7/7 Was for Queen Elizabeth's Jubilee

[titan]

:)


http://papertrail.candutch.ca/images/__1_52_77_queen_e_post_card02.JPG

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2518697.0.Unique_monument_unveiled_to_ honour_77_bombing_victims.php

Families of the 52 people killed in the July 7 bombings marked the fourth anniversary of the atrocities by unveiling a commemorative plaque in central London yesterday

[curtaincat]

:)


http://papertrail.candutch.ca/images/__1_52_77_queen_e_post_card02.JPG

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2518697.0.Unique_monument_unveiled_to_ honour_77_bombing_victims.php

Families of the 52 people killed in the July 7 bombings marked the fourth anniversary of the atrocities by unveiling a commemorative plaque in central London yesterday

:eek: EEK! and freaked, it is being thrown in our faces , even more obviously than ever, omg. I commented on the 52, but never realised this 52 - 77 thing. shit!
thanks titan, you are "on the ball" and thanks to matt, too. :cool:

[titan]

:eek: EEK! and freaked, it is being thrown in our faces , even more obviously than ever, omg. I commented on the 52, but never realised this 52 - 77 thing. shit!
thanks titan, you are "on the ball" and thanks to matt, too. :cool:


you're welcome curtaincat. :)

[curtaincat]

you're welcome curtaincat. :)

titan, you should put this in the '7/7 London Terror Attack memorial unveiled' thread, in the latest news forum, it belongs there, it is too good to be lost and buried under other threads!

this is gold, is needs to be shared :)

[titan]

titan, you should put this in the '7/7 London Terror Attack memorial unveiled' thread, in the latest news forum, it belongs there, it is too good to be lost and buried under other threads!

this is gold, is needs to be shared :)

I did.

not a peep from anyone :) *shrugs* dunno


ETA - sorry I meant the BBC 77 debunking thread

[kingmonkey]

Yeah, they managed to kill exactly the right number of people with bombs :rolleyes: You gotta be fucking kidding me...

[oneup]

Yeah, they managed to kill exactly the right number of people with bombs :rolleyes: You gotta be fucking kidding me...

Exactly what I was going to say.
Pure coincidence if you ask me.

[lordofangels]

:)


http://papertrail.candutch.ca/images/__1_52_77_queen_e_post_card02.JPG

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2518697.0.Unique_monument_unveiled_to_ honour_77_bombing_victims.php

Families of the 52 people killed in the July 7 bombings marked the fourth anniversary of the atrocities by unveiling a commemorative plaque in central London yesterday


Thanks for posting this, that girl knows what she is talking about, will read somemore of her stuff, thanks for sharring...

[fishfingers]

Yeah, they managed to kill exactly the right number of people with bombs :rolleyes: You gotta be fucking kidding me...

Are they kidding?

:nope:

[titan]

There was a 'training' exercise on the day remember. Plus victims from the bus were taken into the BMA courtyard to 'die' by a fountain dedicated to sacrifice.

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Woodford%2C_James_(1893-1976)_Sculptor

[QUOTE7. The British Medical Association Memorial, in Tavistock Square, London. This work was produced in 1954. The central courtyard of the Tavistock Square building does in fact house two war memorials. The first, the Gates of Remembrance, or "Memorial Gates", were designed by Lutyens and commemorate the 574 members of the BMA who died in the First World War. These gates were dedicated by the Archbishop of Canterbury on the occasion of the official opening of BMA House in 1925. The gates were manufactured by the Birmingham Guild. The second is a fountain and surrounding statues which form a memorial to the medical men and women who died in the Second World War. This was designed by James Woodford and consists of a bronze fountain in the form of the staff of Asclepius, the Greek god of healing, surrounded by four Portland stone figures representing Sacrifice, Cure, Prevention and Aspiration QUOTE]

Diana hit the 13th pillar, are you going to say that was a fluke too?

Or how about World Trade Center 7 building that fell when no plane hit it - it is officially said that this was due to a critical column on the 13th floor collapsing - it then fell at 5.20:52 - the 'New' World Trade Center building which commenced in 2002 (Queen's Jubilee) has 52 floors - are you going to say that is a fluke too?

Or how about Leeds Town Hall? Where the Bombers were from .....this was opened by King George in '33 and has Twin Towers that are 52m high

is that a coincidence

or how about this....on the 6th of June - 66....The Queen, in 2002, stood a number 52 double decker bus for the first and only time in her life..

Would you like me to go on?

Anyone else that's interested can read the article provided.

[curtaincat]

You go girl, titan.

there is no such thing as coincidence.

People are reading!

ignore the trolls.

:)

[curtaincat]

and i knew the number 52 meant something, i posted that in the other thread and so did someone else into numerology, he got the 5 + 2 = 7, stuff , too.

you aint alone. lots on here know. :)

[zhenshanren]

Doubters of these ironic and coincidental events should bear i mind that the outcome of many of these events or numbers is due to the controlling factors in other dimensions. Remember that thigs can be seen clearly from another space and time.(time space)

You must step out of your conditioned mindset to understand things beyond that level.

Perhaps there truly are no coincidences.

[howie]

Queen Elizabeth II born 21 April (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_april)

April 21 is the 111th day of the year. There are 254 days remaining until the end of the year.


reverse that & you get 11/9

September 11 is the 254th day of the year. There are 111 days remaining until the end of the year.

[tannah]

and i knew the number 52 meant something, i posted that in the other thread and so did someone else into numerology, he got the 5 + 2 = 7, stuff , too.

you aint alone. lots on here know. :)

Don't forget the 52 and the reverse 25 = 77 as well!

It's a long story but there is a "secret" in the word EVE that this 77 is related to. I'd been doing a lot of work on stuff to do with frequencies. I'd noticed the "sensitive angle" was the 45 degree angle....portal/doorway stuff. So I noticed the word EVE had two 45 degree angles at the letter V. Decided to dissect it there:

E = 5
V = 22
E = 5

5 2/2 5
E..V..E

Without speiling on this thing relates to the angles of a star of David. It's a point of power, which can be used for illusion or reality. It's how we use this power, not that the power itself is good or evil.

There is a few clues on how this point of power is protected by those who know about it. The Pharisees did it as well as the Catholics, when they banned what they called the "intervalis diablos".

Eve stands for the feminine principle. Come 2012 it is time for a new vibrational birth. She's pregnant at the moment.:D And humanity, collectively, decides what kind of new era we will be living in. It doesn't have to be "better", it could be "worse". Although the signs are that we have the age of Aquarius and the fact that we are growing in compassion as a race, in our favour.

[titan]

You go girl, titan.

there is no such thing as coincidence.

People are reading!

ignore the trolls.

:)

Thanks!

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

And to finish, if you've read my article: Taking on the Aha Men, http://www.oneballradio.com/content/oneballradio/taking_a_ha_men you will see the A-ha video I linked. I think this is also telling us who planned the WTC sacrifices as this has 3,13 and 7/7 in. So that would be the 3 towers including World Trade Center 7 collapsing due to a critical column on the 13th floor, and the building collapsing at 5.20:52 - 7/7.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe0gi_aha-take-on-me_life

Aha Video here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe0gi_aha-take-on-me_life

[siatd]

Yeah, and, like, there were, like, 7 buildings in the WTC, and they blew up building 7.

7/7. 7. 7.

Like, totally.




Just in case you didn't understand, I am being thoroughly sarcastic. This numerological inquiry is for people who have no understanding of logic or evidence. Numbers are just symbols for human-invented concepts. They have no bearing on reality.

For a bunch of people who claim to be freethinkers you don't half accept bullshit easily.

[tannah]

Yeah, and, like, there were, like, 7 buildings in the WTC, and they blew up building 7.

7/7. 7. 7.

Like, totally.




Just in case you didn't understand, I am being thoroughly sarcastic. This numerological inquiry is for people who have no understanding of logic or evidence. Numbers are just symbols for human-invented concepts. They have no bearing on reality.

For a bunch of people who claim to be freethinkers you don't half accept bullshit easily.

Logic and evidence, oh rightey ho. After you man, and please explain your logic and evidence without any symbology or numbers, and let's have your painted reality please.:D

Here's an Einstein quote you may not be overly familair with. Do check it out for validity of course:

‘The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.’


How do you think scientists quantify anything? If nothing ever repeated itself in nature, ya couldn't quanitify JS.:-) Frequencies occur in cyclic fashion, things cycle clockwise and ant-clockwise. There are now top scientists who predict the universe is holographic, and some even suggest the universe to be participatory and waking itself up through us. How do you think that waking process isn't related to how we perceive symbols and number? It's up to every mind to use the ingredients that nature supplies. Someone may see 11:11 all the time, and with that as a guide can bring undestanding to the mind. They are in a participatory relationship with the universe. This is why intuition/creativity/imagination trumps logic. Logic can make you an unperceiving fool if you bring the wrong attitude to it. Quality and quantity go hand in hand. You revere quantity and then deny number and symbology. Throw your worn out textbook outta the window if it's led to your attitude, and start again dear chap.:D

Or, go and be a psuedo-skeptic somewhere else man.

[titan]

Yeah, and, like, there were, like, 7 buildings in the WTC, and they blew up building 7.

7/7. 7. 7.

Like, totally.




Just in case you didn't understand, I am being thoroughly sarcastic. This numerological inquiry is for people who have no understanding of logic or evidence. Numbers are just symbols for human-invented concepts. They have no bearing on reality.

For a bunch of people who claim to be freethinkers you don't half accept bullshit easily.

:)

There were 3 buildings only - sorry.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

The building collapsed completely at 5:20 p.m., when a critical column on the 13th floor buckled and triggered structural failure throughout.

The new 7 World Trade Center construction began in 2002 and was completed in 2006. It is 52 stories tall

Diana hit the 13th pillar.

2002 - Queens Golden Jubilee

[titan]

http://wbcc-online.com/auction/auct79am8.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

On 9 November 2008, Imam Samudra, Amrozi Nurhasyim and Mukhlas Ghufron were executed by firing squad on the island prison of Nusakambangan at 00:15 Local time (17:15 GMT). [2]

9/11 (as written in UK)

[julieray]

It does make you wonder how many people there were who were actually in on it. At least we have highly intelligent people on these forums who can point out both inconsistencies in official reports and the numerology behind it all which certainly does all link in. I have put that site in my favourites and will certainly be paying it a visit - thank you!:)

[siatd]

:)

There were 3 buildings only - sorry.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

There were 7 World Trade Center buildings in the complex in New York. Hence 'building 7'.

The building collapsed completely at 5:20 p.m., when a critical column on the 13th floor buckled and triggered structural failure throughout.

The new 7 World Trade Center construction began in 2002 and was completed in 2006. It is 52 stories tall

Diana hit the 13th pillar.

2002 - Queens Golden Jubilee

The 13th pillar claim about WTC 7 came from NIST, who've proven themselves unreliable on every aspect of the destruction of the WTC buildings. However, in your desperation to find numerological connections you've completely overlooked the importance of sources of information, and just take any source as reliable if it says something that fits in with your aim to find these connections.

[titan]

There were 7 World Trade Center buildings in the complex in New York. Hence 'building 7'.



The 13th pillar claim about WTC 7 came from NIST, who've proven themselves unreliable on every aspect of the destruction of the WTC buildings. However, in your desperation to find numerological connections you've completely overlooked the importance of sources of information, and just take any source as reliable if it says something that fits in with your aim to find these connections.

Only 3 buildings 'fell' down.

What is important is the 'facts' that are in the public domain. Which is a column on the 13th floor of World Trade Center 7 building.

I see you ignore the fact that the New World Trade Center building commenced in 2002 - the Queens Jubilee and has 52 floors.

[siatd]

Logic and evidence, oh rightey ho. After you man, and please explain your logic and evidence without any symbology or numbers, and let's have your painted reality please.:D

This is impossible - all explanations take place in the realm of symbols, of some kind of language.

How do you think scientists quantify anything?

Glorified guesswork and assumption, most of the time.

If nothing ever repeated itself in nature, ya couldn't quanitify JS.:-)

Nothing ever does repeat 'itself' in nature. Take a look at Hume's problem of induction if you don't believe me.

Frequencies occur in cyclic fashion, things cycle clockwise and ant-clockwise. There are now top scientists who predict the universe is holographic, and some even suggest the universe to be participatory and waking itself up through us. How do you think that waking process isn't related to how we perceive symbols and number?

The world is the world. Symbols and numbers are artificial, arbitrary human inventions.

It's up to every mind to use the ingredients that nature supplies. Someone may see 11:11 all the time, and with that as a guide can bring undestanding to the mind. They are in a participatory relationship with the universe. This is why intuition/creativity/imagination trumps logic.

With regard to what? Nothing trumps anything unless you already have a set of rules by which to make such an assessment.

Logic can make you an unperceiving fool if you bring the wrong attitude to it.

Of course it can, look at logical positivism. Nonetheless, 'the limits of my language are the limits of my world' - numbers deal in discrete entities, I'd suggest there are no discrete entities anywhere but in the metaphysical realm of language, numbers, emblems and so on.

Quality and quantity go hand in hand. You revere quantity and then deny number and symbology. Throw your worn out textbook outta the window if it's led to your attitude, and start again dear chap.:D

I do not revere quantity.

Or, go and be a psuedo-skeptic somewhere else man.

Save your patronising labels for other people. Trust me, the last thing you want to do is assume I'm more ignorant than you.

[siatd]

Only 3 buildings 'fell' down.

Stop splitting hairs, there were seven buildings were there not?

What is important is the 'facts' that are in the public domain. Which is a column on the 13th floor of World Trade Center 7 building.

What's important is that in rejecting propaganda we don't throw out ALL standards and make relativism the starting point of our inquiry.

I see you ignore the fact that the New World Trade Center building commenced in 2002 - the Queens Jubilee and has 52 floors.

I'm sure lots of other things happened in 2002 also. There are only so many years in a century. 56 people were killed by the terrorist attacks of 7/7.

This is absolute tosh.

[titan]

LOL!

Busted :D

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-08-21-wtc-nist_N.htm

Report: Fire, not bombs, leveled WTC 7 building

GAITHERSBURG, Maryland (AP) — Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.
The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan in New York. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics long have argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.

Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a modern skyscraper.

"The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," said Dr. Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the NIST team.

Investigators also concluded that the collapse of the nearby towers broke the city water main, leaving the sprinkler system in the bottom half of the building without water.


The building has been the subject of a wide range of conspiracy theories for the last seven years, partly because the collapse occurred about seven hours after the twin towers came down. That fueled suspicion that someone intentionally blew up the building in a controlled demolition.

Critics like Mike Berger of the group 9/11 Truth said he wasn't buying the government's explanation.

"Their explanation simply isn't sufficient. We're being lied to," he said, arguing that there is other evidence suggesting explosives were used on the building.

Sunder said his team investigated the possibility that an explosion inside the building brought it down, but found there was no large boom or other noise that would have occurred with such a detonation. Investigators also created a giant computer model of the collapse, based partly on news footage from CBS News, that they say shows that internal column failure brought down the building.

Investigators also ruled out the possibility that the collapse was caused by fires from a substantial amount of diesel fuel that was stored in the building, most of it for generators for the city's emergency operations command center.

The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure.

"When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain," said Sunder.

The NIST investigators issued more than a dozen building recommendations as a result of their inquiry, most of which repeat earlier recommendations from their investigation into the collapse of the two large towers.

In both instances, investigators concluded that extreme heat caused some steel beams to lose strength, causing further failures throughout the buildings until the entire structure succumbed.

The recommendations include building skyscrapers with stronger connections and framing systems to resist the effects of thermal expansion, and structural systems designed to prevent damage to one part of a building from spreading to other parts.

No one was killed in the collapse of building 7 because it had been fully evacuated. A new, slightly taller World Trade Center 7 opened in 2006.

A spokesman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government's work.

"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokesman Dara McQuillan.

In discussing the findings, the investigator Sunder acknowledged that some may still not be convinced, but insisted the science behind their findings is "incredibly conclusive."

"The public should really recognize the science is really behind what we have said," he said, adding: "The obvious stares you in the face."

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[titan]

Stop splitting hairs, there were seven buildings were there not?



What's important is that in rejecting propaganda we don't throw out ALL standards and make relativism the starting point of our inquiry.



I'm sure lots of other things happened in 2002 also. There are only so many years in a century. 56 people were killed by the terrorist attacks of 7/7.

This is absolute tosh.

52 people were killed. This is the acknowledged death count. Or is there 56 pillars at the newly opened memorial by Prince Charles this week?

Deary me.

[siatd]

52 people were killed. This is the acknowledged death count. Or is there 56 pillars at the newly opened memorial by Prince Charles this week?

Deary me.

The four alleged suicide bombers were also killed. Just because most media coverage ignores their deaths in a grotesque display of callous revisionism doesn't mean they did not die.

By saying only 52 people were killed you are advancing a false version of events more akin to the Home Office's story. But rather than accept that there is no connection between the Queen's coronation in 52 and the number of people killed on 7/7 you would rather ignore the deaths of four young men.

If you're happy with that then so be it. But I'm not, so I'm going to object to it. Find this 'rude' if you must.

[curtaincat]

52 people were killed. This is the acknowledged death count. Or is there 56 pillars at the newly opened memorial by Prince Charles this week?

Deary me.

I dont talk to trolls like you are kind enough to...

He is ignoring the fact that the "royals" ignored the 4 "bomber guys", which is why they put it as 52 killed as, they have the power to make it tie in with the 1952 year, and the 77.

He is just trying to get you off your original point. Stick to your true facts, i will just ignore this guy, however "rude" he becomes, trolls are something i never feed, i will only talk to you on this thread of yours, because i respect this thread!

[titan]

I dont talk to trolls like you are kind enough to...

He is ignoring the fact that the "royals" ignored the 4 "bomber guys", which is why they put it as 52 killed as, they have the power to make it tie in with the 1952 year, and the 77.

He is just trying to get you off your original point. Stick to your true facts, i will just ignore this guy, however "rude" he becomes, trolls are something i never feed, i will only talk to you on this thread of yours, because i respect this thread!

Hello curtaincat ((hug)) what a lovely person you are!

yes 52. See they placed the bogus 'John Hill' at Kells too. You could not get a more symbolic place to be in Ireland. 11 52 - they're taking the piss

See:

The Synod of Kells took place in AD 1152, under the presidency of Cardinal Paparoni, and continued the process begun at the Synod of Rathbreasail of reforming the Irish church. The sessions were divided between the abbeys of Kells and Mellifont, and in later times the synod has been called the Synod of Kells-Mellifont and the Synod of Kells/Mellifont.

The diocesan system was further reorganised, with the number of metropolitan provinces being increased from two to four, by raising the dioceses of Dublin and Tuam to archdioceses. The four provinces of Armagh, Cashel, Dublin and Tuam corresponded to the contemporary boundaries of the provinces of Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connacht respectively.

The diocesan structure established by the synod largely survived until the sixteenth century, and still forms the basis of the territorial structure of both the Roman Catholic church and the Protestant Church of Ireland, with many of the sees now merged.


It had to be 4 'bombers' curtaincat, as this brings the number to 11 - which is very important to the Illuminati.

[size_of_light]

Here's an interesting one:

She was coronated on June 2nd, 1953. (2/6/53)
52 years, 1 month, 5 days) later: 52 people murdered.

She became Queen on 6th February, 1952. (6/2/52)
53 years, 5 months, 1 day later, 52 people were murdered.

So much symmetry it burns the eyes.

[curtaincat]

http://wbcc-online.com/auction/auct79am8.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

On 9 November 2008, Imam Samudra, Amrozi Nurhasyim and Mukhlas Ghufron were executed by firing squad on the island prison of Nusakambangan at 00:15 Local time (17:15 GMT). [2]

9/11 (as written in UK)

Yes, I remembered that time and date, and two days later 11/11 was Remembrance Day, and everyone was sooking about the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, and nobody had a clue. I was so pissed off that day, that nobody got the 9/11 execution or the 11/11 shit. .... nobody was awake at all and i was alone in my pissed off feelings.

It is In OUR FACE and nobody wants to know. At least , some of us know and doing stuff.

[curtaincat]

Hello curtaincat ((hug)) what a lovely person you are!

yes 52. See they placed the bogus 'John Hill' at Kells too. You could not get a more symbolic place to be in Ireland. 11 52 - they're taking the piss

See:

The Synod of Kells took place in AD 1152, under the presidency of Cardinal Paparoni, and continued the process begun at the Synod of Rathbreasail of reforming the Irish church. The sessions were divided between the abbeys of Kells and Mellifont, and in later times the synod has been called the Synod of Kells-Mellifont and the Synod of Kells/Mellifont.

The diocesan system was further reorganised, with the number of metropolitan provinces being increased from two to four, by raising the dioceses of Dublin and Tuam to archdioceses. The four provinces of Armagh, Cashel, Dublin and Tuam corresponded to the contemporary boundaries of the provinces of Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connacht respectively.

The diocesan structure established by the synod largely survived until the sixteenth century, and still forms the basis of the territorial structure of both the Roman Catholic church and the Protestant Church of Ireland, with many of the sees now merged.


It had to be 4 'bombers' curtaincat, as this brings the number to 11 - which is very important to the Illuminati.

Yeah, i see what you mean, exactly...

ps, thanks for the compliment and the hug , ditto

[curtaincat]

Here's an interesting one:

She was coronated on June 2nd, 1953. (2/6/53)
52 years, 1 month, 5 days) later: 52 people murdered.

She became Queen on 6th February, 1952. (6/2/52)
53 years, 5 months, 1 day later, 52 people were murdered.

So much symmetry it burns the eyes.


OMFG, titan will hug you for this , too :)

[size_of_light]

OMFG, titan will hug you for this , too :)

Even clearer when you express it this way:

6/2/52 = 53/5/1
2/6/53 = 52/1/5

Just a coincidence ;)

[titan]

Here's an interesting one:

She was coronated on June 2nd, 1953. (2/6/53)
52 years, 1 month, 5 days) later: 52 people murdered.

She became Queen on 6th February, 1952. (6/2/52)
53 years, 5 months, 1 day later, 52 people were murdered.

So much symmetry it burns the eyes.

:) hi, yes they are seriously ritualistic - everything they do. Things like this just reinforces the fact that the conspiracy is being orchestrated from the lower forth dimension via the Elite reptilian bloodlines.


