View Full Version : Police:mobile jail cells to deal with protesters
fullfathomfive
01-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Quote: "The proposal for short-term "jails" in supermarkets was backed in the Home Office consultation by the British Retail Consortium, who told ministers it should be compulsory for retail shopping centres to provide these facilities as long as they operate according to strict criteria."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/prisons/story/0,,2139044,00.html
Includes proposals for shoplifters, football grounds & protests at defence bases.
Of course "mobile" means they can be used anywhere...
It's all about DNA collection, they probably have a target to get everyones DNA by 2012.
fullfathomfive
02-08-2007, 10:51 AM
As if by magic....
"Police may be given power to take DNA samples in the street."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2139665,00.html
"The Home Office is considering giving the police the power to take a DNA sample on the street, without taking the suspect to a police station, as well as taking samples from suspects in relatively minor offences such as littering, speeding or not wearing a seat belt."
It's only a matter of time, if we allow it.
lumukanda
02-08-2007, 11:02 AM
or you can fight it, get a criminal record for obstructing justice or some sort of shit, and they'll still get your DNA, you won't stop it, but at leat you'll sleep well at night knowing you didn't take it lying down.
many of us are going to have some very tough choices in the near future.
auron
02-08-2007, 01:12 PM
They can collect my sample of DNA from the spit on their badges.
Been listening to Jon Gaunt on Talksport radio this morning and one of his subjects has been about Lord Levy who was arrested recently but didn't give a DNA sample, Jon Gaunt (has connections to the police and licks their asses) is furious that there is one law for the knobs and another for the rest of us and rightly so.
However there have been many callers demanding that everyone give over their DNA and a few have gone further by saying we should all be bar coded and chipped. This was in direct response to a policeman caller who gave an example (emotional blackmail) of a child who had been raped, solution being if everyone was DNA'd they could catch the child rapist. A caller a minute ago said anyone who goes to prison should be chipped and tracked for the rest of their lives. Now there's another caller on right now saying everyone should be DNA'd at birth and also everybody coming or leaving the country. Unbelievable.
Another DNA story in the news today..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=461518&in_page_id=1811
European police get access to your DNA
Police across the European Union are to be given free access to the DNA of four million Britons, a million of whom are innocent, it has emerged.
Every member state will also be granted access to millions of fingerprints, as well as vehicle and driver registrations.
A two-year agreement on cross-border co- operation between seven EU countries now becomes law involving all 27 nations.
The Tories said the so-called "Prum Convention" was a "sell-out", as many of the controversial proposals were salvaged from the wreckage of the EU constitution.
They added that the deal - signed by Home Office Minister Joan Ryan in Luxembourg - also paves the way for police from different EU states to set-up joint patrols.
London MEP Syed Kamall said: "We are sleepwalking into a Big Brother Europe while our government stands idly by."
Britain receives by far the worst deal of the member states.
More than 4.2million people are contained on our database, or 7 per cent of the population. It includes a million innocent people, who were arrested but never charged and 100,000 children.
The database is 50 times the size of its French equivalent. In Austria, less than 1 per cent of the population is included.
Coverage in Germany is half of that. The EU average is to have around half a per cent of the population's DNA stored.
Searches for DNA profiles will be carried out on a "hit, no hit basis" by the 27 member states - which include Romania and Bulgaria.
Police officers will get a simple "yes, there is a match or no, there is not" answer.
If there is a match, there will be a fast-track request system to get all the details.
Driver databases will be accessed online.
Tory European Parliament spokesman Philip Bradbourn said that much of what had been agreed was originally part of the EU constitution.
He added: "Mr Blair has started the constitution sell-out today. Now everyone's personal details can be sent to police throughout Europe because Britain did not wield the veto.
"This Prum treaty fundamentally goes against the rules of data protection and civil liberties that we have come to expect in Europe."
Shadow Home Secretary David Davis added: "This is a serious development which we strongly object to. It is typical of incompetent Home Office Ministers to give away powers like this without thinking through the consequences."
