Last Episodes of Angel - omg I love it

[bobbydiva]

I always knew Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse etc dabbled in some of New World Order concepts, in fact all his work is dripping with it, but the last few episodes of Angel have me freaking jumping in my seat screaming "that mother fucker knows how to make a TV show for awakened souls!"

If nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about, please rent the last couple of seasons of the show, I love this shit!

Seek out the episode Power Play online somewhere.

I know a lot of people don't watch TV, think everything is Illuminati, or think when something like this pops up they are trying to wake people up. Personally I do not know, but I loves me some Illuminati fiction. :p

[zero1]

It's a pity Angel was cancelled when it was, it was a great show.

For the final season (5), Angel became King of All the World as CEO of the law firm Wolfram & Hart (which is an allegory for the dark, Satanic forces controlling the real world we live in) but on here we often use the phrase "PTB", meaning Powers That Be, in a negative way to refer to the same cabal but in Angel the Powers That Be were the forces of Good countering Wolfram & Hart and all the demonic evil in the world.

Perhaps that might tell us something.

Anyway, it was a great show.

[size_of_light]

It's a pity Angel was cancelled when it was, it was a great show.


I never saw it, but do you guys think it might have been cancelled because it was too close to the mark?

Ratings are manufactured anyway, but it seemed to be pretty damn popular when it got the chop and people still enthuse about it today.

[zero1]

I never saw it, but do you guys think it might have been cancelled because it was too close to the mark?

Ratings are manufactured anyway, but it seemed to be pretty damn popular when it got the chop and people still enthuse about it today.

It might indeed have been too close to the mark, but just as likely some Network exec thought the ratings weren't high enough...and that's all...

It was a very popular Buffy spinoff, some say artistically (and I think it's true) that Angel surpassed Buffy in quality.

You should try and get to watch the show, you can do that online for free, all the episodes can be found here -

www.surfthechannel.com

Just search "Angel" - all five seasons are there. Seasons 2, 3, 4 & 5 deal mostly with the conspiracy in allegory and metaphor.

[size_of_light]

Thanks zero, will add it to my list of things to do, just below my list of things I should already be doing, which is directly beneath my list of reasons why life hasn't worked out so well.

[zero1]

Thanks zero, will add it to my list of things to do, just below my list of things I should already be doing, which is directly beneath my list of reasons why life hasn't worked out so well.

:)

No problem.

[armoured_amazon]

I always knew Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse etc dabbled in some of New World Order concepts, in fact all his work is dripping with it, but the last few episodes of Angel have me freaking jumping in my seat screaming "that mother fucker knows how to make a TV show for awakened souls!"

If nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about, please rent the last couple of seasons of the show, I love this shit!

Seek out the episode Power Play online somewhere.

I know a lot of people don't watch TV, think everything is Illuminati, or think when something like this pops up they are trying to wake people up. Personally I do not know, but I loves me some Illuminati fiction. :p

I loved Angel. The problem with the last episode, it makes me feel the need to start watching from the very beginning again :D

[zero1]

I loved Angel. The problem with the last episode, it makes me feel the need to start watching from the very beginning again :D

The last ep, "Not Fade Away" was epic, wasn't it? ;)

Scene - Angel, Illyria, Spike and a bleeding-to-death Gunn prepare to face the legion hordes of Hell sent to kill them by the Senior Partners of Wolfram & Hart, whom Angel has betrayed...our heroes against such impossible odds are unmoved...

Angel: "Let's go to work..."

>credits<

THE END

:cool:

THAT kind of attitude/spirit people, fictional or not, is how we'll beat the New World Order.

[armoured_amazon]

The last ep, "Not Fade Away" was epic, wasn't it? ;)

Scene - Angel, Illyria, Spike and a bleeding-to-death Gunn prepare to face the legion hordes of Hell sent to kill them by the Senior Partners of Wolfram & Hart, whom Angel has betrayed...our heroes against such impossible odds are unmoved...

Angel: "Let's go to work..."

