Orgonite Questions and Answers

[biblegirl]

Most of us who are familiar with orgonite have had these questions at one time or another. I will try to post the most common questions and answers here, starting with the basic questions typical of those just hearing about orgonite, and later move on to the “making of orgonite” questions.

Orgonite is a new technology that has been updated and improved since the name was coined by Karl Welz in the 90s, and trademarked in 2005. A good deal of the inventions and improvements we research today have taken place since 2000, when Don and Carol Croft began experimenting with orgonite. It is from the Crofts that the product names CB, TB, and HHG originated. The Croft formula and Welz forumula differ slightly in ingredient forms, although they are based on the same theory. The invention of Orgonite is based on William Reich’s Orgone research from the 1930s. However, the concept of Orgone energy has been around much longer, understood worldwide and known previously as chi, prana, life force energy, ether, etc.

The research and development side of orgonite is unorganized and difficult to view in one place, which is why I felt the need to start this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62867 on orgonite research and effects. This technology is suppressed and a threat to the NWO. This is why I will do everything in my power to spread the word and get the truth out in the open.

The first time I found the word “orgonite” was on an alternative website, which seemed to promote it as a sort of “demon repellent”. I brushed it off quickly as the thought seemed a bit on the far fetched side. Later I read the book “Natural Cures They Don’t Want You To Know About” by Kevin Trudeau, in which he mentioned some sort of pendant that could be worn to protect our bodies from electromagnetic chaos. From there I googled “EMF pendant” and whatever else I could think of until I came across a site selling orgonite products. I ordered a pendant and was so impressed with it, I have been observing and experimenting with orgonite and its effects ever since.

The answers I am providing here are my opinions and understanding of what I have learned so far. If you have a different understanding, or information to add, or something to correct me on, please feel free :).

[biblegirl]

Orgone is what we call the life energy, the basis of all life processes. Many problems experienced environmentally, physically, and emotionally, can be attributed to a blockage of Orgone, or a high concentration of what is known as DOR (Deadly Orgone).

Orgonite is a simple product, generally made with resin, quartz crystal, and metal shavings. Sometimes gemstones, oils, herbs, magnets, and other items are added to the mix, but the most basic form of orgonite includes just the three ingredients (resin, crystal, metal). Orgonite can be considered a DOR converter, as it takes in the deadly energy, converts the energy, then emits this energy as positive orgone. Orgonite is easy enough to make, that an increasing number of people on this forum are making it themselves with great success.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2977/orgonitediagram.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/orgonitediagram.jpg/)
(photo from http://orgonite.info/what-is-orgonite.html)

[biblegirl]

I will answer this as best as I can, it is a little confusing since the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, or referring to very different products. In general, this is what we're dealing with:

First a CB, sometimes called a Cloudbuster or a Chembuster (commonly used to disperse chemtrails and/or change weather conditions for the better)

http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-chembusters.html

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5072/19964697.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19964697.jpg)

(it should be noted that Don Croft also has an herbal remedy by the name ChemBuster)

A typical HHG (holy hand grenade):
http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-orgonite-hhgs.html
A HHG is the perfect personal orgone generator for house and garden, but can also be used to revitalise natural vortexes or neutralise strong DOR emitters in the environment.
It is made from an orgonite cone and has 5 crystals to draw in and diffuse energy.
4 are placed in a cross formation at the bottom (tips pointing outward if single terminated) and one in the top, pointing upward. Originally the HHG was designed to neutralise microwave towers as well, but it was soon found out that for most simple microwave towers much less is needed and since there are so many of these towers, we have to use our resources sparingly

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6448/hhgz.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hhgz.jpg)

(following quotes and photos are from this link http://www.orgonise-africa.net/orgone.html)


TBs or Tower Busters (used at harmful towers/masts and also in gardening, made more for function than for looks):

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3114/44409830.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44409830.jpg)



Earthpipes (generally hammered into the ground):

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7095/earthpipelook.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=earthpipelook.jpg)

[biblegirl]

I recommend the following vendors, although this is only a partial list:

USA:
(don croft’s site) www.worldwithoutparasites.com
http://www.ultimatevision.us/
andy's site http://www.ctbusters.com/cart/orgoneproducts-c-22.html
buy one get one free sale thru july louis onder’s site: (http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/vi...p?p=5269#p5269) http://www.orgoneenergybalancing.org/page3.html


UK vendors:
http://www.thebluesun.co.uk/orgonite.htm
http://www.whale.to/orgone.html
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...link:middle:uk
www.orgonitemoksha.co.uk (forum member rich)

I’ve also received excellent products from these two international companies:

orgonise africa http://orgoniseafrica.com/shop/index...=index&cPath=1
uboslav (canada) http://uboslav.com/

more vendors here:
http://orgonite.info/orgonite-vendors.html

[biblegirl]

This has been an element of confusion when shopping for orgonite, as some products are listed under “orgone”. This may be because the word orgonite is trademarked (a sore subject unfortunately), but many products listed under orgone or orgone generators are in fact what we know of as orgonite.

[biblegirl]

How much orgonite should I get for my house? Where should I put it?

This is a fun question on orgonite effectiveness and how much is "enough". Here are my opinions on this subject: I believe one large hhg or pyramid is a good start in protecting your home from DOR and putting out a good amount of positive orgone. However it is nice to really customize the placement of orgonite for stronger effects...like in your refrigerator, on your incoming power supply, water supply, under your bed. For example, you could put an HHG downstairs, but you might not get the same effects from it being at a distance as, say, you would if you slept over it. A piece of orgonite in the refrigerator is going to positively affect your food more than a piece 20 feet away. I had a lot of orgonite in my house, but it was not until I placed some on my electric power meter that I noticed a drop in my electric bill. Check out this link for more specifics: http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1072488&postcount=1135

[biblegirl]

(referring to pendants or other personal orgonite pieces)

Feeling more energetic and getting better sleep are commonly reported, as well as improved mood and overall sense of well being. Also seems to enhance spiritual aspects.

[biblegirl]

Orgonite placed on your incoming power supply may reduce electric costs, as it has for me and many others.

[biblegirl]

I have heard this reported, but have not yet experienced it myself. I have placed orgonite on the dashboard of my car to see if I got better mileage, and did not notice a difference. However my car was running better than it ever had before, which may have been from the orgonite. I would like to see more orgonite/fuel experiments! I believe the placing of orgonite is a little tricky for this one to work.

[biblegirl]

(see page 1 of the experiments thread) http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=950274&postcount=2

Many reports indicate that a yield of 3X as much (or more) can be experienced when orgonite is used in gardening. Plants appear to thrive when orgonite is in close proximity.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7471/mikeskna.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mikeskna.jpg)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5484/vegreprorest.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vegreprorest.jpg)
(pics from Mark Bennett's gardening experiment http://www.pressdispensary.co.uk/rel...-Brighton-.php)

[biblegirl]

Microwave towers, mobile phone towers, and other areas of radiation or electromagnetic pollution are notorious for their output of DOR. Gifting usually refers to tower busters (orgonite pucks) being placed in areas like these with high DOR concentration, which may then convert the harmful energy to positive orgone. One tower buster is believed to be sufficient in disabling the DOR effects of a typical phone mast or microwave tower. Gifting is not limited to towers only, but is also employed in oceans, lakes, trees, etc. to promote positive orgone energy and support the environment. Many vendors will have a note on their website about the profits from their sales being used to fund gifting expeditions.

[biblegirl]

No. The energy transmutation is perpetual. The only known instance of orgonite's power being compromised involves direct targeting by microwave radiation.

However there is a difference with an orgone accumulator, which takes in DOR but does not transmute it...in this case an accumulator can get "full". Sometimes orgonite is placed side by side with accumulators so this does not cause a problem.

[metacomet]

Microwave towers, mobile phone towers, and other areas of radiation or electromagnetic pollution are notorious for their output of DOR.

Are standard home microwaves a serious problem too?

I can't get my family in the valley to get rid of their microwave I know. But what if I ninja'd a coaster under the microwave? *sigh* It's the least I can do I think.

It still won't stop the damage of them destroying their food at a cellular level but maybe it would dampen the EM pollution?

The scariest thing I have heard about microwaves is that they are scalar weapons which open entry points for lower dimensionals. If orgonite can do anything to stop that, it should be ninja'd under EVERYONE's microwaves. Break into peoples HOUSE and sneak one under their microwave.

[biblegirl]

Are standard home microwaves a serious problem too?

I can't get my family in the valley to get rid of their microwave I know. But what if I ninja'd a coaster under the microwave? *sigh* It's the least I can do I think.

It still won't stop the damage of them destroying their food at a cellular level but maybe it would dampen the EM pollution?

The scariest thing I have heard about microwaves is that they are scalar weapons which open entry points for lower dimensionals. If orgonite can do anything to stop that, it should be ninja'd under EVERYONE's microwaves. Break into peoples HOUSE and sneak one under their microwave.

Wow I have never heard the entry points idea, very interesting!

http://www.warriormatrix.com/about5646.html
This is really incredible - last night tested my "ice cream cone" orgonite on top of the microwave - monitored with a really expensive ELF meter. I was very suprised by the results! There appeared to be a "wave" that rotates around from the orgonite - ELF reading dips way below ambient level - then peaks around 5 - back down to 1.8, etc (would go to 8 or 10 and stay steady at the yard distance I was measuring - when the orgonite was not present).

I put a wire wrapped crystal in the orgonite - I think that really helps.....

Everyone should put orgonite on top of the microwave - really seems to suck up the bad energy and transmute it.

[lauren_almighty]

thanks for the info biblegirl. i've seen some of your other posts and had been wondering what exactly orgonite was and what the benefits were. i think i might order some and try it out some time :)

[metacomet]

If you want to dampen the pollution around something like an air conditioner or I believe you've mentioned the EM radiation from an electric clock,

should the orgonite be placed on top of the device? Is it enough to just put orgonite next to the device?

[sarrin]

I have had a good idea someones proberly already suggested it but here goes... being a plumber, i was thinking that mabey you could put some orgonite on you incoming water main to your house, or even better if you have Cistern fed hot/cold water you could put some orgonite in your water cistern perhaps... alot of places use combi boilers now so not everyone has cisterns. What do u guys think?

[paolo]

I have had a good idea someones proberly already suggested it but here goes... being a plumber, i was thinking that mabey you could put some orgonite on you incoming water main to your house, or even better if you have Cistern fed hot/cold water you could put some orgonite in your water cistern perhaps... alot of places use combi boilers now so not everyone has cisterns. What do u guys think?
You should certainly place orgonite on or in your water system.
It not only orgonises the the water within your home, but gradually spreads back along the water supply for your neighbourhood. Water carries the orgone vibration far and wide, so a vital medium always to gift

[paolo]

Are standard home microwaves a serious problem too?

I can't get my family in the valley to get rid of their microwave I know. But what if I ninja'd a coaster under the microwave? *sigh* It's the least I can do I think.

It still won't stop the damage of them destroying their food at a cellular level but maybe it would dampen the EM pollution?

The scariest thing I have heard about microwaves is that they are scalar weapons which open entry points for lower dimensionals. If orgonite can do anything to stop that, it should be ninja'd under EVERYONE's microwaves. Break into peoples HOUSE and sneak one under their microwave.

Yes. Very interesting thesis, metacomet
The entry theory sounds about right
I once tested the emf field around a recently-tested microwave which was supposedly sealed and safe,with an emf meter, and found a wide field of strong emf extending many metres/yards from the operating microwave, through brick walls and so on
The kindest thing you could do for your family, in a way, would be to take a sledgehammer to their microwave oven, but that would be denying them freedom of choice, I guess

[marpat]

Are standard home microwaves a serious problem too?

I can't get my family in the valley to get rid of their microwave I know. But what if I ninja'd a coaster under the microwave? *sigh* It's the least I can do I think.

It still won't stop the damage of them destroying their food at a cellular level but maybe it would dampen the EM pollution?

The scariest thing I have heard about microwaves is that they are scalar weapons which open entry points for lower dimensionals. If orgonite can do anything to stop that, it should be ninja'd under EVERYONE's microwaves. Break into peoples HOUSE and sneak one under their microwave.

A microwave should be shielded by its design to prevent radiation leaking.

That things about lower dimensions sounds like rubbish. Why would they need microwave cookers for that when there are so many other sources of microwave energy all about us every day.

[paolo]

A microwave should be shielded by its design to prevent radiation leaking.

That things about lower dimensions sounds like rubbish. Why would they need microwave cookers for that when there are so many other sources of microwave energy all about us every day.

Bollox, Marpat. The microwave frequency is everywhere during operation even when perfectly shielded
This is a very strong frequency, much more so than picked off of towers/masts and the like.
Could be a best point of entry when present in the majority of homes.
Trash 'em for sure is my best advice

[yoyoinmyhead]

wait so this orgonite stuff, so I just put it near my plants?
Any plants?
Creepers?
What is the effective range?
Is it line of sight based?
Can the effects pierce materials such as cement, metal, lead?

by what method does this technology work?
I am assuming the metal is some sort of amplifier or reflector for the quartz crystal resonance whilst is is compressed under the heat of the cast (the piezoelectric effect)?

[biblegirl]

Orgonite can be buried a couple inches down with the plants, or placed on the soil near the plants. It is believed that orgonite conducts more effectively when buried, but you can see it has produced amazing results when placed at the surface of the soil.

Here are some other examples where the orgonite is not buried.


(It's worth noting here that the orgonite is not buried, but placed at the surface as shown in the pic on the right, 4 TBs and 1 HHG)

Normal Garden on left, Orgonite Garden on right June 24th:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4864/normalgarden624.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=normalgarden624.jpg)http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1224/orggard624.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orggard624.jpg)

July 13th:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2888/normjuly13.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=normjuly13.jpg)http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2377/orgjuly13.jpg (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orgjuly13.jpg)

August 3rd:
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9787/normaug3.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=normaug3.jpg)http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7179/orgoniteaug3.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orgoniteaug3.jpg)


http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden2.htm

also quote from griswald on a different experiment, who had the orgonite in close proximity to the cabbage plant http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=987748&highlight=garden#post987748:
I had to plant out the cabbage plant that had orgonite in the top of the pot, as it has outgrown its pot , quicker than the other plants. The leaves are a purple tinge on the underside, and its the most healthy looking cabbage plant I have.
Here are some pictures of the plant that has had orgonite in close proximity to it for the last 10-12 days.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1663/img0002rdt.jpg

Orgonite at the plant base.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4717/img0005fvk.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9404/img0004ccb.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6789/img0003oaj.jpg

...

Here is my orgonite and roses experiment, which shows the roses thriving in a vase set on top of an orgonite coaster: http://www.ethericresearch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=30&sid=dd36e4fa624bc31c6603759175f7ad26.

Judging by the photos, it seems the closer the orgonite is to the plant, the more dramatic the results. It is difficult to determine exact range, though it appears that we have a range of anywhere from one to four+ feet away, in which the plants show a strong response (note the result in the top right corner of the control garden, which is closest to the orgonite garden). I think it may also add to the results when an orgonite perimeter is esablished, as shown in the first experiment. That is just speculation on my part though, I would love to see more experiments like this to hopefully establish some guidelines.

[biblegirl]

I encourage everyone to research for themselves to decide whether these subjects are an issue. Here are my opinions :).

What about some orgonite being pyramid shaped?

I don’t believe it is negative, I personally prefer the smoother rounded shapes like the HHGs made in martini glasses, but the pyramids are also nice pieces and they do the job. I am familiar with a case where an orgonite pyramid is used under a chiropractic table to relax the client and actually improve the experience of the adjustment. I have a few orgonite pyramids and feel positivity from them. I am not aware of any reports of ill effects from pyramid shaped orgonite.

What about aluminum used in orgonite?

For those of us who are a bit leery of the mention of the word aluminum, it may come as a surprise that it is a preferred ingredient in orgonite. This is because aluminum is very thin (important in orgone matrix) easily obtained, and apparently makes some of the best orgonite. IMO this is one of the instances where aluminum can be used for good, I wondered about it at first but I have found that orgonite made with aluminum is very effective.

What about magnetics being used in orgonite?

I’ve seen magnets used in orgonite for two purposes: 1) to make a piece that will magnetically attach to refrigerators, signs, and metal objects, and 2) to amplify the properties of the gemstones added. IMO the magnets used in the ways mentioned above are harmless. This is a little controversial, as some people would rather not use magnets because of the field they create, but others see it as a way to enhance the orgonite.

What about orgonite affecting the environment/sea life?

Polyester resin is generally what we use in orgonite makeup, which is also used on boats and is technically organic. Recently a team of gifters was charged with sabatoging a dam because the orgonite was mistakenly thought to somehow cause corrosion or damage, but the gifters were released when the labs discovered the orgonite was harmless. Ocean animals react very positively to orgonite, and dolphins and whales are often reported to move to or return to locations after they have been gifted.

[biblegirl]

If you want to dampen the pollution around something like an air conditioner or I believe you've mentioned the EM radiation from an electric clock,

should the orgonite be placed on top of the device? Is it enough to just put orgonite next to the device?

I have had a good idea someones proberly already suggested it but here goes... being a plumber, i was thinking that mabey you could put some orgonite on you incoming water main to your house, or even better if you have Cistern fed hot/cold water you could put some orgonite in your water cistern perhaps... alot of places use combi boilers now so not everyone has cisterns. What do u guys think?

wait so this orgonite stuff, so I just put it near my plants?
Any plants?
Creepers?
What is the effective range?
Is it line of sight based?
Can the effects pierce materials such as cement, metal, lead?

by what method does this technology work?
I am assuming the metal is some sort of amplifier or reflector for the quartz crystal resonance whilst is is compressed under the heat of the cast (the piezoelectric effect)?

just wanted to say thank you for your questions and i haven't forgotten about you :p! on the questions i haven't answered yet, i am just doing a little more research before i post a reply :D

[doctor_john]

I don't about you but I feel uncomfortable with a lot of crystals, I only use rock crystal or Quartz because I do not like the energies from some of them.

[biblegirl]

http://www.orgonise-africa.net/orgonefaq.html
Answers from orgonise africa on the following questions:

Q: What is the difference between orgonite and classical Wilhelm Reich orgone technology
Q: Can you say something about the ranges of different orgonite tools?
Q: What about the properties of different metals in orgonite?
Q: I want to protect and energise my home. Where should I place the orgonite?
Q: Does orgonite help against negative energy lines crossing my house or plot?

[griswald]

Very informative faq about orgonite biblegirl:)

Compact,concise and well orgonised;)

Marpat......how did you get on with your orgonite .

griswald

[marpat]

Very informative faq about orgonite biblegirl:)

Compact,concise and well orgonised;)

Marpat......how did you get on with your orgonite .

griswald

I have to be honest and say I have seen no obvious changes. Now you could say that I am trying to deny its effects but would I spend £30 to do that? I have not told my wife that I bought the stuff and she doent know what it is anyway but if she notices anything different on a daily level in the house I will take that as a probable result.

Perhaps it depends on the area you live in as well. I live in a nice country location. I dont have any masts right next to me and the only EMF I get is household electrics. If I lived in an area with a lot of negativity then perhaps the changes would be more obvious.

[paolo]

I have to be honest and say I have seen no obvious changes. Now you could say that I am trying to deny its effects but would I spend £30 to do that? I have not told my wife that I bought the stuff and she doent know what it is anyway but if she notices anything different on a daily level in the house I will take that as a probable result.

Perhaps it depends on the area you live in as well. I live in a nice country location. I dont have any masts right next to me and the only EMF I get is household electrics. If I lived in an area with a lot of negativity then perhaps the changes would be more obvious.

Over the longer term, orgonite amplifies and brings about something in you that effects change.
That may not be the change you want, but in the longer term is the change you need, when viewed in retrospect. Being surrounded by orgonite, two rather unwanted changes happened to me within the space of a year. But looking back they were necessary and definitely beneficial

[griswald]

I have to be honest and say I have seen no obvious changes. Now you could say that I am trying to deny its effects but would I spend £30 to do that? I have not told my wife that I bought the stuff and she doent know what it is anyway but if she notices anything different on a daily level in the house I will take that as a probable result.

Perhaps it depends on the area you live in as well. I live in a nice country location. I dont have any masts right next to me and the only EMF I get is household electrics. If I lived in an area with a lot of negativity then perhaps the changes would be more obvious.


Nice to see you are giving it a go...you wont be dissappointed I,m sure. I give it away to friends and family. And when they ask me what will it do, I tell them to let me know what is does for them , if anything. So I dont pre mpt a result by giving them an expectation of one. But something has always happened for them, and I,m sure you,ll see that too.:)

griswald

[doctor_john]

yes that is the point of crystals they can work against you and not for your own beliefs, there is a point in which I do not trust them, there is also a point in which you have to be very careful with them or they will manifest what you do not want, this could lead to psychic attacks that could lead to unwanted change karma problems.

with Orgonite it basically controls it's self sending a direct channeling of energy into positive OR from the deadly form, then yet again you have to have a strong mind to resist other forces where it belives there is no right or wrong where it could zap your own will power because their is always something that wants control even the strongest of minds.

who wants to be possessed by anyones energy that contains thought patterns impulses and desires. one has got to be very careful in what one does with crystals because it could in effect lead to schitzophrenia. there is a lot of energy out their in the ether neither of it's pleasant neither is it to do with god but the perversions by man via the control of spirital forces wanting to pervert mankind through tempation.

infact the bible made us aware of all that, the world will get worse until it gets better for all, for all the damage that is being done cannot be reversable only through the will of god, but their alot of demonics that want to seperate man from woman making the world open for alien domination in a a bid to take over the planet, so be careful!.

[biblegirl]

Doctor John it is true there is a lot of energy in crystals, and I will later post a caution on making orgonite with too many crystals because of the energy field each one creates. I believe orgonite will only affect a person positively though, regardless of what they believe at the time. As paulo pointed out it may not be how you expect, but IMO it will be beneficial. :)

[marpat]

Nice to see you are giving it a go...you wont be dissappointed I,m sure. I give it away to friends and family. And when they ask me what will it do, I tell them to let me know what is does for them , if anything. So I dont pre mpt a result by giving them an expectation of one. But something has always happened for them, and I,m sure you,ll see that too.:)

griswald

I am not trying to preempt the result. I am just going to leave it around and seeing what happens. Lust of result is the enemy of magical success

[metacomet]

Perhaps it depends on the area you live in as well. I live in a nice country location. I dont have any masts right next to me and the only EMF I get is household electrics. If I lived in an area with a lot of negativity then perhaps the changes would be more obvious.

Marpat, I know exactly what you're talking about.

I've been staying in the country with my family this summer but now am back in the city. While in the country there was only so much electromagnetic pollution to combat with the orgonite, but I did notice a pronounced change in my sleeping patterns (I required less sleep and had much more vivid dreams). If you are willing to set some orgonite next to you while you sleep, that in my opinion is a quick and easy way to trial it's energy.

[sarrin]

Got a stainless steel pyramid mold, however iam concerned that the resin will stick in it and i wont be able to get it out once its cured... any suggestions how about if i put some olive oil in the mold prior to pouring?

[doctor_john]

Doctor John it is true there is a lot of energy in crystals, and I will later post a caution on making orgonite with too many crystals because of the energy field each one creates. I believe orgonite will only affect a person positively though, regardless of what they believe at the time. As paulo pointed out it may not be how you expect, but IMO it will be beneficial. :)

it's very interesting it's a sort of experiment science should perform for the right frequencies and balances that could be right for the user.

somehow I have doubts that these things can be easily corrupted due to the fact they possess no right or wrong, only benifical to those people who may blindly see something happen to them until it's too late.

I do have doubts that crystals possess many curses along with forms of bad luck due to their frequenices.

Wilhem Riech discoverd something that was destroyed that probably had the underlying answers to this problem, perhaps a solution to improve it's funtion to be more positively.

