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real6
08-07-2009, 05:08 PM
Goldman Sachs Admits Its Software Can "Manipulate Markets in Unfair Ways”


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/07/goldman-sachs-admits-its-software-can.html

Goldman Sachs says that its program trading software can be used to manipulate markets:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/business/07goldman.html?_r=3&ref=business

The bank has raised the possibility that there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a_6d.tyNe1KQ

Given that Goldman obviously knows how to use its own program - which it paid many millions for - isn't that a virtual admission that Goldman has been manipulating markets?

synergy777
08-07-2009, 05:55 PM
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/07/05/a-goldman-trading-scandal/?p=4378?tempedition=debatehub

July 5th, 2009

Was Goldman’s trading software stolen?

Matthew Goldstein is a Reuters columnist. The views expressed are his own.–

Did someone try to steal Goldman Sachs’ secret sauce?

While most in the United States were celebrating the Fourth of July holiday, a Russian immigrant living in New Jersey was being held on federal charges of stealing secret computer trading codes from a major New York-based financial institution.

Authorities did not identify the firm, but sources say the institution is none other than Goldman Sachs .

The charges, if proven, are significant because the codes that the accused, Sergey Aleynikov, tried to steal are the secret sauce to Goldman’s automated stock and commodities trading business.

Federal authorities contend the computer codes and related-trading files that Aleynikov uploaded to a German-based website help this major financial institution generate millions of dollars in profits each year.

The platform is one of the things that gives Goldman an advantage over the competition when it comes to the rapid-fire trading of stocks and commodities. Federal authorities say the platform quickly processes rapid developments in the markets and using secret mathematical formulas, allows the firm to make highly-profitable automated trades.

The criminal case has the potential to shed a light on the inner workings of an important profit center for Goldman and other Wall Street firms. The charges also raise serious questions about the safeguards that Wall Street firms deploy to protect these costly-to-build proprietary trading systems.

The criminal case began to unfold on the evening of July 3, when Aleynikov was arrested by FBI agents at Newark Airport after returning from Chicago.

Aleynikov apparently had just started a job with another big firm in Chicago after leaving his previous employer in New York in early June. It appears that the financial institution allegedly victimized by Aleynikov had alerted federal authorities that its former employee might be up to no good.

On July 4, Aleynikov was processed on a “theft of trade secrets charge” in a criminal complaint. As of Sunday morning, he was still being held at the Metropolitan Correction Center in Brooklyn.

A Goldman spokesman declined to comment on the incident. A spokeswoman for the United States Attorney’s Office in Manhattan did not comment.

Sabrina Shroff, Aleynikov’s lawyer, says the facts will bear out that her client is innocent. She’s hoping he will be released from custody soon.

His wife, Elina, says her husband is innocent. Speaking in a phone interview from the couple’s New Jersey home, she says her husband worked hard for Goldman and has been a good citizen — noting he’s lived in the United States for 19 years. She seems mystified that federal authorities would arrest him on the eve of a holiday.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, in charging Aleynikov, says he began working for the major financial institution in May 2007 as a computer programmer and left in early June. That matches the description of a man named Serge Aleynikov on the social networking site LinkedIn (the difference in spelling of the first name could not be immediately explained).

The biographical information for Aleynikov on LinkedIn says he joined Goldman in May 2007 and was vice president for equity strategy. The bio says he was responsible for “development of a distributed real-time co-located high-frequency trading platform.”

The case against Aleynikov may explain why the New York Stock Exchange moved quickly last week to stop reporting program stock trading for its most active firms.

Goldman was often at the top of the chart — far ahead of its competitors. It’s possible Goldman had asked the NYSE to stop reporting the number after it discovered that someone may have infiltrated the proprietary computer codes it uses.

Here’s the way the criminal complaint describes the Goldman trading platform:

“The Financial Institution has devoted substantial resources to developing and maintaining a computer platform that allows the Financial Institution to engage in sophisticated high-speed, and high-volume trades on various stock and commodities markets. Among other things, the platform is capable of quickly obtaining and processing information regarding rapid developments in these markets.”

Federal authorities appear to believe Aleynikov may have had help. The German website that Aleynikov is accused of uploading the stolen information to is registered to a person in London.

While the case is still unfolding, there is more information to unearth about Aleynikov. For instance, it appears he and his wife are competitive ballroom dancers — there are videos of them on YouTube.com.

Many questions remain.

Which Chicago firm hired Aleynikov? The job he took in Chicago, according to the criminal complaint, paid nearly three times more than his $400,000 salary at Goldman.

Also, there’s more to learn about anyone who might have been helping him and the fallout the case may have for Goldman. When he was arrested, Aleynikov told the FBI he “only intended to collect ‘open source’ files on which he had worked, but later realized that he had obtained more files than he intended.”

Quick, get this guy a good lawyer.

One question investors need to ask is whether this incident will have any impact on Goldman’s second-quarter earnings. The alleged wrongdoing by Aleynikov took place at the beginning of June — although it’s not clear if it had any material impact on automated trading.

synergy777
08-07-2009, 05:59 PM
http://www.nwotruth.com/rolling-stone-expose-goldman-sachs-behind-every-market-crash-since-1920s/

Rolling Stone expose: Goldman Sachs behind every market crash since 1920s
Posted by Philip Dru on 7/02/09 • Categorized as Economy

Goldman Sachs has played a crucial role in creating every market bubble since the 1920s — and has profited from not only the bubbles, but from the crash that followed as well, says a new expose in Rolling Stone magazine.

An article in the July 9-23 issue of the magazine, written by Matt Taibbi, lists five asset bubbles that the 140-year-old investment bank helped create — and one that Taibbi asserts the firm is currently working to make happen.

The five bubbles the article says Goldman was central to creating are the Wall Street stock bubble in the 1920s, which led to the Great Depression; the tech-stock bubble of the late 1990s, which ended in the 2001 recession; the housing bubble of the past decade, which resulted in the current economic crisis; the oil price run-up last summer, when oil shot up to $140 a barrel, likely helping tilt the entire world into recession; and what Taibbi describes as "rigging the bailout," when Goldman Sachs’ well-placed alumni inside the U.S. government engineered last fall’s bank bailout in such a way that the company profited massively.

Taibbi writes that Goldman Sachs has traditionally been a late arrival to market bubbles, getting in once others have started the trend, but, once in, the company quickly ramps up the bubble, predicts its bursting, and then hedges its bets so as to make money from the bubble crash.

The article, which is not yet officially available online, adds one more bubble to the list: the "global warming bubble," or specifically, the proposed cap-and-trade legislation that would allow companies to trade pollution credits on an open market.

Taibbi’s argument suggests the Wall Street bank may well want to turn climate change policy into yet another Wall Street casino game.

Because emissions caps will continually be reduced, Taibbi argues, pollution credits will constantly be growing in value, and Goldman Sachs wants in on the ground floor.

Taibbi writes: "The plan is (1) to get in on the ground floor of paradigm-shifting legislation, (2) make sure that they’re the profit-making slice of that paradigm and (3) make sure the slice is — a big slice. Goldman started pushing hard for cap-and-trade long ago, but things really ramped up last year when the firm spent $3.5 million to lobby climate issues."

On his blog, Taibbi has begun a discussion of the public reaction to his article. Some commenters have suggested that Taibbi’s understanding of high finance is limited, accusing him of misreading Goldman Sachs’ actions.

– Daniel Tencer

Raw Story

| Wednesday, July 1, 2009

real6
08-07-2009, 06:00 PM
I saw on someother forum that Aleynikov had found this program and no one was never to see it so he reported to his boss and then got into trouble. Dont know if thats true?

synergy777
08-07-2009, 06:18 PM
the software they use is one of the edges these firms have.

the usage of fibonacci, quants, algorithims, the sheer huge amounts data they can process in a quick time, gives them the edge in trading.