The Luxembourg meeting also rubber-stamped a deal to set-up a common database for visa applicants' pictures and fingerprints.
From mid 2009, it will store digitalised photos and fingerprints of up to 70 million people applying for visas across the EU.
One country would be able to know if someone had already been granted or denied a visa in another, and whether the person had overstayed their time in the EU.
The data will be stored for five years and police will be able to consult the database on a case-by-case basis.
The Prum Convention was originally signed in Prum, Germany, between Belgium. Germany, Spain, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Austria.
Britain had an informal agreement to share DNA, and did so in around 5,000 cases with the Dutch last year, but no firm agreement was in place.
Home Office Minister Mrs Ryan said: "Criminals do not respect borders. It is therefore vitally important that our law enforcement authorities have the tools available to obtain information held by other EU countries as quickly as possible to help with the investigation and prevention of crime."
A Home Office spokesman insisted the deal would not give police from other EU countries unfettered access to national DNA, fingerprint and vehicle registration files and that co-operation would still depend on mutual agreement.
The Government had also ensured that provisions on cross-border pursuit had been dropped, she said.
Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini described the deal as "a very important first step", and said he planned to extend co-operation even further in future.
or you can fight it, get a criminal record for obstructing justice or some sort of shit, and they'll still get your DNA, you won't stop it, but at leat you'll sleep well at night knowing you didn't take it lying down.
many of us are going to have some very tough choices in the near future.
They've got that one covered, protesters will be DNA'd also.
Yes we will have to face some tough choices, to microchip or not to microchip. Those who refuse will find it almost impossible to live unless of course they have a huge stash of cash to buy their ticket to underground living. The rest of us poverty stricken peasants will be left out in the cold.
truthseeker1980
02-08-2007, 02:04 PM
Blimey its all happening faster than i thought, Brown is pushing ahead, they must be scared of us or something, the truth movement is building fast, so that's there answer, stop any of the protesting when the time comes.
Incidently, i used to work as a recruitment consultant, one of my clients was a big company in Cambridge, they own an airfield and loads of hangers where military and civil vehicles are built. I shouldn't really be saying this as it was secret but with all that is now happening i don't give two shits.
During 2005-2006 they had a contract from the government, to build anti terrorist fire trucks for every fire station in the country, these trucks had a special mobile knock out radio frequency in them which would take over all the networks if an attack happened, they had loads of other stuff on them too, massive hydraulic lifts/cranes, fork lift trucks and other stuff in boxes. Anyway half way through the contract when about 50 odd had been built the governemnt pulled the contract, the rumours with the workers was that obviously we were not in as much danger of terrorism as before, so they pulled the contract.
This is the really interesting part though, the government then issued another contract, to build over 90+ prison vans, which was completed, although i haven't seen one of these prison vans on the road yet and the contract finished in early 2006, which makes me think alot about what is happening at the moment.
This is the really interesting part though, the government then issued another contract, to build over 90+ prison vans, which was completed, although i haven't seen one of these prison vans on the road yet and the contract finished in early 2006, which makes me think alot about what is happening at the moment.
That's interesting, these prison vans could be the new mobile police units they are talking about. Although 90 doesn't sound a lot, they are probably building more right now to have enough to cover our cities and every town centre. I bet you a tenner they have facilities to implant chips too.
fullfathomfive
02-08-2007, 02:24 PM
What worries me is that these stories seem to be creeping in under the radar.
Take this one for example regarding a US missile defence base near Harrogate in Yorkshire:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2138292,00.html
I've spoken to a few people about this and they have no idea what I'm on about, yet the implications are critical.
Apart from a few articles, the media as a whole have managed to avoid these stories. I believe that people will agree to DNA sampling, chipping etc. because they haven't been fed the full details or believe everything they are told.
But then that's hardly surprising is it?
The expansion of the European state and large scale immigration is all making sense now. Bastards.
The microchip is the final stage for me, I'll be out of here when they come in.