Time to meet the real jesus

[djbrooks]

I would like to share this site with you readers, make up your own mind about this.

http://www.askrealjesus.com

[quetzalcoatl]

I would like to share this site with you readers, make up your own mind about this.

http://www.askrealjesus.com

I think tis a load of shite! :p

[quetzalcoatl]

http://www.askrealjesus.com/K_JESUS_ANSWERS/B_ABOUT_GOD/whocreatedgod.html

Question: We hear about the Creator or many Creators? And did the first Creator create himself?

The Real Jesus :-

Answer: Well if there are many universes there must be many Creators, for how could those universes come into being without being created by a Creator?

The first Creator? My beloved, there was no first Creator. For as Maitreya explains in greater detail, the manifest universes – the universes that are part of the world of form, of separate forms – sprang out of the Allness of God. In the Allness there is no beginning and no end, thus it is meaningless to say that God had to be created.

The old question of who created God springs from the linear, analytical mind, which can only think in linear terms. And thus, everything must have had a beginning and everything must have an end.

You see, my beloved, the linear mind had a beginning, and it will have an end. But God had no beginning and will not have an end.


Duno if I'm retarded or something - but is there a contradiction there? :confused:

[djbrooks]

It would be interesting to know if anyone else find anything contradictory of this site.

[mauviene]

I think scholars have concluded. That if Jesus did exist he traveled to India to get training from Buddhist monks and brahmans..

ARAMAIC RELIGIONS = pwned

Eastern religions= semi pwnage

The dao= unspeakable.

[1977]

I think tis a load of shite! :p
True that!

Elizabeth Claire Prophet's followers have a new scam.

[leviathanstaar]

They had me at:

askrealjesus!

lol

[zetetic0void]

I think scholars have concluded. That if Jesus did exist he traveled to India to get training from Buddhist monks and brahmans..

ARAMAIC RELIGIONS = pwned

Eastern religions= semi pwnage

The dao= unspeakable.


Makes me think of that documentay I saw. There's a tomb in Kashmir with a muslin holy man buried in the north-south direction but also another man buried in east-west orientation as was the Jewish custom ... for this person there is a sculpted plaque with feet showing marks where pierced spots would line up ... as they would if nailed together on the cross.


Fascinating!


I have looked into some things and it does seem the various times of how long Jesus was actually on the cross (varies between differnt books of the New Testament) was actually quite short. Deathy by means of crucifiction occured bcause of asphixiation. Eventually strength gave out and if they broke the legs, yoiu couldn't even support your weight using the legs.... eventually inability to breath was the result after a long time.

There are ideas that the herbs brougt to the body of Jesus were healing herbs.
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In looking at the Gospel of Thomas (one of the very early texts banned and destroyed by the Church ... but copies found in 1945) there are parts that sound very very Toaist.


22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."




I feel that the so called "Father's Kingdom" is just a phrase that represents a concept. In their time and patriarchal culture, maleness was seen as the creative aspect (ie, sperm from the male was the seed and the woman was the vessel ..... this was opposite to the Earth Goddess view which had woman as obviously the aspect of creativity... theoretically neither is fully correct as in reality, it is a combination of both aspects). Obviously, they would label "that which was the creative aspect of all of everything " as male (this is a cultural bias). The word Kingdom also was symbolic of something but not a 'location'.

Essentially, I do not see the "Father's Kingdom" as being an actual place governed over by some male patriarchal "God" with stern look and beard blowing in the celestial breeze (LOL) .... but rather meaning the "state of being and mind where one fully realizes Reality and sees through the relative duality of supposedly separate objects"


Unfortunately the monotheisms have language and built-in details which bias the wordings towards a male-centred cultural bias. In addition, they are human-centred and even specific cultural centred.

From reading the Tao Te Ching, it is apparent that it is stressed that the Tao that can be descrobed by words is not really it. In those writings, it is important to be made aware that words and texts are symbols that represent parts of Reality broken up into little boxes. We may think these boxes we believe represent Reality are Real but they are human invented conveniences.