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as for it being true, i'm not sure, as on this type of stuff, he would have probably signed some secrecy/disclosure acts, as these are trade/company secrets. and he would not be allowed to divulge the details of the software.

also what the security of the software, surely they would have protected the software.

real6
08-07-2009, 06:29 PM
http://www.nwotruth.com/rolling-stone-expose-goldman-sachs-behind-every-market-crash-since-1920s/

Rolling Stone expose: Goldman Sachs behind every market crash since 1920s
Posted by Philip Dru on 7/02/09 • Categorized as Economy

Goldman Sachs has played a crucial role in creating every market bubble since the 1920s — and has profited from not only the bubbles, but from the crash that followed as well, says a new expose in Rolling Stone magazine.

An article in the July 9-23 issue of the magazine, written by Matt Taibbi, lists five asset bubbles that the 140-year-old investment bank helped create — and one that Taibbi asserts the firm is currently working to make happen.

The five bubbles the article says Goldman was central to creating are the Wall Street stock bubble in the 1920s, which led to the Great Depression; the tech-stock bubble of the late 1990s, which ended in the 2001 recession; the housing bubble of the past decade, which resulted in the current economic crisis; the oil price run-up last summer, when oil shot up to $140 a barrel, likely helping tilt the entire world into recession; and what Taibbi describes as "rigging the bailout," when Goldman Sachs’ well-placed alumni inside the U.S. government engineered last fall’s bank bailout in such a way that the company profited massively.

Taibbi writes that Goldman Sachs has traditionally been a late arrival to market bubbles, getting in once others have started the trend, but, once in, the company quickly ramps up the bubble, predicts its bursting, and then hedges its bets so as to make money from the bubble crash.

The article, which is not yet officially available online, adds one more bubble to the list: the "global warming bubble," or specifically, the proposed cap-and-trade legislation that would allow companies to trade pollution credits on an open market.

Taibbi’s argument suggests the Wall Street bank may well want to turn climate change policy into yet another Wall Street casino game.

Because emissions caps will continually be reduced, Taibbi argues, pollution credits will constantly be growing in value, and Goldman Sachs wants in on the ground floor.

Taibbi writes: "The plan is (1) to get in on the ground floor of paradigm-shifting legislation, (2) make sure that they’re the profit-making slice of that paradigm and (3) make sure the slice is — a big slice. Goldman started pushing hard for cap-and-trade long ago, but things really ramped up last year when the firm spent $3.5 million to lobby climate issues."

On his blog, Taibbi has begun a discussion of the public reaction to his article. Some commenters have suggested that Taibbi’s understanding of high finance is limited, accusing him of misreading Goldman Sachs’ actions.

– Daniel Tencer

Raw Story

| Wednesday, July 1, 2009

I think thats the same link i started yesterday ;)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71564

synergy777
08-07-2009, 07:16 PM
my bad bro......great minds think a like hey

goldman sachs are the best investment bank in the world

do they have any links to the rothschilds.

kalabaster
08-07-2009, 07:33 PM
goldman sachs are the best investment bank in the world

investment bank no more, changed status last year so they could get some dosh from that mega bailout...very convenient...
its bank holding company now

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26827357/

real6
08-07-2009, 07:41 PM
my bad bro......great minds think a like hey

goldman sachs are the best investment bank in the world

do they have any links to the rothschilds.

You know it ;)


These families are connected through marriage at the very least. Most of them are. Get the book "Our Crowd" which reveals all of the intricate connections of American banking heirarchy and their connection to the Rothschild family.

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Crowd-Stephen-Birmingham/dp/0425075575


http://www.amazon.com/Our-Crowd-Jewish-Families-History/dp/0815604114


http://www.rothschild.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_M_Rothschild_&_Sons

Here we go...

Helen Sachs (Grandaughter of Goldman Sachs co-founder Joseph Sachs) married Nathan Straus Jr. (Grandson of Lazarus Straus who headed R.H. Macy & Co.)...

Nathan Straus Jr.'s first cousin (also grandson of Lazarus Straus) Roger William Straus Married Gladys Guggenheim (Grandson of Meyer Guggenheim)...

Meyer Guggenheim's daughter is Cora Guggenheim.

Cora Guggenheim married Louis F. Rothschild...

So you have the Rothschild-Guggenheim-Straus-Sachs connection.

Here is more...

Louis F. Rothschild was partners with Albert Loeb to form Albert Loeb & Co.

Louis F. Rothschild was the son of Frank Rothschild.

Hope that helps, but the book "Our Crowd" has a wealth of information regarding all of the marriages and connections.

Also...

Louis F. Rothschild's brother was Simon Rothschild who co-owned Abraham & Straus (now part of Federated Department Stores). More on Abraham and Straus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_%26_Straus

In addition, Simon Rothschild's son was Walter Nathan Rothschild.

Walter Nathan Rothschild married Carola Warberg.

Carola Warberg was the daughter of Felix Warberg and grandaughter of Jacob Schiff (Both partners of Kuhn, Loeb & Co.)

Now you have the Rothschild-Warberg-Schiff-Kunh-Loeb connection.

Also...

A later partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was Benjamin Buttenweiser...

He married Helen Lehman (Great grandaughter of Abraham Lehman who founded Lehman brothers)

Now you have the Kuhn-Loeb-Buttenweiser-Lehman connection.

synergy777
08-07-2009, 08:07 PM
You know it ;)


These families are connected through marriage at the very least. Most of them are. Get the book "Our Crowd" which reveals all of the intricate connections of American banking heirarchy and their connection to the Rothschild family.

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Crowd-Stephen-Birmingham/dp/0425075575


http://www.amazon.com/Our-Crowd-Jewish-Families-History/dp/0815604114


http://www.rothschild.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_M_Rothschild_&_Sons

Here we go...

Helen Sachs (Grandaughter of Goldman Sachs co-founder Joseph Sachs) married Nathan Straus Jr. (Grandson of Lazarus Straus who headed R.H. Macy & Co.)...

Nathan Straus Jr.'s first cousin (also grandson of Lazarus Straus) Roger William Straus Married Gladys Guggenheim (Grandson of Meyer Guggenheim)...

Meyer Guggenheim's daughter is Cora Guggenheim.

Cora Guggenheim married Louis F. Rothschild...

So you have the Rothschild-Guggenheim-Straus-Sachs connection.

Here is more...

Louis F. Rothschild was partners with Albert Loeb to form Albert Loeb & Co.

Louis F. Rothschild was the son of Frank Rothschild.

Hope that helps, but the book "Our Crowd" has a wealth of information regarding all of the marriages and connections.

Also...

Louis F. Rothschild's brother was Simon Rothschild who co-owned Abraham & Straus (now part of Federated Department Stores). More on Abraham and Straus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_%26_Straus

In addition, Simon Rothschild's son was Walter Nathan Rothschild.

Walter Nathan Rothschild married Carola Warberg.

Carola Warberg was the daughter of Felix Warberg and grandaughter of Jacob Schiff (Both partners of Kuhn, Loeb & Co.)

Now you have the Rothschild-Warberg-Schiff-Kunh-Loeb connection.

Also...

A later partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was Benjamin Buttenweiser...

He married Helen Lehman (Great grandaughter of Abraham Lehman who founded Lehman brothers)

Now you have the Kuhn-Loeb-Buttenweiser-Lehman connection.


ffs, rothschild, warburg, goldman sachs, thats real money right there, thats power.

add their connections to the fed reserve, they own america.

synergy777
08-07-2009, 08:08 PM
investment bank no more, changed status last year so they could get some dosh from that mega bailout...very convenient...
its bank holding company now

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26827357/

i know, that, after the lehman crash etc.

real6
08-07-2009, 08:28 PM
ffs, rothschild, warburg, goldman sachs, thats real money right there, thats power.

add their connections to the fed reserve, they own america.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=vCc&ei=aeRUSvbSD8-zlAfvgpnqCA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=connections+to+the+fed+reserve+and+rothschild&spell=1



Secrets of the federal reserve...

Click on link to read book.

CHAPTER FIVE - The House of Rothschild

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_fed06c.htm#CHAPTER%20FIVE


CHAPTER SIX - The London Connection

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_fed06c.htm#CHAPTER%20SIX






http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_fed06.htm

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

I wish to thank my former fellow members of the staff of the Library of Congress whose very kind assistance, cooperation and suggestions made the early versions of this book possible.



