Simpsons 9/11 Pic.

[illuminumnuts]

Hello all. I'm new here, but as I don't see an 'Introductions' forum this is my first post. I'm sure many folk here have seen this pic. I just wondered whether most of you directly linked it to 9/11 or not? It's a little more tenuous than the passport pic from 'The Matrix' which I have no doubts about.

http://www.vyzygoth.com/simpson.jpg

[disorder2k8]

loads of times, check this area out

[curtaincat]

Hello all. I'm new here, but as I don't see an 'Introductions' forum this is my first post. I'm sure many folk here have seen this pic. I just wondered whether most of you directly linked it to 9/11 or not? It's a little more tenuous than the passport pic from 'The Matrix' which I have no doubts about.

http://www.vyzygoth.com/simpson.jpg

Interesting, never noticed that before! :eek: thanks.

and the INTRO forum is in 'general', it is 2nd sticky down, if thats any help.

welcome :) and thanks for the picture :cool:

[gripit]

Hello all. I'm new here, but as I don't see an 'Introductions' forum this is my first post. I'm sure many folk here have seen this pic. I just wondered whether most of you directly linked it to 9/11 or not? It's a little more tenuous than the passport pic from 'The Matrix' which I have no doubts about.

http://www.vyzygoth.com/simpson.jpg

Welcome! That was Season 9, epsiode 1, Sept 1997. Homer must travel to New York to get his car back, which is illegally parked at World Trade Center Plaza. Harry Shearer is a 33rd degree freemason. Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64521) is a thread with other Simpsons stuff :)

[libertad101]

Not a surprise, they do this on a regular basis.

[cc9088]

Now this is too weird. I was reading through this thread when suddenly most of the information disappeared with the exception of the posts put up today. Anyone else notice this?

[illuminumnuts]

Interesting, never noticed that before! :eek: thanks.

and the INTRO forum is in 'general', it is 2nd sticky down, if thats any help.

welcome :) and thanks for the picture :cool:

Ok, I found the 'Introductions' forum. Cheers for that. I was hoping for a few more responses. Maybe I should have done a poll. I found it pretty compelling myself. When I stumbled on this pic and 'The Matrix' passport pic last year I dug a little deeper myself. This is the 'The Matrix' passport pic:

http://cremationofcare.com/images/911/matrix_passport_9-11_zoom2.JPG

The passport birth date relates to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attica_Prison_Riots#The_retaking_of_the_prison_and _retaliation_by_corrections_officers

I know others also went and found that out themselves, but a little recycling does no harm. Now with the birth date AND the expiry date linked to those 2 events it makes the term 'compelling' an understatement. The passport start date fits with what it would have to be for a standard U.S. passport so I wouldn't read too much into that, though it is a year and a day after Bush's infamous NWO speech. A year and a day is 'supposed' to be a significant measure of time for Occultists and also makes the number 11 which is 'supposed' to be a significant number, but I know little of all that and am just shooting from the hip. Finally, and shooting from the hip again, 'Thomas A. Anderson' is an anagram of 'handsome or satan' I discovered.


Now moving on to 'The Simpsons' pic again. I was aware that it came from Series 9 Episode 1, as gripit pointed out, and was aware it was the episode where Homer visits the World Trade Centre. I then had the idea to look up Series 9 Episode 11 and discovered this:

http://www.thesimpsons.com/recaps/season9/#episode11

It struck me as a very odd type of episode to broadcast mid series. I'd imagine this sort of episode from any TV show would be broadcast as a series opener or a series finale. What struck me as even more odd were the final lines of the synopsis:

'The writers, meanwhile, sing and dance all the way to the bank as the editors put the show together.'

Seemed like an overview of what really happened on 9/11! Now, this is just speculation and I don't like to get lost in speculation, but allied with 'The Matrix' pic I found this too hard to ignore.

[deem]

Welcome Illuminumnuts, yeh i saw that. The Fox network is owned by the elite, probably put in as a little injoke. Might give you a clue as to how early they'd been planning the attack.

[dalsar]

Hello all. I'm new here, but as I don't see an 'Introductions' forum this is my first post. I'm sure many folk here have seen this pic. I just wondered whether most of you directly linked it to 9/11 or not? It's a little more tenuous than the passport pic from 'The Matrix' which I have no doubts about.

http://www.vyzygoth.com/simpson.jpg

I am a bit lost lol, whats the significance of the twin towers being on the front page of that simpson magazine in the pic?

[illuminumnuts]

I am a bit lost lol, whats the significance of the twin towers being on the front page of that simpson magazine in the pic?

Well, first of all, do you accept the relevance of 'The Matrix' passport pic? Your answer will help me give the best response I can and not cover ground unnecessarily.

