Fighting on the Forums

[rasnalgoul]

Ive noticed recently that there seems to be a surge on this forum of people who are bringing a very negative vibe. Im talking of course about certain people who reply to posts with a rude, condescending, and stand-offish maner. I understand that time to time people get frustrated or vent on the forums but it seems to me that are a collection of members who constantly cause fighting and generally act offensively on the forum. This is unacceptable. I cant understand what has happened. Ive been here since febuary and this forum used to be a place of welcoming warm hearted persons sharing ideas and constructive criticism. Ive read a couple of Ickes books and isnt this what he has encouraged? People just letting go of all the bullshit and just sharing. But recently people have been coming here saying hes a fraud, scaremonger, and repeatidly bringing up the reptilian agenda bit. Ill agree that the reptilian bit might not be meant to be taking literally or it could be completely false as some have suggested. I agree there but and maybe people have been focusing too much on it, but who cares, if thats what people are interested in then let them research it. It seems that these certain people are coming here without having read any of Ickes material, and focusing completely on the reptilian part as if its the only thing Icke has ever talked about. These people say Ickes started his own religion that hes fear mongering. Then why is it everytime I read an Icke book I feel relaxed, empowered, and intriuged by the information he presents. How is that fear mongering, how is he working for the agenda by telling us to love each other to not join the establishment to not fight there wars to trust our instiution. Why is it whenever I read the posts from you certain people that I feel put down by the fighting. You say these things of Icke that he disinforms us with reptilian stuff and misleads us. But its you who constantly want to argue these points and try to turn us away saying all Ickes work is nonsense. I take what I like from Icke and Ive never got a bad vibe from his work and never has it hindered me in any way in my life, when in fact it has only helped me to understand things and enjoy life more in all its experiences.

[i_am]

Ive noticed recently that there seems to be a surge on this forum of people who are bringing a very negative vibe. Im talking of course about certain people who reply to posts with a rude, condescending, and stand-offish maner.

Bravo!! :)

You know there is a very simple solution........don't play their game!!

Unfortuately it is human nature to react to aggression with aggression and then it becomes an all-in rant. If everyone just took a few deep breaths and ignored it, didn't even reply, then they would get bored with the game.

[ngawaka19]

good on you mate. Your not imagining things and thank you for your candid truth. You have clarity and generosity enought to be open and honest. We are all here together, and I like to embrace all and all. Just as I would like to be embraced. When I first came to the forum, I saw another kiwi and gave him a private message, asking him, how do you break the ice, why do I feel like I'm a pillock and they don't like me, bloody foreigner etc. But matie its the same ole thing as if your in a room or around a barbi, it takes time to get to know people. I had scraps, because as usual until people understand your humour, compassion and love, they could and most the time will misunderstand each other. Give it time friend, all will be well, there are some really neat people here. But I gotta tell ya, I love the rebels as well, cheeky, but thought provoking. We are all in the same waka (boat, or rather large canoe).
Reptillians.....................they're there alright. Unseen, so they think. I've looked and searched and I have a sneeky suspision, they are there, but they are not what we think they are. They are what we have made.................them.

Higher consciousness.................collectively live in peace...............love all..........forgive all...............ONE LOVE
Don't despair or be afraid, we are the kings, we have already beaten them otherwise why do they hide. Never doubt........

my love to you friend
peace
ngawaka19

[cheesedanish]

Take what you need & leave the rest... there are real gems here to be found!

