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real6
02-07-2009, 03:58 PM
Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill
WOW, is all i can fucking say!!!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bureaucrats-will-carry-out-mandatory-home-inspections-under-climate-bill.html
Government vampires ready and waiting to sink their teeth into the fat hog American taxpayer once more
Bureaucrats Will Carry Out Mandatory Home Inspections Under Climate Bill 020709top
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, July 2, 2009
The controversial climate bill that is set to be taken up by the Senate on Monday after its passage in the House will legislate home inspections by government regulators who will demand to audit every aspect of your property under the threat of substantial and repeated fines if their visits are denied or their demands not satisfied.
The climate legislation is written in a manner that automatically assumes that global warming is taking place and that it is attributed to rising CO2 levels, despite the fact that this is a highly contentious question and is being rejected by more and more scientists as time goes by.
As Tony Pacheco writes in his excellent article today, the bill will “audit every aspect of your home and life”.
The bill states every home owner will receive an energy audit. What is a home energy audit? It is an intrusive visit made by the bureaucrats at the Home Energy Team or a similar group. They will examine and report the way you live your life directly to RESNET (Residential Energy Services Network) . Light fixtures, socket types, spas, hot tubs, windows, appliances, walls and roofs will all be under review. Energy tests will be conducted throughout your house. At the end of the visit you will receive a report and a rating. The report will focus on the changes you need to make and the rating is called a HERS rating (Home Energy Rating System). RESNET will perform the audits through authorized contractors. RESNET has adopted the Mortgage Industry National Home Energy Rating Standards. The standards set the national procedures for home energy ratings.
According to RESNET, an audit consists of:
Comprehensive Home Energy Audit - A level of the RESNET Home Energy Audit process defined by this standard to include the evaluation, diagnosis and proposed treatment of an existing home. The Comprehensive Home Energy Audit may be based on a Home Performance Assessment (“Comprehensive Home Performance Energy Audit”) or Home Energy Rating (“Comprehensive HERS Audit”), in accordance with the criteria established by this Standard. A homeowner may elect to go through this process with or without a prior Home Energy Survey or Diagnostic Home Energy Survey.
Regulations already in place in some cities for non-residential buildings already carry fines of $2000 a time for preventing bureaucrats from carrying out inspections. These will simply be expanded to cover all premises under the new climate bill.
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Under the RESNET standards for a home audit, the following procedures will become law under the climate bill.
704.1.2.3 The Home Energy Survey Professional shall request copies of utility bills or
written permission to obtain the energy use information from the utility company, and use
them to produce an estimate of generalized end-uses (base, heating, and cooling).
704.1.2.5. Minimum Procedures for an In-Home Energy Survey:
704.1.2.5.1.1 R-values of wall/ceiling/floor insulation
704.1.2.5.1.2 Square footage and approximate age of home
704.1.2.5.1.3 Type of windows: glazing type(s) and frame material(s)
704.1.2.5.1.4 Type, model number, and location of heating/cooling system(s)
704.1.2.5.1.5 Type of ductwork, location and R-value of duct insulation, and any
indications of previous duct sealing
704.1.2.5.1.6 Type of foundation is crawl, basement, or slab
704.1.2.5.1.7 Checklist of common air-leakage sites indicating likely opportunities
for leakage reduction
704.1.2.5.1.8 Estimated age and efficiency of major appliances such as
dishwashers, refrigerators, freezers, washing machines and dryers
704.1.2.5.1.9 Number and type of hardwired light fixtures and screw-in bulbs in
portable lamps suitable for energy efficient re-lamping
704.1.2.5.1.10 Visual indications of condensation
704.1.2.5.1.11 Presence and location of exhaust fans, and determination of whether
they are vented outdoors
704.1.2.5.1.12 Number and type of water fixtures (e.g. faucets, showerheads)
704.1.2.5.1.13 Presence and type(s) of combustion equipment; identification of
visually identifiable evidence of flame rollout, blocked chimney, and corroded or
missing vent connector.