[gripit]

even more relevant pic ;)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/706/simpsons9112yg7.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/simpsons9112yg7.jpg/)

[ownoiz]

Yes gotta love the simpsons, symbolism everywhere, some prophetic too.

OT to 9/11 , but last night here in OZ on channel 10, they showed the bank of springfield...the logo for that bank is BS

and inside was sketch of pyramid complete with sun on top...

The 'BS' bank with illuminati symbolism inside.
.

[dalsar]

Well, first of all, do you accept the relevance of 'The Matrix' passport pic? Your answer will help me give the best response I can and not cover ground unnecessarily.


I havnt seen matrix.

can you explain what it shows, the matrix version that is, please :)

and is the simpson pic one showing that the number 9 and two tall buildings II, so that makes 9 II = 9 11

[illuminumnuts]

This is the 'The Matrix' passport pic:

http://cremationofcare.com/images/911/matrix_passport_9-11_zoom2.JPG

The passport birth date relates to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attica_Prison_Riots#The_retaking_of_the_prison_and _retaliation_by_corrections_officers

I know others also went and found that out themselves, but a little recycling does no harm. Now with the birth date AND the expiry date linked to those 2 events it makes the term 'compelling' an understatement. The passport start date fits with what it would have to be for a standard U.S. passport so I wouldn't read too much into that, though it is a year and a day after Bush's infamous NWO speech. A year and a day is 'supposed' to be a significant measure of time for Occultists and also makes the number 11 which is 'supposed' to be a significant number, but I know little of all that and am just shooting from the hip. Finally, and shooting from the hip again, 'Thomas A. Anderson' is an anagram of 'handsome or satan' I discovered.

Well, it's all above pretty much. To sum up, that pic is a screenshot taken from the movie 'The Matrix'. You can only see it with slow motion and pause. It's the scene where he is first caught and interrogated by Agent Smith. The movie was filmed in 97, released in cinemas in 98 and released on dvd in 99. Check the dvd yourself. It's an incredibly clever pic because it was rooted in the past and the future. I have a 'hunch' that maybe it was a 'good guy' that got it in there and then leaked it years later after the dvd was widely disseminated all over the planet. Who knows though. The point is it's just beyond being dismissed, in my view anyway.

As you said, 'The Simpsons' pic would make 9/11. That epsiode from 'The Simpsons' was filmed around the same time as 'The Matrix' was. There are also other alleged references to 9/11 in the media in the late 90's, but it's not easy to completely accept one reference as an incontrovertible link. On the whole though, I would say there are more definite links there. Having 'The Matirx' pic as a solid foundation is a good reason to keep looking. I'm sure there must be other examples that no one has discovered yet.

[stannrodd]

even more relevant pic ;)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/706/simpsons9112yg7.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/simpsons9112yg7.jpg/)

gripit,

How is it more relevant?

That is but one singular frame.

What was the screenplay portraying at the time of the selected frame.

Just curious.

I can see the 9/11 connotations from the frame by itself, but is that relevant to anything sinister or pre knowledge in a greater sense.

Are you perhaps suggesting that the animators are involved in the "CONSPIRACY" ?

If so why ?

Stann :)

[noewhan]

I herd some theory that there was a rocket fired from the Woolworths building, which Lisa's finger is over... Or is that a different building?

[dave52]

How is it more relevant?

Maybe because Bart is holding up a big wad of money...?

Are you perhaps suggesting that the animators are involved in the "CONSPIRACY" ?

If so why ?

Stann :)

There are quite a few references to 9/11 before the event. Some sort of mass programing maybe, coincidence, or maybe the perps just love to brag.

Check out Steve Jackson's Illuminati NWO board game from 1995. Mad as a brush.

[stannrodd]

Missile launcher at Woolworth building? Click here (http://letsrollforums.com/missile-launcher-ww-building-t3332p7.html?highlight=stann+missile+woolworth+bui lding)

We worked on that issue a while back ... even found a likely launcher.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Launcher.jpg

Look on the lowest balcony .. after you look at this one ..

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/wworths.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/rocketlauncher.jpg

Hi Res aerial photo .. post 9/11 .. very early days.

Stann

[stannrodd]

Here is a perspective of WTC2 WTC1 and WTC7 with WW building to the left in the image.

The WW building can see all WTC buildings labelled.


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/WWcentre.jpg

Stann

[stannrodd]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Launcher.jpg

Sorry guys here's that rocket launcher suspect. Apparently it is an older wire guidance style system.

Stann

PS deletion of this post could be recorded and used in evidence if this was a sensible foum.

[dave52]

Wow Stann, you're all over the Woolworths Rocket Launcher.

Do you think there legs on the story? If so, what was the rocket launcher used for on 9/11, in your oppinion?

[gripit]

Maybe because Bart is holding up a big wad of money...?