[lightbeing]

Unfortunately as this forum gets more members, it will attract the 'shit stirrers'!:(
Also, there must be 'intelligence' people on this forum where part of their job is to antagonise people here to fight amongst themselves:(

[freespark]

Ive noticed recently that there seems to be a surge on this forum of people who are bringing a very negative vibe. Im talking of course about certain people who reply to posts with a rude, condescending, and stand-offish maner. I understand that time to time people get frustrated or vent on the forums but it seems to me that are a collection of members who constantly cause fighting and generally act offensively on the forum. This is unacceptable. I cant understand what has happened. Ive been here since febuary and this forum used to be a place of welcoming warm hearted persons sharing ideas and constructive criticism. Ive read a couple of Ickes books and isnt this what he has encouraged? People just letting go of all the bullshit and just sharing. But recently people have been coming here saying hes a fraud, scaremonger, and repeatidly bringing up the reptilian agenda bit. Ill agree that the reptilian bit might not be meant to be taking literally or it could be completely false as some have suggested. I agree there but and maybe people have been focusing too much on it, but who cares, if thats what people are interested in then let them research it. It seems that these certain people are coming here without having read any of Ickes material, and focusing completely on the reptilian part as if its the only thing Icke has ever talked about. These people say Ickes started his own religion that hes fear mongering. Then why is it everytime I read an Icke book I feel relaxed, empowered, and intriuged by the information he presents. How is that fear mongering, how is he working for the agenda by telling us to love each other to not join the establishment to not fight there wars to trust our instiution. Why is it whenever I read the posts from you certain people that I feel put down by the fighting. You say these things of Icke that he disinforms us with reptilian stuff and misleads us. But its you who constantly want to argue these points and try to turn us away saying all Ickes work is nonsense. I take what I like from Icke and Ive never got a bad vibe from his work and never has it hindered me in any way in my life, when in fact it has only helped me to understand things and enjoy life more in all its experiences.

The people you speak of are easy to spot. They cruise the forum all day looking for the slightest opportunity to 'stick the boot' into Icke and his work. They take Ickes work and put a negative spin on it and then call forum members who happen to believe in Ickes theories 'brainwashed cultists'. (This makes me laugh because i very much doubt if any of them even know the people they mock on a personal level - or icke for that matter)

This attitude says to me that they think they are above it all and that we (people who happen to believe in Ickes theories) are all stupid and 'delusional' and so is Icke.

We are all on our own path, our own journey and we come here to share information with like minded individuals. It's a pity that other people who dont share the same views (who think that thier beliefs are somehow better or more true than ours) can't just accept that.

It makes them feel big and clever to kick icke in the teeth. This says more about them than it does about Icke. Shame on them.

[dondaz]

Unfortuately it is human nature to react to aggression with aggression and then it becomes an all-in rant. If everyone just took a few deep breaths and ignored it, didn't even reply, then they would get bored with the game.

I will try!:rolleyes:

Nice thread rasnalgoul;)

[tinmenace]

Ive noticed recently that there seems to be a surge on this forum of people who are bringing a very negative vibe. Im talking of course about certain people who reply to posts with a rude, condescending, and stand-offish maner. I understand that time to time people get frustrated or vent on the forums but it seems to me that are a collection of members who constantly cause fighting and generally act offensively on the forum. This is unacceptable. I cant understand what has happened. Ive been here since febuary and this forum used to be a place of welcoming warm hearted persons sharing ideas and constructive criticism. Ive read a couple of Ickes books and isnt this what he has encouraged? People just letting go of all the bullshit and just sharing. But recently people have been coming here saying hes a fraud, scaremonger, and repeatidly bringing up the reptilian agenda bit. Ill agree that the reptilian bit might not be meant to be taking literally or it could be completely false as some have suggested. I agree there but and maybe people have been focusing too much on it, but who cares, if thats what people are interested in then let them research it. It seems that these certain people are coming here without having read any of Ickes material, and focusing completely on the reptilian part as if its the only thing Icke has ever talked about. These people say Ickes started his own religion that hes fear mongering. Then why is it everytime I read an Icke book I feel relaxed, empowered, and intriuged by the information he presents. How is that fear mongering, how is he working for the agenda by telling us to love each other to not join the establishment to not fight there wars to trust our instiution. Why is it whenever I read the posts from you certain people that I feel put down by the fighting. You say these things of Icke that he disinforms us with reptilian stuff and misleads us. But its you who constantly want to argue these points and try to turn us away saying all Ickes work is nonsense. I take what I like from Icke and Ive never got a bad vibe from his work and never has it hindered me in any way in my life, when in fact it has only helped me to understand things and enjoy life more in all its experiences.