As we have warned, the climate bill is nothing more than a feast for bloodthirsty government vampires, who are ready and waiting to suck off the fat hog of the American taxpayer once more.
Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich says it will take a “miracle” for the Senate to pass the controversial climate bill next week, meaning that the legislation won’t be in place before United Nations climate talks in Copenhagen in December.
The Senator told Bloomberg News that the bill contains “a lot of crap” and that cutting CO2 emissions by 17 per cent before 2020 was an unobtainable goal.
Voinovich’s prediction that the bill will fail is echoed by Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said that the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.”
However, Senator John Kerry claims that the bill will pass the Senate next week but that there won’t be enough sway to approve a global treaty that commits other nations to follow the same regulations.
gripit
02-07-2009, 04:22 PM
This is law in Ontario now.
From Queen’s Park, green police will be dispatched across the province, armed with “uploaded” powers, to search out energy inefficiency and carbon abuse, and to invade homes in search of unregulated appliances and illegal beer fridges.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/tags/Green+Energy+Act/default.aspx
lizzy
02-07-2009, 04:54 PM
Thanks real6.you have posted the best info on this recently......it is so important.......these "laws' will be the ones to take down whatever is left of middle class savings , promote the need not to own property and for "freedom" of the individual live and grow ones food, virtually impossible...that they want us begging for our daily GM bread is obvious......
I read that peeps have been fined as much as $10,000 a day for "infractions".
gilly
02-07-2009, 05:39 PM
Meanwhile, in the Uk...
Despite the shortage of jobs around Lancashire, I'd noticed the local paper's weekly job section has been advertising 'Be a "Property Prefessional,"' for a few weeks now.
The ad talks about millions of properties (all commercial plus any domestic ones being let or sold) are now to be subject to a compulsory energy assessment.
I rung them and pretended to be interested, to find out more. This bloke had me on the phone for 25 minutes, and I let him control the coversation, till near the end.
He wanted personal details from me, like my address and date of birth before he'd go into any detail - and even then, he wasn't very forthcoming. He 'interviewed' me, and invited me for a formal interview next week in Manchester.
All he'd divulge was that there is a lot of new EU driven legislation, and much more is expected, and they didn't have many people qualified to conduct the assessments (earnings per assessment between 50 quid & 1,200 quid).
He wanted to know my opinion on global warning, and was quite taken aback when I told him! He suggested I must have come across some propoganda - I agreed, saying it was virtually unavoidable since this is what the MSM are pushing. (Just having a bit of fun with him :D).
Anyway, he refused to give anything more away regarding the nature of the legislation, other than that you could train to differing levels, and from probing, I determined that a lot of property owners are not even aware of the legislation yet, although they will have to comply within the next 12 months.
The advert was a con anyway, which was what I suspected.
Picking up clues from between the lines, I asked if this was actually a job they were advertising, or training, in order to qualify for a job. He was reticent to answer, but eventually said it was training, and tried to get me off the line, saying "It's important that you turn up for the interview, as I've allocated you an hour of my time".
I finally ascertained that it was the latter, and that after qualifiying, they introduce you to their sister company, who would (probably) offer you work on a self-employed basis.
I asked the fee for training, and his attempts to evade the question were laughable.
He said things like, "It might be completely irrelevant to you".
I asked why that might be, and he said, "Well, er, because I might not offer you a place on the course". So I pointed out that if I was going to travel all the way to Manchester, and give him an hour of my time, it would be with the intention of progressing, and therefore, the fee was highly relevant.
However, I didn't let him off the hook, and eventually established that the most basic course is 4,950 quid + VAT.
There would be more training required in the near future, to come into line with further legislation.
