I felt suicidal this evening ?

[fekdemasons]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

[mystic nomad]

Man that's heavy shit, don't let money get you down, I know that's easy to say but you have your boys........Priceless!

Things will change that's a certainty and all the money in the world would never bring your boys' Dad back, what kind of a legacy is that to leave them with? Turn it into a positive look at the world through different eyes, become more self reliant and teach your boys how to become survivors.

You probably don't want to hear this but the universe is bountiful and abundant and provides for it's children perhaps not in the way you expect but sometimes you just have to let go and trust...

[enga]

Money isn't everything - though certainly it helps with a lot. If you are worried about your Sons futures then remember some of the most rich/talented people started off from extreme poverty and it gave them the edge over others because they had more reason to drive themselves. It can be the making of some people. As long as they are loved and cherished and have their basic physical needs met they will be fine.
I think it is really crappy that you have worked hard and it has gone sour for you and I really feel for you. I'm guessing if things go as you are saying they will that it's going to initially get worse before it gets better which is gonna be extremely stressful which is why you feel the way you do. I understand to an extent because we are really, really struggling too having gone over the overdraft twice last month and a couple times worrying if we were going to be able to get shopping in.
The economy has took a nose dive but it'll be back on the upswing eventually and even if the worst comes to it just think in a few years time after all the trauma you will all be settled again and probably doing better. Your kids will appreciate you at least tried for them even if it went pear shaped - you have done your best.
I wish you lots of love and I hope you feel better soon.

[entrainment]

it is a fucker for sure, like you ive been through a fair bit but ive come to realise that im exactly where i am supposed to be. Makes no difference to the events in my life now or in the future but the realisation, the feeling it brings gives reason to it all.

[silvabak]

ur 10 month old boy knows or cares nothing for money only love and that ur there 4 him :)

look 4 new an better ways of changing ur future never loose hope brother.

[burnttoast]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

Keep enjoying the love you give to your children.....they need you...right now is not what will be.......I'm a paycheck away from the poor house, but I've got 4 children I love more than anything and an amazing wife...on my deathbed money won't be on my mind, but memories of them....

Peace....you have more real things than most...keep it up.

[pinkgeranium]

Huge cyber hug going out to you.


I think many of us on here have felt this way at some point,
YOU are worth so much more than any material possession.

Take this system and make it work for you,
Go on every benefit you can, if the worst comes and you
lose your home (I truly hope you dont).........but loads of landlords except housing benefit.


Dont give up hun, your little boys are so lucky to have a funny, intelligent
wide awake Daddy.


Lots of love going out to you xxxxx

[mrindigo]

I think a far worse scenario for your children would be you not being there. Someone has to protect them and pass on the knowledge you have accumulated. From what I've seen of your posts here, you have a good sense of humor too. I'm sure that would be greatly missed by many close to you.
The world needs people with lighthearted approach to things in these dark times.
It sucks having things taken from us, as it breaks that routine and familiarity we're all used to. I hope you can remember that there are far worse possibilities than having things repo'ed. You can recover from that in time. Until then, I hope you can remain strong, if not for yourself, but for your girlfriend/wife and kids. Best of luck to you and getting this sorted out. :)

[yozhik]

The banks have you by the balls?
Reverse it. :)

LINK 1 ... pdf download - a good book to read (http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/mary_croft.pdf)

LINK 2 ... Expert witness affidavit - How money/debt is created (http://www.brumbywatchaustralia.com/Principality41.htm)

[lizzy]

i am very sorry to hear this fekdamasons.can't add much more than the others......just wanted you to know i sympathise...;)

[mightyoak]

We all feel like that at times I CERTAINLY have done..

Your sons need there dad and DONT ever forget thats a fact of yours n their lives...

Onward n forward sunshine .........

[smoke n mirrors]

Hey fekdemasons,

I don't have any of the answers so I can't give you any meaningful advice. What I can tell you, is that you have a great sense of humor and I'm sure I'm not alone in enjoying your post.

I would be more than happy to have you as my dad, and money would definitely not be a factor!

Fuck the masons, we are going to win this thing and we need folk like you.

.

[smoke n mirrors]

The banks have you by the balls?
Reverse it. :)

LINK 1 ... pdf download - a good book to read (http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/mary_croft.pdf)

LINK 2 ... Expert witness affidavit - How money/debt is created (http://www.brumbywatchaustralia.com/Principality41.htm)

Yozhik,

Do you have, anything specific to the UK and NI similar to the stuff in the second link?

.

[yozhik]

Yozhik,

Do you have, anything specific to the UK and NI similar to the stuff in the second link?

.

Info is still good.
Banking is banking.
Debt creation is debt creation.
This is an affidavit of truth from an expert witness for the defendant, with over 20 years experience working for the Federal Reserve.
The Federal reserve is just like any of the privatised Central Banks, so its all the same system.

[the nine]

Hey fekdemasons,

I don't have any of the answers so I can't give you any meaningful advice. What I can tell you, is that you have a great sense of humor and I'm sure I'm not alone in enjoying your post.

I would be more than happy to have you as my dad, and money would definitely not be a factor!

Fuck the masons, we are going to win this thing and we need folk like you.