Hi Rasnagoul

They've mistaken us for doormats. Months ago, members tolerated the abuse in a good natured way, but now more and more I see members stranding up to these "agents" and blocking them. We may be trying to live Infinite Love every day, but we're not door mats, and a distinction has been made.

There is no reason to tolerate abuse, not matter how clever or cute the disguise.

The agents are not always the ones disagreeing with David or with us. There are some people fully involved with perpetuating 3D trappings, and have no real interest in anything but their own needs. These types of trolls are more difficult to spot because they operate covertly.

Tin :)

[chris]

I quite like forums when they are very abusive...

David Ickes first forum was a hell hole for abuse but people weren't taken seriously unless they could back up their arguments and so there was a steady inflo of really great information from each contributor on their own area of expertise...I completely ignored the trolls and so would anyone else with any sense.

[synergy777]

its not fighting, but frank, open and robust debate, you f$ck*n sensitive souls, lol

1love, peace

[bennett211085]

I've not been here long, but from what I've seen compared with alot of other forums, there isn't that much fighting on here anyway.
:)

[phoenix1]

In house "fighting " as its put .. was allways on the old forum.. everyone has differing oppinions ???? GOOD I dont want to be android.

Its intensive debate sure... i like intense... it gets things done.. here i'll be banned soon no doubt thtough no fault of mine by whats on my signature. Do you think i will worry ??? Nope ... there will be others here who will know why I got banned.. SOOOOO Dont fuck with the phoenix today!!

[purple is a fruit]

In house "fighting " as its put .. was allways on the old forum.. everyone has differing oppinions ???? GOOD I dont want to be android.

Its intensive debate sure... i like intense... it gets things done.. here i'll be banned soon no doubt thtough no fault of mine by whats on my signature. Do you think i will worry ??? Nope ... there will be others here who will know why I got banned.. they wiil blow a whislte or too on my behalf too. SOOOOO Dont fuck with the phoenix today!!


Go pheonix...woop woop;)

[purple is a fruit]

:)
:)

[tinmenace]

Purps! Where you been girl?! :)

[auron]

If Phoenix gets banned, I will leave.

[cheeb]

hissy fit,
even on the dreamworld of there,
rules still apply....

[purple is a fruit]

Purps! Where you been girl?! :)


having many weird but wonderful experiences my dear......:o Needed time to digest them....as one does with a rather hot vindaloo, but im back, bolder and more weird than ever:eek:

and besides.....I missed you so i had to come back:D

love
Purps;)

[limelady]

Nobody is going to get banned.

This forum is about love, sharing and caring. Please guys, lets
find our way back to that. :)

Infinite love IS the only truth.....we need to remind ourselves of
this EVERY day.

[tinmenace]

I doubt Phoenix will get banned. Nothing wrong with Phoenix. He's a good guy, a good friend, and there's nothing fake about him. He doesn't troll the forum, he just says what needs to be said.

Any retaliation against him for his thoughts would truly let the cat out the bag, wouldn't it? :)


Purps, I missed you too! Glad to see you again. Hugs!

[purple is a fruit]

I doubt Phoenix will get banned. Nothing wrong with Phoenix. He's a good guy, a good friend, and there's nothing fake about him. He doesn't troll the forum, he just says what needs to be said.

Any retaliation against him for his thoughts would truly let the cat out the bag, wouldn't it? :)


Purps, I missed you too! Glad to see you again. Hugs!


A spade is a spade with our Pheonix.......:D;)

Love Purps

[cheeb]

I liked it better when pheonix was on here,
rather than messing about on there,
come home pheonix,
we like you here

[i_am]

In house "fighting " as its put .. was allways on the old forum.. everyone has differing oppinions ???? GOOD I dont want to be android.

