Australian guv push to add fluoride

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5tILUNbPLo

*IMPORTANT*
Laura Leis no longer works at the APVMA!
The new contacts are Peter Prammer (he is the boss )
peter.prammer@apvma.gov.au
Phone: 02 6210 4703

Or alternatively, Colin McCormack (Pesticides Officer)
colin.mccormack@apvma.gov.au
Phone: 02 6210 4748.

The number for APVMA is 02 6210 4700.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/
http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-pollution.htm
The Bill:
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/Legislation/Bills1.nsf/0/E8B1908FC6933FE0CA2572BE00826934?OpenDocument
Fluoride is poison! They even spray crops with it! Don't try and tell me that this is a conspiracy theory, don't even bother!
Get this! The above article says that the local councils would be expected to contribute to the operating costs of fluoridation. Scum! They make us pay to get poisoned!
If you are new to the Truth, watch my other videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/EpiphanyProductions

"Airborne fluorides have caused more worldwide damage to domestic animals than any other air pollutant." - US Department of Agriculture. Air Pollutants Affecting the Performance of Domestic Animals. Agricultural Handbook No. 380. Revised. 1972. p. 109.

"Certainly, there has been more litigation on alleged damage to agriculture by fluoride than all other pollutants combined." - Weinstein LH. (1983)."Effects of Fluorides on Plants and Plant Communities: An Overview." In: Shupe JL, Peterson HB, Leone NC, (Eds). Fluorides: Effects on Vegetation, Animals, and Humans. Paragon Press. Salt Lake City, Utah. pp. 53-59.

Between 1957 and 1968 "fluoride was responsible for more damage claims against industry than all twenty [nationally monitored air pollutants] combined." - Groth E. (1969). Air is Fluoridated. The Peninsula Observer Jan 27 - Feb 3.

~ Fluoride is NOT FDA APPROVED


~ According to Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, fluoride rated #2 on the toxicity scale, right under arsenic and above lead.


~ In the March 22, 1990 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, Mayo Clinic reported that fluoride increased hip fracture rate and bone fragility.


~A study by Procter and Gamble showed that as little as half the amount of fluoride used to fluoridate public water supplies resulted in a sizable and significant increase in genetic damage.




~Epidemiology research in the mid-1970's by the late Dr. Dean Burk, head of the cytochemistry division of the National Cancer Institute, indicated that 10,000 or more fluoridation-linked cancer deaths occur yearly in the United States.




~In 1989, the ability of fluoride to transform normal cells into cancer cells was confirmed by Argonne National Laboratories.




~ Since 1991, the New Jersey Department of Health found that the incidence of osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer, was far higher in young men exposed to fluoridated water than in those who were not.


~In addition to the well documented toxic effects of fluoride, fluoride even at dosages of 1 part per million, found in artificially fluoridated water, can inhibit enzyme systems, damage the immune system, contribute to calcification of soft tissues, worsen arthritis and, cause dental fluorosis in children.




"The American Medical Association is NOT prepared to state that no harm will be done to any person by water fluoridation. The AMA has not carried out any research work, either long-term or short-term, regarding the possibility of any side effects." - Dr. Flanagan, Assistant Director of Environmental Health, American Medical Association.


"I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable." - Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.


The fluoride used for water fluoridation does not have FDA approval and is considered by the FDA as an "unapproved drug".

And it's not just in the water or supplements. Did you know that if you have wheaties with milk, and a can of coke for breakfast you have injested 233% MORE fluoride than the standard 1ppm daily recommended dose? There's no getting away from it I'm afraid, it's in everything you eat and drink. The water sprayed on the crops contains fluoride, so does the fertilizer. The LEAST we can do is NOT put it in our bodies above and beyond what we are forced to take in already.

But it saves our kids' teeth you say? WRONG

~In the largest U.S. study of fluoridation and tooth decay, United States Public Health Service dental records of over 39,000 school children, ages 5-17, from 84 areas around the United States showed that the number of decayed, missing, and filled teeth per child was virtually the same in fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas.