I also wish to thank the staffs of the Newberry Library, Chicago, the New York City Public Library, the Alderman Library of the University of Virginia, and the McCormick Library of Washington and Lee University, Lexington, Virginia, for their invaluable assistance in the completion of thirty years of further research for this definitive work on the Federal Reserve System.






ABOUT THE COVER




The cover reproduces the outline of the eagle from the red shield, the coat of arms of the city of Frankfurt, Germany, adapted by Mayer Amschel Bauer (1744-1812) who changed his name from Bauer to Rothschild ("Red Shield").



Rothschild added five golden arrows (right image) held in the eagle’s talons, signifying his five sons who operated the five banking houses of the international House of Rothschild:

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Frankfurt
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London
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Paris
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Vienna
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Naples





Table of Contents

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Forward
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Introduction - Jefferson's Opinion on the Constitutionality of the Bank

1.

Chapter - Jekyll Island
2.

Chapter - The Aldrich Plan
3.

Chapter - The Federal Reserve Act
4.

Chapter - The Federal Advisory Council
5.

Chapter - The House of Rothschild
6.

Chapter - The London Connection
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Chapter - The Hitler Connection
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Chapter - World War One
9.

Chapter - The Agricultural Depression
10.

Chapter - The Money Creators
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Chapter - Lord Montagu Norman
12.

Chapter - The Great Depression
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Chapter - The 1930's
14.

Chapter - Congressional Expose

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Addendum
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Appendix I
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Biographies
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Bibliography
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Index
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Frequently Asked Questions about the Federal Reserve System

real6
08-07-2009, 08:28 PM
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

Chart 1

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
Published 1976

Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks. Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
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| J. Henry Schroder

| Banking | Corp.
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Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
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Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
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Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
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| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
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| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
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Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
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______National City Bank N. Y. |
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| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
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| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
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| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
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Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
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James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
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Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
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J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
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Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
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James Stillman
William Rockefeller
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Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
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George F. Baker

Chart 2

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
- Published 1983

The J. Henry Schroder Banking Company chart encompasses the entire history of the twentieth century, embracing as it does the program (Belgium Relief Commission) which provisioned Germany from 1915-1918 and dissuaded Germany from seeking peace in 1916; financing Hitler in 1933 so as to make a Second World War possible; backing the Presidential campaign of Herbert Hoover ; and even at the present time, having two of its major executives of its subsidiary firm, Bechtel Corporation serving as Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State in the Reagan Administration.

The head of the Bank of England since 1973, Sir Gordon Richardson, Governor of the Bank of England (controlled by the House of Rothschild) was chairman of J. Henry Schroder Wagg and Company of London from 1963-72, and director of J. Henry Schroder,New York and Schroder Banking Corporation,New York,as well as Lloyd's Bank of London, and Rolls Royce. He maintains a residence on Sutton Place in New York City, and as head of "The London Connection," can be said to be the single most influential banker in the world.

J. Henry Schroder
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Baron Rudolph Von Schroder
Hamburg - 1858 - 1934
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Baron Bruno Von Schroder
Hamburg - 1867 - 1940
F. C. Tiarks |
1874-1952 |
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marr. Emma Franziska |
(Hamburg) Helmut B. Schroder
J. Henry Schroder 1902 |
Dir. Bank of England |
Dir. Anglo-Iranian |
Oil Company J. Henry Schroder Banking Company N.Y.
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J. Henry Schroder Trust Company N.Y.
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___________________|____________________
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Allen Dulles John Foster Dulles
Sullivan & Cromwell Sullivan & Cromwell
Director - CIA U. S. Secretary of State
Rockefeller Foundation

Prentiss Gray
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Belgian Relief Comm. Lord Airlie
Chief Marine Transportation -----------
US Food Administration WW I Chairman; Virgina Fortune
Manati Sugar Co. American & Ryan daughter of Otto Kahn
British Continental Corp. of Kuhn,Loeb Co.
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M. E. Rionda |
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Pres. Cuba Cane Sugar Co. |
Manati Sugar Co. many other |
sugar companies. _______|
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G. A. Zabriskie |
--------------- | Emile Francoui
Chmn U.S. Sugar Equalization | --------------
Board 1917-18; Pres Empire | Belgian Relief Comm. Kai
Biscuit Co., Columbia Baking | Ping Coal Mines, Tientsin
Co. , Southern Baking Co. | Railroad,Congo Copper, La
| Banque Nationale de Belgique
Suite 2000 42 Broadway | N. Y |
__________________________|_______________________ ____|_
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Edgar Richard Julius H. Barnes Herbert Hoover
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Belgium Relief Comm Belgium Relief Comm Chmn Belgium Relief Com
Amer Relief Comm Pres Grain Corp. U.S. Food Admin
U.S. Food Admin U.S. Food Admin Sec of Commerce 1924-28
1918-24, Hazeltine Corp. 1917-18, C.B Pitney Kaiping Coal Mines
| Bowes Corp, Manati Congo Copper, President
| Sugar Corp. U.S. 1928-32
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John Lowery Simpson
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Sacramento,Calif Belgium Relief |
Comm. U. S. Food Administration Baron Kurt Von Schroder
Prentiss Gray Co. J. Henry Schroder -----------------------
Trust, Schroder-Rockefeller, Chmn Schroder Banking Corp. J.H. Stein
Fin Comm, Bechtel International Bankhaus (Hitler's personal bank
Co. Bechtel Co. (Casper Weinberger account) served on board of all
Sec of Defense, George P. Schultz German subsidiaries of ITT . Bank
Sec of State (Reagan Admin). for International Settlements,
| SS Senior Group Leader,Himmler's
| Circle of Friends (Nazi Fund),
| Deutsche Reichsbank,president
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Schroder-Rockefeller & Co. , N.Y.
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Avery Rockefeller, J. Henry Schroder
Banking Corp., Bechtel Co., Bechtel
International Co. , Canadian Bechtel
Company. |
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Gordon Richardson
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Governor, Bank of England
1973-PRESENT C.B. of J. Henry Schroder N.Y.
Schroder Banking Co., New York, Lloyds Bank
Rolls Royce

Chart 3

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
- Published 1976

The David Rockefeller chart shows the link between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,Standard Oil of Indiana,General Motors and Allied Chemical Corportion (Eugene Meyer family) and Equitable Life (J. P. Morgan).

DAVID ROCKEFELLER
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Chairman of the Board
Chase Manhattan Corp
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Chase Manhattan Corp. |
Officer & Director Interlocks|---------------------
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Private Investment Co. for America Allied Chemicals Corp.
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Firestone Tire & Rubber Company General Motors
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Orion Multinational Services Ltd. Rockefeller Family & Associates
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ASARCO. Inc Chrysler Corp.
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Southern Peru Copper Corp. Intl' Basic Economy Corp.
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Industrial Minerva Mexico S.A. R.H. Macy & Co.
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Continental Corp. Selected Risk Investments S.A.
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Honeywell Inc. Omega Fund, Inc.
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Northwest Airlines, Inc. Squibb Corporation
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Northwestern Bell Telephone Co. Olin Foundation
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Minnesota Mining & Mfg Co (3M) Mutual Benefit Life Ins. Co. of NJ
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American Express Co. AT & T
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Hewlett Packard Pacific Northwestern Bell Co.
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FMC Corporation BeachviLime Ltd.
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Utah Intl' Inc. Eveleth Expansion Company
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Exxon Corporation Fidelity Union Bancorporation
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International Nickel/Canada Cypress Woods Corporation
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Federated Capital Corporation Intl' Minerals & Chemical Corp.
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Equitable Life Assurance Soc U.S. Burlington Industries
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Federated Dept Stores Wachovia Corporation
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General Electric Jefferson Pilot Corporation
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Scott Paper Co. R. J. Reynolds Industries Inc.
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American Petroleum Institute United States Steel Corp.
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Richardson Merril Inc. Metropolitan Life Insurance Co.
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May Department Stores Co. Norton-Simon Inc.
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Sperry Rand Corporation Stone-Webster Inc.
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San Salvador Development Company Standard Oil of Indiana

Chart 4

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
- Published 1976

This chart shows the interlocks between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York J. Henry Schroder Banking Corp., J. Henry Schroder Trust Co., Rockefeller Center, Inc., Equitable Life Assurance Society ( J.P. Morgan), and the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.