Its intensive debate sure... i like intense... it gets things done.. here i'll be banned soon no doubt thtough no fault of mine by whats on my signature. Do you think i will worry ??? Nope ... there will be others here who will know why I got banned.. SOOOOO Dont fuck with the phoenix today!!

:confused: :confused: Did I miss something??

[revolutionary_jam]

at the end of the day the ideal function of this forum is to share thoughts and information. It's easy to get caught up in forum fighting but my advice to everyone is: be the bigger man

Do not get caught up in petty squabbles if you can avoid them, it will drain you of your energy and make you weak/tired/outraged/etc. if someone is being a troll.... don't even bother trying to change their mind, ignore their posts, they're not worth your loving energy.

Best wishes,

Ant

[purple is a fruit]

at the end of the day the ideal function of this forum is to share thoughts and information. It's easy to get caught up in forum fighting but my advice to everyone is: be the bigger man

Do not get caught up in petty squabbles if you can avoid them, it will drain you of your energy and make you weak/tired/outraged/etc. if someone is being a troll.... don't even bother trying to change their mind, ignore their posts, they're not worth your loving energy.

Best wishes,

Ant

beautifully put:D

[phoenix1]

:)

Purps.. WOW !! is it ever cool to see you back sweety.. boy have I missed you around...

hissy fit,
even on the dreamworld of there,
rules still apply....

Well Cheeb .. its a 3D world.. granted.. maybe you aughta lof in There sometime to REALLY see us in action.. up close ..in your face and personal.. we are like emmissaries for here.. if you like.. getting out the word in anyway possible... today In Real life ive been passing round credit card sized cards with cool websites on including this one... At least I DARE TO DREAM .....

Go pheonix...woop woop;)

Darlin do I ever shoot from the hip ???erm. yep... also i shoot deadly accurate too WINK

having many weird but wonderful experiences my dear......:o Needed time to digest them....as one does with a rather hot vindaloo, but im back, bolder and more weird than ever



and besides.....I missed you so i had to come back
love
Purps;)

OMG I cannot wait to see the all new wierder Purps ... wow I just love my wierdness... i worship it like my attitude problem LOL.... bring on the Bold Deep Purple MILES OF SMILES .. Gurl have we missed you...

Nobody is going to get banned.

This forum is about love, sharing and caring. Please guys, lets
find our way back to that.

Infinite love IS the only truth.....we need to remind ourselves of
this EVERY day.


Echo that Lime ... yep lets do exactly that.. you are a Gem Lime .. and a totally honest and fantastic person to know... Lady it is a privelage.:)

I doubt Phoenix will get banned. Nothing wrong with Phoenix. He's a good guy, a good friend, and there's nothing fake about him. He doesn't troll the forum, he just says what needs to be said.

Any retaliation against him for his thoughts would truly let the cat out the bag, wouldn't it? :)


Purps, I missed you too! Glad to see you again. Hugs!

Tinmenace.. say no more .. the exact same thing is true of you there (exept you a gall not a guy lol)..sometimes I say tooooo much (and it spit the whole pip no problem..but i wont) Lucky for what was it ??? oh yeah 7.. but god help people who fuck with REAL people who DO expose some shit. Tin .. you know we are friends for life and don't buy delusion and bullshit

A spade is a spade with our Pheonix.......:D

Love Purps

MASSIVE HUGS @ you purps .. bout bloody time too you showed up lol... Sure hoping you are doing fine you beauty... you. I can post now lol without falling off the puter hahahah . Thanks honey.. we like to be real as it can get eh .Blame the Celtic PhoenixFire lol.. and the spade ?? well its for digging eh. SMILE

I liked it better when pheonix was on here,
rather than messing about on there,
come home pheonix,
we like you here

OK cheeb.. well ok man.. I'll try to post a little more in here too.. I was totally leaving at one point in fact i sighned up to another forum today.. a new one..

Thothweb.com ... Ill be looking round in that forum as Egypt is my total passion... but so is uncovering the lies ans bullshit .