Berlin Olympic Stadium - connects to 77 - 2012 - and of course the Jubilees

http://www.berlin.de/stadttouren/360/olympiastadion/index.en.php?detail=f

The Maifeld (May Field) is a field of grass to the west of the Olympic Stadium. The symmetrical field was designed by Werner March as a location for mass gatherings with up to 250,000 people. The field is surrounded by a tribune with 44,000 standing-only places and 4,500 seats. During the 1936 Olympic Games, polo tournaments and several mass gatherings of Berlin school children took place here. From 1945-1991, the grounds were used by the British troops for sporting events as well as for their annual birthday parade in honor of the Queen. To the west, the edge of the field is marked by the monumental bell tower, which stands 77 meters high on a stepped wall. The tower and the Olympic bell were both damaged in World War II. While the bell received a new location at the southern entrance to the Olympic Stadium, the tower itself was demolished in1947 (due to the danger of collapse) and rebuilt in 1963 together with the hall of remembrance ("Langemarckhalle"). The lookout platform at the top of the tower offers a wonderful panoramic view of the city, the Grunewald Forest and the neighboring Havel Lakes.




And the front of the stadium - twin towers

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H-bdWSf5LBA/SfOIRGjcs4I/AAAAAAAABR8/YwdYGSRlmOw/s400/Berlin_Olympiastadion_Main_Entrance_Olympic_Rings_ dec_2004b.jpg

The Bell Tower - 77 feet

http://www.fraissi.net/BicycleChronicles/germany/berlin%20olympic%20stadium.JPG

[frase]

Sorry..Not buying this one...
So planting the bombs...they would have also known EXACtly ho wmany people were going to die....Nah!
They would have had no idea how many people would die.
Sorry this is bollocks and discredits others who are talking about FACTS and anomalies re 7/7.
If we want to be taken seriously I suggest we drop this crap.

[tannah]

Nothing ever does repeat 'itself' in nature. Take a look at Hume's problem of induction if you don't believe me.


I'm aware of the induction problem. That doesn't disqualify what I said next about frequencies, for example.



The world is the world. Symbols and numbers are artificial, arbitrary human inventions.

Yes I hear about this kind of seperation a lot. I strongly disagree. We didn't get these things from somewhere "outside" the universe. We may think we arbitrarily invented music scales, until we analyse the scales many birds use to sing. Things are not as seperate as some wish to believe. We are the universe, and the universe is us. There is no Us and then some outside reality called the universe. If something happens the universe has been the cause of it.



With regard to what? Nothing trumps anything unless you already have a set of rules by which to make such an assessment.

The sacred gift frees the servant.



Of course it can, look at logical positivism. Nonetheless, 'the limits of my language are the limits of my world' - numbers deal in discrete entities, I'd suggest there are no discrete entities anywhere but in the metaphysical realm of language, numbers, emblems and so on.

Yes, and taking this back to the OP, it is quite clear that the people using certain numbers and symbols are well aware of the fact they are doing it. So the OP is right in bringing these dealings to light. You have even highlighted the fact that numbers can be tweaked on occasion in order to fall into the desired sequence.



Save your patronising labels for other people. Trust me, the last thing you want to do is assume I'm more ignorant than you.

Well I think you started with the patronizing actually. I am a very ignorant person in the scheme of things, you'll find me honest but not very good competition. However, I merely responded to your own ignorant remarks in this case.

[titan]

Sorry..Not buying this one...
So planting the bombs...they would have also known EXACtly ho wmany people were going to die....Nah!
They would have had no idea how many people would die.
Sorry this is bollocks and discredits others who are talking about FACTS and anomalies re 7/7.
If we want to be taken seriously I suggest we drop this crap.

Training exercise on the day. '1000' person strong allegedly. If they can blow up people on trains, they can kill people whenever they want. Who would know?

No, they killed 52 for the beginning of the Queens reign.

[curtaincat]

I'm aware of the induction problem. That doesn't disqualify what I said next about frequencies, for example.





Yes I hear about this kind of seperation a lot. I strongly disagree. We didn't get these things from somewhere "outside" the universe. We may think we arbitrarily invented music scales, until we analyse the scales many birds use to sing. Things are not as seperate as some wish to believe. We are the universe, and the universe is us. There is no Us and then some outside reality called the universe. If something happens the universe has been the cause of it.





The sacred gift frees the servant.




Yes, and taking this back to the OP, it is quite clear that the people using certain numbers and symbols are well aware of the fact they are doing it. So the OP is right in bringing these dealings to light. You have even highlighted the fact that numbers can be tweaked on occasion in order to fall into the desired sequence.




Well I think you started with the patronizing actually. I am a very ignorant person in the scheme of things, you'll find me honest but not very good competition. However, I merely responded to your own ignorant remarks in this case.

tannah, siatd is a troll, dont feed it, it will starve from lack of attention...

[kingmonkey]

No, they killed 52 for the beginning of the Queens reign.

How did they do it then? How did they gaurantee it would be bang on 52? Which it wasn't anyway, because if you say the gvmnt did it, you have to take into account them murdering the alleged terrorists as well. So the actual number is 56.

[titan]

6th July 2005 - London 'wins' Olympic bid.

Next day is 7/7

Queens Diamond Jubilee is in 2012 as is the Olympics. XXX 30th - Bus blown up - number 30.


The 'Windsor' Tower, February 2005

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-337777/Madrid-skyscraper-gutted-blaze.html

The biggest fire in Madrid's history gutted a 32-storey skyscraper in the Spanish capital's financial district yesterday, causing no injuries, but the tower stayed upright despite fears of collapse

At its peak, the fire lit up the Madrid sky like a huge torch

The blazing tower evoked memories for many Spaniards of the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center in New York.

Madrid is vying with four other cities to host the 2012 Olympic Games.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123419045021563711.html

The city government blamed fireworks from Monday night's Lunar New Year celebrations for a massive fire that engulfed a 44-story tower in the brand-new complex that also houses the iconic headquarters of China Central Television

Flames and occasional explosions leapt high into the sky as black smoke poured from the 520-foot tower,

[titan]

How did they do it then? How did they gaurantee it would be bang on 52? Which it wasn't anyway, because if you say the gvmnt did it, you have to take into account them murdering the alleged terrorists as well. So the actual number is 56.

Easy for them

As I said, it had to be 4 'bombers'.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/charles-mourns-with-families-at-77-memorial-1736212.html

Relatives praised the simplicity of the memorial. Costing nearly £1m, it has 52 columns grouped together in four clusters

Yesterday's service to officially open the London memorial – a series of 11ft stainless steel columns

Prince Charles bows his head after laying a wreath at the memorial

What next? Are you going to claim the Illuminati - the Royal Bloodlines, are not into the Occult?

I can assure you they are.

[kingmonkey]

Easy for them

How is it?


Relatives praised the simplicity of the memorial. Costing nearly £1m, it has 52 columns grouped together in four clusters


Of course it had 52 columns, there were 52 victims!!! And I'm pretty sure there in four clusters to represent the four bombers. How is someone purposefully and openly designing something even remotely "occult"?


Yesterday's service to officially open the London memorial – a series of 11ft stainless steel columns


11? What's that got to do with it?

Prince Charles bows his head after laying a wreath at the memorial

Well that's what people normally do, what's your point?


What next? Are you going to claim the Illuminati - the Royal Bloodlines, are not into the Occult?


That may eb so, But it doesn't mean it's true.


I can assure you they are.

I'm not sure you can.

[titan]

http://blog.loaz.com/media/blogs/timwang/2008-Beijing-Olympic-Closing-Ceremony-Stadium-Bus-Transformer.jpg

05:19 in on the Official Olympic Handover video - there is 13 windows on the bus stop - please note the hidden (face) figure under the Umbrella.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKhltoLsoeU

13:53 in on the same video, please see the 13 dancers hanging off the side of the double decker bus, holding Umbrellas with the hypnotic spiral.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Resident_evil_the_umbrella_chronicles_uscover.jpg

Knight Templar Cross - the Crown

[size_of_light]

How did they do it then? How did they gaurantee it would be bang on 52? Which it wasn't anyway, because if you say the gvmnt did it, you have to take into account them murdering the alleged terrorists as well. So the actual number is 56.

I'd imagine they would have run highly accurate computer simulations to calculate the number of fatalities these bombs were going to produce, occult implications or not.

It wouldn't then be difficult to adjust that number down slightly to guarantee 52 fatalities wasn't exceeded. Easy to then allow a few more of the seriously wounded to die amidst the chaos or behind closed doors to hit the right mark.

And/or, could it be possible that once they had all their occult dates and numbers aligned correctly and invoked the appropriate demon, it then became a certainty that he'd show up and guarantee the right number of deaths?

If powerful occult practitioners really did have the ability to invoke demons and receive reliable information about future events, then not much about any of that seems too implausible to me.

Perhaps 52 innocent victims was the target, and the extra 4 terrorists, being complicit in the ritual itself (albeit under the impression that they were participating in a training exercise) were irrelevant to that.

[titan]

How is it?



Of course it had 52 columns, there were 52 victims!!! And I'm pretty sure there in four clusters to represent the four bombers. How is someone purposefully and openly designing something even remotely "occult"?



11? What's that got to do with it?



Well that's what people normally do, what's your point?



That may eb so, But it doesn't mean it's true.




I'm not sure you can.


Yes there were 52 'victims' in reality there was 56.

Prince Charles has everything to do with it. It's his mamma after all.

Have you strayed into the David Icke forum by mistake.

what do you think this is? The Jenny Bond Royalty Are Fabulous forum? :rolleyes:

[curtaincat]

Yes there were 52 'victims' in reality there was 56.

Prince Charles has everything to do with it. It's his mamma after all.

Have you strayed into the David Icke forum by mistake.

what do you think this is? The Jenny Bond Royalty Are Fabulous forum? :rolleyes:

some people like monkeyking diss everything, lol, that is their job, i think...

[kingmonkey]

O.K, there's no point is there really? Good luck with your delusions.

[titan]

O.K, there's no point is there really? Good luck with your delusions.

Good luck to you too. You failed though when you acknowledged that there were indeed '52' victims.

[kingmonkey]

Good luck to you too. You failed though when you acknowledged that there were indeed '52' victims.


Really?

I said, if you believe the gvmnt did it (which you do), there were 56 victims (including patsy bombers), which makes your whole 52 numerology theory wrong at the simplest level, wether you belive in the occult or numerology or not.

[titan]

Really?

I said, if you believe the gvmnt did it (which you do), there were 56 victims (including patsy bombers), which makes your whole 52 numerology theory wrong at the simplest level, wether you belive in the occult or numerology or not.

You said:
Of course it had 52 columns, there were 52 victims!!!

Which is exactly my point

[kingmonkey]

You said:
Of course it had 52 columns, there were 52 victims!!!

Which is exactly my point

So your point is that 52 people died, and they erected a monument with 52 columns?! :confused: So where's the mystery in that? I'm confused, and I should be, because none of this makes any sense.

[titan]

So your point is that 52 people died, and they erected a monument with 52 columns?! :confused: So where's the mystery in that? I'm confused, and I should be, because none of this makes any sense.

*shrugs* Oh well, not much I can do about that.

[dancing_with_durga]

One point about the date is that it was the day after London was awarded the 2012 Olympics. If, as the official narrative runs, the 'terrorists' wanted to harm London, committing the act the day before would have made awarding the games to London very difficult (it was decided by a secret vote of the delegates remember) - a far more effective political act.

One possible explanation is that it was a blood sacrifice to the games by the same people that have produced the logo that spells zion... http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4528/logo2128.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/i/logo2128.jpg/)
.

[kingmonkey]

One point about the date is that it was the day after London was awarded the 2012 Olympics. If, as the official narrative runs, the 'terrorists' wanted to harm London, committing the act the day before would have made awarding the games to London very difficult (it was decided by a secret vote of the delegates remember) - a far more effective political act.

The deadline for the decision was the 9th, so in effect they did do it before. And that's a very good reason for it not being inside job.

[dancing_with_durga]

The deadline for the decision was the 9th, so in effect they did do it before. And that's a very good reason for it not being inside job.

Not sure what you mean by that. From the BBC site:

The mood of the political world goes from jubilation to one of shock and horror within 24 hours, as London wins the right to host the 2012 Olympics one day and suffers Britain's worst terrorist attack the next.

"It's not often in this job that you punch the air and do a little jig and embrace the person next to you," Mr Blair says after the Olympic announcement on 6 July.

Within 24 hours, four explosions occur on the Underground and on a bus.

[kingmonkey]

Sorry, yeah, It doesn't make sense.

My point was they wouldn't have known when the games were being awarded.

[branjo]

52 seats on a bus and 22 standing if memory serves me correctly. Maybe they all had a seat each, maybe they were all unconscious before hand.

Its been a long time before I was on a UK bus, infact the last time I think its cost me 90p how much is it now?

Anyhoo, I know these people hold numbers to a high degree but for me its a stretch, sorry. I mean wouldn't 1977 have been a better time to associate the numbers to.

Plenty here to choose from, (Wiki 1977)

January

* January 1 – The Australian state of Queensland abolishes death duties.
* January 3 – Apple Computer Inc. is incorporated.
* January 9 – Super Bowl XI: The Oakland Raiders defeat the Minnesota Vikings 32-14 at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.

* January 10 – Mount Nyiragongo erupts in eastern Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo).

Full 1977 calendar
Jan.10: Ocean Park, Hong Kong
Jan.20 Jimmy Carter 39th U.S. President.

* January 10 – Ocean Park opens in Hong Kong.
* January 15 – Kälvesta air disaster: A Swedish airliner crashes into a residential area of Stockholm, killing all 22 on board.
* January 17 – Gary Gilmore is executed by firing squad in Utah (the first execution after the reintroduction of the death penalty in the U.S.).
* January 18 – Scientists identify a previously unknown bacterium as the cause of the mysterious Legionnaires' disease.
* January 18 – Australia's worst railway disaster at Granville, near Sydney, leaves 83 people dead.
* January 18 – SFR Yugoslavia Prime minister, Džemal Bijedić, his wife and 6 others are killed in a plane crash in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
* January 19 – U.S. President Gerald Ford pardons Iva Toguri D'Aquino (aka "Tokyo Rose").
* January 19 – Snow falls in Miami, Florida (despite its ordinarily tropical climate) for the only time in its history. Snowfall has occurred farther south in the United States only on the high mountains of the state of Hawaii.
* January 20 – Jimmy Carter succeeds Gerald Ford as the 39th President of the United States.
* January 21 – U.S. President Jimmy Carter pardons Vietnam War draft evaders.
* January 23 – Roots begins its phenomenally successful run on ABC.
* January 24 – The Massacre of Atocha occurs during the Spanish transition to democracy.
* January 27 – Record company EMI sacks the controversial United Kingdom punk rock group the Sex Pistols.
* January 28 – The Great Lakes Blizzard of 1977 hits Buffalo, New York.
* January 31 – The Centre Georges Pompidou is officially opened by French President Valéry Giscard d'Estaing.

[edit] February

* February 4 – Fleetwood Mac's Grammy-winning album Rumours is released.
* February 7 – The Soviet Union launches Soyuz 24 (Viktor Gorbatko, Yuri Glazkov) to dock with the Salyut 5 space station.
* February 11 – A 20.2-kg (44-lb.-9-oz.) lobster is caught off Nova Scotia (the heaviest known crustacean).
* February 18 – The space shuttle Enterprise test vehicle goes on its maiden "flight" while sitting on top of a Boeing 747, at Edwards Air Force Base in California.
* February 18 – Prog 1 of 2000 AD, is launched (issue dated 26 February 1977).

Enterprise flies atop Boeing 747 over U.S.

* February 28 – Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom opens the New Zealand Parliament.

[edit] March

* March 4 – The 1977 Bucharest Earthquake kills 1,500.
* March 5 – Formula One driver Tom Pryce dies after colliding with a track marshal at the South African Grand Prix in Kyalami.
* March 8 – The Australian parliament is opened by Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia.
* March 9 – Approximately a dozen armed Hanafi Muslims take over 3 buildings in Washington, D.C., killing 1 person and taking more than 130 hostages. The hostage situation ends 2 days later.
* March 12 – The Centenary Test between Australia and England begins at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
* March 15 – Tenor Luciano Pavarotti and the PBS opera series Live from the Met both make their American television debuts. Pavarotti stars in a complete production of Puccini's La Boheme.
* March 26 – Focus on the Family is founded by Dr. James Dobson.
* March 27 – Tenerife disaster: A collision between KLM and PanAm Boeing 747s at Tenerife, Canary Islands, kills 583 (the worst single aviation accident on record).

[edit] April

* April 1 – Hay-on-Wye declares independence as a publicity stunt.
* April 4 – Grundy, Virginia experienced a major flood that made around $15 million in damages to 228 residential and commercial structures.To date the town is still recovering.
* April 7 – German Federal Prosecutor Siegfried Buback and his driver are shot by 2 Red Army Faction members while waiting at a red light near his home in Karlsruhe. The "Ulrike Meinhof Commando" later claims responsibility.
* April 7 – The Toronto Blue Jays play their first-ever game of baseball against the Chicago White Sox.

April 11: UK Silver Jubilee (25 red buses painted silver).

* April 8 – The punk band The Clash's debut album The Clash (album) is released in the UK on CBS Records.

* April 11 – London Transport's Silver Jubilee buses are launched.
* April 22 – Optical fiber is first used to carry live telephone traffic.
* April 27 – The Guatemala City air disaster kills 28 people.
* April 28 – A Stuttgart court sentences Red Army Faction members Andreas Baader, Gudrun Ensslin and Jan-Carl Raspe to life imprisonment.

[edit] May

* May 1 – The Taksim Square massacre in Istanbul results in 34 deaths, hundreds of injuries.
* May 3 – The HMS Invincible is launched at Barrow-in-Furness by Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom.
* May 14 – The 1977 IAS Cargo Boeing 707 airplane crash in Lusaka, Zambia kills all 6 on board.
* May 14 – In Milan, Italy, during a far-left demonstration, a hooded person shoots at the police, killing a policeman, Antonio Custra. The scene is photographed and the picture [1] of the hooded man shooting in the middle of the street appears in many magazines around the world.
* May 17 – The Likud Party, led by Menachem Begin, wins the elections in Israel.
* May 17 – Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom commences her 1977 Silver Jubilee tour in Glasgow.
* May 23 – Scientists report using bacteria in a lab to make insulin.
* May 23 – Moluccan terrorists take over a school in Bovensmilde, northern Netherlands (105 hostages), and a passenger train on the Bovensmilde-Assen route nearby (90 hostages) at the same time. On June 11, Dutch Royal Marines storm the train; 6 terrorists and 2 hostages are killed.
* May 25 – Star Wars opens in cinemas and subsequently becomes the then-highest grossing film of all time.
* May 26 – George Willig climbs the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
* May 27 – Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom opens the new Air Terminal Building at Edinburgh Airport.
* May 27 – The 1977 Aeroflot Ilyushin 62 airplane crash in Cuba kills 69 people.
* May 28 – The Beverly Hills Supper Club in Southgate, Kentucky is engulfed in fire, killing 165 inside.
* May 29 – Indianapolis 500: A.J. Foyt becomes the first driver to win a (to date) record 4 times.

[edit] June
June
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30

* June 5 – A coup takes place in the Seychelles.
* June 5 – The first Apple II computers go on sale.
* June 5 – The Portland Trail Blazers defeat the Philadelphia 76ers 109–107 to win the NBA finals 4–2. Bill Walton is named series MVP.
* June 6–9 – Jubilee celebrations are held in the United Kingdom to celebrate 25 years of Elizabeth II's reign.
* June 7 – After campaigning by Anita Bryant and her anti-gay "Save Our Children" crusade, Miami-Dade County, Florida voters overwhelmingly vote to repeal the county's gay rights ordinance.
* June 10 – James Earl Ray escapes from Brushy Mountain State Prison in Petros, Tennessee (he is recaptured on June 13).
* June 15 – Spain has its first democratic elections, after 41 years under the Franco regime.
* June 16 – Oracle Corporation is incorporated in Redwood Shores, California as Software Development Laboratories (SDL) by Larry Ellison, Bob Miner and Ed Oates.
* June 20 – The Supreme Court of the United States rules that states are not required to spend Medicaid funds on elective abortions.
* June 20 – Anglia Television broadcasts the fake documentary Alternative 3, which enters into the conspiracy theory canon.
* June 25 – American Roy Sullivan is struck by lightning for the 7th time.
* June 26 – Elvis Presley performs his last-ever concert in Indianapolis, Indiana's Market Square Arena.
* June 26 – Some 200,000 protesters march through the streets of San Francisco, protesting Anita Bryant's anti-gay remarks and the murder of Robert Hillsborough.

[edit] July
July
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31

* July 1 – CKO (a now-defunct Canadian all news radio network) begins broadcasting.
* July 5 – General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq overthrows Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, the first elected Prime Minister of Pakistan.
* July 13 – The New York City blackout of 1977 lasts for 25 hours, resulting in looting and other disorder.
* July 15 – Anti-drug campaigner Donald Mackay disappears near Griffith, New South Wales (presumed murdered).
* July 19 to July 20 – Flooding in Johnstown, PA, caused by massive rainfall, kills over 75 people and causes billions in damage.
* July 22 – The purged Chinese Communist leader Deng Xiaoping is restored to power 9 months after the "Gang of Four" was expelled from power in a coup d'état.
* July 24 – Led Zeppelin plays their last U.S. concert in Oakland, CA at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum. A brawl erupts between Led Zeppelin's crew and promoter Bill Graham's staff, resulting in criminal assault charges for several of Led Zeppelin's entourage including drummer John Bonham.
* July 28 – The first oil through the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System reaches Valdez, Alaska.
* July 30 – Left-wing German terrorists Susanne Albrecht[2], Brigitte Mohnhaupt[3] and a third person assassinate Jürgen Ponto[4], chairman of the Dresdner Bank in Oberursel, West Germany.

[edit] August
Aug.16 Elvis Presley dies. His funeral in Memphis attracts 75,000 fans.

* August 3 – United States Senate hearings on MKULTRA are held.
* August 3 – The Tandy Corporation TRS-80 Model I computer is announced at a press conference.
* August 4 – U.S. President Jimmy Carter signs legislation creating the United States Department of Energy.
* August 9 – The military-controlled government of Uruguay announces that it will return the nation to civilian rule through general elections in 1981 for a President and Congress.
* August 10 – David Berkowitz is captured in Yonkers, New York, after over a year of murders in New York City as the Son Of Sam.
* August 12 – The NASA Space Shuttle, named Enterprise, makes its first test free-flight from the back of a Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA).
* August 15 – The Big Ear, a radio telescope operated by Ohio State University as part of the SETI project, receives a radio signal from deep space; the event is named the "WOW!" signal for a notation made by a volunteer on the project.
* August 15 – Herbert Kappler escapes from the Caelian Hill military hospital in Rome.
* August 16 – Elvis Presley, the king of rock and roll dies from a drug overdose in his home in Graceland at age 42. 75,000 fans lined the streets of Memphis for this funeral.[1]
* August 20 – Voyager program: The United States launches the Voyager 2 spacecraft.

