Is the Gay Agenda, a Zionist Neocon one?

[mo108]

Is the Gay Agenda, a Zionist NeoCon one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNqEt0ciN9w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNqEt0ciN9w

[revolutionary_jam]

zzz

[joe911]

Is the Gay Agenda, a Zionist Neocon one?

No because there is no gay agenda. Its another distraction,divide and rule.

We are not gay/straight/bi/black/white/half-cast/brown haired/red haired/blonde/brunette/tall/short/fat/thin/clever/dumb etc...etc....

WE ARE ALL HUMANS! what people do in thier own homes is nothing to do with anybody else.

[mo108]

what people do in thier own homes is nothing to do with anybody else

[foobar]

The gay agenda, is to be allowed to insert penises, strapons, tongues and fingers into the arses and genitallia of members of the same sex. as many times as possible. Sometimes whilst wearing costumes.

I don't see an immediate relationship with the right wing Israeli-American geopolitical elite's designs for the middle east, but it's possible that I'm not channeling the same octane of spirit guide as you.

[meksar]

The homosexual agenda is a perverse form of idoctrination and loss of freedom of speech, i believe it was not intended for mankind to sodomize each other. The Zionists are clearly bigtime sodomites and love their pink and rainbow parades, men who are homosexual should try living like a man for a week and get some testorome back in thier system. Lesbianism is merely fish mongering and another aspect of the baphomet cult.

[mo108]

I don't see an immediate relationship with the right wing Israeli-American geopolitical elite's designs for the middle east

Watch the video

[joe911]

men who are homosexual should try living like a man for a week and get some testorome back in thier system.

I worked with my dad for the week.FUCK THAT it was exausting,,ill stick to singing/dancing/tv presenting and teaching women how to look good naked" ;)

[killuminati18]

The homosexual agenda is a perverse form of idoctrination and loss of freedom of speech, i believe it was not intended for mankind to sodomize each other. The Zionists are clearly bigtime sodomites and love their pink and rainbow parades, men who are homosexual should try living like a man for a week and get some testorome back in thier system. Lesbianism is merely fish mongering and another aspect of the baphomet cult.



Are you talking seriously?


Im not gay, but if you ARE talkin seriously then...

YOU CAN FUCK YOUR OWN ASS AND SPEAK ABOUT IT.


Shit...what thing i have to read in the supposed "mister i love and freedom forum"...yea right

[meksar]

Are you talking seriously?


Im not gay, but if you ARE talkin seriously then...

YOU CAN FUCK YOUR OWN ASS AND SPEAK ABOUT IT.


Shit...what thing i have to read in the supposed "mister i love and freedom forum"...yea right

You see they have gone too far with this stuff, i can tolerate homosexuality, hell i can even talk and share thoughts with a homosexual at a party etc. However there can be no doubt they are shoving it down peoples throats and even forcing kids to swallow their filth. If Homosexuality/lesbianism manifests to the the level they intend it to, then humanity is fucked.

[bendoon]

what people do in thier own homes is nothing to do with anybody else

Yes but when they do it on TV or in the street it becomes other peoples business wether they like it or not.

I do not want to know what people do in private, so don't tell me about it and don't teach my kids about it in school and don't use my taxes to fund gay organisations and gay pride marches.

[chocolateharpist]

I hope it is as that means that when they take over, everything will be decorated nicely and we'll have showtunes as national anthems

[bard]

I do not believe that any amount of "promoting" or social engineering will change the sexual preferences of a person, unless the system somehow finds a way to mess up the chemical balance of the human organism (delivering hormones of the opposite sex through food and medicine).

But anyway, here is a good blog, where the author goes in some debt on this issue.
Use your own judgment.

http://celticrebel.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/hammer-and-anvil-iv/

[mind1universe]

You see they have gone too far with this stuff, i can tolerate homosexuality, hell i can even talk and share thoughts with a homosexual at a party etc. However there can be no doubt they are shoving it down peoples throats and even forcing kids to swallow their filth. If Homosexuality/lesbianism manifests to the the level they intend it to, then humanity is fucked.


That is the greatest load of shite ive ever heard. Get off the stupid tardness and sheeep view.

In the cosmos outside of this planet. They are multgender, anti gender, asxexual, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgenders, You even have beings that are both genders and can change into the other by shapeshifting. Some species are not even male or female. its pretty much universal and infinite in how species go about thier own existence. The beauty of earth is, we have a wide array of souls incarnating here to be as they want to be.
But to make my point.

In simple terms. It's polarity. Feminine and Masculine. Like ying and yang, black and white. Both are contrast of each other yet need each other. It's how teh universe functions in these dimensions. It's like everything else in life that is polarized. That's if you pay attention.. So it's not as simple and black and white as it looks and neither is humanity.

People have every right to be born the way they are. The wording in your post, invokes bigotry, rudness, apathy, retardness, homophobia, arrogance and lack of understanding of natural existence. Each person walks down the street whether straight or not, have male and feminine components in everyone, some have more of the other and vice versa. Some hide their polairised parts of themselves more, due to society and impalement brought upon them growing up.


You should be also banned for describing homosexuality as flith, I would abominate you from this planet for saying that, And I consider myself to be highly illuminated in power of my position here. Nobody is forcing anything down people's neck. The rule of law if forcing gay people not to have the same rights as straight people. Gay people as much as you seem to have issues with them, are human beings. "they are not just homosexuals over there in a category"

They are fucking human beings. Why do people in 2009 still act so myopic.


Wake the fuck up and learn to think, and open your min The reason why this is now happening because the earth is going through rapid changes in all levels. Meaning balance is been manifesting throught these ever increasing unfolding upheavals prior. The separation of male and female are unionizing

[mo108]

Only the religious are permitted to be critical, I think it is a game plan, encouraged by them. A "You are either for us or against us" "You are either with us or you are not" attitude.

There is a daily bombardment from the MSM, and often the PM in encouraging the acceptance of Gays.

Isn't it possible that some people are co-opted into a gay lifestyle though the combination of peer pressure, legislation, education and the MSM.

The fact that the MSM is pushing it, is the most suspicious.

[joe911]

Yes but when they do it on TV or in the street it becomes other peoples business wether they like it or not.


huh?:confused:
When was the last time you saw 2 guys fucking on tv? [other than maybe a porn channel]

[joe911]

There is a daily bombardment from the MSM, and often the PM in encouraging the acceptance of Gays.

Isn't it possible that some people are co-opted into a gay lifestyle though the combination of peer pressure, legislation, education and the MSM.

The fact that the MSM is pushing it, is the most suspicious.

They are no different from anybody else!

Have you seen star wars? theres a great part in the 1st one where padme says to anakin "are you a slave?" and he replies "no,im a person and my name is anakin" same thing here,the mainstream probably want you to see our differences and accept them as thats who that person is,,well its not!!

And because its mainstream doesnt always make it wrong,,if the msm told you to eat annd drink would you say "well they are pushing it so there must be something to it" :rolleyes:

[bendoon]

You should be also banned for describing homosexuality as flith,

I would abominate you from this planet for saying that



I noticed you calling for another poster to be banned in another thread, have you ever thought it may be you that is a bigot and intolerant.

How dare anyone have a different opinion to mind1universe and be allowed to speak, what a hypocrite.

[mo108]

huh?:confused:
When was the last time you saw 2 guys fucking on tv? [other than maybe a porn channel]

Another person's comment:



I follow sometimes some American series and comedy series, in each of them there has to be at least one gay person, why? Also a few years ago they used to give a general idea that someone is gay in a movie, series, etc. but now they have their own scenes. This is to further the idea that they are a part of everyday life and something we must accept.


http://realisticbird.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/israel-calls-on-ultra-orthodox-jews-to-stop-arab-takeover/#comment-744

[joe911]

Another person's comment:

so,a tv show has a gay guy it? OH MY FUCKING GOD!! WE MUST STOP THIS ATROCITY AT ONCE,,HOW DARE A GAY GUY BE ALLOWED A PART IN A TV SHOW!!

But yet again,my point was ignored,having a gay guy in a tv series isnt them fucking is it?

[yoyoinmyhead]

I am afraid they will divide us in any way possible with whatever means possible.
The way I see it,
Pain is wrong.
Pleasure is right.

That is indisputable logic.

Nothing else is inherently wrong or right.

[astrochicken]

I don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do to each other.

I do have a problem with it being forced on impressionable children in primary school.

I have two small kids, both in primary school, and i don't need & don't want them being told that being gay is perfectly normal.

Face the facts, if it was perfectly normal, then those 2 small kids wouldn't exist.

[mind1universe]

I noticed you calling for another poster to be banned in another thread, have you ever thought it may be you that is a bigot and intolerant.

How dare anyone have a different opinion to mind1universe and be allowed to speak, what a hypocrite.

Yes i pubically questioned his credability. It is not of my opinion. I'm a believer in equality, moralaity, truth and justice. I believe in justice. Stating your opinion is alllowed. but there is also a responsiblity with that There is nothing in my actions that show bigotry, maybe your just ignorant of this fact.


He is allowed to state his opinion, but for insulting homosexuals as filth, is a dergogetory abusive statement that is not acceptable whatsoever.

I still feel he has take to take responsiblity for that.
Have a nice day!:)

[mind1universe]

I don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do to each other.

I do have a problem with it being forced on impressionable children in primary school.

I have two small kids, both in primary school, and i don't need & don't want them being told that being gay is perfectly normal.

Face the facts, if it was perfectly normal, then those 2 small kids wouldn't exist.

What is wrong with your kids, seeng reality? Why cant kids be told been gay is normal. It is normal. It's not been forced. If it's been forced why don't you send them to a "straight school".... This should display just how pathetic your argument is.

If you want to go down that route of whats been forced, why does the American government force their people to go die in Iraq and Afghanistan for satanic wars:rolleyes:

You have personal issues, not the kids and the world in their view of homosexuality. I've never met one man/woman or child have this issue of force.


The system by law, has the responsiblity to make sure all people are accepted into the educational system. It is not been forced down people's neck


Your just been delusional.

[mind1universe]

Face the facts, if it was perfectly normal, then those 2 small kids wouldn't exist.

That is another stupid assertion.:rolleyes:

Before you dig deeper into your own hole.
Answer me this.

Define normal. And whats normal.
Define whats "perfectly normal"

And if homosexulity is not normal, then why does Nature allow it. Stop the bullshit.

[joe911]

Face the facts, if it was perfectly normal, then those 2 small kids wouldn't exist.

Thats because you assume the point to life is reproduction.

[astrochicken]

That is another stupid assertion.:rolleyes:

Before you dig deeper into your own hole.
Answer me this.

Define normal. And whats normal.
Define whats "perfectly normal"

And if homosexulity is not normal, then why does Nature allow it. Stop the bullshit.

@ mind1universe

1. learn how to spell
2. ask for me to be banned.

That's it really.
Consider yourself invisible as i know exactly where you like to take each thread.


@ joe

No, i don't think reproduction is the meaning of life.

Nevertheless though, i'm here and so are you.. and neither of us had gay parents. I really don't care what anyone gets up to, but i do have a problem with sex education, in general, and especially the "gay agenda" (which you really can't deny exists) being forced upon kids in primary school.

For me, it ties in to other things, such as the fluoridation of water which fuck around with the enzymes creating neurotransmitter such as serotonin which, whether balanced or imbalanced, result in a faster onset of puberty.


I just don't agree with the whole sexualization of kids. Period.
Let them be kids as long as THEY want.

[joe911]

but i do have a problem with sex education, in general, and especially the "gay agenda" (which you really can't deny exists) being forced upon kids in primary school.


I agree with you about sex education,my 7 year old sister has just started it,,and shes 7!! Teaching sex to kids in school is wrong,regardless of if they are teaching hetro sex or gay sex.Period.

[charas]

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You should be also banned for describing homosexuality as flith, i would abominate you from this planet for saying that...



lmfao :D

[mo108]

I imagine there is less homosexuality in an orthodox religious community than in secular society,

If this is true, what does it make of the argument that religion is a choice and being gay is not.

I also think some people are co-opted into a Gay lifestyle through peer pressure, legislation, MSM and education.

I think the religious are at the top of society, fundamentally they believe an individual's free will is the deciding factor in their kharma. And they insure we are waylaid with hedonism, from alcohol to all the rest.

[mind1universe]

@ mind1universe

1. learn how to spell
2. ask for me to be banned.

That's it really.
Consider yourself invisible as i know exactly where you like to take each thread.

You prove to have so much underlying issues.



[/quote]
@ joe

No, i don't think reproduction is the meaning of life. [/quote] Well this is what you clarified as normal, life is man and woman reproducing and nothing else.

You defined this is as the only norms of life. So everything else isn't normal.



Nevertheless though, i'm here and so are you.. and neither of us had gay parents. I really don't care what anyone gets up to, but i do have a problem with sex education, in general, and especially the "gay agenda" (which you really can't deny exists) being forced upon kids in primary school.

The gay agenda. What kind of cack do you feed off of. What exactly does this gay agenda set out to do. Explain in clarity without the bullshit what you mean by this. Thanks in advanced.
They are not forced. If you don't like the curilculumm, take your kids out of school. It's your choice. Stop blaming the world for your idiotic conformed attitudes.


[/quote]
I just don't agree with the whole sexualization of kids. Period.
Let them be kids as long as THEY want.[/QUOTE]

Get over it.

[mo108]

The gay agenda. What kind of cack do you feed off of. What exactly does this gay agenda set out to do. Explain in clarity without the bullshit what you mean by this. Thanks in advanced.



It means "in everyday reality" that people should be liked and respected because of their sexual preference.

[bendoon]

The gay agenda. What kind of cack do you feed off of. What exactly does this gay agenda set out to do. Explain in clarity without the bullshit what you mean by this. Thanks in advanced.
They are not forced. If you don't like the curilculumm, take your kids out of school. It's your choice. Stop blaming the world for your idiotic conformed attitudes.


Read up on the Frankfurt Institute and Cultural Marxism, can't be arsed to explain it to you, but I think you could understand it if you tried.

Common Purpose works on the Frankfurt model and they promote the gay agenda along with sex ed for small children.

[mind1universe]

Read up on the Frankfurt Institute and Cultural Marxism, can't be arsed to explain it to you, but I think you could understand it if you tried.

Common Purpose works on the Frankfurt model and they promote the gay agenda along with sex ed for small children.


What wrong with telling kids the REALITY here.

A man has penis.

A woman has a vagina.

Men like woman
Woman like men.
Some woman like both
Some men like both
Some women like women
Some men like men.

Stop the bullshit and stopping hitting more into the fan.

[mind1universe]

It means "in everyday reality" that people should be liked and respected because of their sexual preference.

Nope.

It means that people should be accepted and respected for thier sexual preferences.

In other words. If I like to have a blue car, I'm in my right to have it. If people protest it. My agenda going forward is to let the world no. tHis is me and this is what I want.

It's funny that even on David Ickes forum, people are still brainwashed and stuck in the matrix................:rolleyes:

[mo108]

It means that people should be accepted and respected for thier sexual preferences.


By that logic heterosexuals should be respected because they are hetero

People walking around demanding respect because they have a same sex attraction, are likely degrading any potential mutual development

[bendoon]

What wrong with telling kids the REALITY here.

A man has penis.

A woman has a vagina.

Men like woman
Woman like men.
Some woman like both
Some men like both
Some women like women
Some men like men.

Stop the bullshit and stopping hitting more into the fan.

So you are so self important that you have the right to push your views on other parents children ? you sound like a typical Nu Labour rising star, an Ed Milliband clone.

[mind1universe]

So you are so self important that you have the right to push your views on other parents children ? you sound like a typical Nu Labour rising star, an Ed Milliband clone.

Bendoon I'm stating common sense. I never directed attention to the "self"

Your the typical judgmental human being I see who is still lost.
Think self judgment before you judge others.

I didn't push my views on any parent.:) You need to go and back up your flawed accusations. Looking forward to this.

[mind1universe]

By that logic heterosexuals should be respected because they are hetero

People walking around demanding respect because they have a same sex attraction, are likely degrading any potential mutual development


Heterosexuality is accepted.

Homosexuality is not.


There is a difference? Are you blind? They are not demanding respect, they have their right to respect. Hope this clarity hit's you somewhere.

[killdec]

I recommend the book "Cruel Hoax- Feminism and the New World Order".

It explains how people are manipulated by "role reversal" via the MSM to take power from individuals; males and females alike and to destroy families (which messes up the next generation of children a little more [the problem], so they submit psychoactive medicine to children as the solution).

It is of course another divide and conquer technique used by the "elite", like the whole idea of "liberal" or "conservative" media. I don't care if you're gay or not: you have the right to do whatever you want with yourself and I'm not going to judge you either way.

[bendoon]

Your the typical judgmental human being I see who is still lost.
Think self judgment before you judge others..

I aren't judging anyone, I just don't want some Common Purpose graduates frazzling other peoples brains especially children, let them keep their crackpot ideas to their own kids.

[adbasque]

That is the greatest load of shite ive ever heard. Get off the stupid tardness and sheeep view.

In the cosmos outside of this planet. They are multgender, anti gender, asxexual, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgenders, You even have beings that are both genders and can change into the other by shapeshifting. Some species are not even male or female. its pretty much universal and infinite in how species go about thier own existence. The beauty of earth is, we have a wide array of souls incarnating here to be as they want to be.
But to make my point.

You keep talking about these other beings as if you had tea with them last week, what on earth are you talking about, theories that's all, man's imagination you are turning it into reality and facts.

No proof no evidence whatsoever of another existence in the cosmos, can you come back to earth please?

No f**** aliens none, nobody ever saw aliens and if anybody claims to have seen them or met he is a f**** liar.

You call people sheep and you're going on about the wildest things, in the world try and discover and learn more about this race of ours, if and it's a big huge if, it turns our there is another race, then we can talk about it.

Until then I stick to this planet.

Remember nobody ever proved about another existence and we are not close in proving it either.

so back to earth if you don't mind.
Thanks

[adbasque]

What wrong with telling kids the REALITY here.

A man has penis.

A woman has a vagina.

