Ireland WTF?

[texdallas]

I've started to come around to the idea that Ireland is in some way a testing ground for the NWO in the last two weeks alone we've had

The Criminal "Justice Act" (Allowing Police of any rank to give opinion evidence in a court with no jury!)

The Communications Bill (Will allow the Government to store all electronic data on every Citizen of the State i.e. Email records and Mobile records)

And

The Blasphemy Act http://blasphemy.ie/

The blasphemy law has now been passed in the Dail, as part of Defamation Act, with no debate on the blasphemy amendments. The debate was restricted to an hour (for the full Defamation Bill). Justice Minister Dermot Ahern said that extending time for the blasphemy amendments would just be regurgitating what has been discussed ad nauseum. There was an average of six TDs in the Dail during debate.

All introduced while the Government take their annual 90 day holiday from the Dail. Hence little or no debate on all the above unnecessary legislation.

What the fuck is going on!?

[freckles]

Havent we become a very compliant little country :D

[zero1]

Our politicians are gormless fools, they live the "little country" syndrome and clammer to take it up the ass from the New World Order. Once their pockets are full they don't care; fuck the people.

[freckles]

Our politicians are gormless fools, they live the "little country" syndrome and clammer to take it up the ass from the New World Order. Once their pockets are full they don't care; fuck the people.

Sad; but true :(

Nepotism and greed seems to be the recurring themes lately....

[texdallas]

But why so we're a nation built on subversity what will it take for the people to demand removal of a criminal Government?

[cafetimes1991]

The Republic of Ireland has 66% fluoridation in the water supplies. That is incredible.

[texdallas]

The Republic of Ireland has 66% fluoridation in the water supplies. That is incredible.

It is! Whats the excuse in your country?

[cafetimes1991]

It is! Whats the excuse in your country?

I told my dentist about fluoride, and he brushed my argument aside, shaking his head, saying ''you'll just have to go to medical school and study dentistry like me''. GOD! How annoying.

[texdallas]

I told my dentist about fluoride, and he brushed my argument aside, shaking his head, saying ''you'll just have to go to medical school and study dentistry like me''. GOD! How annoying.

Perhaps he had a point altho I'd rather not drink it.

[mind1universe]

Perhaps he had a point altho I'd rather not drink it.

His point, was conforming is good


I dont think thats a good point however.

[rydeon]

I've started to come around to the idea that Ireland is in some way a testing ground for the NWO in the last two weeks alone we've had

The Criminal "Justice Act" (Allowing Police of any rank to give opinion evidence in a court with no jury!)

The Communications Bill (Will allow the Government to store all electronic data on every Citizen of the State i.e. Email records and Mobile records)

And

The Blasphemy Act http://blasphemy.ie/

The blasphemy law has now been passed in the Dail, as part of Defamation Act, with no debate on the blasphemy amendments. The debate was restricted to an hour (for the full Defamation Bill). Justice Minister Dermot Ahern said that extending time for the blasphemy amendments would just be regurgitating what has been discussed ad nauseum. There was an average of six TDs in the Dail during debate.

All introduced while the Government take their annual 90 day holiday from the Dail. Hence little or no debate on all the above unnecessary legislation.

What the fuck is going on!?

I'll add to that that when people whine and complain about Britains Firearms laws you want to take a look at Irelands! They make us look like Texas!

You cannot own as much as an air-rifle, slingshot or a crossbow without a Firearms Certificate. Sometimes I wonder if the PTB really did ever leave Ireland back in the 20s.

[texdallas]

I'll add to that that when people whine and complain about Britains Firearms laws you want to take a look at Irelands! They make us look like Texas!

You cannot own as much as an air-rifle, slingshot or a crossbow without a Firearms Certificate. Sometimes I wonder if the PTB really did ever leave Ireland back in the 20s.

Wrong please feel free to visit http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/default.asp

or join a gun club and own your own shot gun or rifle. You are expected to have it kept in a purpose built safe however.

