Children as young as 12 years old allowed abortion

[cheesedanish]

Did you know in South Africa children as young as 12 years old are legally allowed to have abortions and they need not have their parents consent as it is now law. How sad is this for children to have to go through?

http://www.sabcnews.co.za/politics/parliament/0,2172,151791,00.html

[mynameis]

Population Control Agenda is at work and strong in Africa and elsewhere, expose them all.

[kooo]

Where is the parental control? The parents should be put in prison for neglect.

We have a similar problem in Britain, they allow their children to dress like hookers and wonder why they end up pregnant. I know one woman who has seven children and most of them have different fathers she was so dumb she didn't know what the word illegitimate meant, I find it sad that these people are responsible for and teaching the next generation who will grow up to be just like them or in this case the mother who couldn't keep her legs closed.

[sibe]

all state funded too, 7 kids worth of family allowance probably free rent or bare minimum paid, 2 - 3 kids should be enough for anyone especially if you can't even afford to keep them, i know a few people that churn the kids out, keeps them on the dole with all benefits, wonderful eh!!

"Where is the parental control? The parents should be put in prison for neglect." very true..

[synergy777]

personally parents should be charged if their kids have underage sex, kids should be educated better at school, they teach them about condoms, but then get blamed by parents. if sexual intercourse occurs when its under the age of national legislation/consent, so officially its a crime. if we can get charged for speeding, smoking etc, then why don't they get stern with parents? its social enginnering, let the lower classes descend into broken families, being slack/slutty, in the end they destroy eachother, the elite has less work to do.

its this double standard, people being ignorant, jumped up little hitlers, that amuses/pisses me off. the serious things they shirk, shift responsibilty, the trivial things/personal liberties, they get all uppity/moral high ground, its funny as fuck, dimwits. people are pimping their kids, while getting uppity about people burning blaze, really are entertaining these serfs, lol

[umbrex]

Did you know in South Africa children as young as 12 years old are legally allowed to have abortions and they need not have their parents consent as it is now law. How sad is this for children to have to go through?

http://www.sabcnews.co.za/politics/parliament/0,2172,151791,00.html

i'd rather see a 12 year old being able to have an abortion - or 11 year old or even 10 year old, than seeing them having their own baby..

So what if they don't need their parents consent...

[kooo]

i'd rather see a 12 year old being able to have an abortion - or 11 year old or even 10 year old, than seeing them having their own baby..

So what if they don't need their parents consent...

If they don't need their parents consent then there is no parental discipline, no discipline creates more underage pregnancies. See the connection?

[umbrex]

If they don't need their parents consent then there is no parental discipline, no discipline creates more underage pregnancies. See the connection?

where was the parental discipline in the first place ?

i believe, that if u were to get the consent of the parents, many pregnancies would not become abortions since they wouldn't find out untill it was to late.

this is my rationale

[kooo]

where was the parental discipline in the first place ?

i believe, that if u were to get the consent of the parents, many pregnancies would not become abortions since they wouldn't find out untill it was to late.

this is my rationale

If there were parental discipline 12 year olds wouldn't be out unsupervised messing around with boys in the first place. When I was that age I knew damn well that if I ever messed with boys I would be as good as dead when I got home, I feared my parents and the odd and sometimes frequent clip around the ear kept me in line and ensured I didn't end up like that old slapper with seven children by different fathers I spoke about earlier. Discipline works why do you think they use it in the army? It controls the soldiers where they do as told without question.

[umbrex]

If there were parental discipline 12 year olds wouldn't be out unsupervised messing around with boys in the first place. When I was that age I knew damn well that if I ever messed with boys I would be as good as dead when I got home, I feared my parents and the odd and sometimes frequent clip around the ear kept me in line and ensured I didn't end up like that old slapper with seven children by different fathers I spoke about earlier. Discipline works why do you think they use it in the army? It controls the soldiers where they do as told without question.

so i guess you didn't grow up in south africa where they rape babies because urban legends tell them it will cure themselves of HIV

hmmm

[kblood]

On the other hand. A 12 year old could die from giving birth... would it not be wrong to not let a 12 year old have an abortion?

[abrilliantone]

how soon we forget that everything is plan this way.