>credits<

THE END

:cool:

THAT kind of attitude/spirit people, fictional or not, is how we'll beat the New World Order.

Yeah, I liked that Angel connected with others in this; in Buffy he was more of a loner. And I love that Spike came into the show, heh, he and Angel had a wonderful comic rapport and long history. It was a shame that Fred and Wesley, and Angel and Cordy never got their happy ending, but I did like Illyria...in fact, I stole her name (and dropped an 'l') for my pen name for the novel I'm writing atm. :o

The symbology was clever right from the beginning in Angel, moreso than Buffy, which was more fluffy (but enjoyable all the same), remember the series where the beast came and devoured the sun?

And the Wolf, Ram & Hart...I loved when they went to the dimension where Fred was a prisoner and Angel could go in sunlight without burning up. His face was priceless. :)

[macleodmunro]

I always knew Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse etc dabbled in some of New World Order concepts, in fact all his work is dripping with it.
I know a lot of people think when something like this pops up they are trying to wake people up. Personally I do not know, but I loves me some Illuminati fiction. :p

I used to watch Angel & Buffy years ago, back when i didn't know much about anything and i just saw it as top class entertainment.
It didn't really make me think outside the box or anything like that.
Sorry.

As for the ending of Angel. I remember feeling robbed of a conclusion.
I mean what happened to the whole prophesy thing?
We ended up with 2 vampires with souls and no prophesy fulfilled.
In fact i can't even remember what the prophesy even said. It's been that long since i watched the show i could just be talking shit.

As for Buffy & Angel on a whole:

Five stars for the casting
Five stars for the characters
Five stars for the story lines
Five stars for the constant flow of humour
Five stars for the 'once more with feeling' musical Buffy episode
A galaxy of stars for turning Angel into a Muppet

Good shows;)

[armoured_amazon]

I used to watch Angel & Buffy years ago, back when i didn't know much about anything and i just saw it as top class entertainment.
It didn't really make me think outside the box or anything like that.
Sorry.

As for the ending of Angel. I remember feeling robbed of a conclusion.
I mean what happened to the whole prophesy thing?
We ended up with 2 vampires with souls and no prophesy fulfilled.
In fact i can't even remember what the prophesy even said. It's been that long since i watched the show i could just be talking shit.

As for Buffy & Angel on a whole:

Five stars for the casting
Five stars for the characters
Five stars for the story lines
Five stars for the constant flow of humour
Five stars for the 'once more with feeling' musical Buffy episode
A galaxy of stars for turning Angel into a Muppet

Good shows;)

LOL the muppet one was class. :D

[eternal_spirit]

Smallville is the new buffy.

[kingmob]

Anybody watching True Blood? That show is filled with symbolism and hidden messages. Shapeshifter galore.

[macleodmunro]

LOL the muppet one was class. :D

I know:D, how can anyone think up such a thing

[armoured_amazon]

Anybody watching True Blood? That show is filled with symbolism and hidden messages. Shapeshifter galore.

I think it starts on FX this week :)

I know:D, how can anyone think up such a thing

LOL

I loved when Spike was ribbing him and then puppet Angel attacked him and they fell into the corridor lol

[macleodmunro]

I bought the whole of buffy n angel on vhs years ago.
I'll have to dig them out and give them another run.

Re-live the good times when my life was simple.

[armoured_amazon]

I bought the whole of buffy n angel on vhs years ago.
I'll have to dig them out and give them another run.

Re-live the good times when my life was simple.

I got Home Alone 1 & 2 off the shelf this evening for the same reason. :o

[bobbydiva]

Anyone remember the episode where that God lady Jasmine came down and hypnotized everyone. Here's what I wrote on the buffy forums. I don't think they got it at all lol:

"I see W&H as the "global elite" and Jasmine as a metaphor for the staging of events like 9/11 (sun going out...) only to swoop in as the savior from the evil that was created by her in the first place, so she could rule the world, with the people thinking they are free.

