View Full Version : What i dont buy in ickes books.
intuition
01-08-2007, 10:14 PM
Confusing statments
1. Whatever you think of some1else is a reflection on yourself-
So if you think a murderer is a tosser and an evil person thats a reflection on yourself - erm no. Sounds like its a mindgame to keep your mouth shut so you dont defend yourself and express yourself.
2.Its all an illusion- So nothing matters anyway.Nothings important, you are infinite blar blar - Sounds also like a ploy to keep you feeling like nothing matters and you will live forever anyway.Also a way to keep you from standing up for yourself.
3.Reptiles run the world- Well you cant touch them because they are from a different planet and they can morph into a reptile and back to a human being- Makes you feel even more helpless.Its pointless standing your ground, they are too powerful.
barbitone
01-08-2007, 11:18 PM
intuition-the Matrix has you.
james777
01-08-2007, 11:24 PM
I agree, 100%.........
cruise4
01-08-2007, 11:52 PM
I don't go along with the 'pointless if its an illusion' business. Reading a book of fiction is not pointless necessarily. Watching a theatrical production may have some merit. I gather the point here is we aren't seeing the full world that we live in. So its a case of there's more available. Definately worthwhile to pursue then I would say.
Reptiles, as far as I can tell, only exist anecdotaly so far. As I cannot currently know the rationale in the mind of others, this potentially makes it opinion. But either way to defeat an enemy, you first have to identify the enemy... so its all at the research stage.
What you think of others is a reflection on yourself (have I got that right?), is a broad brushstroke term to do with the Oneness philosophy I would guess.
So the idea may be to love the murderer enough to change his desire to be the way he is. I also have a problem with this aspect because it seems a selfish attitude above all else.
Thats my very uneducated viewpoint on your questions. Not very happy with my interpretation of the last paragraph. Hopefully someone can clarify.
kblood
02-08-2007, 12:02 AM
Confusing statments
1. Whatever you think of some1else is a reflection on yourself-
So if you think a murderer is a tosser and an evil person thats a reflection on yourself - erm no. Sounds like its a mindgame to keep your mouth shut so you dont defend yourself and express yourself.
2.Its all an illusion- So nothing matters anyway.Nothings important, you are infinite blar blar - Sounds also like a ploy to keep you feeling like nothing matters and you will live forever anyway.Also a way to keep you from standing up for yourself.
3.Reptiles run the world- Well you cant touch them because they are from a different planet and they can morph into a reptile and back to a human being- Makes you feel even more helpless.Its pointless standing your ground, they are too powerful.
1. You clearly misunderstood that. If you hate or even despise someone, that someone doesnt feel this (unless you also confront the person ofc). You will however suffer yourself from having these feelings clouding your mind.
2. I came to this conclussion myself once... I dont fully believe it anymore though. Not even after reading some of Davids works. In a way it is true (for me) but it doesnt make everything pointless at all, true or not. Those who say or believe so are wrong in my oppinion. Even if we are infinite, then it isnt a reason to waste our existance. I believe part of us are infinite. Our spirit is at least, but our soul might be in danger of fading.
3. Ehh, well. You seem very intend on taking down all of what David says. Yes, I find the theories of David a bit far out myself, regarding this reptillian theory, but it just doesnt make his intentions wrong as I see it. If they are real he is doing a good job warning us about them. If they arent real, or you dont want to believe they are, then dont :) David Icke leaves the choice to you quite obviously. If believing in them makes you fear them, then dont believe them. It probably wont change your day to day life anyway.
Im not David Icke, but that is my response to it anyway. Try reading more of his books and maybe there are better answers there to these questions. I havent read all of "The Biggest Secret" yet, but so far he seems to have done some good research on everything he writes. The best searching is done within yourself in my oppinion though. If you want to have answers about question 2 anyway.
harris999
02-08-2007, 12:37 AM
1. But its your impression on them, so really it is you, in your mind. Everyone see "tossers" differently. Of course your not them, but your view of them is you
2. I agree on this, we are here for a reason, and it does matter. I dont really see how the entire universe, and its many cycles and life forms and just the way everything falls together, could possibly mean that it means nothing.
It is an illusion, as just because you can see something doesnt mean thats all there is.
3. I beleive reptiles run the world, and i beleive that they are powerful. However i believe that they are beatable, if people realised what they are and stood up agianst them. One man wont make a difference but alot of them will.
Also You need to remember in david ickes books, that alot of the writing in them are simply his opinions, and alot of the time he says so. You just need to seperate fact from opinions :D
roxanna222
02-08-2007, 05:42 AM
Or keep it simple. If resonates deep then ok. If not then no. You will know whats up on yout own. Forget icke, us all of it. The info here nice but if you dont know it on a deep level. Wait ok
intuition
02-08-2007, 09:41 AM
Im not saying that this is how it makes me feel, im saying this could be the intention.
Stuck in the matrix? Everytime i here that i think it sounds arrogant.Im a very astute person and very open minded and very much an individual.Thats what makes me question what icke says.
I wasnt saying thats how i felt ! (thats my fault i didnt make that clear).
lumukanda
02-08-2007, 10:58 AM
i think roxanna hit the nail on the head, if it works for you, keep it, if not don't, it's important to question, accepting things that make you uneasy if the readon we're in the mess in first place.