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december
02-08-2007, 07:09 PM
Russia plants flag under N Pole

Russian explorers have planted their country's flag on the seabed 4,200m (14,000ft) below the North Pole to further Moscow's claims to the Arctic.

The rust-proof titanium metal flag was brought by explorers travelling in two mini-submarines, in what is believed to be the first expedition of its kind.

One of the two vessels has completed the difficult journey back to the surface, Itar-Tass news agency reports.
Melting polar ice has led to competing claims over access to Arctic resources.

Russia's claim to a vast swathe of territory in the Arctic, thought to contain oil, gas and mineral reserves, has been challenged by other powers, including the US.

The mission's leader, explorer and parliamentarian Artur Chilingarov, earlier told Itar-Tass news agency that his mini-submarine had a "smooth" landing on the seabed.
"The yellowish ground is around us, no sea dwellers are seen," he said.
'Heroic mission'

The mini-submarines, Mir-I and Mir-II, were brought to the North Pole by the two ships in the Russian expedition - a nuclear-powered ice-breaker and a research vessel.
The expedition set off last week from the port of Murmansk in search of geological evidence to back up Moscow's claims to the resource-rich Arctic seabed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6927395.stm#map



Russia ahead in Arctic 'gold rush'

The Russians are leading a new "gold rush" in the high north, with a bold attempt to assert a claim to oil, gas and mineral rights over large parts of the Arctic Ocean up to the North Pole.[/size]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6925853.stm



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december
02-08-2007, 07:10 PM
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uchiha
02-08-2007, 07:30 PM
first step towards two things

1. Cold war Part 2?

2. Further exploring the Hollow Earth theory; and maybe a discovery?

december
02-08-2007, 10:05 PM
1. Cold war Part 2?

You have a Satanic thinking....

2. Further exploring the Hollow Earth theory; and maybe a discovery?

Uchiha, we live in the 21 century already...
The Hollow Earth theory was a fairy tale of Europe's housewives some 200 hundred years ago...

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Both Russian mini-subs surface after symbolic North Pole dive

02/ 08/ 2007

MOSCOW, August 2 (RIA Novosti) - Two Russian mini-submarines have surfaced after a more than eight-hour dive to the North Pole seabed, in a symbolic Russian expedition to claim Arctic territory, the Vesti-24 TV channel reported Thursday.

Russian researchers in submersibles Mir-1 and Mir-2 traveled 4,200 meters (14,000 feet) below the Pole, and planted a titanium Russian flag on the seabed.

The dive is designed to bolster Russia's claim to 1.2 million sq kilometers (about 460,000 sq miles) of energy-rich territory - the underwater Lomonosov and Mendeleyev Ridges named after Russian scientists - which the country says is the continuation of its continental shelf.

As man-made climate change melts the polar ice, vast reserves of oil and gas under the seafloor are likely to become accessible in future decades.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, speaking from the Philippines, said: "The goal of this expedition is not to stake Russia's claim, but to prove that our shelf spreads to the North Pole." The minister said he hoped the expedition would "allow us to acquire additional scientific proof" of this claim.

Boris Gryzlov, speaker of the upper house of Russia's parliament, said the dive marked a new stage in exploring Russia's polar resources.

"These are large-scale projects to explore and develop the shelf, which meet Russia's strategic interests," the speaker said. "I am proud that our country has retained leading positions in Arctic exploration."

Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay, whose country also has a large section of Arctic territorial waters, dismissed Russia's symbolic flag-planting as a meaningless gesture that does not strengthen its territorial claim.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070802/70229618.html

december
03-08-2007, 12:37 AM
Russian Arctic mission aims to scientifically prove shelf claim

02/ 08/ 2007

MANILA, August 2 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's foreign minister said the Arctic expedition currently underway is designed to demonstrate scientifically that the energy-rich shelf near the North Pole is an extension of Russian territory.