Men like woman
Woman like men.
Some woman like both
Some men like both
Some women like women
Some men like men.

Stop the bullshit and stopping hitting more into the fan.

If it's normal to you then why don't you fuck your partner in front of you kids if you have any?
It's nothing. it's love and teach them at younger age, even better, why don't you invite two homosexuals let them have it and your kids will learn even quickly.

It's natural so people who live in hot countries they just remove their clothes too, and walk naked, why bother it will save them a lot of money no need for clothes, we all know what we look like, so why wear anything. it's natural it's normal everthing goes where is the problem?

Sometimes I wonder if you talk from your backside, everyone here is wrong except you, you seem to know everything, you call yourself elightened but the joke is right in your face and yet you can't see it.

Yes there's an agenda about homosexuality that exploded in the last 30 years, it started gradually now it's in our faces all day long

I don't want any sex taught to my children, they are fucking kids
before we know it paedophilia will be forced down our throats too, it will you know why?>?? because a lot of idiots said this about homosexuality years ago, now he we have it, paedophilia has started in some countries.

If anyone here needs to wake the fuck up is you.

Enough of your bullshit!!

What two adults do in their private lives it's their business but I don't want it in my face
that's all

[joe911]

If it's normal to you then why don't you fuck your partner in front of you kids if you have any?


Because its about love,not sex.

[cruise4]

Is the Gay Agenda the 'Solution' to a 'Reaction' and what was the 'Problem' and who created it, how and why.

That's more to the heart of the issue I reckon.

Thalidomide produced horribly disfigured babies. The issue was what caused it. I am of the opinion that this is currently uknown regarding homosexuality albeit many claim otherwise.

This question requires thinking about the possibility of causation other than natural. Not a popular concept at all but I believe a valid one nevertheless.

One associated thought concerns 'sins'. Generally considered a moral issue, but alternatively could be an energetic issue related to accomplishing something. Metaphorically... I am quite free to put square wheels on my car, but until I use round ones it doesn't actually go very far. Morality is nothing to do with it in this sense.

Personally I have zero axe to grind. But these are definitely valid questions and references to the animal kingdom which exists in the same environment as the rest of us are seemingly irrevelant.

There again tptb could be just taking advantage of a presented opportunity to run in parallel with their depopulation agenda. I doubt that very very much.

Of course there is nothing like a sexual issue to get to the heart of the individual and passions run high, more's the pity.

[adbasque]

Heterosexuality is accepted.

Homosexuality is not.


There is a difference? Are you blind? They are not demanding respect, they have their right to respect. Hope this clarity hit's you somewhere.


This is long gone, what is it they are demanding?
what rights?

I didn't see a homosexual stripped of his/her rights, so what do they want?

In some cases homosexuals have been given privileges just because they are homosexuals and not to the heterosexual
what is it they want?
don't give me that horseshit "Their rights" give me an example

[adbasque]

Because its about love,not sex.

No sorry joe it's not about love, it's about sex, it is sex,

They can bullshit others but their agenda is to pervert the old and new generations to screw society.

I strongly disagree on this one.

I saw coming from bradford years and years ago
the people behind it have no love, they use the word love to spread whatever they want.

You know during the vietnam war, some ass*** said we have to do evil in order to do good.

always excuses to expand their agenda
as I said I don't care what two adults or a group of adults are doing between them, but I care when it's public, because I live in that society too, who respects my rights?

[adbasque]

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
June 19, 2008

Last week California legalized gay marriage. Why do you suppose the bankers wanted to
placate the minuscule per cent of the population who are marriage-minded gays so badly
that they are willing to redefine the central life ritual of 96% of the population who
are heterosexual? Marriage is mostly about having children. It's like saying Muslims
have an "equal right" to celebrate Passover.

The bankers want heterosexuals to suffer from the same gender confusion as homosexuals
do, which makes it impossible to bond with the opposite sex. As result, the vast
majority of people will substitute promiscuity for love, marriage and family. Eventually
the State will take over reproduction and indoctrination of the young. Here is an
article I wrote in Nov. 2001 which tears the veil from the "homosexual lifestyle" they
pretend is so attractive.


Imagine that an organism is sick. Imagine that the sick cells convince the organism that
they were healthy, and in fact, the healthy cells are sick. The gullible organism would
just get sicker and sicker.

This is the relationship between society and homosexuals today. Gays argue that same-sex
behavior is no different than being left-handed. On the other hand, they say
heterosexual behavior is not natural, but socially conditioned and "oppressive."
Heterosexual society and family are taking heavy casualties. Our stupid, opportunistic
and craven leaders have betrayed us. We don't even know we are at war.

Let's decide whom, in fact, is sick.

Let's look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen
Ph.D., authors of "After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays
in the 90's"(1989).

In Chapter Six, they outline "ten categories of misbehavior," drawn from their own
experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other
gays. Their contention is that the male gay lifestyle, (not gay sexuality mind you), "is
the pits." They want gays to improve their image by addressing "what is wrong with a lot
of gays." (276)

What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another
human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself.
Ask yourself if we haven't caught this disease, or at least the sniffles.

* The authors say "a surprisingly high percentage" of pathological liars and con
men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a
stubborn self-deception about one's own gayness and its implication.
* They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay
morality boils down to "I can do whatever I want and you can go to perdition. (If it
feels good, I'll do it!)" If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend's lover, he'll
do it, justifying it as an act of "sexual freedom" and the friend be damned.
* They say gays suffer from a "narcissistic" personality disorder and give this
clinical description: "pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and
admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in
fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous,
exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over
idealization and devaluation."
* As an example of this narcissism, the authors say "a very sizable proportion of
gay men" who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.
* They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They
must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and
includes such "forbidden" aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and
coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.
* They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay
harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males,
including children.
* Many gays are "single minded sexual predators" fixated on youth and physical
beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are "the real queer bashers."
Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.
* "Relationships between gay men don't usually last very long." They quickly tire
of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The "cheating ratio of 'married' gay
males, given enough time, approaches 100%."
* Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive
gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.
* The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking,
paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.


Is there any doubt that this behavior is sick? Obviously this is not true of all
homosexuals. I feel no malice toward gays. I feel the same way about people who have the
flu. I want them to get better and I don't want it to spread.

Unfortunately, even the authors of this book are deceiving themselves. They claim that
it is the gay lifestyle and NOT gay sexuality that is "the pits." Who are they kidding?
The two are inseparable.

The authors of this book are public relations experts who believe that "our problem is
fundamentally one of bad image with straights."

The book details "a comprehensive public-relations campaign that should go a long way
towards sanitizing our very unsanitary image:"

"Desensitization": flooding straight America with advertising presenting gays in the
"least offensive manner possible."

"Jamming": Advertising that equates fear of gays with hatred of Jews, Blacks and women.

"Conversion": Presenting images of gays that look like regular folks. "The image must be
the icon of normality."

They say "it makes no difference that the ads are lies" because "we are using them
to...counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies."

This book was written in 1989 and obviously a campaign similar to this has taken effect.
Read what the authors say about it:

"By Conversion, we mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of
Life [than subversion] ...We mean conversion of the average American's emotions, mind,
and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the
nation via the media. We mean...to turn their hatred into warm regard whether they like
it or not." (153)

Thus gays want Americans to learn that something they naturally and justifiably regard
as sick, is in fact healthy. Thus Americans will be defenseless to resist their
overtures whether in parks, barracks, bathrooms or classrooms.

It is a measure of the authors' cynicism and self-deception that THEY quote psychologist
M. Scott Peck, who in "People of the Lie" characterizes people who suffer from extreme
or "malignant" narcissism simply as "evil."

Evil people, Peck says, have "an unshakable will to be right and will not consider the
possibility that they are wrong...Their main weapon, interestingly enough is the lie
with which they distort reality to look good to themselves, and to confuse others."
(297)

The publicity surrounding gay marriage doesn't reflect the reality. Gays don't want to
marry. In Canada, gay marriage has been legal for more than a year yet only one in one
<http://www.savethemales.ca/few_gays_opt_to_marry.html> thousand marriages are
homosexual. Gays and lesbians make up about 40 out of 1000 population.

Gay marriage is really designed to make heterosexuals see homosexual behavior as the new
normal. They could have designated a separate but equal status for the homosexuals who
want marriage.

Gays can continue to fool themselves. But let us stop. Their behavior is sick. And it's
contagious.

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Gay Marriage Nationwide in US

Comments for "Is this Gay Behavior Sick?"

Paul said (June 21, 2008):

I don't get it Henry. Where were you going with this article? It started well, but by
the end I read it as an attack on all of us, based on a distaste for those who adopt
certain aspects of lifestyle, which I personally don't like and have never been into. I
felt like you threw out a huge generalization and passed judgement on all of us as
though we are some generic bunch who all act and think the same.

I support most of what you say here, especially about the "normalizing" of the "Gay"
lifestyle. There are people calling themselves "Gay" who I'm sure wouldn't if it wasn't
being made so easy to do so...as in copping out and accepting irresponsibility. That
bothers me, and it damages society ultimately, but equating "Gays" (I actually hate that
word you know) with people with the flu?? Fair go! That's your opinion I suppose but its
a gross oversimplification of human sexuality. That's where you lost me.

It just isn't that simple and you just get sick of people saying that sort of thing when
they have no idea what its like. If its your opinion then...OK, I'm not about to change
it. Be that all as it may, you haven't lost me as a reader. I like your stuff as a rule
and I've learnt a lot from your writing in the past.

More Here (http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/a96ee610fb614cbf)


Henry

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John said (June 21, 2008):

Well, yes. But look at it from the viewpoint of the promoters of "the gay life style".
Recall that a prime goal of the moneyed elite is to reduce world population to 500
million and keep it there for the long term viability of human civilization. 2 people of
the same gender can't reproduce. So to prevent the birth of a human baby is preferable
than to have it born and die later by starvation or violence.

I guess what I'm trying to say they wish to preserve their dominance (and non renewable
mineral wealth) in the most cost efficient way possible. It's easier and less expensive
to control 500 million than it is 7 billion.

[yoyoinmyhead]

If all we care about is reproducing and protecting our own kind then we are as bad as them.

Lets all decide our own paths, that is surely the most natural way.

[cruise4]

Lets all decide our own paths, that is surely the most natural way.

Yeah sure... unfortunately the conspiracy shows that this is definitely not occurring. Manipulation is everywhere and insidious. Everything must be examined. If an area shows resistance to investigation it's suspect. If there's one thing that's becoming patently obvious it's that we don't decide our own paths... that's the problem.

[mo108]

Heterosexuality is accepted.

Homosexuality is not.


There is a difference? Are you blind? They are not demanding respect, they have their right to respect. Hope this clarity hit's you somewhere.

What this means "on the street" is the equivalent to being approached by a Black Man, or a Pakistani, or a Jew and they are stating they have the "right" to be respected.

And in fact they are Demanding respect.

It develops a Hubris

And there are some masterful Gay criminals practicing duplicity as all criminals do, and they are gleefully targeting Muslims.

[mind1universe]

]I aren't judging anyone[/B], I just don't want some Common Purpose graduates frazzling other peoples brains especially children, let them keep their crackpot ideas to their own kids.


"I aren't judging anyone"
"i just don't want some Common purpose graduates frazzling other people's kids."


Your judging again and running your own mouth,. Self judgment. Self awareness.

Pat attention to your own issues. Your obviously embarrassingly unaware of it. No surprise there.

[mind1universe]

What this means "on the street" is the equivalent to being approached by a Black Man, or a Pakistani, or a Jew and they are stating they have the "right" to be respected.

And in fact they are Demanding respect.

It develops a Hubris

And there are some masterful Gay criminals practicing duplicity as all criminals do, and they are gleefully targeting Muslims.


Stop the bullshit.

It not about crime, and other such crap.

It's about homosexuals been accepted, allowed to be free in society. Allowed to marry, allowed to adopt. Allowed to go to the hospital to see thier loved ones and by law be their partner in writing.

This is what they are asking for its not about crime and other such bullshit.

[mind1universe]

You keep talking about these other beings as if you had tea with them last week, what on earth are you talking about, theories that's all, man's imagination you are turning it into reality and facts.

No proof no evidence whatsoever of another existence in the cosmos, can you come back to earth please?

No f**** aliens none, nobody ever saw aliens and if anybody claims to have seen them or met he is a f**** liar.

Wake up. I'm on earth, and I can leave earth anytime I wish. I've broken the bounds of this society and matrix.

Your just angry you can't break free from the system.


You call people sheep and you're going on about the wildest things, in the world try and discover and learn more about this race of ours, if and it's a big huge if, it turns our there is another race, then we can talk about it.

Until then I stick to this planet.

Remember nobody ever proved about another existence and we are not close in proving it either.

so back to earth if you don't mind.
Thanks

Wtf are you bitching about?

There is proof you have not woken up to that fact.

[mind1universe]

No sorry joe it's not about love, it's about sex, it is sex,

They can bullshit others but their agenda is to pervert the old and new generations to screw society.

I strongly disagree on this one.

I saw coming from bradford years and years ago
the people behind it have no love, they use the word love to spread whatever they want.

You know during the vietnam war, some ass*** said we have to do evil in order to do good.

always excuses to expand their agenda


No its about love, that is ignorant what you said gay people have been having sex since the crack of dawn like heterosexuals.

They want love and acceptance in society like Heterosexual couples. They want to be allowed express their love to their partners.

Stop been so full of apathy and ignorance. You don't know how everyone feels. You don't know that everyone is on it for sex.


as I said I don't care what two adults or a group of adults are doing between them, but I care when it's public, because I live in that society too, who respects my rights?

What are you moaning about your rights here ffs.

THey are not allowed marry, everyone else is regardless of race. You don't have to like it. You dont have to listen to it. You don't have to pay attention to it.

But they have that right to speak out and defend their corner. Your rights is not been affected.


Your just been childish.

[mo108]

Stop the bullshit.

It not about crime, and other such crap.

It's about homosexuals been accepted, allowed to be free in society. Allowed to marry, allowed to adopt. Allowed to go to the hospital to see thier loved ones and by law be their partner in writing.

This is what they are asking for its not about crime and other such bullshit.

When one looks at the scale of the MSM and governmental campaigns, is it not possible that there is indeed a mafia behind it all?

Only common sense is required to consider why 3% of the population is dictating a huge agenda.

[mind1universe]

Well I've said it before.

Society is the problem and sheep follow it. If you don't like it DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. stop fucking whineging.

Wake up
Turn off the T.V
Turn off the radio
Turn off the leaders


Face yourself, lead yourself, respect yourself, forgive yourself, and take responsbility for your own life. And stop blaming others.


What people do in their own lives is their business, if you try stop them, prepare for people speaking out for their rights on this planet.


Fuck the society it "affects me boo hoo"

There is no on this thread actually has woken up. None of you are free and very few of you have a single ounce capacity to think outside society.

[adbasque]

Wake up. I'm on earth, and I can leave earth anytime I wish. I've broken the bounds of this society and matrix.

Your just angry you can't break free from the system.



Wtf are you bitching about?

There is proof you have not woken up to that fact.

You're really sad, you woke up to a loads of bull my friend.
Why would I be angry if I don't know what to break free from?
you're contradicting yourself and you talk a lot of nonsense and loads of crap, you try and impress with loads of bullshit, except people are not buying your nonsense.
When you talk try and use some facts, some reality, so far you haven't yet.

where is it?
where is this proof?

[adbasque]

No its about love, that is ignorant what you said gay people have been having sex since the crack of dawn like heterosexuals.

They want love and acceptance in society like Heterosexual couples. They want to be allowed express their love to their partners.

Stop been so full of apathy and ignorance. You don't know how everyone feels. You don't know that everyone is on it for sex.




What are you moaning about your rights here ffs.

THey are not allowed marry, everyone else is regardless of race. You don't have to like it. You dont have to listen to it. You don't have to pay attention to it.

But they have that right to speak out and defend their corner. Your rights is not been affected.


Your just been childish.

Your arguments are always based on a personal attack, because you cannot convince anyone with your ridiculous arguments, so you take it on the person.

You treat people as idiots
as bigots
as children
as ignorants
as asleep
while in fact you're the one with all of the above mentioned qualities.

I can pull any of your posts and replies, all you do is attack people who disagree with you, on any topic and thread.
You cannot debate convincingly and that's why you're constantly angry and attacking people, trying to intimidate others with your old bullshit.

Well I got news for you, don't try this with me, everytime I asked you something you could not prove anything, twice I asked to prove two things that you keep ranting about, you ignored it, because you can't prove shit!!

Now keep ranting and insulting people.

[mind1universe]

You're really sad, you woke up to a loads of bull my friend.
Why would I be angry if I don't know what to break free from?
you're contradicting yourself and you talk a lot of nonsense and loads of crap, you try and impress with loads of bullshit, except people are not buying your nonsense.
When you talk try and use some facts, some reality, so far you haven't yet.

where is it?
where is this proof?

:rolleyes:

You remind me of someone who points fingers like the hypocrites. You point people to fill the jigsaw with one piece.

But you cannot put the pieces together.

Wake up. I'm not here to impress you, him, she, or them.

[mind1universe]

Your arguments are always based on a personal attack, because you cannot convince anyone with your ridiculous arguments, so you take it on the person.

You treat people as idiots
as bigots
as children
as ignorants
as asleep
while in fact you're the one with all of the above mentioned qualities.

I can pull any of your posts and replies, all you do is attack people who disagree with you, on any topic and thread.
You cannot debate convincingly and that's why you're constantly angry and attacking people, trying to intimidate others with your old bullshit.

Well I got news for you, don't try this with me, everytime I asked you something you could not prove anything, twice I asked to prove two things that you keep ranting about, you ignored it, because you can't prove shit!!

Now keep ranting and insulting people.


Treat people like they like to be treated,

And you will get the level of respect required.


Remember I said it already. Be self aware and stop projecting judgments.
Twice I said this I suggest you re read your own posts and take your own advice.:)

[mind1universe]

It's not my responsiblity or job to prove existence to you

You came here as you to be you. If you can't see that, no one else can prove anything to you.