Alan Pifer, President
Carnegie Corporation
of New York
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Carnegie Corporation
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Rockefeller Center, Inc J. Henry Schroder Trust Company
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The Cabot Corporation Paul Revere Investors, Inc.
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Federal Reserve Bank of Boston Qualpeco, Inc.
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Owens Corning Fiberglas
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New England Telephone Co.
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Fisher Scientific Company
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Mellon National Corporation
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Equitable Life Assurance Society
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Twentieth Century Fox Corporation
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J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation

Chart 5

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
- Published 1976

This chart shows the link between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Brown Brothers Harriman,Sun Life Assurance Co. (N.M. Rothschild and Sons), and the Rockefeller Foundation.

Maurice F. Granville
Chairman of The Board
Texaco Incorporated
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Texaco Officer & Director Interlocks ---------------- Liggett & Myers, Inc.
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L Arabian American Oil Company St John d'el Ray Mining Co. Ltd.
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N Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. National Steel Corporation
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O Brown Harriman & Intl' Banks Ltd. Massey-Ferguson Ltd.
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American Express Mutual Life Insurance Co.
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N. American Express Intl' Banking Corp. Mass Mutual Income Investors Inc.
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Anaconda United Services Life Ins. Co.
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O Rockefeller Foundation Fairchild Industries
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H Owens-Corning Fiberglas Blount, Inc.
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C National City Bank (Cleveland) William Wrigley Jr. Co
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I Sun Life Assurance Co. National Blvd. Bank of Chicago
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D General Reinsurance Lykes Youngstown Corporation
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General Electric (NBC) Inmount Corporation


** Source: Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence. Staff Report,Committee on Banking,Currency and Housing, House of Representatives, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, August 1976.

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real6
08-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Accounting for the Rothschild Wealth and Influence
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...thschild03.htm

Im curious what people think about this?

And also about the other families that control or have control of the money markets, media, etc!!!

Accounting for the Rothschild Wealth and Influence


Morton (1962) noted that the Rothschild wealth was estimated at over $6 billion US in 1850. Not a significant amount in today’s dollars; however, consider the potential future value compounded over 147 years!

Taking $6 billion (and assuming no erosion of the wealth base) and compounding that figure at various returns on investment (a conservative range of 4% to 8%) would suggest the following net worth of the Rothschild family enterprise:

$1.9 trillion US (@ 4%)
$7.8 trillion US (@ 5%)
$31.5 trillion US (@ 6%)
$125,189.1 trillion US (@ 7%)
$491,409.0 trillion US (@ 8%)

To give these figures some perspective consider these benchmarks:

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A little of $300 billion US buys every ounce of gold in every central bank in the world (see John Kutyn’s estimate http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest/kutyn111597.html).
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U.S. M3 money supply August 1997 was $5.2 trillion
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U.S. debt is currently $5.4 trillion.
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U.S. GDP (1997; 2nd Q.) is $8.03 trillion.
*

George Soros’ empire is worth an estimated $20 billion.

We shall never have a full accounting of their wealth. All we can go on is Morton’s (1962) comment that their wealth is "ineffable as always." Even our conservative estimates suggest a family with staggering wealth and thus influence. In a world awash in debt and unsustainable fiat currencies subject to implosion, the power of gold and the preference of the Rothschilds to gold cannot be easily ignored.


In 2005, $6,000,000,000.00 from 1850 is worth:
$149,106,382,978.72 using the Consumer Price Index
$115,649,484,536.08 using the GDP deflator
$1,143,272,727,272.73 using the unskilled wage
$2,294,105,866,183.17 using the nominal GDP per capita
$29,266,640,625,000.00 using the relative share of GDP








http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

By Fritz Springmeier
Excerpt - Bloodlines of the Illuminati
8-12-7


CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD --connections to JWs, Mormons, and Judaism

It has been said all roads lead to Rome. For this book, it could be said all paths of investigation lead to the Rothschilds. Charles T. Russell, in a 1891 letter to Baron (Lord) Rothschild, mailed from Palestine, outlined possible courses of action that could be taken to establish the Jews in Palestine. Russell's letters praised the Rothschild's money which established Jewish colonies in Palestine. Russell writes Rothschild, "What is needed here, therefore, next to water and cleanliness, is a good government which will protect the poor from the ravenous and the wealthy. Banking institutions on sound bases, and doing business honorably, are also greatly needed " Russell continues, "May the God of Jacob direct you, my dear Sir, and all interested with you in the deliverance and prosperity of Israel, and blessed will they be who, to any extent, yield themselves as his servants in fulfilling his will as predicted."(14)

When the Mormon Church needed financing in the late 19th century, they went to Kuhn, Loeb Co.15 To explain the Rothschild's control of Kuhn, Loeb Co. here is some background information. The method that the House of Rothschild used to gain influence, was the same that Royalty had used for centuries, marriage. The Rothschild children, girls and boys, have had their spouses chosen on the basis of alliances that would benefit the House of Rothschild, but since consolidating world power they generally have married cousins these last two centuries.'16

Jacob Schiff grew up in the house that the Rothschild's had at 148 Judengasse, Frankfurt. Jacob Schiff came to the United States with Rothschild capital and took over control of a small jewish banking concern founded by two Cincinnati dry goods merchants Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb. He even married Soloman's daughter. In 1885, Loeb retired, and Schiff ran the Kuhn, Loeb Co. for the Rothschilds until 1920 when he died.17 During Russell's and Brigham Young's day, Lord Rothschild was considered the "lay leader of world Jewry."18

Edmund Rothschild was President of the Jewish Colonization Assoc,19 which was a major Zionist group. Amselm Rothschild indicated that his grandfather Amschel Mayer Rothschild had insisted in Clause 15 of his will to his children, "may they and their descendants remain constantly true to their ancestral Jewish faith."(20) However, the will has been secret and there is no way of knowing what it says. The Rothschilds have not remained true to the Orthodox faith. If this was actually what Clause 15 said then something is amiss. The Jewish world has showered the Rothschilds with praises, "The Rothschilds govern a Christian world. Not a cabinet moves without their advice. They stretch their hand, with equal ease, from Petersburg to Vienna, from Vienna to Paris, from Paris to London, from London to Washington. Baron Rothschild, the head of the house, is the true king of Judah, the prince of the captivity, the Messiah so long looked for by this extraordinary people... .The lion of the tribe of Judah, Baron Rothschild, possesses more real force than David--more wisdom than Solomon." (21) The Prieure de Sion-the Elders of Sion22 also relates to the Rothschilds who are reported to serve on a jewish council of Elders of Sion.23 The Rothschilds have "helped" the Jewish people the Rothschild's own way. For those who admire stingyness, the Rothschilds will be greatly looked up to. For instance, the extent of James Rothschild's charity in France to poor Jews was 5 francs (the equivalent of $1). Their dynasty has destroyed honest Jews along with Christians. Today, few dare criticize the Rothschilds.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to secret societies

The Rothschilds had played a major role in the Bavarian Illuminati, (25) and it is known that a least one of the sons of Amsel was a member. As the reader remembers, Amsel placed his sons in the major European capitals, where they each set up the principal banking houses. By their own secret intelligence service and their own news network they could outmanouver any European government. (26) The large amounts of voluminous correspondence by Rothschild couriers attracted attention, (27) but no one ever stopped their personal intelligence and mail services. After the Bavarian illuminati were exposed, the central occult power over the European secret societies shifted to Carbonarism a.k.a. the Alta Vendita,(28) led by another powerful Rothschild, Karl Rothschild,29 son of Amschel. In 1818, Karl participated in a secret document that was sent out to the head-quarters of Masonry from the Alta Vendita. The Masons were quite distressed when a copy of this was lost, and offered rewards to anyone who could return the lost copy. It was originally written in Italian. Its title translates ,,Permanent Instructions, or Practical Code of Rules; Guide for the Heads of the Highest Grades of Masonry."(30) The Masonic reference book 10,000 Famous Freemasons, Vol. 4, p.74, indicates two other sons of Amschel were Masons, James Meyer Rothschild, and his brother Nathan Meyer Rothschild. James Rothschild in Paris was a 33 degree Scottish Rite Mason, and his brother Nathan in London was a member of the Lodge of Emulation. And Jewish Freemason Katz indicates Solomon Meir Rothschild, a third member of the five brothers, was initiated into Freemasonry on June 14, 1809.(31) The Rothschilds became powerful within Freemasonry. We find the Saint-Simonians, the occult religious millenialist forerunners of communism, praising Baron de Rothschild in their magazine Le Globe, "There is no one today who better represents the triumph of equality and work in the nineteenth century than M. le Baron de Rothschild... .Was this Jew born a millionaire? No, he was born poor, and if only you knew what genius, patience, and hard work were required to construct that European edifice called the House of Rothschild, you would admire rather than insult it."