Russian researchers in two mini-submarines dove 14,000 feet under the Pole Thursday to take soil and fauna samples on the seabed, leave a Russian flag and a message to future generations in a capsule, and establish a video link with the International Space Station (ISS), mission organizers said.

"The goal of the expedition is not to reserve Russia's rights but to prove that our shelf reaches the North Pole," Sergei Lavrov said.

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A senior U.S. official said Tuesday Washington would ratify the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea in order to join a commission to examine Russian and other states' claims to Arctic waters. The U.S. also plans to send its own icebreaker to the Pole, also for research purposes, August 6.

Lavrov said Russia would proceed from international law in the shelf decision. Under international law, the five countries with territory inside the Arctic Circle - Russia, the U.S., Canada, Norway, and Denmark, which controls Greenland - can claim only a 200-mile economic zone around their coastlines.

The U.S. geological survey suggested the Arctic seabed contained up to 25% of the world's oil and natural gas reserves, and other mineral riches made accessible as the ice cap melts due to global warming.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070802/70174426.html

cruise4
03-08-2007, 12:39 AM
Canada rejects Arctic flag-planting as a 'just a show by Russia'

AFP
Thursday, August 2, 2007

Canada's top diplomat ridiculed Russia's flag-planting at the North Pole on Thursday, saying the "15th century" stunt does not bolster its disputed claim to the resource-rich Arctic.
"Look, this isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and plant flags and say, 'We're claiming this territory'," Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told broadcaster CTV.

Earlier, according to reports, a Russian mini-submarine reached the bottom of the Arctic Ocean under the North Pole at a depth of 4,261 metres (13,980 feet), to carry out scientific tests and leave a Russian flag.

The dive is believed to be the first of its kind and is part of a voyage that started on July 24 and aims to advance Russian claims to a vast swathe of the Arctic sea bed thought to be rich in oil and gas.


"Our claims over our Arctic are very well-established," MacKay commented.

"There is no threat to Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic and as you know, we've made very strong commitments, the prime minister has been there recently, may be there again (soon), so we're not at all concerned about this.

"It's basically just a show by Russia."

A spokesman for Canada's foreign affairs department added: "Canada's sovereignty over the lands and waters of the Canadian Arctic is longstanding, well established and based on historic title."

There is growing international rivalry in the region as energy reserves grow scarce in other parts of the world and the melting of the polar ice caps makes the area more accessible for research and economic activity.

The Russian expedition hopes to establish that a section of sub-sea territory known as the Lomonosov Ridge, which includes the North Pole, is in fact an extension of Russia.

The expedition set off last week from the northern Russian port of Murmansk.

december
03-08-2007, 03:17 PM
Historic Accomplishment!
Mankind Conquers The North Pole.

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Russia guided by international law in its polar shelf probe

03/ 08/ 2007


MANILA, August 3 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is guided by international law in its polar shelf probes, the country's foreign minister told a news conference Friday.

"When explorers reach an unexplored point they leave flags there," Sergei Lavrov said, commenting on Thursday's probe into the North Pole shelf where Russian researchers left a flag. "No one is throwing flags around."

Canada, which has claimed part of the Arctic shelf since 1925, came down on Russia's expedition, saying Russia sets up shelf borders using 15th century methods. Ottawa said Russia's tactics resemble the Great Geographical Discoveries epoch and have nothing to do with modern politics.

Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told Canadian Television CTV: "Look, this isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory.'"

Lavrov said the ownership of the shelf in the North Pole is defined on the basis of the United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

"As for the legal side of the matter, this expedition is part of important work being conducted on the basis of the Law of the Sea Convention," he said.

Russian explorers dove 4,200 meters (14,000 feet) below the North Pole in two mini-submarines Thursday, planting a titanium Russian flag on the seabed in a symbolic claim to a vast slice of apparently hydrocarbon-rich Arctic territory, which the country said is the continuation of its continental shelf.

Americans, who planted their flag on the Moon in 1969, also did not appreciate Russia's move to leave its flag on the Arctic Ocean floor.