Sorry if that's a long waffle, but I've got a bad feeling about the whole thing, and I suspect that it's going to be something similar to what's happening in the States.
decim
02-07-2009, 05:40 PM
This is also on the lEUcifer list of "things to do" list.
real6
02-07-2009, 06:04 PM
Thanks real6.you have posted the best info on this recently......it is so important.......these "laws' will be the ones to take down whatever is left of middle class savings , promote the need not to own property and for "freedom" of the individual live and grow ones food, virtually impossible...that they want us begging for our daily GM bread is obvious......
I read that peeps have been fined as much as $10,000 a day for "infractions".
Anytime :)
lizzy
02-07-2009, 06:05 PM
Thanks Gilly, that was an interesting read.;)
gilly
02-07-2009, 06:08 PM
Thanks Gilly, that was an interesting read.;)
Cheers! :)
real6
02-07-2009, 06:08 PM
Senate May Pass U.S. Climate Bill, Reject Treaty, Kerry Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aMs9V_EUxE0Y
July 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Senate may pass legislation to slow climate change and then fail to approve a global treaty that commits nations to do so, Senator John Kerry said.
Kerry, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, will be a leader in Senate efforts to place the first domestic curbs on greenhouse gases, after the House approved a measure last week. Even if a Senate bill passes, there may not be enough support to ratify an international accord incorporating the U.S. commitments, the Massachusetts Democrat said in an interview.
A possible Senate rejection poses a threat to the 192- nation effort to forge an agreement, which scientists say can help slow warming that’s raising sea levels and changing rainfall patterns globally.
“We are definitely going to make more progress if there is a strong international agreement that the U.S. is a party to,” said Nigel Purvis, who in the 1990s worked as a U.S. negotiator on the Kyoto climate treaty that the U.S. didn’t ratify. Passing domestic climate-change legislation remains the most crucial step, Purvis said.
Senate ratification of a treaty would require 67 votes, compared with 60 for legislation.
“Sixty-seven votes is a big target here,” Kerry said last week, before Congress left for a one-week break. “We may be able to pass something that puts America on track to accomplish our set of goals. But we may pass it with 60 votes, or 61 or whatever, and that’s not 67.”
House Measure
The House approved climate-change legislation last week on a 219-212 vote. The measure would create a cap-and-trade system to curb emissions, establish a market for trading pollution allowances, and fund investments in new energy sources. It aims to cut fossil-fuel emissions from power plants, factories, oil refineries and vehicles 17 percent below 2005 levels by 2020.
Senate leaders say they hope to complete their version before talks on a global climate treaty in December in Copenhagen. Twenty senators led by Kerry and Senator Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat who heads the Environment and Public Works Committee, have been meeting to prepare for the debate in their chamber.
Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, the top Republican on Boxer’s committee, has vowed to stop the bill, calling it “the largest tax increase in American history” and saying the “razor-thin vote in the House spells doom in the Senate.”
China, India, Brazil
Lawmakers in both chambers have said they won’t support climate change restrictions that boost costs and put U.S. businesses and farmers at a competitive disadvantage with nations such as China, India and Brazil that may not take comparable steps.
“They gotta be put in the same category as we are; they can’t be listed as a developing country,” Senator Tom Harkin, an Iowa Democrat, said in an interview. Iowa farmers produce corn-based ethanol, in competition with Brazil, which uses sugar cane to make the alternative fuel.
President Barack Obama will have a better chance of gaining commitments on emissions cuts from developing countries if he has votes for legislation from both chambers of Congress in hand in Copenhagen, said Elliot Diringer, vice president for international strategies at the Pew Center on Global Climate Change based in Arlington, Virginia.
Copenhagen Talks
The Copenhagen talks are an effort to negotiate a successor to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, an international climate agreement negotiated in part by Democratic Vice President Al Gore, which expires in 2012.
President George W. Bush rejected the Kyoto accord after it didn’t require developing countries to curb emissions. The Senate had passed a resolution 95-0 saying that members wouldn’t approve any treaty that lacked limits on India and China.
