View Full Version : Obama not U.S. born, can't send me to Afghanistan!
el jefe
15-07-2009, 09:43 PM
Yesterday:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html
By Lily Gordon
The Columbus (Ga.) Ledger-Enquirer
COLUMBUS, Ga. — U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook is seeking a federal court order to stall and eventually prevent an upcoming deployment to Afghanistan.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the United States District Court, Middle District of Georgia — Cook's California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.
Cook further states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command, and that Plaintiff would thus be simultaneously unable to perform his duties in good Rule 65(b) Application for Temporary Restraining Order 22 conscience and yet be simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
Today:
His orders were revoked. What message is the military and the White House sending with this? Other sources:
http://www.military.com/news/article/anti-obama-gis-afghan-orders-revoked.html?col=1186032310810
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/orders-revoked-on-soldier-91503.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/stefan-frederick-cook-sol_n_231383.html
The attorney representing an Army major fighting deployment to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama is not legally his commander-in-chief is declaring victory after the Soldier's orders were revoked yesterday.
California lawyer Orly Taitz says any service member may now refuse any order by questioning Obama's legitimacy.
"Do you know what this means?" Taitz asked in a telephone interview with Military.com Tuesday, about an hour after hearing from Maj. Stefan Cook, the officer fighting his deployment to Afghanistan. "It means the Obama administration has blinked. They have no cards to play with. The moment I filed a lawsuit, they didn't even fight!"
"Can you imagine what are the consequences? This is disastrous" for the administration, she said. "We'll have no military. Because anytime any Soldier, any Sailor, any Airman does not want to follow any orders, all he has to do is call an attorney and say 'I don't want to follow this order because I question the legitimacy of the commander in chief.' "
freedom1st
15-07-2009, 09:48 PM
Yesterday:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html
By Lily Gordon
The Columbus (Ga.) Ledger-Enquirer
COLUMBUS, Ga. — U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook is seeking a federal court order to stall and eventually prevent an upcoming deployment to Afghanistan.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the United States District Court, Middle District of Georgia — Cook's California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.
Cook further states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command, and that Plaintiff would thus be simultaneously unable to perform his duties in good Rule 65(b) Application for Temporary Restraining Order 22 conscience and yet be simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
Today:
His orders were revoked. What message is the military and the White House sending with this? Other sources:
http://www.military.com/news/article/anti-obama-gis-afghan-orders-revoked.html?col=1186032310810
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/orders-revoked-on-soldier-91503.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/stefan-frederick-cook-sol_n_231383.html
The attorney representing an Army major fighting deployment to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama is not legally his commander-in-chief is declaring victory after the Soldier's orders were revoked yesterday.
California lawyer Orly Taitz says any service member may now refuse any order by questioning Obama's legitimacy.
"Do you know what this means?" Taitz asked in a telephone interview with Military.com Tuesday, about an hour after hearing from Maj. Stefan Cook, the officer fighting his deployment to Afghanistan. "It means the Obama administration has blinked. They have no cards to play with. The moment I filed a lawsuit, they didn't even fight!"
"Can you imagine what are the consequences? This is disastrous" for the administration, she said. "We'll have no military. Because anytime any Soldier, any Sailor, any Airman does not want to follow any orders, all he has to do is call an attorney and say 'I don't want to follow this order because I question the legitimacy of the commander in chief.' "
Here's another good link to the story:-
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009
kgone
15-07-2009, 11:21 PM
Yes. It's happening. People are starting to push back. Let's see how many other MSM outlets pick this up. Miami Herald is good. This is a good day. ;-)
kgone
15-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Can I reply again, just to tell you how happy this makes me. Especially after all the lies about ending the war.
alpha
16-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Can I reply again, just to tell you how happy this makes me. Especially after all the lies about ending the war.
you can reply as often as you like mate. like you say, today is a good day!!
torus
16-07-2009, 12:55 AM
he's such a good little "useful idiot" that Obama.
America descending into Communism without a fight!
Pravda Newspaper, Moscow
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.
Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives.
They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blind the foolish.
Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America .
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America ’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, losses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?
These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.
Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too.
Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK ’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.
Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman” whimper.
So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses?
Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort.
He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.