[biblegirl]

Got a stainless steel pyramid mold, however iam concerned that the resin will stick in it and i wont be able to get it out once its cured... any suggestions how about if i put some olive oil in the mold prior to pouring?

Yes it will almost certainly stick unless you use a sort of lubricant...I spray all of my molds with silicone lubricant just before pouring. WD-40 is another good one, I believe a forum member here used olive oil as a lubricant at some point, I'll try to find that one :).

[diamond dogs]

I am moving house next week and plan to make some Orgonite for the new house and want to start on a positive note (had lots of negative energy of late). I picked up a mixture of Ali, S Steel and metal shavings today..shall I try different mixes of metals or keep them seperate?

What crystal types and sizes (do we break them up) shall I use for eg Martini glass type moulds?

Where is the best place in the house to place them..

Thx

[rubes]

I know terminted quartz are commonly used in hgg's, but what are tumbled quartz used for/in and do they work in the same way as tumbled quartz in hgg's

Also can you have 'too many' quartz/ crystals in orgonite, is there a 'set' amount people tend to stick to when inserting them into hgg's, tb's etc etc

cheers
phil

[biblegirl]

great questions everyone :) i have a giant post on crystals coming that should be especially helpful, i'll try to have the crystals and pouring information posted tonight so you'll be all set for the weekend

[biblegirl]

Yes. The resin and metal matrix without a crystal is still classified as orgonite. The addition of the crystal enhances the strength of the orgonite, directing the energy, as well as introducing a level of intelligence.


One significant feature for calling a mix of resin and metal "orgonite", be it Welz´s or Croft´s approach, is that the surface of the metal particles encasted within the resin exceeds multiplicatively the surface of the device itself.
Another important feature for calling it "orgonite" is the use of resin that cures in a way that it has a crystaline matrix, when the process is done.
The use of wax, or hot glue and other similar stuff ....all that doesn´t have a cristalline matrix when hardening, won´t do the transmutation job from DOR to OR, but just accumulate DOR, as has been detected by reputable energy sensitives.
http://8ung.at/mhotwagner/researchforum/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=31&sid=b13f496234ac667026f0da8c7babc610

[biblegirl]

Some things I have learned through trial and error :D:

Orgonite is a little on the fragile side, and I would recommend that personal and decorative pieces be handled with care. The resin is not invincible and will sometimes chip around the sides. I am finding new ways of making a protective coat for the orgonite so this is not an issue.

Is orgonite fireproof/waterproof/freezerproof?

I recently lined the outside of a campsite firepit with tower busters and the ones that got too close got some burn marks. Also I immersed some orgonite pieces in water and they seemed to absorb some water at the base, and later dry out. Some orgonite placed in the freezer will crack. So these are things to consider when experimenting or testing with orgonite :).

[marpat]

Marpat, I know exactly what you're talking about.

I've been staying in the country with my family this summer but now am back in the city. While in the country there was only so much electromagnetic pollution to combat with the orgonite, but I did notice a pronounced change in my sleeping patterns (I required less sleep and had much more vivid dreams). If you are willing to set some orgonite next to you while you sleep, that in my opinion is a quick and easy way to trial it's energy.

Already done that. I dont recall dreams as much as I used to, probably due to working routines, etc. It was one of my big things and I have an A4 lever arch file full of them. At times I also have lucid dreams. This was all before putting the orgonite there. I often think that my work environment is draining as I am often exhausted for no reason. I work in the middle of nowhere on a barren hill. I might actually place some covertly about the place and see if it makes a difference there.

I have read a tiny amount on Reichs ideas of the orgone chamber and how sites like Newgrange may be built on similar concepts and find it all fascinating. I am really interested in ley energies and wonder if orgonite could have the effect of turning negative leys into positive. I have a stream running under the house, or very close underground to the house and have read that water lines can have a negative effect compared to aquastats. Perhaps that is why I have had bad luck with injuries this year.

[biblegirl]

This is a tricky question, because we are dealing with an invisible energy. I don’t have the instruments to measure orgone, although I have heard it can be done with a modified Geiger counter, and the effects of orgonite may be detected with a trimeter. Many of the orgonite guidelines available to us can be credited to energy sensitive people who can see and feel the energy to the extent that they can say with some confidence what works well and what does not. My skills here are underdeveloped, and I cannot detect the energy well enough to tell someone else yes that is good orgonite, or assure how far the orgone travels, etc. I am using my intuition and best guesses to answer this question for myself. I think aura photography gives a glimpse of orgone range of effectiveness, although I would not consider it a thoroughly conclusive method.

http://www.lifeforcegenerators.com/auras.html
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2963/aurascone.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.phpimage=aurascone.jpg)http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/293/conex.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conex.jpg)

I am discovering that there is a difference between general placement and direct application for orgonite. Like in my roses experiment, the orgonite was applied directly to the vase, rather than just being in the same room as the roses. This direct application yielded dramatic results, that general placement in the room did not. Does this mean a piece of orgonite won’t “work” from 10 feet away? Not necessarily, just that direct application might give us results that we may not notice from general placement. It would seem in this case, the closer the better. One tower buster placed near a typical mast is believed to be sufficient in collecting and transmuting DOR from that mast. HHGs were previously used to accomplish this, but it was found a simple tower buster did the job just as well. I applied different sized orgonite to my electric meter and got the same results in decreased kw/h usage with each piece. So, we don’t even need conclude that the bigger the better. At some point I hope to establish a sort of guideline chart that will show which pieces cause the energy to spread which direction and how far, how much etc.

[biblegirl]

I have read a tiny amount on Reichs ideas of the orgone chamber and how sites like Newgrange may be built on similar concepts and find it all fascinating. I am really interested in ley energies and wonder if orgonite could have the effect of turning negative leys into positive. I have a stream running under the house, or very close underground to the house and have read that water lines can have a negative effect compared to aquastats. Perhaps that is why I have had bad luck with injuries this year.

Ley lines are a big interest for me as well. Here is a post I made about a negative ley line being turned into positive with a combination of 6 TBs, but when the TB arrangement was removed the line went back to negative. Very interesting. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1045327&postcount=875

[marpat]

Talking about measuring the effects, what about using a pendulum?

If orgonite converts negative energy to positive then wont the range of it depend on how much energy it is converting, ie. if there is only a small amount of negative energy then its effective radius may be small.

[marpat]

Ley lines are a big interest for me as well. Here is a post I made about a negative ley line being turned into positive with a combination of 6 TBs, but when the TB arrangement was removed the line went back to negative. Very interesting. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1045327&postcount=875

Interesting but is there any specific reason why you chose such a layout? I have read that you can also convert leys by using angle irons if correctly placed. I think it would be a fascinating to see what the result would be if people located large concentration of negative ley energy and then converted them. I guess the real problem is that the best places of study would be on farm/ private land.

[biblegirl]

Talking about measuring the effects, what about using a pendulum?

If orgonite converts negative energy to positive then wont the range of it depend on how much energy it is converting, ie. if there is only a small amount of negative energy then its effective radius may be small.

Yes pendulums and dowsing are commonly used to test effectiveness.

On the second topic I am still researching to find out if orgonite produces positive orgone in the absence of DOR. :)

[biblegirl]

If you want to dampen the pollution around something like an air conditioner or I believe you've mentioned the EM radiation from an electric clock,

should the orgonite be placed on top of the device? Is it enough to just put orgonite next to the device?

I think on top of, below, or next to the device will work great. The way I have been told orgonite appears to transmute, is when it is placed next to a DOR generator, the orgonite "sucks" in the smokey looking harmful energies from the whole area it is being emitted, then emits the positive orgone in any given direction. In light of this, I don't know that it will make too significant a difference where it is placed for these devices. My preference is to have the orgonite between me and the device, so it feels like more of a shield. More opinions and comments on this are welcome :).

[biblegirl]

I have had a good idea someones proberly already suggested it but here goes... being a plumber, i was thinking that mabey you could put some orgonite on you incoming water main to your house, or even better if you have Cistern fed hot/cold water you could put some orgonite in your water cistern perhaps... alot of places use combi boilers now so not everyone has cisterns. What do u guys think?

You should certainly place orgonite on or in your water system.
It not only orgonises the the water within your home, but gradually spreads back along the water supply for your neighbourhood. Water carries the orgone vibration far and wide, so a vital medium always to gift

Yes I think these are great ideas, and it is true that water acts as a supreme conductor with orgonite. :)

[biblegirl]

I ordered my resin as well as most of my crystals online from ebay sellers. For the metal shavings I went to the local machine and welding shops and asked for the scraps and turnings, which they gave me for free.

Polyester Resin Suppliers:

USA:
Home Depot
Fiberglass Supply Stores
I got my resin (not clear) from this ebay seller, includes wax and hardener: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/fiberglass-cloth-Polyester-Resin-with-hardner-and-wax_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1205Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZ p3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem5632fde042QQitemZ370222 686274QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts#ht_1109wt_1197
UK:
http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/-c-41_96.html
http://www.resin-supplies.net/10140/info.php?p=2&cat=48566

Crystals suppliers:

http://www.whale.to/orgone/crystals.htm
http://www.manchesterminerals.co.uk/acatalog/Wands___Pendulums.html#a23_2d422
www.Ultimatevision.us

Metal and other orgone supplies:

www.Ultimatevision.us

[biblegirl]

Usually the clear resin is more expensive and has the word "clear" in the title or description. When I first poured my polyester resin from the fiberglass supply site, it came out with a pink tint to it. When I added the hardener, it turned light brownish. Here are the finished products from that batch:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9381/pict1181rev0.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/pict1181rev0.jpg/)


What color the resin turns out to will depend on the supplier. You can also add pigments to clear resin to make your orgonite whatever color you'd like.

[biblegirl]

Polyester Resin + hardener (also called MEPK or catalyst)
Small metal shavings (turnings, scraps, the thinner the better)
Quartz crystals (tumbled, terminated, or chunks)
Lubricant (silicone or WD-40)
Molds (muffin pans, martini glasses)

miscellaneous:

tabletop or flat surface (resin may drip so surface should be protected)
rubber gloves (the resin is sticky)
syringe for measuring correct amount of hardener
pitcher to pour resin from and something to mix it with (I used a fork)

It can be a messy job your first pour!
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8609/pict1150rev0.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/pict1150rev0.jpg/)

[doctor_john]

what I would like to do is get a hold of conductive Carbon somewhere and add that to my resin, the results would be interesting I don't think noone has tried that.

I want to know if the solidified Resin is poisonous to touch through skin contact, some people don't seem to think so they think it's ok.

[biblegirl]

The classic molds used for making orgonite include martini glasses and muffin pans, as they are easy and hassle free. Silicone molds are preferred, but regular glass or thick metal molds will do well for orgonite. Spray the molds with lubricant before filling so that your finished pieces will come out easily.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/755/martiniglass.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/martiniglass.jpg/)http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1044/pict1166rev0.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/pict1166rev0.jpg/)

[biblegirl]

What NOT to use as a mold:

Wine Glasses or Goblets:

Any mold with a shape that is narrower at the opening than the widest part, or has an indent in the shape, will not allow pieces to come back out.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7006/wineglassr.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/wineglassr.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9638/daqb.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/daqb.jpg/)

Plastic:

Here is the result from my pouring into plastic measuring spoons. The orgonite will not come out of the spoons.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/405/pict1151rev0.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/pict1151rev0.jpg/)

Thin or weak molds:

When the orgonite is curing it gets very hot and will melt a thin or flimsy mold.

[doctor_john]

quite a good mold here if your wanting to make Chi pendants of Orgonite.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv1/DOCTORJOHNISLOVE/V289.jpg

[biblegirl]

What kind of crystals should I get for my orgonite? Which are the best?

Clear quartz is easy to find and quite affordable...you may opt for points, terminated, tumbled, or quartz chunks. They will all work great. Roze quartz and citrine quartz are used for softer effects.

From what I understand, Lemurian Seed crystals are the top of the line crystals for orgonite.

What is the difference between single terminated and double terminated?

Termination refers to the crystal coming to a natural point. Single terminated (or crystal points) have one natural point, double terminated have two:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4650/singletcrystal.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/i/singletcrystal.jpg/)http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/760/dtcrystals.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/dtcrystals.jpg/)

Energy is directed in a one-way direction through the point of the single terminated, and energy is directed in two-ways directions through the points of the double terminated.

What is "charging" the crystals before pouring orgonite?

This is basically clearing the energy of the crystal you will be using in your orgonite and giving it a charge. There are different ways to do it. The easiest way is to place your crystals in some water and set them out in the sunlight for a few hours. Some people charge their crystals by setting them on top of orgonite or a cloudbuster. Some wrap the crystal with copper wire. Some charge it through visualization. What I do is set my crystals in water over an orgonite coaster and set it out in the sunlight for 4 or 5 hours before I pour:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1363/pict1148rev0.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/pict1148rev0.jpg/)

Is it necessary to wrap my crystal in copper for HHGs?

This is more of a personal preference than a necessity, you can coil your quartz or leave it as it is. It is believed that the properties of the quartz can be amplified through this method:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4937/wrappedcrystal.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/wrappedcrystal.jpg/)

How many crystals should I put in my orgonite?

I use one per piece. If it is the HHG shape in the martini glass, I use a large single terminated quartz pointing to the bottom of the glass (which will be the top of the finished HHG). The more crystals do not necessarily mean stronger or better orgonite. Each crystal generates its own field, so adding more can possibly confuse the direction of the energy a bit. I use one just to be safe :). The small chunks are generally used in TBs or buttons, while the fancy and terminated crystals might be preferred for decorative and personal orgonite.

What about the 5 crystal layout for HHGs?

Many of the HHG tutorials show how to arrange a double terminated quartz vertically and 4 quartz points horizontally. This was the original layout for HHGs, but it has been discovered since then that one crystal will do a fine job, as it is the metal and resin matrix which does most of the work, while the crystal is added to enhance.

(terminated crystal and wrapped crystal pics from these links: http://crystal-cure.com/crystal-points-dblterm.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-LARGE-WIRE-WRAPPED-RARE-LEMURIAN-CRYSTAL-For-ORGONE_W0QQitemZ290329307206QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4398f9a846&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1205|293:1|294:50)

[guuna]

I'm quite new to orgonite, ordered my first pieces about a month ago, a pendant and got a freebie cake mould piece.

I do feel more energetic and positive.

Just cast my first piece of orgonite a week ago in a sort of hhg confirguaration, turned out a bit messy as the wine glass i used as a mould had to be broken to retrieve the hhg, but still not to bad for a first effort I suppose.

QUESTION: I make homebrew beer, could the use of orgonite enhance/improve the flavour/ quality?

[rubes]

Can orgonite be placed 'inderwater'?

I have some turtles which i have pulled through a slight case of shell rot (had it when i bought them) and was wondering if i could add it to their tank as a 'healing' energy?

cheers

[rich]

Can orgonite be placed 'inderwater'?

I have some turtles which i have pulled through a slight case of shell rot (had it when i bought them) and was wondering if i could add it to their tank as a 'healing' energy?

cheers

Be careful Rubes, I would only place some to the side or under a tank, I recall folks trying this before in a fish tank and killing some of the fish (may have still been outgassing, but I would avoid anyway, suspect the lack of circulation of water might be an issue).

[rich]

what I would like to do is get a hold of conductive Carbon somewhere and add that to my resin, the results would be interesting I don't think noone has tried that.

I want to know if the solidified Resin is poisonous to touch through skin contact, some people don't seem to think so they think it's ok.

Lots of folks have used Carbon, myself included, personally didn't get any elevation to the results, but understand the reasoning.

I don't know of anybody saying they had any reaction to skin contact, as long as it is thoroughly set, it can take up to a month for the outgassing to stop, which would be my only real concern.

[2013]

Originally Posted by metacomet
Marpat, I know exactly what you're talking about.

I've been staying in the country with my family this summer but now am back in the city. While in the country there was only so much electromagnetic pollution to combat with the orgonite, but I did notice a pronounced change in my sleeping patterns (I required less sleep and had much more vivid dreams). If you are willing to set some orgonite next to you while you sleep, that in my opinion is a quick and easy way to trial it's energy.Already done that. I dont recall dreams as much as I used to, probably due to working routines, etc. It was one of my big things and I have an A4 lever arch file full of them. At times I also have lucid dreams. This was all before putting the orgonite there. I often think that my work environment is draining as I am often exhausted for no reason.
.

I have noticed that since placing orgonite next to bed or under ,as well as small piece under pillow my dreams are not so vivid? I always recall my dreams , for over 20 years now particularly . I have journals like you kept over a 7 year period .I stopped this severel years back but always still remember . The sleep i had changed due to placement of orgonite . deeper and more relaxed when i woke up . Strange how it affected my dream state though . perhaps it has the opposite effect on people ,as in your case as well :D

[sarrin]

My first HHG pyramid is curing as we speak, i guess i should proberly leave it 24 hours.. I looked up about crystals on the internet and decided to cleanse and charge my DT quartz using fresh sea water and sun light. I poured with care trying to avoid air bubbles, so i hope its going to turn out well also added some trans red die to spice it up a little bit.

[biblegirl]

The scariest thing I have heard about microwaves is that they are scalar weapons which open entry points for lower dimensionals.

Here is a post i wrote for the "incoming energy" thread.

Forumers are reporting symptoms experienced lately, that can be categorized as advanced tech induced symptoms (electronic harassment/control), and/or paranormal incidents. Here is my response to that, which could very well explain the theory you mentioned on microwaves:

We are dealing with an energy called DOR (deadly orgone) which is basically a stale, stagnating, and dangerous conversion of positive life force energy (chi, prana, ether, etc.). Things like HAARP, chemtrails, and microwaves are causing DOR, which affects everything vibrationally as well as physically. I believe the DOR is compatible vibrationally with the lower fourth entities, and TPTB are increasing DOR output and conversion, possibly to facilitate the energies needed by these entities for their own technologies. The DOR from these projects are negatively affecting us (through EMFs and radiation as well), and the more sources for DOR that continue to be employed, the more interference we will experience physically, mentally, and vibrationally.

Someone posted about the recent conversion from analog to digital TV, how the old TV antennas (which should have gone inactive) are now showing a drastic increase in activity. From this we have concluded that there was a need for the old analog antennas to be freed up, to be made fully available for technology like HAARP, rather than cluttered with TV signals, thus the conversion to digital. I think some of what people are experiencing, an increase in both paranormal incidents AND electronic type mind control, can be linked to this conversion. It is changing the vibrational state of the environment with the DOR energy, allowing an increase in power to the lower fourth dimension. I am not entirely sure yet whether the connection to the entities is a primary agenda, or more of a by-product (?) as I believe the mind control/electronic harassment is a big part too.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72290&page=7.

In addition to this, I recall reading somewhere (sorry I don't have a link) that chemtrails are actually aiding alien craft technology, by using DOR. This corroborates with my conclusions above.

[minifranco]

Hi all,

Got a question concerning sleep and orgonite.

Why do some people report sleeping like a baby, and others experience vivid dreaming, not being able to sleep?

What could these different reactions mean?

Is there a place I can check up on this?

For me, the last 2 nights sleeping with a pendant and ogonite next to my bed, my dreams are extremely vivid. Sometimes I cannot tell if it really is a dream. Nothing frightening though. I'm just curious if dreaming this way will continue or will I be able to sleep "like a baby."

Thanks everyone

[anthony65]

Hi all,

Got a question concerning sleep and orgonite.

Why do some people report sleeping like a baby, and others experience vivid dreaming, not being able to sleep?

What could these different reactions mean?

Is there a place I can check up on this?

For me, the last 2 nights sleeping with a pendant and ogonite next to my bed, my dreams are extremely vivid. Sometimes I cannot tell if it really is a dream. Nothing frightening though. I'm just curious if dreaming this way will continue or will I be able to sleep "like a baby."

Thanks everyone

It clearly depends on the individual and it depends very much on what is on your mind before you sleep, what is tucked away in your subconcious and what kind of external influences you are subjected to at a given time.

I have loads of orgonite around me and although I don't sleep like a baby, I don't have too many disturbed nights... I had some very disturbed nights prior to getting my orgonite!

I would recommend anyone to wind down before going to sleep. Try to let go of any stress and activity in your head. Think of a few of your favourite things and go to sleep with a smile! :)

[2013]

It clearly depends on the individual and it depends very much on what is on your mind before you sleep, what is tucked away in your subconcious and what kind of external influences you are subjected to at a given time.

I have loads of orgonite around me and although I don't sleep like a baby, I don't have too many disturbed nights... I had some very disturbed nights prior to getting my orgonite!

I would recommend anyone to wind down before going to sleep. Try to let go of any stress and activity in your head. Think of a few of your favourite things and go to sleep with a smile! :)

I always sleep well and relax with some music before sleep . I had very deep peaceful sleep when first getting my orgonite and also noticed a difference when changing the piece i had next to the bed .My dreams which i always recal were more vivid at first , but now i seem to struggle to recal them :D

[doctor_john]

don't forget a lot of mind manipulation is going to that is affecting our subconcious mind, the Orgonite picks up on that which is a warning of the bull that whoever is feeding you with, not your mind or imagination.

somehow your cause for concern that is stimulating the Reptilian brain.

[biblegirl]

What kind of crystals should I get for my orgonite? Which are the best?

Clear quartz is easy to find and quite affordable...you may opt for points, terminated, tumbled, or quartz chunks. They will all work great. Roze quartz and citrine quartz are used for softer effects.

From what I understand, Lemurian Seed crystals are the top of the line crystals for orgonite.


I just realized that I listed rose quartz and citrine as being used for softer effects, but I should have said "different" effects. Here is a post from EW that gives a bit of information on gemstone combinations, and says citrine should be used carefully: http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=764

[biblegirl]

Hi all,

Got a question concerning sleep and orgonite.

Why do some people report sleeping like a baby, and others experience vivid dreaming, not being able to sleep?

What could these different reactions mean?

Is there a place I can check up on this?

For me, the last 2 nights sleeping with a pendant and ogonite next to my bed, my dreams are extremely vivid. Sometimes I cannot tell if it really is a dream. Nothing frightening though. I'm just curious if dreaming this way will continue or will I be able to sleep "like a baby."

Thanks everyone

Hello minifranco, these are great questions :). I also wondered why some people report deep sleep the first time, yet others report disrupted sleep.

In some cases, I think this can be from varying degrees of energy sensitivity in each person. It may also have something to do with the different sizes and strength of orgonite, and whether a person is used to those energies. It sounds like you got a few powerful pieces of orgonite all at once, so this may be how you are adjusting.

Here is my detailed report on orgonite affecting my sleep (I experienced disrupted sleep my first night over an HHG):
http://8ung.at/mhotwagner/researchforum/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=39&sid=691f9fc8b7127eecf4b0d02a4d30fa43

NOW I am sleeping like a baby :p. I hope this helps. :)

[biblegirl]

This is something I would like to address, since some have reported headaches when they make or receive their first pieces of orgonite. As far as I gather from the reports, this is temporary and is probably an adjustment to the orgone. It appears to last 1 or 2 days to even a week. I'd like to hear comments on this if it has been a problem for anyone for longer than that. Also I am curious to see if this is all orgonite or only orgonite made with certain types of metals. Something I will look into more in depth. :)

[biblegirl]

I found this post which gives some estimated distances of effectiveness:

Size range? I assume you mean the range of effect which orgonite produces, from this I will respond - TB's are basic 3oz orgonite blocks, which are said to have a general range or 1/4 mile, however this is very dependant on the area (countryside with little or no negative sources will have a long range, dense urban populations with numerous DOR sources will likely be much lower). This is in terms of scalar effect, and, the ability to asborb and transmute ELF/EMF like DOR, there is also a much more localised Ionising effect which just runs into feet in distance (a few metres). HHg's are larger 9-12oz or so, these again have a range of up to 2miles, though more often probably around half a mile (scalar) and maybe 15ft ionising. Then cloudbusters have a range of up to 50miles scalar.http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5726&postcount=28

(may have been updated as this is from 2007)

[biblegirl]

I would like to tell you all to avoid the use of cluster crystals in orgonite. The energy gets sent in multiple directions creating a chaos field. Also, you have to be careful not to mix stones into the mix that don't work well with each other such as kyanite with silver aqua aura. Garnets, hemitite, and turquoise are excellent additives. The orgonite amplifies the crystals. I have found that cones that are the same height as width are the most effective shapes to use. Polyester fiberglass resin works better that epoxy.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6876&postcount=35

[biblegirl]

Does white quartz rock work for orgonite?