[parel]

Africa's problems are not similar in any way to those in the UK.

Yes yes... put the African parents in jail. What will become of the rest of their kids? Oh, they will be on the streets quite likely prostituting themselves for food. But hey -- AT LEAST YOU got your REVENGE on the Chavs down the road.

Makes perfect sense.

[kblood]

If you dont live in Africa I dont think it is easy to realise how it is. I know of kids getting pregnant here, and dying from it. I dont see abortion as wrong. That they get pregnant in the first place, that is what I see as a problem. I really dont understand why people think it is more important to let unborn babies, that havent even manifested in a body to live and be born into a life of misery.

I for one havent had to walk down a street and look at children that live a life of sickness and starvation, so I cant really say that I am able to understand how it is in africa. I just know that they have alot of problems there, making what we find as simple decisions here, alot more difficult.

[kooo]

so i guess you didn't grow up in south africa where they rape babies because urban legends tell them it will cure themselves of HIV

hmmm

I was referring to the problems in Britain, if you scroll up you'll see I said we have a similar underage pregnancy problem in Britain.

South Africa is a completely different subject, grown men that rape babies are paedophiles and should be killed. The parents are also at fault because they are aware of the dangers yet still leave their children unsupervised, they give birth to these kids they should take responsibility for them. Of course if a child is raped they should have an abortion, that I have no argument with, what I do have a problem with is taking away the rights of parents to be parents, but then maybe in this case the parents don't deserve any rights as they failed their children by leaving them open to be raped in the first place.

Regarding this urban legend of men raping small children to rid themselves of Aids, well this has been going on for years surely by now they must realise that raping a child doesn't cure Aids so I don't buy into that excuse, these men are paedophiles and should be shot. South Africans have a choice, they either put their children first OR men with Aids who are going to die anyway.

I knew a South African cop years ago and I know for a fact they used to 'take people out' through the night and dump their bodies in rivers, he even showed me some pictures of what they did (yes it was shocking), they could easily take out these paedophiles no problem.

[kblood]

I was referring to the problems in Britain, if you scroll up you'll see I said we have a similar underage pregnancy problem in Britain.

South Africa is a completely different subject, grown men that rape babies are paedophiles and should be killed. The parents are also at fault because they are aware of the dangers yet still leave their children unsupervised, they give birth to these kids they should take responsibility for them. Of course if a child is raped they should have an abortion, that I have no argument with, what I do have a problem with is taking away the rights of parents to be parents, but then maybe in this case the parents don't deserve any rights as they failed their children by leaving them open to be raped in the first place.

Regarding this urban legend of men raping small children to rid themselves of Aids, well this has been going on for years surely by now they must realise that raping a child doesn't cure Aids so I don't buy into that excuse, these men are paedophiles and should be shot. South Africans have a choice, they either put their children first OR men with Aids who are going to die anyway.

I knew a South African cop years ago and I know for a fact they used to 'take people out' through the night and dump their bodies in rivers, he even showed me some pictures of what they did (yes it was shocking), they could easily take out these paedophiles no problem.

I myself met a girl at the age of 5-6 who was 12-13 and beginning to learn about sex. We had sex and her mother found out. I dont know if the last part of it is just my mind torturing me, but I remember finding out that I had a cancer filled child on a hospital when I was 16-17 years old. The girl had died from giving birth I think, so only the grandmother was there, who was the mother that had found us. I had to give my consent to let him die :( She couldnt let him die, but the prospect of being put out of his misery made his eyes so bright with hope. I still regret it sometimes. I really would have liked to know him for more than 1 hour or whatever it was.