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http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2008/11/11/fsanz-considers-permitting-fluoride-in-bottled-water.html

FSANZ considers permitting fluoride in bottled water

* November 11, 2008
* Daniel Palmer
* Source: FSANZ

Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) proposes amending the Australia New Zealand Food Standards Code to allow manufacturers to voluntarily add fluoride to bottled water.

The addition of certain substances, such as fluoride, must undergo a pre-market safety evaluation by FSANZ before they are approved for use at specified levels.

If FSANZ approves the sale of bottled water containing added fluoride, it will be a voluntary permission. Manufacturers will be able to add fluoride or not, under the conditions of the food standard.

Voluntary addition of fluoride to packaged water

(Application A588 - Draft Assessment)

The Australian Beverages Council Ltd has applied for approval for the voluntary addition of fluoride, at a level of 0.6 - 1.0 milligrams per litre (total of naturally occurring and added fluoride), to packaged (bottled) water. This level equates to fluoride levels in fluoridated reticulated water supplies.

The applicant claims approval would enable bottlers to offer fluoridated packaged water to consumers as an alternative to fluoridated reticulated water, or as a source of fluoride for those who do not have access to fluoridated reticulated water. FSANZ has concluded that there are no public health and safety concerns and propose to approve the application, with the condition that the presence of added fluoride must be stated on the package label.

Submissions: FSANZ welcomes public comment from industry, public health professionals, government agencies and consumers up until Tuesday 23 December 2008. Details of the applications above can be found at: http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/

FSANZ proposes amendment to bottled water rules
http://www.foodweek.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=53&articleType=ArticleView&articleId=2873

Food Standards Australia New Zealand has released a report for public comment proposing to amend the Australia New Zealand Food Standards Code to allow manufacturers to voluntarily add fluoride to bottled water.

The addition of certain substances, such as fluoride, must undergo a pre-market safety evaluation by FSANZ before they are approved for use at specified levels.

If FSANZ approves the sale of bottled water containing added fluoride, it will be a voluntary permission. Manufacturers will be able to add fluoride or not, under the conditions of the food standard.

FSANZ welcomes submissions from interested parties, which should be in FSANZ’s hands by Tuesday 23 December 2008.

Bottled Water Institute welcomes fluoride "recommendations"
http://www.foodweek.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=53&articleType=ArticleView&articleId=1625

The bottled water industry has welcomed the recommendation by Food Standards Australia-New Zealand to allow bottled water companies to add fluoride to their products.

But the government has tried to dampen the institute's enthusiasm, a spokesman from Senator Jan McLucas' office saying there is no such recommendation yet - all FSANZ has done is agree to seek submissions from the public at this point.

“The bottled water industry is in the business of providing choice and convenience to its consumers. This recommendation, if adopted by the Australia New Zealand Food Regulations Ministerial Council will enable us to provide our consumers with an additional choice when purchasing bottled water”, Tony Gentile, executive director of the Australasian Bottled Water Institute (ABWI) said.

“The current food laws do not allow us to add fluoride to bottled water. The recommendation if adopted will allow bottled water companies to provide side-by-side alternatives allowing consumers to purchase fluoridated bottled waters or non fluoridated ones as they can now.

“We understand that many of our consumers currently purchase bottled water as they wish to avoid consuming fluoride and it is important that they always be given a choice. Fluoridated bottled water brands will be clearly marked as such on the front panel of containers,” added Gentile.

The bottled water industry has often come under attack with suggestions that as spring water is not fluoridated, it was a contributing cause of dental decay in children. This suggestion was repudiated by Gentile who said that there was no evidence of this being the case.

The recommended maximum levels for the voluntary addition of fluoride to bottled water are the same as those currently permitted for municipal water supplies. The application was lodged by the industry with support from the Australian Dental Association.