I have not yet tried white quartz in my orgonite, but here is a post I found on the subject:

I read some where (and I can’t find it), that event quartz found in gravel would do so I started sourcing white and rose quartz as I mentioned in my post. In time I took these to energy workers who said there was ‘a lot’ of energy in them, one of the commenting that the energy was green.

Having read your post I went to www.warriormatrix.com and did a search on ‘quartz’ and not unsurprisingly it brought up a lot of replies  .
Quite a few suggesting that white quartz were OK for TBs including this one:-

“Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject:

I've used clear quartz points and white quartz This is an answer Stevo gave when I asked about using clear/white and rose quartz for tb's

Quote:

Eric G,

Last year my wife, Dooney, and I went on an adventure (camping/gifting run) with Don and Carol Croft and Ryan McGinty. This was in the Bitterroot Mountains on the border of Idaho and Western Montana. We were in the area of Monitor Mine. Of course there were still many piles of rock (mining tailings) all about the area. Lots of chips of white quartz, and bigger hunks too. When D and C gave the green light to use these for tb production I bagged up about 40lbs worth and still have a supply remaining. You're good to go partner!

As Patrick pointed out, BE SURE to wear face/eye protection cause the chards generated from impacts with hammers are tiny projectiles that'll do damage to unprotected eyes! Good luck and let's hear about your successes gifting!

Stevo “
http://www.warriormatrix.com/about18...ghlight=quartz
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5204&postcount=25

[biblegirl]

How and Why does orgonite work?

LOL I have been attempting to find a comprehensive answer to this for a while, and may have finally stumbled across it tonight!! The hows and whys:



Here’s a little about how Orgone Matrix Material works:

Organic substances attract and hold Scalar / Orgone charge, while metallic substances tend to repel it. Basically, Ergonite pulls in the Bioenergy, and while the energy is inside the device, The metal particles and organic resin both push and pull on it in all directions at the same time. This puts friction on the energy. The friction is great enough at many small points within the matrix to cause the energy to shift upwards in spectrum to Aether, so that it temporarily ceases to exist as a part of the electromagnetic spectrum. When the energy comes back out of the device, it collapses back into an organized, defined state and comes into existence as bioenergy / magnetism.

Quantum physicists have discovered that subatomic particles pop in and out of existence as they shift state back and forth between the states of matter and Aether. The same effects take place with waved energies in the electromagnetic spectrum. Different forms of energy appear and disappear as they shift in spectrum back and forth between Aether and lower spectral forms of energy. In the case of a TB, because of the density, when the bioenergy appears again, it has lost the radionic data it was carrying, the wave patterns it was carrying. Those wave patterns are a large part of what makes the bioenergy “healthy” or “unhealthy” for you and other life forms. This same Aetheric flux within the Ergonite has the effect not only of changing Bioenergy from one form to another, but also the property of‘generating’ Bioenergy when stimulated by other kinds of energy... like light, sound, physical motion, or electricity.

Ergonite can change DOR (harmful Bioenergy) to OR (Healthy Bioenergy). When energy percolates through the matrix, it is in effect reduced to its component polarities. It is then recombined and emitted. The act of being broken down into its positive and negative charges and recombined has the effect of restoring the orgone to a ‘base’ state. Unless a specific wave pattern is impressed on it within the device, it comes out of the Orgone Matrix Material as more or less undifferentiated Bioenergy. When the energy exits the material, the conditions which 'force' it to exist in an undefined state no longer exist, and so it collapses back into a defined state, and is 'colored' (impressed with a Bioenergy wave pattern) to varying degree by the exact composition of the matrix material.

Many devices which employ Orgonite Matrix Material function as Bioenergy Generators, But Ergonite does not actually generate Bioenergy, in the truest sense of the word. Ergonite, when excited with other forms of energy, both converts a portion of the energy used to excite it into bioenergy, and draws additional energy from the Aether, and releases it as Bioenergy. Having understood this, for practical intents and purposes, it can be said that Ergonite 'Generates Orgone’ on demand when excited by scalar waves, magnetic fields, heat, sound, light, electrical energy, kinetic energy, and bioenergy.
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/arthoworgoniteworks.htm

[anthony65]

I found this post which gives some estimated distances of effectiveness:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5726&postcount=28

(may have been updated as this is from 2007)

Regarding distances and effectiveness...

This bit stands out..

countryside with little or no negative sources will have a long range, dense urban populations with numerous DOR sources will likely be much lower

I think some of the early effects of orgonite must have been stunning. When orgonite hits solid DOR territory, the effects are massive...

But year after year the number of towers and masts, the modern day sources of DOR increase and are upgraded.

I would say to focus on the effects in the skies, but most of us are now living close to more masts and towers than you could ever imagine. Once you start looking for them you'll be amazed (and there are hidden sources of DOR plus disguised masts and towers so you have to look close and follow your intuition).

My feeling is that for TBs up to 100 metres is a good rule of thumb. But 200 or 300 metres is okay if you can't get any closer.

For HHGs up to 400 metres. Again, they could even be a little further out if you can't get closer or if you already have pieces in closer.

Different towers / masts will need different amounts of orgonite to do the job. If you've made a big effort to get out into the middle of nowhere, then gift thoroughly and mix your distances. If you are in a town or city with loads of masts, then potentially the masts are so close together that your orgonite will be helping to gift more than one tower. Focus on finding long lasting hiding places!

Mix and match your orgonite. Some pieces can go closer, especially if you find a nice home for them, and some pieces can go a bit further away.

If you have some pieces up close, then you could leave an insurance piece or pieces a little further away.

Use your imagination and don't mind the dirt and scratches. Let your orgonite rest in peace! :)

[equinox]

I have made TBs with very small pieces of quartz crystal, i smashed up a piece of quartz (in a tea towel) with a hammer, I used bits that were 2-3 mm by 2-3 mm, and then aluminium foil scrunched up, or folded into 5mm squares, then put the resin in.

I have also used the steel scourers, cut up into pieces, and i do think that the ones with foil in were abit stronger.

I am going to make a piece or two using sugar see:-

www.Orgone-art.com

happy gifting!

[biblegirl]

Regarding distances and effectiveness...

This bit stands out..

countryside with little or no negative sources will have a long range, dense urban populations with numerous DOR sources will likely be much lower

I think some of the early effects of orgonite must have been stunning. When orgonite hits solid DOR territory, the effects are massive...

But year after year the number of towers and masts, the modern day sources of DOR increase and are upgraded.

I would say to focus on the effects in the skies, but most of us are now living close to more masts and towers than you could ever imagine. Once you start looking for them you'll be amazed (and there are hidden sources of DOR plus disguised masts and towers so you have to look close and follow your intuition).

My feeling is that for TBs up to 100 metres is a good rule of thumb. But 200 or 300 metres is okay if you can't get any closer.

For HHGs up to 400 metres. Again, they could even be a little further out if you can't get closer or if you already have pieces in closer.

Different towers / masts will need different amounts of orgonite to do the job. If you've made a big effort to get out into the middle of nowhere, then gift thoroughly and mix your distances. If you are in a town or city with loads of masts, then potentially the masts are so close together that your orgonite will be helping to gift more than one tower. Focus on finding long lasting hiding places!

Mix and match your orgonite. Some pieces can go closer, especially if you find a nice home for them, and some pieces can go a bit further away.

If you have some pieces up close, then you could leave an insurance piece or pieces a little further away.

Use your imagination and don't mind the dirt and scratches. Let your orgonite rest in peace! :)

Thank you anthony, these are some very good tips you gave, it is always nice to have the opinion of an experienced gifter!

You are right about the massive increase in DOR sources, I have seen towers (poorly) disguised as trees and it is very sad. I agree it is a good idea to gift multiples in case they are picked up by someone and taken home as a souveneir :p.

[metacomet]

This was in the Bitterroot Mountains on the border of Idaho and Western Montana. We were in the area of Monitor Mine. Of course there were still many piles of rock (mining tailings) all about the area. Lots of chips of white quartz, and bigger hunks too. When D and C gave the green light to use these for tb production I bagged up about 40lbs worth and still have a supply remaining.

Wow! the Bitterroot Mountains are close to me actually, and yes it's easy to find quartz rocks. I have taken to picking them up since my first hiking days and that was long before realizing that orgonite could use quartz.

Good to know that they are viable energy sources, and I agree with them having a 'green' energy, if anything. White quartz is far more variable and imprinted by the area it is found in. Sometimes it has yellow or golden coloring. Other areas it is whiter than white. My favorite rock for sure.

[13thlevel]

Hi! All
I've recently got several pounds of bronze shavings. May I use them in my orgonite pyramids? I'm asking this because as far as I have read here and there, not all metals are orgonite friendly; some more, some less.
Thx in advance
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[rich]

Hi! All
I've recently got several pounds of bronze shavings. May I use them in my orgonite pyramids? I'm asking this because as far as I have read here and there, not all metals are orgonite friendly; some more, some less.
Thx in advance
---

My experience with bronze is that it works very nicely, personally I don't think quite as strong as aluminium, but maybe a little smoother (ignoring all the other factors), Cesco disagrees with me over this and thinks it is sligtly stronger (so it's no statement by me saying 'this is how it is'), however, the only caveat I would offer, is that I have had several pieces with an icky energy from using brass is tiny particles ala dust (this has been confirmed by Laozu and another expeienced gifted dan aka baligifter).

I am not passing this as fact, just my truth.

For field/gifting pieces, pretty much any type of metal shaving will work pretty well (below nail size, which is largely agreed to be to big in terms of thickness, though if that was all I had I would use it).

Best Wishes

Rich

[13thlevel]

Hi! Rich:
Thx a lot for your observations on bronze. It's fine because I'm adding it to the top of my pyramids. This is 2 targets: bronze is orgonite "friendly", and at the end, also looks nice once finished.
About brass, ... ... here I'm quite upset because at the same time I got bronze shavings I got also several punds of brass pieces, discs (see image),
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/170/brassdiscssmall.jpg
very thin rings, ovals, etc. largest size shown in pic is half inch and smaller ones. I have added a small amount of these last to some of my orgonite devices, just to make them to look nice, and I'm afraid I could have ruined them. I realize one must fit to basics, ... normal metal shavings, quartz and resine but I can not avoid to make changes in spite of that I'm not NRG sensitive. Silly!!!!!!
Thx again
---

[cryst4l]

Hi Biblegirl :)

Can you grow orgonite? I'm sure I read somewhere that you could :confused: although I may be way off the mark.

Thanks

[biblegirl]

Hi! Rich:
Thx a lot for your observations on bronze. It's fine because I'm adding it to the top of my pyramids. This is 2 targets: bronze is orgonite "friendly", and at the end, also looks nice once finished.
About brass, ... ... here I'm quite upset because at the same time I got bronze shavings I got also several punds of brass pieces, discs (see image),
very thin rings, ovals, etc. largest size shown in pic is half inch and smaller ones. I have added a small amount of these last to some of my orgonite devices, just to make them to look nice, and I'm afraid I could have ruined them. I realize one must fit to basics, ... normal metal shavings, quartz and resine but I can not avoid to make changes in spite of that I'm not NRG sensitive. Silly!!!!!!
Thx again
---

i don't see any reason why the addition of those discs would have ruined the orgonite :) i'm interested in pictures of your new devices if you get a chance

[biblegirl]

Hi Biblegirl :)

Can you grow orgonite? I'm sure I read somewhere that you could :confused: although I may be way off the mark.

Thanks

Hmm, not that I've heard of :D. You can grow crystals though :).

[cryst4l]

Hmm, not that I've heard of :D. You can grow crystals though :).

Way off mark then :o

Excuse my ignorance, I've read through some of the thread and heard quite abit through the forum, but what is Orgonite? How has it become what it is etc :confused:

:D

[paolo]

Hi! Rich:
Thx a lot for your observations on bronze. It's fine because I'm adding it to the top of my pyramids. This is 2 targets: bronze is orgonite "friendly", and at the end, also looks nice once finished.
About brass, ... ... here I'm quite upset because at the same time I got bronze shavings I got also several punds of brass pieces, discs (see image),
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/170/brassdiscssmall.jpg
very thin rings, ovals, etc. largest size shown in pic is half inch and smaller ones. I have added a small amount of these last to some of my orgonite devices, just to make them to look nice, and I'm afraid I could have ruined them. I realize one must fit to basics, ... normal metal shavings, quartz and resine but I can not avoid to make changes in spite of that I'm not NRG sensitive. Silly!!!!!!
Thx again
---
Brass is what? An alloy of zinc and copper. What's wrong with that?
Dont distress at what anyone tells you. I'd love some of your little assortment to prettify my own devices.
There's always someone telling you what's right and wrong, what works and what don't, what's positive and what's negative.
It's the whole story, not least in alternative technology. It's a reiteration of the whole story.
I'd be happy for you to send me that brass if you don't want it, but remember, if it works for you it is right and will work out
Keep doing it according to what you intuit and don't let anyone undermine you

[doctor_john]

Brass is a good sheild of some forms of energies, it would be rather good in orgonite, but it can block energy very good for grounding.

[disorder2k8]

Where can I find materials for free?

If I have to pay for my own happiness I would consider it a scam. I still think Organite is nothing more than a belief system with a strong intent, like dream catchers and other new agey gumpf.

I will await more evidence.

[anonymous]

You do right to await more evidence. I got some Orgonite about a week ago just to see if it actually works and I can't say that I noticed anything being different since then.
I haven't completely given up on the idea that there might be something to it but we'll see anyway ;)

[disorder2k8]

You do right to await more evidence. I got some Orgonite about a week ago just to see if it actually works and I can't say that I noticed anything being different since then.
I haven't completely given up on the idea that there might be something to it but we'll see anyway ;)

This is what I am still trying to discover, whether the organite stuff is taking on a Quantum Observation angle: is it being observed as working, simply because people believe it works. On the other hand, I dont believe inanimate objects have power over anything, but I do believe in the power of human intent/mind.
I would like to conduct further experiments with my idea that I dont believe in its properties, nor expect to see any just to see what happens.
If after that I notice some detectable changes, I will consider this no longer a giant, misdirecting, money-making scam.

Remember that all these types of people will try and peddle you something 'material' and external to fix things for you, and that material thing costs money. And contentment can be gained from having more internal focus too.

[anonymous]

I got it mostly in the hope that it would help my vegetables grow, like it did in some of the experiments that were posted. 1 week is not enough to time to tell if it does have any effect on my plants so there's still hope.
However, I didn't feel any kind of energy coming from it and I didn't notice any difference sleeping with Orgonite under my pillow but if my plants end up extra big and healthy I'll still be impressed :rolleyes:

[biblegirl]

Where can I find materials for free?

If I have to pay for my own happiness I would consider it a scam. I still think Organite is nothing more than a belief system with a strong intent, like dream catchers and other new agey gumpf.

I will await more evidence.

I'm sure if you are creative enough, you can find the materials and make it for free :).

But if you are counting on orgonite to make you happy, you'll be in for some disappointment!

The simplest free-est version that I know of involves collecting tree sap and using quartz rock, which is easy enough to find laying around. Many machine shops will give you scrap metal for free when they are just going to dispose of it anyway.

I have spent the last few months organizing and providing evidence of it's visual, physical, and measurable effects, in this 150 page thread http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62867, which anyone is welcome to read through if they are curious.

But to address the intent issue, I will provide the following report, which rules out intent and expectations as the reason for its results (I found this out through many of my own experiments too, featured in that thread):

Following an unexpected arrival of a large box of Orgonite from a friend in February 2008, Mark Bennett - a respected investigative journalist and photographer - spent time researching the resin and its effect on plants. He found several websites that documented the growing of vegetable gardens. The resulting crops were large; in stark contrast to the control crops grown without Orgonite.

Mark needed his own proof. He started with simple seed germination tests of alfalfa sprouts using a control sample minus Orgonite. The tests were repeated with strict measurements to rule out errors. The results in both cases were a threefold increase in the alfalfa sprouts' volume. Mark then supplied Orgonite to friends who had allotments and gardens.

M. Rogers from Shoreham used Orgonite to aid a variety of failing, non-indigenous plants in his greenhouse - including grapes and gojo berries. He says: "The crops are now flourishing and I was amazed at their size compared to previous crops. At the end of the season, when other plants were dying out, they were still going strong."

P. Barker from Brighton used Orgonite to aid his beetroots, which were fast to germinate and grew strongly. He was rigorous in his methodology, planting two identical patches in his allotment - one with Orgonite and one without - and growing organically ...see:
He says: "At first, I was mildly surprised by the different crops. The area was mostly root crops - parsnips and different types of beetroot and some early carrots. The plot with Orgonite at each corner produced a whole lot more than adjacent plots. I ended up giving a lot of my produce away. A major surprise was a crop of self-sown tomatoes in between the beets. Normally I can't get tomatoes to grow outside so this was an unexpected bonus."http://www.pressdispensary.co.uk/rel...-Brighton-.php

Do intent and expectations play a role in orgonite effects? I believe that yes, it can to some extent. But if anyone can duplicate these effects with dreamcatchers or crystals, it would be surprising to say the least. When I was new to orgonite and first ordered a pendant, the only effect I was aware of was protection from EMF pollution. The physical results came as a pleasant surprise. The seed germination and plant tests seem the quickest way to see results in some cases. Leaving a piece on your incoming power supply may also give you measurable results money-wise, and those are kind of results even a skeptic will appreciate ;).

[horseface]

What is the deal with Aluminium and Orgone?

Reich found it to be bad, yet people are happily putting aluminium in theirs.

Has there been some advancements? Why the turn around?

[minifranco]

Hi biblegirl,

Thanks for the link to your experience. I am actually starting to sleep better. I think I just needed to get used to the orgonite. The pieces I have are from orgonecrystals.com The 6 personal pyramids. Not a bad deal. Besides being functional, they are pleasing to look at ;) I love amethyst, as it's my birthstone.

Anyways, I'll keep you guys posted on other effects.

I do have one to report, but I'm still having a hard time putting it into words. It was a wonderful experience.

-mf

Hello minifranco, these are great questions :). I also wondered why some people report deep sleep the first time, yet others report disrupted sleep.

In some cases, I think this can be from varying degrees of energy sensitivity in each person. It may also have something to do with the different sizes and strength of orgonite, and whether a person is used to those energies. It sounds like you got a few powerful pieces of orgonite all at once, so this may be how you are adjusting.

Here is my detailed report on orgonite affecting my sleep (I experienced disrupted sleep my first night over an HHG):
http://8ung.at/mhotwagner/researchforum/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=39&sid=691f9fc8b7127eecf4b0d02a4d30fa43

NOW I am sleeping like a baby :p. I hope this helps. :)

[rich]

Hi! Rich:
Thx a lot for your observations on bronze. It's fine because I'm adding it to the top of my pyramids. This is 2 targets: bronze is orgonite "friendly", and at the end, also looks nice once finished.
About brass, ... ... here I'm quite upset because at the same time I got bronze shavings I got also several punds of brass pieces, discs (see image),
very thin rings, ovals, etc. largest size shown in pic is half inch and smaller ones. I have added a small amount of these last to some of my orgonite devices, just to make them to look nice, and I'm afraid I could have ruined them. I realize one must fit to basics, ... normal metal shavings, quartz and resine but I can not avoid to make changes in spite of that I'm not NRG sensitive. Silly!!!!!!
Thx again
---

I've removed the picture as it messes with the frames, but they look fine to me, I'm not sure why Paolo went off on one, as I stressed repeatedly that I wasn't claiming fact, just my truth from alot of experience.

The issue I relayed, which was largely agreed upon some years ago, was that things like screws and nails are to thick, length wise it seems not to matter as much, if at all (though I said 1/2 inch as this has been claimed quite alot), but even then, as I said before, I would use them if I didn't have swarf/shavings to hand.

Even if they were to big, it would probably only mean they were just an aesthetic element, rather than a working part, lots of folks make pieces which are only about 20% shavings, they still work but create a smaller field (again, from my experience).

Laozu has reflected that he feels that the best shavings require some curvature. Again, this is his truth.

I'm sure your pieces are fine.

Best Wishes

Rich

[exclamatio]

What type of crystals can be used, do they have to be single terminated or double terminated?

A while back I found small bits of quartz in rocks locally, would they be any good?

[13thlevel]

Hi! biblegirl, rich, etc. and Thx a lot for your support and advices.
First of all, I wish to mention perhaps I misunderstood and hurried myself a lot in posting after reading Rich in his post mentioned about small/dusty brass shavings which "gave" to orgonite an icky feeling. What I showed in my previous pic, is not shavings and so, perhaps, it has nothing to see with brass dust. So, I apologize.
Here you have 3 pics of this orgonite piece: a truncated piramid. I'm still looking for a nice non-truncated pyramid shape mould. Not easy.
At this point, I'm stopped of making more like this one by a couple of reasons ... ... 1st, I do not know whether truncated shape is fine (orgonite friendly) or not. 2nd, I use to show my orgonite devices to a sensitive energy guy. Till present he always have told me my devices somehow absorbed dirty white and relaunched it clean white. But, ... but when he looked at this pyramid he went completely confused (and me scared) saying white 'entered' by the middle of the top and went out "difussed"; meaning "difussed" he was unable to identify nature of going out energy.
So, in this piramid, there are 5 biterminated, bronze and iron shavings, brass discs and 1/2 meter of copper thread cut in small pieces (but not curved).
Pyramid is nearly 5 x 5 inches base sides and a little bit more than 2 inches eight.
Sorry for bothering so much. This is the only piece I've done without sticking myself to basics. All the rest I use to do are TB's and cones.
Thx in advance
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side view
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2104/truncated1.jpg
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top view
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1645/truncated2.jpg
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bottom view
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4547/truncated3.jpg
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[rich]

Hi! biblegirl, rich, etc. and Thx a lot for your support and advices.
First of all, I wish to mention perhaps I misunderstood and hurried myself a lot in posting after reading Rich in his post mentioned about small/dusty brass shavings which "gave" to orgonite an icky feeling. What I showed in my previous pic, is not shavings and so, perhaps, it has nothing to see with brass dust. So, I apologize.
Here you have 3 pics of this orgonite piece: a truncated piramid. I'm still looking for a nice non-truncated pyramid shape mould. Not easy.
At this point, I'm stopped of making more like this one by a couple of reasons ... ... 1st, I do not know whether truncated shape is fine (orgonite friendly) or not. 2nd, I use to show my orgonite devices to a sensitive energy guy. Till present he always have told me my devices somehow absorbed dirty white and relaunched it clean white. But, ... but when he looked at this pyramid he went completely confused (and me scared) saying white 'entered' by the middle of the top and went out "difussed"; meaning "difussed" he was unable to identify nature of going out energy.
So, in this piramid, there are 5 biterminated, bronze and iron shavings, brass discs and 1/2 meter of copper thread cut in small pieces (but not curved).
Pyramid is nearly 5 x 5 inches base sides and a little bit more than 2 inches eight.
Sorry for bothering so much. This is the only piece I've done without sticking myself to basics. All the rest I use to do are TB's and cones.
Thx in advance
---


No worries 13th, the shavings look fine to me, this is where it gets a little difficult (to explain) and can understand Paolo's point :-)

When I said about curvature it was simply meaning anything with a curved element, which to be fair are most things in terms of metal pieces, the thread would be round I assume, which is also a curve, most shavings from the cutting process have curves or at least some at it's edges where cut (this links with the swirl of orgone, ala coils being helpful).