Lionel de Rothschild (the de was added by the French Rothschilds) was involved with the first communist Internationale. The Mason Mazzini who helped start communism praised Rothschild, "Rothschild could be King of France if he so desired."32 Adoiphe Cremieux, was a french Jewish Mason (see chap. 1.4 for his credentials). The Rothschilds gave at least £ i ,000 to Cremieux to go to Damascus with Salomon Munk, and Sir Moses Montefiore to win the release of Jews imprisoned there, and to convince the Turkish Sultan to declare the charges of ritual murder false.33

According to the three Jewish authors of Dope, Inc. the B'nai B'rith was a spin-off of the Order of Zion and was organized as a "covert intelligence front" for the House of Rothschild. It is highly probable that the B'nai B'rith was used as a Rothschild intelligence cover.

The Rothschilds are prominent in the Bilderbergers too. The Rothschilds were closely related to the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR). Although many people today would not view the CFR as a secret society it was originally set up as part of a secret society and it was kept secret for many years, in spite of its awesome power. Carroll Quigley, professor of International Relations at the Jesuit Georgetown University, exposed the Round Table Group with his book Tragedy and Hope.(34) The Rothschilds supported Rhodes to form De Beers. (35) Later, Rhodes made seven wills which established a secret society modelled after the Jesuits and Masons to help bring in a One-World- Government centered upon Britain, and the Rhodes Scholarships.36

The inner group was established in Mar. 1891 and consisted of Rhodes, Stead, Lord Esher (Brett), and 33* Mason Alfred Milner.(33bb) A secondary circle of "potential members of the Circle of Initiates" consisted of the Jew Lord Balfour, Sir Harry Johnson, Lord Rothschild, Lord Grey and others. Initially, Lord Rothschild was part of the inner group of Rhode's secret society, but was replaced by his son-in-law Lord Rosebury who wasn't as conspicuous.37 The Fabian Socialists dominated the staff at Oxford when the Rhodes Scholars began arriving. These scholars then received indoctrination and preparation to become part of an international socialist New World Order.(38) The Round Table Group developed from the inner executive circle of Rhode's secret society. The outer circle was established after the start of the 20th century. The Round Table Group was extended after W.W. I by organizing a front organization the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The Council of Foreign Relations was the American part of this front. The inner circle continues to direct the outer circle and its two front organizations RIIA and CFR. The CER in turn set up a number of fronts including the Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR)


CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--management of the Catholic and Czars' wealth and the capture of the Orthodox Church's wealth.

Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcasticly say "Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope...Order has at last been re-established."39 The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican's wealth. The Jewish Ency., Vol. 2, p.497states, ,,It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure." Researcher Eustice Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823.(40) Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system. The great wealth of the Russian Czars was entrusted to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild's Bank of England, and $80 million in the Rothschild's Paris bank. The Rothschilds financed the Russian Revolution which confiscated vast portions of the Orthodox Church's wealth. They have been able to prevent (due to their power) the legitimate heirs of the Czars fortune to withdraw a penny of the millions deposited in a variety of their banks. The Mountbattans, who are related to the Rothschilds, led the court battles to prevent the claimants from withdrawing any of the fortune. In other words, the money they invested in the Russian Revolution, was not only paid back directly by the Bolshevists in millions of dollar of gold, but by grabbing the hugh deposits of the Czars' wealth, the Rothschilds gained what is now worth over $50 Billions.(41)


CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER SATANISM & WITCHCRAFT

Chapter 2.11 gives the names of a Witchcraft Council of 13 which is under Rothschild control and in turn issue orders to various groups. One of the purest form of Satanism can be traced to the Jewish Sabbatain sect and its Frankist spinoff. The leaders of this up to the Rothschilds were:

Sabbatai Zevi (1626-1676)

Nathan of Gaza (16??-?)

Jacob Frank (1726-1791)

The Rothschilds

Three connections between Satanism, evil, and money.

Money naturally attracts itself to evil. For instance, if a woman prostitutes herself she may receive a great sum of money, but who will pay her for keeping her virginity or her dignity? If you are a hit man a large amount of money is yours if you kill your target, who will pay you if you would miss your target?

Second, evil men believe in where there is a will there is a way, and they are willing to sell their souls for their God money. They will employ evil to gain money.

While most people are quite aware of these last two connections, a third may likely have escaped their attention. Thirdly, the principle group of men who cranked up International Banking were Satanists from the beginning. These Satanists now are the ones who run the Federal Reserve and are responsible for the creation of U.S. Federal Reserve notes. Just having total control over the supply of U.S. paper money almost gives them leverage over the world's finances, without mentioning they control the world bank. It is no accident then, that once they established world financial control, they would do all in their power to divide and conquer and destroy both the Christian and the Moslem faith in God. These powerful Bankers relate to faith in God as Cain related to his brother Abel. That they may be related to the Jewish people, does not mean they have the Jewish people's best interest at heart. Initially Sabbetai Zevi was rejected by many Jews. His sect gained momentum in second half of the seventeenth century in southeastern Poland.(42) In 1759-60, 500 Jewish Sabbateans ,,converted" to Christianity.43 In 1715, 109 of the 415 Jewish families in Frankfurt were engaged in moneylending. The rest were merchants of various kinds. The concepts that Satanism holds to were a natural shoe in to justify for many of these Jewish bankers the type of behavior they were engaged in." (44)

LONG-STORY SHORT

Many divisions and battles between religious elements in the world have been encouraged and supported by the Power's wealth. Unfortunately, many have been fooled into thinking that being devout and faithful to God is the source of religious fighting. In some areas of the world, Moslems, Christians, and others have gotten along fine for centuries. Religious tensions do spring to some degree from within the religions themselves, but the fuel to keep those fires burning and to light up conflicts often come from the Power's wealth. An obvious example is the Iran-Iraq war.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--CONTROL OVER W.W. I TREATY

When Germany fell, not only did Rothschild agents draft the treaty, prepare the idea of the League of Nations, but Max Rothschild was one of 11 men who took control over Bavaria. Max Rothschild was a Freemason in Lodge No. 11, Munich, Germany.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--connections to MI5, Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, CFR, et.al.

Victor Rothschild, who worked for J.P. Morgan & Co., and was an important part of MI5 (British Intelligence). Victor Rothschild was also a communist and member of the Apostles Club at Cambridge.45 Lord Rothschild was one of the original members of Rhode's Round Table group which developed into the CFR. It was the Rothschilds who had financed Cecil Rhodes, beginning in Africa. The Rothschilds' have several agents which their money got started and who still serve them well, the Morgans and the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were Marrano Jews. The original Rockefeller made his money selling narcotics, (they weren't illegal then). After acquiring a little capital he branched out in oil. But it was the Rothschild capital that made the Rockefeller's so powerful. "They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (railroads) and Andrew Carnegie Steel."(46)

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--Power within Christendom

The Rothschilds also wielded much influence and power not only in Secret Societies, but also in Christendom's churches. The Salvation Army under the suggestion of the Rothschilds adopted the Red Shield (Roth-red Schild-shield) for their logo. One history of the Rothschilds remarks, "The Rothschilds had rapidly propelled themselves into a position of immense financial power and political influence. They were an independent force in the life of Europe, accountable to no one and, to a large extent, reliant on no one. Popular lampoons depicted them as the real rulers of Christendom..."(47) Some of the Rothschilds have been involved in the campaign to loosen public morals. The first executive Secretary of the National Student Forum was John Rothschild. This National Student Forum changed its name like articles of clothing. Speaking about clothing, one of the aims of this Socialist group was to promote public nudity, and free love. This organization had the following constituent groups Radcliffe Liberal Club, Union Theological Seminary Contemporary Club, Yale Liberal Club"(48) to name just a few. A further development of this was the Youth Peace Federation which consisted of the League of Youth of Community Church, Methodist Epworth League, NY District, Young Judea, and Young People's Fellowship of St. Phillip's Parish49 to name a few. American religious men have ties to the Rothschilds especially through their various agents.