If you just wanna pop at the place get your facts straight. But I suppose facts don't seem to matter fuck all round here

[breezinreezin]

Wouldn't it be wonderful, if just one country's government, somewhere in Europe, Ireland maybe, could say: 'We are fine the way we are. We have a rich heritage and culture, bountiful seas, rich land, and we want to preserve it for our people now and for the future. We may not be rich, but what we have we appreciate. We don't want your handouts in return for living by your rules and your agenda. We will go our own way.'

[texdallas]

Wouldn't it be wonderful, if just one country's government, somewhere in Europe, Ireland maybe, could say: 'We are fine the way we are. We have a rich heritage and culture, bountiful seas, rich land, and we want to preserve it for our people now and for the future. We may not be rich, but what we have we appreciate. We don't want your handouts in return for living by your rules and your agenda. We will go our own way.'

Amen

[dreamdruid]

If people can remember just before the end of the so called celtic tiger eara they started to build a motor way through the sacred hill of Tara what I noticed is most Irish people did not really care about this except for a few and I remember whatching on Prime Time some English Proffesor telling the Irish governmet not to do this they of course did not listen to him.
I remember walking around Glastonbury at that particular time and seeing more peacfull protest campaigns in shop windows in Glastonbury about the hills of Tara than anywere in Ireland.
Growing up in Ireland I have always herd the old folk tales of farmers who run down fairy forts meet with bad luck well it looks like they have turned out to be true.

[zero1]

If people can remember just before the end of the so called celtic tiger eara they started to build a motor way through the sacred hill of Tara what I noticed is most Irish people did not really care about this except for a few and I remember whatching on Prime Time some English Proffesor telling the Irish governmet not to do this they of course did not listen to him.
I remember walking around Glastonbury at that particular time and seeing more peacfull protest campaigns in shop windows in Glastonbury about the hills of Tara than anywere in Ireland.
Growing up in Ireland I have always herd the old folk tales of farmers who run down fairy forts meet with bad luck well it looks like they have turned out to be true.

The desecration of the Hill of Tara, former seat of the Irish High King, was a disgrace. I blame Capitalism.

[texdallas]

If people can remember just before the end of the so called celtic tiger eara they started to build a motor way through the sacred hill of Tara what I noticed is most Irish people did not really care about this except for a few and I remember whatching on Prime Time some English Proffesor telling the Irish governmet not to do this they of course did not listen to him.
I remember walking around Glastonbury at that particular time and seeing more peacfull protest campaigns in shop windows in Glastonbury about the hills of Tara than anywere in Ireland.
Growing up in Ireland I have always herd the old folk tales of farmers who run down fairy forts meet with bad luck well it looks like they have turned out to be true.

Incorrect massive protests against in fact when not check them out they'd love you support as would the vast majority of the people of Ireland. You found protests at Glastonbury well shock of all shocks!

http://www.tarawatch.org/

and another fucking thing why would you feel we should give a fuck about the opinion of an ENGLISH Professor I'm sure plenty of Irish academics were dead set against it too. Why should it matter he was English????????? Since when did England give a toss about Ireland. You've never read a history book have you?

Clearly the title of the thread has confused some people from now on consider it called The Irish GOVERNMENT what are they up to. You aint too hot on Economics either.......The fairy's did it!

[gilly]

A number of posts have been edited / deleted.

If you don't want this thread to end up in the rant room, and spam points to be issued, I suggest everyone sticks to debating without the personal insults and unwarranted aggression.

Thank you.

[griswald]

Ireland is indeed a proving ground for the nwo, in every gorey detail, that they intend to inflict on us. When Lenihan bragged about the budget cuts to our european partners. We laughed at our selves, along with them.

We have lost the fighting spirit, we dont question anything, we are happy to give up our rights, we will fight our way to the swine flu clinics. And by our acquiesence we will condemn our european brothers and sisters to the same fate, when we give the Lisbon 2 a landslide victory.

We will bend over, without the ky jelly, and ask for Lisbon 2 to save us.

There are awakened irsihfolk, but not enough. And I,m at the stage where my head cant take much more banging on the wall. At this stage I,d be tempted to let the sheeple ramble there own way.GGrrrr....