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22844585-23289,00.html


Dentists call for fluoride in bottled water

Adam Cresswell, Health editor | December 01, 2007



BOTTLED water should be fluoridated to the same concentrations as public drinking water in order to reduce tooth decay, according to a revised policy by Australia's top dental body.

The Australian Dental Association has reinforced its existing stance in favour of fluoridation, saying there is now "clear solid scientific evidence" that the practice is effective at protecting teeth.

"The claims of those opposing fluoridation are based on outdated information and selective studies that support their case," the ADA said. "However, no convincing or credible scientific evidence exists that fluoride, when supplied at the optimum level (one part per million) in drinking water, causes any adverse health effects."

ADA president and Melbourne dentist John Matthews says other changes in the revised policy relate to fluoride supplements, which the association no longer recommends in tablet form due to the risk of fluorosis, or mottling of the teeth.

However, Matthews says that although there has been a slight increase in the rate of dental decay among children, he does not believe the theory that this is caused by children drinking bottled water, which currently cannot be fluoridated by law.

Instead, he says it is more likely to be related to a deliberate reduction in the concentration of fluoride incorporated into children's toothpastes. This concentration has been halved relative to adult toothpaste in order to be "extra safe" in reducing the risk of fluorosis, but the flip side may well be that dental caries rise slightly as a result.

"Fluoride should be added to bottled water at the normal level in reticulated (town) water, which varies from 0.6 parts per million to 1 part per million (ppm), depending on the humidity and water consumption," he says. "In the bottom part of Australia the level (of added fluoride) is different to the top part."

Fluoridation of drinking water remains contentious in some parts of Australia, particularly Queensland, where less than 5 per cent of drinking water supplies are fortified with the mineral -- a stark difference to most other parts of Australia. Often the decision has been left to local councils, leading to emotive debates.

Although fluorides are naturally occurring compounds and are present in a wide variety of foods, usually at low concentrations, opponents of fluoridation focus on the fact that the element fluorine, from which they are derived, is toxic in its pure form.

Fluorides themselves can have harmful effects at high doses. Advocates of fluoridation say this is not a relevant criticism when the concentrations in drinking water are less than 1 part per million, and plenty of other compounds necessary for human health -- including common table salt, comprising sodium and chlorine which are both essential for life -- are also toxic in higher doses.

A circular about the new policy distributed by the ADA says recent Australian research has added to the weight of evidence in favour of the safety and efficacy of fluoride in drinking water. The circular says tooth decay is higher in Queensland than other states that have higher rates of water fluoridation. However, in Townsville -- one of the few Queensland cities to be fluoridated, since 1964 -- children have 45 per cent less tooth decay than their counterparts in Brisbane.

"Today, it is estimated that 31 per cent of Australian adults remain without access to fluoridated public water," the ADA says. "Sadly, much of this is due to decisions made at local and state government level which have become politically motivated rather than based on scientific fact."

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/828470/vic-minister-receives-death-threat

MP receives death threats over fluoride

17:26 AEST Mon Jun 22 2009
By Catherine Best

Police have taken the unusual step of patrolling a Victorian government minister's house after a row over fluoride in drinking water erupted in death threats and a bomb threat.

Anti-fluoride extremists have threatened to kill state Labor MP Lisa Neville "slowly" and blow up water treatment plants, because the regional city of Geelong is to add fluoride to its water.

Police are investigating numerous threats against Barwon Water and government officials, but the local anti-fluoride lobby group says it's not responsible.

In the latest incident, a death threat was scrawled on a Barwon Water bottle left on the front verandah of Ms Neville's Geelong home.

The message read: "Thanks for the poison bitch ready to kill you slowly."

Ms Neville said she and her 12-year-old son were shaken when they found the bottle after returning home on Saturday night.

The local member for Bellarine contacted police who are examining security at her home.

"They will be undertaking a safety audit of my own home to ensure myself and my son can be safe there," Ms Neville said.

She said police would regularly drive past her home.