.

nicely put..ditto.!

without bad times the good times wouldnt be as good..
also, nobody remembers climbing back down the mountin, they remember the adversity on the way up, as often overcoming it is as good if not better than reaching the top, but at the time, they wished they hadnt started.

try to find inspiration from something which moves you emotionally, this usually works for me..
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (edit:wrong version)
now nobody else knows this so dont tell antbody :D

you are a top poster on here, dont give up :)

[lostworld]

I'm feeling low myself for the moment and not for any specific reason. I always have my downs, and lately it's been worse with a constant feeling of loneliness and emptiness. I'm not the one to give you advice right now, that's for sure...

But I'm gonna say this: I have money but not my father. He died when I was very young and it has always been a major loss & has had a very big impact on me, my relationsships etc. I would give up my money for having him back anytime!

Your children needs you. Money helps A LOT (gives you a certain freedom) and causes a lot of problems and anxiety when you don't have it. But you will survive this.
You did what you did with good intention, and therefore you don't deserve what's happening to you now. Why bad things keep happening to good people and why bad people can get whatever they want, I'll never understand though. :(

Hang on in there and TALK to your family about it if you haven't already. You shouldn't carry this all by yourself.

[smoke n mirrors]

Info is still good.
Banking is banking.
Debt creation is debt creation.
This is an affidavit of truth from an expert witness for the defendant, with over 20 years experience working for the Federal Reserve.
The Federal reserve is just like any of the privatised Central Banks, so its all the same system.

Great news thanks for the info. :)



without bad times the good times wouldnt be as good..
also, nobody remembers climbing back down the mountin, they remember the adversity on the way up, as often overcoming it is as good if not better than reaching the top, but at the time, they wished they hadnt started.

you are a top poster on here, dont give up :)

I ditto you back oh wise one!

If I was better with words, I would have liked to have include some wise words like that, to my original post. :cool:

@ Fekdemasons,

Have you been looking in to the freeman stuff?

.

[deem]

Fuck the money, your lucky to have your health and the love and admiration of those two little boys. So you're getting repossesed, fuck that too it's only bricks and mortar, rent private. Material wealth aint what lifes about. You tried, it didnt work out, fuck it. Just be there for your boys man,You're all they need right now, life is good.

[aee02]

Hey,

I am so sorry to hear of your situation. I don't think I could add any more than what has already been said but to say that you and your family will be in my thoughts. Your family is your treasure and you sound like a good person with people who are more than willing to help you out. Hang in there!

[siriusc]

I've been here myself, you are still young and can turn things around again. Money doesn't solve problems, sure it's nice to have and to feel secure. You sound like a great dad worrying about your sons future, but nothing is secure in these times. All we can depend on is the love and support of our family and friends. Don't fall into the trap of your selfworth being tied to your bank account. Let the fear and worry flow out of you like water and be flexible, your sons will admire you for your spirit!

[secondsun]

I'm financially fucked

....if in the UK?... go Bankrupt!... i am pretty shure they cant take your home!?!

[jolinemaria]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

Sorry to hear that. Money can indeed fuck up a lot of things. I know what it is like to be poor, it really sucks.
Nevertheless, the feelings of helplessness are old feelings that we have been programmed into for ages, generations after generation. Don't make it bigger then it is, that is exactly where they want us, in that space of helplessness and despair.
For now you are alive, you love your family and your family loves you. Enjoy seeing your boys grow up whether rich or poor. Love is the one stable factor in life, all the rest is subject to fluctuations just like the weather.
When you are lying in your grave and your family is remembring you, what do you want to be remembered for? You want to be remembered for the money you brought in or for the love you have given?

Don't draw any hasty conclusions based on fluctuating emotions. Right now, you are the one feeling miserable! Your sons probably don't :). Their life is their life, when they turn 18 see whether it is really true that you have plunged them into a life of debt and misery. You might be up for some surprise.

[simplify]

fedkmasons: the motto I live by, when my back is against the wall is this:

"Never, Ever, let the b........rds get you down, EVER.
don't give them your power by doing anything your children & partner will have to live with.

Draw even closer to your family now. Become as thick as thieves in love, & in difficult times. Draw on this closeness, & the support of your partner to create a whole new beginning.........use the love you feel for your family as a driving force to propel you onward........and never look back. Take small steps at first, & in a short while you will see results.............and you will be smiling again, & you will be proud that you didn't cave in to the corrupt system. You are powerful man......now go to it with love from us all here.

[fekdemasons]

Fuck the money, your lucky to have your health and the love and admiration of those two little boys. So you're getting repossesed, fuck that too it's only bricks and mortar, rent private. Material wealth aint what lifes about. You tried, it didnt work out, fuck it. Just be there for your boys man,You're all they need right now, life is good.

I hear you , I'd be happy paying rent without debt hanging over me.

But Mrs Fek can't face the fact that we will now probs never own our own home. We are having snappy little arguments about this and that and of course she has a stick to beat me with.

I'm sobered up now, but want to thank everyone for the support. I know all this deep down and but If only I'd woken up a bit sooner instead of the last 12 months .

I'm having a strong coffee and feeling a bit embarrassed TBH.