I will not take your hand and make you see.

[adbasque]

Treat people like they like to be treated,

And you will get the level of respect required.


Remember I said it already. Be self aware and stop projecting judgments.
Twice I said this I suggest you re read your own posts and take your own advice.:)

Yes you should tell that to yourself
I don't have to re-read my own posts, I know what I said when I said it, guess what, I am not going down that route into your level of childish

attacks, you always attack the person when you know and I know you have no arguments to substantiate any of your claims, no evidence, no proof, everytime I asked you to prove something you either change the subject or go back to your traditional way of "debating" on the attack to divert the person away from the original idea of challenging you.


Think about that :)

[adbasque]

It's not my responsiblity or job to prove existence to you

You came here as you to be you. If you can't see that, no one else can prove anything to you.

I will not take your hand and make you see.

Came here, where exactly?
FYI I did not come here to see anything, most things I read here I already knew them years ago, my being here is to share and maybe learn new things from others, certainly not you, I don't think I could learn anything from you, no offense but you seem to be going around in circle you can type pages without saying anything.

The reason you're saying

I quote you
It's not my responsiblity or job to prove existence to you

Is because you can't prove a thing, because there's nothing there to prove, you can't prove something that doesn't exist.

You're trying to bluff your way and impress with your fictional level of intelligence and awarness, while in fact it's a loads of *******

:)

Take care

[nayan]

Is the Gay Agenda, a Zionist Neocon one?

No because there is no gay agenda. Its another distraction,divide and rule.

We are not gay/straight/bi/black/white/half-cast/brown haired/red haired/blonde/brunette/tall/short/fat/thin/clever/dumb etc...etc....

WE ARE ALL HUMANS! what people do in thier own homes is nothing to do with anybody else.

Well said mate.

[mind1universe]

At least we have the above poster who understands.

[mind1universe]

Came here, where exactly?
FYI I did not come here to see anything, most things I read here I already knew them years ago, my being here is to share and maybe learn new things from others, certainly not you, I don't think I could learn anything from you, no offense but you seem to be going around in circle you can type pages without saying anything.

The reason you're saying

I quote you


Is because you can't prove a thing, because there's nothing there to prove, you can't prove something that doesn't exist.

You're trying to bluff your way and impress with your fictional level of intelligence and awarness, while in fact it's a loads of *******

:)

Take care

Adbasque I will let you argue yourself at this rate. all the best:)

[adbasque]

:rolleyes:

You remind me of someone who points fingers like the hypocrites. You point people to fill the jigsaw with one piece.

But you cannot put the pieces together.

Wake up. I'm not here to impress you, him, she, or them.

Nevermind who I am or I remind you of
just answer my question please.

Show me some evidence, some proof, if not we better stop here.
I don't really care why you're here for, to impress or just to talk for the sake of it, it's none of my business, we found ourselves in endless loop.

I aksed you a simple question to give me some proof or your argument is worth a peanut, that's all.

Nevermind who I am, what I am it's all irrelevant just answer my question please.
Thanks

[killerzzs]

it is without doubt that the gay cause is being rammed down our throats in mainstream culture and conservative traditional values are taking an absolute hammering, the zionists clearly see the strong unity and values as a threat so will promote anything to destroy them.


now dont get me wrong, what consenting adults do between closed doors is their business, but thats not to say it should be forced on to us through psy-ops and mainstream culture

anything that breaks up family values is something the nwo will promote, this incudes brainwashing young girls aswell - it suits them to see weak, directionless and scattered people with no values

and if you need proof of gay values being forced upon everyone then look out for stories where western govt. will use the treatment of gays as a political weapon

i.e. start promoting homosexuality or face the consequences/

[foobar]

Watch the video

Yes. It's nuts. President Bush and Dick Cheney did not invade Iraq with queering the place up being their main aim. That's absurd.

[mind1universe]

Nevermind who I am or I remind you of
just answer my question please.

Show me some evidence, some proof, if not we better stop here.
I don't really care why you're here for, to impress or just to talk for the sake of it, it's none of my business, we found ourselves in endless loop.

I aksed you a simple question to give me some proof or your argument is worth a peanut, that's all.

Nevermind who I am, what I am it's all irrelevant just answer my question please.
Thanks


Think outside of this world and maybe proof will be revealed. You have not awakened so its not your time yet.

As I said, I will let you argue this old rant, whos right whos wrong whos the best and who isn't. Its all programming.

You my friend are the art of this programming. De program yourself and you will realise.


Think awarnesss. I've helped you the way, I cannot show you the way:) Nor will I either.

[adbasque]

it is without doubt that the gay cause is being rammed down our throats in mainstream culture and conservative traditional values are taking an absolute hammering, the zionists clearly see the strong unity and values as a threat so will promote anything to destroy them.

Indeed
Just like any of the other hundred programmes they've introduced and people without realising it became part of the society, like the feminist movement, which wasn't necessary but it was introduced to break families, to have more control on us and especially our kids and the coming generations.

They always always always grow their own agenda within the society and have us police each other, yes the PTB are all known to perform homsexual orgies, and pederasty, and human sacrifices, it's been covered a million times and from various sources.

And we don't really need to seek any evidence we bloody live it day in day out constantly forced down our throats.
What people don't get this has nothing to do with the average homosexual, what are talking about the agenda behind it.

I honestly don't care what two or 10 people do in their privacy, it's even insane to condemn it, but when it becomes public, then it becomes my problem, that doesn't mean I have to insult, beat, disrespect, a homosexual, No.
But don't ram it down my throat and I have rights to choose what to teach my child.



now dont get me wrong, what consenting adults do between closed doors is their business, but thats not to say it should be forced on to us through psy-ops and mainstream culture

Exactly, they keep moaning about their rights, what about our rights?
The truth is there are a lot of homosexuals who would disagree with the way homosexuality is being promoted and forced up on the society.
They never participate in all this crap gay parades and they'd love to keep their private lives private.


anything that breaks up family values is something the nwo will promote, this incudes brainwashing young girls aswell - it suits them to see weak, directionless and scattered people with no values

If in doubt, when you see something has been repeated over and over and over and constantly in your face, you know it's their agenda or plan.


and if you need proof of gay values being forced upon everyone then look out for stories where western govt. will use the treatment of gays as a political weapon

Yes and it has exploded in the last 30 years or so, that doesn't mean homosexuality didn't exist before, homosexuality existed for thousands of years, but the difference now, it's being promoted, it's being forced with laws and regulations upon the rest of us.

They made certain if you dare criticise it, you will be persecuted, you can lose your job, you will be bullied by members of society, because you speak out your mind, so much of freedom of speech, No we are not being bigots, where we incite any kind of violence or exclude homosexuals from society, that's not the argument, the argument is purely about the hidden agenda, just like FEMINISM, that doesn't mean we are against women, because it has nothing to do with hating or loving women, just like Speaking against Israel they call you an anti-semite.

Until recently that people started to realise, hey hang on a minute Israel and the Jews are two totally different things.
They apply the same technique across the board in our society and if people are dumb enough not to see

i.e. start promoting homosexuality or face the consequences/

That's exactly what it is, and before we know it, the nwo will be promoting and then forcing paedophilia, and it will bloody become acceptable in society.

I know a lot of people would think now it's absurd, but when it happens, you will remember this, by then it will bleeding be too late to do anything about it.

They will come up, with love to children, even fabricate scientific evidence to push their agenda, by the way if you think I am being paranoid, it has already started in some countries :)

I am not saying homosexuals are paedophiles, I am pointing out, how easy it is for them to introduce any agenda into society and make it even look like it came from the society itself, by first removing the osbtacles and then push it through.

I also know that most paedophiles are heterosexuals, but this is not the point I am making, it's the agenda behind a homosexual, and I am sure that it's a small minority of homosexuals who are willingly or unwillingly pushing this agenda on behalf of the PTB

Cloder To Home than you think (http://thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=384)

Am I paranoid?

Read This then (http://www.tpuc.org/node/151)


German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed Micheal O'Brien, author on crisis of culture in West, says this "German state intervention in family life is a new level of auto-destruction"

By John-Henry Westen



BERLIN, July 30, 2007(LifeSiteNews.com) - Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

Canadian author and public speaker Michael O'Brien who has written and spoken extensively about the crisis of culture in the West spoke to LifeSiteNews.com about the shocking and extremely disturbing phenomenon. It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order.

Click here to read the full report (http://www.tpuc.org/node/151)

[adbasque]

Think outside of this world and maybe proof will be revealed. You have not awakened so its not your time yet.

Oh really, I didn't think outside this world, yes that's it, I don't know who you're talking to, but it only confirms what I said you are so full of yourself, you talk down to people, you are not debating facts, you promoting yourself as being somewhere up there and the rest of us way down there.


As I said, I will let you argue this old rant, whos right whos wrong whos the best and who isn't. Its all programming.
You're the one arguing the old rant, I asked you to provide proof, you keep attacking me, how stupid I am and how intelligent and elevated spirit, that you're somewhere up there.

In reality you're nothing but a lost soul, I have my feet firm on the ground.

I know what's up there before you even heard of it.



You my friend are the art of this programming. De program yourself and you will realise.

One thing I am not is being programmed.



Think awarnesss. I've helped you the way, I cannot show you the way:) Nor will I either.

When did you hear about awarness? since you came to DI forum, awarness has many levels, everyone is aware, but aware of what exactly is a different story.

Don't pull this bullshit of awarness on me, people have been aware for generations or decades, it's the people who just opened their eyes, that keep repeating it, as if to impress others.

Yes you try and impress
You try and intimidate
You cannot debate
You are evasive
You try and present yourself rather than to stick to the argument
everything you talk about is abstract in a hope to impress some deluded people, well I am not one of them, you want to impress the hell out of me?
Provide me with evidence to back your claims, otherwise you're **** in the sand :)

Now, this debate is closed.

Keep your promotion going.

Good luck too :D

[mind1universe]

Adbasque i told you could argue yourself.


Not self aware yet. Behave yourself. I've told you to be more self aware and stop the projecting, judging and hypocricy. All you have done is mis judged me. This tells alot about the judgment of yourself. It shows your immaturity greatly. I'm not judging, these are your issues here.


It's obvious at this stage.It's why I feel your so programmed. Human beings are human beings. Stop dividing everything.

[meksar]

The reason why i think homosexuality has been condemed by people such as myslef, is because it has become something people are forced to embrace. If you look at the outright promotion of it in the media, education for example, then it becomes clear that there is a multilayerd agenda.

There are many people in high posistions that are bisexual and much worse, they will use sex to give people a chance to make some real money. Lets say you are in alleged marriage or relationship but taking it up the ass secretly to move higher it is not good. Lets say you are rejecting the required demands they can publically reveal it which could destroy the career of the person involved

[adbasque]

Adbasque i told you could argue yourself.

You don't tell me anything mate, you're nobody to tell me anything, when you learn what is respect, what is maturity then you can talk.





Not self aware yet. Behave yourself.
You see how you try to intimidate people, you try and talk down to people, to divert the attention away from you, to try and show that you're in control, but the truth is, you're so insecure deep down my friend :)




I've told you to be more self aware and stop the projecting, judging and hypocricy. All you have done is mis judged me. This tells alot about the judgment of yourself. It shows your immaturity greatly. I'm not judging, these are your issues here.Keep your awarness to yourself, I don't need your awarness, I was self aware since I could walk and talk, as for maturity if we were standing next to each other I can show how mature I am and immature you really are.


Here again, "I've Told you" an order to a small child, right, another diversion technique from you :)
another accusation, me projecting and judging, while in fact you're accusing me of the things you've been doing right from the start, and you did it on other threads, until I asked you to prove your claims then you disappeared ;)

I challenged you to present me with evidence which you've evaded everytime, because you talk a lot of nonsense and have not got a shred of evidence, the reason I challeged you is because I dealt with people who use the same arguments as you, when you pin them to the wall, they can't argue themselves out of the situation, they turn into character assassination, and attacking the person in front of them, to divert the challenge away from them.

I have no interest in arguing with you or anyone for that matter I see it as a big waste of time.




It's obvious at this stage.It's why I feel your so programmed. Human beings are human beings. Stop dividing everything.Again trying to discredit me and show your delusional superiority, except it won't work.
It works only in your delusional mind.

The human beings card is to show how universal you are and love everyone, good guy bad guy situation, automatically pointing the finger at me and paint me as a divider, a bad guy. ;)

Division: Here you're calling for back up, it's the norm, people don't like those who divide, so you're calling for others to support your accusations, but be a man a show where did I divide?

I am not so programmed, if there's one who is so programmed is you, I speak when I see something wrong, I speak when I know something is true, I am not scared of what people might think of me, I am certainly not a hypocrite, you and people like you on the other hand are the programmed ones and the true hypocrites you are the one following the programme.

You follow what is and isn't politically correct.
Another thing, it's a piece of advice, be humble or go and find someone else you can bullshit.

I will ask you again where did I divide everything? Can you prove it or are you going to be evasive like the rest of your cheap accusations?:rolleyes:

That wouldn't surprise me coming from you, and I have read most of your posts and threads with other people, always attacking others, do you want me to post some of your "work"?
I can do it, I don't accuse without proof.

Anyone who disagrees with you, is below you, that's you arrogant attitude that will keep you in the dark for the rest of your life.

I know what your insinuations too, the reason you keep repeating I am programmed, because we had another discussion on the other thread, when I asked you to prove something you never came back, because you could NOT prove anything.

Don't play these old cards with me, because everything I say I will back it up. :)

Now I am going to ignore you from now on, it matters not one bit what you say from now on.
Believe me I have far better to do than waste my time with bickering, and this forum seem to be swarmed with shills and trolls already.

Of course you're always welcome to debate with a sensible arguments anytime.
Have a nice day.

[adbasque]

The reason why i think homosexuality has been condemed by people such as myslef, is because it has become something people are forced to embrace. If you look at the outright promotion of it in the media, education for example, then it becomes clear that there is a multilayerd agenda.

Most people realised that there's an agenda behind it, believe me.


There are many people in high posistions that are bisexual and much worse, they will use sex to give people a chance to make some real money. Lets say you are in alleged marriage or relationship but taking it up the ass secretly to move higher it is not good. Lets say you are rejecting the required demands they can publically revel which could destroy the career of the person involvedEspecially in the Government, Showbiz, TV, Fashion industry and many more.
But also the glamorisation of it, that is annoying, we're heading to a time where a heterosexual would almost feel inferior that's their aim anyway.

That's how I see it unfolding.

[mo108]

If you look at the outright promotion of it in the media, education for example, then it becomes clear that there is a multilayerd agenda.

There are many people in high posistions .... they will use sex to give people a chance to make some real money.

Promoting and endorsing homosexuality is in itself profitable, and often can ensure continued employment.

[adbasque]

Yes. It's nuts. President Bush and Dick Cheney did not invade Iraq with queering the place up being their main aim. That's absurd.

I am sorry but this is not what he said, he said the war in Iraq is it about oil? Is it about Israel? Who knows?

He did not say that they invaded Iraq to promote Homosexuality, he said Zionism cannot tolerate Islam.

Listen carefully :)

[mind1universe]

Adbasque sort your issues, I'm not arguing your rants.

[bendoon]

This is what happens when you try and force your opinions on others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8pi6o2Uo2c&feature=related

Not that I agree with such actions, but it is quite amusing :D

[adbasque]

They do these things so they can claim more laws later.
To gain more sympathy from people you will see in no time, people will bow to the pressure of these campaigners, because there's a real agenda, even if it means they have to sacrifice one or a 100 to create an outrage which will then be used forever against anyone who dares to speak out against Homosexuality.

And that
Peter Tatchell

Is the biggest whore of the nwo

[yoyoinmyhead]

None of the things adjoined to an NWO plan is inherently evil.
Jewish Zionism has been used to militarize a nation, Americans are being used to oppress the third world.

But Jews and Americans are not bad!
It is the use of them in this way that is bad.

They WANT you to think its bad and get angry because they know you will not point out the problem and say "look, homosexuality is being used to do this, or that" You will say "down with homosexuality it's a NWO plot"

They then say, "look, sympathizers, look at that cruel man oppressing people, you should fight against his tyranny and vote for my bill"

This is the fundamental tactic they use for political change.

[mind1universe]

Stop blaming and assuming, your all cot into a stage of unecessary parania.

The only real problem here is the problem people have with homosexuality been given awareness. Homosexuality is a part of life, it's apart of nature.


This uprising is is caused not by zionism, not by jews, not by angry homosexuals, not by secret soceities, not by by environmentalists, not by crazy nuts, not by the edcuation system.


It is caused because of the breaking down of society. If society wanted to protect itself from this, schools wouldn't be teaching it all. Its homosexuali activists and equalty systems that are pushing for this.


The problem is
Power, Scandals, bones in the closet, inequality, corruption, racism and injustice. This is been exposed in every shape in this world right now. Most of you are not quick enough or aware of whats is happening to your world. Some of you need to really get over the homosexuality been exposed in society. Everything is been exposed. This happened with racism years ago. Like many aspects of society we had to face and were not prepared to deal with. People need to be concisley aware of this blatant reality. For homosexuality to be accepted this is the path we al have to put up with at this time. People tend to think that this is goign to be easy, well it's not going to be easy and no one said its going to be either

We are never going to be comfortable or prepared with this deep repressed aspect of life. Homosexuality like many other things in life is a reality. We are in a time of facing reality right now. This is why you have so many people like Adbasque and others having major self triggering issues within them. They say they don't have a problem with it but still, show they truley do have issues with the whole actualization of it. The actions are loud and clear. They rant and rave with pure ignorance of the simple truth what is really going on. Self awareness as I said is vital here.

It is NOT a zionist agenda. Zionism, The Media and the Vatican repels homosexuality. if people were less stupid and ignorant of what the current system stands for they would know this. The whole world is experiencing change. Its part of this whole cycle.


Get with it, stop fucking moaning about this, and then maybe we will get through this ride alot easier.
For all people of all genders and sexual orientation.