It may be that there is some issue that your friend feels, but from what I can see the elements look fine, if you are unsure or feel icky then I personally would use it to gift with.

Best Wishes

Rich

[rich]

What type of crystals can be used, do they have to be single terminated or double terminated?

A while back I found small bits of quartz in rocks locally, would they be any good?

Rock quartz is fine for Towerbusters (smaller puck sized pieces), for bigger pieces (hhg's and up) terminated points are better, but again they will be fine if that is all you have available, the termination just amp's things up a little.

Best Wishes

Rich

[rich]

What is the deal with Aluminium and Orgone?

Reich found it to be bad, yet people are happily putting aluminium in theirs.

Has there been some advancements? Why the turn around?

Reich built accumulators and manipluators, not transmutive devices. The change was that Reich used steel and wood (plus pipes/water) largely, in that context, aluminium may well not be a synergistic element.

Nowadays with Orgonite we are working with resin and quartz plus metals, this is different and as long as we have transmutation then it does not matter much what the metal is.

For anything tactical (for gifting) then I don't see an issue with any common metal (copper, aluminium, brass, bronze, silver, gold etc though maybe wastful using silver or gold! Lead I would not use, but have no idea if it would be OK, just don't like the thought, and don't recall it being used as a point of reference), for personal orgonite, if it is not for yourself, then one takes on a great personal responsibility, so more care is needed. This in mind, I use aluminium in almost all my pieces, but have a layer of gold above it, but feel it is fine anyway without this and have quite alot of experience that it is fine without it.

Being your own guineapig is fine, if you wish it so, making anyone else your guineapig is not nice IMO, which is why it can be frustrating seeing posts from people, with no experience of certain things, make statements of fact about their speculations (whether well meant or not, orgonite does not conform to traditional science etc so understanding of this does not translate to understanding or orgone/orgonite).

Sorry, alot of this it is not meant to be aimed at you horseface, that was just a comment on a host of the postings I have read over time (some here, but mainly elsewhere).

Don always puts the burden of proof on posters making such claims, this is a good way in my opinion, if you say 'this stuff I'm using makes the best ever orgonite' then, put it in, test it, if it feels good to you, give it to lots of other people, let them test it, if it is infact really good then post about it. This way you have something to back up your claims, rather than just speculations, which may mislead folks who think 'I've got to use some of that as well, it's the future'.

I hope this makes some sense. Sorry to post something which might be conceived as negative (about speculations).

Again, I stress this is just my truth.

Best Wishes

Rich

[j_shell]

Many thanks to bible girl for starting this fascinating thread! Thanks also to everyone who is sharing their knowledge

I have a couple of questions.

First, is there any specific positioning for the crystal/s or any kind of right side up position for the piece its self? Or will any old position and shape be fine?

Also, are other kinds metals more useful than others? as i have noticed people have used a range of different materials from aluminium and steel shavings, to copper ball bearings and even copper wire.

Your advice would be greatly welcomed.

J. :)

[minifranco]

HI all,

I was wondering if anyone can point me to a place that describes what good clouds are and bad clouds. I know what sylphs are and know they are good. I have found some images here and there, but was wondering if there was a single place that would describe what type of clouds are formed haarp, cell phone towers, etc.

Now that I am hooked on orgonite, I find myself looking at the clouds around me more and more.

Thanks again everyone!

[exclamatio]

Rock quartz is fine for Towerbusters (smaller puck sized pieces), for bigger pieces (hhg's and up) terminated points are better, but again they will be fine if that is all you have available, the termination just amp's things up a little.

Best Wishes

Rich

ahhh excellent :D

What size are your average TBs and HHGs?

[biblegirl]

First, is there any specific positioning for the crystal/s or any kind of right side up position for the piece its self? Or will any old position and shape be fine?

Also, are other kinds metals more useful than others? as i have noticed people have used a range of different materials from aluminium and steel shavings, to copper ball bearings and even copper wire.


I think positioning of the crystals applies more when you're dealing with terminated, as the energy is believed to be directed through the points of the crystal. When I make HHGs and such, I like to position the crystal so it will be pointing up in the finished piece. So in a martini glass mold, I will point the crystal down into the bottom of the glass, which will allow it to point up when the piece is removed from the mold and placed right side up. As far as I know, this is more personal preference than anything else. There was a post on etheric warriors on a crystal which seemed to be causing a problem within a TB because of it's warped shape:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2766/warpedcrystal.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/warpedcrystal.jpg/)

I will try to find that post again for more specifics. I do try to use crystal shapes that have smoothness and straightness about them for this reason.

For the metals question, the preferred types seem to be aluminum and copper. Here is some more info on that from orgonise africa:

Q: What about the properties of different metals in orgonite?
A: In principle orgonite can be made with any metal. Apparently the main criterion for the strength of the energy conversion effect is the number of layers of alternatingly resin and metal. In our experience aluminium (aluminum) works best for strong orgonite, because the shavings obtainable at engineering shops are relatively fine and the finest layering is the result. Also aluminium forms fine crystals at the shearing surfaces when it is shaved off a solid bar or block. These micro crystals seem to contribute to the orgone generating effect.
Iron works, but the shavings normally obtained are quite clunky and thick which results in very heavyweigt creations in order to achieve the same quantitative effect as with a relatively lightweigt alu-orgonite tool.
For personal healing tools other metals may be added for their specific finer resonances, such as gold, copper, brass, silver, titanium etc.
As with gemstones and crystals, the finer energetic properties of any material will be enhanced by adding them to orgonite.
We are aware that from certain corners a negative sentiment against the use of aluminium in orgonite is being spread.
We have found no evidence for any negative effects from aluminium. All the often dramatically positive results documented on this site have been achieved with standard aluminium orgonite.
That is: polyester resin, aluminium and quartz crystals with sometimes other gemstones added. http://orgoniseafrica.com/orgonefaq.html

[biblegirl]

HI all,

I was wondering if anyone can point me to a place that describes what good clouds are and bad clouds. I know what sylphs are and know they are good. I have found some images here and there, but was wondering if there was a single place that would describe what type of clouds are formed haarp, cell phone towers, etc.

Now that I am hooked on orgonite, I find myself looking at the clouds around me more and more.

Thanks again everyone!

Hello, this site shows a little what HAARP and chem-clouds end up looking like:

"Good Clouds, Fake Clouds, How To Tell the Difference"
http://www.bariumblues.com/fake_clouds1.htm

http://www.bariumblues.com/index.htm

An effect I've noticed here a lot lately is the "burnt marshmallow" look:http://www.ky3.com/younews/41939602.html?img=2&mg=t

These are some STUNNING pics of a "new rare cloud formation":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5939187

[who elsie]

Most of us who are familiar with orgonite have had these questions at one time or another. I will try to post the most common questions and answers here, starting with the basic questions typical of those just hearing about orgonite, and later move on to the “making of orgonite” questions.

Orgonite is a new technology that has been updated and improved since the name was coined by Karl Welz in the 90s, and trademarked in 2005. A good deal of the inventions and improvements we research today have taken place since 2000, when Don and Carol Croft began experimenting with orgonite. It is from the Crofts that the product names CB, TB, and HHG originated. The Croft formula and Welz forumula differ slightly in ingredient forms, although they are based on the same theory. The invention of Orgonite is based on William Reich’s Orgone research from the 1930s. However, the concept of Orgone energy has been around much longer, understood worldwide and known previously as chi, prana, life force energy, ether, etc.

The research and development side of orgonite is unorganized and difficult to view in one place, which is why I felt the need to start this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62867 on orgonite research and effects. This technology is suppressed and a threat to the NWO. This is why I will do everything in my power to spread the word and get the truth out in the open.

The first time I found the word “orgonite” was on an alternative website, which seemed to promote it as a sort of “demon repellent”. I brushed it off quickly as the thought seemed a bit on the far fetched side. Later I read the book “Natural Cures They Don’t Want You To Know About” by Kevin Trudeau, in which he mentioned some sort of pendant that could be worn to protect our bodies from electromagnetic chaos. From there I googled “EMF pendant” and whatever else I could think of until I came across a site selling orgonite products. I ordered a pendant and was so impressed with it, I have been observing and experimenting with orgonite and its effects ever since.

The answers I am providing here are my opinions and understanding of what I have learned so far. If you have a different understanding, or information to add, or something to correct me on, please feel free :).

Hi Biblegirl! Sorry I'm a bit late joining this thread. Don't know much about orgonites, but just from reading your post above and some of the others, it sounds a fascinating subject! I'm very interested in this kind of stuff, so I'll probably spend some time reading this thread to find out a bit more.

Thanx for posting about this! :)

[minifranco]

Thank you very much biblegirl! This is what I have been looking for.

Boy, after looking at some of those pictures, looks like Taiwan may be in need of gifting. Time for me to start doing some research. I can't make TB's in the hotel, don't think the manager would like that, hehe.

The sky here is always hazy with a lot of over cast. Now, if I can find a cell phone tower site for Taiwan, in English.....

Also, if I could find some experience gifters in this part of the world....

-minifranco

Hello, this site shows a little what HAARP and chem-clouds end up looking like:

"Good Clouds, Fake Clouds, How To Tell the Difference"
http://www.bariumblues.com/fake_clouds1.htm

http://www.bariumblues.com/index.htm

An effect I've noticed here a lot lately is the "burnt marshmallow" look:http://www.ky3.com/younews/41939602.html?img=2&mg=t

These are some STUNNING pics of a "new rare cloud formation":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5939187

[a_bassist]

Hey everyone,
I've been reading up on Orgonite and instructions on how to make my own HHG's, Succor Punches, ect.
I came across an article on how to craft your own HHG's that instructed me to cut copper wire to a certain length in order to obtain different results, but have not found this info elsewhere.
Just hoping someone could clear this up for me.
Thanks!

[anthony65]

Hey everyone,
I've been reading up on Orgonite and instructions on how to make my own HHG's, Succor Punches, ect.
I came across an article on how to craft your own HHG's that instructed me to cut copper wire to a certain length in order to obtain different results, but have not found this info elsewhere.
Just hoping someone could clear this up for me.
Thanks!

I can't clear it up, but I just wanted to mention Slim Spurling and his work. Unfortunately this stuff is very expensive, but Slim worked with measurements related to the cubit and fractions of the cubit.

I think Slim used the Royal Cubit, "The earliest attested standard measure is from Egypt and was called the Royal Cubit (Mahe) and was 523 to 525 mm (20.6 to 20.64 inches) in length"

Maybe the wire for the coils in the orgonite could be based on this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit

http://www.lightlifetools.com/

[griswald]

Might also have something to do with the golden ratio / golden rule. Relative to the base/ height of the orgonite piece. Maybe some on emore knowledgeable on the subject, might be able to flesh it out a bit.

griswald

[bobbydiva]

What is it like with water. Could I put one in a fish tank?

[jojo]

What is it like with water. Could I put one in a fish tank?

yes! its great in water and fish seem to like it too.. it clears murky lakes and such like.

[bobbydiva]

Do these look ok
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORGONE-CHAKRA-CONES-COLOURS-OF-THE-CHAKRA_W0QQitemZ250472034743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLoo se_Gemstones?hash=item3a514bf1b7&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

or maybe these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-ORGONE-PROJECTORS-chi-healing-prana-orgonite_W0QQitemZ380117277079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU K_Metaphysical_New_Age?hash=item5880c15997&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Worth buying?

I have no idea how to gage price or if they really are what they say they are.

If I put one of those under my pillow, on my pc and maybe near a few house plants, would I notice the difference?

[biblegirl]

yes! its great in water and fish seem to like it too.. it clears murky lakes and such like.

I think it's safe after the orgonite has had time to properly offgas. Rich mentioned something before about fish not faring well with it in the tank, I think it was because of the offgassing. I will try to find that one :).


a little about orgonite in fish tanks on this page:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1108454&highlight=fish#post1108454

[mellowfellow]

So cool! Thanks for posting =]

[pachone]

Hey guys,

Im new to the forum, but have been reading it for awhile. I truly support David Icke and the movement he is doing. I am also trying to contribute (www.collective-evolution)
The questions are about ORGANITE!... the wonder concoction!
I just made my first batch, and had some troubles with the ratios of the hardner and resin... but it worked out. I will post pics very soon!
I have a few questions, to those who might know and can help.

1. Organite Rules?

Is there are certain way I have to have the crystal? does it have to be terminated? and pointing up and down, is there a positive or negative point?

Can I use just shards or peices of quartz? does it matter?

Does it have to be in the centre? Can there be more than 1 peice?

2. Resin
Can you multilayer the resin for larger objects? what I mean is... can you let the resin dry, and then do another layer? whats the best way to achieve this?

3. MOLDS

Do anyone have any cool ideas and way to make molds and shapes of all different sizes? Maybe just to share to the group?

Any help and response is appreciated!!

Spread the Love!
Pachone

[disorder2k8]

"gas-off"? sounds like me and me m8s after a curry:rolleyes:

[jojo]

"gas-off"? sounds like me and me m8s after a curry:rolleyes:

:D yeh, you boys love to compeat at such things!

[armoured_amazon]

Great thread. :)

[biblegirl]

Do these look ok
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORGONE-CHAKRA-CONES-COLOURS-OF-THE-CHAKRA_W0QQitemZ250472034743QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLoo se_Gemstones?hash=item3a514bf1b7&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

or maybe these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-ORGONE-PROJECTORS-chi-healing-prana-orgonite_W0QQitemZ380117277079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU K_Metaphysical_New_Age?hash=item5880c15997&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Worth buying?

I have no idea how to gage price or if they really are what they say they are.

If I put one of those under my pillow, on my pc and maybe near a few house plants, would I notice the difference?

Hello, a lot of people on this forum are happy with the pieces from the "Wisdom of the Light" seller (the first link you posted). I am not familiar with the second seller but those may be good items as well. Hmm I don't know how much of a difference you would notice, there are many factors which would apply there. If you are energy sensitive you may be able to feel tingling energy from it. It's commonly reported to change sleep patterns when you sleep over it, but again this can depend on a few different things. Plants seem to respond very well to orgonite, so you may notice a difference there, especially if they are wilty or going downhill, as it is an obvious difference when the plants spring back to life. :)

[biblegirl]

"gas-off"? sounds like me and me m8s after a curry:rolleyes:

yeah you don't want to be doin that in a fish tank either :p

[biblegirl]

Hey everyone,
I've been reading up on Orgonite and instructions on how to make my own HHG's, Succor Punches, ect.
I came across an article on how to craft your own HHG's that instructed me to cut copper wire to a certain length in order to obtain different results, but have not found this info elsewhere.
Just hoping someone could clear this up for me.
Thanks!

Is the copper wire then wrapped around a crystal? Or done in a mobius coil fashion? Some plans will have a copper wrapped crystal, others will not say it is necessary. I have not wrapped the crystals in my HHGs yet, I make them fairly simple with just one nice crystal point. I hope that helps :).

[biblegirl]

1. Organite Rules?

Is there are certain way I have to have the crystal? does it have to be terminated? and pointing up and down, is there a positive or negative point?

Can I use just shards or peices of quartz? does it matter?

Does it have to be in the centre? Can there be more than 1 peice?


Here is a post I did on crystals if you haven't seen it already: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106083&postcount=59

My preference is to have the crystal point arranged so that it will be pointing up in the finished piece. No it does not have to be terminated. A point will determine how energy is directed through the crystal. The resin curing process polarizes both ends of a crystal. I suggest clearing/charging the crystals before using, by sunlight or orgonite. Yes you can use pieces of quartz, I prefer to place the crystal in the center but it is not necessary. Each crystal has it's own field, so I generally use one crystal in each piece of orgonite, but I believe intuition is a good thing to follow on whether to add more crystals.


2. Resin
Can you multilayer the resin for larger objects? what I mean is... can you let the resin dry, and then do another layer? whats the best way to achieve this?


I have thought about doing this before to get a smoother effect on a finished piece (no air bubbles and such) but I have not done it yet. I believe Rich has, and mentioned it is quite complicated and messy. I prefer to coat the orgonite with gloss after it has had time to properly offgas. The gloss gives it a shiny smooth soft surface, and seems to cover up the flaws ;).


3. MOLDS

Do anyone have any cool ideas and way to make molds and shapes of all different sizes? Maybe just to share to the group?


I haven't yet made a mold, but I've used easy molds like muffin pans, martini glasses, sundae cups, etc. I know some people know how to shape their own molds with silicone, but not me :p. There is a nice collection of molds on ebay, listed under soap or candle molds :). I hope this helps, and welcome to the forum!

[pachone]

Here is a post I did on crystals if you haven't seen it already: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106083&postcount=59

My preference is to have the crystal point arranged so that it will be pointing up in the finished piece. No it does not have to be terminated. A point will determine how energy is directed through the crystal. The resin curing process polarizes both ends of a crystal. I suggest clearing/charging the crystals before using, by sunlight or orgonite. Yes you can use pieces of quartz, I prefer to place the crystal in the center but it is not necessary. Each crystal has it's own field, so I generally use one crystal in each piece of orgonite, but I believe intuition is a good thing to follow on whether to add more crystals.



I have thought about doing this before to get a smoother effect on a finished piece (no air bubbles and such) but I have not done it yet. I believe Rich has, and mentioned it is quite complicated and messy. I prefer to coat the orgonite with gloss after it has had time to properly offgas. The gloss gives it a shiny smooth soft surface, and seems to cover up the flaws ;).



I haven't yet made a mold, but I've used easy molds like muffin pans, martini glasses, sundae cups, etc. I know some people know how to shape their own molds with silicone, but not me :p. There is a nice collection of molds on ebay, listed under soap or candle molds :). I hope this helps, and welcome to the forum!

Thanks Alot biblegirl.

You have been helping alot of people on the forum in regards to this topic and thats awesome. I totally think Orgonite should be sometime widely known, so the more you teach, the more you spread. Thanks.

Tonight, i just placed an ice cube tray beneath my first beta organites to see how it reacts, maybe it will spike like some of the photos?! that would be cool. Im going to read up more on crystals and such. and follow more of your threads in regards to this and perfect some methods. I will keep you posted! (pictures! :p)

You mentioned "offgas" --- is this letting it sit, so that the smell of the toxic resin go away? I hesitated on putting it in my freezer... even though it wasnt that bad.. plus orgon delays decay which is hella cool too.

Im going to get creative on some molds... and I like that polish tip !! Im also going to try some layering... here is a really cool Orgonite site where they make some really cool molds and big ones... www.orgonix23.com

Id also like you to check out my site... and maybe soon ... contribute to my forum if you could!
www.collective-evolution.com

thanks!
Love and Light,
Pachone

[doctor_john]

Hello, a lot of people on this forum are happy with the pieces from the "Wisdom of the Light" seller (the first link you posted). I am not familiar with the second seller but those may be good items as well. Hmm I don't know how much of a difference you would notice, there are many factors which would apply there. If you are energy sensitive you may be able to feel tingling energy from it. It's commonly reported to change sleep patterns when you sleep over it, but again this can depend on a few different things. Plants seem to respond very well to orgonite, so you may notice a difference there, especially if they are wilty or going downhill, as it is an obvious difference when the plants spring back to life. :)


I bought a few Chi Pendants, orgone blocks and a personal amplifier, all seems very powerful and extremely positive.

I really couldn't tell you about the other seller, but there is a Cymaticized series of pendants going I don't know how great that it is or worth going for.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Cymaticized-Reiki-Orgone-Pendant-ALL-FREQUENCIES_W0QQitemZ170353208662QQcmdZViewItemQQp tZUK_Health_Beauty_Natural_AlternativeTherapies?ha sh=item27a9d7ad56&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aura-Glasses-by-Cymaticized-Now-anyone-can-see-auras_W0QQitemZ170359955655QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_M etaphysical_New_Age?hash=item27aa3ea0c7&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14

however I recently purchased the Aura Glasses from him, they were a total waste of money, no Aura has been viewed by them.

[the loner]

I typed in "Orgonite Inventor" on Youtube and it brought up a 9 minute video featuring Karl Welz instructing people on how to make orgonite.

His method seems simpler than others I have seen, because all you need is organic resin (fiberglass, in my case), and small bits of metal (steel dust particles from my job).

He stated the smaller sized particles of metal, the better.

He also stated that you don't need crystals to make orgonite, he smirkingly called crystals in orgonite "channeled orgonite".


Ergo, I have two questions:

1-Why do I see large sized pieces of metal (relativily speaking, in regards to metal dust) in most videos and pictures of orgonite instead of metal dust?

2-Why do all the videos and sellers of orgonite include crystals in the mix, when Welz said they are not necessary?

I'm asking these questions because on the weekend I purchased the resin and obtained the steel dust from work, and would like to have them clairified before I start making orgonite.

Thanks in advance.

[paolo]

Because orgonite without a crystal accumulates and transmits DOR
Because the crystal actually transmutes DOR to OR?
This is basic

[anthony65]

I typed in "Orgonite Inventor" on Youtube and it brought up a 9 minute video featuring Karl Welz instructing people on how to make orgonite.

His method seems simpler than others I have seen, because all you need is organic resin (fiberglass, in my case), and small bits of metal (steel dust particles from my job).

He stated the smaller sized particles of metal, the better.

He also stated that you don't need crystals to make orgonite, he smirkingly called crystals in orgonite "channeled orgonite".


Ergo, I have two questions:

1-Why do I see large sized pieces of metal (relativily speaking, in regards to metal dust) in most videos and pictures of orgonite instead of metal dust?

2-Why do all the videos and sellers of orgonite include crystals in the mix, when Welz said they are not necessary?

I'm asking these questions because on the weekend I purchased the resin and obtained the steel dust from work, and would like to have them clairified before I start making orgonite.

Thanks in advance.

You are correct that Karl Welz is the inventor of orgonite, but all the references to orgonite on the forum threads are the Don Croft version of orgonite. Which includes crystals.

[sarrin]

I typed in "Orgonite Inventor" on Youtube and it brought up a 9 minute video featuring Karl Welz instructing people on how to make orgonite.

His method seems simpler than others I have seen, because all you need is organic resin (fiberglass, in my case), and small bits of metal (steel dust particles from my job).

He stated the smaller sized particles of metal, the better.

He also stated that you don't need crystals to make orgonite, he smirkingly called crystals in orgonite "channeled orgonite".


Ergo, I have two questions:

1-Why do I see large sized pieces of metal (relativily speaking, in regards to metal dust) in most videos and pictures of orgonite instead of metal dust?

2-Why do all the videos and sellers of orgonite include crystals in the mix, when Welz said they are not necessary?

I'm asking these questions because on the weekend I purchased the resin and obtained the steel dust from work, and would like to have them clairified before I start making orgonite.

Thanks in advance.

These are two intresting points actually Take a look at This Karl welz video on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uxWD-D0Qng

what exactly is the purpose of the crystal in orgonite exactly? how do crystals relate to orgone energy? Is there some kind of conflict in opinion between croft and welz regarding the use of crytals?

[paolo]

These are two intresting points actually Take a look at This Karl welz video on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uxWD-D0Qng

what exactly is the purpose of the crystal in orgonite exactly? how do crystals relate to orgone energy? Is there some kind of conflict in opinion between croft and welz regarding the use of crytals?

He starts pointing out patents and blatant violation of the Law
Do you need to know more?
Crystals are an essential conversion of dor to por,according to their structure
Yes, there is a conflict
Welz might be quite happy accumulating dor, Croft isn't so has to introduce an extra element for transmutation.
Simple isn't it?