The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left. The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
Stanislav Mishin© 1999-2009. PRAVDA.Ru should be made. The opinions and views of the authors do not always coincide with the point of view of PRAVDA.Ru’s editors.
strengthofknowledge
16-07-2009, 02:12 AM
Spread this. sticky it
strengthofknowledge
16-07-2009, 02:43 AM
everyone should be spreading this to EVERYONE. get your friends and family out of the service-fraud!
alzee
16-07-2009, 03:20 AM
and here:
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/777472.html
strengthofknowledge
16-07-2009, 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7w_Shkywpg
el jefe
16-07-2009, 07:31 PM
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104044
The Department of Defense has allegedly compelled a private employer to fire a U.S. Army Reserve major from his civilian job after he had his military deployment orders revoked for arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
According to the CEO of Simtech Inc., a private company contracted by the Defense Security Services, an agency of the Department of Defense, the federal government has compelled the termination of Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook.
Cook's attorney, Orly Taitz, wrote in her blog that Simtech CEO Larry Grice said he would try to find another position within the company for Cook, but nothing is currently available.
The Department of Defense does contracting in the general field of information technology/systems integration, at which Cook, a senior systems engineer and architect, was employed until taking a military leave of absence on July 10 in preparation for his deployment to Afghanistan.
"Grice told plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become 'nutty and crazy,' and that plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old position," Taitz wrote.
Grice made clear that it was Defense Security Services that had compelled Simtech to fire Cook, Taitz wrote.
According to the report, Grice told Cook "there was some gossip that 'people were disappointed in' the plaintiff because they thought he was manipulating his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes."
The Simtech CEO then discussed Cook's expectation of final paychecks, without any severance pay, and wished the soldier well.
Messages left with Grice's office had not been returned at the time of this report.
"A federal agency (such as the Department of Defense, acting through the Defense Security Services Agency) clearly violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if it takes or fails to take (or threatens to take or fail to take) a personnel action with respect to any employee or applicant because of any disclosure of information by the employee or applicant that he or she reasonably believes evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety," Taitz wrote.
"What has happened in the present case of Stefan Frederick Cook is that a federal agency appears to have taken action against Stefan Frederick Cook's private employer, Simtech, Inc., which is a closely held corporation owned and operated by members of a single family, who are as much victims of the Department of Defense's heavy-handed interference with plaintiff Cook's private-sector employment as is plaintiff Cook himself."
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7306800
size_of_light
16-07-2009, 07:57 PM
As much as I share the joy here, does anyone else think that this was probably planned all along?
I can't see them being that stupid that they'd spend years grooming a guy for the Presidency and not factor his non-citizenship into the equation and the potential ramifications of that.
If this turns into a crisis and then there's suddenly a global emergency, could they pull some special emergency powers out of their asses to retro-actively modify the Constitution at short notice, or some bullshit like that?
Meanwhile Arnie waits in the wings...
skunksmash
16-07-2009, 08:13 PM
As much as I share the joy here, does anyone else think that this was probably planned all along?
I can't see them being that stupid that they'd spend years grooming a guy for the Presidency and not factor his non-citizenship into the equation and the potential ramifications of that.
If this turns into a crisis and then there's suddenly a global emergency, could they pull some special emergency powers out of their asses to retro-actively modify the Constitution at short notice, or some bullshit like that?
Meanwhile Arnie waits in the wings...
gospel ....;)
i believe they purposely went ahead knowing he had no legitimacy, knowing it would quicken decent (as were seeing)
i mean cmon......these ppl have ENDLESS resources.... they could of whipped him up a whole history if they really wanted to, let alone the small feet preparing some legal documents would have been....lol
:)SK
size_of_light
16-07-2009, 08:16 PM
gospel ....;)
i mean cmon......these ppl have ENDLESS resources.... they could of whipped him up a whole history if they really wanted to, let alone the small feet preparing some legal documents would have been....lol
Exactly.
And it's no more outlandish a scenario than it would have been for someone to suggest a few years back that America would now have a Kenyan President. :D
dankai
16-07-2009, 08:41 PM
As much as I share the joy here, does anyone else think that this was probably planned all along?
I can't see them being that stupid that they'd spend years grooming a guy for the Presidency and not factor his non-citizenship into the equation and the potential ramifications of that.
If this turns into a crisis and then there's suddenly a global emergency, could they pull some special emergency powers out of their asses to retro-actively modify the Constitution at short notice, or some bullshit like that?