Harry Emerson Fosdick, who was Pastor of Rockefeller's church was also among the Presidents of the Rockefeller Foundation. John Foster Dulles, CFR, was chairman of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and married a Rockefeller, Janet Pomeroy Avery. Remember John Foster Dulles was an important Federal Council of Churches of Christ official. (See chap. 2.9) Every road leads back to the Rothschilds. There are more items than what have been mentioned above linking the Rothschilds to the various tenticles. Each of the various tenticles that conspiracy theorists have put forth,--the Jews, the Masons, the Intelligence Communities, the International Bankers, the Prieure de Sion, the Catholics, the Trilateral commission, the CFR, the New Age, the Cults-- each ties back to the Rothschild's power.

EXTENT OF ROTHSCHILD POWER

According to one source "it was estimated that they controlled half the wealth of the world."(50) The Federal Reserve Bank of New York was controlled by five banks which owned 53% of its stock. These five banks were controlled by Nathan M. Rothschild & Sons of London. Control over the U.S. Fed is basically control over the world's money. That fact alone shows how immense the Rothschild Power is. If one examines who has been appointed to head the Fed, and to run it, the connections of the "Federal" Reserve System to the Rothschilds can further be seen. Another private enterprise using the name Federal that the Rothschilds also direct is Federal Express. Any one else might be taken to court for making their businesses sound like their are government, not the Rothschilds. It is appropriate for them to appropriate the name of Federal, because by way of MI6 via the CIA they instruct the U.S. government. Senators are bought and paid off by their system, as investigators of the BCCI are discovering. The Rothschilds have been intimately involved in witchcraft and the Illuminati since its early known history. The Kaiser of Germany seems to refer to them when he said, "the magic powers of money as wielded by the Lord of Lucre are powers of Black Magic at its blackest."51

If only half of the wealth is controlled by the Rothschilds, it indicates that if they are to be part of the world's rulership, they must have allies.

ALLIES

The Rothschilds and Rockefellers are only two of thirteen controlling families of the Illuminati. (52) Two Jewish families that appear to be prominent are the Oppenheims and the Oppenheimers. A. Oppenheim was situated in Cologne. The Oppenheimers were early members of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Bund der Gerechten (League of the Just) was an illuminati front run mainly by Jews who were Satanists. This Bund financed in part by the Rothschilds paid the Satanist and Mason Karl Marx to write the Communist Manefesto. The Jew Gumpel Oppenheim was in the inner circle of the Bund. His relative Heinrich Oppenheim masterminded the communist revolution of 1848 in Germany. The Communist Party's official histories even accept the Bund as the predecessor of Communism.

The Oppenheimers apparently are close to the Rothschilds. J. Robert Oppenheimer of the CFR was exposed as a communist. Harry Oppenheimer, an international banker, is chairman of the Jewish De Beers world-wide diamond monopoly, and chairman of the Anglo-American Corp. Oppenheimers can be found in important financial positions in the U.S. They help run around 10 large foundations, including the Oppenheimer Haas Trust of NY for the care of needy Jewish children.

The Jewish Ency. Vol. 2, p. 496 indicates other Jewish families "adopted the Rothschild plan." These were the Lazards, Sterns, Speyers, and Seligmans. The Rothschild plan was to place family members in the 5 largest European capitals to coordinate their activities. One of Germany's largest magazines is the Stern, and Ernst Stern is second-in-command of the World Bank."(53) The Jewish families that established the Frankfurt Judenloge (this was the Masonic lodge the Rothschilds belonged to in Frankfurt) included the Adlers, Speyers, Reisses, Sichels, Ellisons, Hanaus, Geisenheimers, and Goldschmidts. Isaac Hildesheim, a Jew who changed his name to Justus Hiller is credited as being the founder of this Frankfurt lodge. Michael Hess, principal of the Reformed Jewish school Philanthropin was an important figure in the lodge too, as was Dr. Ludwig Baruch (later Borne) who joined in 1808. Most of these Frankfurt Jewish Freemasons engaged in commerce.(54) Those Freemasons from 1817-1842 were the leaders of the Frankfurt Jewish community.55 A gentile Mason in Frankfurt Johann Christian Ehrmann began warning the German people that the Frankfurt Jewish Masons wanted a world republic based on humanism. In 1816 he came out with a warning pamphlet Das Judenthum in der M[aurere]y (The Jews in Masonry). A powerful ally of the world's jewry can be seen beginning with men like Oliver Cromwell, who was considered a Mason.

Cromwell was financed by Jews, and helped the Jews gain power in England. Cromwell was willing to go along with the Jews, because he became convinced of British Israelism. Since the core of the conspiracy of power is Jewish, the attitude of those allied with it hinges on their attitude toward the Jewish people.

The religious idea that the British people are descended from the tribes of Israel doesn't automatically place people into the camp of the conspiracy. Some of the British-Israelites realize that the so called Jewish people in general have no claim over the promises of God. For that reason, they realize that it is not the Christian duty to bow and scrape at their every move. When Christians can be arrested in Israel and abused, and Christians will not even stand up for their own kind, we can see how much hold the idea of the "Chosen Race" theory has over Christendom. Some of the British Israelites such as the Mormons, the old New England wealthy families such as make up the Order, some Masons and New Agers, and the non-Jewish members of the Priuere de Sion are collaborating with the One-World-Power. The anglican church which is run by the Freemasons is strongly British Israelistic.

SORTING OUT THE VARIOUS IDENTITY GROUPS

In contrast, a hodge-podge of groups which are opposed to the conspiracy like some Neo-Nazi groups, and various Churches unrelated with them are also believers in British Israelism. These various groups are sometimes all lumped together as the "Identity" movement, which is misleading because of their vast differences. It is important to diferentiate between those groups that are trying to approach things from a Christian perspective and place themselves under the authority of God, and those who are setting themselves up under the New Order's authority, or under their own authority.

CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD- The Media

Eustice Mullins has published his research in his book Who Owns the TV Networks showing that the Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks, plus other aspects of the recording and mass media industry. It can be added that they control Reuters too. From other sources it appears CNN, which began as an independent challenge to the Jewish Network monopoly, ran into repeated trickery, and ended up part of the system. Money from B.C.C.I., (B.C.C.I. has been one of the New World Orders financial systems for doing its dirty business such as controlling Congressmen, and is involved with INSLA, the Iran-Contra Scandal, Centrust, and other recent scandals) which has tainted so many aspects of public power in the U.S. has also been behind CNN. Perhaps nothing dominates the life of some Americans as does the television. Americans sit themselves before the television set and simply absorb what it projects to them. On a day to day basis the biggest way the Rothschilds touch the lives of Americans are the three major networks which are under Rothschild direction. To illustrate this we will examine who run the networks. This list is not current, and no attempt was to provide that. The length of writing a book insures that some material will be dated anyway.

(end of exceprt)

http://whisleblower.googlepages.com/therothschildbloodline

real6
08-07-2009, 08:52 PM
i know, that, after the lehman crash etc.

Hey Synergy, check this link out i started last year.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21453&highlight=Buffett+world%27s+richest+man



Buffett world's richest man, Slim second: Forbes
Things like this always make me laugh. Bill Gates is the worlds richest man and Buffet is this and that and that person.....

