Who is Ian Crane?

[baron von lotsov]

Is he:

IAN CRANE

An ex-oilfield executive who has lived and worked in the Middle East, mainland Europe and the USA, Ian R. Crane has spent the past ten years studying mythology, alternative history, ancient wisdom, secret societies and mysticism. Ian has a unique take on many of the catastrophic events that have occurred in the first few years of this new Millennium; where many only see more tragedy and suffering, Ian regards this period of history as the most exciting time since the days of Atlantis; the eventual outcome, he says, is down to each and every one of us!

Extract from: www.glastonburysymposium.co.uk


Dr Susan Anthony
Founder of the Project - a master initiate of diverse spiritual lineages, a doctor of divinity, she transmits sacred gnosis via attunements directly alchemising the mind body spirit complex. Timothy Freke will be lecturing on ancient cover ups, why the gnostics were persecuted by Islam and the Church of Rome, whilst Ian Crane will be confronting the evidence of planetary shadow and the events of 911... Susie'spresentations then bring to life the sacred workings of gnostic initiation. Feel and experience for yourself how these powerful sacred initiations reveal and unlock the mysteries of mind body and spirit. Also - her core work on The 7 Alchemical Levels of Spiritual Awakening, alerts you to your own shadow issues and initiates deep inner healing... Susie's dynamic work is championed and endorsed by Peter Gabriel.

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And now we have Shayler being made a fool of.

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Winston Smith
Posted 30-07-07 18:24 Hide Post
I was there.

Him and Tony Gosling, the author of bilderberg.org, were discussing Revelations and such and I piped in: "I don't think Jesus is coming back."
Dave: "But I'm already here."

It took a while to figure out he wasn't joking.

"Don't you recognise your Messiah?" he asked, with a surprising amount of humility.

Everyone was a bit lost for words.


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[eternal_spirit]

He's wannabe messiah in competition with Shayler lol.
He has money and backing form the Elite, like many authors. Claiming to have the power to heal, through Gnosis which is a masonic theme amongst others. Obviously anti Christian.

first I've heard of him.

[cruise4]

"Ian regards this period of history as the most exciting time since the days of Atlantis"

Can't say I disagree with him on this point.

saying:
Is he:

IAN CRANE

and then referring to someone called IAN CRANE makes it somewhat difficult to understand what you mean. Could you clarify?

[john white]

Shayler's not being made a fool of, hes doing it to himself. I'm full of sympathy for the guy, nonethless too many shrooms and an unstable life style = bad idea!

He's wannabe messiah in competition with Shayler lol.
He has money and backing form the Elite, like many authors. Claiming to have the power to heal, through Gnosis which is a masonic theme amongst others. Obviously anti Christian.

first I've heard of him.

Boh? You know all that and its the first you've heard of him?

Him and Tony Gosling, the author of bilderberg.org, were discussing Revelations and such and I piped in: "I don't think Jesus is coming back."
Dave: "But I'm already here."

It took a while to figure out he wasn't joking.

"Don't you recognise your Messiah?" he asked, with a surprising amount of humility.

Everyone was a bit lost for words.



And is Tony next for you particular style of paranoid buffonery Lotsov?

I think its well past time we asked:

"Who is Baron Von Lotsov?"

Or is hiding behind a screen name pissing on braver men all your good for?

(And that definately includes Dave Shayler)

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=john white;88775]Shayler's not being made a fool of, hes doing it to himself. I'm full of sympathy for the guy, nonethless too many shrooms and an unstable life style = bad idea!

LOL @ shrooms. Okay Oil Executive, probably a Mason?
The Woman is DR sounds dodgy Dr of what some pseudo spiritual science offering salvation and healing. Both sound Elite to me.

What do you know about them JW?

[eternal_spirit]

Also - her core work on The 7 Alchemical Levels of Spiritual Awakening, alerts you to your own shadow issues and initiates deep inner healing... Susie's dynamic work is championed and endorsed by Peter Gabriel.

She says she has the answers and claims to be enlightened, we have shadows, we are not enlightened and are imperfect so we need her teachings to makes us like her. This is Masonic spiel.

Endorsed by the Angel Gabriel lol.

[eternal_spirit]

You know how many authors are funded by Illuminati to put out self help books, this seems like another one. Ask yourself this. If there are so many of these books and teachings then how come they haven't provided any true cures?

And as for ........the Timothy Freke will be lecturing on ancient cover ups, why the gnostics were persecuted by Islam and the Church of Rome, whilst Ian Crane will be confronting the evidence of planetary shadow and the events of 911...