THanks guys !! What a silly old sod I am

[wasp]

I hear you , I'd be happy paying rent without debt hanging over me.

But Mrs Fek can't face the fact that we will now probs never own our own home. We are having snappy little arguments about this and that and of course she has a stick to beat me with.

I'm sobered up now, but want to thank everyone for the support. I know all this deep down and but If only I'd woken up a bit sooner instead of the last 12 months .

I'm having a strong coffee and feeling a bit embarrassed TBH.

THanks guys !! What a silly old sod I am

tell ms fek you will build her a home one nobody can take it away then... get away from it all

[danster82]

The financial system is going to have a massive overhaul, remember there are many in you situation, dont concerns yourself with the debt knowing that it will be changed soon. Try and long out the process of foreclosure, remember your dealing with a machine to find out the laws and request all sorts of information from the mortgage company of verification of debt and such you will probably get another year of free rent just by dragging out the situation.

Theres certainly nothing to fear because theres nothing to lose anymore so just have fun being a pain in the arse for them.

[tracker]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!


OK dude , I see your situation is bad .
But is it ?

money ?

is it just money ------that makes you ------------THE DADDY ?

is it just wealth , that makes you --------------your sons ------guardian ?

is it just property that states your ablity to protect him ?

is it these concepts that makes you---------------------THE DADDY ?


I am not trying to troll you but let me tell you how i was for me-------but at you when my world came crashing down when i had a stroke and had to set aside my career because i was devestated and thought -----oh hell , now i am worthless until i realised the truth about what makes me --THE DADDY .

Being a true daddy , the essance of what you truly are ( to your son ) is the god that will
Love him
care for him
feed him
kiss his injuries when he is young
the protector that keep nightmares at bay
and the guardian that stops the monsters from getting him .

you are the being , that is able to handle hell and high water , pull through real bad times even worse than this and stll ,
Love him
care for him
feed him
kiss his injuries hen he is young
the protector that keep nightmares at bay
and the guardian that stops the monsters from getting him .

the DADDYis the one that can take being jobless , having no money an being skint , the daddy is the being that can help baby trough those times around them and not even let baby know the difference,
because it is pulling through tough times like the one you are in now isexactly what makes you -------------THE DADDY !




Do you know what am trying to say here dude .

YOU ARE THE DADDY !

No one else can take that place .you now have an important part to play in his life , the being that took the part , because you knew , this wasnt a task , it was your job because only you can do it . dont be afraid of this roll to take on , have pride and embrase this honour .life was meant for YOU to take this mission , if it was anyone else , they would have failed which is why YOU are the one chosen to help baby through this time .

you now are facing a time where being the daddy has to be proven , dont be a monster in his life .

the monster that pretended to be a daddy , but then abandoned baby by killing him self . this could make his life empty , without daddy , it is a bad thing to do t baby .

NOW ISE TIME TO STAN UP ! FACE THE STORM ! STAND FERM , !

your baby needs you !

you know what am saying dude .

dont put all your ideas of what a true daddy is and comparing it to riches and wealth ------------because i bet your baby wouldnt think it comes down to that .


peace and love be with you and your family dude .----aways .

:cool:

[fairyelfdog]

Big hug, Fek...

It happens to me too sometimes. Fight it. The light will come back. We are not going anywhere, are we... :)

[brandonh]

I'm financially fucked

Look at your situation for what it truly is.......AN ILLUSION.

In just the last month I have lost my job, my house, and most of my friends. But I have a seven year old little boy and I have never been more close to him than I am now. Focus your energy on the things that truly matter in your life. No amount of money or property can measure how much you love your children.

[largejack]

I think most of us feel the same, we live in a crazy world where nothing seems to make sense, but see it through to the end.

[limelady]

You are experiencing a 'dark night of the soul'. We all go through these times when we need to face our own inner fears. You can and you have it in you to work your way through this and heal yourself and your fears. You will be a stronger person when you have faced yourself in the mirror.

You will be fine fekdemasons.....I just know you will be fine.

Sending you lots of love. :)

[ex sheep]

We participate in a system that is corrupt to the core, as you are one of the lucky one's who can actually see this my friend.

We know the banking system was designed to shaft us starting some 2000 years ago, with the money lenders.

We take out “loans” that nobody has in the first place, to buy a car, which we don't actually own, or a house which we pay these banksters all our hard working life for. Then they bring in agenda 21 which will give them the power to take away property, even although you have paid for it.

We pay taxes for everything, food, fuel, water, housing, travel, communicating, entertainment, clothing, and every item we buy, what a farce.

This system is at this very moment, by design, is beginning to crash, it is not only for a select few, everybody will feel its effect, as in the big master plan.

In my daily life, I see more and more of everything being a con, farce, whatever you want to call it.
Yes I have to participate in it to some degree, but I am aware of the illusion, as I'm sure you are my friend.
So what can we do, I have learned to live on less, I only buy necessary things, no more trinkets, no TV, and getting away from the all material things in life.

I saw a classic example the other day.
My daughter came out of the nursery class looking sad, I asked her what was wrong and she told me that all the other children had a class photo, which we didn't order, and she felt left out.
Going out from the school, I was mad as hell at the system as it is designed to be all group, no individualism that's why the children want “brand names” to follow the sheep.
I explained to my daughter how unimportant these thing are, about following everyone else and that she is an individual, ( but experiencing it collectively) and a smile came on her little face.