Meanwhile Arnie waits in the wings...
What better way to cause the greatest threat to National Security and stability to our country? Social collapse, economic collapse, political collapse, etc. The only thing that would compare (imo) is to drop a nuclear bomb on our land.
dankai
16-07-2009, 08:42 PM
gospel ....;)
i believe they purposely went ahead knowing he had no legitimacy, knowing it would quicken decent (as were seeing)
i mean cmon......these ppl have ENDLESS resources.... they could of whipped him up a whole history if they really wanted to, let alone the small feet preparing some legal documents would have been....lol
:)SK
My thoughts are on the same line.
el jefe
22-07-2009, 05:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
Heres the entire lawsuit:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17266905/05311066823
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture-67.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture2-14.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture-68.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk199/RepnPB21/Capture1-29.jpg
and this: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/pol/1271294008.html
Not sure whats going on...
Can anyone find the testimony/list that is Exhibit B? Has there been a known history of any Politicians/Presidents using Dead Citizens SS#'s for personal gain? Kinda like the Simpsons episode..
mrindigo
22-07-2009, 06:15 AM
Yes. It's happening. People are starting to push back. Let's see how many other MSM outlets pick this up. Miami Herald is good. This is a good day. ;-)
This is the kind of action I like. They were beat at their own game. That's how their little house of cards will topple, not with stockpiles of weapons and riots. :)
flip side
22-07-2009, 06:33 AM
What better way to cause the greatest threat to National Security and stability to our country? Social collapse, economic collapse, political collapse, etc. The only thing that would compare (imo) is to drop a nuclear bomb on our land.
This will turn into a black v white thing. How do you destroy a country without dropping one bomb? Turn the people against themselves.
All the folk that question Obama's legitimacy are 'racists'
All the people that stand by the constitution are 'terrorists'
People fight, martial law, constitution null and void...North America Union?
What a happy scenario. Hope I'm wrong.
kgone
22-07-2009, 07:14 AM
I flipped to CNN this afternoon and half caught some report on the "Obama Birth Certificate" issue. The reporter didn't mention this lawsuit, but they showed "evidence" that Obama was born in the US by showing a picture of his birth announcement from a page in a Hawaiian newspaper dated August 4th 1961. This image looked like it came from a xerox or microfilm document. It wasn't a copy of the actual printed paper. Then they proceeded to read twitter and facebook comments regarding the birth certificate and sure enough you hit the nail on the head "racism" and "conspiracy theories ha ha ha'. I looked on CNN's website to backup what I saw this afternoon and couldn't find any links, sorry. Anyone else see this?
Also to answer Size of Light, Skunksmash, Dankai and flipside regarding creating crisis,
political collapse, PRS I don't disagree... but the constitution is pretty clear that VP Biden takes over. This of course is "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". It will serve to further divide this country and explode over racism.
El Jefe, thanks for posting the lawsuit link, I will read it in the morning.
I flipped to CNN this afternoon and half caught some report on the "Obama Birth Certificate" issue. The reporter didn't mention this lawsuit, but they showed "evidence" that Obama was born in the US by showing a picture of his birth announcement from a page in a Hawaiian newspaper dated August 4th 1961. This image looked like it came from a xerox or microfilm document. It wasn't a copy of the actual printed paper. Then they proceeded to read twitter and facebook comments regarding the birth certificate and sure enough you hit the nail on the head "racism" and "conspiracy theories ha ha ha'. I looked on CNN's website to backup what I saw this afternoon and couldn't find any links, sorry. Anyone else see this?
I would love to see this cnn report, it sounds hilarious.
kgone
22-07-2009, 07:58 AM
It was on about 3:00 pm EDT. I didn't recognize the newscaster. He is trying to make himself a "brand" like some of the other chatterboxes. He proudly announced that because he is on in the afternoon, that there were complaints that people couldn't watch him, because they were at work. So, he will have a special show on Friday at 6:00 pm EDT. I will look on the CNN website again to see if I can find something.
yozhik
22-07-2009, 08:47 AM
Also to answer Size of Light, Skunksmash, Dankai and flipside regarding creating crisis,
political collapse, PRS I don't disagree... but the constitution is pretty clear that VP Biden takes over. This of course is "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". It will serve to further divide this country and explode over racism.
Except that Biden is even MORE of a Zionist sympathiser ... if that's at all possible.