This is the same lame theme of how the gnostics were persecuted by the Church:rolleyes: Which will appeal to the anti Christ brigade and the anti islam propaganda machine. Add the 911 story which will drag in the conspiracy crew too.

Susie'spresentations then bring to life the sacred workings of gnostic initiation. Feel and experience for yourself how these powerful sacred initiations reveal and unlock the mysteries of mind body and spirit.

Now for the hands on approach^^ healing or hypnosis? initiation sounds a bit cult like.

[seanx]

Eternal spirit - it's obvious the Baron has 'coverted' you.

it seems you're now doing his work for him.

Soon you'll be asking us all to repent ...and follow our Saviour
and be saved...or forever be condemed to hell.

The Baron's idealogy.

[eternal_spirit]

Eternal spirit - it's obvious the Baron has 'coverted' you.

it seems you're now doing his work for him.

Soon you'll be asking us all to repent ...and follow our Saviour
and be saved...or forever be condemed to hell.

The Baron's idealogy.
................

LOL Okay I repent for my sins, I've been too harsh on Mr Crane. I don't know the true facts and may have reacted in a off hand manner.

I've little faith in people who claim to offer healing. Seeing and experiencing healing would be the best evidence.

[seanx]

No hard feelings, Eternal spirit.

I'm not being serious.

[eternal_spirit]

I know I'm still laughing seanx.

[raginggran]

Too bad someone with an open mind is not in Glastonbury
to give us an unbiased review of this event.:D

[john white]

Shayler's not being made a fool of, hes doing it to himself. I'm full of sympathy for the guy, nonethless too many shrooms and an unstable life style = bad idea!

LOL @ shrooms. Okay Oil Executive, probably a Mason?
The Woman is DR sounds dodgy Dr of what some pseudo spiritual science offering salvation and healing. Both sound Elite to me.

What do you know about them JW?

I know both of them through the UK 9/11 Truth campaign: Ian's a chair and Dave Shayler has done a lot of public speaking, tv and radio interviews and so on: to be fair to him I don't reckon most poeple would find his life over the last few years much of a picnic, whatever hes going through now hes still a truth hero: a man of courage

Lotsov doesnt like Ian Crane becuase he happens to run an esoteric books business, and to Lotsov that makes him evil : but hes a decent human being, and evidence free character assasination like "Lotsov's" is simple craven cowardice: the act of a shill, whether knowingly or with the puffed up pride of a plumped up ego

However someone lives their life, to a mad paradoid like Lotsov they will be "impure": thats why he doesnt generate the trust or support he thinks he does: who would trust a nutter who would stab you in the back the moment you did something his eggshell couldnt handle? (and thats not hard: he says womens souls arn't worth the same as a mans: a relic from the dark age: Don't have an opinion darlin' and whatever you do, don't contradict me or tell me what an idiot I am!)

Meanwhile, the UK Truth Campaign is built on trust and uniting around common purpose: and doesnt depend on me, Ian Crane or Dave Shayler

Lotsov is such a slave to Adam Smith's (FFS! almost as big a lummie as Charles Taze Russell!) capatalist dogma: I bet he doesnt even consider 9/11 an inside Job!

If anyone really wants to see who Ian Crane is, just watch one of his talks on googlevideo:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7193024010983572797&q=ian+crane&total=65&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5

or

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5029286566927636816&q=ian+crane&total=65&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

Lotsov won't of, heaven forbid he should research someone before smearing them! I know how do-lappy he is becuase he thinks i'm a Mason! (MASSIVE ROFL!)

[cruise4]

"whatever hes going through now hes still a truth hero: a man of courage"

Yes, and I would have thought after seeing what DI went through people might have more understanding and consideration from 'all' angles.

And that includes 'We haven't heard from David directly' and all this could be a completely false perspective on what is actually going on.

Everyone has good reason to thank David. They should reflect on that!

[dondaz]

a master initiate of diverse spiritual lineages, a doctor of divinity,

Sounds very masonic and bloodline to me!

Who wants to be called by that type of name?

Talk about having an over inflated ego. How could anyone take someone like that serious?

Baron Von Lotsof could!:D

A doctor of divinity eh, I wonder if her masters have given her Virtue yet?

The Master Initiate of Diverse Spiritual Lineages, The Virtuose Doctor of Divinity

Would you like that title baron?:D

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit
He's wannabe messiah in competition with Shayler lol.
He has money and backing form the Elite, like many authors. Claiming to have the power to heal, through Gnosis which is a masonic theme amongst others. Obviously anti Christian.

first I've heard of him.