[13thlevel]

Hi! All: :)

Just to show you the nicest up-to-day orgonite devices I've been able to make. :rolleyes:
These cones incorpore one single biterminated point. So, no HHG's and no TB's ... Something in the middle? ... Does not matter anyway! Do you think the one on the left is toooo blunt? :confused:
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq131/mous3000/niceorgonite.jpg

I've also elaborated these 2 "M.B." (mbl/cell busters). I saw the idea first at EW. Still a little bit rough and big but I've found a very good mould amongst my stuff. Some time ago a bought ... don't remember whether it was in the States or in the UK both, a set of plastic and steel measures cups ('cause I like to cook bread at home) and I think a nice shape -truncated cone- and size is a 2 TBSP one. Well this is only an idea I'm sharing. ;)
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq131/mous3000/CellBuster1.jpg
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq131/mous3000/CellBuster2.jpg
http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq131/mous3000/CellBusters12.jpg

As you can see mine is an old cellular. I do not like 3Ghz ones. However my kids have those nasty 3G and these "M.B." are for them. ;)
Best wishes
---

[sarrin]

Another question that has been plaguing my mind? If croft is such a huge player in destroying the chemtrail operations why havent the powers that be made him "disappear" It is alleged that Reich was killed/assassinated because of his knowledge of orgone energy.. why not croft?

Iam just concerned that alot of people (Myself included of course) have just jumped on the orgonite bandwagon with out really knowing what the hell we are doing. Crystals in particular.. what happens if you use a crystal with a negative energy unintentionally? Are the any cases of people having bad experiences with orgonite for example?

[brainfreeze]

Another question that has been plaguing my mind? If croft is such a huge player in destroying the chemtrail operations why havent the powers that be made him "disappear" It is alleged that Reich was killed/assassinated because of his knowledge of orgone energy.. why not croft?

Iam just concerned that alot of people (Myself included of course) have just jumped on the orgonite bandwagon with out really knowing what the hell we are doing. Crystals in particular.. what happens if you use a crystal with a negative energy unintentionally? Are the any cases of people having bad experiences with orgonite for example?

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if those "needles", like Cleopatra's needle and the Dutch one etc, represent crystals?

I was watching Land of the Lost and the crystals reminded me of the needles.

[pachone]

Is there any way to measure your organite?

Ive made a few peices, but really not sure if they work? how will I know? I do believe it, but just wondering. They are my first batch :D

I also found some older organite, planted all around my backyard (no wonder its like a jungle) that my father planted about 10 years back. WHO KNEW!
is this organite still powerful, or does it diminish? they were simply TBs about 15 of them were planted.

great thread, lets keep sharing!

www.collective-evolution.com (http://www.collective-evolution.com)

[the loner]

^Along the same lines, does orgonites' power ever get depleted?

If so, how does one go about "recharging" them?

[metacomet]

Iam just concerned that alot of people (Myself included of course) have just jumped on the orgonite bandwagon with out really knowing what the hell we are doing. Crystals in particular.. what happens if you use a crystal with a negative energy unintentionally? Are the any cases of people having bad experiences with orgonite for example?

I suggest people stop listening to posters like 'doctor john' or anyone else hinting that crystals might have 'negative qualities'.

The only thing created naturally on this planet harboring negative energy is sulfur.

If you are practicing black magick with crystals *shrug* you are still utilizing a neutral energy conductor for your own purpose. There is no such thing as a crystal having 'inherent' negative energies. If I'm wrong, somebody explain why.

[jojo]

I suggest people stop listening to posters like 'doctor john' or anyone else hinting that crystals might have 'negative qualities'.

The only thing created naturally on this planet harboring negative energy is sulfur.

If you are practicing black magick with crystals *shrug* you are still utilizing a neutral energy conductor for your own purpose. There is no such thing as a crystal having 'inherent' negative energies. If I'm wrong, somebody explain why.

i agree, the orgonite i have made with different gem stones are wonderful.

each has its own unique resinence and healing propeties, and im certainly not going to stop making it with different stones and metals.

[sarrin]

Why do do people cleanse crystals then? put them in sea salt or whatever?

[jojo]

Why do do people cleanse crystals then? put them in sea salt or whatever?

well, i charge mine with energy from my hands. I find this makes the resinence of the crystal more focused on the job in hand. Its like programing it with intent.

for instance, a piece of rose quartz is good for matters of the heart. so I will hold the crystal and focus unconditional love into it.

cleansing crystals is good just incase they have been mined in a not so ethical way too. cleansing also wipes out any other things the crystal may have picked up from previous owners or vendors.

ps love your avatar! is that a piece you have made?

[sarrin]

Yep that was my thrid creation :D i want to make more but iam out of metal atm. I did have 2 peices in my room but i found my sleep Very disturbed so i removed them for a few days and noticed some improvement. Last week i decided to introduce a single peice for an experiment and actually sleep with the piece of orgonite in my bed, sometimes I would fall asleep with my hand on it. And I would wake up with this tingling in my legs and hands, hot/cold flashes and also experiance vivid dreams, for me this does not constitue a good nights sleep. Anyway this is my third week with orgonite and iam not sure wether it has been a postive/negative experiance or not. I felt really drained and tired at some points :confused:

[jojo]

Yep that was my thrid creation :D i want to make more but iam out of metal atm. I did have 2 peices in my room but i found my sleep Very disturbed so i removed them for a few days and noticed some improvement. Last week i decided to introduce a single peice for an experiment and actually sleep with the piece of orgonite in my bed, sometimes I would fall asleep with my hand on it. And I would wake up with this tingling in my legs and hands, hot/cold flashes and also experiance vivid dreams, for me this does not constitue a good nights sleep. Anyway this is my third week with orgonite and iam not sure wether it has been a postive/negative experiance or not. I felt really drained and tired at some points :confused:

sometimes it can have that effect, and its like a purging of negative energies. its like when you detox the body, you get spots, bad breath and the shits. in time these will pass and after you will feel wonderful.

i cannot sleep with the ones i make for powerful tb's either (basic mx of quartz, metal and resin) as they make me buzz way too much for bedtime :)... but i do sleep with the more gentle ones i make such as one which has a mix of gold leaf, quartz and chrysocola, this gives me deep and wonderful dreams.

but everyone is different and do not feel you must sleep with it if it makes you feel uncomfortable.


i really like the piece in your avatar, it inspired me to make one similar last week.... if only my camera was working!

[sarrin]

ah right thanks for the info :) I cast that one in two stages, i would have like to put more metal in in but i was running a bit short.

[jojo]

ah right thanks for the info :) I cast that one in two stages, i would have like to put more metal in in but i was running a bit short.

well it looks really nice and the lighting below it gives it a wonderful glow.

[biblegirl]

You mentioned "offgas" --- is this letting it sit, so that the smell of the toxic resin go away?

Yes, finished orgonite seems to take anywhere from a week to a month to properly offgas, the bigger pieces take longer in my experience, so I leave them outside until the fumes disappear.


He stated the smaller sized particles of metal, the better.

He also stated that you don't need crystals to make orgonite, he smirkingly called crystals in orgonite "channeled orgonite".

Ergo, I have two questions:

1-Why do I see large sized pieces of metal (relativily speaking, in regards to metal dust) in most videos and pictures of orgonite instead of metal dust?

2-Why do all the videos and sellers of orgonite include crystals in the mix, when Welz said they are not necessary?


Yes we are dealing with two slightly different products here, although we continue to give Welz the credit for the name "orgonite", as the name for the metal and resin matrix caught on quickly after he coined it. Much progress from the original Welz formula has been made since that time, involving the use of larger metal pieces as well as the addition of a crystal. Thus we have two basic versions of orgonite, whose respective inventors have differing opinions on what each formula accomplishes.

Most of us on this board have been referring to Croft style orgonite. The larger scraps of metal produce stronger results, and the crystal is found to enhance orgonite's function. Again we have differing opinions on what exactly it is that the crystal does. IMO it amplifies the transmutation process, directs the energy, and ads a level of "intelligence" to the piece. Welz writes that his products do not transmute DOR, and seems to be of the opinion that anyone who promotes this aspect is mistaken. IMO the evidence shows quite the contrary, and the transmutation aspect is confirmed by many energy sensitives, or people who are gifted in seeing energy in ways we cannot. Unfortunately there are some hard feelings over this trivial matter.

Since I am primarily concerned with results, I promote the Croft version which seems to provides the most.

Another question that has been plaguing my mind? If croft is such a huge player in destroying the chemtrail operations why havent the powers that be made him "disappear" It is alleged that Reich was killed/assassinated because of his knowledge of orgone energy.. why not croft?

Iam just concerned that alot of people (Myself included of course) have just jumped on the orgonite bandwagon with out really knowing what the hell we are doing. Crystals in particular.. what happens if you use a crystal with a negative energy unintentionally? Are the any cases of people having bad experiences with orgonite for example?

I appreciate your questions, it is important to experience and decide for ourselves whether this is the real deal before we can get fully on board with the gifting and other aspects. The Crofts have been targeted over the years (including a plane crash and microwave weapons), but just because they are still alive does not mean their work is faulty. You might be surprised at just how much harassment they deal with on a daily basis, but the word on orgonite is out now, and not much can stop the information spread ;). You may have already come across deliberate disinfo about orgonite, which is meant to divide, discourage, and confuse...for instance I came across one website that said all orgonite is a scam unless it is made with silver and gold :rolleyes:. So there's plenty of crap out there I've had to filter through in order to provide the real cream of the crop as far as research and evidence :p.

I have heard rumors involving a dealer or two who intentionally sell bad orgonite (as in negatively programmed with bad gemstone combinations). I can't say for sure who these dealers are, but I have been assured that they are not well known and have a small clientèle. So the implication here is that there is such a thing as "bad" orgonite.

As far as the crystal is concerned, we recommend charging/cleaning them before using in orgonite, but I don't know of any incidents where using a crystal which has not been cleaned causing any problems. I have heard of orgonite putting out energy that feels "off" when certain gemstone combinations are used. For this reason it is good to know what you are doing with various crystals and gemstones, but IMO a simple quartz in orgonite is as safe as it gets.

[biblegirl]

Hi! All: :)

Just to show you the nicest up-to-day orgonite devices I've been able to make. :rolleyes:
These cones incorpore one single biterminated point. So, no HHG's and no TB's ... Something in the middle? ... Does not matter anyway! Do you think the one on the left is toooo blunt? :confused:

Hello 13thlevel, thank you for sharing your pics! I thought they all looked fantastic, and I actually preferred the shape of the one on the left. The rounded dome look is my new favorite I think :D. Great work!

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if those "needles", like Cleopatra's needle and the Dutch one etc, represent crystals?


Hmm, the obelisks do not represent crystals that I am aware of.

Is there any way to measure your organite?

Ive made a few peices, but really not sure if they work? how will I know? I do believe it, but just wondering. They are my first batch :D

I also found some older organite, planted all around my backyard (no wonder its like a jungle) that my father planted about 10 years back. WHO KNEW!
is this organite still powerful, or does it diminish? they were simply TBs about 15 of them were planted.


Hello pachone, thanks for sharing :). The quickest and easiest way to get strength results from your orgonite would probably be with seed germination tests. If you want to test long term, you can try it on your incoming power supply, garden, etc. Freezing water tests are fun, but I would not consider them entirely conclusive, just indicative that the orgonite is doing something. I am working on plans for an orgone meter, and researching all tools that might be used to measure orgonite strength. We'll see what happens with that, but short of aura photography equipment, I don't have many ideas except for those above :).

^Along the same lines, does orgonites' power ever get depleted?

If so, how does one go about "recharging" them?

As far as we know, orgonite provides a perpetual transmutation system that does not wear down. It is a different story with orgone accumulators, which can "fill up" with DOR. But orgonite is considered an orgone generator, which does not fill up or lose power. There are differing opinions on whether orgonite needs to be recharged, and this is one idea behind "charging" the crystals before using them in orgonite. Some people feel the need to recharge their orgonite by placing it in the sun. Additional opinions on this subject are welcome :).

[j_shell]

hey all,

i made two pieces of orgonite last week, one in a shot glass and one in the bottom half of a coffee cup. I had each piece in each front corner of my laptop, and i have to say nothing felt any different at all, i still had the same old feeling of pressure in my forehead (same as when watching a large plasma screen tv or the like). To make more room on my keyboard i placed the cone shaped piece on top of the flat one, and i tell you it was as if someone had lifted a lead weight from between my eyes. I was amazed, truly. I started to experiment using my computer and watching tv with and without my pieces and there is a very noticeable difference.

So the question i have is, can anyone tell me, why such a difference in effect from the positioning?

The bottom piece contains a tumbled rose quartz crystal, surrounded by a copper spiral. The top piece contains a plain piece of terminated quartz also surrounded by a copper spiral, and aluminium shavings were used in both.
Would love to hear peoples explanations on this.

I thank all of you for the advice on the subject leading up to me making my own, as it has bought something very positive and healing into my life.

Much love J


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=503&pictureid=4643

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=503&pictureid=4642

[metacomet]

To make more room on my keyboard i placed the cone shaped piece on top of the flat one, and i tell you it was as if someone had lifted a lead weight from between my eyes. I was amazed, truly.

Are you saying you stacked your orgonite!?

Because I did the same thing and when placing my hand over the stack could feel it. This is kind of a big deal as I'm not one to 'feel energy' that easily.

[j_shell]

Are you saying you stacked your orgonite!?

Because I did the same thing and when placing my hand over the stack could feel it. This is kind of a big deal as I'm not one to 'feel energy' that easily.

yeah exactly,

the second pic i posted is of the stacked pieces.

kind of uncanny how well they fit together.:)

[anthony65]

Another question that has been plaguing my mind? If croft is such a huge player in destroying the chemtrail operations why havent the powers that be made him "disappear" It is alleged that Reich was killed/assassinated because of his knowledge of orgone energy.. why not croft?

Iam just concerned that alot of people (Myself included of course) have just jumped on the orgonite bandwagon with out really knowing what the hell we are doing. Crystals in particular.. what happens if you use a crystal with a negative energy unintentionally? Are the any cases of people having bad experiences with orgonite for example?

Don and Carol Croft take the credit for the idea of adding crystals to the orgonite mix. They also shared their experiences with the help of people like Ken Adachi of educate yourself.

However, in the past years there are many people around the world who are using the Don Croft orgonite concept without any contact to Don Croft whatsoever. The vast majority in fact.

You could apply the phrase "without really knowing what the hell we are doing" to every moment of most people's lives. Consider the water crystals of Emoto as an example and imagine the effects we have on ourselves and our environment. The effects of thoughts, sights, sounds, energy, etc.

Many of us have witnessed the fantastic effects of Don Croft orgonite on chemtrails / fake clouds etc.

Whenever we question / confront the matrix there is going to be a reaction. Orgonite in my opinion weakens the hold of the matrix. What we are doing is a very positive contribution.

But each one of us is different. We react in different ways to the stress, to fear. It isn't a coincidence that you see sites like etheric warriors or warrior matrix. Every truth seeker is a warrior. We all need to dig deep sometimes to get through the dark days.

And it isn't just orgonite that sparks the reaction from the matrix and its keepers. Anyone who strives honestly towards truth is a threat.

We each have the alternative of retreating or going forward.

[xpleet]

Is it useful to put minerals on top of Towerbusters, does it greatly add to the effect or is it essential for the mineral to be squeezed and if so, why? The piezoelectric effect people talk about requires an alternating current, doesn't it?

[the loner]

Thanks for the helpful answers biblegirl!

[paolo]

yeah exactly,

the second pic i posted is of the stacked pieces.

kind of uncanny how well they fit together.:)

Yes, I've long favoured the mushroom design as it's one hhg pushing through another

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/dwightheet/magicmushrooms-2.jpg

Double trouble

[paolo]

Is it useful to put minerals on top of Towerbusters, does it greatly add to the effect or is it essential for the mineral to be squeezed and if so, why? The piezoelectric effect people talk about requires an alternating current, doesn't it?
Well no. I don't think the piezoelectric has an essential effect other than it is indeed somewhere in the mix. Anyway, those old handheld gas lighters produced their spark purely from momentary compression of the quartz. No AC needed

[xpleet]

Well no. I don't think the piezoelectric has an essential effect other than it is indeed somewhere in the mix. Anyway, those old handheld gas lighters produced their spark purely from momentary compression of the quartz. No AC needed

So you're basically saying that we could lay all the BIG minerals around the Orgonite instead of inside the Orgonite and achieve the same effect, allowing to have more space for metal inside the Orgonite.

I remember Don Croft pointed out that people use too many minerals and should focus more on the metal, that is doing the work.


I like the idea of encirceling Orgonite with the minerals because we can still exchange and have a control of the effects, rather than having them encased in the composite from the beginning.

My first HHG, which I bought, has 3 quite medium large Amethyst rocks, 2 Rosequartz, 5 pointed Quartz and some Pyrite in it :P

[j_shell]

Yes, I've long favoured the mushroom design as it's one hhg pushing through another

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/dwightheet/magicmushrooms-2.jpg

Double trouble

Hey I like your mushroom idea! Tell me though what did you use to colour your resin?

Cheers.

[paolo]

My first HHG, which I bought, has 3 quite medium large Amethyst rocks, 2 Rosequartz, 5 pointed Quartz and some Pyrite in it :P
I've no idea what you're saying. It doesn't seem to reflect anything I've said.Anyway your purchase seems to have an awful lot of crystal in it

[paolo]

Hey I like your mushroom idea! Tell me though what did you use to colour your resin?

Cheers.
I slap glass paint from the craft shop on anything I feel needs to be coloured

[j_shell]

I slap glass paint from the craft shop on anything I feel needs to be coloured

ripper!

thanks mate!

[anthony65]

So you're basically saying that we could lay all the BIG minerals around the Orgonite instead of inside the Orgonite and achieve the same effect, allowing to have more space for metal inside the Orgonite.

I remember Don Croft pointed out that people use too many minerals and should focus more on the metal, that is doing the work.

I like the idea of encirceling Orgonite with the minerals because we can still exchange and have a control of the effects, rather than having them encased in the composite from the beginning.

My first HHG, which I bought, has 3 quite medium large Amethyst rocks, 2 Rosequartz, 5 pointed Quartz and some Pyrite in it :P

Is that an orgonised Germany HHG by any chance? Excellent orgonite!

Most orgonite is intended for gifting towers and other DOR producers. Keeping it simple is rule number one. Put your crystal/s and stone/s in the orgonite mix of polyester resin and metal shavings.

For personal use feel free to experiment all you like with crystals and stones inside and outside the orgonite.

I mention this in the sake of simplicity for the many readers who are new to the orgonite topic.

There is massive scope for experimentation (see Jojo's posts for example), but at the end of the day, orgonite is a 50 / 50 mix of polyester resin and metal shavings with one of more crystals (generally quartz) and semi-precious stones.

And there are a million towers out there that need gifting!

[whitewolf]

just been trawling through the posts, excellent thread btw.

There's no mention of whether it's necessary to clean metal shavings from a machinists workshop. Might they have traces of mineral oil on them? If so how to clean them. I used pan scrubbers before but it's a chore to chop them up and ruins my scissors.

I made an HHG a year or so ago, had to search high and low for martini glasses here, eventually found one, only one, sprayed it with WD40 and the damn thing stuck like glue to the epoxy resin I'd used. I smashed the stem and base off and the shattered bits of glass fell off eventually. It was a bit disheartening and I'm afraid to use my precious metal muffin moulds for TB's. I don't mind gifting the tray, it's just that they're so hard to find here if it sticks.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

[xpleet]

Is that an orgonised Germany HHG by any chance? Excellent orgonite!


:D

And tis one heck of a bullet.


All I was wondering is whether it makes much of a difference to have a rock of Amethyst locked up inside the composite or outside right on top/below the piece. And I think it doesn't unless for more handyness or mobility. For a home piece it might just be best to lay all the fancy mineral in a circle around the piece!


I will soon start my Orgonized weed-grow, from what I've seen it has never been attempted before. Orgonite might just make the yield explode.
I'm very excited.

[anthony65]

:D

And tis one heck of a bullet.


All I was wondering is whether it makes much of a difference to have a rock of Amethyst locked up inside the composite or outside right on top/below the piece. And I think it doesn't unless for more handyness or mobility. For a home piece it might just be best to lay all the fancy mineral in a circle around the piece!


I will soon start my Orgonized weed-grow, from what I've seen it has never been attempted before. Orgonite might just make the yield explode.
I'm very excited.

I see what you mean.

The field orgonite from orgonized Germany ist der Hammer! :p

Lovely big crystals! My favourite TBs and field HHGs!

The best earth pipes in the world come from Ostfriesland! ;)

[xpleet]

I see what you mean.

The field orgonite from orgonized Germany ist der Hammer! :p


Oh yea!

I got one of those aswell!

Und um ehrlich zu sein :D I first found myself more attracted to the field-Orgonite one than to the Orgonite Bullet :cool:.


I would order from them again but I think its just a bit too expensive.

[anthony65]

Oh yea!

I got one of those aswell!

Und um ehrlich zu sein :D I first found myself more attracted to the field-Orgonite one than to the Orgonite Bullet :cool:.


I would order from them again but I think its just a bit too expensive.

Get yourself some field Tbs. They are cheap and really do the business!

[xpleet]

Get yourself some field Tbs. They are cheap and really do the business!

I bought 20 of them but if i just buy resin now i could probably make double the amount with the same money but the resin i've had so far is very disappointing. Becomes very white and even with small amounts of catalyst creates rips in the end product.

[paolo]

I bought 20 of them but if i just buy resin now i could probably make double the amount with the same money but the resin i've had so far is very disappointing. Becomes very white and even with small amounts of catalyst creates rips in the end product.

I'm not sure what you are doing wrong. The casting resins from here in the uk work perfectly well http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/index.php
I use the cheap brown resin for field pieces, and the water clear variety for the better looking stuff
I don't measure out the catalyst but just sprinkle in what looks enough. With practice you get to recognise the oily look and slight colour change on stirring that tells you the mix is about right, and by sizing the remaining quantities of resin and catalyst against one another. I usually use a bit over the required amount of catalyst, which sometimes causes cracks in the field orgonite, but that really doesn't matter one bit

[the loner]

Try vegetable oil, it works like a charm.


just been trawling through the posts, excellent thread btw.

There's no mention of whether it's necessary to clean metal shavings from a machinists workshop. Might they have traces of mineral oil on them? If so how to clean them. I used pan scrubbers before but it's a chore to chop them up and ruins my scissors.

I made an HHG a year or so ago, had to search high and low for martini glasses here, eventually found one, only one, sprayed it with WD40 and the damn thing stuck like glue to the epoxy resin I'd used. I smashed the stem and base off and the shattered bits of glass fell off eventually. It was a bit disheartening and I'm afraid to use my precious metal muffin moulds for TB's. I don't mind gifting the tray, it's just that they're so hard to find here if it sticks.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

[anthony65]

I bought 20 of them but if i just buy resin now i could probably make double the amount with the same money but the resin i've had so far is very disappointing. Becomes very white and even with small amounts of catalyst creates rips in the end product.

I always order more to get the cheaper individual price.

100 TBs are 1.5 euro each.

And any profits go to supporting the gifting expeditions, which are legendary!

Spain, Italy, Morocco! And Germany of course!

http://www.orgonised-germany-orgonit-shop.de/

[soxism]

Hi all,

Got a question concerning sleep and orgonite.

Why do some people report sleeping like a baby, and others experience vivid dreaming, not being able to sleep?

What could these different reactions mean?

Is there a place I can check up on this?

For me, the last 2 nights sleeping with a pendant and ogonite next to my bed, my dreams are extremely vivid. Sometimes I cannot tell if it really is a dream. Nothing frightening though. I'm just curious if dreaming this way will continue or will I be able to sleep "like a baby."

Thanks everyone


I curious of all the Orgonite stuff, as recently i bought a small Pendant that seems to do the same thing, but is biased on old school theories by Tesla.. Basically the pendant in a sense Repells all the EMF type energy, but also enhances your own.

