View Full Version : Complications with the RFID Chip
wideeyes
28-06-2009, 11:21 PM
I was telling my girlfriend the other night about the RFID chip. She doesn't really take much notice of conspiracy theories but she did believe me about this. However, she then confronted me and said "So if it came to you going to jail or fathering our children you would choose jail cos of this chip?"
Erm, how awkward is that? I felt between a rock and a hard place...
I said I would die before having the chip but then I felt really guilty.
Has anyone else had any problems like this?
I really feel it is a moral dilemma.
RFID chip will be marketed in a way that it will be hard to live without it and you look like an odd ball if you have not got one .....same as like mobile phones.....time you get a choice about it you will want one..........
they track you without one anyway , but the chip will be seen as legal like tracking your phone.
anyway you probadly be able to remove it and stick it in your pocket or in the fold of your thumb so its just a gimick anyway plus they can be hacked.........they are not relaying on them
anyway do you carry a mobile phone??? or buy stuff from supermarkets?
andyh
28-06-2009, 11:36 PM
You were spot on wideeyes and if she doesn't like you for saying what you did then the hell with the lass.
I have 4 kids of my own and my wife respects me for having the balls to do what's right. What's right here is also right for your kids, it's that simple.
There's places where this will not happen (at least not initially), it's simply a case of getting away from it and making a stand with those of a similar mind imho.
If I have to go down fighting, I'd rather do it with friends than on my own.
wideeyes
28-06-2009, 11:39 PM
RFID chip will be marketed in a way that it will be hard to live without it and you look like an odd ball if you have not got one .....same as like mobile phones.....time you get a choice about it you will want one..........
they track you without one anyway , but the chip will be seen as legal like tracking your phone.
anyway you probadly be able to remove it and stick it in your pocket or in the fold of your thumb so its just a gimick anyway plus they can be hacked.........they are not relaying on them
anyway do you carry a mobile phone??? or buy stuff from supermarkets?
We shop at LIDL mostly for meat and veg. I carry a mobile sometimes but its only for emergencies. I don't doubt we are tracked by mobiles. I just don't want a chip in my body. If they forced me I would cut it out. Carrying it in your pocket is a good idea but what if they introduce hand scans?
wideeyes
28-06-2009, 11:42 PM
You were spot on wideeyes and if she doesn't like you for saying what you did then the hell with the lass.
I have 4 kids of my own and my wife respects me for having the balls to do what's right. What's right here is also right for your kids, it's that simple.
There's places where this will not happen (at least not initially), it's simply a case of getting away from it and making a stand with those of a similar mind imho.
If I have to go down fighting, I'd rather do it with friends than on my own.
Thanks for the supportive message. I'm sure when shit starts heating up more my girlfriend will start to see things differently. She is a great woman but a little indoctrinated. I love her and love will see us through.
use the skin fold between your thumb and finger....like illusionist do or a plaster
if the scanner goes beep they aren`t going be bothered about you ...unless it does not and or a load of crap comes up about you being wanted
andyh
28-06-2009, 11:44 PM
There are places in rural locations that have started using a local "currency" system.
Simple friendship and IOU goes a long way....
I bet Iceland has a lot of this going on right now.
That girl is scared you're not gonna be there to help her feed those kids. By the way, you don't have any children right now, I take it?
Becuz good for you if you don't. It would be better if children were not brought into this world as crazy as it is and as dangerous as it getting now. They don't stand a chance.
wideeyes
28-06-2009, 11:50 PM
That girl is scared you're not gonna be there to help her feed those kids. By the way, you don't have any children right now, I take it?
Becuz good for you if you don't. It would be better if children were not brought into this world as crazy as it is and as dangerous as it getting now. They don't stand a chance.
I know what you mean but wouldn't that play into the hands of those who want to restrict us. I am scared to bring kids into this world but if we don't have children then who will save the world when we are gone? I know it sounds a bit cliche but seriously...
wideeyes
28-06-2009, 11:52 PM
We can't afford to live in fear
andyh
29-06-2009, 12:04 AM
We can't afford to live in fear
gg wp :)
True, but then again if we don't do anything to try and stop this madness they don't stand a chance anyway.That's why more people I've noticed are filing lawsuits left and right trying to fight for their rights as human beings. This generation needs to fight back and if they win,then more can fight and they can win,too. But if we don't, our children and our grandchildren will be slaves and I can't stand the thought of that.
I not that worried about RFID think theirs other technology s out there that gets little attention that will effect us more...but being forced to accept this is got to be opposed ....we need to keep other forms of payment like cash etc...also I would be worried that some people will be so dumb down they want remember a pin number anyway.....was sorter joking the last part:D
wideeyes
29-06-2009, 12:11 AM
True, I currently am being threatened with court for a contract I didn't lawfully agree to/ I can't wait for them to summon me. Finally some action!! lol
andyh
29-06-2009, 12:18 AM
True, I currently am being threatened with court for a contract I didn't lawfully agree to/ I can't wait for them to summon me. Finally some action!! lol
Did you sign anything?
RFID will probably be used in your work and by council and in a medical way....plus in retail .......unfortunately it probably be used to treat you like a product
wounder if the bastards are already thinking about use by date???
you usefulness is over....please report to the designated euthanasia area....
its just fucking awful...........
joe911
29-06-2009, 12:22 AM
You could have said to her "wouldnt you ask yourself why would the government would be put people in jail for not taking the chip,it is thier body afterall?"
wideeyes
29-06-2009, 12:24 AM
Did you sign anything?
I didn't sign anything.
andyh
29-06-2009, 12:25 AM
I didn't sign anything.
Then there's no contract.
wideeyes
29-06-2009, 12:34 AM
Then there's no contract.
Exactly
tabea_blumenschein
29-06-2009, 04:24 AM
Any comments? (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=113706)
wideeyes
02-07-2009, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the link. You unwittingly saved me from a life of paranoid delusion;)
disorder2k8
02-07-2009, 12:40 PM
whats more dangerous than the RFID, is the forced belief that it will be necessary for any form of progress
doubledrop
02-07-2009, 01:39 PM
Then there's no contract.
If a call centre is based in Scotland then a written signiture is not needed to confirm a contract, did you speak to anyone over the phone who was selling something?
wideeyes
03-07-2009, 12:20 AM
If a call centre is based in Scotland then a written signiture is not needed to confirm a contract, did you speak to anyone over the phone who was selling something?
Yes, however I specifically told them I wanted a T-mobile sim-card. They sent me an orange sim-card, there mistake not mine. Then after a wild goose chase phones4u promised to reimburse the money for their cock-up. This didn't happen....
Earlier this week I rang the debt collection agency and told them I will pay if they can prove I agreed to a contract with Orange.
The call centre guy made a note on my account. The clock ticks till I hear more.
I will update whyen I know more.
wideeyes
03-07-2009, 12:21 AM
I am more than prepared to go to court btw.