You have her manipulating the masses via the media, a martial law like police state where opposers are simply dealt with (under the guise of freedom of course, protecting us from the whack job conspiracy theorists). There is actually a conspiracy theorist in the show who goes nuts."

[truth finder]

I loved angel way more then buffy, awsome show the final episode left me feeling empty, it was a crap way to end i know there are comics but therre to hard to get here in Australia ( if any one knows where).

Joss is a talented man has any one seen his new show doll house?

[armoured_amazon]

Anyone remember the episode where that God lady Jasmine came down and hypnotized everyone. Here's what I wrote on the buffy forums. I don't think they got it at all lol:

"I see W&H as the "global elite" and Jasmine as a metaphor for the staging of events like 9/11 (sun going out...) only to swoop in as the savior from the evil that was created by her in the first place, so she could rule the world, with the people thinking they are free.

You have her manipulating the masses via the media, a martial law like police state where opposers are simply dealt with (under the guise of freedom of course, protecting us from the whack job conspiracy theorists). There is actually a conspiracy theorist in the show who goes nuts."

Agreed!

[bobbydiva]

I loved angel way more then buffy, awsome show the final episode left me feeling empty, it was a crap way to end i know there are comics but therre to hard to get here in Australia ( if any one knows where).

Joss is a talented man has any one seen his new show doll house?

Yeah, although I think Dollhouse is a little flat, the concept of mind control is something often brought up on the forum. Almost like the Manchurian Candidate -awesome film. Plus Eliza Dushku is all I need to watch a show lol :p

[armoured_amazon]

Yeah, although I think Dollhouse is a little flat, the concept of mind control is something often brought up on the forum. Almost like the Manchurian Candidate -awesome film. Plus Eliza Dushku is all I need to watch a show lol :p

LOL Dollhouse was a slow burner. Overall, I enjoyed it.

[bobbydiva]

Anyways this topic sparked my imagination so I edited together some clips from the last couple episodes of Angel, spliced in some They Live and Eyes Wide Shut clips and put the intro music to Rosemary's Baby.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9vf1r_nwo_shortfilms

And sorry but I completely did not notice the clip with nudity when putting it together. So not send me to hell!

[zero1]

Eliza Dushku was awesome as Faith in Buffy & Angel, but Dollhouse sucks.

Anyway, Angel - "Not Fade Away", series finale;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6YC4umjqps&feature=PlayList&p=ADF79CE6F21DAF62&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6

Enjoy.

[bobbydiva]

My only qualm was we didn't see the big end battle. It was like hey "buy the comic!"

[_invisibleplane_]

I was actually a late bloomer with this show...my gf got me into it this year, I started watching Angel before Buffy strangely, but it's very hard to pick between the two, both have become my favourite tv shows of all time

and yes, the end to angel was epic, as was buffy, for those who want the comics, you can them online

it is a show symbolic of many things...the inner and outer battles we all endure...jasmine's manipulation was already mentioned..as was the never give up attitude that was always expressed

every episode had its lesson :)

[jakemaverick]

great show! what an ending though...

always suspected that it was going to end in the movie that never got made :-(

such a shame.......load of slayers charging over the hill to save him would have sorted it! shame Wesley had to die (never mind Fit Fred) but him and Giles would overlpped to much in the movie....

lets get a petition together to get the movie made!!!!

[zero1]

great show! what an ending though...

always suspected that it was going to end in the movie that never got made :-(

such a shame.......load of slayers charging over the hill to save him would have sorted it! shame Wesley had to die (never mind Fit Fred) but him and Giles would overlpped to much in the movie....

lets get a petition together to get the movie made!!!!

Hear the Hollywood lot are thinking pre-production on a Buffy movie...without Joss Whedon writing or directing it...ugh. :( Bad news.

[armoured_amazon]

Hear the Hollywood lot are thinking pre-production on a Buffy movie...without Joss Whedon writing or directing it...ugh. :( Bad news.

Yeah, I heard that too. It'll be as crappy as the original one.