[edit] September
September
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30

* September 3 – The Commodore PET computer is first sold.
* September 5 – Voyager program: Voyager 1 is launched after a brief delay.
* September 5 – German Autumn: Employers Association President Hanns-Martin Schleyer is kidnapped in Cologne, West Germany. The kidnappers kill 3 escorting police officers and his chauffeur. They demand the release of Red Army Faction (RAF) prisoners.
* September 6 – Steve Biko suffers a massive head injury in police custody in South Africa, later dying.
* September 7 – Treaties between Panama and the United States on the status of the Panama Canal are signed. The U.S. agrees to transfer control of the canal to Panama at the end of the 20th century.
* September 8 – INTERPOL issues a resolution against the piracy of video tapes and other material, which is still cited in warnings on opening pre-credits of videocassettes and DVDs today.
* September 10 – Hamida Djandoubi's is the last guillotine execution in France.
* September 18 – Courageous (U.S.), skippered by Ted Turner, sweeps Australia (Australia) in the 24th America's Cup.
* September 19 – Under pressure from the Carter Administration, President Anastasio Somoza Debayle lifts the state of siege in Nicaragua.
* September 21 – A nuclear non-proliferation pact is signed by 15 countries, including the United States and the Soviet Union.
* September 28 – The Porsche 928 debuts at the Geneva Auto Convention.
* September 29 – The modern Food Stamp Program begins when the Food Stamp Act of 1977 is enacted.

[edit] October

* October 1 – Pelé plays his final professional football game as a member of the New York Cosmos.
* October 13 – German Autumn: Four Palestinians hijack a Lufthansa Airlines flight to Somalia and demand the release of 11 Red Army Faction members (see Lufthansa Flight 181).
* October 14 – The Atari 2600 game system is released.
* October 14 – Anita Bryant is famously pied by four gay rights activists during a press conference in Des Moines, Iowa. This event resulted in her political fallout from anti-gay activism.
* October 17–18 – German Autumn: GSG 9 troopers storm a hijacked Lufthansa passenger plane in Mogadishu, Somalia; 3 of the 4 hijackers die.
* October 18 – German Autumn: Red Army Faction members Andreas Baader, Jan-Carl Raspe and Gudrun Ensslin commit suicide in Stammheim prison; Irmgard Möller fails (their supporters still claim they were murdered). They are buried October 27.
* October 18 – Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, opens the 3rd session of the 30th Canadian Parliament.
* October 18 – Reggie Jackson blasts 3 home runs to lead the New York Yankees to World Series victory.

Oct. 26: Last natural smallpox case (in Somalia).

* October 19 – German Autumn: Kidnapped industrialist Hanns-Martin Schleyer is found murdered in Mulhouse, France.
* October 20 – Three members of the rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd die in a charter plane crash outside Gillsburg, Mississippi, 3 days after the release of their fifth studio album Street Survivors.
* October 21 – The European Patent Institute is founded.
* October 26 – The last natural smallpox case is discovered in Merca district, Somalia. The WHO and the CDC consider this date the anniversary of the eradication of smallpox, the most spectacular success of vaccination and, by extension, of modern science.
* October 28 – Hong Kong police forces attack the ICAC headquarters.
* October 28 – Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols is released in the United Kingdom.

[edit] November

* November 1 – 2060 Chiron, first of the outer solar system asteroids known as Centaurs, is discovered by Charlie Kowal.

Nov. 19: Sadat meets Menachem Begin in Israel.
Nov.22 TCP/IP links 3 of 111 ARPANET nodes.

* November 2 – The worst storm in Athens' modern history causes havoc across the Greek capital and kills 38 people.
* November 6 – The Kelly Barnes Dam, located above Toccoa Falls Bible College near Toccoa, Georgia fails, killing 39.
* November 8 – Greek archaeologist Manolis Andronikos discovers the tomb of Philip II of Macedon at Vergina.
* November 8 – San Francisco elects City Supervisor Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official of any large city in the U.S.
* November 9 – Gen. Hugo Banzer, president of the military government of Bolivia, announces that the constitutional democracy will be restored in 1978 instead of 1980 as previously provided.
* November 19 – Egyptian President Anwar Sadat becomes the first Arab leader to officially visit Israel when he meets with Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, seeking a permanent peace settlement.
* November 19 – TAP Portugal Flight 425 crashes at Madeira Airport, Funchal, Portugal, killing 131 and leaving 33 survivors.
* November 22 – British Airways inaugurates regular London to New York City supersonic Concorde service.
* November 22 – TCP/IP test succeeds connecting 3 ARPANET nodes (of 111), in what eventually becomes the Internet protocol.[2]
* November 27 – The Rankin/Bass animated film The Hobbit premiers on NBC in the United States

[edit] December

* December 1 – The Lockheed's top-secret stealth aircraft project, designated Have Blue, precursor to the U.S. F-117A Nighthawk, makes its first flight.
* December 1- The Nickelodeon Television Channel, a children's cartoon channel, launches as The Pinwheel Network.
* December 4 – Jean-Bédel Bokassa, president of the Central African Republic, crowns himself Emperor.
* December 4 – Malaysia Airlines Flight 653 is hijacked and crashes in Tanjung Kupang, Johor, Malaysia, killing all 100 passengers and crew on board.

December
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

* December 13 – A DC-3 charter plane carrying the University of Evansville basketball team to Nashville, Tenn., crashes in rain and dense fog about 90 seconds after takeoff from Evansville Dress Regional Airport. Twenty-nine people die in the crash, including 14 members of the team and head coach Bob Watson.

[dancing_with_durga]

Sorry, yeah, It doesn't make sense.

My point was they wouldn't have known when the games were being awarded.

Is that sarcasm? Again from the BBC site (dated July 4th):


How does the Olympic voting work?

Olympic vote timetable (UK time)
Logos for the five Olympic bidding cities
3am - Paris presentation to IOC members
4.30am - New York presentation
6am - Moscow presentation
8.30am - London presentation
10am - Madrid presentation
11.15am - IOC inspectors presentation to IOC members
11.45am - Voting starts to choose the 2012 Olympic hosts
12.30pm - Announcement ceremony begins
12.45pm - Decision of 2012 Olympics hosts expected


London, Paris, Madrid, Moscow and New York are all competing in what is expected to be one of the tightest races ever.

The winning city is picked on Wednesday 6 July by members of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), but how do they do it?

You have to remember how big a story this was in the weeks leading up to the vote. Amy time in the week before the vote would have had an effect.
.

[titan]

Branjo, that's not the point.

There's more in this link. The significant event of 1977 was Elvis's death, who died on the 'throne'

Info in this link ...

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

[titan]

http://en.beijing2008.cn/spirit/pastgames/winterolympics/saltlakecity2002/

77 National Olympic Committees (Nations)


Wednesday, 6 February, 2002, 11:51 GMT
Ground Zero flag set for Olympics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1803899.stm

[branjo]

Branjo, that's not the point.

There's more in this link. The significant event of 1977 was Elvis's death, who died on the 'throne'

Info in this link ...

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

That is true, "The Throne", lol. I get my best ideas on the throne :D

Added: Yeah now that i read the link there are some pretty freaking weird things going on there, too many similarities to be, well, "similarities".

This begs the question though, is it possible this is done outside of conscious awareness, I mean in another realm for the coinciding people who are aware to recognize such events not at face value.
I don't want to splice this with the 4th dimensional reptilian thing, so I am not going there, not with a 12 foot pole, I think the forces of light and dark are wayyyy beyond any form.

Most times I think these were and still are purely physical and human acts of barbarism and other times it does feel like there is a force, which I cannot say is light or dark acting upon us spiritually.
I mean to any supernatural force, I would think that death is not such the punishment we think it is, so a force of light could just as easily "recall" important souls back to home base as it were or to strengthen the collective consciousness for whats to come, which is why most of the people who helped the world get taken from us in a cruel way, Lennon, Gandhi etc

Undoubtedly no matter what my beliefs are on the subject those that are knee deep in these acts are fully aware of some esoteric agenda and are besotted with kabbalistic meanings to everything, sometimes I think the reason they leave the door open for the "conspiracy folk" is to highlight who they are, like some sort of conscious survey.

Biblical stuff too is quite freaky, but there are a couple of personal explanations I am forced to deal with, either the Bible is spot on and there is a God called yada yada and Jesus is the dude, and everything that is said to happen is happening just like the bible said, or someone with an immense amount of power over the world is using the bible like a script and forcing these things to happen.

But things do need a serious level of scrutiny, and there is basically nothing within a system that does not lead back to the goal of the system, all sides play a part, seldom know they are being played. I actually think that the Iluminatti are also being played, in fact I think the very fact that we assume we know who they are, could be given to us like a bottle to a baby.

[size_of_light]

Hmm.

Three Kings: JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson
One Queen: Diana

Anyone get the feeling we're two Queens overdue? :eek:

The only thing I can think of is that Queen Elizabeth herself and maybe Madonna would balance that list out nicely.

[titan]

Hmm.

Three Kings: JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson
One Queen: Diana

Anyone get the feeling we're two Queens overdue? :eek:

The only thing I can think of is that Queen Elizabeth herself and maybe Madonna would balance that list out nicely.

The 'Queen' or goddess worship can by by-proxy too. Like Michael Jackson for e.g....all that energy is going to Isis/Diana and Osiris. Jack - Jack in the Green. Same deity as Odin, Osiris, Robin Hood etc.

I know what you mean though!

[julieray]

[QUOTE=size_of_light;1108143]Hmm.

Three Kings: JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson
One Queen: Diana

Anyone get the feeling we're two Queens overdue? :eek:

The only thing I can think of is that Queen Elizabeth herself and maybe Madonna would balance that list out nicely.[/QUOTE

What about Freddie Mercury - wasn't he the greatest Queen of them all?? :D

What I don't understand is why these numbers are so important to the elite - what does it all mean? I read somewhere that 13 was the love vibration which is why we have been brainwashed to believe that it is unlucky so we avoid it at all costs. If that is the case, then why is 13 an important number to them? I see all the number connections, but I have no idea why it is important and what it all means??? Sorry I must be really ignorant too!

[titan]

That is true, "The Throne", lol. I get my best ideas on the throne :D

Added: Yeah now that i read the link there are some pretty freaking weird things going on there, too many similarities to be, well, "similarities".

This begs the question though, is it possible this is done outside of conscious awareness, I mean in another realm for the coinciding people who are aware to recognize such events not at face value.
I don't want to splice this with the 4th dimensional reptilian thing, so I am not going there, not with a 12 foot pole, I think the forces of light and dark are wayyyy beyond any form.

Most times I think these were and still are purely physical and human acts of barbarism and other times it does feel like there is a force, which I cannot say is light or dark acting upon us spiritually.
I mean to any supernatural force, I would think that death is not such the punishment we think it is, so a force of light could just as easily "recall" important souls back to home base as it were or to strengthen the collective consciousness for whats to come, which is why most of the people who helped the world get taken from us in a cruel way, Lennon, Gandhi etc

Undoubtedly no matter what my beliefs are on the subject those that are knee deep in these acts are fully aware of some esoteric agenda and are besotted with kabbalistic meanings to everything, sometimes I think the reason they leave the door open for the "conspiracy folk" is to highlight who they are, like some sort of conscious survey.

Biblical stuff too is quite freaky, but there are a couple of personal explanations I am forced to deal with, either the Bible is spot on and there is a God called yada yada and Jesus is the dude, and everything that is said to happen is happening just like the bible said, or someone with an immense amount of power over the world is using the bible like a script and forcing these things to happen.

But things do need a serious level of scrutiny, and there is basically nothing within a system that does not lead back to the goal of the system, all sides play a part, seldom know they are being played. I actually think that the Iluminatti are also being played, in fact I think the very fact that we assume we know who they are, could be given to us like a bottle to a baby.

Well in all honesty, I'll grab that pole no problem. lol.

Yeah, it looks to me that there is an intelligence overseeing this which knocks 'time' as we know it on the head - and it looks to be reptilian. Not that I'm a big believer of the shape shifting stuff per say.....but I do think the Elite are taking part in rituals and communicating with entities.

[titan]

[QUOTE=size_of_light;1108143]Hmm.

Three Kings: JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson
One Queen: Diana

Anyone get the feeling we're two Queens overdue? :eek:

The only thing I can think of is that Queen Elizabeth herself and maybe Madonna would balance that list out nicely.[/QUOTE

What about Freddie Mercury - wasn't he the greatest Queen of them all?? :D

What I don't understand is why these numbers are so important to the elite - what does it all mean? I read somewhere that 13 was the love vibration which is why we have been brainwashed to believe that it is unlucky so we avoid it at all costs. If that is the case, then why is 13 an important number to them? I see all the number connections, but I have no idea why it is important and what it all means??? Sorry I must be really ignorant too!

Julieray - Yes! you got it.....absolutely. AIDS

http://991.com/newGallery/Freddie-Mercury-Rock-Iconz-Statue-433053.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VDRzlgtL6A

Yes, I too believe the number 13 is lucky..M.......MMMMMM...sing a new song.

McMemecki's threads are really good.

p.s...the other 'Queen' (sorry, no offensive to anyone, the Illuminati have a very sick sense of humour) was Gianni Versace. This allowed Diana to be at a funeral beside Elton......

Ok, this is from Matthew Delooze's book, although if memory serves he was talking about Elton singing at Diana's funeral. He was saying that Elton John's middle name is 'Hercules' so symbolically 2 dieties from the lower forth were recieving our respect/attention.

But before that, imo....the 'Queen' Versace was murdered so the two (Hercules and Diana) could be seen in mourning together. Everything is about compounding the rituals.




http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/13/article-0-000432A600000258-576_468x389.jpg

[size_of_light]

The 'Queen' or goddess worship can by by-proxy too. Like Michael Jackson for e.g....all that energy is going to Isis/Diana and Osiris. Jack - Jack in the Green. Same deity as Odin, Osiris, Robin Hood etc.

I know what you mean though!

Hangon! I've just figured it out!

Marilyn Monroe was the second Queen.

So we've got Marilyn, Diana...

And linking those two together we have our third and final Queen...

(drumroll)

Elton John! :eek:

[titan]

Hangon! I've just figured it out!

Marilyn Monroe was the second Queen.

So we've got Marilyn, Diana...

And linking those two together we have our third and final Queen...

(drumroll)

Elton John! :eek:

Although, to be fair :D Elton was dressed up as Louis the XV1 - the Sun King.

So, he's both....lol.

But you might be right. Loads of music acts get this kind of proxy attention though...but Elton is major....like Madonna/Esther.

eta..

Size of Light...I agree. Marilyn was a goddess sacrifice

[dancing_with_durga]

I have a deep feeling that the secret to numbers lies within the Prime Numbers, which of course include both 7 and 13. If we could understand their pattern we would be getting somewhere I think. The biggest Prime Number as yet discovered is
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/227/prime.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/prime.jpg/)

So that number can only be divided by itself and 1. Blimey!
.

[titan]

Ok, whilst we;re on music, and to get back to the Jubilee/Queen etc. ...there's this (i have to say i first read about this in Delooze book - about giving energy to the song, but not about the year)

1977:

http://www.extraextra.org/9.JamieReid%27GodSavetheQueen.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen_(Sex_Pistols_song)

God Save the Queen" was the second single released by the punk rock band Sex Pistols. It was released during Queen Elizabeth II's Silver Jubilee in 1977

There was nothing anti- establishment about it. It was a total con.

[titan]

I have a deep feeling that the secret to numbers lies within the Prime Numbers, which of course include both 7 and 13. If we could understand their pattern we would be getting somewhere I think. The biggest Prime Number as yet discovered is


So that number can only be divided by itself and 1. Blimey!
.

One thing I noticed is that 2002 - Queens Jubilee was a palindrome....read the same backwards.

So was 1991, and you have the infamous 'George Bush Snr and his 'New World Order' on September the 11th' speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

[titan]

http://img3.travelblog.org/Photos/1161/188783/t/1402200-The-Drum-Tower-Beijing-0.jpg

Drum Tower, view from Bell Tower - Beijing.

Two Towers.


on the 9th August, dayafter Olympics kick off

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/08/09/olympics.murder/index.html

news agency, Xinhua, reported.

The U.S. Olympic Committee identified the dead man as Todd Bachman, the father-in-law of Olympic Men's Indoor Volleyball Head Coach Hugh McCutcheon. Bachman's wife, Barbara, suffered "serious and life-threatening" injuries, the committee said.

The attacker, identified as a 47-year-old man from Hangzhou, in eastern China, jumped from the second level of the building, a spokesman for the Beijing Municipal Government Information Office told Xinhua

The man then committed suicide by throwing himself from the second story of the site, the 13th century Drum Tower just five miles from the main Olympics site.

President Bush, who is in Beijing for the Games, said in a statement that he and the first lady were "saddened" by the attack.

[kingmonkey]

Is that sarcasm? Again from the BBC site (dated July 4th):



You have to remember how big a story this was in the weeks leading up to the vote. Amy time in the week before the vote would have had an effect.
.

It wasn't sarcasm, you're reading too much into it...I admitted what I said was wrong. I never gave much thought to the Olympics as an issue...If anything the G8 summit would've been more of a target. They didn't want to "hurt London" they wanted to get their voice heard on an international scale; what better time than the G8?

[titan]

http://4lfie.com/?p=189



people trapped in the Tube »London Explosions
We’re talking about the day after the decision to host the olympics here, first reports of being explosions at 8:49 am, just as people are rushing to get to work and the tubes are at their busiest of the day.



London Tube explosiosn… “The entire network has been shut down following explosions at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King’s Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.”

There has also been a new report of a bus exploding in central london


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http://www.soapb.com/2005/07/page/6/

The slaughter of innocents will not achieve anything. It only lessens whatever credibility you’ve had before. If you haven’t found out yet, an al-Qaeda-linked group has claimed responsibility for this. It still hasn’t been verified but their is a great chance of it being them again.

A CBC timeline:

8:49 a.m. British transport police receive report on incident on Metropolitan Line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate.

9:15 a.m. Media reports say explosion reported and emergency services headed to Liverpool Street Station.

9:24 a.m. Transport police say cause of emergency could be a collision of two trains, a power cut, or an exploded power cable. Police report some minor injuries.

9:33 a.m. London Underground shut down. Passengers told a power fault across network is to blame.

9:33 a.m. Another incident at Edgware Road Station reported.

9:40 a.m. Transport police report power surge incidents at five Underground stations: Aldgate, Edgware Road, King’s Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.

10:02 a.m. Scotland Yard says it is responding to a major incident.

10:14 a.m. Reports of a bus torn apart by an explosion in central London.

10:21 a.m. Scotland Yard says there have been multiple explosions in London.

10:23 a.m. Transport police confirm explosion on a bus at Tavistock Place.

10:25 a.m. BBC says British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Scotland for G-8 summit, is unsure if explosions are terrorist attack.

10:25 a.m. Two buses reported damaged in explosion. Eyewitnesses say a double-decker bus was blown into the air.

10:25 a.m. Transport union reports three explosions on buses.

10:39 a.m. All hospitals in London put on major incident alert.

10:49 a.m. Police report serious casualties, but don’t confirm any deaths.

10:51 a.m. Police say two trains stuck in tunnels at Edgware Road. Passenger says he saw bodies in the wreckage.

10:55 a.m. Reuters reports at least 90 casualties at Aldgate Station.

11:18 a.m. BBC speaks with London Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair. He says he knows of “about six explosions” on a bus and at Underground stations, calls the situation confusing and advises Londoners to stay put.

11:26 a.m. European Parliament President Josep Burrell blames terrorism for co-ordinated attacks and “confirmed deaths.”

11:30 a.m. Signs on highways into London issue warning: “Avoid London. Area Closed. Turn on Radio.”

12:05 p.m. Blair issues statement regarding “series of terrorist attacks in London.” Blair says he will go to London and that the G-8 summit will continue in his absence.

12:39 p.m. Reuters reports that an unknown group calling itself the Secret Group of al-Qaeda’s Jihad in Europe issues statement on website claiming responsibility for attack.

12:57 p.m. Home Secretary Charles Clarke confirms four explosions, three in subways, one on a bus.

1:00 p.m. G-8 leaders meeting in Scotland condemn attacks and say they will remain united in fight against terrorism.

1:30 p.m. Hospital officials report 190 people injured in explosions.

1:32 p.m. U.S. President George W. Bush, at G-8 summit, says he has told security officials back home to be extra vigilant.

1:42 p.m. London police official says traces of explosives found at two blast sites.

2:12 p.m. A U.S. law enforcement official says at least 40 people were killed.

3:27 p.m. London police confirm 33 fatalities from three explosions in the underground.

3:29 p.m. London Ambulance Service officials say 45 people are seriously injured



Bus blast 9:47 9/11

8:49 11 minutes to 9

[julieray]

Bus blast 9:47 9/11

8:49 11 minutes to 9

What is the significance of it all though? Does it have some vibrational relevance to these people? If so how? What does it do? How do they benefit from all this numerological trickery? It may be some sort of subliminal messaging, because when you look on the face of it, it doesn't really mean anything. Any ideas??

[siatd]

I have an idea - this is a waste of time. The number 7 appears once in every ten whole numbers. The number 52 appears in every hundred whole numbers. A year ending in 52 appears every century.

.: this is a distraction from proper inquiry about what happened on 7/7.

[size_of_light]

I have an idea - this is a waste of time. The number 7 appears once in every ten whole numbers. The number 52 appears in every hundred whole numbers. A year ending in 52 appears every century.

.: this is a distraction from proper inquiry about what happened on 7/7.

Why is it a distraction? There's other threads covering 7/7.

If it was an inside job and there were occult implications this is the kind of investigation that's going to shed light on that.

[siatd]

Why is it a distraction? There's other threads covering 7/7.

Full of poorly researched, inaccurate claims of fact by clueless people.

If it was an inside job and there were occult implications this is the kind of investigation that's going to shed light on that.