Those people have nothing. How about all the Skieks and other people in the middle east that own billions. They make 100's of millions a day in their pocket off of oil. This is just so funny.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...64885820080305

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Warren Buffett, the famed U.S. investor who heads Berkshire Hathaway Inc, replaced his friend and Microsoft Corp founder Bill Gates as the richest man in the world, Forbes magazine said on Wednesday.

The magazine estimated Buffett's worth at $62 billion in its annual ranking of the world's wealthiest people.

Mexican telecoms tycoon Carlos Slim came in second with an estimated worth of $60 billion, pushing Gates to third place after 13 years of holding the No. 1 spot.

The magazine estimated Gates' worth at $58 billion.

Buffett's rise to No. 1 was particularly noteworthy, Forbes said, as it came at a time of great financial turmoil and as Buffett has begun to siphon off part of his fortune to charity.

"Even though he is giving away a piece of his fortune each year, the stock of Berkshire Hathaway, the source of Warren Buffet's wealth, has been rising very rapidly," Chief Executive of Forbes Magazines Steve Forbes said, noting Buffett's fortune climbed $10 billion in the last calendar year.

Buffett in June 2006 announced plans to give 85 percent of his fortune away, granting it to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and four family charities. Bill Gates serves on the board of directors of Berkshire Hathaway and is a long-time bridge buddy of Buffett's. Gates has also given a substantial amount of his fortune to the foundation.

Buffett, often called the Sage of Omaha, has been lauded among investors for his preference for investing in larger companies with easy-to-understand businesses, large or dominant market shares, consistent earnings, and strong management.


In the early 1960s, Buffett started to invest in Berkshire, then a struggling textile maker, and took it over in 1965. Since then, he has transformed it into a holding company for more than 50 companies, ranging from Benjamin Moore paint and Dairy Queen ice cream to Fruit of the Loom underwear and Ginsu knives.

Gates has held the No. 1 spot since 1995, when he unseated Yoshiaki Tsutsumi, a Japanese real estate tycoon. Tsutsumi fell off the billionaire's list last year after receiving a suspended prison sentence for falsifying financial statements and insider trading in 2005.

Slim, a former stock market trader, is known for buying up struggling, cheap firms and turning them into profitable cash cows. He built his fortune by privatizing former Mexican state telephone monopoly Telmex. America Movil, a Telmex spin-off, is now Slim's flagship business and Latin America's biggest mobile phone company.

KEEPING UP WITH THE RUSSIANS?

The collective net worth of the world's 1,125 billionaires soared to $4.4 trillion, the magazine said.

The list of billionaires has almost doubled in the past four years, Forbes said. There were 469 U.S. billionaires, worth a combined $1.6 trillion, while the 656 billionaires who live outside the United States are worth $2.8 trillion.

Russia came in second place as home to 87 billionaires and Moscow is now the world's billionaire center, the magazine said. The Russian capital is now home to more billionaires than New York City.

India, China and Turkey also saw large gains in numbers of billionaires.

The world's youngest billionaire is 23-year-old Mark Zuckerberg, founder of social networking Web site Facebook. The magazine estimated his worth at $1.5 billion and said he is the youngest self-made billionaire to ever appear in the Forbes billionaire rankings.


Recent turmoil in the financial markets has taken its toll on the list.

James Cayne, Chairman of investment bank Bear Stearns Cos; William Pulte, who founded U.S. home builder Pulte Homes Inc; and Howard Schultz, founder of coffee chain Starbucks all fell off the billionaire's list amid declines in their companies' stock prices.

The decline in the dollar, a trend that Buffett himself has been betting on since 2002, provided a boost to billionaires outside the United States, particularly because the Forbes list is tabulated in U.S. dollars.

The full list of billionaires is available at (http://www.forbes.com/billionaires).

(Editing by Michelle Nichols and Eric Walsh)

danceswithbunnies
08-07-2009, 10:12 PM
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but not onlyis goldman sachs one of the owners of the federal reserve...the "treasury secretary" paulson had been the former CEO of Goldman Sachs when they were cooking up all those shoddy damn derivatives..

He also, according to an eyewitness and testimony of a congressman THREATENED the congress flat out behind closed doors to get the bail outs.
FIRST QUARTER PROFITS for goldman was record breaking FOUR BILLION.

this is one of the biggest bank heists in the history of the country.

Add it up.

I am personally (AND IT IS NO WAY IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM THE OPINION OF THE BOARD OR OF DAVID ICKE OR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATE)
of the opinion that the owners of the federal reserve bank should be hunted down and eliminated.

They are the biggest threat to all life on this planet.

GOLDMAN SACHS CODE:
http://www.classicalcapital.com/Goldman_Codes.html

synergy777
09-07-2009, 01:49 PM
real, have you any pdf's, graphs/tables on the fed rerserve and the rothschilds, goldman sachs etc.

ownoiz
09-07-2009, 02:00 PM
ffs, rothschild, warburg, goldman sachs, thats real money right there, thats power.

add their connections to the fed reserve, they own america.

And it sure as f**k doesnt end there ;)

I give you Australian Liberal party LEADER Malcolm Turnbull...


Turnbull was born on 24 October 1954, to Bruce Turnbull and Coral Lansbury, who married the following year.[3] His mother was a radio actor, writer and academic, and a cousin of the British film and television actor Angela Lansbury.

In 1987, he established an investment banking firm, Whitlam Turnbull & Co Ltd in partnership with Neville Wran (former Labor Premier of New South Wales) and the former State Bank of NSW chief executive, Nicholas Whitlam (son of Gough Whitlam, former Labor Prime Minister of Australia). Whitlam parted company with the others in 1990, and, from then until 1997, when Turnbull moved to become a managing director and later a partner of Goldman Sachs, the firm operated as Turnbull & Partners Ltd. Turnbull was also chair of a large Australia Internet Service Provider, OzEmail (1994-99), a director of FTR Holdings Ltd (1995-2004), chair and managing director of Goldman Sachs Australia (1997-2001) and a partner with Goldman Sachs and Co (1998-2001).

In May 2002, Turnbull appeared before the HIH royal commission and was questioned on Goldman Sachs' involvement on the possible privatisation of one of the acquisitions of the collapsed insurance company. The Royal Commissioner's Report made no adverse findings against him or Goldman Sachs.

On 16 September 2008, following a second vote for the Liberal leadership, Turnbull was voted in as the parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Turnbull
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real6
09-07-2009, 03:22 PM
real, have you any pdf's, graphs/tables on the fed rerserve and the rothschilds, goldman sachs etc.

Yeah somewhere. I'll have to search for it. I used to have a folder with all kinda crazy PDF's. give me alittle while.

motleyhoo
10-07-2009, 05:15 AM
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but not onlyis goldman sachs one of the owners of the federal reserve...the "treasury secretary" paulson had been the former CEO of Goldman Sachs when they were cooking up all those shoddy damn derivatives..

He also, according to an eyewitness and testimony of a congressman THREATENED the congress flat out behind closed doors to get the bail outs.
FIRST QUARTER PROFITS for goldman was record breaking FOUR BILLION.



It's not just Paulson. Most of the leadership in both the Federal Reserve and the Treasury either worked at Goldman or worked for a company that was partnered with them. It is just one big crony network of thieves and robber barons. All of Wall Street is run the same way. All the people running things went to the same schools, same fraternities, and their families are all clannish in nature.

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synergy777
10-07-2009, 01:12 PM
Yeah somewhere. I'll have to search for it. I used to have a folder with all kinda crazy PDF's. give me alittle while.

nice 1 bro.

look forward to the info.

real6
10-07-2009, 11:11 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1052651420090710

LONDON (Reuters) - The owner of a website onto which a purportedly stolen Goldman Sachs Group Inc computer code was downloaded has declined to say whether or not other people accessed the code while it was on the site.

Roopinder Singh, who runs file storage website xp-dev.com, told Reuters in London on Friday that computer files show whether or not the valuable code -- which U.S. prosecutors have charged former Goldman employee Sergey Aleynikov with stealing -- was viewed by others, but he declined to say what they show due to the scale of the case.