Loving everybody is a fantastic thing as I experienced last weekend at the D I meet up, there was so much love everywhere, and so many fantastic peaceful people.
Now more than ever, I know how important unconditional love is, nothing else matters.

David talked a lot about synchronicity and how it affects us, he mentioned that if you go with your instinct, you wont actually fall off the cliff, something always turns up.

Sending good vibes for you.

[tusme]

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!
I'm so glad you do, Fekdemasons...!! ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

FUCK EM...!!

Don't knock yourself mate...imho, it's a blessing that people are FINALLY waking up to how they've been conned...and robbed of their energy...!!

Sadly, and for various reason, too many people won't acknowledge this Truth, thus, "suicide" will seem the only option...unfortunately...!! Exactly how those evil bastards planned the "mass culling of (a "civilised") society"...hoping, also, our children will be as easily manipulated into being their slaves...!! :(

Of-course they will deny this is their objective...but, this is exactly the way "negative energy" works...!! If they know this Truth, then, they should stop what they doing immediately...but will they...!? No chance...!! :mad:

Dust yourself off mate, stay strong for yourself, your Family...and above all, Truth!!

All the best and good luck...!! ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif :)

[wake_up_bomb]

When I was a student, there was a point one term where I completely ran out of money. Couldn't get any more overdraft, had spent my student loan, grant wasn't due for two weeks. Couldn't ask for any money off my mum because she was struggling financially, and I didn't want to worry her. Had nowhere else to turn. All I had was a mug full of one and two pence pieces, and I worked out I could afford one grab bag of crisps and one king size chocolate bar every day. And that's what I lived on for two weeks. I had not the remotest understanding of the financial system at that time, yet I would have been considered by my peers to be an intelligent person.

Whereas today, I've actually made what I consider to be an obscene amount of money out of the ridiculous financial system and housing market. It's not exactly a fortune, but it is obscene, because I didn't do anything at all to earn it. Just bought at the right time, sold at the right time, bought at the right time, sold at the right time.

And I can honestly say, I'm not actually any happier now, because I still see so much misery, injustice and ignorance in the world. And obviously, I have contributed to that.

Plus....this financial system is not going to last, we're going to be driven down to a feudal level by the elite, unless there are big changes in people's behaviour on a mass level. All those people who are all about material things, BMWs and mock tudor houses and summering in Provence, who appear well off now - it's going to happen to them too.

I think the meaning of life is to create more life and then raise and educate it to have all the qualities that are sadly lacking in the world. If everyone did that, we would be experiencing a completely different reality.

You're lucky that you've got the opportunity to do this. I'm too ugly for anyone to want to make babies with!

[pepsirat]

Big hugs im sure you will find a way to servive. Its hard and somtime it seems the world is against you but hold on your kids need you and you have a lot to give.

You might find a answer just be open to change.

Take care

[belfast atheist]

your family need you more than money, always remember that mate. keep strong.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

I know how you feel.

[cafetimes1991]

Hope you feel better soon, fekdemasons. I often feel suicidal as a result of bullying at school (and the people on this forum can be pretty mean too...).
At one point I was going to start taking Prozac, but thankfully decided against it.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Hope you feel better soon, fekdemasons. I often feel suicidal as a result of bullying at school (and the people on this forum can be pretty mean too...).
At one point I was going to start taking Prozac, but thankfully decided against it.

Sorry to hear that, I know what that's like.

[simplysimon]

One thing that I find helps is to remember that it's not your problem if you can't pay the debts, it's their problem :)

They are the ones trapped by money, we are the ones aware that it's a fiction and a trap. We also know that there are other ways of surviving without the need for money.

[cafetimes1991]

Sorry to hear that, I know what that's like.

Thanks. :o

[fairyelfdog]

Hope you feel better soon, fekdemasons. I often feel suicidal as a result of bullying at school (and the people on this forum can be pretty mean too...).
At one point I was going to start taking Prozac, but thankfully decided against it.

Hugs to you. I know what you're going through.

[disorder2k8]

yes i can only repeat what others have said, its not the end of the world when you lose a 'thing' as long as you have all your legs and arms, you can survive

misery is a state of mind

[steevo]

Hi fekdemasons

If my house burnt down and I lost all my material "wealth", I wouldnt bother building it up again. I would live very basically, and be happier probably. If money is an illusion, then so is debt. Fek possessions!

The SUPPOSED financial "debt" that the majority of the populations have is all an illusion. Yes they may "repossess" your home but you kids will manage, they will adapt, and so will you Fek. We ALL adapt. Adapt to this and use it for your own self growth. We have to start saying "fek it, I'm gonna LIVE" :)

[simplysimon]

yes i can only repeat what others have said, its not the end of the world when you lose a 'thing' as long as you have all your legs and arms, you can survive

misery is a state of mind

Indeed, the fear of change can be paralysing. We have to adapt to a new world and IMO, the harder we try to hold on, the more stress we create for ourselves and the less we are able to change.