Thanks all for making me stay once again :) I only mean well here.. nothing more nothing less. no matter what a arsehole i may appear as at times .. (sorry all in advance if you are hurt by my conflicts.. BTW,, they are not meant in venom.. though I can spit it if i have too )

:confused: :confused: Did I miss something??

Erm nope i_am... move allong lol nothing to see ... lol (just a sig that went up and down in a fit of pique) thats all.

[phoenix1]

If Phoenix gets banned, I will leave.

Auron ... You are a stalwart mate .. this is not the first time not prolly the last.. you have stuck your neck out for me ... and all others here above too, i'd draw swords together so to speak with any of ya .:D:D:D

Nuff said I think.

All aboard the Skylark lol:):p:D

[phoenix1]

beautifully put:D


I totally agree.. hard it may be .. but yep i totally agree... its hard to keep PhoenixFire down at times but yep.... thats the deal allright.:D:D:D

WOW you guys one minuite i want the fuck outa here the next.... statememts like this... fantastic ..!! YAYY !!!:D:D:D:D:D:D

[tinmenace]

Yay! :D

[lifeofbrian]

Ive noticed recently that there seems to be a surge on this forum of people who are bringing a very negative vibe. Im talking of course about certain people who reply to posts with a rude, condescending, and stand-offish maner. I understand that time to time people get frustrated or vent on the forums but it seems to me that are a collection of members who constantly cause fighting and generally act offensively on the forum. This is unacceptable. I cant understand what has happened. Ive been here since febuary and this forum used to be a place of welcoming warm hearted persons sharing ideas and constructive criticism. Ive read a couple of Ickes books and isnt this what he has encouraged? People just letting go of all the bullshit and just sharing. But recently people have been coming here saying hes a fraud, scaremonger, and repeatidly bringing up the reptilian agenda bit. Ill agree that the reptilian bit might not be meant to be taking literally or it could be completely false as some have suggested. I agree there but and maybe people have been focusing too much on it, but who cares, if thats what people are interested in then let them research it. It seems that these certain people are coming here without having read any of Ickes material, and focusing completely on the reptilian part as if its the only thing Icke has ever talked about. These people say Ickes started his own religion that hes fear mongering. Then why is it everytime I read an Icke book I feel relaxed, empowered, and intriuged by the information he presents. How is that fear mongering, how is he working for the agenda by telling us to love each other to not join the establishment to not fight there wars to trust our instiution. Why is it whenever I read the posts from you certain people that I feel put down by the fighting. You say these things of Icke that he disinforms us with reptilian stuff and misleads us. But its you who constantly want to argue these points and try to turn us away saying all Ickes work is nonsense. I take what I like from Icke and Ive never got a bad vibe from his work and never has it hindered me in any way in my life, when in fact it has only helped me to understand things and enjoy life more in all its experiences.

David Icke has been mentioned as the most controversial speaker in the world. I for one think he is entitled to say whatever he likes. Speak about reptilians or the CFR, it's of equal interest to me. He has also on numerous occasions encouraged other people to speak their minds. Maybe be a little controversial themselves.

What constitutes 'fighting'? Opposing views? Some call them imposing views.

When I was a lot younger I found in myself that I could get quite upset by having my views questioned or opposed. In time it dawned on me that the views I held were still works in progress and I wanted the process to take the time I needed; I was not ready to be given set answers but wanted to make the trip on my own so to speak.

In a forum like this, where David Icke and his work is the reason for getting together to learn and find out more about subjects in detail or further developments maybe, I think it is natural that it is obvious that readers come from all walks of like and may have been reacting differently to what they exposed themselves to when picking up material by the most controversial speaker in the world.

We all react differently to things we find disturbing or information that we may not be ready to contemplate. Some topics may be well known and old news to a handful but sound just crazy and absurd to another.

I do not personally see that as fighting, but more how people go about dealing with information in order to come to terms with it. Or not.