Todd Stern, the U.S. special envoy for climate change and Obama’s chief negotiator, has said developing nations must be part of a new accord. Under a U.S. proposal, those countries may agree to add renewable energy production or improve energy efficiency without taking on the specific emissions targets required of developed nations.
It’s too soon to worry about ratification of an international treaty, Boxer said in an interview.
“For me to speculate on how you get 67 votes for a treaty we haven’t yet seen, I just couldn’t do that,” Boxer said. “The most important thing now is for us to continue to act in the Congress so we give the president some wind at his back before Copenhagen.”
At the very least, Kerry said Obama will be able to go to Copenhagen with the House-passed measure and a draft of Senate legislation as a road map.
‘Tough Sledding’
Kerry’s doubts about lining up 67 Senate votes for a treaty were echoed by Harkin and Senator Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat.
“That’s pretty tough sledding,” said Harkin, chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee.
“My major interest is manufacturing and how we preserve manufacturing,” Brown said in an interview. He said he wants a trade deal that protects U.S. companies in iron and steel, aluminum, cement, glass, pulp and paper, and chemicals.
“There’s a fine line here between what the rest of the world is expecting the U.S. to do and what may be politically possible in the Senate,” said Duncan Marsh, director of international climate policy for the Nature Conservancy, an Arlington, Virginia-based environmental group.
real6
02-07-2009, 06:09 PM
Voinovich Says ‘Crap’ in Climate Bill Will Stall U.S. Passage
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aKY2LCdrdHkc
June 30 (Bloomberg) -- A House-passed bill favored by President Barack Obama to curtail global warming contains “a lot of crap” that will probably delay approval of the measure this year, Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich said.
It would take a “miracle” for the legislation to pass the Senate before United Nations climate talks in Copenhagen in December, Voinovich said. “You’ve got a bill that is 1,200 pages, and there is just a lot of crap in there,” he said.
The House of Representatives on June 26 approved the measure, which would reduce 2005 fossil fuels emissions 17 percent by 2020. It would also create a “cap-and-trade” system for pollution permits and fund investment in new energy sources.
The proposed emission reductions in the legislation, the American Clean Energy and Security Act, go too far, Voinovich said.
“I think the goal of 17 percent by 2020, even though by European standards is not that high, I think it’s too high for us,” Voinovich said today in an interview during a visit to Riga, Latvia. “So much of the bill is trying to compensate for the fact that they have set it at 17” percent, he said.
Climate-change legislation is a top priority for Obama this year. In a weekend radio address, he said the House plan would transform the nation’s economy and create millions of jobs. On June 29, Obama said he was confident the Senate would follow in the House’s footsteps.
“There is a lot of work yet to be done; but from my perspective, it’s still open,” Voinovich said. “I’m leaving the Senate at the end of next year and I think there is the possibility in getting something done that’s meaningful.”
Democratic Control
Democrats control the Senate 59-40 and may have picked up a crucial 60th vote today with a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling that declared Democrat Al Franken the winner over Republican Norm Coleman. It takes 60 votes to cut off debate in the Senate.
Ohio’s two senators, Voinovich and Democrat Sherrod Brown, are among some two dozen senators from industrial and farm states who will be critical to passage of a cap-and-trade plan. More than 80 percent of Ohio’s electricity comes from coal- fired power plants, which are among the biggest producers of greenhouse gas emissions.
The state’s unemployment rate exceeds the national average. A cap-and-trade bill must protect manufacturers from sharp increases in energy prices and overseas competition from companies operating under less-stringent pollution limits, the senators say.
Delegation to the Balkans
Voinovich is part of a 13-member congressional delegation visiting the Balkans and Baltics this week. The group attended an annual meeting of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, where the group discussed Afghanistan security, the economic crisis, climate change and other issues.
Senator Benjamin Cardin, a Maryland Democrat, and Representative Alcee Hastings, a Florida Democrat, led the delegation.