Adbasque and other snap out of your delusions and learn to become more aware of the world around you and stop with the pettiness. Homosexuality is a fact of life. It needs to be adressed. It hasn't and these are the facts. It has been repressed by society for the last 2,000 years. When it has been repressed for so long expect to feel the repcrussions spilled onto society. Society has put this under the carpet for centuries.

[adbasque]

Adbasque and other snap out of your delusions and learn to become more aware of the world around you and stop with the pettiness. Homosexuality is a fact of life. It needs to be adressed. It hasn't and these are the facts. It has been repressed by society for the last 2,000 years. When it has been repressed for so long expect to feel the repcrussions spilled onto society. Society has put this under the carpet for centuries.

You're smooth talker aren't pointing a finger at others, just so you put your own argument across.

What do you know about Adbasque?
You pretend to have understood everything constantly talking to people as if they were idiots, as if they were asleep, and you're of course the only one who is aware of what's going on, I am not going down this route with you.

Because as far as I am concerned you're just rambling without any direction, you talk for the sake of talking.

Next time when you want to make a point avoid pointing fingers at others, what you're doing here, is whoever disagrees with you, you bring up his name in your statements, to undermine his future posts, it's like preparing people not to take notice of his arguments, labelling basically.

You twist the whole thing to suit your own position, I don't care about homosexuality if that's what you're on about, so long as it's kept private like any other sexuality.

I said it in another post, but you didn't care to refute it, because you know I was right.

It's not the homosexuality that I have a problem with it's the agenda behind it
It's not the Feminism or women's right that I have a problem with but the agenda pushed to crush society with.

It's not the Jews that I have a problem with but the agenda of Zionism associated with the Jewish community that I have a problem with

Your problem is you think everyone else is thick, deep sleep, unaware, etc.. I can depict your statement and show how arrogant you really are disguised as a good person looking for the good of all people, nobody is that universal no one, what you really are is a full time hypocrite man.

And the reason you keep bringing Adbasque in your every statement, is because Adbasque pisses you off and tells you exactly what you are.

Adbasque doesn't buy your bullshit, and that pisses you off, Adbasque thinks for himself and not pushed around like you, trying to please everyone not because you want to, but you know what people want to hear, basically you do not have a personality, you always result into character assassination of those who oppose your ideas, which they are not even yours, you been fed crap and make it your own.

Adbasque on the other hand doesn't say something just because it's a popular thing, I say what I believe deep down.
You see the difference between you and Adbasque and others who disagree with your idiotic ideas, stop trying to intimidate people with your bullshit, it doesn't work, be yourself come clean, even if it means the entire forum will disagree with you, just be yourself right now you're not.

You are what you expect some people would like to hear, you are no different than tony blair or mandelson.

you might aswell seek a carrier in politics it will suit just fine.
Next time forget F*** Adbasque, unless you are directly talking to me, don't mention my name again.
find someone else to attack and point a finger at.

[adbasque]

But Jews and Americans are not bad!
It is the use of them in this way that is bad.

They WANT you to think its bad and get angry because they know you will not point out the problem and say "look, homosexuality is being used to do this, or that" You will say "down with homosexuality it's a NWO plot"

People are NOT bad, Jews Americans, Arabs, Chinese, and so on, it's the programmes that are evil, people are lead to hate one another while in reality they don't have a problem with one another.

The whole thing is a setup, in almost every aspects of life.

They then say, "look, sympathizers, look at that cruel man oppressing people, you should fight against his tyranny and vote for my bill"

This is the fundamental tactic they use for political change.

Absolutely, agreed man

[cruise4]

It needs to be adressed.

So prove it's natural instead of spouting meaningless drivel. We can all accept fat people, but that doesn't mean MSG or whatever isn't a cause of some of it, and repeatedly you have not addressed this particular issue.

Bottom line: You have no idea but it's seemingly too close to home to actually contemplate. I've had close gay mates, I've been in situations where blokes jump in and out of bed with anyone and as many times as they can. I've seen formally straight blokes become gay. I've been to gay clubs. I've had gay people tell me they would have chosen to be straight, I've seen a lot in this area and on the whole my experience overwhelmingly shows Adabesque's view is very valid. There's always exceptions.

On the other hand, perhaps you are correct. But there are examples galore of medical interference causing effects and there is reason to be suspicious in this area too. And if there is anything to this, the naysayers are more akin to best friends than your enemies and the agenda is an obvious one and an outstanding one running alongside massive sexual programming and exposure, which could amount to recruitment.

It's suspect... like it or not. Your opinion on self is not good enough to satisfy this question. Your blanket refusal to address this particular issue is self defeating.

I generally like and respect gay people, they are usually intelligent and kind. I'd defend them as I would any other minority. But that isn't the issue...

Interference as cause is. Is it possible? Yes. Do we know enough to draw that conclusion? No. Can we see signs of manipulation? Yes. And as for being quick... you should think about backlash and setup, who's doing it and why. Equality and acceptance is one thing, biological and social engineering is another.

And does it matter? Not to me but it might to you, if you dare go there.

[mind1universe]

You're smooth talker aren't pointing a finger at others, just so you put your own argument across. Your childish judgments never seem to surprise me!



What do you know about Adbasque?
You pretend to have understood everything constantly talking to people as if they were idiots, as if they were asleep, and you're of course the only one who is aware of what's going on, I am not going down this route with you.

I'm aware of the behaviour, actions and sublimity of your message here. That's what I'm judging. I don't need to judge your personally, or base anything on your character, I think you do that just fine with the childish digs. I'm not pretending to be anything or anyone at all. Instead of been so focused on swinging on the offensive/defensive all the time. Are you aware of yourself?



Because as far as I am concerned you're just rambling without any direction, you talk for the sake of talking. ]

I couldn't give a bamboozle what your concerns you have about my views, you obviously block and listen to things you choose to hear. So I don't think you will see anybody's view. It's why you make non-sense or non-points.



Next time when you want to make a point avoid pointing fingers at others, what you're doing here, is whoever disagrees with you, you bring up his name in your statements, to undermine his future posts, it's like preparing people not to take notice of his arguments, labelling basically.

I pointed the behaviour of your attitude. Your projecting your issues such creativity your even on the defense now:D Your like a bull in china shop arguing about the most childish things I've ever heard. Your actually making this out to be far worse than it actually is. It's people like who make such a big deal out of it. Not the activists.



You twist the whole thing to suit your own position, I don't care about homosexuality if that's what you're on about, so long as it's kept private like any other sexuality.

It's not about suiting me, how did you somehow come up with a personal attack like this. Again ignorant and inconsistent ramblings from you. Oh I think you care so much about this... Actions and behaviour are so clear in how your coming across as you make it personal to you.

I'm not twisting anything. You haven't shown where I have. You twist it to your interpretation. Thats the issue you have and you have this conflict in your own life as well.

Homosexuality is apart of life. FACT. Sexuality is not private so don't just assume homosexuality is. Get with reality. People who are pushing the acceptance movement of homosexuality are not talking about sexual matters whatsoever. So don't play that tripe. Your just trying to find some excuse to stop this process. What part are you so threatened by. What harm is homosexuality doing to your life.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, get the fuck over it.


I said it in another post, but you didn't care to refute it, because you know I was right.

I don't think your right. I never thought your incoherent bitching was right. In this case this is not about been right or wrong. Its about been aware and accepting reality. You can sit here all day try prove your right. In my view its quite the idiotic way to be. It seems to me, that your only focus on this, is how it affects you and how this affection devastates the world around us. It affects you, it doesn't affect others like this. You have to separate you and your reality from others peoples reality. Because your reality is not the same as everyone elses. This is what I mean by awareness. Your the most unaware person I've ever met on this forum to be quite frank and this is a defenate judgment from me at this point. You need to stand back, take a deep breath and shut up for five minutes and look at yourself in the way your carrying on even now. Your throwing so much insults at me, that on page 9, you don't even know my position on this. Your to focused on attacking and not actually listening at all. I don't see you screaming about sexuality thats displayed all over the net and Tv all the time.


Why?

I don't see you giving out about society not dealing with Aids and swine flue right now, the very things society creates. I don't see you bitching about the current society we live in that promotes division and war. I don't see you bitching about how unbalance society is when it comes to the poor third world countries.

No you don't because you dont have any self trigger issues with these problems.

Maybe this is another problem you have.

No awareness
No listening skills.

Valued necessary traits in communication.



[B]It's not the homosexuality that I have a problem with it's the agenda behind it
It's not the Feminism or women's right that I have a problem with but the agenda pushed to crush society with.

Society is the problem. Anyone with a brain would know that.
Not homosexuality, Not jews, Not race or anything.

Of course you wouldn't have the brain capacity to understand who, what and why society is run by and whom its controlled by.;)


Your problem is you think everyone else is thick, deep sleep, unaware, etc.. I can depict your statement and show how arrogant you really are disguised as a good person looking for the good of all people, nobody is that universal no one, what you really are is a full time hypocrite man.

I think your very very unaware. But keep throwing insults, you make yourself to be so oblivion to your own behaviour.



And the reason you keep bringing Adbasque in your every statement, is because Adbasque pisses you off and tells you exactly what you are.

I mentioned you once, and not as in one person either. I mentioned the people who are whineging and moaning. So it wouldn't matter if I didn't mention your name.

People are laughing at you, for this childishness.


Adbasque doesn't buy your bullshit, and that pisses you off, Adbasque thinks for himself and not pushed around like you, trying to please everyone not because you want to, but you know what people want to hear, basically you do not have a personality, you always result into character assassination of those who oppose your ideas, which they are not even yours, you been fed crap and make it your own. You are hilarious.


Adbasque on the other hand doesn't say something just because it's a popular thing, I say what I believe deep down.
You see the difference between you and Adbasque and others who disagree with your idiotic ideas, stop trying to intimidate people with your bullshit, it doesn't work, be yourself come clean, even if it means the entire forum will disagree with you, just be yourself right now you're not.

Brillant..... So defensive, but when hes called out, he attacks.

"But oh know your wrong your this"

Your comedy.


You are what you expect some people would like to hear, you are no different than tony blair or mandelson.

More idiotic rambling, off topic remarks, and judgments.


you might aswell seek a carrier in politics it will suit just fine.
Next time forget F*** Adbasque, unless you are directly talking to me, don't mention my name again.
find someone else to attack and point a finger at.

Your very angry.

[mind1universe]

I still hold to these views I have.:)

[branjo]

What about animals that do it then?, I mean if its a society thing n all.

[adbasque]

Your childish judgments never seem to surprise me!
it's actually never ceases to surprise me, that is the expression you wanted not never seem :)


I'm aware of the behaviour, actions and sublimity of your message here. That's what I'm judging. I don't need to judge your personally, or base anything on your character, I think you do that just fine with the childish digs. I'm not pretending to be anything or anyone at all. Instead of been so focused on swinging on the offensive/defensive all the time. Are you aware of yourself?The same as I am aware of your behaviour and what you're trying to do here, not just with me, but almost anyone who disagrees with you.
The question is are you aware of what you're doing and spouting?
Yes sometimes when we are faced with childish remarks, we tend to go down two levels to try and get through, which is required in your case




I couldn't give a bamboozle what you concerned about my views, you obviously block and listen to things you want to hear. So I don't think you will see anybody's view.I do listen to other views, and even respect them even if I disagree with them, but you hardly put anything forward that remotely look like a view.





I pointed the behaviour of your attitude. Your projecting your issues such creativity your even on the defense now:D Your like a bull in china shop arguing about the most childish things I've ever heard. Your actually making this out to be far worse than it actually is. It's people like who make such a big deal out of it. Not the activists.Don't change subject, yes unlike you, you call and accuse everyone else of being programmed, but you seem to forget and what is amazing you don't even consider you might be a victim of a true and deep programming.




It's not about suiting me, how did you somehow come up with a personal attack like this. Again ignorant and inconsistent ramblings from you. Oh I think you care so much about this... Actions and behaviour are so clear in how your coming across as you make it personal to you.

Homosexuality is apart of life. FACT. Sexuality is not private so don't just assume homosexuality is. Get with reality. People who are pushing the acceptance movement of homosexuality are not talking about sexual matters whatsoever. So don't play that tripe. Your just trying to find some excuse to stop this process. What part are you so threatened by. What harm is homosexuality doing to your life.Oh yes it's all about your ego, I did mention it before I am not going to repeat myself again, just go and re-read it again.
Sexuality is private and intimate, to people like you maybe not, but to me it always is and always will be private and intimate, do you realise how idiotic and childish your views are, and have no proper foundations.



I've said it before and I'll say it again, get the fuck over it.You mean turning into a sheeple like you? a gullible? :D get real man get real lol
That's exactly your problem you want people to be like you and think like you, any different than you is no good



I don't think your right. I never thought your incoherent bitching was right. In this case this is not about been right or wrong. Its about been aware and accepting reality. You can sit here all day try prove your right. In my view its quite the idiotic way to be. It seems to me, that your only focus on this, is how it affects you and how this affection devastates the world around us. It affects you, it doesn't affect others like this. You have to separate you and your reality from others peoples reality.I believe you're really out of your mind I truly believe so, and I won't mind you next time promise, it's funny you're accusing me of being incoherent, you sound very incoherent :D I shouldn't laugh at this because I feel sorry really.
Did anyone ever told you, you talk loads of crap?
You probably read one of DI's books and got lost somewhere between reality and fiction, you seem to repeat the word reality quite often, this is clearly a sign of being completely lost.

In almost everyone of your posts, regardless of the topic and thread, you keep repeating these words, that's what's dangerous with people like you, when they think they woke up, and aware, they usually get even more confused and lost.
And that's what's happening to you, and I will remind you of this every now and then, to show how deeply troubled you really are, you seem to stick to this "reality" that you never been able to define, and not just this, almost everything you talk about is floating somewhere in the abstract world, without any definition attached to it.


Because your reality is not the same as everyone elses. This is what I mean by awareness. Your the most unaware person I've ever met on this forum to be quite frank and this is a defenate judgment from me at this point. You need to stand back, take a deep breath and shut up for five minutes and look at yourself in the way your carrying on even now. Your throwing so much insults at me, that on page 9, you don't even know my position on this. Your to focused on attacking and not actually listening at all. I don't see you screaming about sexuality thats displayed all over the net and Tv all the time.Again what is highlighted in red to show how tactful and devious you really are, to gain people's support, you associate yourself with the majority of people, alienating me as the lunatic :D

The second line is from your deep frustration and anger and your typical attitude in giving orders and anyone who disagrees with you is labelled.

I shouldn't really reply to your posts anymore you ain't worth my time




Why?

I don't see you giving out about society not dealing with Aids and swine flue right now, the very things society creates. I don't see you bitching about the current society we live in that promotes division and war. I don't see you bitching about how unbalance society is when it comes to the poor third world countries.if you care to read my other threads and posts you'll see, but then I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone, what you don't seem to get through your thick skull, is I don't give a S** what you are, what you think, who you are, you're nobody as far as I am concerned, you are only important in your own eyes not me. do you get that?


No you don't because you dont have any self trigger issues with these problems.What I have or haven't is none of your business, none of your concerns,
Find out my other threads, if you want to learn about me.



Maybe this is another problem you have.

No awareness
No listening skills.

Valued necessary traits in communication.

I certainly don't have the same level of awarness as you, you can be sure of that, you're still mangling your lower level views that you consider awarness, and it's a pity.
You mean no agreeing skills, anyone who doesn't agree with your gibberish doesn't have a listening skills :D lol


Society is the problem. Anyone with a brain would know that.
Not homosexuality, Not jews, Not race or anything.From dick to harry.


Of course you wouldn't have the brain capacity to understand who, what and why society is run by and whom its controlled by.;)You're so pathetic that I don't even see the point in asnwering your garbage anymore :D



I think your very very unaware. But keep throwing insults, you make yourself to be so oblivion to your own behaviour.Don't try this crap with me, deal with your own insecure behaviour before throwing anything at others, the only thing I am not confortable with is I had to lower my level to yours, this is actually a fact, and I will prove it, I will prove that through your other posts on other topics you keep repeating using the same arguments for every situation, well arguments is a big word, it's gibberish and nonsense really.




I mentioned you once, and not as in one person either. I mentioned the people who are whineging and moaning. So it wouldn't matter if I didn't mention your name.You mentioned my name twice in the same post, Make your points without mentioning me, it shows how insecure you really are, you mention others, you label others, you slander others, just to deflect anything that is pointing at you, make your statement without pointing a finger, but because you know you're incabale.



People are laughing at you, for this childishness. Again, the same tactic, you are directing their attention away from you to me :D :) you see what you really are?
LOL


You are hilarious.I am hilarious, and you're the joke, I am being hilarious by telling you as a joke



Brillant..... So defensive, but when hes called out, he attacks.I don't attack, I asked you to make your points without mentioning any names, mine or anyone elses, which I understand it's almost impossible for you to make any statement or comment without labelling somebody.


More idiotic rambling, off topic remarks, and judgments.



Your very angry.Yes when I come down to your level, I sometimes realise my intellectual level has dropped and that hurts more than anything else.
Angry? why because I used the F** yes I was angry not afraid to say it, because I don't like people like you mentioning my name to make a stupid point.
People can get sued in a court of law for this, do you know that?

As from now you will be ignored no matter what you say or do, as I just drew your psychological profile and it's not all good news I am afraid.

But so long as you don't know it, who cares, so long as you're happy with your delusion that's the main thing.

[mind1universe]

What about animals that do it then?, I mean if its a society thing n all.

exactly.....

This is Adbasque is so cot up in this illusion. I won't judge I will just leave it as that.:)

[mind1universe]

it's actually never ceases to surprise me, that is the expression you wanted not never seem :)


Adbasque your funny to watch you would argue yourself in a paper bag.




The same as I am aware of your behaviour and what you're trying to do here, not just with me, but almost anyone who disagrees with you.
The question is are you aware of what you're doing and spouting?
Yes sometimes when we are faced with childish remarks, we tend to go down two levels to try and get through, which is required in your case



I'm not "trying" to do anything. I'm just simply telling you the facts. I'm aware of the points I've made I don't feel I need to defend that. As I've made it non personal or one sided.



