I give up on trying to inform folk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scotty99]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!

[jammasterj13]

Fuck Facebook.

Keep posting on here, we wanna know your points of view.:)

[polveirbecker]

To me spreading this information is the law of attraction. If people really want to know me then they’ll want to know this stuff. If you put out this information like fundamentalist Christians do then you’re a fundamentalist conspiracy theorist In My Opinion!

Maybe a moderator or a stalker could back me up on here on this assumption -

Did David invite himself onto the Wogan show or did he get invited?

Personally the reason why I think the likes of David Icke and Alex Jones are massive is because they’ve attracted it. They’ve not begged for it like the homeless on the street. Do something interesting and people take notice no matter how many or how little.

[wise haven]

Don't get demoralised Scotty.

If you have woken up to this you are in it for the long game.

It is tough - but have faith in yourself, your beliefs and keep researching the subjects so you are well versed in the subject/s

If you can, try and meet up with like minded people - it is a real moral booster when you can talk to like minded people.

You can't lead the donkeys to water - until they realise they are thirsty.

[scotty99]

Very true, thanks for your posts. Im a bit of a straight talker, and impatient, like you say polveirbecker probably sounds like im preaching. I know facebook is mainstream, but there are quite a few likeminded folk on there. Ban Aspartame, anti NWO groups and such like.

There are friends on there saying OMG swine flu is in our kids school, i posted some info on whats in the vaccines and they dont even check it out, then they wonder why kids have ADD....its good to see how the propaganda works on the public, im seeing everything from a totally new angle, .if they wanna stay ignorant .well:cool:

People have been listening to me regards Aspartame though, so if i can save one kid from retardation!! :D

[ex sheep]

Yes me too.
You know I hate to say this but I really can't stand being around people when they are talking about "anything" because they are just so completely into the system.
I cant stand the TV, radio, newspapers, gosip, or dare I say it even general conversation with people.
I suppose I have been spoiled by just being at a recent meet up, and all I can think about is meeting up again, it really does help, but what a come down when you are home again, well I know I'm not really home in the true sense.

Do you think there is a screw loose somewhere. :confused:

[scotty99]

Id be interested in a meet up, wheres the info on the meet ups please?

[ex sheep]

In the members section.

[illuminumnuts]

Most nights I frequent chat rooms actively trying to wake people up. It can be very demoralising at times, but it is worth it at the end of the day. Like everything in life, the more you do it the better you get at it. I would recommend speaking to your friends one to one more.

[ex sheep]

Sorry for the pun, but if I talk about the illuminati, they think I'm nuts.

[particlepopup]

Don't get demoralised Scotty.

If you have woken up to this you are in it for the long game.

It is tough - but have faith in yourself, your beliefs and keep researching the subjects so you are well versed in the subject/s

If you can, try and meet up with like minded people - it is a real moral booster when you can talk to like minded people.

You can't lead the donkeys to water - until they realise they are thirsty.

I second this motion, we all know that there are still plenty people asleep but its through good people as yourself scotty that help to execute the change we are working toward, surely a slight nudge in the right direction is far better than no nudge at all. Good luck.:D

[illuminumnuts]

Or even a numnuts? :p Try not to use words they haven't heard of. I use the term 'secret group' a lot. I liken them to gangsters. If i'm explaining the Federal Reserve to them I liken it to them giving money back to their employer from their wage packet every week for no reason whatsoever. Explain to them that their wage packet is, in effect, a loan and they haven't actually taken out a loan. Most of them get the fact that the fed is a private bank and that the government could quite easily print currency for them.

[polveirbecker]

Very true, thanks for your posts. Im a bit of a straight talker, and impatient, like you say polveirbecker probably sounds like im preaching. I know facebook is mainstream, but there are quite a few likeminded folk on there. Ban Aspartame, anti NWO groups and such like.

Still feel free to voice your opinions on Facebook by any means. Just don’t hold high expectations of them getting through to your friends.