Yes, thx dave52 :)

Hey stannrodd! Rocket launcher, eh?! Never heard about that, hmm...perhaps a back up plan? Regardless, I like to keep an open mind :)

[fanoftruth]

I used to find the rocket launcher being fired from the Woolworth building absoloutely fascinating when I first started researching back in 2005. What amazes me the most is it barely even gets a mention.

Out there on the web are a decent amount of reports made on 9/11 of missiles or rockets being fired from the top of that building and there is even a cropped video, which admitedly is quite low quality, showing something happening near the top of it...which does indeed look like rockets being fired.

[curtaincat]

They played an old episode of the simpsons today, where Bart was trying out for the part of 'fall-out guy' to Radioactive Man.

Bart said: "look out Radioactive Man, the Sun is Exploding Again".

quite likely means nothing, or it may possibly mean something.

the reason i put this in, is because of all the stuff about the sun at the moment.

who can say.. ;)

[illuminumnuts]

I can see the 9/11 connotations from the frame by itself, but is that relevant to anything sinister or pre knowledge in a greater sense.

Are you perhaps suggesting that the animators are involved in the "CONSPIRACY" ?

If so why ?

Stann :)


I would simply suggest that someone involved with the programme somehow had advance 'knowledge' of the 9/11 attacks. In my opinion, and contrary to 'The Matrix' passport pic, I would say this pic from 'The Simpsons' wasn't 'leaked' after the event and was just randomly spotted by someone. I would say the same is true of some of the other media references to 9/11 from the late 90's. On the other hand, no one could possibly spot that passport pic without knowing to look for it. And even then it isn't easy! Why and how foreknowledge of 9/11 appeared in the media in the late 90's is a different question. The key point here is 'The Matrix' passport pic can't be dismissed. Basic logic would suggest that if there is one media reference to 9/11 from the late 90's there may well be others. The astounding thing is that there is one there. I hope the person responsible did it for the right reasons and, if so, I have tremendous respect for that person. That person is probably banging their head on a brick wall that more folk have yet to wake up to their 'Juggernaut evidence', but things are moving in the right direction. Does anyone that reads this thread actually dismiss that passport pic?

[stannrodd]

Nice reply Illuminumnuts .. I would have to totally agree with this

I hope the person responsible did it for the right reasons and, if so, I have tremendous respect for that person.

This person must be contactable .. perhaps?

The rocket launcher sort of died an uncanny death among the 9/11 truthers. Still it was an interesting research line at the time. Perhaps a new look at it will reveal new footage.

Stann

[illuminumnuts]

This person must be contactable .. perhaps?

Not that I know of.

[stannrodd]

Wow Stann, you're all over the Woolworths Rocket Launcher.

Do you think there legs on the story? If so, what was the rocket launcher used for on 9/11, in your oppinion?

Firing Rockets :D

The firing of incendiaries perhaps ? We figured that the wire control mechanism would be sufficient guidance control in such a closed theatre.

Any ones guess really Dave. What do you think?

Stann

[dave52]

Firing Rockets :D

The firing of incendiaries perhaps ? We figured that the wire control mechanism would be sufficient guidance control in such a closed theatre.

Any ones guess really Dave. What do you think?

Stann

I really don't know. I too found the Woolworths Building story fascinating at the beginning, I'm puzzled as to why it fizzled out. I really can't think why the rockets would be needed unless you want to go down the no large planes route. But the rocket story disappeared before I got into NPT.

Could've been a plan b, or just something to create more confusion on the ground.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Hello all. I'm new here, but as I don't see an 'Introductions' forum this is my first post. I'm sure many folk here have seen this pic. I just wondered whether most of you directly linked it to 9/11 or not? It's a little more tenuous than the passport pic from 'The Matrix' which I have no doubts about.

http://www.vyzygoth.com/simpson.jpg

No planes in the photo.
Doesn't match up.

[solarwindspirit]

It was probably in reference to the plans of selling off america for nothing. . .

[ownoiz]

No planes in the photo.
Doesn't match up.

Maybe they hadnt definitively decided to use planes yet, or it was leaked information and the leaker didnt know the full story.

What happened to commercial airline companies stock prices after September 11, well they nose dived, no pun intended.

Cheap stocks ripe for the picking (or buying). One of many successful spin off ventures that the bankers could capitalise on. Maybe they didnt want other clued up individuals to know the full story and mess with or capitalise on their stockmarket plans.
.

[allen982]

The Simpsons pic proves once and for all that it was an inside job ;)

[wakeuptime]

I love this forum. Where do you guys find this information? I'd like to hear more about the Woolworth building rocket theory. Back before 9-11 I used to work on the 40th floor of Woolworth. Definately a Brotherhood atmosphere. During the Gulf War they gave us all ID cards and we had to pass through security every day. They seemed to enjoy photographing and controlling us.