I do listen to other views, and even respect them even if I disagree with them, but you hardly put anything forward that remotely look like a view.

I think you should read your posts more often. I'm helping you. You have me convinced that you don't read anything.




Don't change subject, yes unlike you, you call and accuse everyone else of being programmed, but you seem to forget and what is amazing you don't even consider you might be a victim of a true and deep programming.

I didn't change the subject you brought society into this so many times, and how this activist agenda is harming society. You have constantly brought up trivial issues to counter your argument.

When I bring up an issue of this subject that society affects, you automatically dismiss it.

This is literate proof of your non ablity to discern the world in an adult objective manner.

If you can't see both sides of the situation, then you dont have the capacty or skill to debate this topic:)

I'm aware of the deep programming. I'm even aware that this thread is a result of this programming. Singling out races and sterotypes and drill the division into society. If you understand the sinister of society, you will understand that your realising your playing into their hands.



Oh yes it's all about your ego, I did mention it before I am not going to repeat myself again, just go and re-read it again.
Sexuality is private and intimate, to people like you maybe not, but to me it always is and always will be private and intimate, do you realise how idiotic and childish your views are, and have no proper foundations.

Here you go again, with the personal attack. Knock it off Adbasque.


You mean turning into a sheeple like you? a gullible? :D get real man get real lol
That's exactly your problem you want people to be like you and think like you, any different than you is no good

Again are you aware? Do you listen to others do you read your posts?


I believe you're really out of your mind I truly believe so, and I won't mind you next time promise, it's funny you're accusing me of being incoherent, you sound very incoherent :D I shouldn't laugh at this because I feel sorry really.
Did anyone ever told you, you talk loads of crap?
You probably read one of DI's books and got lost somewhere between reality and fiction, you seem to repeat the word reality quite often, this is clearly a sign of being completely lost.

You repeat the program. It's why you state alot of "beliefts" from the "belief system"



In almost everyone of your posts, regardless of the topic and thread, you keep repeating these words, that's what's dangerous with people like you, when they think they woke up, and aware, they usually get even more confused and lost.

Projection is something you do quite well. I will let you carry on taking this off topic. Its absurd.


And that's what's happening to you, and I will remind you of this every now and then, to show how deeply troubled you really are, you seem to stick to this "reality" that you never been able to define, and not just this, almost everything you talk about is floating somewhere in the abstract world, without any definition attached to it.

Adbasque is this all you do, insult, patronise and attack people. I have never come accross anything like this in my life. Its not at all acceptable behaviour.


Again what is highlighted in red to show how tactful and devious you really are, to gain people's support, you associate yourself with the majority of people, alienating me as the lunatic :D[

The second line is from your deep frustration and anger and your typical attitude in giving orders and anyone who disagrees with you is labelled.

I shouldn't really reply to your posts anymore you ain't worth my time

What are you talking about seriously. Stick to the topic please. I'm pretty in control of myself to be blunt.



if you care to read my other threads and posts you'll see, but then I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone, what you don't seem to get through your thick skull, is I don't give a S** what you are, what you think, who you are, you're nobody as far as I am concerned, you are only important in your own eyes not me. do you get that?

What I have or haven't is none of your business, none of your concerns,
Find out my other threads, if you want to learn about me.


I certainly don't have the same level of awarness as you, you can be sure of that, you're still mangling your lower level views that you consider awarness, and it's a pity.
You mean no agreeing skills, anyone who doesn't agree with your gibberish doesn't have a listening skills :D lol

From dick to harry.

You're so pathetic that I don't even see the point in asnwering your garbage anymore :D



Can I ask you one personal question, since you have taken this to a personal abusive level at this stage.


What age are you?




Don't try this crap with me, deal with your own insecure behaviour before throwing anything at others, the only thing I am not confortable with is I had to lower my level to yours, this is actually a fact, and I will prove it, I will prove that through your other posts on other topics you keep repeating using the same arguments for every situation, well arguments is a big word, it's gibberish and nonsense really.



Again Ive been consistent and calm towards your atagonising behaviour. i'm now telling you this is not acceptable nor appropriate. You need to sort it out.

I once again will defend my case. I'm not taking this personal or siding in these stupid attacks. Nor am I trying anything. You need to snap out of these twisted delusions yourself.

By learning to become aware.


You mentioned my name twice in the same post, Make your points without mentioning me, it shows how insecure you really are, you mention others, you label others, you slander others, just to deflect anything that is pointing at you, make your statement without pointing a finger, but because you know you're incabale.


Again, the same tactic, you are directing their attention away from you to me :D :) you see what you really are?
LOL

I am hilarious, and you're the joke, I am being hilarious by telling you as a joke


I don't attack, I asked you to make your points without mentioning any names, mine or anyone elses, which I understand it's almost impossible for you to make any statement or comment without labelling somebody.

Yes when I come down to your level, I sometimes realise my intellectual level has dropped and that hurts more than anything else.
Angry? why because I used the F** yes I was angry not afraid to say it, because I don't like people like you mentioning my name to make a stupid point.
People can get sued in a court of law for this, do you know that?

As from now you will be ignored no matter what you say or do, as I just drew your psychological profile and it's not all good news I am afraid.

But so long as you don't know it, who cares, so long as you're happy with your delusion that's the main thing.



Ok to the rest of it, I seen swearing and so much anger in these lines I ignored the rest of the attacks.

[cruise4]

What about animals that do it then?, I mean if its a society thing n all.

Got any facts and figures? Plus they share the same biological environment to a lesser or greater degree. Who knows what chemicals have been rained down upon the creatures. I believe estrogen has been shown to affect the sexuality of salmon. We may know they use estrogen mimicking molecule release via plastics, for example. Why? Baby bottles, vaccinations. Talk about drugs and it's advertising. There's some interesting points made in the 'Are we all bisexual' thread. My only point is this aspect deserves serious consideration. To me there is plenty pointing to a possible 'engineering' and that should be studied, not ignored.

[mind1universe]

What about animals that do it then?, I mean if its a society thing n all.

Got any facts and figures? Plus they share the same biological environment to a lesser or greater degree. Who knows what chemicals have been rained down upon the creatures. I believe estrogen has been shown to affect the sexuality of salmon. We may know they use estrogen mimicking molecule release via plastics, for example. Why? Baby bottles, vaccinations. Talk about drugs and it's advertising. There's some interesting points made in the 'Are we all bisexual' thread. My only point is this aspect deserves serious consideration. To me there is plenty pointing to a possible 'engineering' and that should be studied, not ignored.


Oh ffs.......................................

You know this is just stupid. if your going to go into the gritty details of why Animals are gay. Then whats the point of been anything. Whats the point in existence.


The only thing we need to make note of here is. Some people are gay and some animals are gay.


So fucking what. Just like some people are born with Red hair. Just accept the fact and let it be.

[branjo]

Its a point I suppose, but fact and figures arent that important when you see a wild dog boning its mate in an alley way, or young bulls at it in a field...lol.

[cruise4]

So have I got this right...

You all think there is zero chance that chemical or social interference is playing any role whatsoever?

Some babies are born dead. Accept the matter is not a sensible approach. Causation is worth a look. I'm no expert on animal behaviour, nor do I understand what they may perceive, or not, as eroticism.

I couldn't give a monkey's if someone is gay. I would care if it's a manipulated result in some way. I care about examining manipulation, so get off your homosexual high horse mind1universe. It's irrelevant.

[adbasque]

exactly.....

This is Adbasque is so cot up in this illusion. I won't judge I will just leave it as that.:)

Ok then, I thought I was talking to a human being, sorry, If I knew you were an animal I would've been more understanding.

[adbasque]

What about animals that do it then?, I mean if its a society thing n all.

Got any facts and figures? Plus they share the same biological environment to a lesser or greater degree. Who knows what chemicals have been rained down upon the creatures. I believe estrogen has been shown to affect the sexuality of salmon. We may know they use estrogen mimicking molecule release via plastics, for example. Why? Baby bottles, vaccinations. Talk about drugs and it's advertising. There's some interesting points made in the 'Are we all bisexual' thread. My only point is this aspect deserves serious consideration. To me there is plenty pointing to a possible 'engineering' and that should be studied, not ignored.

Exactly, because sexuality suddenly exploded, there must be a reason, yes all the chemicals we have been subjected to and can influence our behaviour, but not just from one side or one angle, a lot of things to take into account and consideration.

The whole sexual revolution I am pretty sure was engineered, it didn't just happen.
And the attitude of the acceptance that most people are falling for, not accepting the practice itself, is accepting the agenda and the programming that is taking place behind it.

[mind1universe]

Ok then, I thought I was talking to a human being, sorry, If I knew you were an animal I would've been more understanding.

Are you calling me an animal now?

I dear hope you take responsbility for your bigot unaceptable behaviour.


You didn't answer my question, after all your name calling. What age are you. You have proved you dont even read at all. You have shown yourself right up. Maybe ES is right about you (I hate to say it)

But anyway I'm sure you no older than 23.

[mind1universe]

Exactly, because sexuality suddenly exploded, there must be a reason, yes all the chemicals we have been subjected to and can influence our behaviour, but not just from one side or one angle, a lot of things to take into account and consideration.

The whole sexual revolution I am pretty sure was engineered, it didn't just happen.
And the attitude of the acceptance that most people are falling for, not accepting the practice itself, is accepting the agenda and the programming that is taking place behind it.


Homosexuality has been in animals since the beginning of tme.
Some animals are asexual, some males can produce young etc etc.

Your are so clouded on the physicality of life. No surprise there.


You breath the program lol...

[mind1universe]

So have I got this right...

You all think there is zero chance that chemical or social interference is playing any role whatsoever?


Chemicals are chemicals.


You still have to face the fact its part of nature. Everything in nature can be broken down to chemicals and atoms. It's not the point or issue here.

Explain what created nature, If I dare you go down that road.


Your brainwashed by the program too. How do I know, because your repeating it. To what benieft, none!

[adbasque]

As DI once said and he was right about it, sheep policing other sheep.

if you step out of line or you're different you are labelled.

What some super intelligent people who are arguing their socks off here on this forum, still don't get it.

If you disagree with Israel you hate Jews and you're anti-semitic
If you disagree with Homosexuality you are a hateful person, you're a homophobe.
Yes I am a homophobe, because I don't agree with it, but to take it out of proportion, by using some crap arguments such as:

I hate homosexuals
I will beat them up
I am superior to them
I will humiliate them
Or just be mean to them this is an absolute nonsense
The other thing I can't stand, is when something is shoved down my throat and I can see it's done deliberately.
Does that mean all homosexuals are guilty? No, it's the people who engineered the agenda, not the average homosexual, and anyone who keeps his/her sexuality private I don't have a problem with, hetero or homo, I did make it clear on another thread.

This is my position.

[adbasque]

Everyone is brainwashed Mr Mind1univers
You know something we are all conditionned to a certain extent, we cannot exist as a society or communities without a certain degree of conditioning.

It's rather fascinating how you accuse everybody of being brainwashed and programmed, and accusing them of repeating themselves, who's repeating himself here? :rolleyes:

This is not an attack just to point out your behaviour, you don't really know which programme, you heard it somewhere and sounded trendy so you kept using it ever since, you get frustrated when people don't pay any attention to what you say.

Ok I'll ask you these few questions

Which Programme?
Who's the programmer?
What type of a programme?
What is it designed to do, for control? how exactly it's been administered.

Answer me these question, then we can continue on your abstract theories.

[adbasque]

Homosexuality has been in animals since the beginning of tme.
Some animals are asexual, some males can produce young etc etc.

Your are so clouded on the physicality of life. No surprise there.

Ok why don't you produce some young? I am clouded? lol


You breath the program lol...

it seems to me that everyone here breaths the program except you lol
You talk about things which you don't hold any depth of knowledge and you down fall is you underestimate people around you, and then you find yourself in an awkward situation

lol
If I breath the programme, why don't you show me what this programme looks like?:rolleyes:
let's assume I am programmed, wouldn't you be kind enough and help me to deprogramme?

[adbasque]

Are you calling me an animal now?

I dear hope you take responsbility for your bigot unaceptable behaviour.


You didn't answer my question, after all your name calling. What age are you. You have proved you dont even read at all. You have shown yourself right up. Maybe ES is right about you (I hate to say it)

But anyway I'm sure you no older than 23.

I am not calling you anything, you accuse me of not reading but it's obvious who's not reading, I only replied to what you said, so it's ok for animals it's ok for us?

Go back and re-read your last comments.

You can't claim to be an animal and when you're called an animal you're all offended? it's illogical don't you think?
Well you called me several times a child I simply ignored your name calling, because I know who I am, you can call me what you want.

Why can't you keep on the topic?
because you can't really debate, let's be honest, your idea of a debate is everybody would agree with you and if they don't they are programmed :D
is this your idea of a debate?

[cruise4]

I just googled for some information about animals and homosexuality, and there's plenty of posts about it. The number of posts that came up compared to a similar search I did two years ago approx. was a suprise and I'm tempted to say someone has been busy, but nevermind.

There appears to be many examples of animals engaging in homosexual activity. Whether there is an equation between animals and humans like this appears unknown. Some say yes, some argue no. Without an undrstanding of what is natural I can draw no conclusions about animals compared to humans in this regard at the moment. Suggestive though, on the surface.


I don't really trust doctors to tell the truth and whether findings about the hypothalamic region are accurate...

http://depot.knaw.nl/811/1/15096_285_swaab.pdf

Ditto phrases like...
Endocrine disrupters are environmental chemicals that mimic or modulate...

The hypothalamus is an archaic brain structure that develops early in life and is involved in the regulation of the typically male sexual behaviour.

http://www.birthpsychology.com/primalhealth/primal16.html

It appears there is much room to question exactly what occurs here, especially when taken together with what we know about the elite. At the moment I have to say... that's the way it is... investigation is still valid. The debate IS NOT over and environment at an early age is key. However I doubt I can go much further with this.

[mind1universe]

Everyone is brainwashed Mr Mind1univers
You know something we are all conditionned to a certain extent, we cannot exist as a society or communities without a certain degree of conditioning.

It's rather fascinating how you accuse everybody of being brainwashed and programmed, and accusing them of repeating themselves, who's repeating himself here? :rolleyes:

This is not an attack just to point out your behaviour, you don't really know which programme, you heard it somewhere and sounded trendy so you kept using it ever since, you get frustrated when people don't pay any attention to what you say.

Ok I'll ask you these few questions

Which Programme?
Who's the programmer?
What type of a programme?
What is it designed to do, for control? how exactly it's been administered.

Answer me these question, then we can continue on your abstract theories.


Which is why I specifically stated you to STOP. You might of thought you were aware. But you weren't


Everyone on this thread is bitching about this. Homosexuality is not the problem. Homosexuality been taught is not the problem. Homosexuality been exposed is not the problem. Homosexuality been discussed publically is not the problem. Homosexuality even been accepted isn't the problem either. Homosexuals doing homosexual acts is not the problem at all.

Homosexuality like many aspects of life. Is still not accepted. These are the facts. Lets stick with the basics. Take note of it.



There is no one shoving it down anybody's neck. That is utter bullshit. People use this excuse because they don't to face this reality. Homosexuality is STILL NOT accepted. People say its ruining society. There are gay kids in school bullied everyday, because the education system doesn't preach it enough. Why shouldn't they be making it more aware? No one on this thread has given a valid argument, of "this drillling it down peoples neck". You don't have to listen to it. You don't have to be in the same room. You don't have to take your kids to that school. You have to realise that schools and education systems teach alot more dangerous crap than Homosexuality.


For example the lies in our history books.

Let me tell you something about society.

Its another false reality. Its the art of brainwashing. You learn a system. A system that is corrupt. A system that is unbalanced and will always be unbalanced. A system that focus on wealth, power and control. That is the system. It will always be the way. The system created

Racism
Poverty
Unbalance
Division
Hatred
Fear
Anger
Repression
Opression
False hope
Depression

The fact is Society is never balanced. It will never be balanced. It wasn't designed for balance. The school system doesn't even develop a child's intuition or imagination. The school system doesn't teach a child to ask questions or discern. The system is about conformists thinking. You retain knowledge. You don't learn knowledge you retain what your been told to learn.


Homosexuality is one aspect that society still does not accept. Society is now been forced to accept it. People are brainwashed so they haven't faced this reality before. So they react and go on the defensive. This is unknown territory. Its facing the unknowns. People don't want to face that fact.



So people should stop fucking whinging about the awareness of homosexuality in our schools. Be blessed that your children are learning something that is not conformists, yet is a reality of life. People are fighting the system. There are hundreds of other examples where people are fighting to bring balance and discernment to this world.


I wouldn't be worried about school whatsoever. The world is changing and society is ending.

You all don't know anything of what is going on. Adbasque I say this with respect. You really don't know what is going on here. You think you do but your don't.


This will be be last time telling you.

Take a deep breath and look at your world, and look how trivial and pathetic your arguments have been on this thread. You will see you have missed the bigger picture and the real problems were are facing. I can't tell you enough how absurd your arguments have been on this forum.

[mind1universe]

Everyone is brainwashed Mr Mind1univers
You know something we are all conditionned to a certain extent, we cannot exist as a society or communities without a certain degree of conditioning.



Yes we can exist without society. You can't though. :) You said it yourself so your now automatically conditioned.


It's rather fascinating how you accuse everybody of being brainwashed and programmed, and accusing them of repeating themselves, who's repeating himself here? :rolleyes::rolleyes:



This is not an attack just to point out your behaviour, you don't really know which programme, you heard it somewhere and sounded trendy so you kept using it ever since, you get frustrated when people don't pay any attention to what you say.

My behaviour is in check. As you may of noticed.



Ok I'll ask you these few questions

Which Programme?
Who's the programmer?
What type of a programme?
What is it designed to do, for control? how exactly it's been administered.

Answer me these question, then we can continue on your abstract theories.


The programme.

Is human control. The program is run by people who mastered this reality. Meaning that this world has been run by these illuminated masters since the beginning of man. They evolved and led. While nature determines the rest to follow. There are two types of people. It's hardwired in our own DNA. leaders and followers. Human beings are naturally lazy life forms. We will follow any kind of system. We are one of the most reactive, gullible and predictable species on the planet, yet being labeled as the most intelligent.