It's all good :)

[Anders Lindman]

Make sure you remain strong. Be prepared to become homeless. Be prepared to have your children become homeless. And be prepared to tell everybody to fuck off, because otherwise they can suck the living life-force out of you. All people on this planet are in incredible suffering at the moment. Stay away from all people! Of course if you have children, it will probably not be possible to stay away from them small evil trolls. And your spouse, you may have to put up with. But at least refuse interaction with your parents, grandparents, relative and friends.

[Anders Lindman]

It's a bit extreme advice, but if people really are suicidal, then very forceful measures are needed.

People in this world are all psychic vampires. Not because they are evil, but because they have an empty pit inside them that tries to suck energy all the time from everywhere.

We need to cure our OWN vampirism and become strong enough to stand on our own feet, not having to lean on other people as Michael Tsarion described it.

[lostinstrangeworld]

It's a bit extreme advice, but if people really are suicidal, then very forceful measures are needed.

People in this world are all psychic vampires. Not because they are evil, but because they have an empty pit inside them that tries to suck energy all the time from everywhere.

We need to cure our OWN vampirism and become strong enough to stand on our own feet, not having to lean on other people as Michael Tsarion described it.

Even when you love someone deeply only for them to hurt you with their apathy and other priorities?

[tusme]

Hope you feel better soon, fekdemasons. I often feel suicidal as a result of bullying at school (and the people on this forum can be pretty mean too...).
At one point I was going to start taking Prozac, but thankfully decided against it.
Hey CafeTimes1991...

"Bullying" is a negative energy...an energy which, even bullies themselves don't realise, prey's off other's energy...for them, it all simply a physical process... :(

Sometimes, even the mere act of acknowledging it, energizes such negative energy...unfortunately.

Focus on your Spirit Truth energy...it WILL sort out such negative energy, which in turn, will let you get on with knowing, being and expressing Truth...as you're already expressing in such a very powerful way, on this DI forum and your "Teen Infowarrior" show...!! ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Stay strong my friend...soon, Truth will be looking at people like yourself to help and guide others away from exactly the same negative energy...so they too, can trustingly know, be and express their SPirit Truth energy...!! ;) :)

[strengthofknowledge]

Suicide is never the right answer. NEVER.
first, look at what the illuminati want..they want everyone dead so just by Living and Living free we won....second, look at kids in parts of africa and other places.....not even having the luxury of Water..... so take a second look at how bad your life is..


start growing your own foood
be happy all the time to influence your children, never let them see you down....

also, this will be Every family around the world before long if you dont have investments with the Elite...

[diamond dogs]

I only get to see my two boys once a week and I miss them terribly at times.. You have your boys with you, try to see the positive of that because it don't cost much to go to the park and enjoy times with them...something that they will always remember...you have alot of friends here...so try and be positive :)

[Anders Lindman]

Even when you love someone deeply only for them to hurt you with their apathy and other priorities?

When being suicidal you must make sure you yourself get strong first. Otherwise you will just drag other people into the abyss. And don't rely on other people for they are psychic vampires.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Suicide is never the right answer. NEVER.
first, look at what the illuminati want..they want everyone dead so just by Living and Living free we won....second, look at kids in parts of africa and other places.....not even having the luxury of Water..... so take a second look at how bad your life is..


start growing your own foood
be happy all the time to influence your children, never let them see you down....

also, this will be Every family around the world before long if you dont have investments with the Elite...

Sometimes I think that the physical reality seems like a prison; maybe we'd all be better off dead.

Then I think....there just has to be a purpose for all this.

It doesn't make sense that infinite consciousness would chose to manifest all this for no reason.

[Anders Lindman]

Vernon Howard - Right Ideas for a Right Day - YouTube

[cafetimes1991]

This might sound inexperienced (I'm a teenager, it's natural apparently) but Don't Sweat the Small Stuff...and it's All Small Stuff: Simple Ways to Keep the Little Things from Taking Over Your Life: Amazon.co.uk: Richard Carlson: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518g9754zEL.@@AMEPARAM@@518g9754zEL really helped me.

[Anders Lindman]

This might sound inexperienced (I'm a teenager, it's natural apparently) but this book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dont-Sweat-Small-Stuff-Stuff/dp/0340708018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246103584&sr=8-1) really helped me.

Hey, I actually got an audio version of that book. :) I think I will listen to it again.

[cafetimes1991]

Hey, I actually got an audio version of that book. :) I think I will listen to it again.

Cool. I didn't know here was an audio version. :cool:

[lostworld]

Sometimes I think that the physical reality seems like a prison; maybe we'd all be better off dead.

Then I think....there just has to be a purpose for all this.

It doesn't make sense that infinite consciousness would chose to manifest all this for no reason.

You say exactly what's on my mind, fellow lostie. :cool:

"Living free"? It doesn't feel like we're free, even if the most of us here sure are a lot more free than the ignorant and fooled sheeple at least. But they seem happy in their own little world, as intended (the Elite wants them occupied and not be thinking. At least we question things...)

[decim]

Lay of the pop for a while fek..


Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Desiderata
written by Max Ehrmann

[adbasque]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

You know suicide is never the answer, besides don't be selfish, if you really adore your kids, they want their daddy not the money.
remember money goes and comes, even if sometime life seem to be an endless loop with no issue, there's always a way out believe me, I am speaking from experience.

and you're not the only one facing these kind of things, this should give you more determination to fight these bastards, if you kill yourself, that means they've won.
Do you really want to give them the satisfaction?
they will just laugh at you they will probably a joke about it while stuffing their faces with caviar and steaks.

Don't even think about it, think about the ones who love you and don't be selfish be a man instead or (woman)

[deca]

If you are in the UK try these, they really helped me ,I was on my arse getting demanding letters,phone calls , one step away from having my house repossessed etc .......They look at all my bills out goings and sorted out payment plans that I could afford.........I only pay £1 a month on some of my debts but this allows me to pay the the others and live.....

The system loves kicking when you`re down its a bastard but you have to be strong for your kids, you are not alone and their is genuine help out there.

so please give these a go, might be useful if you live outside the uk or they may be a similar organization ...These are free and not a debt management company and will give you free legal & finical help and will be on your side.


http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/
The Citizens Advice service helps people resolve their legal, money and other problems by providing free, independent and confidential advice, and by influencing policymakers.

[fairyelfdog]

Anders here knows what he is talking about. This is the time to be selfish.

[Ian2day]

My advice would be what ever happens do not contact the samaritans. Go into one of those internet chatrooms and just babble away on mindless drivel when you feel really low until you are able to speak to someone who you already know face to face in the flesh. Sometimes strangers are not what they seem. There are all sorts of characters claiming this that and the other. Energy vampires are everywhere.

[enga]

When being suicidal you must make sure you yourself get strong first. Otherwise you will just drag other people into the abyss. And don't rely on other people for they are psychic vampires.

To an extent I agree. Others can be incredibly supportive too though at times, especially by phone. I think in person you may feel more sapped. When I've been around certain people I actually feel physical exhaustion and have to go away on my own to recover.

[Anders Lindman]

Anders here knows what he is talking about. This is the time to be selfish.

That's correct. If you really can be unselfish, then your depression isn't that deep and certainly not suicidal.

[Anders Lindman]

To an extent I agree. Others can be incredibly supportive too though at times, especially by phone. I think in person you may feel more sapped. When I've been around certain people I actually feel physical exhaustion and have to go away on my own to recover.

I would recommend to especially unplug the phone. ;) The phone is a killer, causing a lot of stress.

[curtaincat]

Suicide is never the right answer. NEVER.
first, look at what the illuminati want..they want everyone dead so just by Living and Living free we won....second, look at kids in parts of africa and other places.....not even having the luxury of Water..... so take a second look at how bad your life is..


start growing your own foood
be happy all the time to influence your children, never let them see you down....

also, this will be Every family around the world before long if you dont have investments with the Elite...


This is a really good answer, but the thing is, the westerners cant exactly compare themselves with the third world.

If you grow up feeling guilty because you have enough to eat, and that there are starving people, then the MSM keep that going, the guilt that just because you can eat and have a roof over your head, it is your fault that the others are starving. I grew up with that and ended up never eating, even now I hardly eat. I cant trust charity to give money to them, it goes to admin and the fuckers giving westerners guilt.

Never lay that trip on people in here, everyone suffers in their own way, just like the OP,
just don't compare ... cos it just makes it worse. Westerners suffering is valid and just as yuckily true. and the innocent westerners didnt do anything, it is the evil ones in the first place.

Otherwise a great post :) not hassling you, just a rant, cos i feel the pain of everyone.

[clint_giles]

whenever !!!!! that thought crosses your mind.......... look at your kids faces or call them if your not around them.

Im almost postive that ,the suicidal thoughts your having will disappear fast.

[Anders Lindman]

Cool. I didn't know here was an audio version. :cool:

Richard Carlson died in 2006. :eek: I listened to some of the audio book again, and one problem, which could have been what killed him, is that he talked about playing roles. For example, to make other people feel better. On the surface that can look as a good advice, but it's actually to be dishonest. This dishonesty, often in the form of role playing, can be very detrimental for our health I believe.

[Ian2day]

Richard Carlson died in 2006. :eek: I listened to some of the audio book again, and one problem, which could have been what killed him, is that he talked about playing roles. For example, to make other people feel better. On the surface that can look as a good advice, but it's actually to be dishonest. This dishonesty, often in the form of role playing, can be very detrimental for our health I believe.

Although I've not read it The Celestine prophecy is meant to cover some of this emotional role playing that goes on.

[Anders Lindman]

Although I've not read it The Celestine prophecy is meant to cover some of this emotional role playing that goes on.

I have read that book, but sorry I don't remember so much from it :o except it was about a number of spiritual laws or something like that.

[killuminati18]

If you have 2 boys dont be that bitch to screw your life...i know it sounds heavy, with no heart...etc but its the fukin truth man.

[fekdemasons]

Richard Carlson died in 2006. :eek: I listened to some of the audio book again, and one problem, which could have been what killed him, is that he talked about playing roles. For example, to make other people feel better. On the surface that can look as a good advice, but it's actually to be dishonest. This dishonesty, often in the form of role playing, can be very detrimental for our health I believe.

Anders,

Spot on .. I really sold myself out. I should have been conservative and surrounded myself in a stress free life.

