puzzle...and it has an infinite amount of pieces by the way...
just taking everything now that i hear or see with a grain of salt,until my mind knows 100% about it.
Oh yes, good thing to do Clint.
This is a massive jigsaw and the pieces been scattered quite a bit, I must say. I believe though that this happening with MJ recently will lead others on the path that will cross us somehow, a flood of many souls are headed this way.
clint_giles
14-08-2009, 08:07 PM
i personally just hope that things happen soon because as each day passes,the more i get sick with society and all the meaningless SHIT that comes with it and the ignorance.
i literally do not want to have anything to do anymore with anyone who is in denial,today i quit my job because of such ignorance.
ive had it..lol
all i need is my sons smile in the morning to keep me going.
now i just need to find a way to make the monthly payments...wifey's check is not gonna cut it.
mountain
29-09-2010, 06:56 PM
:)
rwederfoort
19-08-2011, 04:47 PM
I hope I have HELPED to see his CONSERN not to be able to tell THE TRUTH, that he was to WEAK to PERFORM, and not telll the PUBLIC. But BLESS him for all hos good DEEDS.
Yes, this is ANOTHER MJ thread.
If you watch the following video clip (part 1 provided), you will see him speaking out truth about the conspiracies to his crowds, he used every opportunity to. I remember seeing him in an interview speaking on Princess Diana's 'murder', he was aware of that and did not go into much because he was cut off.
So please people, stop feeding the media's portrayal of him and passing judgment. Do some REAL research before you bicker and judge someone who I consider is a REAL TRUTHER. At least he had the balls to speak out and spread the truth around when all some of you do is whine and argue, which to me is lame and counter-productive...
Please watch vid before you comment, I would appreciate that very much :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRI1VnQAEc
I adore his shyness, so cute.