We should be marching, but we cant be arsed.........

griswald

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2009/0427/1224245446013.html

ANNE LUCEY in KillarneyMINISTER FOR Finance Brian Lenihan has said the recent budgetary steps taken in imposing the pensions levy and raising taxes had impressed and “amazed” other European countries.

Speaking at the Irish League of Credit Unions conference in Killarney on Saturday, Mr Lenihan said other European governments would not have been able to impose the kind of pain the Government had.

Mr Lenihan said there would be “riots” in France, were the pension levy on public servants to be introduced in that country

[shane]

Not one person in Ireland should vote again on the Lisbon Treaty. These EU assholes ought to be told "Look, we already voted and the answer was no, so FUCK OFF".

There is absolutely NO justification for a second referendum, other than the Euro criminal scumbags refusing to take no for an answer.

What's worse is that fucking snake Tony Blair waiting in the wings, desperate to become president of the EU. The mainstream media won't even mention what a fucking disgrace the very notion of it is. How can this mass-murdering bullshitting bastard be allowed outside a prison cell, let alone be considered for president of fucking Europe.

Christ, this is really pissing me off the more I think about it...

[breezinreezin]

There is absolutely NO justification for a second referendum, other than the Euro criminal scumbags refusing to take no for an answer.



It's not enough to vote no. TPTB will just treat the Irish like naughty children and make the decision for them. There really is only one way and that's to get out of the EU and that's not going to happen unless the people revolt.

[rydeon]

Wrong please feel free to visit http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/default.asp

or join a gun club and own your own shot gun or rifle. You are expected to have it kept in a purpose built safe however.

If you just wanna pop at the place get your facts straight. But I suppose facts don't seem to matter fuck all round here

Here's the facts mate and I've about 5 other links I can dig out:

http://www.cybershooters.org/law.htm#Republic%20of%20Ireland%20-%20overview

Oh and Airsoft is hardly even an air-rifle you can use to hunt game or go plinking or target shooting with.

So yes you can own weapons, I'm not disputing that. But what I am telling you, my Irish compardre, is that Ireland has the most restrictive weapons laws in Europe and quite possibly a democracy aside from Japan (which was due to loosing a war!).

So I will definately say that a countries freedom is measured to a degree with by how much it trusts it's citizens with firearms.

Just look at the USA or Switzerland as examples.

That said though Ireland is certainly more 'chilled out' in the peoples easy-going manners and laissez faire attitude which is very much a breath of fresh air compared to some stuffy realms.

The danger is the people who decide that the 'right thing to do' means voting in more EU restrictions and infringements.

[texdallas]

Here's the facts mate and I've about 5 other links I can dig out:

http://www.cybershooters.org/law.htm#Republic%20of%20Ireland%20-%20overview

Oh and Airsoft is hardly even an air-rifle you can use to hunt game or go plinking or target shooting with.

So yes you can own weapons, I'm not disputing that. But what I am telling you, my Irish compardre, is that Ireland has the most restrictive weapons laws in Europe and quite possibly a democracy aside from Japan (which was due to loosing a war!).

So I will definately say that a countries freedom is measured to a degree with by how much it trusts it's citizens with firearms.

Just look at the USA or Switzerland as examples.

That said though Ireland is certainly more 'chilled out' in the peoples easy-going manners and laissez faire attitude which is very much a breath of fresh air compared to some stuffy realms.


The danger is the people who decide that the 'right thing to do' means voting in more EU restrictions and infringements.

Getting hold of weapons has never been a problem in this country. A number of groups are quite good a sourcing anything.

So you believe a nations freedom is based on the peoples right to carry objects with one purpose. Thats interesting if a little barbaric. I think the place your looking for is infowars.com.

[texdallas]

Ireland is indeed a proving ground for the nwo, in every gorey detail, that they intend to inflict on us. When Lenihan bragged about the budget cuts to our european partners. We laughed at our selves, along with them.

We have lost the fighting spirit, we dont question anything, we are happy to give up our rights, we will fight our way to the swine flu clinics. And by our acquiesence we will condemn our european brothers and sisters to the same fate, when we give the Lisbon 2 a landslide victory.

