View Full Version : Do you think homeopathy works?
les_paul_robot
07-07-2009, 09:42 PM
At first I did, then went through a phase where I didn't. Now I realise how bogus conventional medicine is, I'm starting to think that homeopathy is a valid treatment, especially as science cannot explain things properly like the memory of water etc.
Someone showed me this article
http://www.smh.com.au/national/parents-guilty-of-manslaughter-over-daughters-eczema-death-20090605-bxvx.html
about a couple whose baby girl died after trying to use homeopathy to treat her and not going to doctors.
I was arguing with someone the merits of homeopathy. I think this instance is unfortunate, but could've still happened with conventional treatment perhaps. I guess the travelling around didn't help.
Any thoughts on the above or homeopathy as a whole?
Thanks.
motleyhoo
07-07-2009, 10:15 PM
The real question should be, do you think that boosting your immune system naturally is a valid treatment or prevention (ie, homeopathy).
My answer to that would be yes because I have personal experience with it.
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biblegirl
07-07-2009, 10:31 PM
The news article is terrible biased, and did a poor job of representing homeopathy. What a tragic case!
Homeopathy doesn't kill anyone, and it's a very bold statement that conventional medicine would have cured her within 24 hours. The parents did seek conventional treatment, but obviously the solutions did not work or they would have continued with them.
From what I know of conventional medicine, homeopathic medicine, etc., I would say what the poor girl was experiencing went way beyond the scope of a dermatologist.
Aside from that...
IMO homeopathy works, which I believe from personal experience. Sometimes I think the wrong homeopathic medicines are administered, or the condition is misdiagnosed, and in these cases people might assume the medicine is not working. I have more experience with homeopathy as prevention over treatment though. :)
chris_com283
07-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Nature have published two studies. One which proves homeopathy and one which doesn't. I don't have much of an opinion of it, but it has helped me a few times and got me out of a really depressing period.
rubes
07-07-2009, 11:02 PM
we have used homeopathy on our animals (dogs) ourselves and our daughter.......
this whole issue can be debated til the end of time i guess, but for me the penny dropped when several years ago, one of our lab's fur dropped out in a big way and left her skin looking like burns, which were blistering and weeping etc, we later found out she was allergic to grass/tree pollens etc, and after a fall out with the vet, who was prescribing steroids and other crap, i decided into looking at natural feeding and remedies, this is when we came across homeopathy :)
Within days the blistering and weping had stopped and within a couple of weeks max, the fur started to grow back, all from switching to a 'mixed pollen' remedy.......
As for the people who are not in favour and mention the 'placebo' effect, how does a dog know what it is receiving......it doesn't, to the dog it's food......yum yum ;)
Sorry for the essay, but Homeopathy gets the thumbs up here :)
From first hand experience yes .As for placebo effect , if it works thats what matters .Like rubes said how do animals know what they are taking ,so they cant experience placebo .The mind body connection cannot be overlooked as it helps to strengthen our immune system if we have faith in it, imo :D
paolo
08-07-2009, 12:49 AM
From long experience, I'd say yes it works
It's either the wrong remedy or the right one, or someting in between which does a half job
If it's completely right, it's like a miracle
I've seen this work and experienced it myself on numerous occasions
metacomet
08-07-2009, 06:59 AM
Here's the thing about the word 'homeopathy'. It's a technical term for what is 'good medicine'. Real medicine. They give it a term like homeopathy to make it sound different from 'normal' medicine.
Thousands of years ago when you used specific natural herbs and salves, when you drank specific teas and when you used 'natural' medicines it was called medicine. Now they call it homeopathy to encourage a definition that contrasts it with synthetic medicine.... as if natural medicine is somehow an alternative. It is the original medicine.
Synthetic medicine is the real alternative. An ugly one too. Synthetic medicine is a complete deviation from what human beings have been doing for millions of years, just like our diet and everything else we consume.