There has been world changes every few thousands years. This ascension allowed some people to survive where others to fall. Survival of the fittest. These people have all the knowledge of the last 200, 000 years stored with them.

We the nomads of this world, followed their system. They hold all the power on the planet. To the point we live their version of reality. The knowledge is kept secret from us. They operate the planet as you know it to be.


What they know is another matter;)

What type of programming is involved. Ok.

MMR jabs, vasccinations, mercury
Flouridization of our water
Relgous structure ( created by them)
School system ( right brain, conformists info hypnosis)
T.V (daily hypnosis)
Entertainment (false reality)
Advertising ( brainwashing you too need all these things, including eating the foods they force into your bodies)
The greatest deception of them all. Is money ( a material that we use for survival)

Research food labeling. Look at the symbolism. Look at the ingredients. Look at your doctor checkups what they put into your bodies. Look at what the dentists put in your mouth. Look at what you put into your mouth. Toothpaste and posion each day. You have to pay for everything in a world that was created on free energy.


The programme creates all the rasicsm, divisions, chemical imbalances in our bodies, hatred, fear.

Its why people resort to violence. People tend to think society controls crime. It does the opposite;)

[joe911]

The other thing I can't stand, is when something is shoved down my throat and I can see it's done deliberately.


That sounds soooooo funny,considering the context of this thread:rolleyes: lol

[adbasque]

Yes we can exist without society. You can't though. :) You said it yourself so your now automatically conditioned.

Go on then exist without society show me how you can exist without society :)


:rolleyes:




My behaviour is in check. As you may of noticed.

that depends where it checks.




The programme.

Is human control. The program is run by people who mastered this reality. Meaning that this world has been run by these illuminated masters since the beginning of man. They evolved and led. While nature determines the rest to follow. There are two types of people. It's hardwired in our own DNA. leaders and followers. Human beings are naturally lazy life forms. We will follow any kind of system. We are one of the most reactive, gullible and predictable species on the planet, yet being labeled as the most intelligent.


There has been world changes every few thousands years. This ascension allowed some people to survive where others to fall. Survival of the fittest. These people have all the knowledge of the last 200, 000 years stored with them.

We the nomads of this world, followed their system. They hold all the power on the planet. To the point we live their version of reality. The knowledge is kept secret from us. They operate the planet as you know it to be.


What they know is another matter;)

What type of programming is involved. Ok.

MMR jabs, vasccinations, mercury
Flouridization of our water
Relgous structure ( created by them)
School system ( right brain, conformists info hypnosis)
T.V (daily hypnosis)
Entertainment (false reality)
Advertising ( brainwashing you too need all these things, including eating the foods they force into your bodies)
The greatest deception of them all. Is money ( a material that we use for survival)

Research food labeling. Look at the symbolism. Look at the ingredients. Look at your doctor checkups what they put into your bodies. Look at what the dentists put in your mouth. Look at what you put into your mouth. Toothpaste and posion each day. You have to pay for everything in a world that was created on free energy.


The programme creates all the rasicsm, divisions, chemical imbalances in our bodies, hatred, fear.

Its why people resort to violence. People tend to think society controls crime. It does the opposite;)

And you've only discovered this then?
Do you honestly think that you're the only one here who's aware of what you just mentioned above?

Let me explain some facts to you, I knew this as I always said since I was 15 years old.

I knew you're new to this, that's why you keep on and on and on, not because people aren't talking about it means they don't know, If you look at my threads I created you'll see I have covered most of the the programming.

Did you get rid of your TV?
Well I got ird of it almost 4 years now.

Don't come here and talk about something that's been discussed and dusted.
This is called the bleeding obvious.

As for society, no matter where you live, you will have to obey rules, even if you live alone in the wild, that's the conditioning I am talking about, unless of course you can't see it.

Life itself is a set of conditions my big man :)

Face reality as you keep calling it, conditioning doesn't always mean bad thing, you need rules to survive, you're not in control of this universe, nor this planet as a living creature you either submit to the laws of the creation or you perish it's your choice. and please next time think before you talk nonsense.

If I were you I'll seek some wisdom you'll need it, from what I see, it's not a criticism though it's an observation.

To start be a little humble and less arrogant, never underestimate anyone.
Which at the moment you believe everyone on this forum is an ignorant of the "reality", I can tell from your arguments, you most definitely read some of DI stuff and only recently.

[adbasque]

That sounds soooooo funny,considering the context of this thread:rolleyes: lol

What is sooooooooo funny Joe911? lol

[joe911]

What is sooooooooo funny Joe911? lol

You said "you dont want it shoving down your throat":D:p:rolleyes:

[hunkahunka]

You should be also banned for describing homosexuality as flith, I would abominate you from this planet for saying that, . Gay people as much as you seem to have issues with them, are human beings. "they are not just homosexuals over there in a category"
They are fucking human beings. Why do people in 2009 still act so myopic.


your substitution of emotion for logical argument is uncalled for, and imo, you have no right to demand that others freedom of speech be banned while indulging your own emotional hysterics .

Since when is it ok to declare a prejudice? Homosexuals declare a prejudice when they label themselves homosexual.
Think about what the term homo-sexual means. It means that the person declaring his or her sexuality is declaring themselves permanently
dis-interested in sex with half the human race.

A young man encouraged to 'come out' as homosexual , is being asked to make a pretty bold statement, or vow, that he will never have sex with females.

A young woman encouraged to 'come out' as lesbian, is being asked to make a pretty bold statement, or vow, that she will never have sex with males.

Now, imagine some other categories that could be created along the same lines for a moment, to see how absurd this process of indoctrination and labeling really is:

A young oriental woman is encouraged to 'come out', and declare herself
'asianosexual', and is being asked to make a pretty bold statement , or vow, that she will never have sex with anything other than asians/orientals. She knows this, but goes ahead and
does it, because she has never had sex with anyone else but asians. Even her own finger is
oriental in nature, and yes, only asians enter her fantasy world and desires. She feels she was
born asianosexual, and is encouraged to just go for the gusto and 'come out'.
When she does so, she is applauded, and the asianosexual lobby group that recruited and trained her from a young age applies to the city for a parade grant . The city gleefully complies, and declares 'Asianosexual Pride Week '. She is made queen of the parade, and boldly
takes the lead float with her overtly asianosexual boyfriend openly embracing her. The largely asian crowd cheers her on, some moved to tears at her courage.
Then they begin teaching it in schools to young kids, that if you are attracted to one particular race , in fact only one, then that is okay. You should be PROUD. You should even join the discussion group where asianosexuals can speak to young asian people who think they too may be asianosexual, and encourage them to express their fears and dislikes of the other races, but most of all, to express their love of their own asian kind, and how its permanent, a part of how they were born, and how asianosexualism used to be discouraged, but now the wonderful diversity rainbow of enlightenment embraces all fish proclivities, etc.

So what will you say to that , other than that my freedom of speech should be banned?

That there is no such thing as an asianosexual? prove it. There are millions upon millions
of asians who have never desired nor had sex with anything other than asians, and will
openly state that they prefer sex with asians.

How dare you even try to deny the existence of asianosexuality, btw? You are trying to
deny its existence, because you hate asianosexuals, which is thought crime. Don't you? You haven't come right out and said it, but I am just using you as an example to show everyone that I know what you are thinking before you even have to say it. That is how clever and advanced that I am in my thinking. ( I went to university to be able to do this, so don't be jealous that you have.no education, btw)

back to berating to you for anti-asianosexual bigotries:

what have you got against asianosexuals, btw? Maybe you should learn to respect
diversity. Maybe you are a secret raceosexual yourself, and you can't face it ,
so you take it out on the poor asianosexual, trans-negrosexual, and bi-mulatto
transgendered vegetarian community, hmm? hmmmm? come on out and admit it,

blah blah blah blah

[adbasque]

You said "you dont want it shoving down your throat":D:p:rolleyes:

:D yes literally lol

[adbasque]

I don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do to each other.

I do have a problem with it being forced on impressionable children in primary school.

I have two small kids, both in primary school, and i don't need & don't want them being told that being gay is perfectly normal.

Face the facts, if it was perfectly normal, then those 2 small kids wouldn't exist.

That is exactly my point too, some people have real difficulties in grasping this distinction, as you said what two or 20 adults do between them, it's their problem, but I do not want my kids to be exposed first at any form of sexuality at school or in any other environment, i.e TV, books and so on.

[mind1universe]

What was shoved down his throat???


He seems to talk about it alot. I mean I am seriously lost as to what hes talking about. Bitching and moaning about it all the time. I don't get it.


Adbasque you can't be older than 20. They way you go on is just hilarious. Bitching bitching about nothing.

[adbasque]

That is another stupid assertion.:rolleyes:

Before you dig deeper into your own hole.
Answer me this.

Define normal. And whats normal.
Define whats "perfectly normal"

And if homosexulity is not normal, then why does Nature allow it. Stop the bullshit.

I honestly don't know if I have to answer this at all
Nature allows a lot of things

Nature allows killing too, does that make it ok?
Nature allows paedophilia does that make it ok?

I am not saying Homosexuality is the same as the two above, but just to show that your argument is worthless.
I don't believe that you actually think before your type anything.
Whatever comes to your mind you spout it.

[mind1universe]

your substitution of emotion for logical argument is uncalled for, and imo, you have no right to demand that others freedom of speech be banned while indulging your own emotional hysterics .



Its not emotion, get off that crap please. His behaviour is not acceptable. There comes a responsibility with free speech. And he crossed that line.

It was not acceptable. So stop making excuses and finsihing your sentences with balony!



Since when is it ok to declare a prejudice? Homosexuals declare a prejudice when they label themselves homosexual.

Said whom. Homosexual is a very accepted and respected word. Been called queer isn't. Don't start the crap. It's like saying black people get offended for been called black. Its not even an issue.


Think about what the term homo-sexual means. It means that the person declaring his or her sexuality is declaring themselves permanently
dis-interested in sex with half the human race. Whatever...

A young man encouraged to 'come out' as homosexual , is being asked to make a pretty bold statement, or vow, that he will never have sex with females.

A young woman encouraged to 'come out' as lesbian, is being asked to make a pretty bold statement, or vow, that she will never have sex with males.

You do alot of waffling.



Now, imagine some other categories that could be created along the same lines for a moment, to see how absurd this process of indoctrination and labeling really is:

a young oriental woman is encouraged to 'come out', and declare herself
'asianosexual', and is being asked to make a pretty bold statement , or vow, that she will never have sex with anything other than asians/orientals.
When she does so, she is applauded, and the asianosexual lobby group that recruited and trained her from a young age applies to the city for a parade grant . The city gleefully complies, and declares 'Asianosexual Pride Week '.
Then they begin teaching it in schools to young kids, that if you are attracted to one particular race , in fact only one, then that is okay. You should be PROUD. You should even join the discussion group where asianosexuals can speak to young asian people who think they may be asianosexual, and encourage them to express their fears and dislikes of the other races, but most of all their love of their own asian kind, and how its permanent, a part of how they were born, and how asianosexualism used to be discouraged, but now the wonderful diversity rainbow of enlightenmend embraces all fish proclivities, etc.

An anthill is an antill, stop making mountains out of it.



So what will you say that , other than that my freedom of speech should be banned? Its not freedom of speech. If you have offended people and used derogetory statements you should be penalised for it. We are supposed to be adults. Not children.


that there is no such thing as an asianosexual? prove it. There are millions upon millions
of asians who have never desired nor had sex with anything other than asians, and will
openly state that they prefer sex with asians.

How dare you even try to deny the existence of asianosexuality, btw? You haven't come right out and said it, but I am just using you as an example to show everyone that I know what you are thinking before you even have to say it. That is how clever and advanced that I am in my thinking. ( I went to university to be able to do this, so don't be jealous that you have.no education, btw)

back to berating to you for anti-asianosexual bigotries:

what have you got against asianosexuals, btw? Maybe you should learn to respect
diversity. Maybe you are secret a raceosexual yourself, and you can't face it ,
so you take it out on the poor asianosexual, trans-negrosexual, and bi-mulatto
transgendered vegetarian community, hmm? hmmmm? come on out and admit it,

blah blah blah blah
Your great with elaborating on bullshit.


You need to grow up.

[mind1universe]

I honestly don't know if I have to answer this at all
Nature allows a lot of things

Nature allows killing too, does that make it ok?
Nature allows paedophilia does that make it ok?

I am not saying Homosexuality is the same as the two above, but just to show that your argument is worthless.
I don't believe that you actually think before your type anything.
Whatever comes to your mind you spout it.


Nature gave us responsibility too.

We Mankind take advantage of our power, and create paedophillia, crime, hatred, abuse etc etc.


Homosexual occurs naturally in nature. It occurs in Animals. It occurs for very good reasons. From a universal perspective, there is no actual female - male. It is just a polarisation or a separation in a way. It goes way beyond the black and white society your all brainwashed by.

Every human being has male/female components within them.

We live in a delusional society where we repress this nature. We act by regulations and standards layed by society. For example Woman have long hair men have short hair. This is the norms.


When you de program this reality. Like you will hopefully do soon enough:)

You will understand that everything is not black and white. Nature is there. People are moronic. Nature will look after the universe. It's time for you to accept others and accept they are things that are not accepted in society.


No one is shoving anything down your throat. You haven't given any examples.


I gave you examples of where society drills shit into peoples head. You seem to ignore this, and get all hot tempered over this.


It touches your personal buttons;) Triggering issues? much;)

[joe911]

asianosexual???
Maybe thats just preference,,or the fact that if you are an inhabitant of asia,living in a city full of asian people,chances are that you will end up with an asian partner.

im a sixfootblondehairblueeyesosexual ;)

[adbasque]

What was shoved down his throat???


He seems to talk about it alot. I mean I am seriously lost as to what hes talking about. Bitching and moaning about it all the time. I don't get it.


Adbasque you can't be older than 20. They way you go on is just hilarious. Bitching bitching about nothing.

This is the second time you referred to my age, why?, If I am younger than you, you will automatically be right and undermine my arguments?

How low is this, I am not going to satisfy your curiosity.

I have told you before you are so insecure.
Read through this thread you'll see how many people you argued with.

I am not lowering my level to yours any longer.

[adbasque]

asianosexual???
Maybe thats just preference,,or the fact that if you are an inhabitant of asia,living in a city full of asian people,chances are that you will end up with an asian partner.

im a sixfootblondehairblueeyesosexual ;)

Well in this case everything is a preference mate, and I don't think he/she was talking about Asian living in Asia.

[hunkahunka]

asianosexuality exists even among chinese women and men living right here in North America or England. They are everywhere. It could be your daughter, for god's sake. Have a heart. STOP THE HATE!
The're here, they're race-queer, get used to it!
Take back the night!
What an asian does with another asian is that asians own business.

my god, do I hate haters....

blah blah blah blah

[joe911]

asianosexuality exists even among chinese women and men living right here in North America or England. They are everywhere. It could be your daughter, for god's sake. Have a heart. STOP THE HATE!
The're here, they're race-queer, get used to it!
Take back the night!
What an asian does with another asian is that asians own business.

my god, do I hate haters....

blah blah blah blah

Not my daughter,,im one of them 'queers' :D

Unless that wasnt aimed at me lol?

[adbasque]

asianosexuality exists even among chinese women and men living right here in North America or England. They are everywhere. It could be your daughter, for god's sake. Have a heart. STOP THE HATE!
The're here, they're race-queer, get used to it!
Take back the night!
What an asian does with another asian is that asians own business.

my god, do I hate haters....

blah blah blah blah

Yes some Asians don't like to mix, like any other origins, blacks, indians, whites etc..

Exactly what two people do in their own private lives, it's their business, regardless of their preferences or sexual orientations.

The only thing I have a problem is when they imposing it on other people.
You want to be homosexual go ahead, you want to be heterosexual same thing, bisexual same thing, asexual even it's your problem.

[hunkahunka]

The only thing I have a problem is when they imposing it on other people.
You want to be homosexual go ahead, you want to be heterosexual same thing, bisexual same thing, asexual even it's your problem.

I was being sarcastic. A black woman declaring herself a permanent, born negrosexual would be called a racist.
But a woman declaring a permanent aversion to men is told that she is some kind of hero.

I agree with you there. But society is doing the opposite. The rich have decided that machines and computers have made people expendable. To reduce the birth rate, the rich are pushing homosexuality as hard as they can, on the young especially. Their greatest gains have been made, imo, in swelling the lesbian numbers through pushing the cult of radical feminism on very young women, and inserting their ideology and propaganda into popular culture in things like sitcoms, music, reality shows etc.

[adbasque]

I was being sarcastic. A black woman declaring herself a permanent, born negrosexual would be called a racist.
But a woman declaring a permanent aversion to men is told that she is some kind of hero.

I agree with you there. But society is doing the opposite. The rich have decided that machines and computers have made people expendable. To reduce the birth rate, the rich are pushing homosexuality as hard as they can, on the young especially. Their greatest gains have been made, imo, in swelling the lesbian numbers through pushing the cult of radical feminism on very young women, and inserting their ideology and propaganda into popular culture in things like sitcoms, music, reality shows etc.

Absolutely, there is a huge agenda that's been pumped into society, just a small example.

When Madonna kissed I think it was Britney Spears and another Girl on stage, you think that wasn't planned?
It was done deliberately, and there's nobody out there who's been used to push this agenda more than these so called celebrities. ;)
And when you try and explain this to some people, they think, you're just being a homophobe or whatever word they can get their hands on.

It is a bloody fact!!.

[dogsmilk]

Absolutely, there is a huge agenda that's been pumped into society, just a small example.

When Madonna kissed I think it was Britney Spears and another Girl on stage, you think that wasn't planned?
It was done deliberately, and there's nobody out there who's been used to push this agenda more than these so called celebrities. ;)
And when you try and explain this to some people, they think, you're just being a homophobe or whatever word they can get their hands on.

It is a bloody fact!!.