[bobbydiva]

Yeah not even any of the TV actors.
Who do they think is going to watch that?

[jakemaverick]

just make the grand movie finale as originally intended!!! surely they could get all the peeps back? i know've they've aged a bit but that Angel bloke still has the same haircut........

[truth finder]

great show! what an ending though...

always suspected that it was going to end in the movie that never got made :-(

such a shame.......load of slayers charging over the hill to save him would have sorted it! shame Wesley had to die (never mind Fit Fred) but him and Giles would overlpped to much in the movie....

lets get a petition together to get the movie made!!!!


Movie would be great only if joss makes it....there making a buffy movie with the guy who made the original movie ( Which was crap) i have the comic after the fall, but its not the same...:(. and david boranze and sarah michelle geller have both said they would do a movie if it was done by the right person....

[truth finder]

Yeah, I heard that too. It'll be as crappy as the original one.


it will suck it the tellie series that made it what it was..... couldn't watch it with out anthony stewart head, james masters, nicholas brendon etc it wouldn;t be the same.....

Give it 2 years they will make it..... i hope

The new buffy i will probaly watch it out of curiosity.....

[bobbydiva]

I'm sure I'd watch it, but without Gellar. I might cry!

[zero1]

I'm sure I'd watch it, but without Gellar. I might cry!

Awww...:p Such love for Sarah...

[jakemaverick]

yeah, she's a quality piece of ass and has aged well!!!

Fred was also top of my list, as was Cordelia but she did go a lil down hill during angel...not surprised they had to kill her orf!!! ;-)

[zero1]

yeah, she's a quality piece of ass and has aged well!!!

Fred was also top of my list, as was Cordelia but she did go a lil down hill during angel...not surprised they had to kill her orf!!! ;-)

Charisma Carpenter - mmm. Beautiful, and she looks good today, much better even than she did when, as you say, she went downhill a bit during Season 4.

Cordelia -

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-zOrAL1V5Jg/SRb5Wnk7QmI/AAAAAAAAAwE/VYbvxB1IWu0/s400/CharismaCarpenter-CordeliaChase.jpg

And Fred Burkle -

http://www.sf-radio.net/buffy/charaktere/bilder/fred.jpg

Angel had all the best girls, truly...

[jakemaverick]

I NEED FIT FRED PICS!!! WHATEVER HAPPEEND TO THAT WOMAN????!!!??

actresses name? Amy Lucker? or something similar? zoe? can't think str8 anymore....but damn she was cute.......

and claudia black <dribble>, micheele Ryan <gibber>, and Keira! so many lovely women!!!! ;-)

Gellar still has the greatest arse though!!!!

[zero1]

I NEED FIT FRED PICS!!! WHATEVER HAPPEEND TO THAT WOMAN????!!!??

actresses name? Amy Lucker? or something similar? zoe? can't think str8 anymore....but damn she was cute.......

and claudia black <dribble>, micheele Ryan <gibber>, and Keira! so many lovely women!!!! ;-)

Gellar still has the greatest arse though!!!!

Alright, calm down - here's some Winifred Burkle pics for you;

http://thefaust.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/winifred-fred-burkle-88784.jpg

http://www.sf-radio.net/buffy/charaktere/bilder/fred.jpg

http://www.foxuk.com/content/fox_films/10780/images/HE_5_AngelFred.jpg

Happy?

[bobbydiva]

http://www.wallpaperme.com/3404-2/Amy-Acker-26.JPG

[zero1]

http://www.wallpaperme.com/3404-2/Amy-Acker-26.JPG

Yikes...;) NICE!

[bobbydiva]

I admit I was pretty fond of her demon counterpart as well
http://wrestlingtruth.com/wrestlehost/images/gdtqfbqdu5k33exsnot.jpg

[zero1]

I admit I was pretty fond of her demon counterpart as well
http://wrestlingtruth.com/wrestlehost/images/gdtqfbqdu5k33exsnot.jpg

Illyria was fun, but I preferred Fred; the nerdy science girl act was priceless.

