PDA

View Full Version : Human rights activist kidnapped and killed


monkeyboy
15-07-2009, 11:55 PM
Human rights activist kidnapped and killed in the Caucasus



Human rights activist kidnapped and killed in the Caucasus - YouTube



Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:07am EDT

Human rights worker abducted in Chechnya

MOSCOW (Reuters) - A prominent human rights campaigner in Russia's turbulent Chechnya region was abducted on Wednesday as she left her home, her colleagues at the Russian organization Memorial said.

Natalia Estemirova was pushed into a white car by several assailants as she left for work at 0830 local time (0430 GMT), her colleague Yekaterina Sokiryanskaya said.

"We are not excluding the possibility that she was abducted and we feel this is what most likely happened," said Sokiryanskaya, who works with Estemirova in Memorial's office in the Chechen capital Grozny.

A spokesman for Chechnya's leader, ex-rebel turned Kremlin loyalist Ramzan Kadyrov, said they were unaware of any disappearance. Russia's interior ministry could not be immediately reached for comment.

New-York based human rights group Human Rights Watch (HRW) said Estemirova was abducted as she was working on "extremely sensitive" cases of human rights abuses in Chechnya.

"There is no shred of doubt that she was targeted due to her professional activity," said Tanya Lokshina, HRW's Russian researcher in Moscow.

"We know she was abducted and HRW is demanding the Kremlin and Kadyrov that she be returned home safely."

(Reporting by Amie Ferris-Rotman and Aydar Buribayev; Editing by Robin Pomeroy)
__________________

illuminumnuts
16-07-2009, 03:49 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8153115.stm

It's confirmed that they killed her. It wasn't looking promising after the abduction story broke though. Very depressing.

monkeyboy
16-07-2009, 03:28 PM
i suppose it sends the message dont report on human rights no matter how well known you are. i bet there wont be many ready to report on human rights issues there now :( the real perpitrators of this crime will probably never be brought to justice it just makes me so sick to think that some people think it is ok to take the life of another human being just because they dont agree with them. i hope in 2012 they are left behind in their neanderthal mentalities and to go the way of the dinosaurs.

:mad: MB.

mynameis
16-07-2009, 10:33 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Hate Crimes - Russia - YouTube

illuminumnuts
16-07-2009, 10:59 PM
The real perpitrators of this crime will probably never be brought to justice.

Not any time soon, that's for sure.

monkeyboy
16-07-2009, 11:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0fUuOtyaVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWZ8hBWNHKs


thanks for posting mynameis more missguided youth :( who knows what they have been throught to make them so desensitized and filled with hate for other human beings. oh wait they told us who was guiding them the police and the government.

monkeyboy
16-07-2009, 11:11 PM
Not any time soon, that's for sure.

i think the buck should stop at the top of the pyrimid and not the bottom.;)

pduffy4
17-07-2009, 12:25 AM
Dreadful.:mad:

icerg
17-07-2009, 04:01 PM
RIP Natalia Estemirova

godgoo
17-07-2009, 04:05 PM
Can't stand shit like this. It really gets to me when innocent people get killed. I have to say Russia is one of the sickest places on the planet. I say the right to bare arms, for every man woman and child. Globally. And blow these MOFOs away

monkeyboy
17-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Can't stand shit like this. It really gets to me when innocent people get killed. I have to say Russia is one of the sickest places on the planet. I say the right to bare arms, for every man woman and child. Globally. And blow these MOFOs away

i can understand your frustration but would we be any better than them? we loose the moral high ground and the point we were making :( what i would like to know is was it any better under communist rule you didn`t seem to hear any reports like this or is that because they were better at keeping it quiet is there anyone on the fourum from the area that could tell us?

godgoo
17-07-2009, 04:28 PM
Frustrated? I feel sick, monkeyboy :) This just another reason why Australia in my opninion is the better place to be, by far. plenty of guns and loads ammo for the masses. :) safest place to be.

monkeyboy
17-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Frustrated? I feel sick, monkeyboy :) This just another reason why Australia in my opninion is the better place to be, by far. plenty of guns and loads ammo for the masses. :)

i would agree if it were just the group of skin heads as in the video trying to attack your family. but it is no good for fighting the govrnment it would just end like waco. and the way things are i`m not sure any country is any better than another at the moment they all have civil rights abuses going on. but one thing i`m sure of we won`t win this with violence.

godgoo
17-07-2009, 04:51 PM
Violence is the last resort, no doubt. It can be won with violoence but both sides essentially lose something. No one wins really in war we know this. But I believe that murder is moral to preserve ones life. I would never attack only in self defence. and when people are dictating with a gun, then the only way to get their compliance is with a gun. And should only be used when running away is not possible.

romas
17-07-2009, 10:23 PM
Kadyrov(like Medvedev) is Putins puppet, they've killed her to stop other from coming and exposing Russian Federal Mafia.

monkeyboy
17-07-2009, 10:29 PM
Kadyrov(like Medvedev) is Putins puppet, they've killed her to stop other from coming and exposing Russian Federal Mafia.

hi romas are you in or from Lithuania? if so thanks for the information i would trust somthing i read hear as first hand information rather than any media.

cheers MB.

monkeyboy
11-08-2009, 09:48 PM
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/f10846ff320e767c079bd7a461472bb7.htm