Thats why I think the writings about the concept of Tao are less biased than the bogged down patriarchal ideas beurried within the monotheisms. You would have to dig down under layers of cultural baggage to get to the basic concpt theere but you are told to do so is a herersy by the social organization. They even burnt people at the state for claiming they had experienced below all the surface layers and felt directly connected to "God" (or Ultimate Reality).
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I do feel that the Roman Catholic Church (and hence, derivative Churches that broke away) were distortions that hijacked and projected an image of Jesus to suit their own agenda of retaining power as an empire of mind if not an empire of physyical territory. Really, if you are an empire of "mental image projectin" having people within various supposed separate nations believing your mental image, why would you need to actually control them in the old fashioned way of physically guarding territory.

It's strange how certain denominations of Christianity will argue against the Roman Catholic Church but they will do so using the same choice of texts in the Bible that the RC Church made. Why don't they go to the Gospel of Thomas or Gospel of Mary Magdalene if they think the RC Church is so distorted? ;)

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In essence, I don't feel Jesus was "THE" son of "God" but "a son of "God" = which means 'having experienced Reality in a direct way bypassing the usual duality we are stuck in ... so being being of the essence of experience close to the basic unbiased creative level of Ultimate Reality.


I see Jesus as another human being like the historical known first Buddha or other buddhas or enlightened mystics throughout time.


Hope that makes sense.


I think language can be interpretted so many ways so I think that's partly the problem with religions ... they get translated from old copies of texts and from other languages and it even through filters of cultural assumption.

[dude111]

Interesting.....

[inverselogic]

I'm surprised the name Maitreya being said didn't set off any alarms here yet. He seems to be at the center of it all.

I could go on about it, but I have not finished my research on the subject.

[mikel84]

I'm surprised the name Maitreya being said didn't set off any alarms here yet. He seems to be at the center of it all.

I could go on about it, but I have not finished my research on the subject.

Beware of False Prophets (WORKING WITH ILLIMUNATI/NWO):
-Maitreya
-Sananda Immanuel aka fake jesus
-St Germain/Galactic Federation of Light
-Obama/Antichrist/Lucifer

[inverselogic]

I do not have a clear opinion yet, so I consider all possibilities as probable.

If revelations is to be taken to contain ANY truth, then Maitreya is most certainly the antichrist.

There seems to be a ton of push towards this. The "emerging church", Oprah's beliefs about a new emerging consciousness, the "new age" movement... all advancing towards the period of total denouncement of god, which comes immediately before the appearance of the antichrist. (in revelations)

I do not exactly follow the bible nor believe it to all be true, but I do have a feeling that we may be dealing with forces beyond our normal perception.

[1977]

At the very least, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Claire_Prophet

Having known people in this group, I can only warn people.

[inverselogic]

Interesting thought here.

Benjamin creme said that Maitreya will first appear as a normal man calling for justice. Then once the world has united, he will reveal himself to us (bluebeam).

Perhaps Obama is the antichrist after all? hah.

[octopusrex]

I think scholars have concluded. That if Jesus did exist he traveled to India to get training from Buddhist monks and brahmans..

ARAMAIC RELIGIONS = pwned

Eastern religions= semi pwnage

The dao= unspeakable.

Dungeons & Dragons? A totally new level of Dao-Mao.

[disorder2k8]

well, the guy's teachings on that site are almost entirely a rewording of the Ra Material and a varied load of New Age generic 'love everyone' gumpf

I dont think the person is bad per se, just a bit nuts.


why is teaching about the Christ consciousness wrong exactly?

[shankara]

In looking at the Gospel of Thomas (one of the very early texts banned and destroyed by the Church ... but copies found in 1945) there are parts that sound very very Toaist.

I feel that the so called "Father's Kingdom" is just a phrase that represents a concept. In their time and patriarchal culture, maleness was seen as the creative aspect (ie, sperm from the male was the seed and the woman was the vessel ..... this was opposite to the Earth Goddess view which had woman as obviously the aspect of creativity... theoretically neither is fully correct as in reality, it is a combination of both aspects). Obviously, they would label "that which was the creative aspect of all of everything " as male (this is a cultural bias). The word Kingdom also was symbolic of something but not a 'location'.

Essentially, I do not see the "Father's Kingdom" as being an actual place governed over by some male patriarchal "God" with stern look and beard blowing in the celestial breeze (LOL) .... but rather meaning the "state of being and mind where one fully realizes Reality and sees through the relative duality of supposedly separate objects"

Unfortunately the monotheisms have language and built-in details which bias the wordings towards a male-centred cultural bias. In addition, they are human-centred and even specific cultural centred.