I would imagine David Icke would be the first to tell people to make individual choices; either accept or reject whatever they hear and take personal responsibility accordingly. Going through life open-mindedly does not mean accepting everything at face value either. It simply means not ruling out that one's opinions might change as more data trickles in. Rushing the presentations of information can be stressful and so what I can appreciate is when people let it be known that they do not wish to learn more than what they have arrived at themselves. I think that is a fair stand and should be respected. Conversations can be resumed later or with other interested parties then instead, or dropped all together.

As long as there is communication there are few things that cannot be sorted out, in my experience. Not in a 'win or lose' sense, but as in making it clear that views and opinions can be difficult to interpret in this medium, as in telling if the voice behind something is calm, agitated, speaking tongue-in-cheek, tired, serious, just passing some time on their lunch break and not really settled down for some long philosophical debate. Or whatever. You know?

:)

[cheeb]

Your posts are soreley missed man,
we need you here,
youve seen how its gone,
more info please!!!

[phoenix1]

Ok Cheeb you gottit, i'll try to throw up some good stuff soon, yep ive seen it all get a bit outa shape, as we all have of late, (Thank you for your encouragement) Its nice to know that some of my posts are of value. Im humbled by that sentiment.

I do have a lota good stuff to throw in.. in different areas... and i'll do my best not to neglect posting some info in here..

We are all different drummers in here .. swimming in all directions as ive heard it said in another forum , well thats true enough.

The REAL beauty is that we ARE different drummers... YET we are the same... we are the the pandemomium players , we are the chaos, we are the order, we are all aspects of the same unity, that pervades all things .

We are the fire and the flame.. the earth .. the fluid..the air.. we are elemental.. we are instilled and imbued with spirit.we just are.

We are brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, mothers, fathers, we are support for each other in all areas across the boards, we differ ... all of us... we are unique.. yet the same.. the same.... yet unique. We are all beaming of some wisdom in ways which inspire the whole.

This is the dark.. the light.. this is the macrocosm, its also the microcosm, here we can walk between worlds .. or gain the ability to do so if we look for those elusive yet findable flashing gems... we pick up what's for each and every one of us... the harshest words here are to do with lack of love.

Inspiration ???? Today on this thread........ I found some more.

Will we see a good outcome out of all of this ????? Of course we will ..... ALL is IN ORDER in the bigger picture..according to Sacred Cosmic Law, we have seen the cartoons......we are now in the MAIN MOVIE.

All the Love People... Sent and Meant.

Taking a coupla days timeout Phoenix... I hope its still sweet when I get back roflhho lol:D

:):):) WAVING @ you all !!cusoon:)

[klinker]

I doubt Phoenix will get banned. Nothing wrong with Phoenix. He's a good guy, a good friend, and there's nothing fake about him. He doesn't troll the forum, he just says what needs to be said.

Any retaliation against him for his thoughts would truly let the cat out the bag, wouldn't it? :)


Purps, I missed you too! Glad to see you again. Hugs!

Damn right Tin. ;)

[eternal_spirit]

I'm leaving and I might not be back. I've had enough too many FAKES! I can see them, others can't. Too much falsity, people pretending they know about stuff that they don't really know about.

Not enough true individuals for my liking, too much of a herd mentality and people posting useless information about nothing that relates to anything useful.

Personal petty attacks which take subjects way off track. Seems some are more interested in getting a raise out of someone elses misery. Too many self centred me mine me attitudes.

I've researched as much as I can and feel theres nothng on here I haven't already seen before. Most of you can't see through the crap. Maybe in time you will. I'm used to being ignored, that's how my real life is, so this is just a reflection of that.

Bye for now, hope you all find what ever it is you're looking for.

Over and out ES. :)

[phoenix1]

Damn right Tin. ;)

Thanks Klinker dude.. rock solid as ever man .

:cool::cool::cool::):););)

A

[tinmenace]

Damn right Tin. ;)

Hey Klinker! Good to see you. How was your expedition to the northern opening of the hollow earth?
:D