Native Americans were stereotyped to have called things 'good medicine' and 'bad medicine' because truly, they saw bad medicine for what it was. When things like morphine and alcohol and sugar tonics were being sold as cure-alls by western medicine and producing countless addicts ... that was obvious bad medicine. Real medicine was already known to them.
In this age, natural anything is considered 'alternative'.
If a person goes outside and watches the sunset they are now practicing an 'alternative' to sitting inside and watching TV. That's how far we have swung to the side of bad medicine in western society. Natural anything is now considered alternative. Homeopathy is a term to make natural medicine sound alternative.
rubes
08-07-2009, 07:54 AM
also worth mentioning that i think people get it wrong sometimes, bby either choosing the wrong remedy or the wrong dose, usually too low, for example, for people with babies and want to treat common problems like nappy rash, you can buy chammomilla granules at a potency of 6c, but for many this strength is in-effective, so people just assume it does not work, rather than useing the common sense approach and using a stronger potency like 30c..........unless people are scared to be different from the majority of brainwased sheeple who accept that everything you buy from a shelf and comes in a bottle is the only way.......
belladonna
09-07-2009, 01:28 PM
At first I did, then went through a phase where I didn't. Now I realise how bogus conventional medicine is, I'm starting to think that homeopathy is a valid treatment, especially as science cannot explain things properly like the memory of water etc.
Someone showed me this article
http://www.smh.com.au/national/parents-guilty-of-manslaughter-over-daughters-eczema-death-20090605-bxvx.html
about a couple whose baby girl died after trying to use homeopathy to treat her and not going to doctors.
I was arguing with someone the merits of homeopathy. I think this instance is unfortunate, but could've still happened with conventional treatment perhaps. I guess the travelling around didn't help.
Any thoughts on the above or homeopathy as a whole?
Thanks.
This is a terrible tradgedy and I feel sorry for the parents. This news report is bias and I agree with another post that suggests there were probably other underlying problems with the child.
If she had been treated with convential medicine and still died you would not have heard the media comment on neglegence. However, there is nothing to say that convential medicine would have prevented this child from dying. Just look at the statistics for the NHS deaths with drugs??
Homeopathy does not kill..............other underlying conditions may well do..............however, convential medicine does!!!
krakhead
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
Nothing works better than homeopathy ;)
lookfar
09-07-2009, 02:01 PM
I used to go to an excellent homeopath & nothing I've ever had before or since has worked as well for me. You are treated holistically, so they don't just concentrate on your initial problem, but take into account factors about your personality, skin colour, emotional state & temperament etc.
He was a private consultant and cost quite a bit for every consultation fee, but any of the remedies he prescribed were herbal or homeopathic and cost next to nothing.
I really must get back to him if I can, it's well worth the extra expense imo. Although apparently homeopathy should also be available on the NHS but never in a million years will you get a doctor to refer you to one!:(
I don't know the details of the case mentioned in the OP, but it sounds very tragic. However, from my own personal experience with a very well qualified homeopath, all I can say is it's definitely the way to go!
belladonna
09-07-2009, 02:46 PM
[QUOTE=lookfar;1104530] Although apparently homeopathy should also be available on the NHS but never in a million years will you get a doctor to refer you to one!:(
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Actually I live in the Northwest of UK and work at a holistic centre that has been built NEXT to a Health Centre and they actually are refering patients to the centre. Thats not to say they accept what we do, but its a small step.
lookfar
09-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Actually I live in the Northwest of UK and work at a holistic centre that has been built NEXT to a Health Centre and they actually are refering patients to the centre. Thats not to say they accept what we do, but its a small step.
