View Full Version : I don't trust Jordan Maxwell
Anders Lindman
05-08-2007, 05:15 PM
In the below video Jordan Maxwell says that 1% or less of the American population are serious criminals such as murderers. Then he says that that is a very small number. But calculate the actual number and you will see that 1% is almost 3,000,000 people! Three million people being serious criminals such as murderers! I would say that that is a LOT of people. And Jordan Maxwell must have know that very well. So I sense a kind of double-message coming from him.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5368249979680883398
sweet cheeks
05-08-2007, 07:02 PM
I think that there are well over 350 million people in the U.S., so that might make that figure sorta true.
But I dont trust Maxwell either, at first he had me blown away with his info, but then some of the stuff he says isn't true.
Plus the scandal he got into about making fake I.D's....
Plus his ties to the "mafia", and the thing that he says about getting the "real god of this world" riled up.
I have watched all of his vids on the internet, all I could find.
And with his association with Mtsar and him flaking off Icke, he just seems rather odd.
And I dont trust him.
positive terror
05-08-2007, 07:09 PM
In the below video Jordan Maxwell says that 1% or less of the American population are serious criminals such as murderers. Then he says that that is a very small number. But calculate the actual number and you will see that 1% is almost 3,000,000 people! Three million people being serious criminals such as murderers! I would say that that is a LOT of people. And Jordan Maxwell must have know that very well. So I sense a kind of double-message coming from him.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5368249979680883398
I am with you Anders Lindman, Jordan Maxwell has given us a lot of information, and some has been false. I have seen one of his videos in which said a great lie, I have written him an email, if he don't respond me then I will expose hem here in the forum.
Anders Lindman
05-08-2007, 07:24 PM
And another thing is that the statistics of 1% came from the WHO and the FBI, so how could he suddenly trust those organizations while at the same time saying that they are run by the Illuminati?!
Way too much religious stuff for me to take to him.
Not fussed.
lifeofbrian
05-08-2007, 07:59 PM
In the below video Jordan Maxwell says that 1% or less of the American population are serious criminals such as murderers. Then he says that that is a very small number. But calculate the actual number and you will see that 1% is almost 3,000,000 people! Three million people being serious criminals such as murderers! I would say that that is a LOT of people. And Jordan Maxwell must have know that very well. So I sense a kind of double-message coming from him.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5368249979680883398
Depends on what you mean by "a lot".
If I say something is way too spicy and hot, you may not always agree. Depends on your tolerance for hot and spicy food.
Anders:
Siffran är hög för de som bor i Sverige, men de i unajten kanske tycker siffran är relativt liten. Relativt är nyckelordet. Betyder inte att gubben är en lögnare. Borde finnas bättre exempel på felaktig information om du vill visa att han är tvivelaktig. Kalla fakta som går att bevisa t ex. Har lyssnat en del på vad han ser som sitt område men kan inte säga att han är den jag främst sett till för udda information. Han verkar vara i samma liga som Sitchin.
Anders Lindman
06-08-2007, 10:42 PM
Depends on what you mean by "a lot".
If I say something is way too spicy and hot, you may not always agree. Depends on your tolerance for hot and spicy food.
Anders:
Siffran är hög för de som bor i Sverige, men de i unajten kanske tycker siffran är relativt liten. Relativt är nyckelordet. Betyder inte att gubben är en lögnare. Borde finnas bättre exempel på felaktig information om du vill visa att han är tvivelaktig. Kalla fakta som går att bevisa t ex. Har lyssnat en del på vad han ser som sitt område men kan inte säga att han är den jag främst sett till för udda information. Han verkar vara i samma liga som Sitchin.
One percent being criminals on the level of murderers is a high figure. On average one out of hundred people! Imagine sitting in a cinema with 300 people and on average 3 of them are murderers or the like. Maybe the statistics of 1% is true or maybe it's fear mongering propaganda.
edelweiss pirate
06-08-2007, 11:35 PM
He seems to have far too many famous friends..... and we all know what that means campers....
Anders Lindman
06-08-2007, 11:49 PM
He seems to have far too many famous friends..... and we all know what that means campers....
Hmm... That made me think about how the entire conspiracy theory movement has been guided by the elite from the very beginning! :eek: I know that that is a very paranoid idea, but still... :confused:
shansuke
06-08-2007, 11:53 PM
correct me if im wrong but im sure he said his family where conected or where in the illuminati,is that not how he got in to it all in the first place.
Anders Lindman
07-08-2007, 06:07 AM
correct me if im wrong but im sure he said his family where conected or where in the illuminati,is that not how he got in to it all in the first place.