According to Singh, accounts at xp-dev.com initially have a privacy setting that only lets the user see them. However, users can change that setting to allow other people to view files.

"Private is the default," he said. "You then have the option ... You can explicitly either share it (or keep it private)."

He declined to say what the settings on Aleynikov's account were.

Singh also said German authorities had taken hardware from the website on Monday, while the UK's Serious Organized Crime Agency visited his flat in south east London several hours later that evening. He said his website was down until Wednesday morning.

"On Monday afternoon the hard drives were seized -- German authorities took away the hard drives to do forensic work on them.

"I wasn't really (initially) told it was connected to the Goldman case," Singh said. "On Wednesday morning they came back to my place and I deleted the data."

The FBI in New York said earlier this week it had taken measures to prevent code being sent from the server in Germany.

"Working through our assistant legal attache in Frankfurt and with the authorities in Germany, the FBI has taken steps to ensure that the appropriated code was not distributed," FBI spokesman Jim Margolin said.

Singh said that he had previously had no connection with Aleynikov and that anyone could set up an account on the site.

Aleynikov's lawyer said on Friday that there was confusion over what was being said and written about the code.

The lawyer, Sabrina Shroff, said: "They talk about open source code and proprietary information as though it were the same thing."

Shroff said: "He (Aleynikov) has not said anything about sharing proprietary information. In fact he denies guilt. There is no guilt, and there is no harm to Goldman Sachs."

The purported theft of the code could cost Goldman Sachs "millions upon millions of dollars", a U.S. prosecutor, Joseph Facciponte, said at 39-year-old Aleynikov's initial court appearance in New York on Saturday. He was arrested on Friday night and interviewed by the FBI.

Goldman Sachs declined to comment while a Serious Organized Crime Agency spokesman was unable to comment.

(Additional reporting by Grant McCool and Steve Eder in New York, editing by Gerald E. McCormick)

real6
10-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Ex-Goldman Programmer Described Code Downloads to FBI (Update1)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a2GvteRoihQE

July 10 (Bloomberg) -- Sergey Aleynikov, the former Goldman Sachs Group Inc. computer programmer arrested last week for stealing software, told an FBI agent he uploaded proprietary code to an encrypted server he had used on “multiple occasions.”

Aleynikov, 39, told the agent about 1 a.m. on July 4 that he had logged into Goldman’s computers through remote access from his home and sent encrypted files to a repository server with the URL identifier svn.xp-dev.com, according to a copy of his FBI statement in court files in Manhattan federal court.

Xp-dev.com is run by London resident Roopinder Singh, who describes himself on a blog linked to the site as a trading systems developer working in London’s financial services industry. The site offers “subversion hosting,” letting users track current and previous versions of programming code and other documents.

“Everything happened all of a sudden,” Singh, 27, said today in an interview. The German Web hosting company for his site removed it July 6 without explanation, he said. That night, agents from the U.K.’s Serious Organised Crime Agency visited his home, telling him stolen data was being erased from the site’s servers. Two days later, they told him the incident was linked to Goldman. His site reappeared after a 45-hour outage.

‘Intellectual Property Theft’

“It turns out that some idiotic moron a user had uploaded data on to the service that he/she was not authorized to have,” Singh wrote to his customers in a blog posting yesterday, crossing out the words “some idiotic moron.” “This is your basic intellectual property theft case here.”

FBI spokesman Jim Margolin and Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for Acting U.S. Attorney Lev Dassin, declined to comment. A SOCA spokesman also declined to comment.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Facciponti said at Aleynikov’s arraignment July 4 that the alleged theft is the “most substantial” that Goldman Sachs can recall.

“The proprietary code, worth millions of dollars, lets the firm do “sophisticated, high-speed and high-volume trades on various stock and commodities markets,” prosecutors said in court documents. Facciponti said a person misusing the code might be able to “manipulate markets.”

On his personal blog, Singh wrote that he provided his service free and that any code that’s stored is kept safe and encrypted before being backed up every night “off-site.” The site now charges a fee for backups, and Aleynikov wasn’t a paying subscriber, Singh said today.

Systems Developer

Singh has worked as a trading systems developer for Dresdner Kleinwort, the investment bank now owned by Commerzbank AG, and Royal Bank of Scotland Plc since graduating college in 2005. He started the Web service in February 2008, and has about 30,000 users. He said he left RBS in May to work on it full time, didn’t know Aleynikov and never accessed the Goldman code.

Aleynikov, who holds dual U.S. and Russian citizenship, told the agent the files he sent to Singh’s server “have been not shared with any person or corporation” and that it “was not my intent be involved in any malicious action.”

Facciponti said at the arraignment that Aleynikov transferred the code to a computer server in Germany and that others may have had access to it, a claim that Aleynikov denied in his statement to the Federal Bureau of Investigation agent, Michael McSwain. The prosecutor said the U.S. was investigating whether other code was sent to the server.

Internet records indicate Singh’s Web site is in Bavaria, in southern Germany.

Other Instances

Aleynikov told McSwain he used the server on other instances.

“I have uploaded files to svn.xp-dev.com on multiple occasions over the last couple months,” Aleynikov said in the FBI statement. The phrase, “over the last couple months” is crossed out.

It was unclear if he used the server to store Goldman software or other code.

“The files that are proprietary information of Goldman Sachs has not been shared with any individual or corporation,” Aleynikov repeated near the conclusion of the three-page statement.

In the statement, Aleynikov laid out what had happened from the downloading of the files to their transfer to the server and his retrieval of them from it. He said that on June 5 he “created a tarball in an effort to collect open source work on Goldman Sachs server to which I had an account.”

Tarball Erased

A tar file, which is sometimes called a tarball, is a compressed file.

“I had previously worked on the files,” he said.

He said he encrypted the files, then erased the encryption software and the tarball.

“I then erased the bash history,” he said, referring to a method of recalling commands used in previous computer sessions.

Goldman security measures prevent such deletions, which tipped the firm off to his activities, prosecutors said.

Aleynikov said in his statement that he downloaded the Goldman software to his home computer, his laptop computer and his thumb drive.

“The reason I uploaded to svn.xp-dev.com was because it was not blocked by Goldman Sachs security policy,” Aleynikov wrote. The phrase, “not blocked by Goldman Sachs security policy,” was crossed out and he added: “I wanted to inspect the work later in a more usable environment.”

More Than Intended

Aleynikov said that he later opened the files to inspect them.

“At that point I realized that I downloaded more files than I intended,” he said.

Aleynikov, who lives in New Jersey, was arrested July 3 after arriving at Liberty International Airport in Newark. He was charged with stealing the trading software and is free on a $750,000 bond. He moved to North Caldwell, New Jersey, in June, according to database records.

Teza Technologies LLC, a Chicago-based firm co-founded by a former Citadel Investment Group LLC trader, said after his arrest that it had suspended Aleynikov, who started there on July 2. Aleynikov had told co-workers at Goldman that he was joining a new firm at triple his salary of $400,000 a year, according to the criminal complaint filed against him.

In a financial affidavit filed on July 7, Aleynikov said his salary at Teza Technology was $25,000 per month, or $300,000 annually, and that his New Jersey home is valued at $1.14 million and on sale for $550,000.

Michael DuVally, a spokesman for New York-based Goldman, declined to comment.

Aleynikov said Teza wasn’t involved. “I have signed an agreement with my new employer not to bring any unlicensed software,” he said. “I have not violated that agreement.”

Studied Math

Aleynikov studied applied mathematics at the Moscow Institute of Transportation Engineering before transferring to Rutgers University, where he received a bachelor’s degree in computer science in 1993 and a master’s of science degree, specializing in medical image processing and neural networks, in 1996, according to his profile on the social-networking site LinkedIn.

Before joining Goldman Sachs, he worked for about eight years at IDT Corp., the U.S. vendor of prepaid calling cards, where he led the team responsible for developing routing systems, according to the profile.

His profile on LinkedIn describes him as a vice president in equity strategy at Goldman Sachs and includes two recommendations from colleagues at the firm.

The case is U.S. v. Aleynikov, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan).