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soglad

03-08-2007, 06:52 AM

Anders Lindman

03-08-2007, 07:43 AM

Also, hangovers, I hate them, it's a day out of time for me, I can't do anything, at least not willingly, and I definitely can't meditate, mind is blocked.

But meditate is exactly what you can do when having a hangover. The hangover will pass away, but while there is suffering there can be what Gurdjieff called 'conscious suffering'. This is not meditation in the ordinary sense. Conscious suffering is about putting your awareness right into the body, into the suffering, and the light of your awareness will slowly but inevitably begin to transform the suffering on the physical, emotional and mental plane. Practicing conscious suffering can be done at any time, anywhere, even while puking in the toilet!

tickles

03-08-2007, 07:51 AM

Orange juice and pretend its vodka and orange. Its got sugar though. How about water and say its tequilla. Nah fuckem. Say its water cause alcohols for losers.
Or better still, stay away from pubs. Pubs are just full of drunken people talking shit. Get some acid and go on a trip.

montag

03-08-2007, 08:06 AM

G'day soglad, good move giving up alcohol, I gave up just for a month earlier this year for similar reasons to you and I felt great and lost about six kilos..
The biggest problem I found though and as you mentioned is other people looking at you like a freak when you say no to a drink, it takes a little while then they get over it..

There is a good thread here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1662) on alcohol and some tips for quiting..

Good luck with it..
Montag

majikninja23

03-08-2007, 08:21 AM

Yeah good on ya, I gave up drinking alcohol @ 7 months ago for similar reasons. I think giving up legal drugs is another good little way of sticking your fingers up at TBTB. Now when I go to the pub I ask for two bottles of non alcoholic lager poured into a pint glass, noone can tell the difference except of course me when I can hold an attentive intelligent conversation, don't make a fool of myself and wake up feeling great whilst my friends are all nursing hangovers!!
Give it up completely, it's the way forward! ;)

william_mac

03-08-2007, 08:40 AM

Well... I never like quitters. But, if you think it's not good for you, then so be it.

What you need to do is just not drink, no one will really notice. If you go to the bar and someone asks if he can buy you a drink just say "no, I'm alright" don't talk about it.

But, I don't understand not drinking. Drinking is a celebration of life. I do it all the time. I'm actually doing it rrriiigghhhttt noooowwww. Weird.

-William-Mac.com

chris

03-08-2007, 08:52 AM

Ye Will mac is right...Don't make a big thing over it and say your quitting for good...Just don't drink or have one pint and drink it throughout the night or just hold it...They too stupid to know.

I hate drinking, after I was 16 it did nothing for me, it just made before that it was fun but now it sucks...Yet everyone I know worships the stuff.

lumukanda

03-08-2007, 10:06 AM

i also stopped drinking, albeit onyl since the beginning of the week and my first weekend coming up, i've got a party on saturday night, but i'm feeling strong, it's been a long time coming, i gave up hard drugs about 2 years ago, weed about a month ago, and alcohol was the next logical step, now just to drop the smokes, after that i think i'll drop meat too, it's been a plan of mine for years now, it's only just getting to the point of fruition now.

phoenix1

03-08-2007, 10:12 AM

HI Soglad.... maybe I can come up with some good help for you ..Ive been heavily into alcohol.. I am now 10 months clean.. and I dont care who knows it either.

I failed th "test" once and passed it second time around ans have never been so powerfull inernally and esoterically in my life.. not with the potence I am feeling bieng totally of it.

Thanks Montag for throwing the alco thread back up. Gimme some time .. please though please as i'm taking a bitta downtime .. to earth out and get grounded for a while. I'll jumb back on it soon.

Quickly though... it will sever all etherical conectivity... and delude you .. if you let it ... if you deserve it... it will reveal too you. If you are not at a problen withe the entity.. you will not need to see it.

Will power is nothing... if its on your path and it has issues with you... it will tell you.

All the Love

Till I do "The Substance Addiction Thread" from direct experience of addiction..

Allt eh Love

Phoenix ( be strong on addictions, and reap the changes that come in droves!!)

pumma

03-08-2007, 01:46 PM

I've wanted to stop drinking alcohol...
So where is the barrier? Just do it!!!
The only problem is how to still go out to pubs and not drink! I'm a very social man, and like going out with various friends once or twice a week etc. meet new people. But how do I go about explaining why I'm not drinking??
Say the truth if not > you are lying to yourself... Why would you mind what other people think?
"Oh yeah, I'm not drinking because it turns people into arrogant, obnoxious idiots and clouds, their consciousness."
Alcohol destroys brain cells ... and that's not even the worst part ...
*friends walk away, awkwardly drink their pints, don't talk to me ever again*
I wouldn't call these people "friends" ...
I can only drink water or juice, but I'd get a kick in the knackers and be called gay for that.
Change place where no idiots are detected ...
Any tips??
- Get REAL freinds who will be mature enough to accept you as YOU ARE.
- Stop loosing energy of what others think of you when doing something.
- Pubs are not a positive place to hang out (my opinion)

BE who YOU ARE not what ohther people want you to be/think/do.

Have a nice day http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0050.gif

soglad

03-08-2007, 02:34 PM

Thanks for all the replies. So it seems I'm just going to have to be honest to my mates instead of going around it, I wouldn't want to lie anyways. I'll just say "No, thanks." and if they ask why I'm "Just not in the mood." then I'll probably have to say that a further 6 times.

phoenix1

03-08-2007, 02:40 PM

Hi Pumma i'd agree with most of that ... one quick thing though for those heavily in (even if they dont know so... you are allways the last to see it ok) Right.. if it really is bas DONT just stop.. you will go into ar can go into aclohilic shock.. ie fitting ok.

See the doctor.. (im speaking generallly) and get refered to a specialist detox unit. You may not like Librium and but its the smothe wat down... uponn leaving alcohol... explain to the so called friends you cannot mix with them no more.. a real friend will understand that if she or he thinks anything whatsoever about your well bieng.

I got a lot of stuff to do on alcohol.. if you dont need it ?? why bother.. Go see the world miles better.. Egypt The Movie 2 (coming up soon)

Take care of your body.. the results can be horriffic ?? how do I know ?? from experience and dead friends.

A sobering thought I hope/

All the love .Phoenix

snoopsnuffleopagus

03-08-2007, 03:03 PM

Greetings & Salutations Soglad!

It is wise of you to ponder this issue while still youthful and healthy. One of my Families business was a Bar & Restaurant that catered to the Military Industrial Complex( U.S. Navy and Major Multinational Corps).

Through observation and personal experience I have aquired insights into this matter that may be helpful.

Use, do not abuse alcohol. A few drinks actually have beneficial health effects, too many drinks will destroy your health. I myself drink till I have a pleasant 'Buzz' and stop, I no longer drink to the point of intoxication.

Many of us on this Forum probably have memories of negative experiences due to consumption of immoderate amounts of alcohol.The problems that can arise run the spectrum from Legal to moral to health and wellbeing of oneself and sometimes others.

This is your opportunity to apply self-discipline,and be an example to your friends of self-control.

Quality Beer, Wine and Hard Liquor certainly are wondeful with disciplined consumption. It is the social lubricant that oils many relationships and gatherings.

Use wisely, and enjoy!

Everything is Everything!

auron

03-08-2007, 04:49 PM

Good on ya Soglad!

I gave up completely about 4 months ago. I used to drink nearly everyday for about 5 years, until i was so pissed i would just collapse.

I feel so much better now, and I don't feel down anymore like i used to. Plus the booze makes you say some really harsh things to people. I would always get into arguments with others, and i would just look completely stupid. If i was in the pub, I'd have arguments with strangers, which sometimes got pretty nasty and i would be thrown out.

Man, booze fucks people up and really destroys your connection to the infinite. And like you say, meditation is impossible. Plus you got the hangovers to deal with.

Fuck that!!

I just stick to the herb now. And everyday feels amazing! :)

neutron flux

03-08-2007, 06:06 PM

I've wanted to stop drinking alcohol now for a while since it does nothing spiritually for me and makes me go down to the level of idiocy. Not that I'm a fool when drunk, I'm very well kept, it's just I'd be ignorant to some things I'd usually find interesting, or I might pretend to be someone I'm not, or follow along with sheeple pretending to care about the shit they say. Also, hangovers, I hate them, it's a day out of time for me, I can't do anything, at least not willingly, and I definitely can't meditate, mind is blocked. The only problem is how to still go out to pubs and not drink! I'm a very social man, and like going out with various friends once or twice a week etc. meet new people. But how do I go about explaining why I'm not drinking??

"Oh yeah, I'm not drinking because it turns people into arrogant, obnoxious idiots and clouds, their consciousness."

*friends walk away, awkwardly drink their pints, don't talk to me ever again*

I also am not taking in any sugar these day so I can get more dream clarity, so I can't buy a Coke and pretend it's Vodka & Coke. I can only drink water or juice, but I'd get a kick in the knackers and be called gay for that.

Any tips??

It seems you want tips on how to buffer against your fear of rejection from people, or fear of loss (of self image).

Just go out and order bottled water in the pub, if you're scared of their reaction just say you're on class A's and don't want to ruin your high,lol....or just don't give a damn what other people think.....or just have a few drinks; you don't need to sink 14 pints, do you?

The bottom line is you're allowing other people to dictate how you live your life, and building new prison walls for yourself, and all for what? :confused:

pumma

03-08-2007, 06:27 PM

So it seems I'm just going to have to be honest to my mates instead of going around it, I wouldn't want to lie anyways.
Well, you don't need to do what I've said. Try problem-reaction-solution method. :D:p;)

cruise4

03-08-2007, 07:52 PM

I don't drink either. Used to be an every night occurrence. Once I stopped drinking the pub quickly became somewhere I didn't want to be. I may now have the very very odd can of lager... but even that makes me feel somewhat worse the next day. Good riddance I say!

i am all i am

03-08-2007, 08:22 PM

I LOVE YOU.

G'day Soglad.

If you stop drinking you can save more money and get to Australia sooner !!!

I stopped drinking over nine and a half years ago now. We all know that it is damaging the body, the hangover lets you know that. Think of it as a way that you could love the physical body that you have, after all, it is a tool that helps you to experience your souls/spiritual journey, treating it with love would be beneficial for it's ability to fully experience Who You Truly Are.

THANK YOU.

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

soglad

03-08-2007, 10:12 PM

Right, I'm off to the pub to test myself out!

Cheers!

auron

03-08-2007, 11:20 PM

I refuse to go into pubs now for 3 reasons. One is that i'm always surronded by robots. Two - I cannot smoke. And Three - They serve alcohol. :D

notaslave

03-08-2007, 11:42 PM

Good luck with it, though there's nothing worse than being stone cold sober and everyone around you is drunk ! lol

My body doesnt like alcohol but I do, so sometimes I have a drink but not often.

cruise4

03-08-2007, 11:46 PM

Those bloody Pint Glasses are tricky on acid or mushrooms too!

auron

04-08-2007, 12:28 AM

william_mac

04-08-2007, 04:51 AM

I still don't understand not drinking though! Hah hah. I think the thing I've noticed is that people set times apart for drinking. They set a time apart, and then decide to go get drunk and "have fun". I hate being drunk. But, people that first meet me, and see that I drink all day long (which I do) think I must be drunk all the time. But, I just drink all day, I've only been drunk on two occasions, and I hate it. Over time, sipping on drinks, I've devloped a tolerance that allows me to drink more. That's it.

A friend of mine recently told me that cracking open the first beer is my "go flag". It's like "OK! time to get to work!" I work at home, by the way. That's why I drink throughout the day. I've never had any bad effects though.

I did sort of come up in a rock n' roll environment. I work for several music magazines as a writer and... just being around the folks may have something to do with it. Although I've calmed down, I still think I have a rock n' roll mentality.

-William
www.William-Mac.com

soglad

04-08-2007, 06:49 PM

Yeah so, I had a pint that I took my time drinking for ages, and I openly told my mates I was not drinking as much or often as I used to, and strangely enough, they didn't argue or take the piss. So as the night progress they got VERY, VERY drunk and I had an extra can or 2 as we went to the beach (at 4 in the morning) so all in all I had about 3 pints and a bottle, which is very little for me. But strangely enough today I've a hangover, maybe some type of placebo effect?

I still had a great night, and I wasn't drunk, only merry.

auron

04-08-2007, 07:08 PM

soglad

04-08-2007, 07:16 PM

I remember the feeling, sitting there with water while everyone else was gettin pissed. It was frustrating!

It passes after a while though, and it feels great!

I have also just quit drinking tea and coffee this week. :D

Quitting smoking cigs is next!

But i think that's a while away!

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5070/smoke20lotsnr2.gif

Ooooooh, I don't think I could give up my coffee! I'm a serious coffee lover! I play a fair amount of PC games, so I mean coffee just goes hand-in-hand. Although I know the side-effects. I've actually had withdrawal symptoms from it. Getting pissed off when out of coffee etc. But one step at a time.

I've already stopped eating meat, suger, watching tele, and trying to stop drinking.

Felling better every time now!

auron

04-08-2007, 07:19 PM

I just got these damn cigs to go!

But i love em' too much!! :mad:

herebynightfall

04-08-2007, 07:47 PM

I just got these damn cigs to go!

But i love em' too much!! :mad:

The key is to not stop cigs cold turkey.
You gotta save every stog for the right moment. Instead of having one after everything that you do. Cause i know I have one after almost literally everything.

Start by smoking 1-2 a day

one in da afternoon, and one at night.

and those two cigarettes will be better than the 10 that you would have smoked otherwise throughout the day.

i'm down to 1-2 a week if you can imagine. now these stogs never felt better and its a lot more to look forward to.

auron

04-08-2007, 08:14 PM

I'll give that ago. I do about 15 a day at the moment. I will get it down to 5. then 3, then 1 a day. Then hopefully completely stop! :D

snoopsnuffleopagus

04-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Bravo Soglad!

The Wise Ones always say: walk to the middle inregards to substances and some pleasures. Gotta say that was great restraint for a youg Lad in an Irish Pub on a weekend night.

Quality Ginger-Ales like Schweps or Seagrams w/Lemon is a good respite from alcoholic beverages.

Heres to your good health! (Glug)

cruise4

04-08-2007, 08:50 PM

I'm worried about you auron. You may be ill?

limelady

04-08-2007, 08:54 PM

I'm personally not into deprivation at the moment. It just seems so much like Illuminati thinking, as they have kept humanity in a perpetual state of deprivation for eons while they indulge in everything they want at our
expense.

So while most people are trying to curb the habits and other personal indulgences we are told are 'bad' for us or non-life supporting (phooey!) I do the opposite. I partake in anything I feel like having, including all the accepted vices. I just make sure I get organic everything wherever poss and try not to over-do anything.

I truly understand on a deep level that everything is an illusion anyway, therefore these days I over-write my body-computer programing to suit myself, and I simply don't care what either "mainstream" or "alternative" camps are saying about anything.

I am much happier and suffer far less guilt these days. It is the lot of a
slave to live guilt about everything, and I'm not having a bar of it in my
life any longer!

Love, peace, and mung beans
LL :D

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2499/lovelimeoa6.jpg

soglad

04-08-2007, 08:55 PM

I'm worried about you auron. You may be ill?

Why you say that?

auron

04-08-2007, 09:01 PM

Am i I'll? Fuck knows! If living life in absolute harmony with everything is being ill, then I must be on my death bed! :D

cruise4

04-08-2007, 09:57 PM

Its called satire.... It's just unusual to find someone who goes on about Magic Mushrooms and is also setting about giving up every last vice known to man nearly all at once. actually its an admirable aim.

Like Limelady says though... I love my Cup of Tea. I also intend to override my body as the need arises.

auron

04-08-2007, 09:59 PM

limelady

04-08-2007, 10:20 PM

lol. I have actually only taken them on 5 occasions! Plus i have done a lot of research on them over the last couple of years. They are wonderful things, and do not belong in a category of "drugs". :)

Hi auron,

don't be offended by the term drug with regard to mushrooms. Basically anything introduced fron 'outside' the body can be referred to as a drug.

This wiki description is the most widely accepted definition of a drug....

A drug is any chemical or biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that when taken into the organism's body, will in some way alter the functions of that organism. This broad definition can be taken to include such substances as food.

However more strict applications of the word prevail in everyday life. In these cases the word "drug" is usually used to refer specifically to medicine, vitamins, entheogenic sacraments, consciousness expanding or recreational drugs. Many natural substances such as beers, wines, and some mushrooms, blur the line between food and drugs, as when ingested they affect the functioning of both mind and body. The word "drug" is etymologically derived from the Dutch/Low German word "droog", which means "dry", since in the past, most drugs were dried plant parts

Drugs are usually distinguished from endogenous biochemicals by being introduced from outside the organism. For example, insulin is a hormone that is synthesized in the body; it is called a hormone when it is synthesized by the pancreas inside the body, but if it is introduced into the body from outside, it is called a drug.

So basically even a potato can be called a "drug" by definition, because of its biological potential (once entered into the human body) to alter the human physiology. i.e. it's carbohydrate content has the biological potential to raise insulin and eventually make you fat and give you acquired type 2 diabetes. :p

Drug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are all druggies, so eat, drink and be merry! :D

LL ;)

auron

04-08-2007, 11:33 PM

I know man! Perhaps i should have said in the same category as heroin and cocaine. :)

cruise4

04-08-2007, 11:38 PM

Cool... I'm off to smoke a potato:D

soglad

04-08-2007, 11:54 PM

Bwahahahhaaha

limelady

05-08-2007, 02:23 AM

Cool... I'm off to smoke a potato:D

Lol.....my spud dealer tells me the dehydrated stuffs the best! :D

auron

05-08-2007, 02:34 AM

Yes. Take 15 rectally. :D

soglad

05-08-2007, 02:40 AM

AHahahaaha, potatoe poppers!

seanx

05-08-2007, 03:06 AM

Limelady wrote;

QUOTE]I'm personally not into deprivation at the moment. It just seems so much like Illuminati thinking, as they have kept humanity in a perpetual state of deprivation for eons while they indulge in everything they want at our
expense.

So while most people are trying to curb the habits and other personal indulgences we are told are 'bad' for us or non-life supporting (phooey!) I do the opposite. I partake in anything I feel like having, including all the accepted vices. I just make sure I get organic everything wherever poss and try not to over-do anything.

I truly understand on a deep level that everything is an illusion anyway, therefore these days I over-write my body-computer programing to suit myself, and I simply don't care what either "mainstream" or "alternative" camps are saying about anything.

I am much happier and suffer far less guilt these days. It is the lot of a
slave to live guilt about everything, and I'm not having a bar of it in my
life any longer!

Love, peace, and mung beans
LL [/QUOTE]

Great.

Though I know where soglad is coming from.

Drinking 'orange juice' with the lads in a dublin pub.. watching,
say, the Dubs or a soccer match and the slagging can be
something.

But, at a certain level, it's all a joke and can be enjoyed as one.

ngawaka19

05-08-2007, 03:46 AM

Limelady's so onto it here, beautiful lime....... Everything is an illusion.

this ole wise pakeha woman once told me, leaning over the fence one day, "if your gonna eat a mars bar tell yourself its good for you".

thats quantum

love and light
ngawaka19

auron

05-08-2007, 03:49 AM

Great advice! When you look at it that way!

I should do the same with cigarettes. :)

soglad

05-08-2007, 03:49 AM

limelady

05-08-2007, 04:39 AM

AHahahaaha, potatoe poppers!

Lol.... and they come in flavours now for that little extra zing! :D

http://www.illegaluturn.com/im/sn/Emzee-PP-Salsa.jpg

ngawaka19

05-08-2007, 05:49 AM

Yeah but the illusion still can get you knocked down by a car and give you a bad case of deadness.

LOL....................

eternal_spirit

05-08-2007, 06:03 AM

Best thing about not drinking means better sex, that's if you can find anyone sober enough
who'll have you, without the beer goggles on.:rolleyes:

soglad

19-08-2007, 07:57 AM

So I was out the other day with a BIG gang of people and I have to say it was hard to keep the defenses up. I was ok when it was just 4 of us before the rest came, I just said I'm not in the mood, or I'm trying not to drink as much these days. It was ok then, bar a few weird looks and confused friend dying to buy me a drink, but when the others came it was full-on interrogation time.....

One girl actually was worried for me, and thought I was going through alcoholism or something! haha! Ah well, at least she cared, but it was getting harder and harder and getting asked more and more and having to keep repeating myself. Apparently, "No, I won't have anything, thanks." is code in Dublin for "Yes, I'll have two pints of Guinness and a shot of Jagermiester!" so.....all I had was that and I didn't get drunk, just merry.

I'd rather not drink at all, but I think I'll have to have the ONE just to shut people up and sip it for ages...

montag

19-08-2007, 08:31 AM

I'd rather not drink at all, but I think I'll have to have the ONE just to shut people up and sip it for ages...
Try this soglad, rather than say you are giving up alcohol for good just say you are having a drinking fast for one month to detox. I did this a few months a go, I'm a muso and it is unheard of for muso's not to drink, but giving up for a month they seemed to come to terms with and didn't give me too much grief..
I did start drinking again at the end of the month because my intention was only to stop for this period, but it would have been very easy to never drink again, most of my mates had already come to terms with the fact I didn't drink and were actually a little surprised when I began drinking again.

mightiswrong

19-08-2007, 09:35 AM

Most of my hangeover these days is from the smokes not the alchohol. Seems to give me a lingering headache but I did stop smoking for a while last year and the alchohol hangover on it's own was very lite.

megafish33

19-08-2007, 10:26 AM

"Oh yeah, I'm not drinking because it turns people into arrogant, obnoxious idiots and clouds, their consciousness."