It sits on your Thymus glad. instantally in 24hours it has adapted to my energy frequency, im a student but work around alot of electrical equipment and instally i feel i have more energy, tho i have had such an increase in energy im a little "too hyped" up for sleep, and often have to take it off before bed.

The pendant also can help speed up minor burns/ bruises and healing, headaches etc by using my own energy vibration.

[biblegirl]

just been trawling through the posts, excellent thread btw.

There's no mention of whether it's necessary to clean metal shavings from a machinists workshop. Might they have traces of mineral oil on them? If so how to clean them. I used pan scrubbers before but it's a chore to chop them up and ruins my scissors.

I made an HHG a year or so ago, had to search high and low for martini glasses here, eventually found one, only one, sprayed it with WD40 and the damn thing stuck like glue to the epoxy resin I'd used. I smashed the stem and base off and the shattered bits of glass fell off eventually. It was a bit disheartening and I'm afraid to use my precious metal muffin moulds for TB's. I don't mind gifting the tray, it's just that they're so hard to find here if it sticks.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

I like to clean the metal scraps before I pour, otherwise the resin gets a bit murky, and the finished piece can look prettier and shinier with clean metals. I've heard of using paint thinner/mineral spirits to get the coolant and oil off the metal, but I've just been using orange hand cleaner. Oils on the metal will not affect the function of the piece IMO, so if you're making gifting TBs I wouldn't worry too much about it. Cleaning beforehand is nice for decorative pieces though.

Aw, that's too bad about the martini glass. Was it especially thin? I spray silicone lubricant in the molds beforehand and the finished pieces just slide right out. It's as easy with the martini glasses as the muffin pan. I hope that works out alright for you next time. :)

[adzboarder]

Hi everyone, special thanks to Biblegirl for this info, I am going to read it all eventually, but I am now in fact itching to try this stuff our for myself having read what you guys say about it and having spoken to a friend about it too. It's time to see for myself.

The very idea of gifting is really important to me, being somewhat of a guerilla gardener as well, I like to spread the love so I was wondering what I should get to start off with. I don't have a lot of money so I am thinking I will get a large piece of orgonite and then maybe some smaller ones to gift to friends and also to spread around the different environments I have to work in.

I was looking on the bluesun (as recommended) site and noted they have micro orgone which seems like a good way to get loads that I can spread around, but has anyone used these before or have anything to say about it?

http://www.thebluesun.co.uk/acatalog/Orgonite_for_houses.html

Also does anyone have any recommendations for the type of orgonite that would be a good purchase for my home, like a bigger more powerful size?

Any suggestions would be great, im on a very small budget for now!

I am very interested also in how this can improve my garden and improve growth in my plants so I will definitely aim to do some experiments of my own once I have figured out what to buy.

Thanks all!

[paolo]

A few of these micro buttons were included with the latest issue of the Dot Connector magazine ("http://www.thedotconnector.org/mag/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=6)
Not sure what to do with them myself

[lordzoma]

Is regular vaseline ok for using as a lubricant? It's all I have at the moment.

[biblegirl]

Hello Lordzoma :). I'm sorry I don't know of experiences with vaseline as a lubricant yet, I believe cooking oil has been used, WD-40 works well and I use a silicone lubricant. What will you be using for molds? I believe Rich said that he does not use lubricant for glass molds. If you do try the vaseline, let us know how it turns out :).

[lordzoma]

Here is what I picked up so far.

This is a picture of the molds.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4281/hpim0264.jpg

I went to the dollar store and got a lot of random items. My sister is particularly excited about the dragonfly and the butterfly. She wants to make little mini animal shapes. I grabbed the martini glasses for some hhgs, and the pan for flower shaped tower busters. i also got the straight thin glass which I think won't work because it has a lip. I got two small traffic cones that i like.

Here is a picture of the crystals i bought. Right now they're all soaking in salt water.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6310/hpim0266q.jpg

I got 30 single terminated quartz crystals, 8 double terminated quartz with some black tourmaline in there and some with citrine., and some various pieces of hematite, tigers eye, amethyst, moonstone, citrine, rose quartz, and a little selenite. We also got a bag of iron pyrite dust and some quartz dust. I have a few personal pieces of larger crystals I may use, but I want to have some experience before I put them in there.

For metal I have a about a gallon volume of aluminum and steel spirals. They're shavings but they're all in spirals. So I'm going to make some coiled coils and put a lot of coils into my pieces.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6926/hpim0269p.jpg

We have a folgers coffee can filled with powdered steel. And a bunch of steel and brass little pieces.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2572/hpim0270y.jpg

We have a coffee can of aluminum punchouts.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4091/hpim0268.jpg

Tons of these little stainless steel bits, that are the size of grains of rice.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/171/hpim0267.jpg

We also have a small box of tiny zinc plated bolts. And I bought 100 feet of this thin copper wire which can be seen in the molds. I read here: http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/artorgoniteingredients.htm

about the ingredients.

And it said that aluminum and steel go well together. We don't have that much copper, but we do have some little pieces of brass. Mostly I'm working with aluminum and steel. with bits of zinc and copper.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of crazy designs I want to do. my sister will most likely take the lead when it comes to doing something artistic. I want to make some functional pieces. at least 2 HHGs, which eats up 8 of the 30 crystals, and 2 of the 8 double terminated ones. so I have to conserve considering every piece, even little ones, needs at least 1 crystal piece in it. 6 tower busters will be 6 crystals each, not to mention other pieces.

I also have about 2 shotglass fulls of these really tiny assorted crystals. and another 2 shotglass worth of just small rose quartz pieces. Any suggestions on how they might be used?

i'm excited about the coiled coil aspects, so I'm picturing a double terminated crystal with a coiled coil of steel wrapped around it. then the 4 crystals have coiled copper and coiled coil of aluminum. that would be cool.

I want to get fiberoptic cable, or the kind of plastic wires that glow, and make a tall pieces cone shaped with a flat bottom, with a small hollow chamber that houses the battery and switch, so you can turn the piece on. I think it would be cool to have lights around a central floating group of crystals. How amazing would that look? I want to work lights into it but it doesn't look like that will happen in this batch. my sister has a light that's perfect but she doesn't want to use it. :(

although if you notice, some of the molds are battery operated led lights. im thinking that if a piece had a slightly hollow bottom then it could be fit underneath it and make the whole thing glow.

we also got green blue red and yellow food coloring, to try to make some colored pieces.

Ok, any suggestions on how we should use our stash? any personal requests? let's hear it. I'd like to hear some feedback on the metals. i don't think i've seen much steel in any discussions on this forum, or am I just not remembering, that orgonite thread is almost 200 pages.

So as far as the vaseline or other possible lubricant (i think i have wd-40) we will be using thin plastic molds that are regular store packaging, some silicone molds, that baking pan, some glass cups, and some plastic cups. and some thicker higher quality plastic like that fish. So lots of molds. any clues on which lubricants i should use on which items? my sister is confident in the vaseline but I am very skeptical. I couldn't for the life of me find a spray lubricant on home depot and i was disappointed with their selection of copper wire. i literally have to strip 100 feet of wire of its plastic.

I would like to hear what everyone recommends for the powdered steel.


When the pieces are curing we're going to program teh crystals for specific purposes. I'm interested in devices that can pump just a straight hertz signal into the resin. I have some I Ching coins that I will be putting in the orgonite with crystals programmed for prosperity.

[j_shell]

just been trawling through the posts, excellent thread btw.

There's no mention of whether it's necessary to clean metal shavings from a machinists workshop. Might they have traces of mineral oil on them? If so how to clean them. I used pan scrubbers before but it's a chore to chop them up and ruins my scissors.

I made an HHG a year or so ago, had to search high and low for martini glasses here, eventually found one, only one, sprayed it with WD40 and the damn thing stuck like glue to the epoxy resin I'd used. I smashed the stem and base off and the shattered bits of glass fell off eventually. It was a bit disheartening and I'm afraid to use my precious metal muffin moulds for TB's. I don't mind gifting the tray, it's just that they're so hard to find here if it sticks.

Any thoughts on this anyone?

Gday White wolf,

Sprayable silicone lube is the way to go. I usually spray the inside and outside of the glass/mould, my gloves and the bench top as well, this way if you have any spills you can just wait till it dries and scrape it off with with a spatula.

The pic below is of the martini glass ive been using, its had about 5 pieces made in it and its still nice and clean.

All the best.

J:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=503&pictureid=4738

[disorder2k8]

woo thx biblegirl,

just got my organite gift you sent :)

I'm going to try and borrow my friends art paints and do a design on it

[biblegirl]

Wow Lordzoma, that's quite a stash there! Love the creative shapes and ideas, although thin plastic is known to melt or disfigure under the heat of the resin. If it is thick plastic then it will probably hold the shape alright, but the chances are you won't be able to get the orgonite out of the mold, even with lubricant. I tried plastic measuring spoons and others have used plastic ice cube trays and the orgonite just will not come out, lol. So those thick plastic ones might work okay if you don't mind the mold being a permanent part of the finished orgonite. The martini glass and baking dishes should be easy and hassle free for the most part. For the straight glass, is the top narrower than the bottom or middle of the glass? Some people just break the glass when the orgonite is done curing if it doesn't fit through the opening.

The spiral metals you got look really great. I wasn't able to get any copper for my first few batches, only steel, aluminum, and some bronze. They turned out great, I prefer the big turnings to the little pieces. Where did you get those aluminum punchouts? They look thin and light, that's great for the orgonite. The smaller steel pieces would be nice for decorative effects, like if you sprinkled some in the bottom of the martini glass mold while you're pouring, the finished piece will have a nice silvery cap. I did this with my smaller dust-type shavings and it turned out looking good, but I did have to take it easy with how much shavings I put in, since packed together tightly they can be too dense for the resin to envelope completely.

For the crystals I use just one quartz for each piece...the 5 crystal HHG layout is cool, but IMO the difference in using 1 or 5 is minimal. It might be nice to save your crystals and just try 1 in each piece for your first pour, so you get a better idea of how it all works, and if it doesn't turn out you will only be out one crystal rather than 5. From what I've researched so far, it seems amethyst, rose quartz, hematite, and tigers eye are safe enough to add to orgonite without having to be a gemstone guru. I am still looking into the others you mentioned. I know I will be using amethyst in my next batch, and I'm also hoping to find some rose quartz for it.

For the TBs, the tiny crystal from the shotglass should be good if you'd rather save your terminated crystals for the fancier or decorative pieces. Are you in the US Lordzoma? I almost tried to convert gallons to kg for you to give advice on how much resin to use, but I realized you said dollar store instead of pound store, so this might be easier than I thought :p. For your first pour you should probably try a maximum of a quart of resin. You may have only 10 minutes from the time you mix the resin to the time it starts to harden, so try to have absolutely everything ready and lubricated and set up before you mix. Also I would say maybe 8 pieces maximum for the first pour, because pushing down the metals and repositioning the crystal after the resin pushes it over etc. is time consuming, and if you have more pieces than that it might be a little overwhelming. Also try to have all the metal packed down to about 1 inch below the fill line or top of the mold, this way you can fill to the top with resin and not have any sharp metals poking out the bottom.

[heterophobia]

Hey guys great thread...just popping in...here to ask silly questions...

Can orgone be used to ensure safe travels, for example on a plane or while driving a car? I have a fear of driving and am always reluctant to go anywhere because of it. It puts a damper on my life. :o Will it help ease the woes and anxities?

How can orgone be used to charge food and beverages? Does it improve the taste of food?

[lordzoma]

Sounds like you need some black tourmaline. Orgonite can increase the energy manifestation of a particular type of crystal. If you want to dispel energy fears, try making some orgonite with black tourmaline in it and other grounding stones.

I believe just having any orgonite whatsoever around the food will charge it. If you wanted to charge something directly, you can make orgonite in coaster sizes so something can sit directly on top of it. most of the charging plates i've seen use coils.

The intention of the orgonite can be set by programming the crystal, hand selecting the crystals to mesh well together, or by programming the orgonite during the curing process. a lot of info can be found in the forums at http://www.warriormatrix.com.

All the metal we got from my sisters boyfriend Dan who works (will inherit) a metal factory. They don't work with copper but I can get a steady supply of aluminum and steel shavings. The aluminum punch outs he made for us.

We have enough molds that we'll do multiple batches in a row. I will definitely try having the silvery things on the bottom of one of the HHGS. I think I will make an HHG in my second batch so I have some experience with doing the pours, though that will probably not pan out and tomorrow i'll go straight for the hhg. I want to coil wrap all the crystal pieces i put in things. The coil wrap turned out to be more annoying than I thought it would be. stripping the wire is a pain. I also need to get some thicker coper wire so I can make a big coil for some hhgs.

Quick question about pouring that I'm not 100% about.

Should I put all the objects into the mold and then pour? Or should I put the metal in, put in a crystal layer, put some more metal, then pour resin into that, before adding more metal layers then put resin on top of that?

Will I be able to just add resin completely last?

If so then I could set up all the molds first with all the metals / crystals etc. and then just pour?

[jojo]

Quick question about pouring that I'm not 100% about.

Should I put all the objects into the mold and then pour? Or should I put the metal in, put in a crystal layer, put some more metal, then pour resin into that, before adding more metal layers then put resin on top of that?

Will I be able to just add resin completely last?

If so then I could set up all the molds first with all the metals / crystals etc. and then just pour?

I do it in stages LZ. Put the crystal(s) in first then poor a bit a resin in then add metal pieces, pour more resin, add more metal then pour resin etc....

have everything ready and to hand though, as once you add the hardener tothe resin, you only have about 7-10 mins before it starts to go gloopy and wont pour. mix less resin rather than more, as you can always make up more if you run out half way through. I often make it in stages so you can see he crystal then I add the metal.

make sure that you leave enough space to cover all the metal with resin at the end of the pour as they can be really sharp and scratchy if the bits are poking out the base.

good luck! cant wait to see your results! :) :) :)

[cryst4l]

Hey biblegirl :)

Did you ever get round to your crystal guide? If so, could you point me in the right direction ;)

I've decided to make some of my own pieces but would not know where to start with crystals.

Thanks in advance.

[biblegirl]

i'm excited about the coiled coil aspects, so I'm picturing a double terminated crystal with a coiled coil of steel wrapped around it. then the 4 crystals have coiled copper and coiled coil of aluminum. that would be cool.

Very interesting, I've seen a lot of the copper coiled crystals, I wonder how the other metals react??

I want to get fiberoptic cable, or the kind of plastic wires that glow, and make a tall pieces cone shaped with a flat bottom, with a small hollow chamber that houses the battery and switch, so you can turn the piece on. I think it would be cool to have lights around a central floating group of crystals. How amazing would that look? I want to work lights into it but it doesn't look like that will happen in this batch. my sister has a light that's perfect but she doesn't want to use it. :(

although if you notice, some of the molds are battery operated led lights. im thinking that if a piece had a slightly hollow bottom then it could be fit underneath it and make the whole thing glow.

I have seen an amazing illuminated orgonite piece and I always wondered how they did that! (I think it was on the warrior matrix site). I recently made a piece with a hollow chamber (by setting a metal cup in and building the orgonite around it), and I think I will try the next one with a clear glass cup instead of metal, so light can get through from the inside. Good thinking, I don't know much about fiber optic cables though, is it something that could endure the heat and compression of the curing resin?

we also got green blue red and yellow food coloring, to try to make some colored pieces.

I have been wondering if anyone has used ordinary food coloring for their resin, I know there are specialty craft pigments for it, but obviously food coloring would be much cheaper and easier if it works!


So as far as the vaseline or other possible lubricant (i think i have wd-40) we will be using thin plastic molds that are regular store packaging, some silicone molds, that baking pan, some glass cups, and some plastic cups. and some thicker higher quality plastic like that fish. So lots of molds. any clues on which lubricants i should use on which items? my sister is confident in the vaseline but I am very skeptical. I couldn't for the life of me find a spray lubricant on home depot and i was disappointed with their selection of copper wire. i literally have to strip 100 feet of wire of its plastic.

When the pieces are curing we're going to program teh crystals for specific purposes. I'm interested in devices that can pump just a straight hertz signal into the resin. I have some I Ching coins that I will be putting in the orgonite with crystals programmed for prosperity.

Maybe use vaseline for one piece that you wouldn't be bothered if it didn't come out of the mold, and then we'll know afterward if it works alright as a lubricant. I believe someone here has used cooking oil for lubricant?? WD-40 would be a surefire thing if you can find it. I like the idea of the I Ching coins, looking forward to the results :).


Quick question about pouring that I'm not 100% about.

Should I put all the objects into the mold and then pour? Or should I put the metal in, put in a crystal layer, put some more metal, then pour resin into that, before adding more metal layers then put resin on top of that?

Will I be able to just add resin completely last?

If so then I could set up all the molds first with all the metals / crystals etc. and then just pour?

This part is a little tricky, because you CAN set the objects in beforehand, but if they are heavy or packed densly, you will need to work with the resin and stir it around a bit to make sure everything gets fully enveloped. What I do now is set up some light, loose steel coils in all the molds, put a crystal in the center, then pour the resin over the top until it covers everything completely, then add some more metals and scraps if I feel it needs more (they sink right in to the resin). When I do the shavings in the very bottom of the mold for a gold cap effect, I pour a tad bit of resin into the empty mold, then sprinkle some shavings in, then more resin, then the metal and crystal. I would say the thing to be on the lookout for is a good layer of resin at the bottom of the mold, and a good layer of resin on top, so you don't have metals poking out either direction, and all crystal/metal gets fully encased. :)

[lordzoma]

Everything's getting set up right now. I'm gonna select my crystals for each piece first then wire wrap the crystals. prepare an idea for which metals I'll use in which and then start my first batch. I'll have pictures tomorrow. I'm nervous!

[jojo]

Everything's getting set up right now. I'm gonna select my crystals for each piece first then wire wrap the crystals. prepare an idea for which metals I'll use in which and then start my first batch. I'll have pictures tomorrow. I'm nervous!

also hold the crystal (s) in your hands and send in energy matey :)

good luck, enjoy the batch. :) its such good fun to make, dont be nervous.

[lordzoma]

Ok. Here's pics of the first batch.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3746/hpim0272s.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6193/hpim0273.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5871/hpim0274s.jpg

Ok first. I made two martini glass HHGS. We used vaseline as the lubricant. Every mold was plastic.

The HHGS used a double terminated quartz with copper wire wrapped around, and 4 quartz crystals pointing outward. I used the steel shavings and aluminum and steel bits. They each had some rose quartz and a little tigers eye and amethyst. The resin wasn't clear so I used a lot of the food coloring. As you can see of the HHG with the copper coil I used green and blue food coloring. I don't know how it will look once it gets taken out of the mold. I used layers of steel powder in the blue coiled one, and i also had some brass bits in there. The blue coiled one, I fed a copper wire through a long piece of coiled steel, then I coiled that around the double terminated crystal, so it had a coil of copper around it, and a coiled coil of steel. It looked awesome, it's too bad it's locked forever invisible inside the HHG.

Most of the orgonite pieces had little tiny pieces of assorted crystal in them. I charged all the crystals with a tibetan bell.

The fish has 3 i ching coins in it. none of the shaped pieces, like the dolphin or star or octopus or alligator had copper coils in it. They all used assorted crystal bits.

The ice cream glass one has two pieces of quartz. one double terminated with copper coils the other single terminated without coper. different layers of different colored resin with lots of metal shavings and aluminum. I just dumped a lot in and made sure to have plenty of metal. It also used a lot of tiny crystals. The purple traffic cone is very very blue resin, with standard metals, and tigers eye and an uncoiled quartz. Then there's that flower mold which is tigers eye, quartz and metal.

In the second picture you can see a finished dolphin and turtle. no quartz in those just tiny pieces of metal and tiny bits of crystal. some powdered crystal too.

The 3 muffin pan ones are each slightly different. we colored them red yellow and green, although you can barely tell because of the darn brown resin. coils of metal, random bits of tigers eye, citrine, and amethyst. 1 pieces of quartz in each coiled with copper.

We stopped after making all these so we can see how it comes out. we went through 2 quarts of the brown resin, but I think tomorrow we're gonna get some clear resin from somewhere. i have a lot of nice crystal pieces yet and I want them to be able to be seen inside the resin. I wanted to make a badass pyramid but I can't find a pyramid mold and I'm not really sure whre to find them.

The whole project was very messy.

All of the pieces came out well I think, but it's the blue coiled HHG that to me has the most powerful energy. I'm convinced it's the coiled coil around the double terminated crystal, and I was excited about putting the copper spiral on it. I saw a lot of pieces with those and I figured it would be great. The spiral didn't come out so great but I'm sure it's very functional.

JOJO I looked at all your pieces in that whole collection. Wow you made some amazing pieces. Clear resin makes it look so amazing.

[ustane]

Since I have had some orgonite I now sleep very deeply, for the first time in years of being a light sleeper since I had a baby.:) I also have more vivid dreams and remember them more clearly.

[blind_raven]

Thanks for the brilliant thread! After having seen this, I have become convienced that there might just be something to this and have decided to purchase Orgonite for some personal experimentation. Im excited to see the effects for myself.

Thanks again!

[biblegirl]

The very idea of gifting is really important to me, being somewhat of a guerilla gardener as well, I like to spread the love so I was wondering what I should get to start off with. I don't have a lot of money so I am thinking I will get a large piece of orgonite and then maybe some smaller ones to gift to friends and also to spread around the different environments I have to work in.

I was looking on the bluesun (as recommended) site and noted they have micro orgone which seems like a good way to get loads that I can spread around, but has anyone used these before or have anything to say about it?

http://www.thebluesun.co.uk/acatalog/Orgonite_for_houses.html

Also does anyone have any recommendations for the type of orgonite that would be a good purchase for my home, like a bigger more powerful size?

Any suggestions would be great, im on a very small budget for now!

I am very interested also in how this can improve my garden and improve growth in my plants so I will definitely aim to do some experiments of my own once I have figured out what to buy.

Thanks all!

Hello adzboarder :). You might check with forum member blackice, who may still be giving away free orgonite pieces for garden experimentation, out of Brighton. Also some good values at this site http://www.whale.to/orgone/hhgs.htm with an HHG at 4.50. The orgone gifting pack at blue sun with 12 TBs for 25.00 is a great value, and if it was me I would probably buy a pack like that to start with for the garden. The big HHGs are nicer for house placement, as many as you feel you'd like or can afford :). I just had a look at the micro orgone, those are cute lol! They do look like they pack a punch, would probably be good for cell phone, computer, planted near seeds, etc.

Hey guys great thread...just popping in...here to ask silly questions...

Can orgone be used to ensure safe travels, for example on a plane or while driving a car? I have a fear of driving and am always reluctant to go anywhere because of it. It puts a damper on my life. :o Will it help ease the woes and anxities?

How can orgone be used to charge food and beverages? Does it improve the taste of food?

Funny that you mention it, because I take orgonite with me on planes and in the car in the hopes of it helping to calm me down. It seems to even out my mood no matter where I am or what I'm doing, so I would say it helps with anxiety in that respect. I have not noticed a particular change in taste of food, but I have noticed it with water if I put on a coaster. It tastes more...earthy, if that makes any sense :).

Hey biblegirl :)

Did you ever get round to your crystal guide? If so, could you point me in the right direction ;)

I've decided to make some of my own pieces but would not know where to start with crystals.

Thanks in advance.

Hello, here is a post I did on crystals:
http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106083&postcount=59

Any more questions, feel free to ask! :)

[biblegirl]

Ok. Here's pics of the first batch.


Hey looking good lordzoma! I actually quite like the dolphin and the turtle! Brilliant ideas there, it looks like you've turned out some great pieces. Thanks for posting :).

[lordzoma]

Yeahhhhh.. get this.

It turns out all the little animals were hollow. So we are using those for the molds.


