Letter to police stations?

[ps3andhdtv]

How about we all take or send a letter into our local police stations, it could be written by someone on here (there's some clever folk about).

Reminding police that they work as OUR servants and informing them of the agenda for a police state and global government and giving them some info regarding tasers at the same time, there's always different ones working in there so even if it gets ripped up then maybe another would be seen by someone else. They need to know that it's their masters who are corrupt.

This way the whole force might get an idea of how people feel. Some police will already know what's going on and probably support it (some join just because they got bullied at school and want revenge now they're older) but some are genuine and want to do an honest job, it's possible that this could even cause a divide in the force itself.


We could let the police know in large numbers that we want to be protected but not ruled and that when things take a turn for the worse that we hope that they remain on the publics side and not thinking of the general public as terrorists and trouble makers.

Thoughts?

[flyermay]

How about we all take or send a letter into our local police stations, it could be written by someone on here (there's some clever folk about).

Reminding police that they work as OUR servants and informing them of the agenda for a police state and giving them some info regarding tasers at the same time, there's always different ones working in there so even if it gets ripped up then maybe another would be seen by someone else.

This way the whole force might get an idea of how people feel. Some police will already know what's going on and probably support it (some join just because they got bullied at school and want revenge now they're older) but some are genuine and want to do an honest job, it's possible that this could even cause a divide in the force itself.


We could let the police know in large numbers that we want to be protected but not ruled and that when things take a turn for the worse that we hope that they remain on the publics side and not thinking of the general public as terrorists and trouble makers.

Thoughts?

I'm not trying to be negative, but I think the admin (or duty officer) would pick up the letter, pass it to the chief, and this one would put it on a bin or pass it to a PR department, who would get back to us (if lucky), telling us to have confidence in them, that everything will be fine, and that we should go back to watch some more telly.

[avaruus]

they are servants to the goverment in charge. not the people. they are there to serve the people (in power). and to protect the rulers from the people.

[flyermay]

Exactly, the police are the line of defense between "the elite" and "the people"

[ps3andhdtv]

I know what you are both saying, I'm just trying to throw a couple of ideas about really.

Things are starting to get desperate now.

This whole NWO agenda just consumes me and I find it rather hard getting on with other things sometimes. It really bugs me and has done ever since I watched Martial Law 9/11 about 3 years ago.

Playing online poker, watching a bit Wrestling (yeah I know) and going to the occasional rave are the only things that distract me from it all really.

[flyermay]

I know what you are both saying, I'm just trying to throw a couple of ideas about really.

Things are starting to get desperate now.

This whole NWO agenda just consumes me and I find it rather hard getting on with other things sometimes. It really bugs me and has done ever since I watched Martial Law 9/11 about 3 years ago.

I know how you feel, we've all been there.

Now I think it's worth focusing on smaller issues while there's still time, than focusing on unachievable goals beyond our reach (at least until it's the right time).

[merlincove]

a letter to the police is a briliant idea, thou as said, how far it would go is questionable, and whether it would recieve a fair read is negligable at best.

Speaking directly to the police may be the answer, as the video's in London have shown - though we need to remember that when we speak to the police officer we need to be speaking to the man / woman in the uniform, keeping it civil, asking them questions about our fears etc.

You could always tag along to a neighbourhood watch meeting and speak to the officer in that venue, or request an interview. But of course you need to know what you are saying so as not to appear threatening or in a breach of peace?

Speaking to the police human being, the peace officer is a good start if you are brave enough. Asking them about their oath:

http://www.tpuc.org/content/office-constable-explained

asking them if your understanding is correct.

But it will fall into the same pitfalls as writing a letter, whether you get the good cop or the bad cop, or even the good cop on a bad day, or worse still a bad cop on a bad day, and it will reflect on how succesful you are with who you talk to.

But look at the scenario, pc plod has just got back into the station, he's just got back from giving some poor mum / husband / wife / father the news that their son has been killed, he's had to deal with an abusive drunk and a bunch of chavs driving without a licence or insurance. He might not be in the best of moods, and with all the best will in the world, if you hand him your letter it is going in the bin before the 2nd paragraph is read.