From experience anyways the most of my friends on Facebook are just people from the past that I lost touch with ages ago and what is from the past should stay in the past. I’ve had nothing but trouble with people who have too much history with me contacting me on Facebook. One night I was in a room with my worse enemy telling how I would of killed him if I wasn’t drunk and this was all thanks to the past inviting me back into their lives.

A great place to voice your opinions on Facebook is in these Ban Aspartame and anti NWO groups. Keep these groups active at least and hopefully people will join because I don’t know one active group on Facebook that has the pace of response like we come to have on here.

There are friends on there saying OMG swine flu is in our kids school, i posted some info on whats in the vaccines and they dont even check it out, then they wonder why kids have ADD....its good to see how the propaganda works on the public, im seeing everything from a totally new angle, .if they wanna stay ignorant .well:cool:

Its their choice to stay ignorant and you can’t force that change. Just like its your choice to be a lunatic in their eyes :rolleyes: But what you still can do is be a human being to them by showing care and compassion. But please don’t get into the whole reason why it has happened unless the conversation is flowing and going that way.

[cpfc12]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!

can you send me a link of your facebook
il try to help you if you want

[scotty99]

Cheers for your views guys, my problem is i say what other people are thinking, so i cant help but try and enlighten, selectively of course (plus i have a blood relative in the "funny handshake club" so got to be careful what i devulge).

I like the keeping to words they know. Unfortunately when you mention David Icke....you get that "but he's a nutter" look..... I guess the powers that be know this, and because he was tarnished on wogan, the masses wont take anything on here seriously???

Although i like what some of the daily mail journos are printing lately, quite open minded, (referring to the 7/7 BBC documentary, and peter hitchens regards ID cards and the data base)


lol @ ex sheep.illuminati gets a suprised reaction, ur right

[antinwo]

Don't give up I haven't given up on the feckers yet:D

[truthsupplier]

Twenty two Winter Solstice since I had my "awakening" and I have yet to look back for anything... I admit the bleeting of the sheeple will get to your nerves, but only if you allow it. Do not falter in your quest for delivery to one`s who would know... small as the numbers look, it does grow geometrically as it is distributed. If your "ripple" does not get where you intended, throw a bigger rock.

with respect,
truthsupplier

[vetis]

same for me..put up all kinds of things about freedoms, chemtrails being admitted and other things..nothing NWO either..no replies.

I put up a song lyric..got 10 replies.

[illuminumnuts]

Or even a numnuts? :p Try not to use words they haven't heard of. I use the term 'secret group' a lot. I liken them to gangsters. If i'm explaining the Federal Reserve to them I liken it to them giving money back to their employer from their wage packet every week for no reason whatsoever. Explain to them that their wage packet is, in effect, a loan and they haven't actually taken out a loan. Most of them get the fact that the fed is a private bank and that the government could quite easily print currency for them.

It's U.S. chat rooms I tend to frequent obviously. I like upsetting the U.S. internet monitors. It's funny that they can't do jack shit about it, as all I do is urge folk to think for themselves and spread factual information. One time I had one of 'them' accuse me of 'inciting the spread of gossip'. LMFAO. I said 'yes, that's exactly what i'm doing and all my gossip is factual. Am I breaking any laws here?' No answer was given.

[pegcityevolve]

Just had a conversation with a friend of mine on Facebook.

Sunshiine: well dont wake us up and the social aspect will b goo
Jayme: lmfao, you see i cant hide this, thats why i cant vibe out there as well, its the truth
THE thruth!
everyone will be awakened whether they like it or not
Sunshiine: they wont like it
we only have two years left to live we might as well live it the way we want to

I remember showing a video called "The NWO for dummies" and she'd shut it off right away with no explanation. It was proof right there in her face and her belief systems revolted. Notice she now believes in 2012 doomsday when I remember clearly telling her that it was the starting of a new age and us waking up to this info is what will cause it. She also believes we are living our lives the way we want to as a society and that's why we don't want to awaken. Like being awakened is a bad thing, it's just hard to cope with all the deceit and mindless sheep (and you can't get mad at them.. they've been horribly manipulated) in your new-found awareness expansion.

[brandonh]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!