[synergy777]

parents in england are ruled by their kids, the control, respect is gone. look how the asbo generation treat the elders, 14 yr olds plus drinking, fucking etc, who would want to bring their kids up in this god forsaken place, its only going to get worse. as the asbo kids grow up, they are the next wave, the leaders of england. thats why england is fucked, becuase the kids now, under 20's are the worst ever, do you expect them to change, re-educate, nope, these are the guardians of the future, its not looking good is it.

escaping to country hamlets will not work, as the economic factors will merely make them the gated communties of the wealthy. a similar style to countries like brazil, where the elite live in their own gated, private security communites, the plebs will live in cities/towns. this is what they want, harmonisation of all economies, this globalisation can only occur if this economic realignments occurs, and it is. the credit bubble which is now popping was designed for this whole purpose, the masses swallowed, now comes the painful digestion.

factor in higher prices for everything, lower wages to keep "competitive", debt forcing the banks to lease you back your property, only the wise survive, not the strong. this is why latin, asian countries by design will be the new englands, americas. you have to look at the economic growth, demographics, new business investment, the futures in the east, western business elite are flocking there, why?

[kooo]

parents in england are ruled by their kids, the control, respect is gone. look how the asbo generation treat the elders, 14 yr olds plus drinking, fucking etc, who would want to bring their kids up in this god forsaken place, its only going to get worse. as the asbo kids grow up, they are the next wave, the leaders of england. thats why england is fucked, becuase the kids now, under 20's are the worst ever, do you expect them to change, re-educate, nope, these are the guardians of the future, its not looking good is it.

escaping to country hamlets will not work, as the economic factors will merely make them the gated communties of the wealthy. a similar style to countries like brazil, where the elite live in their own gated, private security communites, the plebs will live in cities/towns. this is what they want, harmonisation of all economies, this globalisation can only occur if this economic realignments occurs, and it is. the credit bubble which is now popping was designed for this whole purpose, the masses swallowed, now comes the painful digestion.

factor in higher prices for everything, lower wages to keep "competitive", debt forcing the banks to lease you back your property, only the wise survive, not the strong. this is why latin, asian countries by design will be the new englands, americas. you have to look at the economic growth, demographics, new business investment, the futures in the east, western business elite are flocking there, why?

You are right and it's all the fault of liberalism, feminism and the genocide of British culture. I hate the left with a passion they have destroyed my culture, this country used to be respectable 50/60 years ago until the commies got to work. Moving to the country will work for me as I've been reducing my living costs over the last couple of years and I can now live on a lot less money, given up my car and weed and that alone has saved me a small fortune. Every year in London there are less and less English people, I will follow as soon as I can.

[synergy777]

glad we agree koo.

even the middle aged brits are losing it, the amount of mutton dressed as lamb i see out on the weekend, i mean are these mothers, divorcees, swingers etc. its digusting, at their age, 40 ish and over, they are out getting pissed, being ladette like, god forbid how their kids view this fine example of womanhood.the last 2/3 generations have assisted in the demise of this great country.

[kooo]

glad we agree koo.

even the middle aged brits are losing it, the amount of mutton dressed as lamb i see out on the weekend, i mean are these mothers, divorcees, swingers etc. its digusting, at their age, 40 ish and over, they are out getting pissed, being ladette like, god forbid how their kids view this fine example of womanhood.the last 2/3 generations have assisted in the demise of this great country.

I know, unsavoury isn't it! Did you know that sexually transmitted diseases are sky high amongst middle aged men and women? This is the problem with the breakdown of the family unit. Don't think you Asians will get away lightly, the Commies are already working on you and have made a huge difference already as half of you are prepared to marry outside your race and culture, the same is happening in the Middle East with womens rights and feminism. I even see Muslim women buying alcohol in the shops now, they try to hide it but I've seen them with my own eyes. We are all under attack.

[synergy777]

sensual fullfillment is only attractive when its elusive, hard to get. when you can have it anytime, you soon realsie its short lived euphoria, is nothing but illusion.i think my inner hippie is starting to fight against my inner gordon gecko, lol

[truthsayer]

personally parents should be charged if their kids have underage sex

I think there's a danger of generalising here.

You can educate, inform and parent, but a teenager can still get themselves in trouble, even with the best parents in the world. Its a very rebelious age and as much as I agree, parents are lacking in the ablilty to parent more so then ever, I do believe in treating everyone and every case, individually.

You can't judge everyone and situation with the same generic rule, life just isn't that black and white. Rape being a perfect example; could you still blame the parent then? No.

I believe also in pro-choice regardless of age. It would be sad to see a child forced to be a parent because of a law and generalisation forcing them to be so when they are not ready. Better they be allowed a choice, a real choice.