View Full Version : Book by former anti-terror chief Banned!
bobbydiva
02-07-2009, 02:50 PM
TIMESONLINE.CO.UK
Copies of a book by Scotland Yard's former anti-terrorism chief were today removed from the shelves after the Attorney General obtained a last-minute injunction preventing it from going on sale.
The ban on sales of The Terrorist Hunters by Andy Hayman was issued by a High Court judge just before midnight after a hearing conducted by telephone conference call.
It was imposed just as the book was due to go on sale, although internet bookshops were still promoting the book as a special offer today.
The hearing which led to the interim injunction was sought by Baroness Scotland QC only yesterday despite the fact that the book, extracts from which appeared in The Times last week, was given to several agencies for vetting two months ago.
Intelligence agencies, the Crown Prosecution Smith and the Cabinet Office are believed to have seen copies of the manuscript ahead of publication but it was not shown to the Metropolitan Police.
The legal reasons for seeking the injunction cannot currently be disclosed. The ban on sales has been imposed temporarily and a full High Court hearing is expected next week.
The book concentrates on Mr Hayman's years as Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations at Scotland Yard, which included dealing with the July 2007 bomb attacks and his call for a public inquiry into the events leading up to Britain's first suicide bombings.
Mr Hayman is also highly critical of the way in which the Government's emergency committee, Cobra, functioned claiming it spent too much time discussing politics and not enough time on urgent operational matters.
The book also looked at the murder of Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko and gave a behind the scenes glimpse of top-level political and intelligence work.
Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, complained last week that he was not given a preview of the book's contents.
He told a meeting of the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA) that he was reluctant to give the book more publicity.
But Sir Paul said members of the force’s watchdog may like to consider whether senior officers should be allowed to publish such books. He said: “I find it surprising as commissioner that I have no right on this occasion to have access to the book before it is published. That surprises me. It is troublesome and it does not help good conduct.”
Mr Hayman, who writes for The Times on policing matters, said he was unable to comment on the injunction for legal reasons. Random House, the publishers of the book, also declined to comment.
[Now I'm interested. I would have never known about the book if it wasn't banned, dumb powers that be. :rolleyes: I wonder what he exposes.]
disorder2k8
02-07-2009, 02:54 PM
lol Cobraaa!
now we know, and knowing is half the battle :rolleyes:
very serpentine organisation title there haha
entrainment
02-07-2009, 03:44 PM
lol Cobraaa!
now we know, and knowing is half the battle :rolleyes:
very serpentine organisation title there haha
:D exactly !!!
Thanks.
I've been able to find a site which as it in stock, so I have placed an order. Hopefully they don't try and cancel it. :rolleyes:
bobbydiva
02-07-2009, 05:06 PM
Amazon has it up, but they may just cancel it:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terrorist-Hunters-Andy-Hayman/dp/059306335X
Amazon has it up, but they may just cancel it:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terrorist-Hunters-Andy-Hayman/dp/059306335X
It seems like it as been removed. It was mentioned on one of the news sites that it was on sale earlier this morning though.
'' Andy Hayman talks to Gaunty about his new book, 'The Terrorist Hunters', and his former role as the man in overall command
of setting security strategies with heads of government and security chiefs in the UK and Overseas. ''
Click Here to Listen to Gaunty and The Man In Charge on 7/7
http://downloads.thesun.co.uk/downloads/podcasts/2009/090625/PodcastAndyHayman2506.mp3
or right click (save as) from the original source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sun_talk/2498805/On-Air-Thursday-25-June.html
bones
02-07-2009, 05:34 PM
any way to get a pdf of it?
it must be important read?
decim
02-07-2009, 05:37 PM
Don't believe the hype.
bobbydiva
03-07-2009, 01:35 AM
well lots of books get through. I think it's rare a book gets banned, there must be something in it, unless he just reveals pointless but senstive data.
flip side
03-07-2009, 01:44 AM
That's an impressive marketing campaign right there:D
majorlee
03-07-2009, 01:45 AM
anyone work in waterstones etc?
try and get a copy and scan it up for all to read!
smoke n mirrors
03-07-2009, 01:47 AM
Don't believe the hype.
Ditto.
Probably just bumping the sales figures with a little help form his friends. :rolleyes:
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whitenight639
03-07-2009, 01:49 AM
Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, complained last week that he was not given a preview of the book's contents.
He told a meeting of the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA) that he was reluctant to give the book more publicity.
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hmmm so all book should be vetted by sir Paul pants ay?
no mention of the official secrets act so why the fuck cant he publish what he wants?
me wants a copy of that book!!
and banning it will only create a bigger interest, brilliant publicity!
It was reported that there was a few thousand which was released to the book stores before this was banned, so there will probably be some able to locate elsewhere on the internet in the coming weeks, most likely. I'm not to sure if they will also try to banned the book from release in other countries.
The site which I ordered mine from as now sold out. I haven't received any contact such as a cancellation. Yet! See how it goes. :rolleyes:
whitenight639
03-07-2009, 01:51 AM
anyone work in waterstones etc?
try and get a copy and scan it up for all to read!
yeh anyone that can get a copy should have a gud read and see if theres anything juicy in it, if so fire up the scanner, it'll be worth ur job!!
whitenight639
03-07-2009, 02:00 AM
It was reported that there was a few thousand which was released to the book stores before this was banned, so there will probably be some able to locate elsewhere on the internet in the coming weeks, most likely. I'm not to sure if they will also try to banned the book from release in other countries.