It'd be done deliberately because it was saucy and provocative and is the sort of thing that causes lame controversy that sells records, partly by winding up the sort of people who think two women kissing is all wrong and stuff.
In the meantime, though I'm personally not fond of their music, here's a fantastic old album cover for the forum's gay users (and AC/DC fans!) to enjoy that kinda outdoes anything Madonna has ever managed.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/f89c79ccf0455f21c3db7fd9af909183/132068.jpg

[revolutionary_jam]

nice to see biggotry and homophobia is still alive and well amongst the new age and conspiracy theorists ;-)

[revolutionary_jam]

When Madonna kissed I think it was Britney Spears and another Girl on stage, you think that wasn't planned?actually it was an occult ritual whereby Madonna passed on the mantle to Britney and Christina

[meksar]

In a Zionist run society things like the truth have become a taboo subject, you do not go there as it is "evil", but yet they will have all of this gay pride parades. They know that for example in the black community homosexuality is not cool, so they make sure all the black leaders and celebrities are a bunch of closet flamers and lesbians. I understand that people have brainwashed by N.W.O propaganda(Zeitgeist) to see the bible as 100% bad, but yet people like David will quote the bible when it suits him (to give further proof of reptilians existing).

[revolutionary_jam]

look in Ancient Greece bisexuality was commonplace because it was not taboo
you guys need to study some psychology and see what happens when you repress what is essentially an instinct which comes naturally to some people, there is a lot of good data and info on this!
What a surprise you might find it that males like coming, so do females, and they'll come in all sorts of ways, indeed any ways they find pleasurable that they do not perceive as taboo!
there's nothing really abnormal about this, homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom as well, and dogs try to hump legs, gaps in benches, anything!

I wonder if this foolish squeamishness comes from some sort of repression!
I'm not personally bisexual but if I was I'd be delighted at having twice as good a shot of finding a date :-P

[hunkahunka]

there's nothing really abnormal about this, homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom as well, and dogs try to hump legs, gaps in benches, anything!


I would say that sexuality in general occurs in animals, sometimes even bisexuality. Very very rarely homosexuality.

Homosexuality amounts to a complete sexual shunning of the opposite sex, which to me speaks more of a mental illness or disorder than anything else,
and therefore it is extremely rare among animals, and even quite rare among humans. About 2% of American society are homosexual, and it is even more rare elsewhere.

[adbasque]

look in Ancient Greece bisexuality was commonplace because it was not taboo
you guys need to study some psychology and see what happens when you repress what is essentially an instinct which comes naturally to some people, there is a lot of good data and info on this!


Oh it's ok then whatever the Greeks were doing must be good, right?
the Greeks were practicing pederasty too, should we?
after all the almighty Greeks thought it was a good thing so we should follow what the Greeks were doing, no questions asked, they surely know best.


What a surprise you might find it that males like coming, so do females, and they'll come in all sorts of ways, indeed any ways they find pleasurable that they do not perceive as taboo!

Basically if anyone speaks about something that is wrong, is now a taboo, or a bigot.
I wonder what is it you people believe that the Elite's are doing bad, you seem to agree with them on everything they promote absolutely everything and yet you are on forums like this one, thinking you understand what's going on and all the manipulation that is going on, I would like to see this manipulation, or is it just the Banks screwing you up and some wars all over the place? the real war is on you.


there's nothing really abnormal about this, homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom as well, and dogs try to hump legs, gaps in benches, anything!

I wonder if this foolish squeamishness comes from some sort of repression!
I'm not personally bisexual but if I was I'd be delighted at having twice as good a shot of finding a date :-P

So you consider yourself as an animal?
I thought an animal followed his instincts, a dog humps another dog it's nothing but a domination thing, when he wants to have proper sex he goes for a female.

And he is an animal he doesn't have your intelligence to assess properly, now if you can't see what's wrong with it.

What about encouraging people to go with the same sex instead of opposite sex?
What about that way it will help them in their depopulation programme?

What about breakage of families?
What about the destruction of all that is valuable?
What about of a total control?

Above all if it's a such a good thing, and we know this Elite is up to no good, why suddenly what they are doing is a such a good thing?

A change of heart?

People are very quick at using the word, bigotry, homophobia, and taboo.

Geez..

[adbasque]

In a Zionist run society things like the truth have become a taboo subject, you do not go there as it is "evil", but yet they will have all of this gay pride parades. They know that for example in the black community homosexuality is not cool, so they make sure all the black leaders and celebrities are a bunch of closet flamers and lesbians. I understand that people have brainwashed by N.W.O propaganda(Zeitgeist) to see the bible as 100% bad, but yet people like David will quote the bible when it suits him (to give further proof of reptilians existing).

Spot on man, and the use of double standard, and lots of hypocrisy is used nowdays, people would do anything to get out of the situation and to push their agenda an inche further in anything goes society.

[revolutionary_jam]

The human consciousness is still recovering from the perversities of victorianism and the permissive society you see today is a backlash to all that which is completely necessary if things are going to even out and become normal again

if you try to "fix" someone for being homosexual against their will you ARE the NWO.
the NWO is an outward manifestation of the controlling part of the human unconscious
If you try to control others you are contributing to that energy and helping to manifesting the NWO
If you want to get rid of the NWO drop your judgements and become loving, it's that simple.

[eternal_spirit]

This thread is bullshit.

There is no gay Zionist agenda.
Stop your hate campaign against people who have no beef with you. They do you no harm.

[revolutionary_jam]

I wonder what is it you people believe that the Elite's are doing badYou are the elite every time you shop at Walmart, stop looking for the problem somewhere outside yourself and face the goddamn truth, they aren't doing ANYTHING that we aren't LETTING them do. I would rather there weren't starving people and rainforests being cut down and foreign interventions and wars, etc. but those are jobs for the whole of society to fix, I'm working on myself and my immediate environment because that is actually a one man job. I suggest you do the same.

If you think the family is the ultimate social unit for everyone the burden of proof is on you to show that that is true. I believe that each person has the autonomy to choose what sort of lifestyle is best for them provided they don't seek to harm others in that autonomy. You will find a lot of people are suited to different lifestyles from oneanother and this is because the world is ephemeral, intangible and always changing, and so it the human consciousness.I would say that sexuality in general occurs in animals, sometimes even bisexuality. Very very rarely homosexuality.You can say what you wish but you are in error, it is not very rare at all, a friend of mine wrote her dissertation on it. There are gays and even lesbian animals.Oh it's ok then whatever the Greeks were doing must be good, right?no you miss the point, the point is that it was done because there were no taboos against it. people would do anything to get out of the situation and to push their agenda an inche further in anything goes society.Yes exactly, and you are pushing your anti-gay agenda in the same way. Anyway how do you know it's not the anti-gay agenda which is the neo-con one? there are plenty of anti-gay activists and broadly speaking they tend to be very hateful, holding up signs that say "god hates fags" and "HIV was sent to punish gays" Ever heard of divide and conquer?

[hunkahunka]

Don't forget either that ancient Greek society was largely a slave society, where the rich literally owned slaves, and some of them owned virtual armies
of slaves. The Greeks sexual 'ownership' of slaves is something that is rarely
discussed, but it is well known that control of the major drives, ie: the hunger drive and the sex drive were and are utilized in conditioning a slave. Access to food was controlled and the sex drive was often used to 'break' slaves. What is a BDSM 'dungeon' really, other than a torture chamber whereby a 'master' can thoroughly take ownership of a person, through a combination of extreme pain and sexual domination. The slave can be made to become addicted to the combination of endorphins , adrenaline, and of course , sexual release, that is experienced during these sessions.
Rich greeks had homosexual servants (slaves), even a lot of them eunuchs, children or adolescents, and they had the process of creating zombie slaves through torture and sexual abuse down to a fine art. A lot of the hermetic occult societies operating today engage in slave practices that date back to ancient egypt and greece.

So now do you see why the rich in the West want a return to Greek society?
They want slaves. They want cities full of slaves, eunuchs, and meek subservients addicted to the abuse they give them.

The illuminati is planning on a return to slave society, which is why they are also taking control of the food supply.
What is the best way to domesticate an animal? Feed it. But first that animal has to have no access to food via any other means.

To domesticate humanity into virtual slavery, you take away his access to food and sex, control his every move, punish him when he complains,
and coax him into the torture stall with food before working him to death.

BDSM is whips and chains for a reason. You use chains on the horse or mule or ox that pulls your plough, and when it tries to rest or struggle, you whip it with leather chains. When the animal begins to reach its useful end , it is time to kill it and eat it, or feed it to the other animals that you own.

This is humanities future if we do not wake up.
These people are cannibals, and vampires.

[revolutionary_jam]

They want slaves. They want cities full of slavesThey already have cities full of slaves, they're called "consumers".

[adbasque]

You are the elite every time you shop at Walmart, stop looking for the problem somewhere outside yourself and face the goddamn truth, they aren't doing ANYTHING that we aren't LETTING them do. I would rather there weren't starving people and rainforests being cut down and foreign interventions and wars, etc. but those are jobs for the whole of society to fix, I'm working on myself and my immediate environment because that is actually a one man job. I suggest you do the same.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that I am not concerned with homosexuals, how many times do I have to say it?
What people do in their own lives it's no concern of mine, I am merely talking about the agenda, so does this thread, there IS an agenda no matter how much you want to brush it under the rug, there's an agenda man.
By the way I don't shop at Wal-Mart lol.



If you think the family is the ultimate social unit for everyone the burden of proof is on you to show that that is true. I believe that each person has the autonomy to choose what sort of lifestyle is best for them provided they don't seek to harm others in that autonomy. You will find a lot of people are suited to different lifestyles from oneanother and this is because the world is ephemeral, intangible and always changing, and so it the human consciousness.

There's no burden, but if we all follow this philosophy our world be extinct in less than a 100 years.


You can say what you wish but you are in error, it is not very rare at all, a friend of mine wrote her dissertation on it. There are gays and even lesbian animals.no you miss the point, the point is that it was done because there were no taboos against it.

There were no taboos because they got rid of them as they are doing today, the powerful and the rich, got rid of the taboos.
What you call taboo, others call it moral value, so it depends on which bench you sit on.


Yes exactly, and you are pushing your anti-gay agenda in the same way. Anyway how do you know it's not the anti-gay agenda which is the neo-con one? there are plenty of anti-gay activists and broadly speaking they tend to be very hateful, holding up signs that say "god hates fags" and "HIV was sent to punish gays" Ever heard of divide and conquer?

I am not pushing anti-Homosexuals agenda, I am attacking the agenda behind homosexuality, not homosexuals themselves.

This is a lower level of the real thing, that you are describing.
the neo-con are part of the upper level of control, it's amind control.

They've always done things in the same way with the same pattern.

Remember back in the 20s and 30s the selling of Spirits was illegal, wars were fought over it, why? because one hand is pushing the agenda, the other hand is suppressing, until there's an implosion within the society, then they legalise it, allow it, protect it, defend it, and promote it.

This was done for gambling too, so don't tell me there's no agenda, some people can see further than just the immediate problem.

problem reaction solution, the same pattern over and over.
with different colours.

you can deny it as much as you like but the agenda does exist and it's being pushed further and further into our minds, we become the sheep that can't say no, or you're labelled.

Now it's a taboo to speak against homosexuality, or anything closer.

I am speaking against the war led against us, from every angle, homosexuality is just one aspect of the big picture.

It's not because there are other problems we need to deal with it means we need to ignore the others.

that's all

[revolutionary_jam]

thanks for kind post above ^ will respond in detail tomorrow

[adbasque]

Don't forget either that ancient Greek society was largely a slave society, where the rich literally owned slaves, and some of them owned virtual armies of slaves.

Absolutely, and not just the Greeks, the Romans too, but of course, nowdays when they want something to be fashionable, look at the Greeks, what are the Greeks? super humans? most of their civilisation is based on myths, I live in a real world not with myths.

Anyway homosexuality was used then by the Greeks, by the rich and powerful just like it is today.


The Greeks sexual 'ownership' of slaves is something that is rarely
discussed, but it is well known that control of the major drives, ie: the hunger drive and the sex drive were and are utilized in conditioning a slave. Access to food was controlled and the sex drive was often used to 'break' slaves. What is a BDSM 'dungeon' really, other than a torture chamber whereby a 'master' can thoroughly take ownership of a person, through a combination of extreme pain and sexual domination.

Indeed that is exactly what it comes down, a lot of people are impressed by the Greeks and what they've done, yes they had a civilisation but it wasn't all that wonderful, a lof crap init.



The slave can be made to become addicted to the combination of endorphins , adrenaline, and of course , sexual release, that is experienced during these sessions.

Exactly what it is.


Rich greeks had homosexual servants (slaves), even a lot of them eunuchs, children or adolescents, and they had the process of creating zombie slaves through torture and sexual abuse down to a fine art. A lot of the hermetic occult societies operating today engage in slave practices that date back to ancient egypt and greece.

Just check the words we use today they all from the Greeks, like they never discuss pederasty, and soon, it will be tolerated and accepted in this society of ours very soon.


So now do you see why the rich in the West want a return to Greek society?
They want slaves. They want cities full of slaves, eunuchs, and meek subservients addicted to the abuse they give them.

Unfortunately not just in the west this time around, they are doing it on a global level because technology can allow it, to be done easily and effortlessly.


The illuminati is planning on a return to slave society, which is why they are also taking control of the food supply.
What is the best way to domesticate an animal? Feed it. But first that animal has to have no access to food via any other means.

Spot on :)


To domesticate humanity into virtual slavery, you take away his access to food and sex, control his every move, punish him when he complains,
and coax him into the torture stall with food before working him to death.

They even run test in labs on animals and study animal behaviour, before trying them on us.
That's a fact!


BDSM is whips and chains for a reason. You use chains on the horse or mule or ox that pulls your plough, and when it tries to rest or struggle, you whip it with leather chains. When the animal begins to reach its useful end , it is time to kill it and eat it, or feed it to the other animals that you own.

This is humanities future if we do not wake up.
These people are cannibals, and vampires.

They are ruthless beings I don't like to use humans, because they are evil they don't behave like humans, so just beings of a ruthless nature, they love and enjoy inflicting pain and suffering.

If people think they have deprogrammed themselves then I suggest they double check.
They always misuse the word "Love" always, to poke our inner emotional state, to react to something they want to introduce with kindness ;)

Love one another be homosexuals, it's natural, shag each other, don't reproduce, break this stupid idea of a family ties, that way we can have access to each one of you individually and quite easily.

If a child is protected by his parents, let's first discredit the parents so we can have access to their children.
and so on etc etc etc the programme is endless..

[hunkahunka]

They already have cities full of slaves, they're called "consumers".

yes, consumers who have unions and families. Consumers who join the company when they are 20 with one child , and come back to head office ten years later threatening strike action because they are looking for enough money to feed the four more children that they now have.

Employees with kids and balls and unions are expensive.

This is why the Rockefellers and Walmart force a one child policy on the their slaves in China, and why they want America gay. They don't want a one-child policy for America. They want a NO-CHILD policy.

They want gay slave Americans who can be paid even less than those one-child families in China. Who can be paid with FOOD alone.

The same people who own Walmart will eventually have monopoly over all merchandise/food retailing in most of the world.

[hunkahunka]

They even run test in labs on animals and study animal behaviour, before trying them on us.
That's a fact!


one of their biggest test labs is China. They run tests on the Chinese, and study Chinese behavior , before trying them on us.

Do you know that the Rockefellers funded Mao, and the first thing that Mao did was cause a famine?

And after a decade of starvation, the Chinese went to work in the slave factories just to survive.

remember this part?
How do you domesticate an animal? Feed it. But first that animal has to have no access to food via any other means.

[adbasque]

one of their biggest test labs is China. They run tests on the Chinese, and study Chinese behavior , before trying them on us.

Do you know that the Rockefellers funded Mao, and the first thing that Mao did was cause a famine?

And after a decade of starvation, the Chinese went to work in the slave factories just to survive.

remember this part?

Exactly..
What is surprising however, people all talk about the PTB, about the programming, when you start showing parts of the programming or exposing agendas, then you get objections from all sides,

Feminist agenda (does that mean I don't like women?)
But nevertheless there's a sponsored and funded agenda behind to break society.

The same applies to most agendas our there, it doesn't mean I am against the individuals themselves, but against what's been forced down our throats, backed with taboos, if you dare speak against it you are labelled.

The real dividers it's them
The real hateful it's them


You would probably hate your doctor who tells you if you keep drinking you will die soon, because it's not what you want to hear, because you like the drinking.

And the guy who buys you drink after drink, you will enjoy talking to him/her, because he/she is killing you but he/she is nice to you.

[hunkahunka]

exactly, criticize the rich zionist bankers that are screwing up everyone's lives/families and you hate all jews

criticize the zionist-funded lesbians who fanatically push radical feminism and man-hatred, and you hate all women.

criticize zionist-puppet Obama, you hate all blacks

criticize the gay agenda, you hate all gays

All of it reinforced through the electronic religion of television and the temple Cinegogue Multiplex.

[hunkahunka]

video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3833110324043445440

[lightworks]

interesting

[mind1universe]

Still feeding this?


Awareness?

Dvisoness, still a fad diet?


Trying to remember?
Where it all all began?
She got herself a little piece of heaven
Waiting for the time when Earth shall be as one


Is it still a time for division?

Sort your issues people. Your showing it yourself. Stop blaming others. Take self responsibility.

[mind1universe]

Society was never destined to see all colours.

Society was destined to control what they want to see.


Adbasque what is your argument again?

[hunkahunka]

Still feeding this?


you are still feeding this. You are every bit as intolerant of
others as you accuse others of being.

[adbasque]

Society was never destined to see all colours.

Society was destined to control what they want to see.


Adbasque what is your argument again?

What is your definition of society please?

[joe911]

Wow 16 pages allready!:eek:

Come on folks,we can do better than this,,lets get this up to a 200 page MJ style thread;)

[adbasque]

Wow 16 pages allready!:eek:

Come on folks,we can do better than this,,lets get this up to a 200 page MJ style thread;)

Well one page at a time Joe911 lol
don't worry we will get there :D

[mind1universe]

What is your definition of society please?


false reality.