I set up my laptop so that it was blasting a 741 Hz sine wave sound (Sol from the solfeggio frequency) to program the orgonite to that frequency. It is said to assist in problem solving. The http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com website stressed the importance and benefit of curing the orgonite in a certain way. i used this program http://www.nch.com.au/tonegen/index.html which works for free.

I think people should consider doing it. You can program your orgonite to the frequencies of your chakras, coordinate stones and metals, and make powerful specific tools. I just find that concept totally fascinating.

So there I was talking to Dan about how an HHG works in a 3/4 mile radius and how the sound would help activate the orgonite, when it suddenly dawned on me.

You can put Orgonite inside of other orgonite. You could make a few pieces then put them in a larger piece in order to maximize their effect.

OR you can do it for artistic effect.

Since I used brown fiberglass resin in order to make my orgonite it came out brown, and we used food coloring to make it different colors.

NOW - I want to use clear resin to make pieces that you can see through.

So why not make a big clear resin piece of orgonite, with metal for the sands and the top of the sea, maybe stones for the sun or the moon or stars.

You could suspend colored animals inside the clear resin. So you could have say, a little green turtle of orgonite, swimming through clear resin towards a crystal cluster, or maybe a suspended small pyramid of orgonite. Dolphin orgonite suspended near the top of the water swimming in a group. An Octopus orgonite down by the bottom.

I AM OFFICIALLY GOING TO MAKE

The worlds first ORGONITE AQUARIUM.

It's coming soon, exclusively to the david icke forum. lol.

I'm excited. A few copper wool pads for parts, if not just a little patience stripping copper wire. Then I just make a bunch more orgonite animals and an orgonite treasure chest. Then design the tank, use a big mold and go nuts.

They would still function of course! The matrix of the organic layer gets expanded. It should still work! I am convinced and it will have to create the coolest orgonite pieces possible.

I think everyone should start experimenting with this. It can't hard to find some animal molds to get started. Where's the orgonite farm?

You could even mold little sticks of orgonite, then use those to build something with them inside the clear resin. The possibilities are endless.

I would like to make some pieces that art small shapes of orgonite focused on one crystal each, then have those suspended inside the clear orgonite in a pattern.

Who's with me?


PS I think I did my copper coils counter clockwise. I'll switch to clockwise for the next pieces.

[rich]

Is regular vaseline ok for using as a lubricant? It's all I have at the moment.

Yes vaseline is fine, as is olive oil etc, but certain oils may taint the colour, and, you need to rub them in really well, when I used vaseline it created a cracking/rippled effect from being to thick and clumping somewhat. So use a very small ammount and rub like mad!

I use silicone spray on glass (sometimes) as it can then be rubbed in really easily with a lint free cloth, plus it is very cheap on ebay etc.

Best Wishes

Rich

[adzboarder]

Hello adzboarder :). You might check with forum member blackice, who may still be giving away free orgonite pieces for garden experimentation, out of Brighton. Also some good values at this site http://www.whale.to/orgone/hhgs.htm with an HHG at 4.50. The orgone gifting pack at blue sun with 12 TBs for 25.00 is a great value, and if it was me I would probably buy a pack like that to start with for the garden. The big HHGs are nicer for house placement, as many as you feel you'd like or can afford :). I just had a look at the micro orgone, those are cute lol! They do look like they pack a punch, would probably be good for cell phone, computer, planted near seeds, etc.

Thanks Biblegirl, on reflection you are right, i am going to start with the gifting pack. As for the micro orgone, I didn't think of that at all, I can slide one into the back of my mobile for a start and I think there is a good place to attach and insert them into the nooks and crannies of my laptop - great idea!

These micro ones can be easily spread around and you could give away little handfuls to people who need them. I am totally into the ideas on this thread and cant wait to get my hands on some. Time to submit my first order into the interwebs methinks!

Cheers and best wishes :)

[adzboarder]

Hurrah just ordered the gifting pack! £25 plus a massive £8.95 for delivery.

I figured it's well worth every penny. Hope I'm right!!? :)

[elisa]

Hi!

As someone who has never heard of such a thing as orgonite, I'm finding this thread pretty interesting. Does it really have effects?

I tend to be very skeptical, but well, I also used to not really believe a friend of mine who was a total believer in rocks and gemstones and minerals until I had some pretty interesting experiences myself, so I'll keep on reading.

Thanks for the info, guys!

[cryst4l]

Hello, here is a post I did on crystals:
http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106083&postcount=59

Any more questions, feel free to ask! :)

Hi biblegirl,

Thanks for the link, thread now bookmarked :)

[rowantk]

Not sure if this has been asked but.......Has anyone been around Orgonite while on a trip? Using LSD, Mushrooms or DMT? Were there any visuals from the Orgonite?
I know it may seem abit of a silly question...but :D

[biblegirl]

Not sure if this has been asked but.......Has anyone been around Orgonite while on a trip? Using LSD, Mushrooms or DMT? Were there any visuals from the Orgonite?
I know it may seem abit of a silly question...but :D

This is an excellent question, seriously. I haven't tried it but I'd really like to see some reports on this.

[rich]

Not sure if this has been asked but.......Has anyone been around Orgonite while on a trip? Using LSD, Mushrooms or DMT? Were there any visuals from the Orgonite?
I know it may seem abit of a silly question...but :D

One guy I recall, might have been matt from loveforgifting (though I think he relayed this on the old non-branded icke forum), relayed that he could see the blue energy shooting from his devices when on lsd (think it was a cloudbuster, but might have been a smaller device), he said it was very cool!

Take Care

Rich

[lordzoma]

NEW RULE:

NEVER use vaseline as a lubricant for hard plastic.

NEVER do this.

The two HHGs I made and the tower (which is going to go inside the cylinder aquarium) stuck with this horrible sticky substance. My friend is going to use a circular saw to cot them off then we'll pry the plastic off and have to sand the pieces down a bit.

Also after doing the math, I ordered 4 dozen TBs from warriormatrix.com 's site which is orgonecrystal or crystals.com i think. I'd rather have his pieces with their added blue kyanite and selenite added in then to have to worry about making my own for gifting purposes. anything i make by hand is going to me or people i know not tossed random places. It's more cost effective for me.

I am also getting an HHG from their site just to have one of them to compare in quality to the ones I make so I know what I'm shooting for.

I'm excited about the aquarium idea. I am going to make a cylinder one with the tower inside of it, with little animals swimming around it, so you can turn it around and see the different animals. each animal will be totally colored with food coloring, so their shavings / crystals will be hidden. and i'm definitely going to make a cool scene. then i'll make an aquarium that is just a rectangle with not too much depth that will be a one sided display piece. right now I'm thinking a green turtle swimming down towards a big crystal with a pile of little crystals around it, and pieces of swirling copper floating around it like lines of power. And I'll throw in some copper wire waves inside the water. My goal is to start making them within 2 weeks. I need to accumulate some more supplies.

I also like the idea of making a little itty bitty piece of orgonite the size of a marble that the dolphin orgonites will be playing with.

I think some of the other people like biblegirl and jojo who make a lot of orgonite should give making little scenes a try. the little tiny plastic pieces for animal molds work fine with vaseline. They're tiny enough they just pop out.

Jojo I think your kid could design a cool scene and then you could make it with him. Now wouldn't that be a picture worthy of hanging on the refridgerator?

[wobbler]

Has anyone used wood as a mould ?

[cryst4l]

Has anyone used wood as a mould ?

Hmmm..not sure about that wobbler. The grain of the wood would show up on the piece you make, no matter how well it would be sanded down.........unless, yes, Balsa wood may do the job, finely sanded, maybe anyway :)

[cryst4l]

Balsa woood, would also have the advantage of being able to sculpt almost any type of moulding you liked, not sure if it would be water tight though, so some form of rubber coating on the joins would be required.

[jojo]

im going to use wood IN my next batch... but not as a mould. i suspect it would not be good as the mix would stick, unless you want the mould as part of the final piece. that would look quite nice

[cryst4l]

im going to use wood IN my next batch... but not as a mould. i suspect it would not be good as the mix would stick, unless you want the mould as part of the final piece. that would look quite nice

Or even better, sculpt a balsa wood mould and then cover with some type of modelling clay and hey presto :D

Like the sound of wood within the orgonite JoJo. I have been thinking about this alot, and I think my first batch will consist of some rose petals and like.

[wobbler]

Hmmm..not sure about that wobbler. The grain of the wood would show up on the piece you make, no matter how well it would be sanded down.........unless, yes, Balsa wood may do the job, finely sanded, maybe anyway :)

Not too worried about the appearance as they will be tactical rather than nice to look at, its just I've nearly got everything together for a monster pour except moulds and I thought rather than trying to get lots of cake tins, I have lots of wood, tools and time.

I wanted to make the moulds crystal (hexagon) shaped and could make it so some parts could be removed, perhaps it would be better to search the junk shops for cake tins.

[cryst4l]

Not too worried about the appearance as they will be tactical rather than nice to look at, its just I've nearly got everything together for a monster pour except moulds and I thought rather than trying to get lots of cake tins, I have lots of wood, tools and time.

I wanted to make the moulds crystal (hexagon) shaped and could make it so some parts could be removed, perhaps it would be better to search the junk shops for cake tins.

It would be great if you could experiment with one though wobbler.

Maybe make a small one to start and go from there :)

Lots of wood, tools and time, you must be a chippy lol

[cf24]

How about a nice big piece of orgonite, with a nice lookin sticky bud inside?? :D

I might even get around to that one...

[cf24]

Good thread btw, i'm gunna try some out on my tomatoes in the garden.....:D

[cryst4l]

:mad::(:mad:

My resin supplier was not at his shop today and is not answering his phone.

Hopefully he will return my call or it's now Monday for my resin :(

[jojo]

How about a nice big piece of orgonite, with a nice lookin sticky bud inside?? :D

I might even get around to that one...

nice one boyo! although i would prefer to smoke it matey!

[cryst4l]

nice one boyo! although i would prefer to smoke it matey!

LOL I second that!

[dancing_with_durga]

How about a nice big piece of orgonite, with a nice lookin sticky bud inside?? :D

I might even get around to that one...

Now that would be a real act of sacrifice so it would be very powerful I'd imagine!
.

[heterophobia]

Sounds like you need some black tourmaline. Orgonite can increase the energy manifestation of a particular type of crystal. If you want to dispel energy fears, try making some orgonite with black tourmaline in it and other grounding stones.

I believe just having any orgonite whatsoever around the food will charge it. If you wanted to charge something directly, you can make orgonite in coaster sizes so something can sit directly on top of it. most of the charging plates i've seen use coils.

The intention of the orgonite can be set by programming the crystal, hand selecting the crystals to mesh well together, or by programming the orgonite during the curing process. a lot of info can be found in the forums at http://www.warriormatrix.com.

Thank you so much Lordzoma. I definitely think the black tourmaline is something that will be useful to me. I really appreciate it.

This question is not necessarily directed towards you lordzoma, but anyone that can answer it and help me. I also forgot to mention in regards to orgone being used as a demon repellant, along with black tourmaline could possibly be used in an experimental DIY Exorcism?? I had an exorcism a few weeks ago and it didn’t work. In fact I feel worse now than I've ever felt before. The impression that I was given was that after the exorcism life would be better for me and everything would fall into place. A heck of a lot of money was invested in something that didn’t work. Furthermore, most of my days consist of sleeping as if all my energy is waning. Is excess sleeping (more than 14 hours a day) part of demonic possession? I am not overweight or diabetic and I used to be active in martial arts, so I’m thinking it has to be something feeding off my energy. There is much more to this than poor sleep, but it's too much to get into and somewhat embarassing.

For many years I thought my problems were primarily psychological. In the past I've been "sent away" and taken several different medications, but my problems did anything but go away. I’d actually prefer if my problems were psychological over spiritual, because psychological problems seem easier to cure or that may be an illusion.

So far at different periods of my life a psychic, a demonologist, a remote viewer and clairvoyant told me that I am actually possessed by multiple demonic entities since I was a fetus in the womb. BTW I know who put the hex on me, it was actually my mother's stepmother, whom she didnt get along with. My mother was an initial target in the hex, but it mostly affected me and the way my life has been so far.

Now I’ve decided to look into gemstones, essential oils, smudging white sage, prayers, affirmations and http://www.deeptrancenow.com/spirit-releasement.htm, etc as a way to expel the demons that are in my life. I’ll simply have to take matters into my own hands. Since the exorcism I had so much faith in didn’t work. I’ve heard that sometimes one exorcism isn’t enough and some people need multiple ones. I'm hoping that it will work, because I just feel so trapped and despondent.

Does anyone here have any experience with exorcisms? I don’t know where else to inquire about this.


Funny that you mention it, because I take orgonite with me on planes and in the car in the hopes of it helping to calm me down. It seems to even out my mood no matter where I am or what I'm doing, so I would say it helps with anxiety in that respect. I have not noticed a particular change in taste of food, but I have noticed it with water if I put on a coaster. It tastes more...earthy, if that makes any sense :).
Hello, here is a post I did on crystals:
http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106083&postcount=59

Any more questions, feel free to ask! :)
Thank you biblegirl, it's good to know that orgone can ease some of the anxiety during travel. :)

[paolo]

Hiya. Let's put a nice Ritalin pill in there for all those ADHD kids
Lets beam em the ritalin
Only joshing!!!

[lordzoma]

Exorcisms are an act of polarity. I'd advise you find a Kung Fu Master through the yellow pages that can assist you in clearing your energy.

Meanwhile black tourmaline, sage, and some visualization of gold energy will help you out tremendously to start grounding yourself. Get yourself some orgonite, and find that kung fu master.

[cosmic sage]

Hey biblegirl first of all want to say great forum! It took me a couple of days but I read through the all the entries and looked over the Q&A's. I am about to make my first batch of Orgonite gonna try a few different methods this batch. Most of my questions have been answered except these: I'm not sure if you've made pendants so this is to all memebers-
I have a few different molds for the pendants and aquired some sterling silver loops to imbedd in the pendants. The question is how do you get the loops in the pendant before it drys when its contained in the mold? I have seen a few videos on pendants but they are'nt specific or show how its done. My molds are metal, one is a mini muffin pan others are various shaped small cookie cutters(heart,oval,star) I am permenantly attaching to a cookie sheet with adhesive. Maybe it has to be a silicone pan? to be able to bend the pan while the orgonite is solid enough to stand the moving but still amendable enough to insert the loop?
I might have answered my own question LOL. Hope there is another way as I already have the metal ones and have spent alot of money on suppllies already!I have some other questions too, I'll add them to another section though.Thanks !

[cosmic sage]

Ok here are some other questions I have ,I see most people put crushed or small pieces of quartz in pendants and the micro orgonite pieces. Does crushing quartz negate some of the effects? It seems to me it would though I have worked with crystals for awhile and other stones/minerals I don't really know much about how this would effect the crystals field and energy. I assume it would be better to put crushed crystals in there than none at all though right? I know the resin and metals are primarily what does the job, the crystals just amplify the effect. Ok theres that one. Now I went to a few machine and fabrications shops and got alot of shavings,bits,and chips of aluminum,steel,and Titanium! I have'nt seen anyone mention titanium curious as to what everyone has to say about it. I got lucky scoring it as its really expensive and the guy made that clear when he gave it to me. Also I have seen a few comments on how to clean off the coolant that is on the shavings. But none really addressed my issue, I have alot of shavings! Various lengths and sizes someone said something about orange cleaner, that is impratical for me, because of the volume of shavings I have. Also paint thinner or mineral spirits sound irrational as it seems to be trading one residue for another. The aluminum I could probably soak in water and dish detergent maybe? But the steel and titanum I don't want to mess with water for rusting reasons. I would'nt worry about it at all but some of it is really covered in coolant.
So any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated greatly. I will take some pics of my supplies,molds,and stuff and post them on here soon. I actually joined the site just to contribute to this forum and be able to post here! This is really exciting and I'm sttoked to try my first batch. Thanks so much for all the brilliant ideas and concise answers to the questions everyone has posted.

[cryst4l]

Hi Cosmic,

Welcome to the forum :)

Well done with the titanium, that's a good find and I cannot see why you shouldn't put it in but then I'm no expert :o

As for the coolant, I had an idea for this, if you was to sprinkle or sieve sand over the metal it should then stick to the coolant and allow this to be washed off. Not sure if that will work but makes sense to give it a go. If sand is not an option then what about normal soil?

[cosmic sage]

I just acquired a bunch of crystals and other stones/gems for a ridiculously good price from a wholeseller I know here in Fl. I should get them all tomorrow in the mail! I have seen soome people say some gems/stones are not very good to use in orgonite,like Rose Quartz and Citrine among a few others. So I wanted opinions on what I have acquired. I have various other gems I am gonna use as well but these are the bulk items to use in gifting,TB's,HHG's, and pieces I will give to family/friends. I plan on this being a continious thing once I get rolling! I know all the quartz will work great but would like opinions on the others. So here is what I am getting:

6 ozs. of Double terminated Singing Quartz (personal uses)
1 lb. of Tibetan Double Terminated Quartz
2 lbs. of broken chunks of Singing Quartz
1 lb. of Tumbled Brazilian Quartz
1/2 lb. of Polished Malachite Nuggets
1 lb. of Black Torrmaline Crystals with Rubelite Centers and Indicolite Green Ends(excited!)

So those are the bulk pieces plus plan on using some Tigers Eye,Pyrite,Moonstone,and a few others as well in my personal ones and pieces for family and friends.

I will take some pics and post them when I get the crystals along with my molds and stuff.
Thanks everyone! Love this Forum!Peace

[cosmic sage]

Thanks cryst 41 sand would be great for the aluminum but I'm worried about the steel and titanium rusting from washing it off with water. I guess if I do that and rinse and dry it all with fans it would be okay. I probably will try that. Some of the steel already is a little rusted just from moisture in the air from where I got it. Thanks!

[lordzoma]

COSMICSAGE: Buy some Selenite and put it in every piece you ever make to keep the pieces charged. Selenite will make it so they never lose their charge. Don't be stingy when you add the selenite.

Also I'd recommend some amethyst in your HHGs. It really makes the pieces soothing, which is really good for use in doors.

COSMIC - you can crush quartz in Orgonite but you want a solid terminated piece as the primary crystal. It will help create the effect you need to transmit the energy out of the matrix.

SENSEI at warriormatrix.com has pieces where he uses nano grade metals, and solid crystals or even crushed up crystals weren't enough to transmit the energy. He had to purchase lemurian seed crystals and crush them up then send them away to be turned into nano size and added to the mix. Then he uses some technique to magnetize the metal so that north is north and south is south. You should check out his forum.

It's the metal that brings in the energy and the crystal that transmutes it. Too many crystals and not enough metal means not enough energy is being absorbed to make it worthwhile to transmute. Adding crushed crystals will be great for effect, but if there isn't a primary crystal or if there isn't enough metal it's just artistic license.

[biblegirl]

Hey biblegirl first of all want to say great forum!
I have a few different molds for the pendants and aquired some sterling silver loops to imbedd in the pendants. The question is how do you get the loops in the pendant before it drys when its contained in the mold? I have seen a few videos on pendants but they are'nt specific or show how its done. My molds are metal, one is a mini muffin pan others are various shaped small cookie cutters(heart,oval,star) I am permenantly attaching to a cookie sheet with adhesive. Maybe it has to be a silicone pan? to be able to bend the pan while the orgonite is solid enough to stand the moving but still amendable enough to insert the loop?


Welcome to the forum cosmic sage! I wish I had better advice for you on the pendants, as I am figuring that out for myself. The thing is, once the resin hardens, the metal pieces that are sticking out can break right off, so I wouldn't want that to happen to your silver loops. As far as I know the best way to do a pendant is to arrange to have a small hole as part of the mold, or to use a drill after all is said and done. I have not used the drill before :p. But I stood up a smooth metal drill bit positioned slightly away from the side of the muffin mold, then poured. I was able to pull out the drill bit with pliers later after the resin cured, thus having a hole to string some cord through. Does that make sense? I'll try to upload some pictures of this. I'm hoping to just find a pendant mold that already provides for an opening. Haven't found one yet :p.

Ok here are some other questions I have ,I see most people put crushed or small pieces of quartz in pendants and the micro orgonite pieces. Does crushing quartz negate some of the effects? It seems to me it would though I have worked with crystals for awhile and other stones/minerals I don't really know much about how this would effect the crystals field and energy. I assume it would be better to put crushed crystals in there than none at all though right? I know the resin and metals are primarily what does the job, the crystals just amplify the effect. Ok theres that one.

I admit I don't like the idea of crushing up quartz all that much. I don't even like stones to be cut or tumbled though, I just prefer the rawest most natural form. I've heard the crushed quartz works just fine though, most people used these for gifting I believe. I like to use my best crystals for pendants.

Now I went to a few machine and fabrications shops and got alot of shavings,bits,and chips of aluminum,steel,and Titanium! I have'nt seen anyone mention titanium curious as to what everyone has to say about it. I got lucky scoring it as its really expensive and the guy made that clear when he gave it to me. Also I have seen a few comments on how to clean off the coolant that is on the shavings. But none really addressed my issue, I have alot of shavings! Various lengths and sizes someone said something about orange cleaner, that is impratical for me, because of the volume of shavings I have. Also paint thinner or mineral spirits sound irrational as it seems to be trading one residue for another. The aluminum I could probably soak in water and dish detergent maybe? But the steel and titanum I don't want to mess with water for rusting reasons. I would'nt worry about it at all but some of it is really covered in coolant.
So any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated greatly. I will take some pics of my supplies,molds,and stuff and post them on here soon. I actually joined the site just to contribute to this forum and be able to post here! This is really exciting and I'm sttoked to try my first batch. Thanks so much for all the brilliant ideas and concise answers to the questions everyone has posted.

you got titatium....TITANIUM??!!! :rolleyes::eek::D

geez lucky you!!! titanium makes top of the line orgonite!! titanium and gold are right up there as the best metals you can aquire for this, so that's awesome you got some :). i would definitely save that for pendants and personal pieces if it was me!!

Yeah the mineral spirits/paint thinner thing isn't my favorite thing to do, but the truth is it does the job, and I wash the spirits off directly after with eucalyptus soap. I do wish there was a better way, but the coolant is pretty stubborn sometimes.

Glad you joined, looking forward to seeing your finished products!

[cosmic sage]

COSMICSAGE: Buy some Selenite and put it in every piece you ever make to keep the pieces charged. Selenite will make it so they never lose their charge. Don't be stingy when you add the selenite.

Also I'd recommend some amethyst in your HHGs. It really makes the pieces soothing, which is really good for use in doors.

COSMIC - you can crush quartz in Orgonite but you want a solid terminated piece as the primary crystal. It will help create the effect you need to transmit the energy out of the matrix.

SENSEI at warriormatrix.com has pieces where he uses nano grade metals, and solid crystals or even crushed up crystals weren't enough to transmit the energy. He had to purchase lemurian seed crystals and crush them up then send them away to be turned into nano size and added to the mix. Then he uses some technique to magnetize the metal so that north is north and south is south. You should check out his forum.

It's the metal that brings in the energy and the crystal that transmutes it. Too many crystals and not enough metal means not enough energy is being absorbed to make it worthwhile to transmute. Adding crushed crystals will be great for effect, but if there isn't a primary crystal or if there isn't enough metal it's just artistic license.



Thanks lordzoma! I can't send it out to get "nano sized" or anything like that.I am getting 2 lbs. of already broken Singing Crystals. The problem I have is that I am gonna make relatively small pendants and they won't hold a crystal that is'nt super small. I also want to make some small pieces to place on the bacck of cell phones, these will be even smaller and fitting a whole crystal would be almost impossible. I have'nt received my shipment yet maybe there are some supersmall terminated pieces in the batch!