This Simpson picture is certainly suspicious. Time to take a closer look at what's being said on that show.

[qpid]

It´s interessting how they used the 9/11 theme in movies before it really happened

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Hollywood_911.htm

[illuminumnuts]

The Simpsons pic proves once and for all that it was an inside job ;)

You just need common sense and a few brain cells to reach that conclusion. ;)

[kidsarocker]

I would simply suggest that someone involved with the programme somehow had advance 'knowledge' of the 9/11 attacks. In my opinion, and contrary to 'The Matrix' passport pic, I would say this pic from 'The Simpsons' wasn't 'leaked' after the event and was just randomly spotted by someone. I would say the same is true of some of the other media references to 9/11 from the late 90's. On the other hand, no one could possibly spot that passport pic without knowing to look for it. And even then it isn't easy! Why and how foreknowledge of 9/11 appeared in the media in the late 90's is a different question. The key point here is 'The Matrix' passport pic can't be dismissed. Basic logic would suggest that if there is one media reference to 9/11 from the late 90's there may well be others. The astounding thing is that there is one there. I hope the person responsible did it for the right reasons and, if so, I have tremendous respect for that person. That person is probably banging their head on a brick wall that more folk have yet to wake up to their 'Juggernaut evidence', but things are moving in the right direction. Does anyone that reads this thread actually dismiss that passport pic?

Go to youtube and type in 911 in Hollywood, some fascinating sycnhronicities there..also there is a thread about these synchronicities.

Coincidence...i don't believe coincidences

[illuminumnuts]

I added a poll to this thread. In addition to that I wanted to raise the issue of whether 'The Simpsons' in general is a psyop. Any views on this? I think it is myself.

[graflok]

^ Is there something on television that isn't? :p

[illuminumnuts]

^ Is there something on television that isn't? :p

I think there's a programme called 'Spooks'. :p

[christophera]

What if simpsons contained that direct knowledge for the express purpose of associating 9-11 truth with a cartoon?

Despite the possibility of that, how would the information be used to gain more truth?

[illuminumnuts]

I think this particular pic/T.V. show is a joke by some N.W.O. mofos. I don't think they expected the pic to be picked up and disseminated the way it has been. This was early to mid 1997. They couldn't foresee how the internet would evolve against them.

[infinite_consciousness]

I'd say no. A picture would be ideal for a thread like this.

[illuminumnuts]

Maybe I shouldn't use the word 'pic'. It's a screenshot from an actual episode. In 1997 I don't think they had much in the way of forums and social networking. They would never have anticipated this sort of dicsussion a decade later..

[illuminumnuts]

Ok, I found the 'Introductions' forum. Cheers for that. I was hoping for a few more responses. Maybe I should have done a poll. I found it pretty compelling myself. When I stumbled on this pic and 'The Matrix' passport pic last year I dug a little deeper myself. This is the 'The Matrix' passport pic:

http://cremationofcare.com/images/911/matrix_passport_9-11_zoom2.JPG

The passport birth date relates to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attica_Prison_Riots#The_retaking_of_the_prison_and _retaliation_by_corrections_officers

I know others also went and found that out themselves, but a little recycling does no harm. Now with the birth date AND the expiry date linked to those 2 events it makes the term 'compelling' an understatement. The passport start date fits with what it would have to be for a standard U.S. passport so I wouldn't read too much into that, though it is a year and a day after Bush's infamous NWO speech. A year and a day is 'supposed' to be a significant measure of time for Occultists and also makes the number 11 which is 'supposed' to be a significant number, but I know little of all that and am just shooting from the hip. Finally, and shooting from the hip again, 'Thomas A. Anderson' is an anagram of 'handsome or satan' I discovered.


Now moving on to 'The Simpsons' pic again. I was aware that it came from Series 9 Episode 1, as gripit pointed out, and was aware it was the episode where Homer visits the World Trade Centre. I then had the idea to look up Series 9 Episode 11 and discovered this:

http://www.thesimpsons.com/recaps/season9/#episode11

It struck me as a very odd type of episode to broadcast mid series. I'd imagine this sort of episode from any TV show would be broadcast as a series opener or a series finale. What struck me as even more odd were the final lines of the synopsis:

'The writers, meanwhile, sing and dance all the way to the bank as the editors put the show together.'

Seemed like an overview of what really happened on 9/11! Now, this is just speculation and I don't like to get lost in speculation, but allied with 'The Matrix' pic I found this too hard to ignore.

One other thing. If you look at that Wikipedia link on the prison riots guess what name crops up? Rockefeller! Here it is:

'Under order of then Governor Nelson Rockefeller, state police took back control of the prison. When the uprising was over at least 39 people were dead, including ten correction officers and civilian employees.'

All ties in nicely with what Russo said in his last major interview. Whoever crafted that passport screenshot was very savvy.