The site which I ordered mine from as now sold out. I haven't received any contact such as a cancellation. Yet! See how it goes. :rolleyes:
cool let us know if u get it n theres gud stuff in it, just do a thread about it weathers its juicy or not. :D
the nine
03-07-2009, 02:14 AM
I too want to read it now...i'm intreagued.
kudos to the firstperson to create an ebook/pdf format available online :)
Booksellers have been told to withdraw from sale The Terrorist Hunters by Britain's former head of counter-terrorism Andy Hayman after a High Court judge placed a temporary injunction order on it late last night (1st July).
Booksellers were contacted by Transworld this morning (2nd July) and asked to remove the book, but not return it. A spokeswoman for Transworld's parent Random House stated: "An order has been granted restraining the publication of the book. We are unable to comment further until the full hearing." The hearing could take place as soon as next week.
The book was briefly listed for sale on Amazon.co.uk today, but has now been removed. It is not available on Waterstones.com, or WHSmith.co.uk, though remains "in stock" at The Book Depository, Play.com, and Tesco.com. The full reasons for the injunction cannot be published for legal reasons.
Hayman was Scotland Yard assistant commissioner during the 7th July attacks, the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes and the murder of the Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko. The book was part-serialised in the Times last week. Copies of the book has already been seen by the Crown Prosecution Service, the Cabinet Office, MI5 and MI6 and the Metropolitan Police Authority. :http://www.thebookseller.com/news/90285-judge-puts-hold-on-publication-of-the-terrorist-hunters.html
It currently is listed to buy from Tesco. This seems to be the only source based in the UK which hasn't been removed. Same price.
:http://www.tesco.com/books/product.aspx?R=9780593063354
Andy Hayman
- All Websites promoting this book have pulled the plug on it
www.andyhayman.com
cool let us know if u get it n theres gud stuff in it, just do a thread about it weathers its juicy or not. :D
No problem. It wouldn't surprise me though if there was a message update in the morning from them about the order. Kind of interested also, with the quick pull.
anyuser
03-07-2009, 11:09 AM
search "books banned by bush" There are many of them.
davew
03-07-2009, 11:18 AM
I just bought one from www.play.com
PlayTrade link
I just bought one from www.play.com
PlayTrade link
This is also the site where I was able to order mine from before they was removed. Today I received this message.
To: -------- (-----@hotmail.co.uk)
Your order for The Terrorist Hunters has been posted.
Like an idiot though, I placed another order from Tesco. Either that one goes through I'm not sure - I could always list it on ebay should it have. :rolleyes:
davew
03-07-2009, 01:10 PM
aura, I'll see what happens and if/when they ban it ...
bobbydiva
03-07-2009, 11:28 PM
the only one I can find on play is a novel "hunter" not "hunters"
http://www.tesco.com/books/product.aspx?R=9780593063354
The final store which was based in the UK (Tesco) now as been removed. The item page as also been taken down from www.play.com
It was listed on ebay today for awhile, now that store as removed it which can be seen from below.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Terrorist-Hunters-Book-Andy-Hayman-Margaret-Gilmo_W0QQitemZ260440218914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_B ooks_EducationalTextbooks_EducationalTextbooks_GL? hash=item3ca3725d22&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A100
I hope mine was posted today, as mentioned - otherwise I can see them trying to block it. :mad:
bobbydiva
04-07-2009, 12:14 AM
God why do these stores just give in like that. They could make massive profits.
drhemp
04-07-2009, 01:35 AM
I would have thought they'd have learned from the Spycatcher book that Thatcher tried to ban, this is impossilbe, as it's still available in other countries? The only thing the Spycatcher ban did was make Peter Wright an incredibly rich man, as millions of people purchased a rather boring book because it was sold as 'the book the British Government tried to ban'. If they hadn't have done that it would have sold a small amount and almost nobody would have heard of it or Peter Wright.
aura, I'll see what happens and if/when they ban it ...
Have you been able to receive an order update?
I would have thought they'd have learned from the Spycatcher book that Thatcher tried to ban, this is impossilbe, as it's still available in other countries?
It is expected to be released oversea's next month, they'll probably try and pull something else I would expect.
leviathanstaar
04-07-2009, 04:52 AM
Making sure it gets read?
I have received the book which I ordered from www.play.com while it was listed, you'll probably receive your's soon Dave.
I still haven't had an update from the Tesco order which I placed as a backup, there usually a slow service anyway.
whitenight639
07-07-2009, 07:45 PM
I have received the book which I ordered from www.play.com (http://www.play.com) while it was listed, you'll probably receive your's soon Dave.
I still haven't had an update from the Tesco order which I placed as a backup, there usually a slow service anyway.
anything good in it then?
anything good in it then?
I've not started the book at the moment. I'll look into it soon, though.
This is probably the only subject which I have not really looked into compared to everything else related - so I need to start from the beginning to have a better understanding for the books information.
I'm still surprised that I had received it, with how quickly they was to remove the listings from each source.
davew
08-07-2009, 10:11 AM
Hi aura, I rang last night as my order is still in the 'processing' stage, I was told there is a problem with the order!
:mad:
Hi aura, I rang last night as my order is still in the 'processing' stage, I was told there is a problem with the order!
:mad:
This is something which I expected to happen with mine.
Do you know what the problem is related too? Have you checked into your account for the current activity? (ie. item posted, ect.)
I received a message the day after saying it was posted, this one came from Jersey. - Good luck with it.