From reading the Tao Te Ching, it is apparent that it is stressed that the Tao that can be descrobed by words is not really it. In those writings, it is important to be made aware that words and texts are symbols that represent parts of Reality broken up into little boxes. We may think these boxes we believe represent Reality are Real but they are human invented conveniences.

Thats why I think the writings about the concept of Tao are less biased than the bogged down patriarchal ideas beurried within the monotheisms. You would have to dig down under layers of cultural baggage to get to the basic concpt theere but you are told to do so is a herersy by the social organization. They even burnt people at the state for claiming they had experienced below all the surface layers and felt directly connected to "God" (or Ultimate Reality).
--------

I do feel that the Roman Catholic Church (and hence, derivative Churches that broke away) were distortions that hijacked and projected an image of Jesus to suit their own agenda of retaining power as an empire of mind if not an empire of physyical territory. Really, if you are an empire of "mental image projectin" having people within various supposed separate nations believing your mental image, why would you need to actually control them in the old fashioned way of physically guarding territory.

It's strange how certain denominations of Christianity will argue against the Roman Catholic Church but they will do so using the same choice of texts in the Bible that the RC Church made. Why don't they go to the Gospel of Thomas or Gospel of Mary Magdalene if they think the RC Church is so distorted? ;)

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In essence, I don't feel Jesus was "THE" son of "God" but "a son of "God" = which means 'having experienced Reality in a direct way bypassing the usual duality we are stuck in ... so being being of the essence of experience close to the basic unbiased creative level of Ultimate Reality.


I see Jesus as another human being like the historical known first Buddha or other buddhas or enlightened mystics throughout time.


Hope that makes sense.


I think language can be interpretted so many ways so I think that's partly the problem with religions ... they get translated from old copies of texts and from other languages and it even through filters of cultural assumption.


I agree. I'm not that familiar with the Taoism, but whilst reading the Gospels last year I was struck by some similarities between some of Jesus' statements and the teachings of the Upanishads and other statements by Eastern Self-realized teachers.

I also agree with what you said about the Church hijacking Jesus' teaching and distorting them. I said on another thread:

Just thinking aloud here, but isn't possible that even if Acharya is correct about her conclusions, Jesus could have still existed. Maybe Jesus' teaching caused him to gather a large following, and his followers were questioning the traditional political-social structure. Or maybe his teachings pointed to the inner divinity of humanity (many of his statements point to a Oneness or Non-duality). This movement was large and could not be denied, yet it was threatening to TPTB. So they crucified him, and maybe he was physically resurrected or maybe not, but even after his death his followers were still growing in number. They could not eradicate all the Christians, though they tried. So they took their Pagan/Sun-worshiping myths and added elements of Jesus' life and teachings so that his followers or potential followers would get back under control. Maybe Constantine never really converted at all, but just wanted to get Christians become Pagans without their knowledge?

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constan...igious_policy:

"Constantine however maintained the title of Pontifex Maximus until his death; emperors bore the title as heads of the pagan priesthood. According to Christian writers, Constantine was over 40 when he finally declared himself a Christian[195], by writing to Christians to make clear that he believed he owed his successes to the protection of the Christian High God alone[196] Throughout his rule, Constantine supported the Church financially, built various basilicas, granted privileges (e.g. exemption from certain taxes) to clergy, promoted Christians to high ranking offices, and returned property confiscated during the Great Persecution of Diocletian.[197] His most famous building projects include the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and Old Saint Peter's Basilica.

Constantine didn't give his favouritism exclusively to Christianity. After gaining victory in the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, a triumphal arch - the Arch of Constantine - was built to celebrate; the arch is decorated with images of Victoria and sacrifices to gods like Apollo, Diana, or Hercules, but contains no Christian symbolism. The rebuilt Milvian Bridge itself was dedicated in homage to Mithras,[citation needed] and was covered in associated imagery, but nothing Christian. Its inscription carefully avoids the mention of any specific god. In 321 Constantine instructed that Christians and non-Christians should be united in observing the venerable day of the sun, referencing the esoteric eastern sun-worship which Aurelian had helped introduce, and his coinage still carried the symbols of the sun-cult until 324. Even after the pagan gods had disappeared from the coinage, Christian symbols appear only as Constantine's personal attributes: the chi rho between his hands or on his labarum, but never on the coin itself[198]. Even when Constantine dedicated the new capital of Constantinople, which became the seat of Byzantine Christianity for a millennium, he did so wearing the Apollonian sun-rayed Diadem."