Russia: Find Activist Missing in Chechnya
11 Aug 2009 22:23:20 GMT
Source: Human Rights Watch
Reuters and AlertNet are not responsible for the content of this article or for any external internet sites. The views expressed are the author's alone.
(Moscow) - A civil society activist and her husband were taken from the office of a nongovernmental organization in Grozny, Chechnya on August 10, 2009 by armed men, and their whereabouts are unknown, raising fears that that they may have been "disappeared" in retaliation for the activist's work, Human Rights Watch said today.
Two armed men entered the office of the group, Save the Generation, at about 2 p.m., witnesses said. The men said they were members of the security services and demanded that Zarema Sadulayeva, the head of the organization, and her husband, Alik (Umar) Lechayevich Dzhabrailov, come with them. They did not say where they were taking the couple. They had not been heard from as of 9:30 p.m., and Russian authorities had not responded to inquiries about the couple's whereabouts by the Russian human rights organization Memorial.
"Human Rights Watch is extremely concerned about the fate of Zarema Sadulayeva and Alik Dzhabrailov," said Holly Cartner, Europe and Central Asia director at Human Rights Watch. "The shocking murder of Natalia Estemirova only last month has made it obvious that activists in Chechnya are being targeted for their work and are extremely vulnerable."
Estemirova, a prominent human rights activist and researcher for Memorial in Grozny, was abducted and later found killed on July 15, 2009.
Shortly after Sadulayeva and Dzhabrailov were taken away, the men who had taken them returned to the organization's office and took Dzhabrailov's mobile phone and his car, a gray VAZ 2110, with a license plate ending in 237.
Save the Generation is a nongovernmental organization in Chechnya founded in 2001 that provides psychological and physical rehabilitation to disabled children, orphans, and other socially vulnerable groups. The group also works closely with UNICEF, among other groups, to provide training about landmines, and promotes protection of the rights of the disabled.
"If the authorities have officially detained Sadulayeva and Dzhabrailov, they should reveal their location and the legal basis for holding them and guarantee their rights," Cartner said. "This includes an absolute prohibition on ill-treatment, their right to inform their relatives of their whereabouts, and access to a lawyer of their choosing."
The detention of anyone followed by a refusal to acknowledge this detention, or by concealment of the fate or whereabouts of the detained person, constitutes an enforced disappearance, a crime under international law that is prohibited in all circumstances.

yozhik
11-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Can't stand shit like this. It really gets to me when innocent people get killed. I have to say Russia is one of the sickest places on the planet.
You base this on ... what exactly?

I say the right to bare arms, for every man woman and child. Globally. And blow these MOFOs away
So your answer is to rid the world of Russians??

Wow.

romas
11-08-2009, 10:14 PM
hi romas are you in or from Lithuania? if so thanks for the information i would trust somthing i read hear as first hand information rather than any media.

cheers MB.



Hi m8

Well Lithuanians don't really have any special inside-knowledge, but we have somewhat close ties to people who live(or visit) in Russia and because I speak/read Russian I base my opinion on research from Russian sources etc.

monkeyboy
11-08-2009, 10:23 PM
Hi m8

Well Lithuanians don't really have any special inside-knowledge, but we have somewhat close ties to people who live(or visit) in Russia and because I speak/read Russian I base my opinion on research from Russian sources etc.

as i said i would still trust youself over the media any day as you have closer links with those country`s and understand their way of life etc, thanks for the info :cool: what`s your take on the new case?

rodin
11-08-2009, 10:26 PM
I have to say Russia is one of the sickest places on the planet.

You have poor comparative vision

yozhik
11-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Frustrated? I feel sick, monkeyboy :) This just another reason why Australia in my opninion is the better place to be, by far. plenty of guns and loads ammo for the masses. :) safest place to be.

... and the politicians are incredibly straight, honest and removed from the NWO tentacles ... just like the policy enforcers and the courts ...

:rolleyes:

rodin
11-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Kadyrov(like Medvedev) is Putins puppet, they've killed her to stop other from coming and exposing Russian Federal Mafia.

Now then

Do you know Juri Lina from Estonia? Great books on Russia and Freemasonry. Some thinking people wonder - is Putin 'standing up' to the JWO after Russian experience of Talmudic rule aka communism. I wonder what vibes you are picking up?

romas
12-08-2009, 12:10 AM
as i said i would still trust youself over the media any day as you have closer links with those country`s and understand their way of life etc, thanks for the info :cool: what`s your take on the new case?




I hold no certainty, but this has establishment involved to some degree.

romas
12-08-2009, 12:15 AM
Now then

Do you know Juri Lina from Estonia? Great books on Russia and Freemasonry. Some thinking people wonder - is Putin 'standing up' to the JWO after Russian experience of Talmudic rule aka communism. I wonder what vibes you are picking up?




No, but thanks for mentioning, sounds like it's worth checking out :)

I was more into the likes of Anna Politkovskaja etc. The way I see Putinism is the old imperial approach, their ideas are very hierarchical, top to bottom form of control. What I'm really interested is are Romanov family involved and if so, how much, it would reveal a lot.

leviathanstaar
12-08-2009, 04:17 AM
was she even

investigating government-backed militias in Chechnya?

or in fact Russia?

Just wondering because BBC will say pretty much anything.

leviathanstaar
12-08-2009, 04:21 AM
nevermind thx anyways I found the chech miltias 'or' Russian troops :P