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mynameis
09-07-2009, 07:41 AM
Tucumcari police chief Tasers 14-year-old
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Girl recovering after dart surgically removed from her head
July 3, 2009 - 4:01 PM
By Chelle Delaney: Freedom New Mexico

A 14-year-old Tucumcari girl is recovering at an Albuquerque hospital after being shot in the head with a Taser dart by Tucucmari Police Chief Roger Hatcher.

Now, her parents say they want the police department to review its policies for using the Taser.

The girl was hit in the head Thursday by one of two darts fired simultaneously as she was fleeing, Hatcher said.

The other dart lodged in her hip.

Hatcher said be believed he had no other option.

“There’s a lot of issues,” Hatcher said. “She committed a delinquent act. She was running from police across traffic without looking.”

Hatcher said he chased her, ordered her to stop and “then did what I had to do.”

Her mother, Stacy Akin, said her daughter underwent surgery Friday morning at University of New Mexico hospital in Albuquerque.

“One of the darts entered her skull,” said Akin, interviewed by telephone.

After a CAT scan, a hospital resident told her the dart was “in her brain a little bit, but not much,” Akin said.

She was in pediatric intensive care following the surgery, Akin said. “She seems OK, but she she’s in a lot of pain. Her head is hurting her real bad.”

Police were trying help Akin because she and her daughter had been fighting, Akin said.

Akin said while she could understand the use of a Taser on an adult, it shouldn’t be used on a child.

“She’s only 14, why?” Aikin asked.

Akin also said her daughter has epilepsy.

The girl’s father, Donny Martinez of Amarillo, said his daughter takes medication for the condition.

“I’d like to find out what happened,” Martinez said, adding, “Someone, independently should look at it” to see if excessive force was used.

Akin said she and her daughter were arguing over a cell phone.

Akin said she drove her daughter to the Tucumcari Police Department to seek help.

While in front of police headquarters, her daughter walked away, Akin said.

Hatcher said he was at another incident when he received a call that a young girl had run off.

Hatcher said he returned to department headquarters and talked to Aikin, who had a bloodied lip and scratches from a fight.

Hatcher said he found the girl at George Molinas Park.

Hatcher said he got out of his vehicle, called to her and she ran in front of his patrol car across Monroe Street without looking for traffic.

Both were in a dead run when the Taser was fired, Hatcher said.

Hatcher said if he’d been able to grab her and put her on the ground, he would have done it instead of firing the Taser.

“There was a lawful reason to do that,” said Hatcher. “I didn’t have another choice and had to get her stopped.”

Akin and her daughter were new in town, Hatcher said, and he did not know where she would go.

Hatcher said if he had not stopped her the consequences might have been worse.

Taser stun guns deliver a 50,000-volt electrical current that incapacitates a person, Hatcher said.

By the time, the darts reach a person that current has greatly decreased, he said.

Hatcher said he plans to refer the case to the Juvenile Probation Office Monday for possible charges.


http://www.pntonline.com/news/tucumcari-17846-year-chief.html
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/nm-police-chief-tasers-14-yr-old-girl

nayan
09-07-2009, 10:08 AM
Dam police, what assholes.

comma berenices
09-07-2009, 10:38 AM
Another reason to get taser's off the street's.:mad:

2x4b
09-07-2009, 10:39 AM
A non-lethal replacement to firearms, right?

So explain how, in this situation (in a world without tasers) it would have been appropriate for officers to gun this girl down....

If they are to be used at all, they should be as a last resort when police are directly at risk of injury or death.

yozhik
09-07-2009, 10:59 AM
A non-lethal replacement to firearms, right?


This is the most important, but all too frequently overlooked, issue.

Tasers were NEVER sold to us as the "default" setting in terms of arrest procedures.
We were told and sold that tasers were a replacement to hand guns.
That tasers would ONLY be used in situations a hand gun would otherwise be used.
The benefits were that it was a non-lethal alternative which would also minimise the psychological impact on the police officer.

If a taser is used, then a hand gun would have been used in the exact situation.

Does this mean that a police officer would shoot a 14 year old "delinquent" with a hand gun???
I think not.

This is abusive use of a deadly weapon.
Yes; deadly weapon.
As has been proven; tasers are lethal.