[amercury]

God I used to love Buffy The Vampire Slayer. I think she is such a great role model for young girls..lol..seriously.

I think I've only seen about one season of Angel. I'm gonna have to watch the whole thing now. :) This thread makes me nostalgic. :(

[jakemaverick]

thanks for the piccies!!! never knew she got her titties out......more pls??? gratuitous arse shot? never hurts to ask, right? ;-)

[armoured_amazon]

I admit I was pretty fond of her demon counterpart as well
http://wrestlingtruth.com/wrestlehost/images/gdtqfbqdu5k33exsnot.jpg

My pen name is Ilyria(sic) Moon. :)

[jakemaverick]

so when is the movie coming out?

[haukipesukone]

The last episode of Angel was great. I always thought so too. Usually endings suck, whether it's a TV show or a game, the ending is a disappointment. But Angel, that ending was cool.

I haven't seen much of seasons 1 and 2, but they seemed sort of boring, but once they got the hang of it, I would say Angel surpassed Buffy. Buffy was better in the beginning and the middle part but in the end it got sort of lame. Angel was just the reverse.

I've never thought about either of them being "awake" or anything. More like TV for RPG geeks.

[armoured_amazon]

TV for RPG geeks.

*raises hand* :o

[haukipesukone]

*raises hand* :o

You're an RPG geek? Like table-top RPGs? Me too, been playing for years.

[armoured_amazon]

You're an RPG geek? Like table-top RPGs? Me too, been playing for years.

Used to be; haven't had a game in a few years, though. You've given me an idea - pubs are dead, I want to start games night! :D

[haukipesukone]

Used to be; haven't had a game in a few years, though. You've given me an idea - pubs are dead, I want to start games night! :D

My gaming hasn't been the same lately as it was in the Good Old Days (tm), but still we manage to put together a game every now and then. You should do it too.

[armoured_amazon]

My gaming hasn't been the same lately as it was in the Good Old Days (tm), but still we manage to put together a game every now and then. You should do it too.

I'm going to. It'll be fun. Food, beer, and RPG. And more beer. :D

[eternal_spirit]

I always knew Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse etc dabbled in some of New World Order concepts, in fact all his work is dripping with it, but the last few episodes of Angel have me freaking jumping in my seat screaming "that mother fucker knows how to make a TV show for awakened souls!"

If nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about, please rent the last couple of seasons of the show, I love this shit!

Seek out the episode Power Play online somewhere.

I know a lot of people don't watch TV, think everything is Illuminati, or think when something like this pops up they are trying to wake people up. Personally I do not know, but I loves me some Illuminati fiction. :p
(I used to watch it an X girl got me into it, like I never had much choice really, want sex tonight then shut up and watch TV for a while lol):p

If you like Angel check out Smallville the last 2 or 3 series. Lot's of similar crazy stuff going on there.

http://tvshack.net/tv/Smallville/

[armoured_amazon]

(I used to watch it an X girl got me into it, like I never had much choice really, want sex tonight then shut up and watch TV for a while lol):p

If you like Angel check out Smallville the last 2 or 3 series. Lot's of similar crazy stuff going on there.

http://tvshack.net/tv/Smallville/

Yeah, I always found Smallville a bit blah in the earlier series (still watched it on a Sunday, though, hehe) but I really enjoyed the last series - even set my timer!

[eternal_spirit]

Yeah, I always found Smallville a bit blah in the earlier series (still watched it on a Sunday, though, hehe) but I really enjoyed the last series - even set my timer!
It used to be a bit naff. I gave up on it years ago but recently started watching the last 2 series and now
It's my favourite show :o I look forward to next weeks.

[haukipesukone]

I'm going to. It'll be fun. Food, beer, and RPG. And more beer. :D

Don't forget the beer.

[truth finder]

Illyria was fun, but I preferred Fred; the nerdy science girl act was priceless.

Me 2.....