Standing outside the police station with a loud hailer might get you noticed, and if you are speaking inteligently and with respect it might even get the message across?

Excellent post though and a great idea

respect to you :D

[ps3andhdtv]

Cheers mate, I really want to start taking some action, it's just what to do and how to do it.

Dr Hemp (a mod on here) lives right near me, I'm hoping to meet up one day soon to have a chat about possible actions we can take in our local area.

I have no issues in approaching officers respectfully about certain issues and encourage others to do the same.

[mondo23]

The oath that police take states clearly that they are to uphold fundamental human rights and accord equal respect to all people. Perhaps a little reminder of that would go a long way because alot of them seem to forget this.

[flyermay]

Cheers mate, I really want to start taking some action, it's just what to do and how to do it.

Dr Hemp (a mod on here) lives right near me, I'm hoping to meet up one day soon to have a chat about possible actions we can take in our local area.

I have no issues in approaching officers respectfully about certain issues and encourage others to do the same.

That's really a good idea, start meeting up to work at a local level.

[merlincove]

Cheers mate, I really want to start taking some action, it's just what to do and how to do it.

Dr Hemp (a mod on here) lives right near me, I'm hoping to meet up one day soon to have a chat about possible actions we can take in our local area.

I have no issues in approaching officers respectfully about certain issues and encourage others to do the same.

intersting, where abouts are you guys, i am on the notts derby borders.

[mystic nomad]

I know what you are both saying, I'm just trying to throw a couple of ideas about really.

Things are starting to get desperate now.

This whole NWO agenda just consumes me and I find it rather hard getting on with other things sometimes. It really bugs me and has done ever since I watched Martial Law 9/11 about 3 years ago.

Playing online poker, watching a bit Wrestling (yeah I know) and going to the occasional rave are the only things that distract me from it all really.

Mate, there's no need to feel like that, things are certainly not desperate, don't buy into their reality, their climate of fear.

Get spiritual and do what you can to educate yourself about the BIG picture and how it all fits together, this may well take you this lifetime but every dot you join will be another realisation that (as someone's sig says) we have already won!

If you are that concerned then do something about it, make some plans, get your kit together, with your poker winnings (:)) buy a decent pair of boots, decent coat and a decent sleeping bag. Find any old bit of land and start growing stuff, so what if someone else knicks it, find more out of the way bits of land and just plant some more. Save your potatoes that have started to sprout and stick em in a hole in the ground. It's as easy as that!!
Get "fighting" fit because who knows, maybe one day you'll need to be or maybe not but at least you'll feel better :D

If you see Police cars driving about or coppers on the beat, ignore them, don't look at them, focus on something else, look straight ahead, refuse to acknowledge their existence. If you avoid trouble and troublesome situations you should be ok. People only have as much power as you let them have. Otherwise go with your letters to every gavver you see and respectfully say something like "excuse me would you please take the time to read this, I think it's important and concerns all of us Human Beings."

Do something that scares you everyday:D

[ps3andhdtv]

intersting, where abouts are you guys, i am on the notts derby borders.

I live in Paignton right next to Torquay in South Devon. Doctor hemp lives about 7 miles from me I believe as he is in Totnes.

[flyermay]

Mate, there's no need to feel like that, things are certainly not desperate, don't buy into their reality, their climate of fear.

Get spiritual and do what you can to educate yourself about the BIG picture and how it all fits together, this may well take you this lifetime but every dot you join will be another realisation that (as someone's sig says) we have already won!

If you are that concerned then do something about it, make some plans, get your kit together, with your poker winnings (:)) buy a decent pair of boots, decent coat and a decent sleeping bag. Find any old bit of land and start growing stuff, so what if someone else knicks it, find more out of the way bits of land and just plant some more. Save your potatoes that have started to sprout and stick em in a hole in the ground. It's as easy as that!!
Get "fighting" fit because who knows, maybe one day you'll need to be or maybe not but at least you'll feel better :D

If you see Police cars driving about or coppers on the beat, ignore them, don't look at them, focus on something else, look straight ahead, refuse to acknowledge their existence. If you avoid trouble and troublesome situations you should be ok. People only have as much power as you let them have.