In May, Latvian President Valdis Zatlers presented Voinovich with the Order of the Three Stars, the nation’s highest state honor, for his work to expand the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s membership to include Latvia.
banphrionsalola
02-07-2009, 06:14 PM
in ireland from the 1st jan this year all residential properties for sale or rent requires a BER (building energy rating) Certificate. It costs €300 to get one of these certificates and its law under some EU directive. Basically you pay some assessor to come into your house and decide whether youf home is energy efficient or not they then give you a certificate with an energy rating of your home A-G (A being the best of course). You cannot sell your house or rent a property without this certificate. Its a complete and utter joke.
Ian2day
02-07-2009, 07:23 PM
Perhaps retrospective legislation should be relaxed on this. Unless a property has undergone major remodelling/renovations etc. Apply it to new builds by all means. Just like buying a fridge. You need to know what the energy consumption is.
fekdemasons
02-07-2009, 08:41 PM
Meanwhile, in the Uk...
Despite the shortage of jobs around Lancashire, I'd noticed the local paper's weekly job section has been advertising 'Be a "Property Prefessional,"' for a few weeks now.
The ad talks about millions of properties (all commercial plus any domestic ones being let or sold) are now to be subject to a compulsory energy assessment.
I rung them and pretended to be interested, to find out more. This bloke had me on the phone for 25 minutes, and I let him control the coversation, till near the end.
He wanted personal details from me, like my address and date of birth before he'd go into any detail - and even then, he wasn't very forthcoming. He 'interviewed' me, and invited me for a formal interview next week in Manchester.
All he'd divulge was that there is a lot of new EU driven legislation, and much more is expected, and they didn't have many people qualified to conduct the assessments (earnings per assessment between 50 quid & 1,200 quid).
He wanted to know my opinion on global warning, and was quite taken aback when I told him! He suggested I must have come across some propoganda - I agreed, saying it was virtually unavoidable since this is what the MSM are pushing. (Just having a bit of fun with him :D).
Anyway, he refused to give anything more away regarding the nature of the legislation, other than that you could train to differing levels, and from probing, I determined that a lot of property owners are not even aware of the legislation yet, although they will have to comply within the next 12 months.
The advert was a con anyway, which was what I suspected.
Picking up clues from between the lines, I asked if this was actually a job they were advertising, or training, in order to qualify for a job. He was reticent to answer, but eventually said it was training, and tried to get me off the line, saying "It's important that you turn up for the interview, as I've allocated you an hour of my time".
I finally ascertained that it was the latter, and that after qualifiying, they introduce you to their sister company, who would (probably) offer you work on a self-employed basis.
I asked the fee for training, and his attempts to evade the question were laughable.
He said things like, "It might be completely irrelevant to you".
I asked why that might be, and he said, "Well, er, because I might not offer you a place on the course". So I pointed out that if I was going to travel all the way to Manchester, and give him an hour of my time, it would be with the intention of progressing, and therefore, the fee was highly relevant.
However, I didn't let him off the hook, and eventually established that the most basic course is 4,950 quid + VAT.
There would be more training required in the near future, to come into line with further legislation.
Sorry if that's a long waffle, but I've got a bad feeling about the whole thing, and I suspect that it's going to be something similar to what's happening in the States.
Gilly,
Been there , got the tea shirt. All a big con to sell training. THere are too many energy assesors and not enough work in reality. THese fuckers know it as well. THey are shamelessly ripping people off with useless training knowing full well theres another half a million unemployed to sucker in.
Bstds !!
gilly
02-07-2009, 10:58 PM
Gilly,
Been there , got the tea shirt. All a big con to sell training. THere are too many energy assesors and not enough work in reality. THese fuckers know it as well. THey are shamelessly ripping people off with useless training knowing full well theres another half a million unemployed to sucker in.
Bstds !!
That's what I said! :rolleyes:
I'm not interested in doing it - I was trying to get the info out of him about the new legislation, and what the anticipated raft of further regs involves.
But you're quite right. They are bastards. :D