[truth finder]

so when is the movie coming out?



the movie will suck...its done by the derictor of the shitty move..with ( christina applgate.)...

it was joss who made buffy what it is today....

[truth finder]

just make the grand movie finale as originally intended!!! surely they could get all the peeps back? i know've they've aged a bit but that Angel bloke still has the same haircut........



they a,l agreed to , but the dick producer said no......bring back Willow..

[jakemaverick]

It used to be a bit naff. I gave up on it years ago but recently started watching the last 2 series and now
It's my favourite show :o I look forward to next weeks.

???? didn't think smallville was any anymore? only got network...waiting for next series...Lex had just neutered Clark in the big ice temple last i saw.....

[jakemaverick]

Me 2.....

i'll third that....

[jakemaverick]

they a,l agreed to , but the dick producer said no......bring back Willow..

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

what happened to Willow???? must have missed that ep....hope she is OK!!!!

[jakemaverick]

and bring back Wesley!!!!

[truth finder]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

what happened to Willow???? must have missed that ep....hope she is OK!!!!



didn't mean to scare u , she lives on in the comics series, just miss the crew on t.v......

sorry for the scare

[jakemaverick]

didn't mean to scare u , she lives on in the comics series, just miss the crew on t.v......

sorry for the scare

phew! thought i had seen every ep.....been a few years though!

you gotta watch cruel intentions...you'll never watch buffy in the same light again!!!

[truth finder]

phew! thought i had seen every ep.....been a few years though!

you gotta watch cruel intentions...you'll never watch buffy in the same light again!!!




lol...i have very nice...hahaha :D


lucky sebastian....lol

[armoured_amazon]

phew! thought i had seen every ep.....been a few years though!

you gotta watch cruel intentions...you'll never watch buffy in the same light again!!!

Sometimes, my friend and I are like the siblings in Cruel Intentions. We sit and plot. Then I feel a bit guilty. No restrained lust, though.

I hope. :eek:

[zero1]

I just found out today that Angel is Twilight, the person/organization that is opposing Buffy's Slayer Army in the ongoing comics series. Quite a reveal. I guess anyone who has been following Season 8 or After the Fall would be surprised to learn of the connexion; I mean, apparently the Twilight phase of Angel's story takes place after his own ongoing series wraps. And he can fly; just like Buffy has become Uber-Super Buffy and can fly too now, in the comics. Bizzare, really. I wonder where Connor, Angel's son, fits into this picture? He is currently running Angel Investigations whilst his father is indisposed. I always liked Connor; felt he was misused towards the end of season 4 of the Angel TV series to make a big Darth-Luke story out of what was popular at the time (the Star Wars prequel movies). Anyway, that's me out; hopefully Angel / Twilight and Buffy will kiss and make up and save the world. God knows we need a happy ending in this world, even if only in the world of fiction.

[bobbydiva]

phew! thought i had seen every ep.....been a few years though!

you gotta watch cruel intentions...you'll never watch buffy in the same light again!!!

Ha ha, helped me through puberty that movie.

[bobbydiva]

I just found out today that Angel is Twilight, the person/organization that is opposing Buffy's Slayer Army in the ongoing comics series. Quite a reveal. I guess anyone who has been following Season 8 or After the Fall would be surprised to learn of the connexion; I mean, apparently the Twilight phase of Angel's story takes place after his own ongoing series wraps. And he can fly; just like Buffy has become Uber-Super Buffy and can fly too now, in the comics. Bizzare, really. I wonder where Connor, Angel's son, fits into this picture? He is currently running Angel Investigations whilst his father is indisposed. I always liked Connor; felt he was misused towards the end of season 4 of the Angel TV series to make a big Darth-Luke story out of what was popular at the time (the Star Wars prequel movies). Anyway, that's me out; hopefully Angel / Twilight and Buffy will kiss and make up and save the world. God knows we need a happy ending in this world, even if only in the world of fiction.

Wow sounds interesting.
I have a feeling that tptb or higher powers or whatever, is really just the Illuminati lol controlling buffy and angel like puppets.