This kind of investigation which ignores evidence that runs counter to the desired numerological horseshit conclusion (e.g. the actual number of deaths) is nothing more than a distraction. If this kind of inquiry was done rigorously, with care taken to eliminate information that turns out to be poorly sourced or just wrong, and there was some clear distinction drawn by people between coincidence and genuine connections then maybe, just maybe it could prove fruitful.

But that's not what is taking place here. Instead, we see an inquiry where every coincidence is treated as cast iron confirmation of what people already wanted to believe, where nothing is discarded even when it is plain wrong, and where no distinction is drawn between validly sourced evidence and unconfirmed, speculative rumours.

[dancing_with_durga]

I have an idea - this is a waste of time. The number 7 appears once in every ten whole numbers. The number 52 appears in every hundred whole numbers. A year ending in 52 appears every century.

.: this is a distraction from proper inquiry about what happened on 7/7.

If "this is a waste of time" why are you wasting your time by repeatedly posting here?

There are threads elsewhere here, and indeed whole sites dedicated to forensic analysis of events that day, in what way is this "a distraction" from them?

If you take the linear numbers-based view you express above, which is a perfectly valid view, you might want to consider the numbers involved with coincidence, or more particularly the coincidences that took place on 7/7 based on the mathematical laws of probability.
.

[size_of_light]

Full of poorly researched, inaccurate claims of fact by clueless people.



This kind of investigation which ignores evidence that runs counter to the desired numerological horseshit conclusion (e.g. the actual number of deaths) is nothing more than a distraction. If this kind of inquiry was done rigorously, with care taken to eliminate information that turns out to be poorly sourced or just wrong, and there was some clear distinction drawn by people between coincidence and genuine connections then maybe, just maybe it could prove fruitful.

But that's not what is taking place here. Instead, we see an inquiry where every coincidence is treated as cast iron confirmation of what people already wanted to believe, where nothing is discarded even when it is plain wrong, and where no distinction is drawn between validly sourced evidence and unconfirmed, speculative rumours.

Okay, but if you can, indulge me for a moment before you go, I'd just like your opinion since you're coming at this from a different perspective...

I'll take something I suggested earlier, and I'd like your feedback:

Here's an interesting one:

She was coronated on June 2nd, 1953. (2/6/53)
52 years, 1 month, 5 days) later: 52 people murdered.

She became Queen on 6th February, 1952. (6/2/52)
53 years, 5 months, 1 day later, 52 people were murdered.

So much symmetry it burns the eyes.

Even more clear when expressed this way:

6/2/52 = 53/5/1
2/6/53 = 52/1/5



What do you think about that? Note the diagonal symmetry in the last set of numbers there. Is that sort of thing just a random and meaningless coincidence?

I'd tend to agree if we weren't discussing the possible occult implications of all this and the apparent obsession occultists have with numbers.

Any thoughts?

Maybe you can convince me this is a waste of time.

[tannah]

Full of poorly researched, inaccurate claims of fact by clueless people.



This kind of investigation which ignores evidence that runs counter to the desired numerological horseshit conclusion (e.g. the actual number of deaths) is nothing more than a distraction. If this kind of inquiry was done rigorously, with care taken to eliminate information that turns out to be poorly sourced or just wrong, and there was some clear distinction drawn by people between coincidence and genuine connections then maybe, just maybe it could prove fruitful.

But that's not what is taking place here. Instead, we see an inquiry where every coincidence is treated as cast iron confirmation of what people already wanted to believe, where nothing is discarded even when it is plain wrong, and where no distinction is drawn between validly sourced evidence and unconfirmed, speculative rumours.

The only question that needs pondering is whether or not people use numerology and occult symbology in order to make decisions and persue actions, not whether numerology is BS or not.

You would need to be one of the worst pseudo-skeptics in order to deny that numerology has played a very intrinsic role in history.

If you study the Greek bible, for example, and the numerological content "hidden" within, you will be getting a very empirical view of how important numbers were, and still are to various groups.

So, instead of this not being beneficial for an investigation into 7/7, for example, it is actually a much needed angle if we want to understand certain events deeper. And by "deeper" I mean that behind these kinds of events are groups that are very much into numerology, symbolism, and dark force worship.

[titan]

Bus blast 9:47 9/11

8:49 11 minutes to 9

What is the significance of it all though? Does it have some vibrational relevance to these people? If so how? What does it do? How do they benefit from all this numerological trickery? It may be some sort of subliminal messaging, because when you look on the face of it, it doesn't really mean anything. Any ideas??

Well I think the occultists are obsessives - plus they have to tell what they are doing - as always. I think it will have a vibrational effect too.

[titan]

Suicide Bombers Shot Dead At Canary Wharf
They haven't stopped trying to kill.

A New Zealander working for Reuters in London says two colleagues witnessed the unconfirmed shooting by police of two apparent suicide bombers outside the HSBC tower at Canary Wharf in London.

The New Zealander, who did not want to be named, said the killing of the two men wearing bombs happened at 10.30am on Thursday (London time).

Following the shooting, the 8000 workers in the 44-storey tower were told to stay away from windows and remain in the building for at least six hours, the New Zealand man said.

He was not prepared to give the names of his two English colleagues, who he said witnessed the shooting from a building across the road from the tower.

Reports of attacks carried out by suicide bombers have been rife in London.

Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper reported an unconfirmed incident of police shooting a bomber outside the HSBC tower.

Canadian Brendan Spinks, who works on the 18th floor of the tower, said he saw a "massive rush of policemen" outside the building after London was rocked by the bombings.

http://discardedlies.com/entry/?4059

Canary Wharf Benben:

http://www.freefoto.com/images/811/24/811_24_7805---One-Canada-Square-Canary-Wharf-Tower--London_web.jpg

http://www.tallestskyscrapers.info/london-one-canada-square.php

The One Canada Square tower stands at 235 metres (771 ft) in height

The top of the building is capped by a 39.6 metre (130 feet) pyramid which weighs 11 tons

[titan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/investigation/html/bombers.stm#

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/01/article-0-0224FD0600000578-166_224x321.jpg

Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Edgware Road bomber

His bomb, detonated on a westbound Circle Line train, killed seven people


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NE-72ZXux-g/SEAp67ttcVI/AAAAAAAADWg/fczgehPUjzE/s320/tanweer.jpg

Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Aldgate bomber

Tanweer detonated his bomb on the eastbound Circle line, killing seven others


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41311000/jpg/_41311749_bomb4_notbbcautiong203.jpg

Germaine Lindsay, 19, Russell Square bomber

Lindsay carried out the most deadly of the bombings, killing 26 on the Piccadilly line train.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/investigation/img/hussaincctv_split_pa203.jpg

Hasib Mir Hussain, 18, Tavistock Square bomber

His family said they were "devastated" to learn he was the bus bomber who claimed 13 lives on 7 July



http://www.merryroyals.com/files/2008/11/queen-elizabeth-order-of-the-garter-close-up-nc.jpg

Elizabeth II, born (19) 26

[titan]

http://web.archive.org/web/20060503052013/http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1637032005

ONE of the London suicide bombers was allowed to tour the Houses of Parliament as the guest of an MP months after police and intelligence services became aware of his links to another alleged bomb plot, it emerged last night.

Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, was a guest of the Labour MP Jon Trickett in July 2004, four months after he had been identified by intelligence officials as a "criminal associate" of one of the subjects of a major counter-terrorism operation that had resulted in several arrests.



Ritual:

It also emerged yesterday that Farida Patel, Khan's mother-in-law, was pictured at a Buckingham Palace garden party with her husband, Abdul Aslam, and their daughter, Hasina. In 1998, she became the first Asian woman to attend a Palace garden party. Yesterday, she was being guarded by police in a safe house as forensic detectives continued to comb her home for clues.


http://www.chezbois.com/photogallery/photo_shopping_list/4711.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm

Last Updated: Thursday, 21 July 2005, 16:38 GMT 17:38 UK

London's Tube network has been plunged into chaos with stations cleared after minor blasts on two trains and a bus.

Eyewitnesses heard bangs and saw abandoned rucksacks at the sites of the incidents at Warren Street and Oval tube stations as well as the number 26 bus in Bethnal Green


21st July 2005 - Queen's Garden Party at Buckinham Palace.

Source: http://www.215squadron.org.uk/awards.asp

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080708/britain-queen-s-party/images/c156107c-b921-4805-bd2c-9d75536ad8c2.jpg
26

[dancing_with_durga]

I reckon the woman on the right in the purple jacket has got the right idea!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080708/britain-queen-s-party/images/c156107c-b921-4805-bd2c-9d75536ad8c2.jpg

[titan]

I reckon the woman on the right in the purple jacket has got the right idea!

You're right, the whole of the world should do one big bum curtsey to Queen.

[titan]

http://www.20thcenturylondon.org.uk/server.php?show=conInformationRecord.206

77 Jubilee

In the capital, commemorative events included an Easter Parade organised by London Transport. The parade was led by three red buses, one from each of the decades of Elizabeth’s reign

The official Jubilee days coincided with the queen's official birthday, which takes place on one of the first three Saturdays in June. On 6 June, Elizabeth lit a bonfire beacon at Windsor Castle and a chain of beacons lit up across the nation to mark the start of the celebrations.



2002 Jubilee


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2029311.stm

Thursday, 6 June, 2002, 12:47 GMT 13:47 UK

Resuming her Golden Jubilee tour, the Queen has visited a London bus depot to jump aboard a modern double-decker for the first time.

Given that the Queen has just taken delivery of a custom-built Bentley limo - rumoured to have cost £5m - and that she has spent much of the Jubilee weekend riding around in King George III's £27m gold state coach, who would have thought she'd go anywhere near a double-decker bus.

"It's a bus fit for a queen, definitely," says driver Tony Farrell from the front seat of the number 52, where he waits to meet the royal party.



http://www.showbus.com/models/rm6gj.JPG
Golden Jubilee double decker bus

[titan]

14th June 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkFYxISpqOw


MoD criticised for Nimrod flypast

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7453788.stm

The MoD has come under attack for allowing a Nimrod aircraft to fly over central London during a flypast to mark the Queen's official birthday.

It follows a coroner's ruling three weeks ago that the fleet is unairworthy and should be grounded.

Relatives of 14 men killed when their plane exploded over Afghanistan two years ago are furious about the Buckingham Palace flypast.

The MoD insisted the plane was safe to fly.
The Nimrod, from RAF Kinloss, was one of 55 aircraft taking part.

The flypast followed the Trooping the Colour ceremony.

Relatives are unhappy that it was allowed to fly just 1,500 feet over the most populated part of the country.

Graham Knight, whose son died in the crash, said: "We have gone through a three-week inquest in which the coroner said the planes were un-airworthy.


Families' letter to Armed Forces Minister:

Your experts have completely different information to that which we heard in the coroner's court

"Then they fly it over the most populated part of the country.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1977632.ece

June 24, 2007

Nimrod failure was predicted

[julieray]

[url]http://web.archive.org/web/20060503052013/http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1637032005[/url



That report gives a whole new meaning to the word 'grooming'. I think it is quite plain to see that these men were misguided and framed all along, whilst the article tries to depict that they cunningly intercepted and deceived the poor unaware government as to their true agenda - oh please!

[titan]

That report gives a whole new meaning to the word 'grooming'. I think it is quite plain to see that these men were misguided and framed all along, whilst the article tries to depict that they cunningly intercepted and deceived the poor unaware government as to their true agenda - oh please!

Yes, and the Parliament tour was stamping the future event too I feel.

[titan]

http://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/blackout1965.jpg

9/11 (as written in the United Kingdom)


http://experiencingmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/time-magazine-cover-1977-nyc-blackout.jpg


Power cut chaos hits millions

http://news.scotsman.com/powercuts/Power-cut-chaos-hits-millions.2452937.jp

"This is the highest level of security alert. The plans that were drawn up after 11 September are now in place," one officer said


Power cut causes chaos

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3189755.stm

A rush-hour power cut has caused major disruption on rail and Tube services in London and the South East

Civil servant Alan Basford, 52, from Meopham, Kent, added: "This disruption seems very similar to what happened in New York, and it's also a bit strange the two events have happened close together."


http://www.stamps.com.au/assets/image/1244180140-section4.jpg

Became Queen on the 6th of February, 1952.



http://www.thelondondailynews.com/images/low_blurry_tube_tunnel.jpg

Hundreds stranded as power failure hits Tube
Dick Murray, Transport Editor
06.02.08

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23435994-details/Hundreds+stranded+as+power+failure+hits+Tube/article.do

Tube commuters had to be walked through a tunnel to safety today after a major power failure crippled services on the Jubilee line.

[howie]

http://experiencingmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/time-magazine-cover-1977-nyc-blackout.jpg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSxL8GUn-g

Flight 911 narrowly misses World Trade Center after radar blackout.

[titan]

Hi howie :) that' interesting - flight 911. Although I'm not at the bit where your saying the plane narrowly misses the WTC - what episode number is it? (oops i might have missed it though)

How did you know about this? Did it pop up in your memory?

I don't watch telly, but I caught a bit of Celebrity Masterchef the other day. I noticed this car. Earlier in the year I was listening to the same programme in the background and they were going on about Princess Diana dying in a crash even though the main woman in it had time travelled to 1982 or something - weird - plus the freemasonic ceiling in the police room.

Taking the piss/ annoucement:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/20/article-0-048EDEC6000005DC-555_468x464.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_02/AudiMS0801_468x312.jpg

July 7 51V 51+5=11

[howie]

Hi howie :) that' interesting - flight 911. Although I'm not at the bit where your saying the plane narrowly misses the WTC - what episode number is it? (oops i might have missed it though)

How did you know about this? Did it pop up in your memory?


I saw it about 2 years ago on Google video, I think the 911 plane bit is in a later part of that episode. I remembered that one because it was so blatant, James Burke standing on top of the south tower saying you never know whats gonna happen next, a car could run you over.

It's not the first Flight 911 connected to the Towers, in 1966 another flight 911 crashed into Mount Fuji

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_911

The interesting thing about that is Mount Fuji is used as the logo for Fuji Banking Corp, whose offices were on the 83rd floor of Tower 2 & thats where flight 175 crashed. Bushes Harkken Energy used Fuji to transfer $50m to Salem Bin Laden who was killed in a plane crash in Texas.

Go to February 26 1981 (http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id108.htm) for another near miss at the World Trade Center, similar to the plot of Escape from New York released later that same year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUQiFMT1jzU


I spotted the Audi reg plate in Ashes to Ashes in series 1, that model was not released till '83, it should be A reg not V but that would spoil the symbolism.

[titan]

I saw it about 2 years ago on Google video, I think the 911 plane bit is in a later part of that episode. I remembered that one because it was so blatant, James Burke standing on top of the south tower saying you never know whats gonna happen next, a car could run you over.

It's not the first Flight 911 connected to the Towers, in 1966 another flight 911 crashed into Mount Fuji

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_911

The interesting thing about that is Mount Fuji is used as the logo for Fuji Banking Corp, whose offices were on the 83rd floor of Tower 2 & thats where flight 175 crashed. Bushes Harkken Energy used Fuji to transfer $50m to Salem Bin Laden who was killed in a plane crash in Texas.

Go to February 26 1981 (http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id108.htm) for another near miss at the World Trade Center, similar to the plot of Escape from New York released later that same year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUQiFMT1jzU


I spotted the Audi reg plate in Ashes to Ashes in series 1, that model was not released till '83, it should be A reg not V but that would spoil the symbolism.

Hello again. I know about the Mount Fuji crash - also the WTC on the 26th - (Queen Liz birth) Also Mumbai bombings last year.

What is your opinion on this stuff? I think it's an occult annoucement so it's fed into the public's consciousness and the over-riding intelligence is coming from the reptilians in the lower fourth. The main reason is to feed the symbolism which is then used against us.

[howie]

I think the date was chosen for their numerology, it's the 188th day of the year with 177 remaining. 66 days before 9/11 2005 & 3 years (or 36 months) since news reports accuse MI6 of sheltering Abu Qatada, the supposed European Al Qaeda leader, it's also Michael Howards birthday, Leader of the Conservatives on 7/7.

7/7 happened exactly 90 years after the Queenstown railroad disaster, Queenston was set up in 1770 by United Empire Loyalists who were given recognition on 9 November (9/11).

9 November is the UKs 9/11, it is the 313th day of the year, there are 52 days remaining in the year.

We all know it was 911 days between 9/11 & 3/11 Madrid 2004, the exact time between London & Madrid bombings is 483 days, 1 hour, 13 minutes.

Those 4 muslims went to a lot of trouble to get the numbers to add up, they even picked a ringleader with the numerical initials of the previous 2 attacks & another bomber who was exactly 1177 weeks old.

Mohammad Sidiqe Khan = 13 19 11

The date is also 6 years 6 months & 6 days since the introduction of the Euro on 1/1/99

[titan]

I think the date was chosen for their numerology, it's the 188th day of the year with 177 remaining. 66 days before 9/11 2005 & 3 years (or 36 months) since news reports accuse MI6 of sheltering Abu Qatada, the supposed European Al Qaeda leader, it's also Michael Howards birthday, Leader of the Conservatives on 7/7.

7/7 happened exactly 90 years after the Queenstown railroad disaster, Queenston was set up in 1770 by United Empire Loyalists who were given recognition on 9 November (9/11).

9 November is the UKs 9/11, it is the 313th day of the year, there are 52 days remaining in the year.

We all know it was 911 days between 9/11 & 3/11 Madrid 2004, the exact time between London & Madrid bombings is 483 days, 1 hour, 13 minutes.

Those 4 muslims went to a lot of trouble to get the numbers to add up, they even picked a ringleader with the numerical initials of the previous 2 attacks & another bomber who was exactly 1177 weeks old.

Mohammad Sidiqe Khan = 13 19 11

The date is also 6 years 6 months & 6 days since the introduction of the Euro on 1/1/99

You mention Queenston. This is where the power station in Canada was located which was at 'fault' for the New York '65 blackout on 9/11 (UK style)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Blackout_of_1965

The cause of the failure was human error that happened days before the blackout, when maintenance personnel incorrectly set a protective relay on one of the transmission lines between the Niagara generating station Sir Adam Beck Station No. 2 in Queenston, Ontario.

[titan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3154757.stm

In 1965, when the electricity went on again after 13 hours, New Yorkers congratulated each other for the orderly, even jolly way they coped with the crisis. The feel-good factor was such that it went into folklore that nine months later the birth-rate spiked.

Twelve years later, Time magazine described 13 July 1977 as a Night of Terror. The New York Blackout, which affected the metropolitan area, saw power go out for 25 hours

[wakeuptime]

Thanks for the post. Fascinating. I'm just beginning to explore numerology and see how important it is. More people should read this post.

Ignore the dopey trolls.

[titan]

Hi, wakeuptime :) Glad you're getting something from the thread.

I wrote this elsewhere, but it belongs on this thread.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41328000/jpg/_41328645_pg_bus_getty1.jpg

Lion - sun symbolism. King - obvious. Number 26, year of Elizabeth's birth

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4700000/newsid_4704400/4704443.stm

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/24994011_8fd2acc9dd.jpg

77 Queen Elizabeth's first Jubilee

[dancing_with_durga]

A lot of very interesting stuff here: The Heat Is Rising - 7/7 London Bombings (http://www.oneballradio.com/node/115)
.

[julieray]

A lot of very interesting stuff here: The Heat Is Rising - 7/7 London Bombings (http://www.oneballradio.com/node/115)
.


I have seen that article on other website but I have put that website on favourites as it is full of extremely good information - Thank you!

I have just watched the clip on partial birth abortion in order to sell body parts for medical research etc. which is going on in America and now I feel quite sick to my stomach -

No reasonable person would see this as anything other than murder!
(Sorry I am going off track!) Rant over and out!

[titan]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3507040988_7df761a9f5.jpg

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Jubilee_Line

The line was officially opened by the Prince of WalesCharles, on 30 April 1979, with passenger services operating from 1 May 1979.


Diana Worship and Samhain

Tuesday, 1 November 2005, 20:55 GMT


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4394062.stm

The victims and survivors of the 7 July London bombings have been honoured in a national memorial service at St Paul's Cathedral in London.
Candles were lit to represent the four bombing sites and prayers said for all involved, including the emergency workers who dealt with the aftermath.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain


Festival of the Dead
Begins Northern Hemisphere=Evening of October 31
Southern Hemisphere=Evening of April 30
Ends Northern Hemisphere: November 1 or November 11
Southern Hemisphere: May 1

[titan]

http://mozakka.com/Nazy/Stpauls.htm

And to finish, the whole point of the sick ritualistic murders......continuation of the bloodline through sacrifice.

http://mozakka.com/Nazy/Stpauls.htm

Remain standing
THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
GOD save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save The Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save The Queen!
Nor on this land alone,
But be God’s mercies known
From shore to shore:
Lord, make the nations see
That we in unity
Should thrm one family
The wide world o’er.
Organ Musü after the Service
Choral No 2 in B minor César Franck (1 822-90)
12

The Dean and Chapte the BLchop of London, the ArchbLchop of Canterbu and the Lord Mayoi conduct Her Majesty The Queen, His Royal H4ghness The Duke of Edinburgh and members of the Royal Family to the Great West Dooi
Leaden of Faith Communities n’tuni to the Minor Canons’ Aisle.
The Choi, Visiting Ecumenical DignIaries Visiting Clergy, the College of Minor Canons and the College of Canons n’tuni to the &anc Aisle.
PLEASE REMAIN IN YOUR SEAT UNTIL REQUESTED TO MOVE BY A
WANDSMAN OR STEWARD



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk&feature=related

big bum curtsey to that

[julieray]

I think all this symbolism and numerology is perhaps then, given everything I have read just lately just a continuation of subliminal messaging to keep us all entranced in this illusion. Therefore even though we think it doesn't mean anything, it is in fact sending out strong messages almost with the effect of a tranquiliser, dumbing us down and keeping us from waking up.

[titan]

I think all this symbolism and numerology is perhaps then, given everything I have read just lately just a continuation of subliminal messaging to keep us all entranced in this illusion. Therefore even though we think it doesn't mean anything, it is in fact sending out strong messages almost with the effect of a tranquiliser, dumbing us down and keeping us from waking up.

I agree, it's like a hex, julieray.

[titan]

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Jubilee_Line

The original choice of battleship grey for the line's colour was based on the naval meaning of the word fleet; this became a lighter grey, representing the silver colour of the Jubilee itself.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3710109880_70a2afb15b.jpg?v=0

[dancing_with_durga]

THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
GOD save our gracious Queen,
Blah blah blah...