This is fucked up and must be stopped, then reversed.
Or is this simply an extension of the underlying agenda and nothing more than legalised cattle prods for the goyim???

brainfreeze
09-07-2009, 11:09 AM
Once again, where the tazer is suppose to be used in replacement of a firearm we see that the police are prepared to use them on kids, to save them from themselves. She was running into traffic, the officer said.

So instead of a firearm he used his tazer? :eek:

signothetimes
09-07-2009, 01:12 PM
They are all to trigger happy with these things. Someone in my street had their door kicked in by the rozzers:D last week and they tazered his poor old placid mongrol dog.

No need!:mad:

redskywalker
09-07-2009, 01:18 PM
BADSTARS!


We need these things banned!
We also need to see more police family members m.p.'s families and a few judges grandkids hurt by being tazered or perhaps just one celebrity's kid for new rules to be drawn up. They've killed loads of people with them and I'll bet the number of dead through being shot with a gun by police is still rising.
Or, we could focus on all tazer making factories going bust through fraud or simply exploding through electrical faults :p (with noone in) :D {I can dream}
Ban them! Jail abusing policemen! creepy weirdos use tazers.
Q. Do polcemen only have policemen as friends nowadays?:confused:


oh my fuck @ tazering a mutt in manchester!
Q.2 Do the police still consider themselves human? The days of me defending them and their role are rapidly drawing to a close.

comma berenices
09-07-2009, 01:26 PM
There's a petition on the downing street website against taser's in the UK.

http://petitionsnumber10.gov.uk/endtasers

signothetimes
09-07-2009, 01:27 PM
Dont know but there was a copper on wifeswap the other night..he was a right miserable bstd. Seemed to be deeply unhappy and even more so when he had to go to the gym as part of the program....I was always under the impression that they had to keep up some level of physical fitness???

redskywalker
09-07-2009, 01:27 PM
There's a petition on the downing street website against taser's in the UK.

http://petitionsnumber10.gov.uk/endtasers

Nice one!
many thanks :D


link not working here so I shall seek it

redskywalker
09-07-2009, 01:29 PM
Dont know but there was a copper on wifeswap the other night..he was a right miserable bstd. Seemed to be deeply unhappy and even more so when he had to go to the gym as part of the program....I was always under the impression that they had to keep up some level of physical fitness???

hahaha yip u would think so! not round here though they is fat!

comma berenices
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
Nice one!
many thanks :D


link not working here so I shall seek it

It's under Public order,justice and rights.

Page 2,end the use of taser guns in our police forces.

J Gillick started the petition.

I never have any luck with link's:o

Your welcome.:)

comma berenices
09-07-2009, 01:40 PM
There are couple of threads started by Flyermay on taser's he's posted some good info and vids.

He's doing some good stuff on this subject.I don't know how to link so i'll bump the most recent for those that might be interested.


PS;Bumped the thread it's in the general section,Taser Guns the facts.

decim
09-07-2009, 01:59 PM
Thanks Daddy.
http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/07/xrep_banner05.jpg

comma berenices
09-07-2009, 02:19 PM
Thanks Daddy.
http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/07/xrep_banner05.jpg

I downloaded this picture and put it on a flyer,most people that i have shown it to don't believe it's a taser,my oh my are they in for a wake up call:(

decim
09-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Comma, when the sleepers rub their eyes & finally take a good look around, it will be too late.

Good job with the flyers.

Try try try

entrainment
09-07-2009, 02:48 PM
This is the correct link

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/EndTasers/

signothetimes
17-08-2009, 06:56 PM
hahaha yip u would think so! not round here though they is fat!


ha ha ha nice 1.:D

lightworks
17-08-2009, 06:58 PM
http://www.pntonline.com/news/tucumcari-17846-year-chief.html
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/nm-police-chief-tasers-14-yr-old-girlthat stupid robotic reptile police officer
"I did what I had to do"......duuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh:eek:

real6
17-08-2009, 07:54 PM
Damn this cop must have been beat up in school as a kid and so scared that he couldnt run after a 14 year old girl and hold her?!?!?!?!