God, that's really pessimistic; you talk as if everything was lost already (but not desperate).

Resuming: prepare yourself, run, hide, and don't look back.

Are you just being sarcastic. :)

[mystic nomad]

I was a boy scout..... Be prepared n all that :)

I was trying to point out that there's nothing to worry about, but if the OP was worried then switch things around and become pro-active, take control of your own destiny and don't become consumed by someone else's agenda.

[flyermay]

I was a boy scout..... Be prepared n all that :)

I was trying to point out that there's nothing to worry about, but if the OP was worried then switch things around and become pro-active, take control of your own destiny and don't become consumed by someone else's agenda.

It's never a bad idea to be prepared; for everything. ;)

But actually I agree with the OP in that the situation is bad enough to do something about it (whatever little it is).

This must be the most repeated quote on the forum, but:
"it only takes a good man to do nothing for evil to triumph".

[cpfc12]

Good idea of a thread, well most people have realitives or friends who work in the police, so that could be a start, i know of some already who have taken an interest. Speaking to one a while back, a young guy, looked like he was twelve, but he seemed to be a decnent guy, he was saying how the job now consisted of reaching quotas of stopping and searching people for "terrorism" he sounded quite cynical about it, so i guess ones like that you can implant a seed of thought into their minds.

There is more urgent need of action for the different roles in the police however, a letter or some form of communication would provide more useful to say a firearms officer, or tsg officer than say one involved in trading standards, or child protection.

Like i said on a previous thread, many police officers are not going to take notice to the opinions or the voice of the "public" that come mainly from the papers, as they mostly have quite a cynical attitude, which you can't blame them, its a job that desensitises you to most emotions, thats why they prefer recruiting left brain thinkers. The nature of the job involves seeing horrible incidents, and they prefer not too attach themselves to it, otherwise you could imagine. This of course works to the NWO's favour, as they realise the more they treat their officers badly "which they do, serach for sir ian blairs officer's implant on the web, and take in mind they do not have any proper union or representation) in return causes them to be more cynical and closed off from the public.

I partly agree with mystic nomad said, but at the same time you can't boycott them like they have the plague, that will just cause more fear and hate, these are tough times we are living in, and changing times, and we can make a difference, requires everyone to change however, as around 40% of the working force work for the government, and we all in some way support the system which holds us down.

[mystic nomad]

This must be the most repeated quote on the forum, but:
"it only takes a good man to do nothing for evil to triumph".

And true it is too.

So..... as well as respectfully approaching every bobby we see with a well put together letter, we could write out postcards or something with "Google "truth about tasers"" and stick them up in shop windows and notice boards. As well as writing it on every bit of paper money before it flies out our hands.
Would at least be a start.

[gorgeousgertie]

go 'undercover' and change the system from within........

dont go and tell them your views like a good little 'awoken one' (any1,in any way!).........appear to be '1 of them', be 'with them'...........go forth with others and fuck things up from the inside!!!!!!!!!

mebbiz.........I dunno hehehehehe!!!!!!!!!

'''People only have as much power as you let them have.''

Damn right!!!!!!!!!!

[flyermay]

And true it is too.

So..... as well as respectfully approaching every bobby we see with a well put together letter, we could write out postcards or something with "Google "truth about tasers"" and stick them up in shop windows and notice boards. As well as writing it on every bit of paper money before it flies out our hands.
Would at least be a start.

I really need help with that, I've been trying to gather signatures for the online petition in other forums, and not only I don't get any, but I end up pissing off everyone. :rolleyes:

I don't want to think what would happen if I take my campaign to the streets. :D

I was just told that I'm too extremist in my approach, so... how do you approach someone who has no idea of what's really going on with the PTB, and get him to sign up, even when he thinks tasers are the best invention since sliced bread? :confused:

This is what I've been posting (suggestions welcomed):

Are you aware that British police can shoot children with 50,000 volts Tasers?