The Real National Anthem

God save our lizard queen
Long may her scales be green
Let her eat spleen!
Send her carnivorous
Blood-soaked and viperous
Long to drool over us
She is obscene!
:p
.

[titan]

The Real National Anthem

God save our lizard queen
Long may her scales be green
Let her eat spleen!
Send her carnivorous
Blood-soaked and viperous
Long to drool over us
She is obscene!
:p
.

lol..


Breaking the Serpent's Spell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvr9aa8Ntg

thanks to David Icke too :)

[bulletproofheart]

Imagine if every one that hates the royals stormed the palace,Anarchy!

[titan]

Dup

[titan]

bulletproofhear. :) I wouldn't give them the energy.

.................................................. ...............

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/13-killed-in-jakarta-hotel-car-bombing-589102.html

13 killed in Jakarta hotel car bombing

By Steven Gutkin, AP


Tuesday, 5 August 2003
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A suicide car bomb attack outside a hotel in the Indonesian capital Jakarta today killed at least 13 people and injured almost 150.


A suicide car bomb attack outside a hotel in the Indonesian capital Jakarta today killed at least 13 people and injured almost 150.

Shattered glass and puddles of blood covered a wide area around the Marriott Hotel, a popular place for visiting foreigners and diplomats in a business district near many overseas embassies.

"People were screaming, panicking," said Sodik, a witness who was having lunch on the 27th floor of an adjacent building. "I thought it was an earthquake."

Indonesian officials said that the bomb bore similarities to last year's nightclub bombing in Bali, which killed 202 people.

Black smoke billowed from the front of the hotel, a regular venue for receptions held by the US Embassy. During the past two years, American officials have held 4th of July celebrations at the hotel.

An Associated Press photographer on the scene minutes after the blast saw three badly burned bodies lying in the wreckage of a car outside the badly damaged hotel and the adjacent Plaza Mutiara office building.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the bombing. But since last year's blasts in Bali, authorities have warned that more attacks were likely in Indonesia - possibly by Jemaah Islamiyah, the south-east Asian terror group linked to al-Qa'ida.

It's alleged leader Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir is facing trial for treason over a series of bombings in 2000. About three dozen alleged Jemaah Islamiyah members are also accused in the Bali blasts and could be executed if convicted.

Today's bomb rocked the capital just two days before the first verdict is expected in a series of trials in Bali.

Hans Winkelmolen, president of PT Rabobank Duta Indonesia, a Dutch national, was among the dead, said a company spokeswoman. The bank is majority-owned by Rabobank of the Netherlands.

Several hospitals said they had admitted a total of 103 people with various injuries.

Officials suspected that the explosives had been placed in an Indonesian-made Kijang van, adding that its chasis was being examined.

Body parts were found near the wrecked vehicle and police were investigating whether they were those of bystanders or the suspected bomber.

Jakarta governor Sutiyoso, who like many Indonesians uses a single name, said it was "very likely" carried out by a suicide attacker.

The blast at the hotel is certain to hit Indonesia's efforts to attract back tourists and foreign investors following the Bali carnage.

Mellanie Solagratia, a spokeswoman for the hotel, said most of the damage appeared to have occurred in the basement and on the second floor. She said the 330-room hotel was 77 per cent full.

Witness Jaganathan Nadeson said he looked out of his window on the 22nd floor after the blast and saw a vehicle engulfed in flames in front of the hotel - apparently the car bomb, he said.

"I heard a big bang and I tried to get out of the building as quickly as possible," said Asroni, a hotel employee, as he picked bits of glass from his uniform. "The smoke was getting into my lungs."

The hotel's lobby plate glass windows were shattered, as were some upper-floor windows. The lobby was badly damaged, with chairs and tables strewn about. Several cars smoldered outside.

Inside a ground-floor restaurant of an adjacent building, half-eaten pasta dishes sat on tables covered in broken plates and glass.

Ceiling and wall panels were scattered in the street outside the lobby of the hotel, exposing the bare concrete pillars. The building appeared to be structurally intact.

The adjacent Rajawali building houses the embassies of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark. None of the staff were injured, officials said.

The explosion came four days after President Megawati Sukarnoputri vowed to destroy the terrorist networks responsible for a series of bombings across the world's largest Muslim nation, saying the "domestic branch of the international terrorism movement is a terrifying threat."

In a state-of-the-nation address, she vowed to "dismantle the terrorist network to its roots."

On Thursday, a court in Bali is due to deliver its verdict in the trial of Amrozi bin Nurhasyim, who is accused of planning and carrying out the attacks in Bali with other alleged members of Jemaah Islamiyah.

[curtaincat]

The Real National Anthem

God save our lizard queen
Long may her scales be green
Let her eat spleen!
Send her carnivorous
Blood-soaked and viperous
Long to drool over us
She is obscene!
:p
.

Eek! funny poem, very clever :D :eek:

[titan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/3041148/Islamabad-Marriott-hotel-bomb-killed-52-says-Pakistan.html

Islamabad Marriott hotel bomb killed 52, says Pakistan

[curtaincat]

titan, what do you make of the latest bombing Jakarta ?

17/07/2009 , or was it the day before?
:confused:

[curtaincat]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/3041148/Islamabad-Marriott-hotel-bomb-killed-52-says-Pakistan.html

Islamabad Marriott hotel bomb killed 52, says Pakistan

:eek: 52, again?
have you got the exact date and time?

[titan]

Hi curtaincat....

this latest one is being reported initially as 52 injured...that may go up of course...but for that alone I think it's Illuminati related.

i had a look at the previous one in 2003 and which has 13 and 77 and 33 (as in degrees) plus Sol..so it doesn't look good to me.


eta....if this happened on the 17th then it's a nod to Obama in my opinion as his number is 44 and 17 for some reason.

[titan]

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=16507

17-07-2009


Jakarta, (The Muslim News OnLine):

Bomb blasts have killed 11 and injured at least 52 people at two hotels in Jakarta's business area


The explosion at the Marriott hotel was reported to have occurred at 7:47 a.m. at the Restaurant Syailendra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

[curtaincat]

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=16507

17-07-2009


Jakarta, (The Muslim News OnLine):

Bomb blasts have killed 11 and injured at least 52 people at two hotels in Jakarta's business area


The explosion at the Marriott hotel was reported to have occurred at 7:47 a.m. at the Restaurant Syailendra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

omg, always the same numbers. how can anyone ignore this? ( I knew it was just before 8am, but 7.47

:eek:

[titan]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1989789.ece

PRINCESS Eugenie narrowly escaped the Mumbai massacre, The Sun can reveal.
The Queen’s 18-year-old granddaughter left the terror-hit city four days before the attacks.

It is thought she visited the Oberoi Hotel and the Leopold cafe where the massacre began. She was on the first leg of her Indian backpacking trip

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090677/RICHARD-KAY-Eugenies-terrorism-near-miss.html

Princess Eugenie has spoken of her shock that the hotel room she left just days before the Mumbai massacre was where police shot dead the last terrorist and brought the siege to an end.


The Queen's granddaughter was said to be 'very shaken up' at the thought of what might have happened had she prolonged her stay at the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_I_of_Belgium

Leopold I (Leopold George Christian Frederick; German: Leopold Georg Christian Friedrich; Prince of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, later Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Duke of Saxony; 16 December 1790 – 10 December 1865) was from 21 July 1831 the first King of the Belgians. He was the founder of the Belgian line of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha


http://danielle1city.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/princess-eugenie.jpg

[jkdt0077]

Interesting.

This is the report I just read on the Jakarta incident:
"Suicide attackers are suspected of carrying out twin bomb attacks on hotels in Jakarta which killed nine people and injured 50, a senior Indonesian politician said.

Theo Sambuaga, chairman of the parliamentary security commission, said "there are indications of suicide bombs" at the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton.

Manchester United, which had been due to stay at the Ritz-Carlton, cancelled a match in the Indonesian capital as part of a tour of Asia.

The English champions were to play an Indonesia Super League XI in Jakarta in a pre-season friendly on Monday. But the club said the game would not be going ahead."

I will be interested to see if these figures change to 52 as the story progresses.

[kisatu]

I am reading an article in The Guardian Weekly 11.07.09 and it has an article on MI5/MI6. A number interested me:
In a report in May, the parliamentary intelligence and security committee said it was "astounding" that before the London bombings MI5 was unable to provide intelligence cover for 52 targets it considered "essential".

[jkdt0077]

I am reading an article in The Guardian Weekly 11.07.09 and it has an article on MI5/MI6. A number interested me:

Just noticed that MI5 could also equate to: M + I + 5
1000 + 1 + 5
= 1006
Times by 2
= 2012

Might mean nothing but there you go...

[titan]

I am reading an article in The Guardian Weekly 11.07.09 and it has an article on MI5/MI6. A number interested me:

That's interesting, thanks.

[titan]

Interesting.

This is the report I just read on the Jakarta incident:
"Suicide attackers are suspected of carrying out twin bomb attacks on hotels in Jakarta which killed nine people and injured 50, a senior Indonesian politician said.

Theo Sambuaga, chairman of the parliamentary security commission, said "there are indications of suicide bombs" at the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton.

Manchester United, which had been due to stay at the Ritz-Carlton, cancelled a match in the Indonesian capital as part of a tour of Asia.

The English champions were to play an Indonesia Super League XI in Jakarta in a pre-season friendly on Monday. But the club said the game would not be going ahead."

I will be interested to see if these figures change to 52 as the story progresses.

I wasn't going to put this in the thread as it bothers more than it being 'meaningful' if you get my drift , but since you mentioned Man U.

Anyway, this name of this tower bothered me.....if anything I just get a sense of the weird from it.

I wanted to check it out because 2 of the bombers camse from Beeston in Leeds. It's been said (in Delooze: Heat is Rising I think) that this is another calling card - bees being synonymous with Freemasonry, plus makes me think of the Queen Bee too.

So, this is what I checked out:

http://www.beethamtower.org/images/london-beetham-tower.gif

http://www.illegal-logging.info/item_single.php?item=news&item_id=2340&approach_id=20

The Beetham and Simpson partnership has been recently granted planning permission for a 52-storey tower under construction in Southwark in London for visitors to the Olympics

http://www.beethamtower.org/manchester/famous-residents-of-the-beetham-tower.html

The one in Manchester is 47 floors. ...11

And very weird, but I think is a coincidence maybe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetham_Tower,_Manchester

On the 11th September 2008, a piece of glass had a fault and cracked, the street below was cordoned off for several hours until the matter was resolved.

Says here it was an accident:

http://www.beethamtower.org/manchester/what-happens-when-a-window-breaks-in-the-beetham-tower.html

On the 11th of September 2008 a window was broken following an accident on the 23rd floor of the Beetham Tower in Manchester

And it whistles. It just creeps me out a bit.

From the wiki link:

During the installation of the glass and steel 'blade' architectural feature on the roof, a strange noise problem emerged. People reported that the building "whistles" (more like an intermittent hum) in windy weather. The sound is close to standard musical C (approximately 262 Hertz); some say it is like a "UFO landing" in sci-fi films.

[titan]

Hmmm

The Beetham Tower also boasts several unusual architectural features. Firstly, it is ‘top- heavy’ from the 25th floor upwards as a cantilever juts out an extra four metres making the top half of the building wider than the bottom. The Hilton’s Cloud 23 bar is situated on the first level to jut out the extra four metres and two glass portholes are built into the bar floor, allowing drinkers to look 77 metres straight down to the pavement below, if they feel so inclined

http://www.articleonramp.com/Article.cfm?ID=37429

http://www.dsphotographic.com/g2/16076-3/Beetham+Tower+-+004.jpg

Hilton Hotel 88 ( i don't want to get off track here but the 8 would coincide with the Octagon Freedom Tower...plus the 'Tribute in Lights' having 88 searchlights (911)

[mrmoney]

They're not this clever. This is a clear coincidence of numbers. You could pick any piece of memorabilia with those numbers.

Plus, I think 56 people were killed on 7/7. Not 54.

[titan]

They're not this clever. This is a clear coincidence of numbers. You could pick any piece of memorabilia with those numbers.

Plus, I think 56 people were killed on 7/7. Not 54.

No they're not clever, and no, this is not a coincidence.

There were '52' victims on the day of 7/7.

7 on one tube

7 on the other

26 on the Piccadilly Line

and 13 at the Bus blast site...

a little too neat considering what I'm talking about.

[wchen99]

:)


http://papertrail.candutch.ca/images/__1_52_77_queen_e_post_card02.JPG

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/808

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2518697.0.Unique_monument_unveiled_to_ honour_77_bombing_victims.php

Families of the 52 people killed in the July 7 bombings marked the fourth anniversary of the atrocities by unveiling a commemorative plaque in central London yesterday


You think even if anyone could, and would, plan to kill 52 people exactly, that they could ensure it was 52?

[titan]

You think even if anyone could, and would, plan to kill 52 people exactly, that they could ensure it was 52?

Of course, please see the previous post about victims dying at the BMA fountain dedicated to sacrifice... .with medical supplies? It's not difficult to pull off.

[rodin]

Interesting thread. Friend of mine says stock markets close on occult numbers too.

[rodin]

Book of Jubilees

http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/ot/pseudo/jubilee.htm

[dancing_with_durga]

Yes, a lot of good work here titan, thanks for your efforts. While I do think that some of the numbers quoted are just 'innocent bystanders' caught up in these things, there are clearly patterns swirling around that manifest themselves repeatedly in certain forms at certain times and events. I don't pretend to fully understand numerology, or how this all works exactly, but thinking about it today I was wondering if perhaps we are not looking at this the wrong way round. That the numbers are not simply being used by the perpetrators (or forces) symbolically to mark their handiwork, as an artist signs his pictures, but that the numbers themselves are the thing, and the events that follow are the symbolic aspect. If we think of the matrix idea, or perhaps of computer code, it is the (binary) numbers that are actually what the image on the screen really is, the image itself is merely an abstraction of the numbers. Perhaps the numbers we are seeing as discussed in this thread, are a glimpse behind the curtain of the actual 'machine reality', and everything that follows them is an abstraction designed to work on our five sense reality.

I don't know if that makes sense (I'm not even sure it makes sense to me! :D ) because it is a nebulous idea that I will have to think on further.

[julieray]

Yes, a lot of good work here titan, thanks for your efforts. While I do think that some of the numbers quoted are just 'innocent bystanders' caught up in these things, there are clearly patterns swirling around that manifest themselves repeatedly in certain forms at certain times and events. I don't pretend to fully understand numerology, or how this all works exactly, but thinking about it today I was wondering if perhaps we are not looking at this the wrong way round. That the numbers are not simply being used by the perpetrators (or forces) symbolically to mark their handiwork, as an artist signs his pictures, but that the numbers themselves are the thing, and the events that follow are the symbolic aspect. If we think of the matrix idea, or perhaps of computer code, it is the (binary) numbers that are actually what the image on the screen really is, the image itself is merely an abstraction of the numbers. Perhaps the numbers we are seeing as discussed in this thread, are a glimpse behind the curtain of the actual 'machine reality', and everything that follows them is an abstraction designed to work on our five sense reality.

I don't know if that makes sense (I'm not even sure it makes sense to me! :D ) because it is a nebulous idea that I will have to think on further.

Do you mean more like a calling card each time they commit an atrosity? Yes that does make sense but I also think it does go far deeper than that too. I do think, unbeknown to us that it is making some sort of subliminal connection in our mind's programming locking us into this system of thinking too which is why there are all these events of coincidence, it has to be that way. Does this link into your view above????? I think it does, but you managed to put it in such a technical way that I didn't quite understand??:o

[titan]

Yes, a lot of good work here titan, thanks for your efforts. While I do think that some of the numbers quoted are just 'innocent bystanders' caught up in these things, there are clearly patterns swirling around that manifest themselves repeatedly in certain forms at certain times and events. I don't pretend to fully understand numerology, or how this all works exactly, but thinking about it today I was wondering if perhaps we are not looking at this the wrong way round. That the numbers are not simply being used by the perpetrators (or forces) symbolically to mark their handiwork, as an artist signs his pictures, but that the numbers themselves are the thing, and the events that follow are the symbolic aspect. If we think of the matrix idea, or perhaps of computer code, it is the (binary) numbers that are actually what the image on the screen really is, the image itself is merely an abstraction of the numbers. Perhaps the numbers we are seeing as discussed in this thread, are a glimpse behind the curtain of the actual 'machine reality', and everything that follows them is an abstraction designed to work on our five sense reality.

I don't know if that makes sense (I'm not even sure it makes sense to me! :D ) because it is a nebulous idea that I will have to think on further.

Yes, its very possible Dancing with Durga, and well put btw.

The architectural stuff I feel is no coincidence because of the thought put into a building; well some perhaps, not all, although I put down those here I feel was on purpose, except for the Beetham Tower, until I read that from the 25th floor up is the Hilton, where people can look down 77 feet from the pub.

I have a great example that I'll post later on that could be info telling us who was responsible and what the true story was, rather than the dates and events being specifically engineered by the Illuminati. So it could be that we, as awake people can start to de-code the Matrix ourselves, if you understand lol.

[titan]

Interesting thread. Friend of mine says stock markets close on occult numbers too.

Hello, yes I would agree with that, although it's quite rare from what I've noticed. Although the one with 777 last year on the front of the newspapers was very obvious.


As for symbolism, a 'black swan event' is in your face too in my opionin....meaning, whatever happened was entirely on purpose.

[titan]

Dancing with Durga, this is odd don't you think?

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/03/arts/77000-in-london-hear-rock-stars-make-music-for-human-rights.html

77,000 in London Hear Rock Stars Make Music for Human Rights

A capacity audience of close to 77,000 people packed Wembley for the concert

But for the most part, the musicians made little direct mention of the evening's human-rights message, choosing instead to sing the occasional political song, such as Peter Gabriel's ''Song for Steven Biko,'' a remembrance of the black South African activist who died in police detention in 1977


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Biko

Biko was born in King William's Town

On 11 September, 1977 police loaded him in the back of a Land Rover, naked, and began the 1 500 km drive to Pretoria to take him to a prison with hospital facilities. However, he was nearly dead due to the previous injuries.[6] He died shortly after arrival at the Pretoria prison, on 12 September.

'Gabriel' has certainly made his career out of this :rolleyes:


Singing: September 77

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLg-8Jxi5aE

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5695897982285857904


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fOBnx3nYQ3k/RudlwdXu2II/AAAAAAAAAnE/qQyqlnW5JUM/s400/tombiko.jpg

[drc_]

You think even if anyone could, and would, plan to kill 52 people exactly, that they could ensure it was 52?

I don't really think it matters if there were exactly 52 people killed. Just as long as they bring it that way in the news, and people 'buy into' these numbers.

Remember that the Illuminati own the press/media, so they could write any number of victims they'd like. Who of us was there that day and counted them all..?

But I could be wrong of course. It would be quite possible to have the death count that day at exactly 52. Of course it would take enormous effort and planning and such, but they seem to like that sorta stuff....

[titan]

I don't really think it matters if there were exactly 52 people killed. Just as long as they bring it that way in the news, and people 'buy into' these numbers.

Remember that the Illuminati own the press/media, so they could write any number of victims they'd like. Who of us was there that day and counted them all..?

But I could be wrong of course. It would be quite possible to have the death count that day at exactly 52. Of course it would take enormous effort and planning and such, but they seem to like that sorta stuff....

Hi drc, you're opened minded to this which helps as i have thought along those lines too. It's not as if we know all those people who died that day or their relatives...so it's a definatly possible thinking along those lines.

Yes, it's the number in the public domain that's getting 'charged' by our attention to it...which through by proxy is going to the elite Saxe Coburg Gotha's

As you say, they do like to plan

[titan]

52 British schoolchildren face week in quarantine in Beijing hotel after eight develop swine flu


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200537/52-British-schoolchildren-held-Beijing-hotel-suspected-swine-flu.html#ixzz0Lk4W0TNZ

http://blogs.smh.com.au/sport/beijing-olympics-2008.jpg

[titan]

http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen/fullscreen17.html

to honor the victims of 9/11 - 2001
To honor the citizens who lost their lifes in the World Trade Center attacks, a 6 month anniversary was held with a "Tribute in Light" memorial from March 11th to April 13th 2002. From dusk until 11 p.m. each night two beams of light rose into the sky from a site near Ground Zero.

33 days

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p124221-New_York-Tribute_in_Light.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/507...-the-Queen.html

Mexico's president given George Orwell's 1984 by the Queen
The president of Mexico received one of the more unusual gifts given by the Queen during an incoming state visit today - a copy of the classic dystopian novel 1984.

Published: 5:25PM BST 30 Mar 2009

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4882946.stm

Swan tests confirm deadly virus

The infected bird, a native UK breed, was collected from Cellardyke harbour on 30 March - a day after it was reported by a resident


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6720582.ece

From The Times July 21, 2009

Swan upmanship – Queen is first monarch to count royal lamentation


She has always been thrifty, but until now the Queen’s sound household management has not extended to actually counting her swans. Whether it was the recession, curiosity or just that there is a dwindling number of things she has not done yet, yesterday she became the first monarch in recorded history to take part in the annual Swan Upping ritual on the River Thames

http://www.druidry.org/obod/lore/animal/swan.html

The pure white swan is a solar symbol

The swan, as a symbol of music, is also dedicated to Apollo, who was said to transform into a swan.

Socrates wrote that the swan sung it’s most beautiful song just before it died, leaving us with the phrase swan song.
http://www.oneballradio.com/content/sniffling_royal_swan_0


Fatal Swine Flu Shuts Schools in Mexico, Found in U.S. Cases

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:MoaHX...=clnk&gl=uk

WGNS checked with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, GA and they told us in the past, there were reports of approximately one human swine influenza virus infection every one to two years in the U.S., but from December 2005 through February 2009, 12 cases of human infection with swine influenza have been reported. That all changed this month. In Mexico, there have been 1,400 suspected cases since April 13th. ABC NEWS reports in America that so far well over 40-cases have been reported since the 13th - UPDATED.



http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-.../20080641259872

10:38am UK, Tuesday April 10, 2007

Madonna is to head a star-studded line up at the new Wembley Stadium to highlight the threat of climate change.She will be joined by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Razorlight, Keane, Snow Patrol and Genesis for the Live Earth concert on July 7
Online registration for tickets - which are priced at £55 and are to be allocated by ballot - will open on Friday April 13 and close on April 16.http://www.wembleystadium.com/events/pastevents/madonna.htm

Madonna returns

11th September

last played, Live Earth on 7/7

[howie]

Haymarket, Newcastle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Haymarket

Underground station Built 1977, rebuilt 2009 as Haymarket Hub (88) the new design is based on the London tube.