I suppose I had been holding it together for all these months and last night I got home and it just poured out

I'd like to thank everyone for their support , its really quite overwhelming.
I'm going out to a party tonight and feel lot better.

Anyone got a tenner for some tinnnies ??

[anahata]

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.


They say we pick our parents and that we have something to learn from those beings. Show them that even through the hardest times, you have the strength to assure them they are safe. No matter what happens, they will have your love.

Life is what you make of it, every moment is an opportunity to either sink or swim, the human condition makes us forget the good times in the heat of the bad.
Some people have nothing at all to remind themselves that there is something to hold on to. You on the other hand have two little angels who need your guidance.

It is a harsh world, there are lot’s of people feeling alone. Some of those would swap their situation for yours in an instant and that might not help but appreciate the things you do have.

It is a beautiful thing to be able to let go and reduce the fear death. For me, upon realising death is not the disability it's made out to be, I try to take things less seriously but I have the luxury of not really having my money tied into much. I wish I could advise you on how to get out of your money problems, if I could I would.
Some of the poorest people in the world have nothing to be repossessed, and if they did they'd appreciate the clean water.

Don’t be afraid to ask people of help, some are too proud to admit they are in trouble and consequently are not only financially stressed but find themselves mentally drained from the worry.

My love goes out to you all.

As long as there is hope, there is a will.
Where there is a will, there is a way… and you’ll find it. :)

[rhydra]

I know I'm more valuable dead than alive, my insurance covers suicide, but I have a few thing stopping me. So it looks like I'll be sticking around a while.
If I could do it without loose ends I'd do it like a shot, but I can't.

[lizzy]

Hey fek.....ask ms fek to read this thread, it might help her too.;)

[Anders Lindman]

Another useful trick is to be fully legal in all one's actions. Then even when people find me arrogant, cold, selfish, irritating or unpleasant, I'm still legal! :)

[anthony65]

Anders,

Spot on .. I really sold myself out. I should have been conservative and surrounded myself in a stress free life.

I suppose I had been holding it together for all these months and last night I got home and it just poured out

I'd like to thank everyone for their support , its really quite overwhelming.
I'm going out to a party tonight and feel lot better.

Anyone got a tenner for some tinnnies ??

I wish I could oblige! :)

Good to hear that you swung back up again...

Children who lose their parents when they are young tend to suffer a lot in later years, even when they are consciously unaware of the connection. A parent who commits suicide is an even bigger factor. At a subconscious level the child is very likely to feel some connection to the parent's decision.

I'll give you a boost! :)

[smoke n mirrors]

I know I'm more valuable dead than alive, my insurance covers suicide, but I have a few thing stopping me. So it looks like I'll be sticking around a while.
If I could do it without loose ends I'd do it like a shot, but I can't.

I hope the lose ends are about defeating, the tyranny that they think they are going to impose.

Once we have done that, there will be new lose ends, as we adjust to the changes.

.

[love life]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!


Your transition is one solution, but there are so many others available to you. The choice is always yours to make. No one has any power over you, but `they'd' like you to believe that they have. Change the way you feel and think about your financial situation. Reverse it. Or, if this is too difficult, ignore it completely and enjoy your life. Look to your kids and love your time with them. Who cares about money? How cares about debt? If your feelings and thoughts pertaining to these subjects are not positive ones you need to be rid of them asap.

If you decide to focus your `Self' elsewhere then know that your sons will be fine. They are far more aware than you currently understand.

Embrace contrasting experiences as positive events, no matter how they present themselves to you. You've never been in a position to create more wealth, so get to it.

[deem]

I'm having a strong coffee and feeling a bit embarrassed TBH.

THanks guys !! What a silly old sod I am

Dont feel embarrassed fek. Iv have been in a similar situations myself. Your a brave man to reach out to the guys on the forum. Im glad you did, you dont have to suffer in silence. You're not alone, we're here for you man.

[lostinstrangeworld]

This life is tough.

I think we're going through a sort of labour of consciousness right now...giving birth. :D

[jesuitsdidit]

if u r in UK i dont think going bankrupt is such a big deal
even if you get jail 4 5 yrs its not the end of the world
just do an open uni degree or something
if u r in US i guess it cd b harder as their social security net is pretty ropey

basically 'they' created the cheap credit
so morally u r not 2 blame 4 taking it

i am surprised yr wife is loading it all onto you when presumably you make major decisions together
if owning yr own home was so important to yr wife
it sounds like she's more attached to the house than you

i'd def go 2 Citizens Advice if u r in UK or access their w/s if not
theres lots of help available 4 these kind of things

its gonna develop into a huge issue anyway coz loads r gonna b in yr shoes
and eventually the truth will come out
and the real criminals (ptb) will be exposed

we r all suffering
we r all living in a distorted world
run by arseholes
they really are
i mean who, in power, with humanity could behave the way they do
its beyond belief
but its a system and it has deep roots n we r here to weed it out

you have just fallen into one of the holes of that system
how could you consider ending your life bcoz of them?
why let those scumbags have any influence over yr actions

i'm sure you will find the support u need if u look around
just stay calm, talk 2 a few good friends and make a plan

Citizens Advice Bureau would be my first move
and anyway WE need your help
so dont walk out on us..

if you feel like you r making no headway come back to me
n i will talk it thru with you..

and as they say

fek the NWO..