We will bend over, without the ky jelly, and ask for Lisbon 2 to save us.

There are awakened irsihfolk, but not enough. And I,m at the stage where my head cant take much more banging on the wall. At this stage I,d be tempted to let the sheeple ramble there own way.GGrrrr....

We should be marching, but we cant be arsed.........

griswald

I believe when certain limits are crossed we may see the beginnings of organised resistance to Europe in a similar form as we seen against the Brits in NI. Will the majority stand up for themselves ? Never but thats always been the case.

[geezer661]

I believe when certain limits are crossed we may see the beginnings of organised resistance to Europe in a similar form as we seen against the Brits in NI. Will the majority stand up for themselves ? Never but thats always been the case.

what about the people of northern ireland that want to be part of the UK? dont their views matter? It wasn't about freedom fighting get it right! the majority of northern ireland want to be part of the UK a small minority started blowing up innocent civis. So get it Right!

[pedsi]

a small minority started blowing up innocent civis.

Under the guidance of the british intelligence services!

[griswald]

I believe when certain limits are crossed we may see the beginnings of organised resistance to Europe in a similar form as we seen against the Brits in NI. Will the majority stand up for themselves ? Never but thats always been the case.

It would be far better to support efforts that are in the pipeline, like the production of a newspaper that the guys at www.wethepeople.ie are trying to organise, and if you feel your testosterone levels rising a bit, offer your help there, as I know they are looking for support to get the truth out.

A return to anything like the troubles at the start of 69 is only going to hurt us, and moves us further into a more restrictive police like state.

But thats just my 2cents worth

griswald

[texdallas]

what about the people of northern ireland that want to be part of the UK? dont their views matter? It wasn't about freedom fighting get it right! the majority of northern ireland want to be part of the UK a small minority started blowing up innocent civis. So get it Right!

They do and are entitled to. far be it from me to tell anybody to be anything other than they want to be. Making the point that certain parts of the Irish people can have and will always get there hands on the means to affect change regardless of the political or social views of their neighbours. NI is an example not an endorsement of the actions of the IRA, INLA, UFV,UDA and so on and on and on

[texdallas]

It would be far better to support efforts that are in the pipeline, like the production of a newspaper that the guys at www.wethepeople.ie are trying to organise, and if you feel your testosterone levels rising a bit, offer your help there, as I know they are looking for support to get the truth out.

A return to anything like the troubles at the start of 69 is only going to hurt us, and moves us further into a more restrictive police like state.

But thats just my 2cents worth

griswald

Politics.ie what user name are you posting under? If not you should check it out. I am already familiar with this particular group and power to them!

[texdallas]

Under the guidance of the british intelligence services!

i'm not convinced on that to be honest. To a degree yes but to assume all actions taken in the north were all under the guidance of British intel is too far fetched.

[griswald]

Politics.ie what user name are you posting under? If not you should check it out. I am already familiar with this particular group and power to them!

Does that mean you,ll be supporting their efforts to spread the word then:)
I would be interested in seeing the first issue, but I dont know when its out.

Politics.ie, sorry you,ve got me there.:confused:

griswald

[rydeon]

Getting hold of weapons has never been a problem in this country. A number of groups are quite good a sourcing anything.

So you believe a nations freedom is based on the peoples right to carry objects with one purpose. Thats interesting if a little barbaric. I think the place your looking for is infowars.com.

I think the place you need is read of your history books and to see that countries with the strictest firearm laws are most oppressive to it's citizens.
Ireland isn't like that in day-to-day life per sa but on paper it is, having kow-towed to the UK in law-making.

The USA (somewhere many Irish fled to) must be the barbaric capital of the world then.
Infowars is ok, if you have a problem with it that's your look out.

See the way I see it the Irish are great people and so are the US folk, but the Irish are too easy-going all the time and let themselves be pushed about, while the US folk are a bit too gung-ho in some ways (I'm not just talking about the Michael Ryan types). But that doesn't seem to of cause the world to end or collapse.