Metro opened 11 August 1980

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_and_Wear_Metro
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_and_Wear_Metro)

Line length 77.7 km (48.3 mi)

Owned by Nexus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_and_Wear_Passenger_Transport_Executive) it's last director was a Freemason

Jimmy Carter visited nearby Civic Centre in 1977 where Operation Magpie mock bio attack was staged in 2004

In 1999, at a cost of £270,000, a piece of public art consisting of 52 men standing shoulder to shoulder as its name suggests, was installed around the Metro station area of Haymarket, functioning as a fence to section of the heavy traffic from pedestrianised areas. The sculpture incorporated a water feature, which was turned off due to budget constraints

Remember what Blair said on 9/11?

Mr Blair was applauded when he paid tribute to the people of Northern Ireland for supporting the peace process and said he still believed in his post-9/11 claim that Britain’s duty was “be shoulder to shoulder with you”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566711/Tony-Blair-lifts-hearts-in-New-York-speech.html

Angel of the North (Wicker Man) designed by Anthony Gormley 1998

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2513/angele.jpg

Angel of the South (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willow_Man), Bridgewater

The 1605 Gunpowder Plot is thought to have been masterminded by Robert Parsons (Jesuit died on 15 April titanic day), born in the nearby village of Nether Stowey. To this day Guy Fawkes is celebrated as a local hero during the carnival season, including a grand illuminated procession through Bridgwater town centre, which culminates in the Squibbing.

Anthony Gormleys 7/7 Memorial

http://itn.co.uk/dfa66885985231b11a046b49e8ae5c48.html

Artist Antony Gormley has acted as an independent artistic advisor to the project and said: "Using the language of architecture to make order out of chaos, this monument is an opportunity for lost victims to be in contact with the living through a process of discovery, where the memorial's structure becomes complete through the presence and body language of a curious visitor."

Masonic initiates elevated to the 33 degree are given a "jewel" to wear proudly. This jewel is decorated with the sign of three, interlocked triangles, representing both the unholy trinity and the number 666. The jewel is also inscribed with the Latin inscription "Ordo Ab Chao," interpreted as "Order Out of Chaos."

Princess Eugenie is Talk of the toon (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/114645/Princess-Eugenie-is-talk-of-the-toon)

Sarah Ferguson was due to be in the World Trade Center on 9/11 but was held up in traffic, she is the last person to be interviewed on ABC before the first plane crashed. Fergies Little Red toy was recovered from the towers wreckage.

2007 Glasgow "bomb" & Tiger Tiger - Haymarket London

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm)


52 7/7 men at Newcastle Haymarket

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2617/haymarket.jpg

[titan]

Great stuff howie!

Green car! 29th = 11

I can't believe there are 52 stone men! :O

[titan]

'Police have crystal clear video image of car bomber' CC 33

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465068/Police-crystal-clear-video-image-car-bomber.html#ixzz0Mb4J2EHF

Last night as police hunted a new terrorist cell, a massive review of security was under way, with tomorrow's Princess Diana memorial concert at Wembley Stadium, to be attended by Princes William and Harry, a particular concern.
The foiled bombing came just a week before the second anniversary of the Al Qaeda inspired July 7 suicide bombings on London's transport system that left 52 innocent people dead.
A terrorist atrocity had been feared in the days leading up to Tony Blair standing down as Prime Minister but the terrorists chose instead to launch their attack within hours of Gordon Brown taking over at 10 Downing Street.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465068/Police-crystal-clear-video-image-car-bomber.html#ixzz0Mb4fODSb

[titan]

Princess Diana. Born the 1st of July.

1st of July 1969, Prince Charles is crowned Prince of Wales

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/investiture/media/pages/investiture_july_1969_ceremony_01_16x9.shtml

1969 - Northern Ireland, the start of the troubles.

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/history/19691972.html

On August 13th, the Irish Taoiseach Jack Lynch said that the Irish government would not "stand by and see innocent people injured". Some Unionists thought this was a threat to invade Northern Ireland to protect the Catholic population. It is also thought that the Irish began placing troops near the border at this time.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(mythology)

Diana was worshiped at a festival on August 13,[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Northern_Ireland_Riots

The IRA response was to detonate 26 no-warning car bombs within 40 minutes in Belfast on 21 July 1972. 11 people were killed and 130 injured. The day is now known as 'Bloody Friday'.



21st July 2005 bombings. Number 26 to Bethnal Green.

Queen born '26

[titan]

Gerry Adams - released '77

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/he-marched-them-up-to-the-top-of-the-hill-and-he-marched-them-down-agai-n-1570469.html

then he graduated to become OC of the IRA's largest Belfast battalion. In the 10 months under his command, 52 civilians, soldiers and policemen were killed in his operational area.

A former IRA man, Peter McMullen, who knew Adams in those early days, told me in 1983: "As commanding officer he was ultimately responsible for everything which goes on within his battalion area: discipline (i.e. kneecappings and executions), shootings, bombings, and robberies (for fund raising)."

McMullen also says that Adams was involved in the planning of what became Bloody Friday. On 21 July, 1972, the IRA exploded 26 bombs in Belfast, six without warning. Eleven people were killed, 130 injured.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/tim_hames/article550183.ece

ON FRIDAY NIGHT Dolores McNamara, a mother of six from Limerick, discovered that she had won £77 million in the European lottery. About 30 hours earlier two Irishmen from further north, Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, had reason to believe that in another context — that of the the peace process — they would be hitting a political jackpot.

[howie]

Exercise Magpie 28 April 2004

Anti-terror exercise held to test city's reaction to attack

From the Northern Echo, first published Thursday 29th Apr 2004.

A TERRORIST attack on Newcastle city centre yesterday left 14 dead and 29 people injured. Emergency services were called after deadly Sarin gas was pumped into the city council's ventilation system as 200 people attended a packed public meeting.

Members of the audience collapsed and were left gasping for air after the nerve agent attack in the banqueting hall.

But don't panic, it was not for real.

28 April

Workers' Memorial Day, International Workers' Memorial Day or International Commemoration Day (ICD) for Dead and Injured takes place annually around the world on April 28, an international day of remembrance and action for workers killed, disabled, injured or made unwell by their work


999 workers simulate bio-terror attack

Emergency services have taken part in an exercise to test their response to global terrorism after "extremists" launched a biological attack.

Fire crews in protective chemical suits and police in gas masks were at the scene of the mock attack within minutes. More than 200 people took part in the exercise at Newcastle Civic Centre.

Outside the centre, where volunteers had been attending a lecture, decontamination areas were set up to deal with the incident, modelled on the deadly Sarin poison gas strike in Tokyo in 1995.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1460479/999-workers-simulate-bio-terror-attack.html
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1460479/999-workers-simulate-bio-terror-attack.html)

Similar terror drills have been staged in Liverpool, Glasgow & Manchester prior to 7/7.

Oklahomas highway 77

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2171/oklahoma.jpg

The building, named for federal judge Alfred P. Murrah an Oklahoma native, opened on March 2, 1977


I am trying to find the link between T-M 9/11 and waco.
I am sure there is a link. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70099)

Demolished on May 23 1995 by Controlled Demolition Inc

May 23 is the 143rd day of the year (144th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 222 days remaining until the end of the year.

September 11 is the 254th day of the year (255th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 111 days remaining until the end of the year.

:eek:

The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster occurred on February 1, 2003

February 1 is the 32nd day of the year in the Gregorian calendar. There are 333 days remaining until the end of the year

[titan]

Hi, and Mcvey made his getaway in a '77 Mercury Marquis....MM 26

He was 26 years old at the time.

Executed aged 33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

The operator of the Dreamland Motel testified that two Ryder trucks had been parked outside her Grandview Plaza motel where McVeigh stayed in Room 26 the weekend before the bombing.

On June 13, 1997, the jury recommended that McVeigh receive the death penalty

On April 26, 2001 he wrote a letter to Fox News, I Explain Herein Why I Bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, which explicitly laid out his reasons for the attack.[6

The bombing killed 168 people, and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks[citation needed]. He was convicted of 11 federal offenses, sentenced to death, and executed on June 11, 2001.

[richanpoor]

I love this thread! good work so far guys. Here is what I came up with a while ago after looking at this stuff.

Was the 7/7 bus bombing to celebrate the birth of a male heir in the Russell/Duke of Bedford dynasty?

Henry Robin Charles Russell, Marquess of Tavistock (born June 7, 2005) is the second child, only son and heir apparent of Andrew Ian Henry Russell, 15th Duke of Bedford and his wife, Louise Crammond. He has a sister, Lady Alexandra Russell. Because his father is the Duke of Bedford he uses the courtesy title of Marquess of Tavistock. His future title, 16th Duke - 1 + 6 = 7. The 7/7 bombings occured 30 days after his birth.

The ancestral home is Woburn Abbey, maybe a link to Luton, where the alleged bombers joined the train?


Some other interesting stuff.
there is also the link to 77 Great Russell Street from an ex-head of Mossad.

from Jerusalem Post 07/07/05
“I doubt whether the planners knew that one of the target areas, that in Russell Square, was within a stone’s throw of a building that served as the first headquarters of the World Zionist Organization that preceded the State of Israel.” Efraim Halevi, who heads the ‘Center for Strategic and Policy Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, is a former head of the Mossad.

the bus bomb exploded just outside Woburn House, which used to house both London's
Jewish Museum and the chief rabbi's office. (This is on the corner of
Upper Woburn Place and Tavistock Square, opposite the BMA [former
Theosophical] HQ).

The Duke and Duchess of Bedford open Russell House, Kelly College - [09/11/2002]

Kelly College, to the north-east of the town of Tavistock, was founded by Admiral Benedictus Marwood Kelly, and opened in 1877 for the education of his descendants and the orphan sons of naval officers. An offer from the Duke of Bedford of a most attractive 20-acre site near Tavistock on the edge of Dartmoor was accepted and the College remains there to this day.

from Bond film Tommorow Never Dies 1997 - HMS Bedford is the flagship of the British fleet which is sent to the South China Sea in response to Devonshire's supposed sinking by China. It is unusual that a frigate would be the flagship like this, and indeed it appears to be the only ship in the British fleet! On board the Bedford is Admiral Kelly, who appears to be in command of the fleet. When the true nature of the situation is revealed Bedford is responsible for destroying the stealth ship, and then attempting to locate Bond and Wai Lin.

[titan]

Hi richanpoor

interesting research from you there!

It looks like it has many layers which means it's overseen by the lower fourth, underworld, the time lords.....call them what you will.

But it's as if its keeps the mesh of the matrix together....negativity at sites, numbers, bloodlines (holding on to their silver spoon birth and re-incarnation while sacrificing for their reptialian masters) under the guise of positve actions....like Carter and Blair from Howie's research....

All very interesting.

An update and article on some of the stuff covered here:


http://www.oneballradio.com/node/866

[titan]

2003 Mumbai Bombing: Indian Court Finds 3 Guilty

stumble reddit del.ico.us ShareThisRAJESH SHAH | 07/27/09 08:25 AM |

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/2003-mumbai-bombing-india_n_245238.html

MUMBAI, India — An Indian court on Monday found two Muslim men and a woman guilty in twin bombings that killed 52 people and wounded 100 in the country's financial capital, Mumbai, six years ago.

Sacrifice site:

http://www.thermorocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gateway_of_india.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_of_India

The Gateway of India (Marathi: भारताचे प्रवेशद्वार) is a monument in Mumbai (formerly Bombay), India. Located on the waterfront in Apollo Bunder area in South Mumbai, the Gateway is a basalt arch 26 metres

The Gateway of India was built to commemorate the visit of King George V and Queen Mary to Bombay, prior to the Delhi Durbar, in December 1911.

India's gateway becomes terrorism's door
The terrorists who hit Mumbai attacked India's economy, its tourism and its internationalism.
By Shashi Tharoor
November 28, 2008

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-oe-tharoor28-2008nov28,0,6373231.story[/url]

Commentators in the U.S. have pronounced the carnage India's 9/11.

[howie]

Princess Eugenie had a narrow escape from the Mumbai terror attack, while she was on a trip to India, according to reports.

The Queens 18-year-old granddaughter had left the city just four days before the attacks.

It is believed that she visited the Oberoi Hotel and the Leopold cafe where the massacre began.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/princess-eugenies-narrow-escape-from-mumbai-massacre_100125688.html

The York family have a habit of surviving terror attacks.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0201/08/lkl.00.html
(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0201/08/lkl.00.html)

She also has a new book out called "Energy Breakthrough." There you see its cover. "Jumpstart Your Weight Loss And Feel Great." We'll talk about that as well. Lots of things to talk about with the Dutchess of York.

How goes it? Are you more chipper now than last time?

SARAH FERGUSON, LOST OFFICES IN WTC: Doing OK. Last time I was running late, wasn't I, in the traffic.

KING: And also, you were recovering, is what you were all about here. Will you briefly explain for those who didn't see the last program what your connection with the World Trade Center was?

FERGUSON: Well, Howard Lutnick from Cantor Fitzgerald has been so kind to us for many many years. In fact, he gives us an office in New York on the 101st floor.


KING: By the way, did you know any of the British citizens killed at the World Trade Center?

FERGUSON: No, I didn't.

KING: Many were killed.

FERGUSON: Many were killed. But also, we had a lot of people that volunteered their services to help us. And so we lost -- we were all really part of the same thing. Because Samantha and her sister -- it is just -- unfathomable to think what happened.

KING: The famous doll story, too. They found the doll in the street.

FERGUSON: Well, you know, the fact that she survived said to me that Little Red -- how is it that my doll, for Chances For Children, she's a symbol of the charity.

KING: There's the famous picture of the fireman finding her. Did you think that was an omen?

FERGUSON: I did, Larry. You know, a lot of people would say, sure, you know, but I do, I really believe that it said to me, and I get Chances For Children up and running and get on an do more work and make sure you can give children a right to a healthy life.

KING: You said after the attacks you were energized. Can you explain that? Most people, you would think, would be deflated.

FERGUSON: Well, it's the way of turning a negative into a positive, Larry.

KING: That's easy to say, hard to do.

Prince Andrew had a lucky escape in the Falklands too.

http://en.mercopress.com/2001/06/12/prince-andrew-talks-of-his-dangerous-falklands-experiences

[titan]

:0

Thanks Howie.

They are just beyond the pale these..whatever they are...

The 'energy' naming of the book was not lost on me (which you highllighted) and then to read on to her actually saying she was 'energised' after the attack.

Well that, says it all that....

[titan]

Hey Howie, how about this one? Karma?

I'm of the opinion that in the future, if the awakening strengthens, then us being receiver transmitters will produce enough positive energy to challenge the negativity to create harmony..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8055637.stm

Hundreds of people have been evacuated after a fire broke out in the basement of the headquarters of the European Commission in Brussels, officials say.

A BBC correspondent near the Berlaymont building saw thick smoke pouring from the roof. A dozen fire engines rushed to the scene, along with ambulances.

Brussels firefighters say the fire was confined to a vertical shaft housing cables. It spread up from the basement.

Nobody was hurt and the evacuation was orderly, a commission spokesman said.

The blaze began at about 1250 local time (1050 GMT). It was most intense on the 13th floor, but did not spread to offices, a spokesman for the fire service said.
The Berlaymont, a four-pronged glass and steel structure in central Brussels, has 18 floors and offices for some 3,000 EU officials. The commission, the EU's executive arm, drafts EU laws.


I could see the smoke in the corridors, and about 20 minutes later people were told verbally to leave the building. But there was no fire alarm

The alarm was first sounded on the 13th floor, and commission President Jose Manuel Barroso was working there at the time, commission spokesman Johannes Laitenberger told reported.



Could be on purpose....or it might be karma. Interesting though.

[titan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/europe/2095015.stm

1st July. Diana Spencer's birth

Prosecutors in Germany and Switzerland have begun legal proceedings to determine whether negligence was responsible for the crash. They are both expected to question Skyguide.

The disaster has prompted German Transport Minister Kurt Bodewig to renew calls for an integrated European Union air traffic control system.

The European Commission has already announced plans for an integrated system, but these are opposed by trade unions who fear job losses and say safety standards could be compromised.


http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-126054/Did-pilots-error-kill-52-children.html

Did pilot's error kill 52 children?

Among the questions they will want to know is why traffic controllers did not instruct Captain Phillips, a 47-year-old father of three, and his Canadian co-pilot to change course earlier when the Tu 154 failed to respond. Russian aviationofficials dismissed reports that pilot Alexander Gross, 52, spoke poor English

[titan]

http://topnews.in/files/Prince-Harry_3.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Henry_of_Wales

He served for 77 days on the front line in the Afghan War,[2] although he was pulled out after an American news aggregation website, The Drudge Report, revealed his presence

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1580336/Matt-Drudge-expresses-no-regret-for-Prince-Harry-report.html

"They're calling him 'Harry the Hero!'" he proclaimed in a rare dispatch of his own which he left up on the page for many hours.

"British Royal Prince Harry has been fighting in Afghanistan since late December - and has been directly involved in battle," he added in the report, which stunned newsrooms across the world on Thursday.


Load of media bollocks that. :rolleyes:

[rodin]

Titan you and Mark Gobell from the UK911 board should get together. He is forever finding out numerical connections.

[rodin]

Some other interesting stuff.
there is also the link to 77 Great Russell Street from an ex-head of Mossad.

from Jerusalem Post 07/07/05
“I doubt whether the planners knew that one of the target areas, that in Russell Square, was within a stone’s throw of a building that served as the first headquarters of the World Zionist Organization that preceded the State of Israel.” Efraim Halevi, who heads the ‘Center for Strategic and Policy Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, is a former head of the Mossad.

the bus bomb exploded just outside Woburn House, which used to house both London's Jewish Museum and the chief rabbi's office. (This is on the corner of
Upper Woburn Place and Tavistock Square, opposite the BMA [former
Theosophical] HQ).

All of the above is crucially important to this ritual murder.

When you consider Nethenyahu was in the vicinity, and that Blatavsky ie Theosophy and British Israel and the One World Rule planned from Jerusalem are fundamental resonances of this Satanic conspiracy of the lowest order.

Oh - that and an Israeli Verint security company running the security cameras and probably in with Guliani on Peter Power's 'exercise'

Incidentally why did PP formerly of dodgy Dorset police go so public on 77? Was it revelation of the method or second thoughts about soul selling?

[dancing_with_durga]

Incidentally why did PP formerly of dodgy Dorset police go so public on 77? Was it revelation of the method or second thoughts about soul selling?

Or was he not quite in the loop and just blurt it out by mistake? He certainly doesn't want to talk about since...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tzNXKUL-Q
.

[rodin]

Or was he not quite in the loop and just blurt it out by mistake? He certainly doesn't want to talk about since...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tzNXKUL-Q
.

He had one chance and he took it. Then it was mitigate by denial or the family gets it

edit

It was no mistake. Twice same story with somewhat unusual language = script. The hair on the back of my neck was standing upright. I bet it was if he was not expecting it, but he must have twigged

[dancing_with_durga]

there is also the link to 77 Great Russell Street from an ex-head of Mossad.

from Jerusalem Post 07/07/05
“I doubt whether the planners knew that one of the target areas, that in Russell Square, was within a stone’s throw of a building that served as the first headquarters of the World Zionist Organization that preceded the State of Israel.” Efraim Halevi, who heads the ‘Center for Strategic and Policy Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, is a former head of the Mossad.

the bus bomb exploded just outside Woburn House, which used to house both London's
Jewish Museum and the chief rabbi's office. (This is on the corner of
Upper Woburn Place and Tavistock Square, opposite the BMA [former
Theosophical] HQ).




It was also the venue of the London Zionist Congress in 1889, where for the time in public, a statement was issued saying that the Zionist intention was to create a Jews only state in Palestine called Israel.
.

[howie]

Australian PM John Howard was in London on 7/7 & in Washington on 9/11.

The M77 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M77_motorway) motorway was constructed between 1977-2005.

11-11

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/57/m77.png

On The Buses TV Series ran for 74 episodes, 3 movie versions were made

74+3 = 77

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9718/onthebuses.jpg

No.13

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3161/onthebuses13.jpg


The Number 7 Bus

A serious incident occurred on 13 June 1957, when a RTL-type bus (RTL780) on route 7A, whose driver had collapsed from "heat exhaustion", ran into a queue of waiting passengers on Oxford Street, killing eight people.

1966 - The day of the World Cup final

On 30 July 1966, a Routemaster bus (RM1768), which had been in service on route 7, but was running empty back to the depot, caught fire at Marble Arch and was totally burnt out. This led to headlines in the London evening newspapers "The day a no 7 caught fire" and "End of the road for a no 7 bus".


BMA Building

The logo of the BMA includes a stylised version of the rod of Asclepius, associated with Asclepius, the Greek god of healing.

It consists of a serpent entwined around a staff. The name of the symbol derives from its early and widespread association with Asclepius, the son of Apollo, who was a practitioner of medicine in ancient Greek mythology. His attributes, the snake and the staff, sometimes depicted separately in antiquity, are combined in this symbol.[2] The Rod of Asclepius also represents the constellation Ophiuchus (or Ophiuchus Serpentarius), the thirteenth sign of the sidereal zodiac.

Gordon Brown has paid tribute to the courage of the driver of the double decker bus which was ripped apart in last week's terror attacks on London.

George Psaradakis, 49, received a standing ovation

"The Greek-born bus driver, who moved to London in 1972"

7 x 7 = 49


The Number 171 Bus

Today's 171 was introduced on 6 April 1952 at Stage 7 of London Transport's post-war "Tram to Buses" conversion scheme to replace Kingsway Subway Tram route 33

The route number 171 had been used twice prior to its current use.

There were also in London:

* Between 8 April 1925 and 7 July 1925 for a Monday to Friday Wimbledon (Prince of Wales <to> North Cheam (Queen Victoria) via Morden route 171A.



Tuesday, 20 February 1996

An IRA terrorist was killed and a suspected accomplice was seriously injured when a bomb accidentally exploded on a double-decker bus in central London on Sunday evening, it emerged yesterday.

The home-made device, which is understood to contain about 4lb of Semtex high explosive, is believed to have gone off as a terrorist was priming it for detonation or when he dislodged a safety pin. Police believe the intended target was a site nearby in the West End.