In the first half of 2008, British police fired Tasers at 28 under-18s
Since 2004 they were brandished 4,046 times and discharged 1,181 times (Mail Online)

There are already 435 Taser related deaths in North America
Amnesty international recommends a suspension on all use of tasers until a rigorous, independent and impartial inquiry into their use & effects is carried out. (Amnesty International)

Worldwide, Tasers have been used on:
* ·Children under 10
* ·Elderly people
* ·Teenagers
* ·Disabled people
* ·Mentally ill patients
* ·Domestic animals
* ·Pregnant women
* ·Pets
* ·Ministers & Professionals

They are known as “The Torture’s Tool of Choice” and are commonly used for torture in China and Libya (Mail Online)

ACT NOW!!!
Protect your rights and Stop any more British officers torturing people into compliance

* Tasers are not a safe alternative
* Tasers are not used as a substitute to firearms
* Tasers are used to torture people into compliance
* Tasers are cattle prods for humans

Sign now the official petition to Ban Tasers at http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/EndTasers/

[merlincove]

I live in Paignton right next to Torquay in South Devon. Doctor hemp lives about 7 miles from me I believe as he is in Totnes.

Ah, a bit too far for my wee legs to carry me :rolleyes:

[jakemaverick]

why would u want to paint a target on your face? they DO complie lists os such people u know.....

are you like a crazy person, or just really niave? ;-)

try reading my story...PM me if u want it!

[ps3andhdtv]

^ Who's this guy on about?

[gorgeousgertie]

someone with a target painted on their face....???

[mystic nomad]

[QUOTE=flyermay;1120077]I really need help with that, I've been trying to gather signatures for the online petition in other forums, and not only I don't get any, but I end up pissing off everyone. :rolleyes:

Sorry can't help with the petiton my signature would count for nothing.
I can see why some would say your too extreme and I'm racking my brains here as to how you can get your message out.
Perhaps try and look at it from the point of view that quaint old England now has armed police.
Maybe drop the points about children (ASBO tearaway teenagers deserve all they get), China (doesn't affect me), torture (WTF are you on about), amnesty Int. (eyes glaze over) etc. etc.

It's a tricky subject to get your points over, there's been so much "positive" media coverage over "non-lethal" weapons and I'm sure pretty much everyone has seen the OB tasering each other during training so much so the man on the street would just see it as a safe alternative to firearms, because we've all been led to believe the streets are awash with guns and knives.

[gorgeousgertie]

best way to get a point to people is to make it real to them, bring it in to affect their life.......
zap em with a taser then they'll sign hehehehe!!!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[yozhik]

The oath that police take states clearly that they are to uphold fundamental human rights and accord equal respect to all people. Perhaps a little reminder of that would go a long way because alot of them seem to forget this.

Section 29 of the Police Act 1996 compels every new member of police force to attest by the making of a declaration. Such a declaration is expressed in Schedule 4 which is shown below.

29. Every member of a police force maintained for a police area and every special constable appointed for a police area shall, on appointment, be attested as a constable by making a declaration in the form set out in Schedule 4-

SCHEDULE 4

FORM OF DECLARATION

" I . . . . . of . . . . . do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will, to the best of my skill and knowledge, discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

[yozhik]

I suggest a Notice served to the police, which is a combination of their oath attesting they will uphold basic human rights, combined with the UN documents which state that taser use is a form of torture, might be a useful combination.

To attest to a declaration protecting human rights, but to actively participate in a course of action declared internationally as torture, is an interesting stance to take.

Given the government is a member of the UN, held to UN policy, then this would also seem to be a dangerous stance given that the policy enforcers are funded by the public, through the parliamentary coffers.

Might make for some interesting tests of logic ... :rolleyes:

[flyermay]

" I . . . . . of . . . . . do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will, to the best of my skill and knowledge, discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

Then, simply every single officer that uses a taser is automaticaly breaking that oath. According the the human rights act of 1998, all citizens have the right not to be tortured and not to receive a degrading treatment.

But I like the part were they declare and affirm that they'll serve the Queen, and not the public. :rolleyes:

[ps3andhdtv]

The Queen who is supposed to be powerless these days. Yeah right :rolleyes:

Nice post Yozhik, a combination of the two documents might work wonders, We need to stand outside every police station in the country on the same day showing these documents to every officer that walks past. We could all do this if we wanted to.

.......................waiting for a sarky comments now from idiots saying. "I don't want to" :D