"Extremist behaviour like this is completely unacceptable and we would expect that Victoria Police would use all the force of the law against these people," she said.

Threats have also been made against the Department of Human Services (DHS).

South Barwon Labor MP Michael Crutchfield has upgraded security at his electorate office on advice from police and has urged other Geelong MPs to follow suit.

He said local residents would be aghast at the threats, which he labelled "health terrorism".

Last week, a radical green group threatened the boss of Victoria's Hazelwood power station in a letter hand-delivered to his home.

Geelong Police Acting Senior Sergeant Tony Francis said a team of detectives was working to identify the source of the threat.

"We treat any threat of this nature as serious ... and we'll conduct a full investigation into each and every one of them," he told AAP.

Barwon Association for Freedom from Fluoridation (BAFF) has condemned the threats and says its 200 members are not involved.

President Keith Oakley said it was possible the pro-fluoride lobby was responsible.

"I've often worried if someone is trying to do it on the pro side to discredit us," he told AAP.

"People are angry, but the way to go through it is through appropriate court action."

Ms Neville said she had no doubt the threats were the work of anti-fluoride extremists, who had warned recently that they would ramp up their campaign.

But the incident would not stop fluoridation beginning in Geelong on Monday, she said.

Geelong Mayor John Mitchell, who personally opposes fluoridation, said protesters should accept the decision and move on.

"I'm disgusted by it. Everyone has the legal right to protest and vent their views in accordance with the law," he told AAP.

"This is, obviously, not in accordance with the law."

Is this a ‘death threat’?
http://alpineopinion.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/is-this-a-death-threat/

Posted in Politics by Ray Dixon on 22 June, 2009

“Thanks for the poison bitch. Ready to kill you slowly.”

The media is all agog with news that Victorian Community Services Minister Lisa Neville received a death threat at her home at the weekend in protest against the introduction of fluoride to Geelong’s water supply. The so-called ’threat’ consisted of the above words written on a bottle of water placed on her front veranda. I’ve seen the bottle on tonight’s TV news but I can’t find a photo of it anywhere yet on the net. Anyway, I think someone needs to learn english grammar. And that someone is : Ms Neville, the media and anyone else claiming the message unequivocally means the author wants to ‘kill her slowly’.

If you know grammar, you’ll notice there’s an absence of the words “I am” or “We are” ahead of the word “ready”. And that means that it is ”the poison” (i.e. fluoridated water) that is “ready to kill you slowly”. The “you” is therefore collective and not singularly aimed at Ms Neville, unless the water in the bottle is actually “poison”, which it doesn’t seem to be.

The author is merely saying that, in his/her opinion, fluoride slowly kills those who have to drink it.

I’m not defending the cretin who wrote it and placed it at her doorstep. I actually think it was designed to be “threatening” and put the wind up her. But it’s just cleverly written and is NOT a death threat. The most the perpetrator could be charged with is trespass.

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clubwah said, on 22 June, 2009 at 9:22 pm
That’s a death threat. These people are sickos and I hope they are awoken one night soon by the rifle mounted torchlight of a Special Operations Group cop and shit the bed.
This sort of thing happened 30 years ago when Melbourne got flouride. When I did my apprenticeship with the water board were were sworn to screcy about the location of flouridation plants at the reservoirs. I can’t beleive that three decades later there are idiots still peddling the bulshit fear campaigns.
Where is any evidence that fouride kills? These people are thugs.

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Dave from Albury said, on 22 June, 2009 at 9:33 pm
The small country town I grew up in in northern NSW had fluoridated water, I never gave it a second thought. Not long after moving to Albury I read Charles Waterstreet’s excellent memoir ‘Precious Bodily Fluids’ which, among other things, talked about the fluoride debate in Albury in the ’50s. I laughed and laughed at the crazy anti-fluoride nutters and their ridiculous claims, only to find that over 50 years later half of Victoria still thinks the same way.
I’ll bet you a dollar that the correlation between anti-fluoride campaigners, climate change denialists, anti-vaccers, and sycophantic Andrew Bolt commenters is pretty close to 1.0

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clubwah said, on 22 June, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Bolt would lump climate change alarmists in the same boat as anti-flouride campaigners – I would add the War on Terror Alarmists like Bolt to that list.