Two people were arrested yesterday morning under the Prevention of Terrorism Act following information obtained from the site of the explosion.

Eight people were injured in the blast at 10.38pm on Sunday, which ripped the red number 171 bus to shreds as it reached the Aldwych.


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7/1996171busbomb.jpg

Exploded near Tavistock St

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9165/1996buswellington.jpg

[titan]

British Mandate For Palestine

http://www.icsresources.org/content/factsh...tishmandate.pdf

In an effort to pacify the Arab community, the British increased the restrictions on Jewish immigration to Palestine, until it was virtually halted with the British White Paper of 1939. This was in intolerable to the Jewish residents because it closed a crucial escape route for Jews fleeing Nazi Europe.

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_..._2/balfour.html

The British Foreign Secretary, Arthur James Balfour, wrote to Jewish leader Lord Rothshild, to assure him that his government supported the ideal of providing a homeland for the Jews. The British hoped thereby to win more Jewish support for the Allies in the First World War. The "Balfour Declaration" became the basis for international support for the founding of the modern state of Israel. The letter was published a week later in The Times of London as reproduced here.


Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild:

I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:

His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge
of the Zionist Federation.

Yours,
Arthur James Balfour
White Paper of 1922

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_whitepaper_1922.php

The 1922 White Paper (also called the Churchill White Paper, after Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill) was the first official manifesto from the British Government interpreting the Balfour Declaration and the Palestine Mandate. It was issued on June 3, 1922, after investigation of the Arab riots of 1920-1921. Although Churchill's name is associated with the paper, it was largely influenced by the High Commissioner for Palestine, Sir Herbert Samuel.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=291605

Another interesting theory is that the terrorists chose that date
because of the date's significance to Palestine:

"The Oaths of office for the High Commissioner and Commander in Chief
for Palestine were administered at Jerusalem on September 11, 1922. So
that is 9-11-22 when the British Mandate for Palestine was officially
begun with the swearing in oath.

In the video, bin Laden said this:

When the sword reached America after 80 years...

1922 to 2001 is 79 years, but perhaps that is the 80 years he refers to."

Free Republic: Why 911 - September 11 1922 British mandate of Palestine begins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/543320/posts

"The Economist Oct. 15, 2001 edition about the attack on the World
Trade Center and Pentagon, noting 'the day a British mandate came into
force in Palestine, over the heads of unyielding Arab opposition,'
quoted from a dispatch from Jerusalem to London's The Times of
1922.'"The Arabs declared a day of mourning throughout the city and
the shops were closed as a protest against today's formal proclamation
of the Mandate, but no Jews were molested.' - The day was September
11."



The 80 years? A mistake from Bin Laden? No, I think he knew exactly what he was talking about.

http://nbcsportsmedia4.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060209/060209_esb_dogshow_vlrg.widec.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2026783.stm

New York paid its own special tribute to the Queen on Tuesday evening when the landmark Empire State Building was lit up for several hours in special jubilee royal purple and gold

But New Yorkers have not forgotten the Queen's decision two days after their city was attacked on 11 September to have the American national anthem played at the Changing of the Guard


September the 13th 2001, Buckingham Palace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0

[rodin]

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9165/1996buswellington.jpg

Wellington Street eh?

Waterloo was where Nat Rothschild completed his purchase of Britain

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

[rodin]

The 80 years? A mistake from Bin Laden? No, I think he knew exactly what he was talking about.

Which video - the fatty bin Laden one?

[titan]

Which video - the fatty bin Laden one?

Yes, he was a fatty 'bin laden' on that video. Considering it was one big brainwashing exercise then it could be do with the was he 'dying from kidney disease' or not argument. If he was, he couldn't make the video.

Although it's the transcript of the Bin Laden's alleged 'we did it' that I'm pointing out. 80 years would bring us to 2002 - the Queens Jubilee.

[titan]

Australian PM John Howard was in London on 7/7 & in Washington on 9/11.

The M77 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M77_motorway) motorway was constructed between 1977-2005.

11-11

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/57/m77.png

On The Buses TV Series ran for 74 episodes, 3 movie versions were made

74+3 = 77

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9718/onthebuses.jpg

No.13

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3161/onthebuses13.jpg


The Number 7 Bus

A serious incident occurred on 13 June 1957, when a RTL-type bus (RTL780) on route 7A, whose driver had collapsed from "heat exhaustion", ran into a queue of waiting passengers on Oxford Street, killing eight people.

1966 - The day of the World Cup final

On 30 July 1966, a Routemaster bus (RM1768), which had been in service on route 7, but was running empty back to the depot, caught fire at Marble Arch and was totally burnt out. This led to headlines in the London evening newspapers "The day a no 7 caught fire" and "End of the road for a no 7 bus".


BMA Building

The logo of the BMA includes a stylised version of the rod of Asclepius, associated with Asclepius, the Greek god of healing.

It consists of a serpent entwined around a staff. The name of the symbol derives from its early and widespread association with Asclepius, the son of Apollo, who was a practitioner of medicine in ancient Greek mythology. His attributes, the snake and the staff, sometimes depicted separately in antiquity, are combined in this symbol.[2] The Rod of Asclepius also represents the constellation Ophiuchus (or Ophiuchus Serpentarius), the thirteenth sign of the sidereal zodiac.



"The Greek-born bus driver, who moved to London in 1972"

7 x 7 = 49


The Number 171 Bus

Today's 171 was introduced on 6 April 1952 at Stage 7 of London Transport's post-war "Tram to Buses" conversion scheme to replace Kingsway Subway Tram route 33

The route number 171 had been used twice prior to its current use.

There were also in London:

* Between 8 April 1925 and 7 July 1925 for a Monday to Friday Wimbledon (Prince of Wales <to> North Cheam (Queen Victoria) via Morden route 171A.




http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7/1996171busbomb.jpg

Exploded near Tavistock St

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9165/1996buswellington.jpg

Great research there howie

[titan]

And this too Howie:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=60608

On the Buses: The Complete First Series

52-year-old Reg Varney playing Stan Butler

[howie]

The first On The Buses movie was shown this month on 7/7 on ITV3.


I found this strange photo in the express archive from 8 July 2005

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2094/dsta2005070801554001lar.jpg

the full shot

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3177/dexp2005070801111001lar.jpg


Peter Power & WPC Yvonne Fletcher 1984

The interview brings up a number of interesting facts about a Mr Peter Power who was also involved in a number of other serious incidents on the London Underground, and was also a commander at the time of the Libyan Embassy seige which resulted in the assassination of a London police woman which was falsely blamed on Libya. This led to breaking relations between Libya and Britain to the detriment of the two peoples.

The policewoman named Yvonne Fletcher was fatally shot in St.James Square in London by a bullet which was claimed to have been fired from the Libyan Embassy. This created a massive backlash of hatred towards the Libyans by Westerners, yet it has been proven now by forensic examinations that the bullets which killed WPC Fletcher could not have been fired from the Libyan Embassy, but from another building in St.James Square.

watch from 7 minutes http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497417972412615851

April 1984 - a protester is holding a sign marked 7 7

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3688/77yvonnefletcher.jpg

G20 2009

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6533/77mi5diditdanielg202009.jpg

[titan]

Mmm...that's interesting. Just skimming the now, but is that a mock protest in 1984 for the programme or was it for real? About the Yvonne Fletcher murder??

[titan]

In 2008, in that year only, for 3 months - The Queens Banquet in Buckingham Palace open to the (paying) public. July 29th (11) to September 29th (11)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1039063/As-Queen-opens-Palace-Ballroom-public-story-decadent-royal-banquet-ever.html

http://janeaustensworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/state-banquet-room-buckinham-palace.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/2457467/Royal-seal-of-approval-for-state-banquet-exhibition.html

Royal seal of approval for state banquet exhibition

A unique exhibition which recreates the splendour of a glittering Buckingham Palace state banquet has been given the royal seal of approval

During her reign 77 state banquets have been held at Buckingham Palace, 18 at Windsor Castle and two at the Palace of Holyroodhouse in Scotland

March's state banquet at Windsor Castle for French president Nicolas Sarkozy was the 97th hosted by the Queen since her accession to the throne in 1952

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641310643

11:00pm UK, Wednesday March 26, 2008


Dr Who 'rose' , first aired on March the 26th 2005, showed a blown up double decker bus. (can't find any pics)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(Doctor_Who)

Bus scene filmed in Wales, outside Queens Arcade (mock up of London)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/sites/doctorwholoc_s1e1/pages/s1e1_queens_arcade.shtml

The opening montage of this episode features many contemporary advertisements and products. A poster on a route 14 bus advertises The Lion King musical


The new series was complemented by a 13-part documentary series, Doctor Who Confidential,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41328000/jpg/_41328645_pg_bus_getty1.jpg
July 2005


State Banquet, Buckingham Palace 2009....after the 77th. President of Mexico

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/4X7RvfsIfzu/President+Felipe+Calderon+Margarita+Zavala/POfkVL1F4a5/Prince+Philip

The Queen gave him as a gift, the book '1984'

http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/pics/1984/1984-signet1981.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adk1ujjmguo

[titan]

Doctor's double decker wrecker

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00719/DR-WHO-682_719948a.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article2180361.ece

DOCTOR Who is in chaos after a classic bus being used for filming was EXTERMINATED

But a crane operator managed to "total" the second 1980 Bristol VR model while unloading it in Dubai docks.

Planet Of The Dead


The bus in question. Victoria 200

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2009/01/30/bus1.jpg

I realise that 200 did not die during the Victoria bushfires, but the toll did stay at 209 offically for a while. And this is on the Prince of Wales website.

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/newsandgallery/news/prince_william_and_prince_harry_visit_australia_ho use_in_lon_1793689857.html

Prince William and Prince Harry visit Australia House in London in the wake of the Victorian bushfires

John Dauth thanked Prince William and Prince Harry for signing a book of condolence for those killed in the terrible fires that tore through the state of Victoria earlier this month claiming more than 200 lives



Personally I think it's about '200' years of Victory. Charles Darwin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/12/2489493.htm

Posted Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:29am AEDT


Police have arrested two people in relation to suspicious activity in the aftermath of Victoria's deadly bushfires.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin

Charles Robert Darwin FRS (12 February 1809 200 years

http://evolutionaustralia.org.au/

Welcome

2009 marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin and the 150th anniversary of the publication of The Origin of Species, which sparked a scientific, artistic, social and spiritual revolution


Look on the left hand side of this link. You will see the front page of the Telegraph, Australia.

'Hottest Place on the Planet'...47c (11) on February the 6th ( the date of the Queens ascension to the throne in '52)

http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/australia-summer-heatwave/index.htm


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25032944-5018722,00.html

Team of 77 experts to identify Victoria bushfire victims

[rodin]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1162258&postcount=1709

Some interesting numbers maybe

[eternal_spirit]

Death of kaffirs by a Muslim suicide Bomber will reward them in heaven with 72 mansions with 72 rooms with 72 virgins -
72 (7+2) = 9
72 (7+2) =9
72 (7+2) =9
= 999 = reversed 666 :eek:

:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=17185&dateline=1235594687 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=17185)

The symbol to me looks like a eclipse a sun with a moon in front plus a inverted pentagram (probably Venus which ties to Lucifer) fallen angel Satan!

Hence moon shadow, sun, moon and Venus/Lucifer worship. Some claim Baphomet is (Mahomet)
= Mohammed. Hermaphrodite, yes they say there's a man in the moon



Although more likley followers of
Baphomet "Goat of Mendes". Mahomet aka "Muhammed".


http://www.hailsatan.co.uk/Images/baphomet.png

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_002/baphomet.gif


United Press International
October 10, 1986
MOSLEMS IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE


Mixed in with Queen Elizabeth's blue blood is the blood of the Moslem prophet Mohammed, according to Burke's Peerage, the geneological guide to royalty. The relation came out when Harold B. Brooks-Baker, publishing director of Burke's, wrote Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to ask for better security for the royal family. ''The royal family's direct descent from the prophet Mohammed cannot be relied upon to protect the royal family forever from Moslem terrorists,'' he said. Probably realizing the connection would be a surprise to many, he added, ''It is little known by the British people that the blood of Mohammed flows in the veins of the queen. However, all Moslem religious leaders are proud of this fact.''

Brooks-Baker said the British royal family is descended from Mohammed through the Arab kings of Seville, who once ruled Spain. By marriage, their blood passed to the European kings of Portugal and Castille, and through them to England's 15th century King Edward IV. 'Quote:
''It is little known by the British people that the blood of Mohammed flows in the veins of the queen. However, all Moslem religious leaders are proud of this fact.'' Right so if she is, then anyone of the Prophet's bloodline/relatives would be considered divine/holy etc and a rightfull ruler/leader.

[howie]

Doctor Who episode 1 Rose first shown 26 March 2005 - 3 months 11 days before 7/7


http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4121/77doctorwhorose3.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5196/77doctorwhorose1.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1935/77doctorwhorose2.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4679/77doctorwhorose5.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7391/77doctorwhorose6.jpg

'R' registered Yellow VW Beetle made in 1977

N 01 August 1974 31 July 1975
P 01 August 1975 31 July 1976
R 01 August 1976 31 July 1977
S 01 August 1977 31 July 1978

[howie]

Just watched 7/7 Anomalies released today on youtube

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7539/77anomaliespt4.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5441/77anomaliespt4a.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3227/77danielbandageman.jpg

This is Daniels 'bandage man'

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2094/dsta2005070801554001lar.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3177/dexp2005070801111001lar.jpg

another thing I missed from the Conspiracy Files was the Kingstar manager saying the van doors were caved in by the blast. There is no damage to the van doors in the Tavistock photos.

& why are the headlights switched on?

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5324/77anomaliespt5.jpg

[titan]

Howie I am loving your work. Way to go exposing this. The 'eye' on the internet...:eek: and the rest.

Funny, I actually watched 'rose' this morning (few distractions) but I wouldn't have thought of checking the 'beatle' year...if anything it made me think of scarab beetle at the time.

Cheers for going to the trouble linking photos off the episode 'rose' itself. I appreciate it.

:cool:

p.s ....any ideas why you tube vids disappear from posts after they get posted?

[titan]

http://www.jdilair.com/page26/files/page26_blog_entry18_summary_1.jpg

'Rose' Tyler


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_(Masonic)

Tyler (or Tiler) is the name of the office of outer guard of a Masonic Lodge. Early speculative Masonic lodges met in rooms in taverns and other public meeting places, and all Lodges appoint a Tyler to guard the door from unqualified, malicious or simply curious people

[howie]

Howie I am loving your work. Way to go exposing this. The 'eye' on the internet...:eek: and the rest.

Funny, I actually watched 'rose' this morning (few distractions) but I wouldn't have thought of checking the 'beatle' year...if anything it made me think of scarab beetle at the time.

Cheers for going to the trouble linking photos off the episode 'rose' itself. I appreciate it.

:cool:

p.s ....any ideas why you tube vids disappear from posts after they get posted?

I'd never seen that Doctor Who till you mentioned it, I'll have to get the whole series now & see what other little sick jokes the BBC have inserted in there.

Tyler is also the name of the character in Life on Mars - not as symbolic as Ashes to Ashes but the US version was set in New York with fake Twin Towers & lots of references to 9/11.

Whoever made the 7/7 anomalies video did an excellent job ;) everyone should see this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ConspiracyTVUK

There are more (rachel?) North references in that Dr Who, Chris Eccleston from Our friends in the north (with Daniel Craig 007) & Noel Clarke from Auf Weidersehen Pet. everything points to the next attacks being staged in the North (Glasgow, Newcastle & Manchester), the Trafford shopping centre is filled with egyptian art, domes, pyramids, phalluses & has 7 trumpeters in the entrance.

[titan]

I'd never seen that Doctor Who till you mentioned it, I'll have to get the whole series now & see what other little sick jokes the BBC have inserted in there.

Tyler is also the name of the character in Life on Mars - not as symbolic as Ashes to Ashes but the US version was set in New York with fake Twin Towers & lots of references to 9/11.

Whoever made the 7/7 anomalies video did an excellent job ;) everyone should see this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ConspiracyTVUK

There are more (rachel?) North references in that Dr Who, Chris Eccleston from Our friends in the north (with Daniel Craig 007) & Noel Clarke from Auf Weidersehen Pet. everything points to the next attacks being staged in the North (Glasgow, Newcastle & Manchester), the Trafford shopping centre is filled with egyptian art, domes, pyramids, phalluses & has 7 trumpeters in the entrance.

yes, i noticed that too Howie...about the 'North' I just didn't know what was significant about it..however, Dr Who's writer, T Russell, well Eccleston previously starred as the 'son of God' in Russell's 'The Second Coming'...Jesus from the North ....symbolically a scottish educated Prince William?


I'm going to watch that 7/7 anomalies video.

I noticed from googling that the original Dr Who ran for 26 series for 26 years...1963 - 1989.

[Ian2day]

It was timed for the G8 so as to exploit the other World leaders into supporting the War on terror. Remember that collective statement, which was released at the press conference, with all of them present. No way would they dare to not support the war, when being hosted by a country that had just been a victim of terrorism.

[titan]

Hi, thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Talking about G8. The Queen's dress looks like red grapes to me. Isn't this communicating she's the high ranker through blood line? Communicated by the 'vine'? I'm sure I've read that in David Icke somewhere.

http://www.g7.utoronto.ca/photos/summits/gleneagles-05-queen.jpg

[titan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39912000/jpg/_39912098_k9_bbc.jpg

K-9


11 9


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/pda/A1106687?s_id=6

K9 made his first television appearance in the 1977 story 'The Invisible Enemy'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

Sirius is also known colloquially as the "Dog Star", reflecting its prominence in its constellation, Canis Major (English: Big Dog

[julieray]

Hi, thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Talking about G8. The Queen's dress looks like red grapes to me. Isn't this communicating she's the high ranker through blood line? Communicated by the 'vine'? I'm sure I've read that in David Icke somewhere.

http://www.g7.utoronto.ca/photos/summits/gleneagles-05-queen.jpg

The queen's dress looks the same as the carpet!:)

[titan]

julieray:)

it looks bloody and manky to me....a bit like the arses above it:D

[titan]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/The_Timelords-_Doctorin%27_The_Tardis_(UK_CDV).jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_KLF


Also credited on the record was "Ford Timelord", Cauty's 1968 Ford Galaxie American police car (claimed to have been used in the film Superman IV filmed in the UK). Drummond and Cauty declared that the car had spoken to them, giving its name as Ford Timelord, and advising the duo to become "The Timelords".

Call the police - 911



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-1-1

In 1967, the President's Commission on Law Enforcement and Administration of Justice recommended the creation of a single number that could be used nationwide for reporting emergencies.[11] The burden then fell on the Federal Communications Commission, which then met with AT&T in November, 1967 in order to come up with a solution.

In 1968, a solution was agreed upon. AT&T chose to copy the Canadian concept, but with a different emergency number, 9-1-1,

[titan]

http://gbamedia.gamespy.com/gba/image/article/707/707533/superman-returns-the-videogame-20060510071711698.jpg

Richard Branson had a bit part in Superman Returns playing himself as the Shuttle Engineer on Shuttle 777

Christopher Reeve (original Superman) born '52 dies aged 52

http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.ddJFKRNoFiG/b.4431483/

Since 1976, he was actively involved with Save the Children, Amnesty International, Natural Resources Defense Council, The Environmental Air Force and America’s Watch. In 1987, he demonstrated in Santiago, Chile on behalf of 77 actors threatened with execution by the Pinochet regime. For this action, Reeve was given a special Obie Award in 1988 and the annual award from the Walter Briehl Human Rights Foundation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

The Chilean coup d'état of 1973 is a landmark in the history of Chile and the Soviet-American Cold War. On 11 September 1973, the government of President Salvador Allende was overthrown by the military in a coup d’état

A military junta took control of the government, with the original plan of power being rotated between the heads of the Air Force, Navy, Carabineros (Chilean police force) and the Army lead by General Augusto Pinochet.

[yass]

titan, awesome thread. I just really enjoy it. I thought I'd add the bit about the SARS outbreak, when Professor Liu Jianlun had checked into room 911 at the Metropole Hotel in Hong Kong and began the global SARS outbreak. I was looking for an article on it and in one of the results I found out they've re-numbered the room to 913 (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/02/23/2003099824).

Also, found another article (http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0042-96862003000800014), but it has a couple 55's in it too, like 550 deaths and 55 cases .

I thought maybe the Fibonacci numbers, like I read about in one of Dan Brown's novels, might play a role. In mathematics, the Fibonacci numbers are the following sequence of numbers:

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89,....

By definition, the first two Fibonacci numbers are 0 and 1, and each remaining number is the sum of the previous two. Some sources omit the initial 0, instead beginning the sequence with two 1s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number

It didn't account for the number 52, so I continued searching. One thing I found interesting is that "Magog" = 52 (13x4). I found that on this page about numbers.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/number12.htm

There are 52 weeks in a year and 52 cards in a deck.

This guy's got something going with the number 52 and the number 4

The Hidden Language of 52

The miniseries 52: more than it appears. Oh yes. Yes indeed.

Among the godfathers of the project is Grant Morrison. Morrison, a man who loves to tie his works into larger ideas, such as the tarot card links to the Arkham Asylum graphic novel, or the Kabbalah/Mystic Spiral parallels in his Seven Soldiers of Victory maxiseries (a theory forwarded here).

Do you think that in the giant miniseries 52 he would simply abandon such methods?

Of course not.

The significance of the number fifty-two is manifold, but I believe the most obvious connection is the correct one: the standard Anglo-American deck of cards.

Stay with me. I’m going somewhere with this.

Each character in the miniseries represents a single card in the deck, and reflects the values connoted by that card. Take series star Booster Gold. A cursory examination of the character would lead one to believe that Booster, with his mercenary outlook and general foolishness, is clearly the Jack (formerly known as the “knave”) of diamonds. Diamonds=money, knave=dumbass.

You could think that…but you’d be wrong.

According to the Rouen deck, the Knave of Diamonds is Ogier, a knight of Charlemagne; according to the Parisian deck, he is Hector of Troy. Hector, the last hero of a dying city, is clearly not Booster. Ogier, a man whose name is silly, could indeed stand in for Booster Gold, another man with a silly name, but the Ogier of legend is a Dane. Booster is clearly not Danish, as his speech is free of that cool “o” with a slash through it, a telltale sign of Danitude.