How BITCHFULL IS THAT OF HIM?!?!?!?!?

basel
18-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Someone wants to email this thread to the police station in question asking for comments

dangermouse
18-08-2009, 04:22 PM
well i just watched transformers 2 and there is a bit where they tazer the anoying guy to shut him up. Predictive programing :rolleyes:

ronisron
18-08-2009, 04:25 PM
Another atrocious example of excessive use of a taser by a psycho cop. Chief no less..... that sends a strong message to his subordinates, doesn't it? Before tasers, someone would have had to actually chase her, and subdue her. She'd have fought a little, but these guys are trained for that. She'd have been cuffed and walked back. Now, they just whip out these tasers and fire away. It's crazy.

They want people to fear the police now. You could get tasered for not producing ID on a routine check, in a quickly escalating, one thing leads to another scenario. A lot of cops have a thug mentality these days, and some are just dying for an excuse to use one of these things.

I remember a few years ago, seeing a documentary on the possible use of tasers by police. It was to be very limited, and part of training was that each officer who was assigned a taser, had to be subjected to a shot from one. It was to deter the misuse of them, and to emphasize the use only if absolutely necessary. Some of the cops were taking the hits OK, some were stunned, some peed themselves or vomited. The general consensus of the interviewed participants was "I hope I never have to use this on someone..."

mrindigo
18-08-2009, 04:36 PM
I can't believe he even considered using that on a 14 year old girl...unarmed at that. What a big man...

What's even more insane was his reason for justification.Wouldn't tasering someone running into traffic be even more dangerous than just letting them run through, and catching them after? She could have collapsed in the middle of the road and got run over... Sounds like he was thinking of protecting insurance companies more than the girl. What the hell is going on with the world?

godspeed
18-08-2009, 05:16 PM
most cops are chipped now so we dont really know what orders they are answering to.....in their zombie heads.....sign the petition...all we can do......:eek:

this whole story should be enough to ban them without petition........shocking....

wildhorse
18-08-2009, 05:37 PM
for crying out loud...I fucking hate these things :mad:

stupid, fat, shit scared pigs because they cant take on a 14 year old girl.

I bet if we shot one of these at the nearest copper, you could bet ya bottom dollar it would be 'whine whine...I was seriously injured...whine whine...I could have been killed...whine"

aha...thats exactly why they should be banned because they are a menace and an instrument of complience through torture.

I was on train other day and saw a notice to BEWARE - DANGER - 240 VOLTS
I was like what...!!!...thats nowt compared to a taser!

cops cant be trusted with them imho

wildhorse
18-08-2009, 05:48 PM
BADSTARS!


We need these things banned!
We also need to see more police family members m.p.'s families and a few judges grandkids hurt by being tazered or perhaps just one celebrity's kid for new rules to be drawn up. They've killed loads of people with them and I'll bet the number of dead through being shot with a gun by police is still rising.
Or, we could focus on all tazer making factories going bust through fraud or simply exploding through electrical faults :p (with noone in) :D {I can dream}
Ban them! Jail abusing policemen! creepy weirdos use tazers.
Q. Do polcemen only have policemen as friends nowadays?:confused:


oh my fuck @ tazering a mutt in manchester!
Q.2 Do the police still consider themselves human? The days of me defending them and their role are rapidly drawing to a close.

yeah then the rules will change thats for sure...

thing is, even with regards to money...how can anybody MAKE these things and go to sleep at night.

the odds of mentally healthy and emotionally stable police officers against sociopaths are less and less it seems.

antace000
18-08-2009, 06:51 PM
I was on train other day and saw a notice to BEWARE - DANGER - 240 VOLTS
I was like what...!!!...thats nowt compared to a taser!

cops cant be trusted with them imho

Well actually its not the voltage that will kill you but the current (Amps). It only takes 50 milliAmps across your heart to kill you, so tazers must run on a lower amperage than whatever you saw with a voltage of 240volts. :)

But your right, cops can't be trusted with them, actually tbh, I wouldn't trust anyone with one.

deem
18-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Police are human, just not humane.:(

basel
18-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Its always nice to put a face to a story

http://images.quickblogcast.com/111943-104535/Hatcher.jpg

injuries
http://images.quickblogcast.com/111943-104535/Kailee1.jpg
http://images.quickblogcast.com/111943-104535/Kailee2.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o

http://www.newschannel10.com/global/story.asp?s=10806992
looks like he got away with it

always_rebel
18-08-2009, 10:16 PM
Akin said she drove her daughter to the Tucumcari Police Department to seek help.


What a moronic mother [rolls eyes] seeking help to calm down her child at a polce dpt. Sick.



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