[joe911]

BUMP!

I want to see this baby at 200+ pages :D

[hunkahunka]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32252131/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Machine gun attack on Jewish lesbian gay youth event in Israel


2 killed as gunman mows down youths in Tel Aviv gay center
By YAAKOV LAPPIN


Two people were killed on Saturday night and several others were wounded when a gunman burst into a lesbian gay community center in the heart of Tel Aviv and opened fire with a machine gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-0BG2uBqM

The bodies of the two lesbians were found in the center by paramedics, while the injured were rushed to the Sourasky Medical Center (Ichilov Hospital) in Tel Aviv. Two victims were listed in critical condition, while three additional people were moderately hurt, Magen David Adom paramedics said. Several others were lightly wounded in the attack.

The dead were identified by Israel Radio as a 17-year-old lesbian from Holon and a 24-year-old staffer from Givatayim.

Police launched a massive manhunt for the perpetrator, who according to eyewitnesses was dressed in black. Large numbers of emergency vehicles converged on the scene, and patrol cars could be seen scouring the area for the gunman. A police crime scene investigation unit gathered evidence from the scene and a gag order was later placed on the details of the investigation.

Hundreds of local residents gathered around police lines, and tearful gay lesbians wandered around the scene looking traumatized.

Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch said police had stepped up security around other gay centers, public washrooms, and potential targets
such as parks with good thick bushes.

"This is a most severe incident. The police are investing major resources and means to capture this murderer and his accomplices," Police Commissioner Insp.-Gen. David Cohen said, speaking from the murder scene.

"These were teenagers," Yaniv Weisman, chairman of the Israeli Gay Youth organization, told The Jerusalem Post.

With tears in his eyes, Weisman added, "Someone knew what they were doing when they came here. This is not a pub or a club."

Today, someone sent a message that Jewish teen gays in Tel Aviv and Israel are not safe in special gay organized events aimed at recruiting youths."

[Anders Lindman]

Osho said that our first stage was autosexual. Autosexual is sex with oneself. He also talked about homosexuality, not as something bad, but as an intermittent stage. :confused:

In the below painting from ancient Egypt we can see autosexuality illustrated:

http://www.antinopolis.org/hernestus/osiris-ithyphallic-geb-auto-f950.jpg

[energi]

What is wrong with your kids, seeng reality? Why cant kids be told been gay is normal. It is normal. It's not been forced. If it's been forced why don't you send them to a "straight school".... This should display just how pathetic your argument is.

If you want to go down that route of whats been forced, why does the American government force their people to go die in Iraq and Afghanistan for satanic wars:rolleyes:

You have personal issues, not the kids and the world in their view of homosexuality. I've never met one man/woman or child have this issue of force.


The system by law, has the responsiblity to make sure all people are accepted into the educational system. It is not been forced down people's neck


Your just been delusional.
Parents are just afraid their offspring will fail them/their images of success somehow, that's all. Trying to foresee the future with all the decisions they make or people to trust (esp. with regards to the school system) is not easy.

I think that people who speak about the Gay Agenda need to SPECIFY how it is carried out as opposed to spew out reactionary things driven of emotion (especially all conjecture linking gays to pedophiles and coprophagists or whatever. FFS :rolleyes:)

[tinyint]

You see they have gone too far with this stuff, i can tolerate homosexuality, hell i can even talk and share thoughts with a homosexual at a party etc. However there can be no doubt they are shoving it down peoples throats and even forcing kids to swallow their filth. If Homosexuality/lesbianism manifests to the the level they intend it to, then humanity is fucked.

Yes, I totally agree.
I can tolerate homosexuals, but my tolerance ends if they bombard us with this. Look in the media, TV is full of homosexuals, who usually advert it and sometimes I get the feeling, they consider heterosexual normal people as abnormal.

Gender Mainstreaming is a globally accepted strategy for promoting gender equality. Mainstreaming is not an end in itself but a strategy, an approach, a means to achieve the goal of gender equality. Mainstreaming involves ensuring that gender perspectives and attention to the goal of gender equality are central to all activities - policy development, research, advocacy/ dialogue, legislation, resource allocation, and planning, implementation and monitoring of programmes and projects.

Since 1997 the Assistant Secretary-General and Special Adviser to the Secretary-General on Gender Issues and the Advancement of Women has been charged with supporting and overseeing the implementation of the policy mandates. The mandate of the Special Adviser on gender mainstreaming covers the whole United Nations system, and the role of the Office of the Special Adviser (OSAGI) in this respect is, of necessity, largely a supportive and advisory one. An important additional element is monitoring and reporting on progress with gender mainstreaming. The office has two professional staff dedicated to supporting gender mainstreaming.

Read more of this sick shit and have a look around on the UN site...

http://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/gendermainstreaming.htm


I see Trojan horses.

We even have a gay Green Politician who publicly demands to decriminalize Pedophilia. How sick is that?

His name, Volker Beck
In 2003, the German Bundestag decided on his initiative that the Federal Republic of Germany will erect a national memorial in the centre of Berlin for homosexuals persecuted by the Nazi Party.

Thats what we needed, another useless death cult memorial.

In 2006, he sponsored an anti-discrimination act in civil law and at the workplace, outlawing discrimination based on race, ethnic origin, sex, sexual identity, religion, age, and disability.

Great, the minority discriminates the majority.

On 27 May 2006, Beck was attacked and injured by right wing extremists during a Gay Rights demonstration in Moscow, called Moscow Pride.[2][3] His attack as well as his participation at the Moscow Pride Festival is featured in the documentary Moscow Pride '06.
Agent Provocateur in Russia, because the Russians resist this pervert shit, they cruelly had to learn their Bolshevist/Stalin lessons.
(https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Volker_Beck).

Post Communists of the Frankfurt School, who painted themselves green.

...but the mobilization of the gay movement is the legal point of view as opposed to paedosexuality simple as plugging in equality of homo-and heterosexuality, by deleting the § 175 of the Penal Code and the rights of homosexuals can prevent the cementing of a sexual repressive climate - a requirement to one day fight for the at least partial decriminalization of paedosexuality.

Volker Beck


Lovely.

Section 175

(repealed)

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#StGBengl_000P187



See original 175 here...https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Paragraph_175


Child abuse IS THE elixir of practiced Satanism AND AS PROTECTED AS THE GOLD IN FORT KNOX: (update)

19th September 2010 by honigmann

'... There is information that the mayor of Hamburg Ole von Beust has been reported for pedophilia, which led Angela Merkel to contact Beust, in order to support him.

The former interior minister Ronald Schill had provided evidence that Beust and other politicians had sexually abused young children.

Instead of informing the public, Schill had tried to extort Beust politically.

The result is known: Schill has been thrown out; Beust confessed his homosexuality and told the press: "Schill wanted to blackmail me with his knowledge that I'm gay."

On behalf of the prosecution of a Hamburg police an operation was carried out with total surveillance, in order to prove that some politicians in Hamburg sexually abuse children.

According to police and prosecutors, the police have video files that show how the intake of young children to the politicians was made. ... The Attorney General of Hamburg was in possession of these documents by the police and did nothing. Merkel would also know this process and undertook nothing. All parties in Hamburg knew that Beust was a child molester and kept silent.

The source further says, child molesters in a federal or state government are no exception but the rule. And he asks: Who has the oversight of the children's home in Hamburg? - Justice Senator Kusch.

With whom end up complaints about the sexual abuse of children? Kusch. In 2005 a desperate mother had tried to stab Kusch, and shouted: "You killed my child!"

The result? The woman was admitted to the closed psychiatric ... Merkel also knew about it ... "(lochmann-verlag.com) http://zeitdiagnose.de/datenbank/pressemeldungen.php

http://derhonigmannsagt.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/kinderschandung-ist-das-elexier-des-praktizierten-satanismus-und-der-ist-geschutzter-als-das-gold-in-fort-knox/

We have many more of such perverts, eco terrorists, green fascists and maniacs in politics and media.

Such as this


Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit (born 4 April 1945) is a German politician, active in France and Germany. He was a student leader during the unrest of May 1968 in France and he was also known during that time as Dany le Rouge (French for "Danny the Red", because of both his politics and the color of his hair). He is currently co-president of the group European Greens–European Free Alliance in the European Parliament, becoming "Dany le Vert" (French for "Danny the Green", because of his new fight for ecology).

<...>

Allegations of paedophilia

While Fischer was more concerned with demonstrations, Cohn-Bendit worked in the Karl-Marx-Buchhandlung bookshop and ran a kindergarten (of children between five and eight years' old). Later in 2001 he was accused of paedophilia. This accusation was grounded on the following citation from his 1975 book Le Grand Bazar,[1]: "On several occasions certain kids would open my fly and start to stroke me. I reacted differently according to circumstances, but their desire posed a problem for me. I asked them: 'Why don't you play together? Why have you chosen me, and not the other kids?' But if they insisted, I caressed them still.[2][3]"

On the 31 January 2001 in the Berlin newspaper [4] published open letter to Cohn-Bendit from the former German Foreign Minister, Klaus Kinkel, demanding Cohn-Bendit clarify whether there was actual physical contact with the children. The Berliner Zeitung published Cohn-Bendit's response. He said that he was "not aware of the problem" (“das Problem nicht bewusst”). "We tried," ..."a collective discourse of a new sexual morality yet to be defined"( “in einem kollektiven Diskurs eine neue Sexualmoral zu definieren”). The reported sex scenes, were a "me-oriented self-reflection" (“ich-bezogene Selbstreflexion”). Cohn-Bendit, did not say there was no sexual contact with children. When interviewed on the 28 January 2001 by The Observer[5] Cohn-Bendit told the journalist, “I admit that what I wrote is unacceptable nowadays”.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Bendit




Is that specific enough for you?


I think that people who speak about the Gay Agenda need to SPECIFY how it is carried out as opposed to spew out reactionary things driven of emotion (especially all conjecture linking gays to pedophiles and coprophagists or whatever.

[siegfriedsassoon]

Oh look, a holocaust denier is also a homophobe. Quelle surprise.

I like the way you think that a minority group are overwhelming you with their 'bombardment' but in reality, where normal people live, it is anything but. I also like the way that you say ‘I can tolerate homosexuals’, as if you've ever met one that a: wanted to speak to you, or b: you weren't threatening with violence.

I honestly don't know where you are on a scale of humanity because seriously, you can't be that far removed from a chimpanzee.

[bendoon]

Its called a slippery slope.

Gradual erosion of moral values by propaganda.

At one time sex outside marriage was frowned upon.

Then it became acceptable, but homosexuality was frowned upon.

Then Homosexuality became acceptable, but paedophillia and beastiality were frowned upon.

Next step Paedophillia and Beastiality will be acceptable.

[siegfriedsassoon]

Its called a slippery slope.

Gradual erosion of moral values by propaganda.

At one time sex outside marriage was frowned upon.

Then it became acceptable, but homosexuality was frowned upon.

Then Homosexuality became acceptable, but paedophillia and beastiality were frowned upon.

Next step Paedophillia and Beastiality will be acceptable.

Don't talk shit. There's one thing about two adults having consensual sex and another where a child is being manipulated and sexually abused. Beastilaity is fucked up too, but it is hardly a measurement of perversion to be held up against homosexuality, despite what you think.

[bendoon]

Don't talk shit. .

I aren't the next step will be increasing calls for paedophillia to be legalised, just watch for it there have already been some efforts made.

[siegfriedsassoon]

I aren't the next step will be increasing calls for paedophillia to be legalised, just watch for it there have already been some efforts made.

Not in the UK there hasn't. I can't speak for any other country but I really doubt that government sponsored paedophilia is high up on the list of any country's 'to do' list.

[bendoon]

http://www.nambla.org/

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/11/11/16098931.html

[siegfriedsassoon]

http://www.nambla.org/

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/11/11/16098931.html

I clicked on those links like a fool. God almighty. You know what, if you link to those kind of sites you need to put a warning up. Argh.

[ladybird]

Great post, Tinyint!

Very very non pc, though.

Nevertheless, to allow oneself the luxury to speak out has become worth protecting and
must be done all the more these days.

Its called a slippery slope.

Gradual erosion of moral values by propaganda.

At one time sex outside marriage was frowned upon.

Then it became acceptable, but homosexuality was frowned upon.

Then Homosexuality became acceptable, but paedophillia and beastiality were frowned upon.

Next step Paedophillia and Beastiality will be acceptable.

That's on their agenda, yes.
And in fact the "elite" was doing all of this all of the time ....

.

[mycharona]

This is very close to being the worst thread on all of DIF. And trust me, that is quite an accomplishment.

[ladybird]

This is very close to being the worst thread on all of DIF. And trust me, that is quite an accomplishment.

Do you mean the TRUTH is so disgusting that you cannot stand it being discussed bluntly?

[mycharona]

do you mean the truth is so disgusting that you cannot stand it being discussed bluntly?

lol! Lmao!!!!

[tinyint]

Oh look, a holocaust denier is also a homophobe. Quelle surprise.

I like the way you think that a minority group are overwhelming you with their 'bombardment' but in reality, where normal people live, it is anything but. I also like the way that you say ‘I can tolerate homosexuals’, as if you've ever met one that a: wanted to speak to you, or b: you weren't threatening with violence.

I honestly don't know where you are on a scale of humanity because seriously, you can't be that far removed from a chimpanzee.

The thought police don't like facts, I have had sufficient experience with them in 40 years.

Your ad hominem and vile drivel just bounces off.

[energi]

Oh look, a holocaust denier is also a homophobe. Quelle surprise.

.
No. Tinyint is connecting dots to find a pattern - one which seems to point towards there being blackmailing, corruption and other things among the german politicians/parties mentioned in his post. The notion that sad fucks in higher ranks of politics (such as some of the persons pointed to in Tinyint's post) uses what appears to be humane changes in law [on the surface/for the general population of the country] in order to carry out some sort of end goal (one possibility being the decriminalization of pedophilia) is something I can grasp, btw.

As always, one must try to look at these things as objectively as possible in order to transcend politically motivated tension between individuals or/and smaller groups - as a gay guy myself, I've often found myself guilty of feeling personally attacked when the corruption of sinister politicians and political ORGANIZATIONS is what needs to be brought up. :o

Thank you for that post, Tiny :):cool:





Is that specific enough for you?

[energi]

Do you mean the TRUTH is so disgusting that you cannot stand it being discussed bluntly?
He might still be in shock, not coherent/calmed down enough ;)

[tinyint]

No. Tinyint is connecting dots to find a pattern - one which seems to point towards there being blackmailing, corruption and other things among the german politicians/parties mentioned in his post.

Yes, there are provable connections between organized crime, human trafficking, pedophilia and the establishment.
This rabbit hole is so unbelievable sick and deep, its breathtaking, considering the enormously evil criminal energy behind all this.
The problem and truth is, all those movements have been high jacked. The once noble motives and ideas behind some equality have been totally perverted. We see the same everywhere, Religion, Science, Society ... the list is endless and all the corrupted things are being used against us all.
Again, the agenda needs to be exposed, that there is a small bunch of evil folks, who are at war with us all.
This war is also at a spiritual level and will have consequences, for everyone of us.

The truth is, our societies are bankrupt, economically and also ethically.

What I noticed, the OP mentioned neocon-zionist agenda.

Isn't it a funny but self speaking detail that the Republicans usually will be displayed with red color, eg in election charts?

http://projects.datajamming.com/fun/10-18-10-election-spending.png

Usually red is the color of communists/socialists in the corrupt party landscape.

eg

http://www.wahlrecht.de/lexikon/bundesversammlung.png

The blue democrats come probably close to our yellow greenish corporate whores FDP.


Its funny how the perception differers depending on the country.
People should really read about the Frankfurt School and their evil master piece "Critical Theory".

Edit: Sometimes it is not easy to stay objective and calm, when reading on organized child abuse. :o

[baphomet58]

hilarious. gay agenda... a neocon agenda. LOL. It's a liberal agenda moron, which in turn is a zionist agenda, which in turn is race mixing/destruction of the white race agenda.

Homosexuality is caused by genetic abnormality.

[dollanaqua]

Is the Gay Agenda, a Zionist one ? Notice: Removal of Neocon.

Without a doubt, yes. Who own and control the media corporations that influences society so much ?

Adult Magazines (including porn), children's comic books, television companies, Hollywood, the list goes on and on...

[sxmrx]

wow. this thread is so 80's it hurts. some of you should check out the statistics of rainbow families by the way. and then go back in your safe "normal" caves and hold up your "gay agenda" shield to deflect any suggestion that you may just be small minded. jeez louise, i just remembered why i left this forum. apologies for the quality of the typing, i can only use a couple of fingers at the mo.

[lizzy]

Yes, there are provable connections between organized crime, human trafficking, pedophilia and the establishment.
This rabbit hole is so unbelievable sick and deep, its breathtaking, considering the enormously evil criminal energy behind all this.
The problem and truth is, all those movements have been high jacked. The once noble motives and ideas behind some equality have been totally perverted. We see the same everywhere, Religion, Science, Society ... the list is endless and all the corrupted things are being used against us all.
Again, the agenda needs to be exposed, that there is a small bunch of evil folks, who are at war with us all.
This war is also at a spiritual level and will have consequences, for everyone of us.

The truth is, our societies are bankrupt, economically and also ethically.

What I noticed, the OP mentioned neocon-zionist agenda.

Isn't it a funny but self speaking detail that the Republicans usually will be displayed with red color, eg in election charts?

http://projects.datajamming.com/fun/10-18-10-election-spending.png

Usually red is the color of communists/socialists in the corrupt party landscape.

eg

http://www.wahlrecht.de/lexikon/bundesversammlung.png

The blue democrats come probably close to our yellow greenish corporate whores FDP.


Its funny how the perception differers depending on the country.
People should really read about the Frankfurt School and their evil master piece "Critical Theory".

Edit: Sometimes it is not easy to stay objective and calm, when reading on organized child abuse. :o

and of course the zionist scum have been using the chemical attack on all levels to produce feminized males....theres' no escaping your facts....its' their agenda ....destroy all morality / reduce humanity.