So what card does he represent? What aspect of humanity is Michael Jon “Booster” Gold? Without question, he is the Ace of Clubs. Duh. The numerological significance of the number one fits Booster–it symbolizes the individual, the aggressor. Booster, stripped of his friend and his ties to the superhero fraternity, is truly a man alone. The club? The club is not a weapon of war, but rather the abstraction of an acorn. What is the acorn, but an oak waiting to be born? Who is Booster Gold, if not the individualist who is unready, the seed ready to become the mighty oak, albeit a mighty oak in yellow ski goggles? He is the One, the Solitary, both the highest and the lowest, the key to a royal flush or a really good blackjack hand.

Then we have his companion, the robot Skeets. Skeets is clearly the nine of diamonds. Hell, he just looks like the nine of diamonds, doesn’t he? As we all know, the nine symbolizes…

(SFX: deet deet!)

Wait, wait. Hold on. Time for meds. Doot dee doo…

(gulp)

(HJ rereads the first four issues of 52)

Uh…heh…never mind.

Ahem.

But I stand by my theory that the series ‘Mazing Man was all an elaboration on the deeper allegorical meanings of Connect Four.

“Pretty sneaky, sis.”

Pretty sneaky, indeed.

And this page (http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The%20Significance%20of%20Numbers%20in%20Scripture .htm) says FIFTY: is the number of jubilee or deliverance.

yes, and I hope you don't mind, but when I landed on your thread I pretty much copied the first page and posted it elsewhere along with the link. I think it is worth sharing, too. I also anylized some of the photos you have posted here and you're welcome to come look at them. I do have something special about the magog thing and London, I will have to locate it first. It is very interesting.

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Free_Thinkers/index.php?showtopic=3707&st=0&#entry4966186

peace:)

[titan]

Hiya yass :) You're welcome - cheers to all the contributers too!

I'm reading your post with interest right now. Can't believe the SARS 911 room thing! :eek:

I see you picked up on the 52 weeks in a year. Yes, this is what they are doing imo....bucking time...controlling time by locking us into a vibrational hex.

The Meridian....Mary Dna, Merry Diana...Goddess line

with Green wich mean time......it's sorcery.

7 days in a week

the 13 is the goddess (or something lol) something to do with hidden time...could be the Dome and Big Ben the male energy....both negative aspects of it used...

the 26 (queens birth) is a nod to 26000 year cycle. we're coming into the age of Aquarius. I see it as them trying to keep us in the age of Pisces...the age of Jesus and 'your saviour will come' type scenario...which is bogus imo.

So the KLF and the Timelords...dunno what was going on there....I think they may have been awake too! :)

Don't know if you've read this, but thoughts are here regarding the Beetham Tower (pane of glass broke on tower date September the 11th) being a big musical instrument...playing the song of pisces basically.


http://www.oneballradio.com/node/866#comments

It was recently struck by lightening on the 30th of July:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8179203.stm

[lordofangels]

Sirius is also known colloquially as the "Dog Star", reflecting its prominence in its constellation, Canis Major (English: Big Dog )

Bad = The Big "Bad" Wolf
Dog = Wolf

Doctor Who, "Bad Wolf" is in lots of episodes

[lordofangels]

The queen's dress looks the same as the carpet!:)


As Above So Below

[curtaincat]

and i knew the number 52 meant something, i posted that in the other thread and so did someone else into numerology, he got the 5 + 2 = 7, stuff , too.

you aint alone. lots on here know. :)



Yes, titan, the number 52 means a lot. glad your thread is still going strong in here !!! :cool:

People are taking notice! :)


( and dont worry about the 911 Forum being a bit lower down, it is important enough that people will still read a lot!)

[dancing_with_durga]

The relationship between the numbers in the Fibonacci sequence is phi, the Golden Ratio, 1:1.618. It takes a little while to get going until the numbers are big enough, but remains at the same ratio thereafter:

8 ÷ 5 = 1.6
13 ÷ 8 = 1.625
21 ÷ 13 = 1.615
34 ÷ 21 = 1.619
55 ÷ 34 = 1.618
89 ÷ 55 = 1.618
144 ÷ 89 = 1.618

As the Golden Ratio appears all around us in the physical world, including our own human form, there is something fundamental here I think.
.

[howie]

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7748/londontram1952596118.jpg

LONDON TRAM 1952
The last week in service for the poor old Route 36 tram, from Abbey Wood to Embankment via the Old Kent Road and Blackfriars. London's very last tram ran on 7 July 1952. Date: July 1952

http://www.prints-online.com/low.php?xp=media&xm=596118

http://www.yonks.co.uk/firsts.asp?type=4

[julieray]

This is an extract taken from Question 2 of Project Camelot with their interview with James from Wingmakers;

We are all living in a Matrix-like world of illusion and deception. While human beings are no longer in service to the Anunnaki for the production of gold, the genetic carry-over of the Human Mind System or HMS and the other components of the suppression framework are nonetheless still in operation and the reins of these suppression systems have been turned over to, and greedily grabbed by, the Elite.

It is well past the hour that humans wake up to what they are participating in and learn how they can stop it – one individual at a time. We are the key to our dilemma and we must learn how to deactivate the suppression matrix so we can awaken to the Sovereign Integral consciousness, live within its behavioral intelligence, and release ourselves from the grip of the mind and human instrument.

It definitely appears to be all part of the mass illusion why there are so many coincidences that keep us trapped in this mind system, so that we can't see the wood for the trees, but there is all brazingly is, right in front of us.

[titan]

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7748/londontram1952596118.jpg



http://www.prints-online.com/low.php?xp=media&xm=596118

http://www.yonks.co.uk/firsts.asp?type=4

:eek:

Was that the tram in question? Number 84?

[titan]

Yes, titan, the number 52 means a lot. glad your thread is still going strong in here !!! :cool:

People are taking notice! :)


( and dont worry about the 911 Forum being a bit lower down, it is important enough that people will still read a lot!)

Hiya :)

[curtaincat]

Hiya :)

back at ya, titan ;)

[titan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/06/obama-nuclear-weapons-speeches

The 52 minutes of Obama magic that changed the nuclear rules

In his whirlwind debut European tour of summits in Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic, Barack Obama has delivered two speeches, both exactly 26 minutes long


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27531033/

Obama beat McCain by 52 percent to 46 percent


Obama - President on the 4th November 2008


13 days later:

http://www.reobama.com/TimeCovers_Lrg_Obama_Nov17_08.jpg


52 days later, on the 26th:

Obama Blackout

http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/21714722/obama-blackout.htm

Previously this happened:

But an enterprising paparazzi photographer wearing a Hawaiian shirt apparently strolled along the beach, saw the Obamas, took out his long-lens camera and started shooting.

The photographer was less than 200 feet from the Obamas, said Frank Griffin, co-owner of Bauer-Griffin, the California-based paparazzi agency that snapped the shots. But the Secret Service agents guarding the property did not ask the photographer to leave the beach

http://media.bonnint.net/apimage/1157edf4-bc23-43bc-9f30-2e25366e78a1.jpg
Spain

http://www.artofobama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/3360304120_6c6264f652.jpg
Africa


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eW8U4L0niRE/SKJLuknrPeI/AAAAAAAABxo/DjTHQbuOKBI/s320/Time%2BMagazine%2BBlackout%2B77%2Bcover.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgG8nX58gnA


from the 4th of November 2008, 77 days later:

http://www.seattlepi.com/dayart/20090121/450APTOPIX_Obama_Inauguration_DCJE133_01-21-2009_CK2VQ31.jpg

[titan]

This is an extract taken from Question 2 of Project Camelot with their interview with James from Wingmakers;

We are all living in a Matrix-like world of illusion and deception. While human beings are no longer in service to the Anunnaki for the production of gold, the genetic carry-over of the Human Mind System or HMS and the other components of the suppression framework are nonetheless still in operation and the reins of these suppression systems have been turned over to, and greedily grabbed by, the Elite.

It is well past the hour that humans wake up to what they are participating in and learn how they can stop it – one individual at a time. We are the key to our dilemma and we must learn how to deactivate the suppression matrix so we can awaken to the Sovereign Integral consciousness, live within its behavioral intelligence, and release ourselves from the grip of the mind and human instrument.

It definitely appears to be all part of the mass illusion why there are so many coincidences that keep us trapped in this mind system, so that we can't see the wood for the trees, but there is all brazingly is, right in front of us.

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt-NvcuDVBc

[julieray]

That was interesting, very well presented. :)

[yass]

A year is divided into four quarters, a deck of cards into four suits.

[yass]

Here's that bit about Magog. It bothers me, because I can't find the first place I posted it at GLP. I can put up the same search words, 'Tadmorden', 'Frank McManus', and those after trying a magog sweep, but it won't pull up that particular thread and it bothers me because someone who knows/knew Frank Mcmanus spoke up and shared a little with us about it.

The link, between Gog & Magog, Goemagog, Gog MacGog, (Mac, meaning son of) or Yajuj * Majuj, with England, was made by Geoffrey of Monmouth in his 'History of The Kings of Britain', around 1136 A.D. The two figures now standing in the Guildhall of the City of London have been officially known as Gog and Magog for the past 300 years. So was Geoffrey of Monmouth just being "inventive" or is there any additional evidence to support his assertion that Britain, particularly the occupants of the Palace of Brute, now The City of London's Guildhall, bear any resemblance to their namesakes - Gog & MacGog, (Yajuj & Majuj)? It might be a valid interpretation of the iron gate that would keep GogMagog at bay until they manage to overcome it, on a day when according to the Qur'an "people will mingle with each other like waves", that it is the mastery of iron, i.e. modern technology, that finally gave them the upper hand in world affairs after the industrial revolution.

In a recent letter to Frank McManus (the present Lord Mayor of Todmorden), John Clark, Curator of Medieval London History and Collections at the Museum of London, pointed out that the link with the City of London and the giant Goemagog goes back to 1558, when wickerwork effigies of Goemagog and his captor, the Trojan Corineus, were carried around The City in the Lord Mayors' processions. In 1558 they were placed at Temple Bar to welcome Queen Elizabeth the Ist on a visit to The City of London having been used earlier on, to welcome Queen Mary and Philip II of Spain at London Bridge in 1554.


I found the thread.

and i quote "In a recent letter to Frank McManus (the present Lord Mayor of Todmorden), John Clark, Curator of Medieval London History and Collections at the Museum of London, pointed out that the link with the City of London and the giant Goemagog goes back to 1558, when wickerwork effigies of Goemagog and his captor, the Trojan Corineus, were carried around The City in the Lord Mayors' processions. In 1558 they were placed at Temple Bar to welcome Queen Elizabeth the Ist on a visit to The City of London having been used earlier on, to welcome Queen Mary and Philip II of Spain at London Bridge in 1554."

WHAT!!!?

I'm from Todmorden I know Frank, how Bizarre does this get!!!


I don't think he was ever lord mayor just a big letter writing person who wears short pants and red socks!


It was posted in a thread called Bizarre and Unexplainable Holes in Russian Forests (http://www.***********************/forum1/message393625/pg1).

I hope you don't mind my adding this, it's just I thought of it after reading that Magog = 52 thing.

GOG MAGOG HILLS (http://wanderling.tripod.com/gog_magog.html)

more (http://z3.invisionfree.com/Picture_This/index.php?showtopic=202)

[titan]

A year is divided into four quarters, a deck of cards into four suits.

Visitors will be encouraged to move between the columns, which will be clustered together in four interlocking groups - representing the four bombs that exploded that morning at Aldgate and Edgware Road Underground stations,

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4439281.ece

[titan]

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/77million3sm.jpg


http://www.microcinemadvd.com/product/DVD/599/77_Million_Paintings_By_Brian_Eno_Ltd_Ed_DVD_DVD_R om.html

his creation of the 77 Million Paintings software, the next evolutionary stage of his exploration into light as an artist’s medium and the aesthetic possibilities of “generative software.” The bonus software disc creates a constantly evolving, slowly changing “light painting” on the screen of your computer or TV with a virtually infinite number of variations accompanied by the music of Brian Eno. This deluxe package also includes a 52-page book featuring an extensive essay by Eno.

http://media.longnow.org/files/2/nl_eno_luminous6.jpg


Luminous festival (spiritual energy extraction - Matt Delooze stuff going on here i think - plus the light/illuminati)

Began on the 26th May 2009

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2009/05/26/sydney-eno-festival.html

[yass]

Today 7:00 AM PDT by Marc Malkin
Britney Spears Jon Kopaloff / Getty Images

UPDATE: The complete list of MTV Video Music Awards nominations has just been announced.

Beyonce and Lady Gaga tie for the most with nine each. As I told you earlier this morning, Britney Spears nabbed seven.

In a statement released by MTV, Lady Gaga thanked the network "for supporting this bunch of inspired kids, who love to get wasted and make art together."

First time nominees include Kings of Leon, Wisin Y Yandel, Drake and Asher Roth.

________

Britney Spears has done it again.

I can exclusively reveal that our favorite comeback kid has been nominated for not one, not two, not three…well, seven MTV Video Music Awards.

Last year, the pop princess made a brilliant return to the VMA stage when she took home three Moon Man trophies for "Piece of Me."

And while we hate to remember this...



Could ya believe it was only two years ago that Spears solidified her trainwreck status at the VMAs in Las Vegas with her disastrous performance of "Gimme More" in front of an audience that included Megan Fox?

This year's awards will be handed out and broadcast live on MTV from New York's Radio City Music Hall Sept. 13. Russell Brand returns as host.

No word yet if Brit will be added to this year's performance roster, which already includes Taylor Swift, Pink, Green Day and Muse. Additional nominees and performers are expected to be announced later today.

link (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b137525_britney_gets_nailed_with_seven_mtv_vma.htm l?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories)


See Brittany (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Free_Thinkers/index.php?showtopic=3608)

[titan]

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/836689/YouTube-brings-Olympic-coverage-77-countries/

YouTube has signed a deal to show around three hours a day of exclusive content from the Olympics to 77 countries across the world

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/4655555.stm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKhltoLsoeU

13 Umbrellas on bus.

http://logodesignerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/citibank.jpg


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wikiality/images/thumb/3/3f/HypnoticSpiral.gif/180px-HypnoticSpiral.gif

[titan]

Australian PM John Howard was in London on 7/7 & in Washington on 9/11.

The M77 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M77_motorway) motorway was constructed between 1977-2005.

11-11

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/57/m77.png

On The Buses TV Series ran for 74 episodes, 3 movie versions were made

74+3 = 77

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9718/onthebuses.jpg

No.13

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3161/onthebuses13.jpg


The Number 7 Bus

A serious incident occurred on 13 June 1957, when a RTL-type bus (RTL780) on route 7A, whose driver had collapsed from "heat exhaustion", ran into a queue of waiting passengers on Oxford Street, killing eight people.

1966 - The day of the World Cup final

On 30 July 1966, a Routemaster bus (RM1768), which had been in service on route 7, but was running empty back to the depot, caught fire at Marble Arch and was totally burnt out. This led to headlines in the London evening newspapers "The day a no 7 caught fire" and "End of the road for a no 7 bus".


BMA Building

The logo of the BMA includes a stylised version of the rod of Asclepius, associated with Asclepius, the Greek god of healing.

It consists of a serpent entwined around a staff. The name of the symbol derives from its early and widespread association with Asclepius, the son of Apollo, who was a practitioner of medicine in ancient Greek mythology. His attributes, the snake and the staff, sometimes depicted separately in antiquity, are combined in this symbol.[2] The Rod of Asclepius also represents the constellation Ophiuchus (or Ophiuchus Serpentarius), the thirteenth sign of the sidereal zodiac.



"The Greek-born bus driver, who moved to London in 1972"

7 x 7 = 49


The Number 171 Bus

Today's 171 was introduced on 6 April 1952 at Stage 7 of London Transport's post-war "Tram to Buses" conversion scheme to replace Kingsway Subway Tram route 33

The route number 171 had been used twice prior to its current use.

There were also in London:

* Between 8 April 1925 and 7 July 1925 for a Monday to Friday Wimbledon (Prince of Wales <to> North Cheam (Queen Victoria) via Morden route 171A.




http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7/1996171busbomb.jpg

Exploded near Tavistock St

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9165/1996buswellington.jpg


BACK ON THE BUSES AGAIN

http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/bus/070905skynewsdriversbus.html

sky news | 7th September 05 | original url: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13432009,00.html

Two bus drivers whose vehicles were attacked with bombs in London have returned to work.

Both George Psaradakis and Mark Maybanks said they have faced up to their fears and are now back doing the job they love.

Mr Psaradakis was at the wheel of the Number 30 bus which was blown apart in Tavistock Square on July 7 in central London.

Mr Maybanks was driving the Number 26 when a bomb failed to detonate as he drove through Shoreditch in east London on July 21.

Both men have driven the routes again and they have now returned to the Stagecoach depot in Stratford, east London, for their first full day back at work.

Mr Psaradakis said it was "a bit daunting" to go back behind the wheel after the bombing, which left 14 people dead, including the terrorist bomber Hasib Hussain.

He said: "I feel ready to go out there and serve our glorious heroic and beautiful capital.

"At this point, I would like to thank God Almighty and the Virgin Mary who helped me come out of that bomb-struck bus alive.

"I am deeply sorry I cannot say the same for some of my passengers who travelled with me on that fateful and macabre journey on July 7.

"I pray to God to rest their souls inside his heavenly arms forever."

Colleague Mr Maybanks said: "We shan't be bombed out of our buses.

"But that moment, that dreadful moment, it will stay forever in my mind and my heart. What I saw, it was a carnage and it has deeply affected me."



MM = 26 Plus the 'may' (beltane eve was the date the jubilee line was opened by Prince Charles)

banks


70's occult piss -take

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9demh_RPQpc

[howie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223298/Mother-baby-bus-hospital-passengers-tell-driver-foot-down.html

A woman gave birth in the back of a London bus as passengers begged the driver: 'Put your foot down.'

Emiloju Fatima Lawal had her son after the 394 to Homerton Hospital in Hackney, north London, stopped to allow an ambulance crew on board.

The 7lb 7oz boy, Olatidebe Agboola, was given the middle name Dennis after the bus manufacturer.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6420/77busbirth.jpg


On 7/7 No.30 bus was travelling to Hackney

[energy]

how about this , in British currency there are two coins with 7 sides the 50 pence piece and the 20 pence piece = 7 7 ,what do you think about that

[rodin]

The bus on 7/7 was fleet number 17758 if anyone wants to decode it (obviously 77 is in there)

Modern Freemasonry was founded in 1717

Interesting narrative on the origins (also includes 9)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88058

Communism and Zionism were put into practice in 1917 with the Balfour declaration and Russian Revolution

WTC on 911 was like 7 and 11 fell (can't escape the symbolism of the twin towers) and as noted flights 77, 11, 175

The most persistent numbers appearing here seem to me to be 7 and 11 and of course 17 but on the key dates there are included the correct digits eg 1917 .

Here is the primary occult root of seven in these rituals

Use in Kabbalah
According to Judaic sources, the Star or Shield of David signifies the number seven: that is, the six points plus the center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_david

Remember the King (David) Star Van?

I read 11 is crucial also in the Kaballah but maybe some better informed here can identify the primary occult root of that number also.

In addition to Jews and other Semites, the Royal House of England requires circumcision of all male children. As a matter of fact, it was the Jewish Mohel of London who circumcised Charles, Prince of Wales.

http://www.tiuny.org/mohel.shtml

Bit of a one eye opener that info, eh?

[howie]

No.1 in the UK pop charts from 2 July 2005

Ghetto Gospel (GG=77) 2pac feat Elton John


The bizarre coincidence of 911 (USA emergency services telephone number) days between 11 September 2001 & Madrid 11 March 2004 repeats itself between Bali 12 October 2002 (1 year 1 month 1 day after 9/11) & 7/7 = 999 days.

Another strange match is 77 years between Titanic & Hillsborough.

[howie]

Dirty War (2004) BBC/HBO

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427157/

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8849/dirtywarliverpoolst.jpg

Liverpool Street Tube

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4756/dirtywar77.jpg

7/7

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1018/dirtywaredgeware.jpg

Terrorists meet at Edgware Road

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7457/dirtywar52.jpg

1st bomb goes off at 52 mins into the film, stopwatch shows 7 7 & 52

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8214/dirtywaraldgate.jpg

Terrorists are 3 men from Leeds......

[paulstott]

The bus on 7/7 was fleet number 17758 if anyone wants to decode it (obviously 77 is in there)

Modern Freemasonry was founded in 1717

Interesting narrative on the origins (also includes 9)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88058

Communism and Zionism were put into practice in 1917 with the Balfour declaration and Russian Revolution

WTC on 911 was like 7 and 11 fell (can't escape the symbolism of the twin towers) and as noted flights 77, 11, 175

The most persistent numbers appearing here seem to me to be 7 and 11 and of course 17 but on the key dates there are included the correct digits eg 1917 .

Here is the primary occult root of seven in these rituals



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_david

Remember the King (David) Star Van?

I read 11 is crucial also in the Kaballah but maybe some better informed here can identify the primary occult root of that number also.



http://www.tiuny.org/mohel.shtml

Bit of a one eye opener that info, eh?

I love this numerology based conspiraloonery. Check this out:

Number of cups of tea I have had today: 5

Number of letters my Jewish postman delivered this morning: 2

Add that up and you get 7. Now consider the number of Mossad agents expelled from the UK by David Milliband today - 1 -, and add that number to the number of freemasons lodges based in Hackney - 6. You have - 7/7.

And where was the number 30 bus travelling on 7/7 - to Hackney.

I rest my case..........

[howie]

From and including: Wednesday, 15 December 1982
To, but not including : Thursday, 7 July 2005

It is 8240 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

Or 22 years, 6 months, 22 days excluding the end date
Alternative time units
8240 days can be converted to one of these units:

* 711,936,000 seconds
* 11,865,600 minutes
* 197,760 hours
* 1177 weeks (rounded down)

Shehzad (7 letters) Tanweer (7 letters) bombs Aldgate (7) Station (7) on 7 July (7) killing....7

Birth certificate is no.22 - age 22 on 7/7

Hussains is no.52

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4678837.stm

no data for Lindsay

8240 days can be converted to one of these units:

8 + 2 + 4 = 14 (7 + 7)

[the freeman]

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated occurring together in a meaningful manner. To count as synchronicity, the events should be unlikely to occur together by chance.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Sch%C3%A9ma_synchronicit%C3%A9_in_English.png