I'm trying to learn a bit more about Jordan Maxwell. In the following discussion Jordan mentions some relatives:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Wasn't Jordan also connected to the mafia? I may remember wrong here.
My guess at the moment is that Jordan Maxwell is an ordinary conspiracy theorist and not someone who intentionally tries to spread double messages to serve the Illuminati.
Anders Lindman
07-08-2007, 03:48 PM
I have checked out a bit more about Jordan Maxwell. He has some very interesting info! For example, Reinhard Gehlen was not only a Knights of Malta member, but also Reinhard Gehlen was the man in charge of the security for Adolf Hitler. He was chief of security for the Nazi empire. When the Germans was starting to lose the war, the Vatican gives him a ticket to go over and work for America, and he sets up the CIA. Maybe that was old stuff but it was new info for me.
From: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4784289968853357987
In the below video Jordan Maxwell says that 1% or less of the American population are serious criminals such as murderers. Then he says that that is a very small number. But calculate the actual number and you will see that 1% is almost 3,000,000 people! Three million people being serious criminals such as murderers! I would say that that is a LOT of people. And Jordan Maxwell must have know that very well. So I sense a kind of double-message coming from him.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5368249979680883398
message thread says it all:
I don't trust Jordan Maxwell
neither do I, and for the beneffit of those whose B.S detector needs tuning -- Tsarion is in the same boat with Maxwell.
Maxwell never addresses rear issues, like chemtrailing, GWEN/CELL/TETRA towers that are popping up like mushrooms after rain, neither he talks about loss of freedoms and enactment of new draconian laws right now.
No talk about GM food, hormones, children brainwashing... but they do talk about what was predicted for 9/11, so that you can spin your wheels indefinitely chasing the ghosts of past and not seeing the train behind your back.
Or, they talk about The Vatican courtyard, Hidden Roots of Religion (conveniently linked to Nazi cross?! ) http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/index.html
or some other religious half truths or B.S. :
1) Historical research shows that in the Old Testament story of Moses, YHWH was a moon god at Sinai.
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/holywrit/index.html
Is the moon god at Sinai really what we should be worring abvout?
or should we worry about OCCULT LAW ?
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/general-research/occult-law.html
or homosexual affairs of those in white house?
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/general-research/reagan-bush.html
does that that matter for our future?
or Rudy Giuliani in drag?
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/monkey/index.html
or Arcane Subjects to Research
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/arcane.html
do you see what i am pointing out?
do you know how many GWEN towers (those ugly 'cell' towers) I have seen
on my 600 mile trip, in 3 western States, mostly through the desert?
would you care to guess the number and real intent of those towers?
or amount of chemtrail smog in the desert, but even more of that in the cities, just like cell towers.
WHO is the target here? WHY are people like those 2 above mentioned not talking about it?
Why do i care with whom what Pharaoh had sex?
Aren't there more important things to address?
Like, WHY are the families being targeted, especially women with feminism and "their rights" and children with indoctrination, with vaccines and the whole society with Prozac, aspartame and toxins added to to the water, air and the food.
Those are the real issues, together with removal of the freedoms and all of it together with Maxwell's and Tsarion's 'bred and circuses' provided for "unwashed mases" (that is us) so that we can be drugged down, or if it doesn't work we can be put in depression, or if that doesn't work -- we will be like Romans watching senseless murder of human beings while thinking that
bread and circuses is the way of life.
how pathetic that so few are able to see it, to see what really matters.
<frustration>
like Tsarion, Maxwell diverts attention to UNIMPORTANT issues, like how he discovered 9/11 coding (he was most likely given that info to present us with)
yes, 5 years after that event -- does it really matter?
public is too dumbed down to care, media keeps tight lid on the truth.
911 -- get over it, it is as important now as Perl Harbor.
like Tsarion, Maxwell attacks monotheistic religions, especially Christianity because those hard core beliefs are major fucken obstacle to fulfillment of NWO plans.
(so stop attacking monotheistic religions)
meanwhile, they promote hive mind (Masonic) New Age Religion
based on Hinduistic caste system, with modern flavor of it where "everything goes" (read every perversion,every B.S. that you can think of)
so, people like Maxwell and Tsarion have a major job to do; while exposing real corruption like federal reserve is clearly, corruption that in actuality needs to come to consciousness of people in time time and age, so that people can ask for a new system (PRS) -- they are suppressing essential changes that are going on around us. no mention of hormones in food, no mention of chemtrails, no mention how to heal yourself, how to empower others.
just fear and fear based BS, and of course tons of propaganda that will
drive you in desired direction in your thinking.
you would be asking for a new system to replace old, because old system is being "exposed"
and, new system will be lot worse than existing system as it is meant to be.
only, the sheeple (as many of those who are part of 'conspiracy research' are clearly) will ASK for changes.
so, when changes do happen with cashless society it will be because old money system was being 'exposed', first in conspiracy research groups, then in MSM.