"I'm not sure whether they put a metal flag, a rubber flag, or a bed sheet on the ocean floor," Tom Casey, deputy State Department spokesman, told reporters. "Either way, it doesn't have any legal standing or effect on this claim... It's an issue that's going to be decided based on those technical merits, not on any kind of particular markers laid down."

Casey said the United States was skeptical about Russia's claim to 1.2 million square kilometers (about 460,000 square miles) of territory - the underwater Lomonosov and Mendeleyev Ridges that cross the Pole - but admitted the country was within its rights to pursue the claim.

"...the Russian Government is pursuing a claim under their right to do so as members of the Law of the Sea Convention. This is something that unfortunately, the United States is not in a position to do because we have yet to ratify that convention and it's one of the reasons why we are interested and supportive of having that treaty be ratified by the U.S. Senate," Casey said.

He said it was a technical issue and the U.S. had not had an opportunity to look at technical data provided by Russia to back its claim, which was "another reason why we'd like to be engaged" in those kinds of bodies.

Russia made a claim to the territory in 2001. The following year, a UN panel demanded more scientific evidence pending a decision.

Sergei Lavrov, speaking from the Philippines Thursday, said: "The goal of this expedition is not to stake Russia's claim, but to prove that our shelf spreads to the North Pole." The minister said he hoped the expedition would "allow us to acquire additional scientific proof" of this claim.

Apart from being a publicity stunt, the more than eight-hour Arctic mission was designed to take soil, water and fauna samples on the ocean floor.

As climate change melts the polar ice, vast reserves of oil and gas believed to be under the seafloor are likely to become accessible in future decades.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070803/70295919.html

hagbard_celine
03-08-2007, 03:19 PM
2. Further exploring the Hollow Earth theory; and maybe a discovery?

That's right; it's not actually the real north pole. The real north pole is in space.

Nevertheless, this is going to cause problems. There was trouble enough when the old USSR laid claim to the whole Barents Sea. Under international law, no country can claim territory of any part of the sea further than 12 miles from shore. This why the pirate radio station Radio Caroline managed to stay safe from prosecution: It broadcast from a ship situated outside that limit.

december
03-08-2007, 03:23 PM
Nevertheless, this is going to cause problems.

I know - the Illuminati are not happy about it...

Illuminati lose. Russia wins...

:D

klinker
03-08-2007, 03:24 PM
That's right; it's not actually the real north pole. The real north pole is in space.

Nevertheless, this is going to cause problems. There was trouble enough when the old USSR laid claim to the whole Barents Sea. Under international law, no country can claim territory of any part of the sea further than 12 miles from shore. This why the pirate radio station Radio Caroline managed to stay safe from prosecution: It broadcast from a ship situated outside that limit.

Plus I expect the Russians will need to shift the flag if the poles do actually reverse in 2012. ;)

hagbard_celine
03-08-2007, 03:31 PM
I know - the Illuminati are not happy about it...

Illuminati lose. Russia wins...

:D

Well I think factions of the Illuminati control Russia too, but this shows that the Loomies fight amongst themselves as well as fight us!

Unless this is some kind of agreed set-up, like a new Cold War. It could have been decided to do this because the War on Terror was not "terrorizing" people enough.

klinker
03-08-2007, 03:35 PM
Well I think factions of the Illuminati control Russia too, but this shows that the Loomies fight amongst themselves as well as fight us!

Unless this is some kind of agreed set-up, like a new Cold War. It could have been decided to do this because the War on Terror was not "terrorizing" people enough.

Agreed. There has to be factions within factions with most fighting for the same thing, control and power.

I have also been thinking along the same lines recently that with the so called war on terror wearing thin a new threat has to be invented hence all the cold war type propaganda in the news in recent weeks.

:confused:

december
03-08-2007, 05:56 PM
A Historic Accomplishment!

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december
04-08-2007, 09:43 PM
The British Sense of Humour:

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fairyelfdog
25-07-2010, 11:23 PM
This thread is really old.