[coco]

Fight it. Check into Yozhik's advice, if it doesn't entirely apply to your country there are certainly sites and agencies that can advise you properly in your country. File bankrupt if need be, they probably can't take your house in your country. Bankrupty process is a giant pain in the neck, I will not lie but when you receive that document stating you are relieved of the debt you will rejoice. I did.

It's an adjustment and you WILL get through this. Your children and wife need YOU not money. You can't eat money nor love money or be loved by money. Money is not love. The bond you and your wife have is above and beyond money and the love you two have created your beautiful sons.

You're a decent, loving and responsible man who thought he was really doing a good thing for his family's future, it backfired. It's not over yet. You CAN work out of this. You're made of stronger stuff than you realize.

I've been though devestating financial hardship myself and I can tell you adjustments must take place as a result and you will persevere!

I have full confidence of this, sir.

P.S. Thank you so much for telling us of this. See how much we regard you? It was very important for you to get this off your chest and you chose us. We are the lucky ones. Thank you. :)

[gods sun]

i gotta get out of my job i cant wake up every morning to washing dishes.

[sithnemesis]

fekdemasons

Your life is more precious that any mountain of money...

Money is a scourge... happy to have it, to feel its power over others but you dread it as you wish that it never runs out or changes hands...

http://www.centropian.com/religion/issues/wright/passion_scourge.jpg

[steevo]

Here is a video by Gregg Braden. After the first 10 mins of the video (where he talks about the holographic nature of everything) he shares some stories about things that happened to him and explains things about them. He explains why our most difficult challenges come at a time when we APPARENTLY are least able to cope with them. This is actually part 4 of a 4 part video which lasts nearly 4 hours in total. But anyway here is part 4 :-

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=995720026852395221&ei=cp5HSp36IMTA-AaSm5X-Bg&q=gregg+braden+awakening+to+zero+point&hl=en&dur=3

[lhaull]

It'll get better.
Ride it out Mate.
Myself I'm coming out the tail end of it, selling my house this week with luck.
Will have enough to help the animal sanctuary and move in to a small rented cottage.
I've been going through it for 18 months. Been a hard road, I lived on crisps for 3 weeks. Lost a lot of weight, so very tired.
But it is the time for it.
We are moving through a period where some of us are being put through the fire, to come out the other side as toughened steel.
Ruining your clothes because the weather is bad is pointless. So no suicide please.
Stay positive, and surender to the good. If you can't see the sun because of the storm do you think the sun will never return?
No, you know like I do that everything is a phase. And just as there are up's there are down's.
So tighten your belt, and keep going, let what needs to fall away do so, sometimes you can't get what you need when your life is full of things you think you wanted.
Through my financial turbulance, I have met and made a dear friend who I would not have met if I hadn't come down this road. I am stronger for it, less concerned and more at peace.
Yes there are still hungry days, but they pass as everything does.
Thank your stars for what you are going through, and don't for a second believe that it is a fault of yours. Whatever anyone says to the contrary, we ARE going through a shift and this is only the begining of posts like this.
Learn what is important, because it sure as shit ain't 'The Plan' we had for our futures. If it is time for your soul to clear the decks and remove everything which is not needed for you and your family, then you can fight it, or you can surrender with thanks for it and keep your positive sight on what is arriving.
Serioulsy man, I'm coming out of it now and its been 18 hard months but I am still smiling, and so will you if you see the good.

Blessings.

[jesuitsdidit]

Here is a video by Gregg Braden. After the first 10 mins of the video (where he talks about the holographic nature of everything) he shares some stories about things that happened to him and explains things about them. He explains why our most difficult challenges come at a time when we APPARENTLY are least able to cope with them. This is actually part 4 of a 4 part video which lasts nearly 4 hours in total. But anyway here is part 4 :-

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=995720026852395221&ei=cp5HSp36IMTA-AaSm5X-Bg&q=gregg+braden+awakening+to+zero+point&hl=en&dur=3

why is this relevant Steevo?

[griswald]

Hello Everyone,

I'm financially fucked , I invested in overseas property for the future of my family (or so I thoiught) Haaa !!!

I'm not a material person , I just wanted to make a future for my loved ones.

Now I cant complete on the properties cause the banks and developers have got me by the balls "!1!

I have a 10 month old son who'm I adore and a five year old likewise , I should be enjoying them growing up. Sadly I feel like I've subjected them to a life of debt and misery. I'm 37 and will be repossesed within 6 months almost certainly.

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

I know why I'm here you bstds !!!!

It took balls to post what you did fek.. Which means you have the courage to put your energy into the things that matter for you and your family, and you will come through this.

Respect to you buddy.

griswald

[nectars]

I am no longer afraid to die , the only thing stopping me is my two boys.

Excellent dude! NOW your in a place of Power my friend. As others have pointed towards, its at this stage we grow the most. You now have nothing to lose, so tell me, what do you want for your kids(and yes I'm a father whos been there several times)? What would you do for nothing? What would you do if you had everything? Now go make it happen!