[jakemaverick]

Ha ha, helped me through puberty that movie.

mmm...youngster then! who is the avatar? still can't place him...

[zero1]

Wow sounds interesting. I have a feeling that tptb or higher powers or whatever, is really just the Illuminati lol controlling buffy and angel like puppets.

Well, in the Buffyverse, the 'Powers That Be' are good entities who guide Angel; similarly, the Watchers Council did the same for the Slayer, before Buffy changed all that. It's good stuff; though it's hard to discern if there is anything in it that applies to our own real-world situation, even if only in a metafictional way.

[bobbydiva]

Well, in the Buffyverse, the 'Powers That Be' are good entities who guide Angel; similarly, the Watchers Council did the same for the Slayer, before Buffy changed all that. It's good stuff; though it's hard to discern if there is anything in it that applies to our own real-world situation, even if only in a metafictional way.

There is of course Wolfram & Hart - me likes there triangle logo.

They did have the Illuminati in one of the episodes, but they were Knights Templar rip-offs. The same episode Faith visits a store called Meyer something or other. Meyer is obviously a Jewish name and several Rothschilds had the name Meyer.

There was an episode with Moloch in it.

And who can forget the Freemason mural in the Buffy school cafeteria.

[bobbydiva]

mmm...youngster then! who is the avatar? still can't place him...

I hope that wasn't mmmmm as in yum? lmao :D

The avatar is pro wrestler Ric Flair.

[jakemaverick]

I hope that wasn't mmmmm as in yum? lmao :D

The avatar is pro wrestler Ric Flair.

nah man, fred was yum!!! 100% hetero me....

never heard of that guy, but violence not my thing.....the pic is familiar though, being doing my nut for months....where have i seen him............? he's not an actor or anything else as well is he?

[zero1]

There is of course Wolfram & Hart - me likes there triangle logo.

They did have the Illuminati in one of the episodes, but they were Knights Templar rip-offs. The same episode Faith visits a store called Meyer something or other. Meyer is obviously a Jewish name and several Rothschilds had the name Meyer.

There was an episode with Moloch in it.

And who can forget the Freemason mural in the Buffy school cafeteria.

Yes, it all suggests that creator Joss Whedon is very clued in.

[bobbydiva]

nah man, fred was yum!!! 100% hetero me....

never heard of that guy, but violence not my thing.....the pic is familiar though, being doing my nut for months....where have i seen him............? he's not an actor or anything else as well is he?

You might be confusing him with that blond comedian guy who also did movies...but I can't remember his name.

But Flair is pretty well known, you've bound to come across him at some stage. In wrestling circles he's god.

[bobbydiva]

Yes, it all suggests that creator Joss Whedon is very clued in.

I think he's probably a Mason, or maybe just a big conspiracy geek.
It appears to me that a lot of this so called piped in stuff, is actually just writers ripping off conspiracy themes because they are entertaining.

[zero1]

I think he's probably a Mason, or maybe just a big conspiracy geek. It appears to me that a lot of this so called piped in stuff, is actually just writers ripping off conspiracy themes because they are entertaining.

Yes, that's it; writers do pilfer from popular culture a lot, and now conspiracy is part of that, it finds its way into stuff we read, see and listen to. I don't think Joss is a Freemason though; just a hunch, he doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who'd possibly take that seriously. Could be wrong though. :)

[jakemaverick]

I think he's probably a Mason, or maybe just a big conspiracy geek.
It appears to me that a lot of this so called piped in stuff, is actually just writers ripping off conspiracy themes because they are entertaining.

aye....the simplest explanation is very often right....

[truth finder]

Well, in the Buffyverse, the 'Powers That Be' are good entities who guide Angel; similarly, the Watchers Council did the same for the Slayer, before Buffy changed all that. It's good stuff; though it's hard to discern if there is anything in it that applies to our own real-world situation, even if only in a metafictional way.

the watchers council, where completly different to the ptb, thats why they where easily destroyed, where the powers let fate run