So I think if the Irish got a bit more assertive and took pride in their country like the US do then things would be better.
More liberal firearms laws would help. Not to kill people as a reason but for sports, hunting and club-based stuff.

Saying no to the EU being an additional help in having a country stand on its own two feet for a change instead of being shackled to the EU.

[texdallas]

I think the place you need is read of your history books and to see that countries with the strictest firearm laws are most oppressive to it's citizens.
Ireland isn't like that in day-to-day life per sa but on paper it is, having kow-towed to the UK in law-making.

The USA (somewhere many Irish fled to) must be the barbaric capital of the world then.
Infowars is ok, if you have a problem with it that's your look out.

See the way I see it the Irish are great people and so are the US folk, but the Irish are too easy-going all the time and let themselves be pushed about, while the US folk are a bit too gung-ho in some ways (I'm not just talking about the Michael Ryan types). But that doesn't seem to of cause the world to end or collapse.

So I think if the Irish got a bit more assertive and took pride in their country like the US do then things would be better.
More liberal firearms laws would help. Not to kill people as a reason but for sports, hunting and club-based stuff.

Saying no to the EU being an additional help in having a country stand on its own two feet for a change instead of being shackled to the EU.

We already voted no to lisbon. When is your country holding a vote?? I find you argument in respect to firearms a bit odd. What has it to do with the freedom of a nation? Unless your suggesting armed revolt. Like I said already if there's a need we wouldn't be found wanting for arms never have not proud of it but just the way it is. Sad innit you can own a gun but have no vote on Lisbon.

[texdallas]

Does that mean you,ll be supporting their efforts to spread the word then:)
I would be interested in seeing the first issue, but I dont know when its out.

Politics.ie, sorry you,ve got me there.:confused:

griswald

Not sure Griswald I'm aware of them but don't know enough to come out and support them. I have a few hours today to look over the site so I'l be back to you on that. They have promoted themselves via Politics.ie you might check it out I think you'll find it very interesting.

[griswald]

I think ue had better get stocked up on the KY jelly. Because we are gonna get screwed every which way but loose. We are going to get a carbon tax, a property tax, benefit cuts. And this is only the beginning. When are we going to say enough is enough, we dont have anything left to give.


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/carbon-tax-to--be-first-of-three-new-charges-on-households-1842130.html
Carbon tax to be first of three new charges on households

By Senan Molony Deputy Political Editor


Monday July 27 2009

THE report of the Commission on Taxation will be delivered "within weeks", it was confirmed yesterday -- raising the prospect of carbon tax, property tax and water charges for already hammered households.

However, the introduction of new revenue-generating measures is likely to be staggered, in muted recognition of the increasing crisis in household finances.

A carbon tax is the chief priority in the commission's report and Budget 2010 will see it implemented for all fuel consumers, as well as deep cuts in child benefit.

A property tax on principal private residents will likely follow next year in Budget 2011, with water charges expected to come in as a triple-whammy either then or in Budget 2012.

The commission will also suggest that the increased burden be offset by lower income tax for some.

[mind1universe]

I think we should calm down.


And say NO and no more.

turn off the dail
turn off the radio
turn off the t.v


Stop paying taxes.

[mind1universe]

I think the place you need is read of your history books and to see that countries with the strictest firearm laws are most oppressive to it's citizens.
Ireland isn't like that in day-to-day life per sa but on paper it is, having kow-towed to the UK in law-making.

The USA (somewhere many Irish fled to) must be the barbaric capital of the world then.
Infowars is ok, if you have a problem with it that's your look out.

See the way I see it the Irish are great people and so are the US folk, but the Irish are too easy-going all the time and let themselves be pushed about, while the US folk are a bit too gung-ho in some ways (I'm not just talking about the Michael Ryan types). But that doesn't seem to of cause the world to end or collapse.

So I think if the Irish got a bit more assertive and took pride in their country like the US do then things would be better.
More liberal firearms laws would help. Not to kill people as a reason but for sports, hunting and club-based stuff.

Saying no to the EU being an additional help in having a country stand on its own two feet for a change instead of being shackled to the EU.


:rolleyes: