Pro life extension technology documentary

[chris]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6581761732541483047

[Anders Lindman]

Looks interesting. I will take a look at it. Life extension sounds ok, but "living forever" is an idea spooky as hell I think, because that triggers the deep, deep cronophobia in me.

[sweet cheeks]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6581761732541483047

Life extension for who??

Ya know.....we cant walk over to the kitchen and use the life extension appliance!

You know this is already subverted and they will use this to ensnare undesirables...and yada, yada...

[Anders Lindman]

Good video. Except for the cryonics where they freeze people :shudder:, and also I'm not a big fan of plugging in computers into the body, but other than that is was some interesting stuff.

[hagbard_celine]

This stuff is creepy! If we all lived forever then we'd run out of space on Earth.

I couldn't cope with more than a natural lifespan anyway. I enjoy my life, but it's also very painful too. I'd rather die and take the risk. I might go to a worse place, but then again I might go to a better one.

[limelady]

This stuff is creepy! If we all lived forever then we'd run out of space on Earth.

I couldn't cope with more than a natural lifespan anyway. I enjoy my life, but it's also very painful too. I'd rather die and take the risk. I might go to a worse place, but then again I might go to a better one.

I agree haggers, but I also feel our life-span has been greatly diminished (by genetic design/built-in obsolescence) so it would be quite good to get back a bit of the time that's been deliberately robbed from us. They couldn't have their slaves living long enough to gain wisdom, could they :cool:

If life wasn't so shite and we all kept good health, we'd probably be quite happy to live a little longer IMO.

LL :)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2499/lovelimeoa6.jpg

[hagbard_celine]

I agree haggers, but I also feel our life-span has been greatly diminished (by genetic design/built-in obsolescence) so it would be quite good to get back a bit of the time that's been deliberately robbed from us. They couldn't have their slaves living long enough to gain wisdom, could they :cool:

If life wasn't so shite and we all kept good health, we'd probably be quite happy to live a little longer IMO.

LL :)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2499/lovelimeoa6.jpg

True. As David says, it might be an illusion, but it can be a nice illusion rather than an unpleasant one.

Those who write about Atlantis and Mu say that in those days people lived for several centuries easily.

[chris]

They also say that in the bible.^^


I have nothing against natural life extension technology or even artificial for that matter but as sweet cheecks said, 'life extension for who'...

It rare that those people who were the most scientific were also the ones that were going the more hardcore with their diets...The common notion is that scientists back the meat market 'we need meat for our health blah blah blah' yet these scientists are in the field and doing exactly the opposite...Something like an open secret.

[hagbard_celine]

This is a promotional film, not an investigation, so it makes no attempt to explore alternative viewpoints to a significant degree. The sequence where the interviewees philosophize about the possiblity that perhaps even if we fail to live forever in our current existance, there's an existance beyond that. But they see the issue in a very dated and simplistic way. They say things like "Well I'm not sure what's after death so I'm hedging my bets" or "There's just no evidence". This is debatable, even in the same scientific circles that they're a part of. They seem to have quite a 19th Century view of the soul debate. It's "either-or": Heaven/hell in the religious sense or neurochemical shutdown: oblivion. It takes no acount of many of the research that we're familiar with here.

The bit on nanotechnology was very interesting and probably the most feasible part of the programme.

I have major misgivings over the logic behind "transhumanism" though. The idea that you can reproduce a person's mind in a computer and store it like you would an eletronic document is based on the assumption that the mind is merely chemicals and electrical signals in the brain. This, as most members of the forum will know, is a dubious position. Nobody knows what the mind is. We can onserve electrical activity in the brain that relates to waking consciousness, but this is a very different thing from mind itself. It may be possible to create an artifical intelligence; a machine with a mind, but that doesn't mean that your mind and mine can be shuttled to and from the same databases as that intelligence!

Here's another short clip where Janet Street-Porter interviews that Rasputin-lookalike from the fist film, Aubrey de Grey. (How the hell can you trust this guy with genetics when he doesn't even know what a bloody razor is!?:D):

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5205242449757321186

[chris]

I bet you any money that guy is a reader of arnold ehret...Back in his time there was a movement in germany where people had long hair, very long beards and ate exactly what this guy eats.

http://www.fruitmessiah.com/db4/00387/fruitmessiah.com/_uimages/ArnoldEhret.jpg