Relaying this information can be very frustrating. The reality is that most people are not ready to recieve the info. The thing that you have to remember is...."INFORMATION IS THE KEY" You may be ignored, you may be ridiculed but the bottom line is that as the few come closer and closer to achieving the global version of nazi Germany, people will start wakeing up to the reality that their lives are not what they thought they were. If at that time they have already been exposed to this information, it will all make sense to them and they will know which way to go. People will reject this info. as long as they think the system is working for them. But as soon as that belief changes, AND IT WILL, so will the way they perceive information. Keep up the good work. Always remember that you are not alone.

[northernmonkey]

I gave up about a year ago as I wasn't getting through to anybody. If someone brings up opart of the subject then I will let them know but this hasen't happened yet. Ive been awake 3 years now and haven't met even 1 awake person in real life. The day I meet a awake person will be like winning the lottery for me then we can have a good conversation!

[decode reality]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!

Believe me, you are one of many! When I saw your post, I smiled in recognition. Not laughing AT it but just understanding that this is exactly the emotion I've felt lately.

You know what? Until you say in your status update "I'VE GOT SWINE FLU!! :-( WHAT AM I GONNA DO??", ain't nobody gonna say squat.

[skaarlaw]

Facebook is a sin for every DI forumer. Including me.

I get tagged as conspiracy boy"" at school (aswell as a gamer, but that's obvious), yet the HILARITY in it is that I don't actually mention conspiracies, because they're over-done and I seek knowledge and truth in all aspects not just the hidden.
To add to that... They mention stuff I know for a fact I have not mentioned, but I am fully aware of. So they've been obviously reading up on it otherwise they won't be able to try to use it against me. Give someone a hard time for A and do A yourself... good plan!

[disorder2k8]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!

Being on facebook wont get you anywhere, most people on there are braindead

[les_paul_robot]

I gave up about a year ago as I wasn't getting through to anybody. If someone brings up opart of the subject then I will let them know but this hasen't happened yet. Ive been awake 3 years now and haven't met even 1 awake person in real life. The day I meet a awake person will be like winning the lottery for me then we can have a good conversation!One day this will happen for me down here! I'm sure of it.
There's an older guy I see every now and then in a bar I go to and I try and tell him stuff. The last time I saw him he said "oh, you're that really cynical guy!" But he agrees on vaccines and the money scam so it's getting somewhere.
Never give up though;
a quitter never wins
a winner never quits

And we're gonna stuff the NWO and they know it! From behind to win 5-3 at the final whistle! :)

[rawvegan]

How can you teach a blind man to see?

The thing is i tried this a while ago, and realized it is an anti-social thing. It is a sensitive topic, people like comfortable topics.

Getting drunk, meeting girls/guys, hating work etc. Is something they will do over and over again.

When you bring up say a topic about any conspiracy theory, no matter how speculative or how factual, people will think "if i reply everyone on my list will think i'm nuts, if i ignore it, then everything is ok"

I gave up on "awakening" people because you cannot awaken anyone. They need to get up themselves, learn, rationalize what is going on. Some understand it, and just chose ot ignore it because the conspiracy is so great and is a threat to their comfort and current way of life.

Children often run away from reality by doing the same thing, they "play" or "pretend" to be something else and ignore their surroundings.

People are programed to say No to this type of thing anyways...

general change is always bad, suppressing the problem makes everything better so logn as if you don't think about it.

for example a person in debt is in debt for 4 months of the amount of 10, 000. Instead of realizing they made bad buying choices, they often resolve to just pay the minimum or dump the credit through various credit cards. it solves the problem for hte next 30 days. So what is the problem???

The truth movement is filled with people who think they are awake byt truly are just following the order of someone else. May it be David Icke or Alex Jones or who ever.

Bottom line is that you jsut need to focus on yourself, understanding what is going on. Change your life accordingly and when people realize what greatness you have accomplished they will tag along.

[illuminumnuts]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=359924937663867563

That is what 'really' woke me up. One damn video I stumbled upon while surfing. If anyone hasn't seen it yet I would watch it. It tells so much on so many things.