So I guess that answered part of my question. So your saying really small or crushed quartz is not very effective? Lemurian Seed Crystals can be expensive and I already spent some dough on all my supplies,resin, and the crystals. I am broke now! I just want some more feedback before I make the pendants, anyone who has made pendants and can tell me about the process of installing the loops especially if its possible to do so from a small metal mufffin pan or other metal molds.

Also I realize the metal is essential, and I hear its supposed to be a 50/50 mix organic(resin) and non-organic(metals). It seems alot of the pics I see are slap full of metal and looks like it would be more than a 50/50 ratio. Is the 50/50 ratio crucial for optimal performance? Seems it would be awfully hard to judge with liquid resin what the ratio is. I am probably thinking too hard on this, just want the orgonite to be the most powerful possible. Thanks for the selenite and amethysts suggestions, might have to wait for the next batch though, broke right now! I do have some personal amethyst pieces but their big and I don't want to break them up.

P.S.- Worked on your aquarium yet?I think that was you lol read so many posts here!

[paolo]

Herkimer diamonds are always dt and can come very small.
They're like a concentrated dt quartz with their own particular qualities and tend to maintain their charge and charge other crystals in the mix
I've always put one in pendants and other small pieces as main crystal
ps yes I'm still hoping to find some titanium

[cosmic sage]

Ok I got an answer to my question on the pendants that seems to be the best method for attaching the loops. I was told to drill a small hole at the top of the piece and run a small piece of wire through it. Then intertwine the wire with the loop and glue it in. Hope this helps anyone else curious about the process.Also I took some pics of my molds and the metal I am going to use. Here they are.

The metals in the first pic are Aluminum,Steel,And Titanium Shavings and chips
The second one is just thee Titianium
Then I have copper coated zic bb's and stripped 12 and 14 gauge copper
I also have some small brass safety pins I am gonna throw in some
I have various molds from stars,hearts,a fish,martini glasses,ovals,a small water color paint holder for little cell phone pieces(its plastic a little worried about that one) and of course muffin pans.


I am also curious about bronze, how are its effects compared to the other metals?I have seen some really cool pieces with bronze gears in them.I woukld like to get some different sources of copper other than the wire. I might get some brass,copper,and bronze and just drill press the hell out of it to get shavings. Would be really labor intensive though! Peace

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http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/131.jpg

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http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/136.jpg

[biblegirl]

So I guess that answered part of my question. So your saying really small or crushed quartz is not very effective? Lemurian Seed Crystals can be expensive and I already spent some dough on all my supplies,resin, and the crystals.


I think the crushed quartz is fine effectiveness-wise, there are a few benefits to having terminated as far as energy direction, but the bigger is not necessarily the better.


Also I realize the metal is essential, and I hear its supposed to be a 50/50 mix organic(resin) and non-organic(metals). It seems alot of the pics I see are slap full of metal and looks like it would be more than a 50/50 ratio. Is the 50/50 ratio crucial for optimal performance? Seems it would be awfully hard to judge with liquid resin what the ratio is. I am probably thinking too hard on this, just want the orgonite to be the most powerful possible. Thanks for the selenite and amethysts suggestions, might have to wait for the next batch though, broke right now! I do have some personal amethyst pieces but their big and I don't want to break them up.


About the 50/50 ratio....I think the important thing is to have the metal contents greater than the total surface area of the finished piece, so basically packed in there :). The shavings you got look PERFECT by the way. Also there is some caution as to gemstone combinations, some of them don't combine very well with others so it's good to know something about them before mixing them in. Rose quartz, amethyst, and tiger eye seem to be safe IMO. I just made some of my first amethyst pieces and I LOVE them.


I have various molds from stars,hearts,a fish,martini glasses,ovals,a small water color paint holder for little cell phone pieces(its plastic a little worried about that one) and of course muffin pans.

All the molds look excellent with the exception of the plastic one...if you want to get the pieces back out that one won't work, but if you don't mind the orgonite and the mold being permanently one piece then it's all good.

I am also curious about bronze, how are its effects compared to the other metals?I have seen some really cool pieces with bronze gears in them.I woukld like to get some different sources of copper other than the wire. I might get some brass,copper,and bronze and just drill press the hell out of it to get shavings. Would be really labor intensive though! Peace


I've been using bronze in almost all of my orgonite but I do it a little more sparingly, making the bulk of the piece with aluminum or steel. The bronze seems to do great. Copper wire is fun to play with wrapping and stuff, but I too would prefer copper scraps to wire sometimes. :)

[cosmic sage]

Thanks biblegirl appreciate the insight! I am going to try and find some more brass and some bronze.Yeah I gotta find some different sources of copper I definately want some chips or shavings too.The pieces i saw with the small gears was very aesthetically pleasing and cool.I think those pics I saw might of been brass actually but still cool.Would'nt know where to find those though, I am gonna go to a local scrap yard soon and see if I can buy some copper,bronze, or brass shavings or chips off them. We'll see what they say.

As far as the crushed crystals everyone is telling me they are quite effective so.....
I have'nt received my shipment of crystals yet, I am getting 2 lbs. of broken singing quartz so maybe there are small terminated pieces in it. What do you know about singing quartz? I had'nt really even heard of it besides the bowls before the guy told me he had it. They are abit rare I guess so I am stoked. They "sing" if you tap 2 pieces together I guess.

Here is some of the info I found on them:


"Singing Quartz expresses the spectrum of sound compatible with spectrum of light; attunes the body to energy and reality of higher self; opens and releases energy blockages; alligns the energies of the body; smooths the aura; stimulates clairaudience; brings communication with celestial beings."

"Singing quartz is quite a treasure, and will take some diligence to find. These crystals are small - usually about 3-4 inches in length.

Singing quartz is quite interesting. The sound is sweet, the energy is strong, but somewhat haunting. It is as if these crystals have hidden secrets in their songs, but the secrets are of sacrifices made by people long ago.

Singing quartz is used almost exclusively as a personal talisman. They should be gently tapped together, and the should allowed to linger in the still air. Careful attention to the thoughts they provoke will lead you to their story. "


Also the info I have been finding on them seems to lead me to belive they might be Lemurian Seed Crystals as well! At least some E-Bay sellers are listing them as such. I also found an open bid for 100 mixed quartz crystals that have some singing quartz in the batch.Suprisingly no bids yet and the opening bid is only $7.95! Gonna keep my eye on it even though I have 6 pounds coming. Well peace and thanks again!Here is that pic of those Gear TB's.


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[cosmic sage]

Whoops here it is I think.......


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/myfirstorgonite.jpg

[jojo]

Whoops here it is I think.......


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/myfirstorgonite.jpg

wow fantastic stuff! :)

[amercury]

NEW RULE:

NEVER use vaseline as a lubricant for hard plastic.

NEVER do this.

The two HHGs I made and the tower (which is going to go inside the cylinder aquarium) stuck with this horrible sticky substance. My friend is going to use a circular saw to cot them off then we'll pry the plastic off and have to sand the pieces down a bit.


Lordzoma have you used this plastic mold with another type of lubricant?
Just thinking it might be the type of plastic and not the vaseline that made it stick.
I used a cheap plastic mold I bought from the dollar store and it did the same thing. Afterward I looked at the bottom and there was a sticker that said not microwave or dishwasher safe. :o

I stay away from plastic molds now, except ones especially made for casting resin.

[cosmic sage]

O.K. got my shipment today! Gonna make a few trial pieces tomorrow to get the feel. Here is a pic of my crystals I just got. I also ordered some selinite and amthyst today. Thanks lordzoma for the advice! I had planned on the amthyst but the selinite properties seem perfect for orgonite. So here is an explanation of the crystals in the pic starting at the top with the black turmaline and going clockwise.

The black tourmaline is mostly black but has green ends and some mixed reddish and yellows in it.Alot of them have red or pink rubelite centers with green indoclite ends.They are beautiful and very nice.I will list its properties at the end. I really hit the jackpot in my order. I paid $65 for everything you see there including shipping!:):)

Next are an aquamarine, a small piece of amthyst, a piece of fossilized coral ,a raw quartz and an indian arrowhead I am putting in a personal piece.

Then the darker quartzes are Tibetan double terminated ones. Really powerful and beautiful!

Then I have 6 oz. of Double Terminated Singing Quartzs

Then 2 lbs. of "broken" Singing Quartzs- He said they were broken but most are whole, I guess he meant some were Double Terminated and one tip broke off otherwise they are superb! I got all those for less than $10 believe it or not!:)

Then I have a pound of mixed Tumbled Quartz

And 1/2 lb. of Polished Malachite nuggets- I did'nt realize these would be so big, I am going to have to break them :( but malachite properties are ideal for orgonite as is the tourmaline.

And finally in the middle I have 2 Lemurian Seed Crystals for personal pieces!



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Ok here are the properties of the Tourmaline and Malachite:


It is believed by many who live with crystals that certain stones are here for the express purpose of guiding us into new dimensions of being. Although I believe that all crystals can help us in this way, I do have a special appreciation for members of the tourmaline family.

In their natural state tourmalines are characterized by parallel ridges (or striations) which run the length of the crystal. When heated a tourmaline crystal develops opposing electrical charges at opposite ends. I don't recommend doing this, but the phenomenon illustrates the ability of this stone to conduct electricity.

The effect of this energy on us can be very powerful. Tourmaline can help to break up energy blockages which cause stress and confusion, and bring about calmness and clarity.

Tourmaline aids in clarity by helping us to move beyond limited ways of thinking in order to embrace a greatly expanded concept of reality. It teaches us that we are light beings in physical form, and helps us to experience the physical and spiritual worlds as one.

When we experience ourselves as in this way we can have a clear sense of our purpose in existence. Although all forms of tourmaline have the above characteristics, each also has a specific focus according to color. Some of these are described below.

Black Tourmaline (Schorl)

Black tourmaline's particular function is to repel negative energy. This can refer both to external energies or inner emotions, such as anger, resentment, or jealousy. It is a very good stone to carry when you're experiencing any kind of stress.

Green Tourmaline (Verdelite)

Green tourmaline is believed to be a healer on all level. It is used to purify and strengthen the nervous system so that it can circulate increased spiritual energy. Many people use, carry, or wear it to relieve chronic exhaustion.

It is also commonly used for the creation and manifestation of goals, and is believed to be particularly helpful for creativity and abundance.

Pink Tourmaline (Rubellite)

Pink tourmaline (whose actual color ranges from a deep red - hence the name rubellite - to a pale pink) is part of the triad of heart stones which also includes rose quartz and kunzite. Rose quartz nurtures an unconditional love of self. Kunzite focuses that energy and helps the heart to make loving choices. Pink tourmaline expresses that love to others.

Watermelon Tourmaline

This stone is a mixture of green and pink tourmaline, and blends the energies of these two stones, healing the heart of emotional wounds and enabling it to give love. Since it combines the opposite colors of red and green it is also very good for reconciling emotional conflicts.

Though it does'nt say it there I alsoo read Tourmaline blocks out electric and magnetic interferances and radiation!Perfect for Orgonite!
I have elements of all those tourmaline in my batch!


Malachite:


Malachite is an important protection stone. It absorbs negative energies and pollutants, picking them up from the atmosphere and from the body. Guards against radiation and clears electromagnetic pollution. Malachite clears and activates the chakras and attunes to spiritual guidance. It opens the heart to unconditional love. Encourages risk-taking and change, breaks unwanted ties and outworn patterns, and teaches how to take responsibility for one’s actions, thoughts and feelings. Malachite releases inhibitions and develops empathy with others. It alleviates mental disturbances and combats dyslexia. Enables you to absorb and process information. Releases negative experiences and old traumas. Stimulates dreams.

Malachite balances mood swings and heals cramps. It facilitates labor, alleviates menstrual disorders such as PMT and period pains, as well as menopause. Boosts the immune and nervous systems. Malachite lowers blood pressure, treats asthma, arthritis, epilepsy, fractures, swollen joints, growths, travel sickness, vertigo, tumors, the optic nerve, pancreas, spleen and the parathyroid. It aligns DNA and enhances the immune system. Malachite stimulates the liver to release toxins.

[cosmic sage]

Ok I made my first trial batch today! It was fun albeit messy and I used too much hardener, I have a few small cracks but nothing major.Also I thought I had clear resin since the lady at the hardware store said it was but its a light brown.Oh well it still came out nice.Though I am going to go get some clear for my personal pieces as I intend to be creative and want to see it all. I made 3 regular TB's and 1 mini TB. All had a High Quality Double Teminated Tibetan Quartz coiled in copper wire,a piece of black tourmaline,chunks of broken malachite,chunks of blue kyanite,some aluminum,steel,and titanium,small brass safety pins, and some copper coated bb's. The little mini is the same but with a Single Terminated Singing Quartz. I am going to make another small batch tomorrow of 2 HHG's and some more TB's. I am gonna safe the rest of the resin for when I get the Amethyst and Selenite that's on the way. I am hooked! I immeadiately felt the energy radiating from these after popping them out of the mold. I could especially feel it in my Heart Chakra as I put alot of Love into these and charged the crystals. The titanium I believe is a great addition not the mention the Tibetan Quartzs I used. I have a few more questions but I have'nt seen anyone get on here in 2 days so I'll hold them till I see a response.Here is pics from my first batch. Lots Of Love:)


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/001.jpg


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/003.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/004.jpg


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/006.jpg

[biblegirl]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Crystals/Crystals001.jpg


i especially like whatever the group of stones (gray and white) to the middle of the right of the photo! are those quartz??

hey i got some singing crystals too! i was using them for TBs but i think i want to use them in more personal pieces as they really seem to have character, they're sweet little things!! :)

[biblegirl]

Ok I made my first trial batch today! It was fun albeit messy and I used too much hardener, I have a few small cracks but nothing major.Also I thought I had clear resin since the lady at the hardware store said it was but its a light brown.Oh well it still came out nice.Though I am going to go get some clear for my personal pieces as I intend to be creative and want to see it all. I made 3 regular TB's and 1 mini TB. All had a High Quality Double Teminated Tibetan Quartz coiled in copper wire,a piece of black tourmaline,chunks of broken malachite,chunks of blue kyanite,some aluminum,steel,and titanium,small brass safety pins, and soome copper coated bb's. The little mini is the same but with a Single Terminated Singing Quartz. I am going to make another small batch tomorrow of 2 HHG's and some more TB's. I am gonna safe the rest of the resin for when I get the Amethyst and Selenite that's on the way. I am hooked! I immeaddiately felt the energy readiating form these after popping them out of the mold. I could especially feel it in my Heart Chakra as I put alot of Love into these and charged the crystals. The titanium I believe is a great addition not the mention the Tibetan Quartzs I used. I have a few more questions but I have'nt seen anyone get on here in 2 days so I'll hold them till I see a response.Here is pics from my first batch. Lots Of Love:)

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/006.jpg

excellent work, thanks for posting! i thought i had clear resin too, but it turned out to be pinkish-brown, ha ha. the absolute most energy i feel from them is during the curing then popping them out of the molds...those are seriously some intense moments that i love

they look like some powerful pieces, glad they turned out well for your first pour :)

[cosmic sage]

i especially like whatever the group of stones (gray and white) to the middle of the right of the photo! are those quartz??

hey i got some singing crystals too! i was using them for TBs but i think i want to use them in more personal pieces as they really seem to have character, they're sweet little things!! :)

You have a good eye those are the most powerful of the lot, they are Double Terminated Tibetan Quartz of various shades really beautiful and have a strong resonance and energy. Also the Black Tourmaline is exceptional quality most have green ends or centers or pink or purple rubelite centers. I am getting some amethyst and selenite soon also. I am going to put selinite,malachite,and kyanite in every piece I do until I run out of it. I had to crush the malachite nuggets and flake off my chunk of kyanite, I hated to do it but its the only way I could get them in as the pieces were big:(. But the energy is intense in the pieces, so I don't think it lost too much. These are personal TB's for my sister's garden. I plan on getting 5 gallons of resin soon and making a bunch to gift towers and other places around here.

I had a few questions open for anyone:

What are your opinions on adding essential oils to orgonite?

I have seen alot of people put the 5 crystals in HHG's and heard its not necessary also. So is it a hindrance or benifit?

Also has anyone experimented with food coloring or other dyes?
How do they get those amazing consistant even colors?
Are they doing multiple pours?
I really want to play with coloring so any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks!:):);)

[biblegirl]

You have a good eye those are the most powerful of the lot, they are Double Terminated Tibetan Quartz of various shades really beautiful and have a strong resonance and energy. Also the Black Tourmaline is exceptional quality most have green ends or centers or pink or purple rubelite centers. I am getting some amethyst and selenite soon also. I am going to put selinite,malachite,and kyanite in every piece I do until I run out of it. I had to crush the malachite nuggets and flake off my chunk of kyanite, I hated too do it but its the only way I could get them in as the pieces were big:(. But the energy is intense in the pieces, so I don't think it lost too much. This are personal TB's for my sister's garden. I plan on getting 5 gallons of resin soon and making a bunch to gift towers and other places around here.

I had a few questions open for anyone:

What are your opinions on adding essential oils to orgonite?

I have seen alot of people put the 5 crystals in HHG's and heard its not necessary also. So is it a hindrance or benifit?

Also has anyone experimented with food coloring or other dyes?
How do they get those amazing consistant even colors?
Are they doing multiple pours?
I really want to play with coloring so any suggestions would be appreciated.


Thanks!:):);)

hello :)

Did you find the deal for 5 gallons of clear resin for $150ish shipped from Florida??

I haven't added oils yet, but I am considering adding cayenne pepper to some pieces to see what sort of effect I get. I think Jojo may have used oils but I can't remember.

They sell special pigments to add to casting resin in all colors. I used the violet pigment once, and I used the 1% it called for, but it turned out waaaay darker than I intended. I was hoping for a purple tint but it turned out quite dark purple. So I would suggest adding the pigment very slowly until you get the desired shade, especially if you are going for a faint color. I think Lordzoma mentioned wanting to use regular food coloring in some of his recent pieces, but I don't remember if he tried it.

The last few pieces of orgonite I made I double dipped and really liked the results. I have pics to post of those but I need to go to bed now :D.

[lordzoma]

The food coloring worked wonderfully. I can see it working a lot better in clear resin. A little bit does go a long way, but in brown drying resin you really need to dump it in there.

Love your pieces cosmic. When you make copper spirals, instead of doing it with one end terminating in the middle. Fold your wire in two, and wrap it in a circle with the connected part in the middle. that'll give you a spiral where the ends are on the outside.

good deal on the crystals. you definitely got a bargain.

[cosmic sage]

hello :)

Did you find the deal for 5 gallons of clear resin for $150ish shipped from Florida??

I haven't added oils yet, but I am considering adding cayenne pepper to some pieces to see what sort of effect I get. I think Jojo may have used oils but I can't remember.

They sell special pigments to add to casting resin in all colors. I used the violet pigment once, and I used the 1% it called for, but it turned out waaaay darker than I intended. I was hoping for a purple tint but it turned out quite dark purple. So I would suggest adding the pigment very slowly until you get the desired shade, especially if you are going for a faint color. I think Lordzoma mentioned wanting to use regular food coloring in some of his recent pieces, but I don't remember if he tried it.

The last few pieces of orgonite I made I double dipped and really liked the results. I have pics to post of those but I need to go to bed now :D.




No I actually had'nt decided on a supplier.Clear is quite abit more expensive than the brown I tell ya. I saw a post on the warriormatrix forum where somone mentioned West Marine having 5 gallons of resin for sixty some dollars. It must of been a local clearance or something though, their website does'nt offer anything that cheap. I would love a link if you have one for that resin.Yeah cayenne pepper would probably do nicely. I got some suggestions to juice beets and add their juice for reds, I'm a little wary to add fresh juice though. It probably would be fine I guess. I would rather use something like that than artificial food colorings though.I will look into the resin pigments as well. Thanks!:)

[biblegirl]

http://www.uscomposites.com/polyesters.html

Clear resin used primarily in thick castings where a water clear cured product is required. Used extensively in decorative and artistic applications. Catalyst ratio must be varied to account for thickness of cast and temperature. Testing suitability of this product is highly recommended for unusual applications.
**Not for use as a thin coat laminating resin.**

Transparent pigments can be added for desired effects.

Color: Transparent Blue / DRIES Clear
Cat No.
Size
Price
SM-S41025
1 Quart
$13.25
SM-S41100
1 Gallon
34.50
SM-S41500
5 Gallon
140.50
All resin prices include catalyst.
1 Quart= 1oz, 1 Gallon=2oz, 5 Gal=6oz

This is the absolute lowest price I've seen on clear resin especially, the 5 gallon deal even beats prices for the brown resin and stuff. Although I don't know how much shipping and handling is for 5 gallons, sounds like a smoking deal :).

[cosmic sage]

Thanks for the link I called and ordered a gallon from them to start and a sampler of the transparent pigments. I made my second batch today! Had a few issues learning this through trial and error! My HHG's I put too much copper strands in the bottom and the resin did'nt penetrate it all. So the tops came apart the little one is really bad. So I let it set up and mixed a little more resin to try and repair, but alas I did'nt put enough hardener and the stuff is'nt setting up.:( Went from one extreme to the other I also poured 2 more little TB's hope they will set up eventually. I will try and fix the HHG's again tomorrow. I am gonna wait for the clear resin and my amethyst and selenite thats coming before making another batch. Wow this is addictive! I tell you though these are some powerful puppies! I have kyanite,tourmaline, and malachite in every piece I've made so far and the crystals are top notch. The titanium is a big help also I think. Sorry to keep posting so much but I am really enjoying this!So here are my pics of round 2.


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite009.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite015.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite014.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite010.jpg

[cosmic sage]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite021.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite012.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/Orgonite013.jpg

[lordzoma]

I bought a gallon from that website today. I'm gonna try it out. It dries clear so I'll use it in the aquarium and some hhgs.

[lordzoma]

Cosmic - I see you used the technique I suggested in your new spiral! It looks fantastic. Next time you make it, try snipping one of the ends so that one terminates at the top and the other terminates on the bottom to give it a balanced look. It probably doesn't make a difference but I think it looks nicer balanced. Your second batch looks way better than the first. I think you used more metal right! Higher density is better.

I look forward to seeing the pieces you make with the clear resin!

[cosmic sage]

Okay I made my 3rd batch today these are all for gifting towers except the heart and the mini those are for a friend. I should be getting my clear and pigments tomorrow, I am hoping the selenite and amethyst come to we'll see. A guy on warriormatrix dowsed my last batch and here's what I got - The Star is at 52,000 Bovi's,HHG at 85,000 Bovi's,Regular Tb's at 37,000 Bovi's, and the Mini's at about 32,000 Bovi's. He said most TB's run from 11,000 to 25,000 so I guess I did good! But anyway here is my 3rd batch.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/3883123692_551040780d.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3882330395_b15bc1b5b8.jpg

[anthony65]

Okay I made my 3rd batch today these are all for gifting towers except the heart and the mini those are for a friend. I should be getting my clear and pigments tomorrow, I am hoping the selenite and amethyst come to we'll see. A guy on warriormatrix dowsed my last batch and here's what I got - The Star is at 52,000 Bovi's,HHG at 85,000 Bovi's,Regular Tb's at 37,000 Bovi's, and the Mini's at about 32,000 Bovi's. He said most TB's run from 11,000 to 25,000 so I guess I did good! But anyway here is my 3rd batch.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2527/3883123692_551040780d.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3882330395_b15bc1b5b8.jpg


Excellent stuff cosmic sage!

Good to hear that these babies will all be finding suitable homes! :D

[cosmic sage]

Got my clear and pigments today! Everything went great except I have some divet and indentions in the top(bottom of mold) I think its the from a combination of the silicone spray and the metal. I am getting some silicone molds a.s.a.p. But otherwise I love the clear and being able to add color. Here is my 4th batch.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/011.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/019.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/026.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/treyman8106/Orgonite/028.jpg