Ah that's great news belladonna, I'm glad to hear it!:) I just wish it was the same down south. Although to be fair, I believe they are a bit more into holistic treatments in Somerset (around Glastonbury etc), just not as further south. Hopefully things will improve over time, but with the dreaded Codex Alimentarius rearing it's ugly head I'm not sure that'll happen.
cruise4
10-07-2009, 12:51 AM
I've seen homeopathy apparently work, and some vets use it. I don't understand how it can work, but it does seem to, sometimes.
wildheartx
16-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Depends what's classed as homeopathy. If the remedy is made up of a certain herb or flower etc and is distilled yes it works! Im taking a homeopathic remedy for mercury poisoning made up chlorella and cilantro and i feel it working. I get reactions to taking it if i take too much so yes it works if there's actual ingredients to it. However i once went to a homeopath who questioned me for 90 minutes then took some plain sugar pills and put them into some sort of machine with circular holes in them turned some dials and hit a switch gave them back to me and said heres your remedy. I asked her what she actually did she told me it was quantum physics and she doesnt actually understand it herself. I refused to pay her as to me this was pure quackery. She gave me the pills for a discount price and they did nothing, absolutely nothing because there was nothing there.
Bottom line unless your remedy has some ingredients to it avoid it and avoid these people who call themselves homeopaths who use the method i described. A proper homeopath will always give you remedies in distilled water as they are the most effective.
lookfar
16-07-2009, 05:03 PM
Depends what's classed as homeopathy. If the remedy is made up of a certain herb or flower etc and is distilled yes it works! Im taking a homeopathic remedy for mercury poisoning made up chlorella and cilantro and i feel it working. I get reactions to taking it if i take too much so yes it works if there's actual ingredients to it. However i once went to a homeopath who questioned me for 90 minutes then took some plain sugar pills and put them into some sort of machine with circular holes in them turned some dials and hit a switch gave them back to me and said heres your remedy. I asked her what she actually did she told me it was quantum physics and she doesnt actually understand it herself. I refused to pay her as to me this was pure quackery. She gave me the pills for a discount price and they did nothing, absolutely nothing because there was nothing there.
Bottom line unless your remedy has some ingredients to it avoid it and avoid these people who call themselves homeopaths who use the method i described. A proper homeopath will always give you remedies in distilled water as they are the most effective.
I'm not sure what you're implying here as all homeopathic tablets are sugar based as they need to disolve on your tongue & they all contain "ingredients", (ie whatever it is you've been prescribed). They are not just sugar alone as this would be nonsense!
I've not ever been prescribed remedies in distilled water either & I go to a very qualified & distinguished homeopath. I've had herbal tinctures from him at one point as he prescribes both herbal and homeopathic remedies, but I've not heard of what you're describing here so please can you elaborate a bit more as this could come across as being confusing information. Thanks:)
wildheartx
16-07-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm not sure what you're implying here as all homeopathic tablets are sugar based as they need to disolve on your tongue & they all contain "ingredients", (ie whatever it is you've been prescribed). They are not just sugar alone as this would be nonsense!
I've not ever been prescribed remedies in distilled water either & I go to a very qualified & distinguished homeopath. I've had herbal tinctures from him at one point as he prescribes both herbal and homeopathic remedies, but I've not heard of what you're describing here so please can you elaborate a bit more as this could come across as being confusing information. Thanks:)
Remedies made in distilled water are always the most effective. One homeopath(in Devon) actually made them up in front of me, it was remarkable,unfortunately he left the country( i still believe something really sinister happened as he often commented on a black helicopter flying overhead watching him, he even showed me pictures of it) This guy cured diseases!
The other homeopath i visited as described in my previous post was simply a quack. She honestly believed what she was doing worked, to me it was utter garbage. Turning a couple of dials doesnt turn sugar pills into an active remedy and i consider myself an open minded person.
However i agree remedies in tablet form do work if they come from a reputable company or homeopath(not someone whos been on a course for a year and bought a machine) I buy my remedies from Ainsworths as they actually tell you the ingredients of the remedy. I spoke to Lynn Edy of Ainsworths on the phone about the methods i was treated with and she said its impossible and any effect would purely be a placebo. She then continued and said a remedy in water is the most effective but tablets do work but really only in measurements of 30c and above.
So there's my experiences! I hope this cleared things up a little.
unusual_suspect
16-07-2009, 07:49 PM
I have used homeopathic arnica tablets after operations and they are really good.
astrochicken
16-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Nothing works better than homeopathy ;)
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