[coco]

My beloved friends and relatives just ignore me politely so I know what you mean. While you love your friends and relatives and suffer disappointment dont give up. Stay in touch with like minded people. Introduce your thoughts to friends slowly and gently. Either it will spark interest or it won't but if it doesn't it will not be because you have failed but rather their ears have.

[polveirbecker]

Bottom line is that you jsut need to focus on yourself, understanding what is going on. Change your life accordingly and when people realize what greatness you have accomplished they will tag along.

Its where I feel people get it wrong. Spend far too much time focusing on other people than themselves.

[dude111]

Fuck Facebook.

Keep posting on here, we wanna know your points of view.:)I agree........ Facebook,Myspace,etc are fucking loser hang outs!!

I also get pissed @ people for not wanting to hear this info..... They call me stupid,etc.....

Im about @ the point of saying: FUCK YOU ALL WHO DONT WANNA BE INFORMED AND POSSIBLY KEEP YOURSELF SAFE FROM THIS!!

Its hard doing that however when LOVED ONES are amoung the ignorant your trying to help!

[torus]

Fuck Facebook.

Keep posting on here, we wanna know your points of view.:)

Thumbs UP!!

[ryanhodgson]

You have to realize that people don't respond to being told something that opposite to their reality. They've been brainwashed to shut their brain off as soon as they hear something foreign.

Put yourself in their shoes. I know that I would have responded the same way a year ago. You have to get people to think for themselves -isn't this remarkable how this is so difficult for people???

So rather then telling them, ask them some questions, mostly rehtorical.

For example, if the conversation has something to do with a story in the media, ask them - why do you believe everything you here in the media? Don't answer the question for them, if the result is dead air then so be it - maybe they are thinking! Perhaps you will have to ask the question again if the answer is fluff.

Have you ever asked yourself who owns and controls all the media?

Have you ever asked yourself why we have a national debt and who do we owe the money too?

Have you ever really asked yourself why nothing ever changes after an election?

There is a question for everything since this dominates every aspect of our life. All you have to do is plant a seed, and someday that seed will be awakened to grow when they are ready.

[nicolaj]

My family and friends have started to listen to what I'm telling them. At first they thought I was losing it..maybe they still do..but are too kind to say otherwise..lol some of my family have began noticing things for themselves now.

[Ian2day]

Awakening is a personal thing. theres no point shaeing this info with your family and friends as it could lead to you being alienated by them as they defend society to the max. The most you're likely to achieve is that some politicians are corrupt. People just dont want to see that the world is fucked up by design. They really dont want to admit that they have to stop passing responsibility onto others for the running of the show.

[pegcityevolve]

I agree........ Facebook,Myspace,etc are fucking loser hang outs!!

I also get pissed @ people for not wanting to hear this info..... They call me stupid,etc.....

Im about @ the point of saying: FUCK YOU ALL WHO DONT WANNA BE INFORMED AND POSSIBLY KEEP YOURSELF SAFE FROM THIS!!

Its hard doing that however when LOVED ONES are amoung the ignorant your trying to help!Yes, fuck everybody. They've been manipulated to think this way so encourage them otherwise with all you got and keep trying, don't give up. Plenty of my family has gone to facebook and many others so it's an easy way to spread info like here or youtube. David Icke has a facebook for a reason. There's also a group with over 2000 members called "Exposing The New World Order".

[fallensoul]

I keep teaching some things to my friends that they did not know, which I know to be factual, to make them think. I have opened up one persons eyes :D he will listen to my ramblings and engage in them. Sadly he is just one person in my circle of friends.

[1971]

sometimes it pointless, its either they dont want to hear it or that part of there brain just doenst exist....
even my OH says I read this site too much...there are certain things though that he realises are true.
Sometimes I confuse myself and when I try and explain things they just dont come out right - I need one of those Dummies guide to explaining the truth to people! :)

[vreeswijk]

To me spreading this information is the law of attraction. If people really want to know me then they’ll want to know this stuff. If you put out this information like fundamentalist Christians do then you’re a fundamentalist conspiracy theorist In My Opinion!

Maybe a moderator or a stalker could back me up on here on this assumption -

Did David invite himself onto the Wogan show or did he get invited?