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Ray Dixon said, on 22 June, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Well there are hateful nutters behind it, that goes without saying. But I reckon the message as written stops short of an actual death threat.

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Ray Dixon said, on 23 June, 2009 at 12:02 am
That’s a death threat. These people are sickos
Agreed they’re “sickos”, Wah. But how is that a death threat?

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Orville_B_Croft said, on 23 June, 2009 at 6:23 am
I’ll bet you a dollar that the correlation between anti-fluoride campaigners, climate change denialists, anti-vaccers, and sycophantic Andrew Bolt commenters is pretty close to 1.0
Nah, I’m not a real big fan of Bolt

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roxannatas said, on 23 June, 2009 at 6:44 am
Dave, that book is one of the funniest I’ve ever read. You’re the only person outside my family I’ve ever heard mention it.
Nothing wrong with fluoride. Tassie’s had it forever and look at us.

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Dave from Albury said, on 23 June, 2009 at 9:15 am
It was pretty much required reading here in Albury, Rox. As a newcomer to town it was actually really cool comparing the Albury of his youth to the one we’d just moved into.
An extra level of humour is unearthed once you know the geography of the town too, I pissed myself laughing at the story of them driving to Albury Public School to vote as it’s less than two blocks from their pub, while they walked to church, which is another block away.
His second book, Repeating the Leaving, is also an excellent read, however much sadder as his teenage self is more aware of the cause of his mother’s illness than he was in Precious Bodily Fluids.

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Ray Dixon said, on 23 June, 2009 at 9:24 am
Any ‘death threats’ written on bottles in Albury?

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Brian Jackson said, on 23 June, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Its important not to get dragged into a debate about nut cases who are prepared to make death threats or use violence to fight fluoridation. Non Violent Direct Action is quite acceptable and may be necessary to lift the campaign into the media but violence and damage to property dont win environmental arguments, they lose them. Sometimes the more unscrupulous media even make these stories or at least exaggerate them in order to create news. The act of Putting fluoride in drinking water could be argued as violence to individuals without consensus and permission and in some cases could even be a death threat to especially sensitive people. However Organisations and individuals involved with the fluoride campaign, neither use nor tolerate violence or damage to property and will no doubt wish to distance themselves from such threats or behaviour and all those who use such tactics. The danger and the enemy here is fluoride itself and those such as Ann Bligh who, without reference to democracy or individual consent, seek to imposethis useless and toxic chemical upon us.
Brian Jackson Friends of the Earth Fluoridation Campaign

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Ray Dixon said, on 23 June, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Those ‘nut cases’ would appear to be part of (or at least associated with) your group, Brian.
However, as I’ve said above, I don’t believe the message on the bottle was actually a death threat. I think it was designed to scare, but technically it wasn’t a threat. It also looked like it came from an organised group – it was a printed message, not hand scrawled. Just placing it on the Minister’s doorstep was ‘threatening’ though.
As for your cause, well quite frankly, I think your efforts are wasted and there are more worthy causes to get worked up about. Thanks for the link to your website*.
(* The link is in Brian’s name at the start of his comment)

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Mainstream media systematically attacks bottled water in Australia...

Mmmm Flouride...

No water shall pass your lips that we dont own (and medicate)

Remember that privateers, private companies, can set up bottled water operations. They are not required to add Fluoride or other medications to that water. These moves will wipe their businesses all out.

Plastic bottles are the reason for the PROBLEM>REACTION>SOLUTION

But you wont see plastic banned from packaging other foods in the big supermarkets, even though plastic migration into food occurs, resulting in petrochemicals and estrogen mimmicks entering our bodies.




Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6665855.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6665855.ece)
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Australian town bans bottled water
A small Australian town is set to ban bottled water, in what is believed to be a world first.
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Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25752012-29277,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25752012-29277,00.html)
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State Government bans bottled water
NSW Premier Nathan Rees has announced an immediate ban on all departments and agencies buying bottled water, including supplies for water coolers.

He says it is the first step in a government campaign to significantly reduce the consumption of bottled water in the community.
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Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23238015-2,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23238015-2,00.html)
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Bottled water 'bad as smoking'
DRINKING bottled water is so anti-environment that it should be made as unfashionable as smoking.
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Source: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22844585-23289,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22844585-23289,00.html)
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Dentists call for fluoride in bottled water
BOTTLED water should be fluoridated to the same concentrations as public drinking water in order to reduce tooth decay, according to a revised policy by Australia's top dental body.
. thanks for the info Ownoiz, seen this on the news yesterday.

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http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1012401563725&ref=nf

Emergency Warning Fluoride Alert
by Melissa Short Australia
4:17
The Australian Government is about to pass into law the spraying of all wheat, corn, seeds and nuts etc. with Fluoride. This ia an Emergency!

This video shows the effects of Fluoride at 1 PPM (Parts Per Million)

There are estimates that some food groups will have Fluoride levels as high as 900 PPM.

Toothpaste has 1000 PPM of Fluoride.

Are they insane?!?

The US is already doing it.

Stop them from doing it here.

Email:
Laura.Leis at apvma.gov.au

or

Tell your local representative.

Its called the:
"Food Standards Australia New Zealand Amendment Bill 2007"

NOW!! Before it's too late.
(Its very close)

Dow Agro-sciences is the company that will make the money from selling us this poison.

APVMA is the Government body that is purchasing the poison on our behalf. www.apvma.gov.au

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

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from a truther in a group i am in......


Hey group went to a anti-fluoride meeting last night at the local library and we if we dont stop it will actually be getting Hydrofluorosilic acid different from QLD's fluoride.The stuff in QLD's water is bad enough but this stuff is deadly.
Hydrofluorosilic acid comes from the manufacture of fertilisers,years ago they used to pump this amongst other poisons out through chimney stacks until environmental studies showed that it was poisoning the environment.So these companies were made capture these poisons with what is called wet chimney's(a water filtering system that collects these poisons and was then put into storage tanks.Then of course there was the problem of what to do with these LEVEL 7(the highest rating for poisons same as arsenic)WASTE PRODUCTS then some bright spark came up with the idea that they could feed it into the water supply that we drink to get rid of it without anyone realising what it is.
The word fluoride is a misnomer there is no such thing as Fluoride,it sounds aesthetically less harmless than Hydrofuorosilic ACID or monofluoroPHOSPHATE which is what is being put into our water supplies.There has also not been any studies to see what chemical reaction happens when you mix this in with Chlorine.
See below 20 minute vdeo called "professional prospectives on water fluoridation" lots of doctors dentists and scientists very hard hitting must watch and pass on.Geoff click on fluoridealert link and video at top of page.
http://fluoridealert.org/

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We have a small reverse osmosis water filtration system and where the waste runs out, you can see a corrosion around the plug hole just after 3 months. In our area the TDS in the mains water is 480ppm but apart from knowing that a flouride compound and chlorine is added we have no idea what else might be in there damaging us on its own or by reacting with the other chemicals.

I suggest that all of us from Oz contact Nick X as well, put him under a bit of pressure.

[nayan]

I've seen a similar post like this before. But people, stop using flouride toothpastes!

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[jconnar]

I've seen a similar post like this before. But people, stop using flouride toothpastes!

My local supermarket only has fluoride toothpaste.

I think I'm just going to brush with a strong bristled brush. I don't think the toothpaste does much anyway except make your mouth minty. The abrasion of the brush on the teeth cleans them.