Boh? You know all that and its the first you've heard of him?

lol

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/sideplitter.gif

Don't knock a mind reader:D

Sorry eternal_spirit:rolleyes:

he says womens souls arn't worth the same as a mans

Poor baron, I didn't have you down as thinking a woman isn't as worthy as yourself, but now I know.

Oh dear, your mind is indeed in a pickle, to say the least.

Are you of the philosophy that a good woman should be beaten at least once a day?

[kooo]

Don't knock the Baron, he's one of the smartest people on here. I'd say there are only about 10% of people on this forum that really knows what's going and the Baron is one of them. If the forum was on fire and I had the chance to save a brain, I'd save his.

Come on forum, rip me to shreds.. I know you want to..

[synergy777]

barons old school, he's cool. in fact baron has similar views to me, so he must be cool. as messiah, i think we have over a million messiahs, its the latest craze, what wrong with being ordinary? most of the false messiahs are up their own arse and think because they read a few books, thats it. i was thinking of writing a book, messiah for dummies, i could clean up.

personally to say you are the messiah, is blasphemy,
we are all the creators children, so the messiah thing is a fallacy.

[kooo]

barons old school, he's cool.

Too right, he's my mentor but don't tell him, he'll get big headed.

[synergy777]

its a bit late now innit, lol

[baron von lotsov]

Too bad someone with an open mind is not in Glastonbury
to give us an unbiased review of this event.:D



Oh, there are people like that. I live in Glastonbury!

However you want to know why I was not there. Well it's exactly the same reason I would not walk into Tescos, even if they were doing a mega special offer. Simply put, I refuse to part with any of my money to aid any more of this shit. You can find out the truth for free on here. I'll go along if it is free but I draw the line at rewarding these people. Indeed the last one I went to was a global warming propaganda evening. I was not the only one who was not clapping.

[john white]

put, I refuse to part with any of my money to aid any more of this shit

What utter bullshit! what an excuse to pontificate from ignorance and DARE to call it "truth"

I'm not disgusted very often, but right now Lotsov: you definately disgust me

You owe Ian Crane an apology and you owe it him RIGHT NOW

[baron von lotsov]

Sounds very masonic and bloodline to me!

Who wants to be called by that type of name?

Talk about having an over inflated ego. How could anyone take someone like that serious?



I'll admit there was a little test concealed in that first post. That organisation that he was involved with is part of a known cult, so I thought I'd give you lot a positive to see what you people would make of it. Just as Tyrell gives Deckard Rachael to see if he is smart. Fortunately you appear to have passed the test.

Deckard: She's a replicant.
Tyrell: I'm impressed, Mr. Deckard. How many questions does it normally take?
Deckard: I don't get it...
Tyrell: How many?
Deckard: Twenty, thirty, cross-referenced.
Tyrell: But with Rachael it took more than a hundred.
Deckard: She doesn't know.
Tyrell: She is beginning to suspect I think.
Deckard: Beginning to suspect? How can it not know what it is?

[john white]

You've got no right to "test" anyone Lotsov: you should be in the corner in the Dunce's hat!

Evidence free shilling, thats all you are good for

[rastamasta]

personally to say you are the messiah, is blasphemy,


Shit! This has got to stop. Me agreeing with Syn twice in a week. :eek:

[baron von lotsov]

Blasphemy is a sin.

Icke is the laughing stock of the nation, his version of going to hell I suppose, and all of those maxwellian tricksters he has met on the way. Shayler had an impressive set of credentials and a public and press who would believe him on account that he was not like Icke.

Oh well, it all sounds so fine and dandy at the time. Get them pissed, get them high on mushrooms and then start to get the psychologists and cult leaders to work on them. Did you not know this is standard secret service methodology? A few good-looking women etc and most rational men can be swept along. Only your principles are left to protect you and without them you are anyone's. This is how they operate and they know it is most effective. Once you loose your principles you are effectively loosing your power. A usual one is to get someone to cheat on their wife. Once they have a secret they are forced to lie. One lie leads to another one, they can then blackmail you and so on. Keeping your integrity is essentially keeping hold of your power. Shayler, like Icke is a fool. Icke might now have learnt a valuable lesson but Shayler didn't think. -Big mistake.


Don't let this sort of thing happen to you.

[john white]

OI LOTSOV!

WHERE's YOUR APOLOGY
TO IAN CRANE
YOU FEARMONGERING SHYSTER?

YOU JUST TALK
IGNORANT SHIT ABOUT
WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW!

[baron von lotsov]

I can read normal font sizes John.

[john white]

Yeah and ignore them

Isnt it about time you started facing up to things?