Personally the reason why I think the likes of David Icke and Alex Jones are massive is because they’ve attracted it. They’ve not begged for it like the homeless on the street. Do something interesting and people take notice no matter how many or how little.

i've had a long standing belief that if you want to change the world, you need to change yourself first and set an example. most people do not like a preacher on a podium telling them what to do or what's right or wrong. not too many people are inspired by someone who only speaks, they are inspired by people who live and act their philosophy. please don't take this as a condescending comment, it was not meant to be. basically nobody is inspired to change their lives by someone talking at them, their natural tendency will be to either resist, let the words roll off of them, or have a temporary feeling that dissipates because it does not become integrated.

becoming a self-actualized individual will cause others to take notice of and admire your success, and they will be curious about how you achieved your fulfillment in life. becoming self-actualized basically involves achieving success through doing what you are passionate about... and the definition of success and wealth should not be meaured by financial income, true wealth comes in the form of happiness and access to experiences/activities that are fulfilling. when you exude these qualities, people will come to you as opposed to you trying to reach out.

[vienna]

I have been trying to pass on some information of what i have learnt on here, but to no avail.:mad: I kept it straightforward, no mention of NWO or illuminati, just some antiterrorist vids on how courts, police etc are for profit companies, and whats in flu vaccines etc.

I linked these in facebook but really got no comments ! people really are in a bubble..........course if u post "Oh im feeling terrible, got well pissed last night, ...top night" I'll get lots of comments.

Has anyone else had the same trouble.

I came across this site researching the US company "Monsanto" after one of their pesticides poisoned me. the rabbit hole runs deep!


I hear you, it's called the hive mind

listen to this interview Sofia Smallstorm on RIC radio

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090702.php

it will ease the pain a bit of why even when you put the evidence before some peoples eyes they still cannot see :)- she begins by talking about 911 but expands into this phenomenon of 'Hive Mentality' and peoples refusal to accept any truth, and a good way of understanding it - you'd be surprised at her revelations

[scotty99]

Great advice and valued opinions and responses, wow thanks for taking the time to post. Yep we cant force people to wake up. I have keep it topical/political and away from conspiracy angles, with the swine flu for instance.

I get the fuck facebook thinking, but i became enlighted by accident, so if one post on facebook can get someone questioning whats going on,(ie- asking "whats in the vaccines that i blindly accept?") then it i'll be worth it? may be , may be not. If we just keep it to this site, we will just be pushing an open door. I think we should at least give them the opportunity to wake up, even if 99.9% reject it. I think i will take it easy, and be selective on what i post on there, like you guys and gals say, can come across as a nutter, as we have been conditioned since birth to act think in a certain way.

Its great though now watching how the media etc like BBC condition people with psychology,and myspace and facebook relays the results in peoples mentalities ...its like watching those programs that tell you how the magicians tricks are done, once you know how its done, you smack your head in how simple the illusion is!!

If anyone is on facebook, PM me and we can "become friends"......i may even poke you!


SHEEP SHEEP EVERYWHERE, THE LITTLE WOOLY F***ERS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE

[steevo]

All you have to do is plant seeds of thought in people's heads. That is ALL. No more is needed.

You need to do this gently. Have a calm discussion with people, and when possible, inject little seeds into their minds. You can do this by asking THEM questions - That is how the great philosopher Socrates did it supposedly. No preaching is necessary, and most importantly, the person that you are talking to does NOT have to BELIEVE a single word that you are saying. Your job is to plant the seeds.

[redskywalker]

I decided yesterday to tackle the vaccine issue with 2 of my neighbours. I braced myself and paced my breathing, and, after my first opening sentence! they took over:eek::D lol how brilliant. So lol I now know from them both my next door neighbours and both neighbours directly across believe it's better to let disease run it's course, how modern medicines don't work etc:D back to our great-grandparents methods, lol, they even know the pandemics are army based. lol. I think many many more than I thought are awake/ning , maybe it's simply most people haven't been as vocal as some, but could be more aware. :D feels cool having brill neighbours.