[inverselogic]

well, the guy's teachings on that site are almost entirely a rewording of the Ra Material and a varied load of New Age generic 'love everyone' gumpf

I dont think the person is bad per se, just a bit nuts.


why is teaching about the Christ consciousness wrong exactly?


SEE: Maitreya

What this man is peddling is either the one world religion, or satan. We can't be sure. Do some research on that name, but be careful who you believe. I first heard of Maitreya from benjamin creme while researching Lucis Trust (Lucifer Trust). Here is an excerpt about what is expected.



Day of Declaration

At the earliest possible moment, Maitreya will demonstrate His true identity. On the Day of Declaration, the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world.

We will see His face on television, but each of us will hear His words telepathically in our own language as Maitreya simultaneously impresses the minds of all humanity. Even those who are not watching Him on television will have this experience.

Bluebeam or satan incarnate. You decide.

[arty2000]

I would like to share this site with you readers, make up your own mind about this.

http://www.askrealjesus.com

yikes another one.... we gotta em commin out of the woodwork..run for the hills boys and girls:eek:

[choice]

I have a site to check too, it also made me think:

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=167

[disorder2k8]

We will see His face on television, but each of us will hear His words telepathically in our own language as Maitreya simultaneously impresses the minds of all humanity. Even those who are not watching Him on television will have this experience.

This is what Project Bluebeam, is described as being able to do

[mauviene]

Interesting thought here.

Benjamin creme said that Maitreya will first appear as a normal man calling for justice. Then once the world has united, he will reveal himself to us (bluebeam).

Perhaps Obama is the antichrist after all? hah.

LOL Maitreya?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84

Hhaha kid thinks hes the reincarnation of the Buddha. Though of course it is taught that such figures are not individuals but large movements in consciousness.

[mikel84]

LOL Maitreya?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84

Hhaha kid thinks hes the reincarnation of the Buddha. Though of course it is taught that such figures are not individuals but large movements in consciousness.

buddha never existed

[mauviene]

buddha never existed

Yea who knows..

There are historical records of Siddharthas existence but...many mystics believe it is a type of consciousness that embodies a multiplicity of individuals..

[islamvslizards]

I think scholars have concluded. That if Jesus did exist he traveled to India to get training from Buddhist monks and brahmans..

ARAMAIC RELIGIONS = pwned

Eastern religions= semi pwnage

The dao= unspeakable.

i can prove this. its totally true (up to a certain extent)

[armoured_amazon]

They had me at:

askrealjesus!

lol

LOL me too. :D

[metacomet]

It's so hard to read things that sound true but then to struggle with the concept that someone is 'channeling' this information.

I mean yes... this does sound like the truth:

Question: When will the veil be lifted so that humanity can witness the Angels and Masters directly?
Stephen

Answer from Jesus:

The veil will never be lifted in a general sense but only on an individual basis. If the veil was lifted so that all people could see angels and spiritual masters, that would violate the free will of human beings. God has given people free will, and therefore they have the opportunity to descend into a lower state of consciousness that makes it impossible for them to see angels and spiritual masters.

But we are all capable of coming to these conclusions on our own...

Could it be that Christ consciousness really is a part of all of us and this person who created this website is only one example of someone answering questions through Christ?

Christ may just be another word for higher self... we all have a higher self.

When we have questions to ask of the higher self, we sometimes get direct answers. Few people have the trust in themself to ask questions of their higher self... this is again, as the website says, a mode of our conditioning to rely on outside authority figures in spirituality.

*sigh*

I understand that some people don't believe Christ existed, that they think this is BS, etc.

But there is truth on this website.

Just like there is truth in the Bible.

Don't fight it... don't deny it... you are totally free to deny it as long a you want but at some point we're all going to be talking to the higher self. We might as well start now.

[armoured_amazon]

Yeshua left no indication that he would send messages through a 'channelor'. Even the enemy can mimic the friend.

Could it be that Christ consciousness really is a part of all of us...Christ may just be another word for higher self... we all have a higher self.When we have questions to ask of the higher self, we sometimes get direct answers. Few people have the trust in themself to ask questions of their higher self... this is again, as the website says, a mode of our conditioning to rely on outside authority figures in spirituality.

*sigh*

I understand that some people don't believe Christ existed, that they think this is BS, etc.

But there is truth on this website.

Just like there is truth in the Bible.

Don't fight it... don't deny it... you are totally free to deny it as long a you want but at some point we're all going to be talking to the higher self. We might as well start now.

True dat.

[metacomet]

I think what this person on this website is doing is re-teaching Christ-like messages through a first person voice... just to impact us on a different level.

To make us 'feel' like Christ is actually talking to us. How we feel about Christ in the modern age is completely contradictory to how Christ wanted us to feel.

The false idolization of Christ, the belief that he was the son of God (when he told us we are ALL children of God)... these are things the website is handling with incredible tact.

It just seems crazy to hear someone trying to speak for Jesus through a first person perspective *shrug*. But there is truth here.


By the grace of God, and my own free-will choices, I did walk the path, I did attain Christ consciousness and I did ascend back to a our Father’s kingdom. Yet to do that, I had to follow the exact same path that you are now following (whether or not you realize that you are following the spiritual path). I had to take on a physical body, and I had to make choices just like you are now making choices.



I want you to realize that there are many beings in heaven, and I would like you to consider them to be ascended beings or ascended masters. These beings are not fundamentally different from you. They were once embodied on planet earth, and they faced the same trials and challenges that you are facing. I can assure you that some of these beings made the same, and in many cases even more severe, mistakes that you have made. They faced situations that were fully as difficult as the situations you are facing. Yet, the very fact that these people were able to make it back home demonstrates that you too can make it back home.

Let me mention just a few people from the Bible who are now ascended beings and part of the team of which I too am a part. My beloved mother, Mary, is today and ascended master, who is the feminine counterpart of Archangel Raphael. My beloved Father, Joseph, is today an ascended master, and his name is Saint Germain. My beloved Magda is an ascended master, and so is my beloved Paul. The same is true for John the Baptist and John the Beloved. Over the past 2,000 years, a number of people have ascended, and some of them were indeed Christians. The best known is my beloved Francis of Assisi, who is the ascended master Kuthumi.

There are also many ascended masters who were not Christians. The most well-known is no doubt my beloved brother of light, Gautama Buddha. Yes, there is indeed no rivalry between myself and the founder of the beautiful religion called Buddhism. Another one of my brothers of light founded the religion of Taoism, and yet another the religion of Confucianism. I am also a brother of the Lord Krishna, who is my Eastern counterpart. Krishna brought the knowledge of the Christ consciousness to the East, as I brought it to the West.

In heaven, we are all brothers and sisters. On earth, human beings have allowed the relativity of the carnal mind to divide them.

This is true. This is why we pit one religion against another. This is why we don't comprehend that the same Godhead was speaking through all 'religious' icons.

This is also why we don't comprehend that we are all individual expressions of the same Godhead. It's our carnal mind which desires separation. The carnal mind then seeks to unite with spiritual recognition (through sex and other forms of physical attainment). This can only go on for so long before we snap out of it.

[metacomet]

Perhaps Obama is the antichrist after all? hah.

Each and every president in the U.S. has played the role of antichrist to a spectcular degree.

Obama is the first to match every single requirement.

[octopusrex]

Each and every president in the U.S. has played the role of antichrist to a spectcular degree.

Obama is the first to match every single requirement.

Makes sense.

[pipsicle]

Dr. George W. Carey

PART I.

Primitive Christians, the Essenes, fully realized and taught
the great truth that Christ was a substance, an oil or ointment
contained especially in the Spinal Cord, consequently in all parts
of the body, as every nerve in the body is directly or indirectly
connected with the wonderful "River that flows out of Eden (the
upper brain) to water the garden."

The early Christians knew that the Scriptures, whether writ-
ten in ancient Hebrew or the Greek, were allegories, parables
or fables based on the human body "fearfully and wonderfully
made."

These adepts knew that the secretion (gray matter — creat-
ive) that issues, (secretes) from the cerebrum, was the source
and cause of the physical expression called man; and they knew
that the "River of Jordan" was symbolized in the spinal cord and
that the "Dead Sea" was used to symbolize the Sacred Plexus at
the base of the spinal column where the Jordan (spinal cord) ends,
typifying the entrance of Jordan into the Dead Sea.