NOTHING will be ALLOWED to be exposed, unless big boys want it exposed.
When Ezra Pound and later Eustace Mullins were exposing fed reserve scam -- their very lives were at risk. today, everyone talks about it and no one has a single hair missing.
because, it is meant to be that way.
something BIG is up in the air, and it is coming like the thief in the night
mark my words. I can see the writing on the wall, already.
I hope that before some of you lash out -- to at least would put your thinking cap on and try to disprove what i said.
Go to Tsarion's 7 professional web sites, go to Maxwell's site.
read, search for true information, that empowers you.
You will not find it, i am sure.
Just like you will not find it on breakfornews.com.
all you will get is dwell on the past, and TODAY we forge our own future with TODAY's actions.
now, think about it... who benefits if we live in the past and do not even notice the greatest changes that are not working in our favor???
I AM SURE WE DON'T
terminus_est
07-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Yeah Maxwell is someone who rightfully shouldn't be trusted. And here's yet another reason why. Just look at his photos on his site and you'll come across this one.
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/lucas_eisner_maxwell.gif
I mean just what the hell is he doing posing alongside Michael Eisner, the C-E-FUCKING-O of Walt Disney, which is a MAJOR ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL FRONT(see Fritz Springmeier's work)?! And besides Eisner is a Jew and don't Jews for the most part run the media and entertainment industry?
As for George Lucas, well his Star Wars films; good movies, but they have the New Age agenda behind them. And Lucas himself is a New Ager.
that is right terminus, those are good points, of course.
I raised that issue as wel, on "old Icke's forum"
;-)
and you know that saying that goes something like
"A man is known by the company he keeps"
or, as one old Slavic proverb says:
“With whom you are, that is what you become”
Our character is reflected in our choice of friends, that is for sure.
you can't associate with illumies and be friend of the humanity.
if you associate your self with wrong crowd, sooner or later their ideas become embedded in your head.
pumma
07-08-2007, 11:09 PM
I agree with you people commenting so far... it's interesting how they present Agendas history in detail, but nothing about solutions...
And another thing is that the statistics of 1% came from the WHO and the FBI, so how could he suddenly trust those organizations while at the same time saying that they are run by the Illuminati?!
I've found this (http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/jordanmaxwell/jordanmaxwell.shtm) > not saying it's true but interesting somewhere I've heard he works for MI6 (funny but what IF) ...
Anders Lindman
07-08-2007, 11:23 PM
I've found this (http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/jordanmaxwell/jordanmaxwell.shtm) >
Apparently Jordan has been involved in:
"According to the Memorandum Opinion in Support of Order, under section II entitled FACTS, both Jordan Maxwell, aka Russell Pine, and Vic Varjabedian, from about December 1999 to January 2003 "conducted a nationwide scheme to defraud customers using an internet website and in-bound telemarketing calls. The defendants maintained this website, http://www.bbcoa.com/,[10] where they sold fake international driver's permits, bogus credit repair services, and sham debt termination programs. Maxwell and Varjabedian have directed, controlled, and participated in the acts and practices of BBCOA."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Maxwell
If this is true then that is some serious fraud.
Anders Lindman
08-08-2007, 03:58 AM
Apparently Jordan has been involved in:
"According to the Memorandum Opinion in Support of Order, under section II entitled FACTS, both Jordan Maxwell, aka Russell Pine, and Vic Varjabedian, from about December 1999 to January 2003 "conducted a nationwide scheme to defraud customers using an internet website and in-bound telemarketing calls. The defendants maintained this website, http://www.bbcoa.com/,[10] where they sold fake international driver's permits, bogus credit repair services, and sham debt termination programs. Maxwell and Varjabedian have directed, controlled, and participated in the acts and practices of BBCOA."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Maxwell
If this is true then that is some serious fraud.
And the strange thing is that Jordan says something like: "There is divine justice in the universe. What goes around comes around." And at the same time he is involved in a personal scam to deceive people and take their money?! :confused: Is he completely nuts? Or a full-blown psychopath who can lie about anything or what?
Anders Lindman
08-08-2007, 04:45 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. :D