*friends walk away, awkwardly drink their pints, don't talk to me ever again*

I also am not taking in any sugar these day so I can get more dream clarity, so I can't buy a Coke and pretend it's Vodka & Coke. I can only drink water or juice, but I'd get a kick in the knackers and be called gay for that.

Any tips??

You need more friends. :)

Just be balanced, a drink or so a week won't kill you, just say you only drink red wine with your dinner, and don't show up for dinner.

soglad

19-08-2007, 02:03 PM

You need more friends. :)

Just be balanced, a drink or so a week won't kill you, just say you only drink red wine with your dinner, and don't show up for dinner.

Well, I agree that a good deal of my friend are a bit ignorant, but I'd be happy to wait for their wake-up call, which is happening to so many people at tho moment.

I'm happy now to go out and not act like an idiot and have little or no hangovers next morn.

Plain sailing :D

spiraltrance

20-08-2007, 10:53 AM

Soglad best thing I can say is you'r making the right decision giving up alcohol regardless of what anyone says. Alcohol is extremely destructive, many in my family are alcoholics and I've also had a drink problem though I'm now at a similar stage to you where I want to quit alcohol altogether.

I'm having similar problems with my 'friends' where when i'm with them not drinking doesn't really work and i'll end up getting drunk and snorting loads of coke. Best advice I can give is to leave your friends so to speak. Most of them despite the short term fun they'll provide you with will probably hold you back spiritualy in the long run and throw lots of attachments on you. It's a hard choice to make and best thing is to not answer the phone when they call you. Good luck anyway!

kashmirz

20-08-2007, 11:38 AM

Kashmir_Z Reformed alcoholic at your service, i learned this a long time ago and stoped drinking back when i was 16, for about a year there i was drinking entire bottles of scotch before school (back when i was in school :P )

I originally got into drinking because that was in this part of my life where i had ten thousand voices in my head screaming "find the doors ventras" over and over , it made them stop, eventually i did enough to calm the voices in my mind.

Either way , i had also smoked weed at the time, still do to this day, and i realized that didn't have any negative affects on my body, in terms of no hangovers, no headaches, ive never been sick, etc etc, now that doesn't mean thats the solution oh no no, just merley stating my experiences :)

What i found most helpfull at the time was to keep a flask full of soft drink (soda for you yanks :P ) and anytime i wanted a drink just have it from that, it is true that substances are addictive but most of the time the harder part is quiting the consciouses level that just liked doing the act of xyz ...

<3

spiraltrance

20-08-2007, 11:57 AM

Either way , i had also smoked weed at the time, still do to this day, and i realized that didn't have any negative affects on my body, in terms of no hangovers, no headaches, ive never been sick, etc etc, now that doesn't mean thats the solution oh no no, just merley stating my experiences :)

Congrats for kicking alcohol kashmirz but do you think replacing one drug with another is the right answer. I do know the attraction of weed as I use to smoke it heavily though now it gets me paranoid so I avoid it. But weed like alcohol is just a temporary release?

kashmirz

20-08-2007, 12:06 PM

Oh yes i understand that if you want to look at it that way then yes i agree it is, however, you see , Weed always had a way , still has a way of taking all these thoughts, these billions of thoughts that go through my mind at any given second, aspects of truth, aspects of reality , all this info i pick up from all these things around me constantly and it just ... calms it and i feel and understand it all .. as it happens ... all at once ...

oh gosh barbitone droped a light bomb pm my way and has sucesfully sent my mind into a cataclysmic race haha i will write something more constructed later i cant concentrate for all this energy buzzing right now.

dark86

20-08-2007, 01:51 PM

the problem with alcohol is that so many social events revolve around it - especially in the uk. i now sometimes when out dont drink, but i do admit i do get drunk once i start drinking, its like the snowball of the mountain effect. This is still a big improvement for me compared to where i was with drugs n drink a few years ago. not touched class A's for near on a year now.