The thick, oily and salty substance composing the Sacral
Plexus, "Cauda Equina," (tail of the horse) may be likened unto
crude Petroleum, (Petra, mineral, or salt, and oleum — Latin for
oil) and the thinner substance, oil or ointment in spinal cord, may
be compared with coal oil; and when this oil is carried up and
crosses the Ida and Pingala (two fluid nerves that end in a cross
in medulla oblongata where it contacts the cerebellum (Golgotha
— the place of the skull) — this fluid is refined, as coal oil is refined,
to produce gasoline — a higher rate of motion that causes the
ascension of the airship.

When the oil (ointment) is crucified — (to crucify means to
increase in power a thousand fold — not to kill) it remains two
days and a half, (the moon's period in a sign) in the tomb (cere-
bellum) and on the third day ascends to the Pineal Gland that
connects the cerebellum with the Optic Thalmus, the Central Eye
in the Throne of God that is the chamber overtopped by the hollow
(hallowed) caused by the curve of the cerebrum (the "Most
High" of the body) which is the "Temple of the Living God" the
living, vital substance which is a precipitation of the "Breath of



Life" breathed into man — therefore the "Holy (whole) Ghost"
or breath.

The Pineal Gland is the "Pinnacle of the Temple."

[octopusrex]

Dr. George W. Carey

PART I.

Primitive Christians, the Essenes, fully realized and taught
the great truth that Christ was a substance, an oil or ointment
contained especially in the Spinal Cord, consequently in all parts
of the body, as every nerve in the body is directly or indirectly
connected with the wonderful "River that flows out of Eden (the
upper brain) to water the garden."

The early Christians knew that the Scriptures, whether writ-
ten in ancient Hebrew or the Greek, were allegories, parables
or fables based on the human body "fearfully and wonderfully
made."

These adepts knew that the secretion (gray matter — creat-
ive) that issues, (secretes) from the cerebrum, was the source
and cause of the physical expression called man; and they knew
that the "River of Jordan" was symbolized in the spinal cord and
that the "Dead Sea" was used to symbolize the Sacred Plexus at
the base of the spinal column where the Jordan (spinal cord) ends,
typifying the entrance of Jordan into the Dead Sea.

The thick, oily and salty substance composing the Sacral
Plexus, "Cauda Equina," (tail of the horse) may be likened unto
crude Petroleum, (Petra, mineral, or salt, and oleum — Latin for
oil) and the thinner substance, oil or ointment in spinal cord, may
be compared with coal oil; and when this oil is carried up and
crosses the Ida and Pingala (two fluid nerves that end in a cross
in medulla oblongata where it contacts the cerebellum (Golgotha
— the place of the skull) — this fluid is refined, as coal oil is refined,
to produce gasoline — a higher rate of motion that causes the
ascension of the airship.

When the oil (ointment) is crucified — (to crucify means to
increase in power a thousand fold — not to kill) it remains two
days and a half, (the moon's period in a sign) in the tomb (cere-
bellum) and on the third day ascends to the Pineal Gland that
connects the cerebellum with the Optic Thalmus, the Central Eye
in the Throne of God that is the chamber overtopped by the hollow
(hallowed) caused by the curve of the cerebrum (the "Most
High" of the body) which is the "Temple of the Living God" the
living, vital substance which is a precipitation of the "Breath of



Life" breathed into man — therefore the "Holy (whole) Ghost"
or breath.

The Pineal Gland is the "Pinnacle of the Temple."

Also makes sense.

[pipsicle]

Also makes sense.

I like that it unifies Christian and kundalini theory, in which ida and pingala meet in sushumna.

http://sites.google.com/site/swamiramateachings/swami-rama-sushumna

[1977]

Also makes sense.
This is true. Thanks for that quote; that led me to find the book here: The Wonders of the Human Body, Physical Regeneration According to the Laws ... By George Washington Carey (http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=%22truth+that+Christ+was+a+substance%22&sig=0CSr6-MlXckEMs8-zaLP7faqcOA&ei=vLNPSuf3G43YtgPH6eCqDQ&ct=result&id=CfEUAAAAIAAJ&ots=Wpq-O6JbeG)

And again here: God-Man, the Word Made Flesh By George W. Carey, I. E. Perry (http://books.google.com/books?id=BT5DAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=%22truth+that+Christ+was+a+substance%22&source=bl&ots=hDe6DfxoIt&sig=QlNMt_etF7dfHU6whs8MepKzu_w&hl=en&ei=jLJPStyTCIXgsQO2wtSqDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3)

[pipsicle]

This is true. Thanks for that quote; that led me to find the book here: The Wonders of the Human Body, Physical Regeneration According to the Laws ... By George Washington Carey (http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=%22truth+that+Christ+was+a+substance%22&sig=0CSr6-MlXckEMs8-zaLP7faqcOA&ei=vLNPSuf3G43YtgPH6eCqDQ&ct=result&id=CfEUAAAAIAAJ&ots=Wpq-O6JbeG)

And again here: God-Man, the Word Made Flesh By George W. Carey, I. E. Perry (http://books.google.com/books?id=BT5DAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=%22truth+that+Christ+was+a+substance%22&source=bl&ots=hDe6DfxoIt&sig=QlNMt_etF7dfHU6whs8MepKzu_w&hl=en&ei=jLJPStyTCIXgsQO2wtSqDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3)

Thankyou, 1977.

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Part of Carey's theory is that the real divine cosmic law was suppressed. English was originally a sacred language designed to bring humans in tune with the divine, but was reversed, creating an electro-magnetic block at the heart. So, for example, the city of Amor ("Love"), the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church, became "Roma".

Of Constantine, Carey writes:

During the first 300 years of the Christian era all that has
been above written was understood by the real Christians, and
about the end of that time the persecution of these Essenes by
the priesthood became so marked that they met in secret and
always made the sign of the fish.

About the year 325, Constantine, the pagan Roman Emperor,
a monster in human form, like Nero, and the beast of August,
1914, called the degenerate teachers of Christianity together at
Nicea.

Constantine murdered his mother and boiled his wife in oil
because they still held to the original doctrines of the Essenes.
Constantine was told by the Priests of his time that there was
no forgiveness for crimes such as his, except through a long series
of incarnations; but the anti-Christ sought to concoct a plan by
which he hoped to cheat the Cosmic law.

And so it came to pass, after months of wrangling and fight-
ing over the writings of the primitive Christians who clothed the
wonders of the human body in oriental imagery, that the council,
sometimes by a bare majority vote, decided which of the manu-
scripts were the "Word of God" and which were not.

The very important point in the minds of those ignorant
priests — whether or no an angel had wings — was decided in favor
of wings by three majority. The minority contended that, as
Jacob let down a ladder for angels to descend and ascend upon
it was prima facie evidence that angels do not have wings.

Just think, for a moment, upon the colossal ignorance of these
priests who did not know that Jacob in Hebrew means "heel
catcher" or circle, and that ladder referred to the influence of the
signs of the zodiac upon the earth; and as one sign rising every
two hours forms a circle every twenty- four hours (the four and
twenty Elders of Revelation) the outer stars of the rising suns
(sons) "catching on" to the last sons (suns) of the sign ascending.

But now we come to the anti-Christ:

The council of Nicea, dominated by Constantine, voted that
the symbols of the human body were persons; that Jesus was a
certain historical man, a contention utterly and indubitably with-
out foundation, in fact, and that all who believed (?) the story
would be saved and forgiven here, and now. The idea appealed
to the monster Constantine as an easy way out of his troubled
mind and so the scheme of salvation by the actual blood of a real
man or god was engrafted in the world.

Constantine and his dupes saw that the only way to perpetu-
ate the infamy was to keep the world in ignorance of the opera-
tion of the Cosmic Law, so they changed "Times and seasons."

The date that they made the sun enter Aries was March 21st.
Why? March 21st should be the first day of Aries, the head,
April 19th should be the first day of Taurus, the neck, and so on
through the twelve signs ; but these designing schemers knew that
by thus suppressing the truth the people might come to realize
what was meant by "The heavens declare the glory of God."
Again: the moon, in its monthly round of 28^^ days enters the
outer stars (or suns) of a constellation two and one-half days be-
fore it enters the central suns of the constellations that are known
as the Signs of the Zodiac or the "Circle of Beasts." But even
unto this day the whole anti-Christ world (so-called "Christian")
except the astrologers, go by almanacs that make the moon enter
a sign of the zodiac two and one-half days before it does enter it
and thus perpetuate the lie of the pagan Constantine, the anti-
Christ.