The Egyptians and The Celts

[lightgiver]

The idea that the Egyptians and Celts were connected in antiquity and that they spread around the world is not a new idea; it has been noticed by many scholars over the years.

Due to the declassification of ground penetrating radar, data has come forth to show us that huge underground tunnel systems and complexed underground cities existed thousands of years ago right under our feet. Places such as Guatemala in South Americas, tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal, which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This tunnel system now sheds light on how half a million Mayan Indians escaped the decimation of their culture.

SIRA radar was used in 1978 to map a subterranean compex beneath the Egyptian Pyramids as early as 1978. . At a recent meeting in Australia, one of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtak, showed film footage of work in progress called, CHAMBERS OF THE DEEP, due to be released at the end of the century. As of yet, this footage has never come to light.

The film reveals the discovery of a vast megalithic metropolis, 15,000 years old, reaching several levels below the Giza plateau. While the rest of the Nu-Age speculates about a hidden chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx, the legendary "City Of The Gods", lays sprawled beneath. Complete with hydraulic underground waterways, the film shows massive chambers, the proportions of our largest cathedrals, with enormous statues, the size of the Valley of the Nile, carved in-situ. Researchers, risking their lives with lights and cameras, carefully negotiated rubber dinghies across subterranean rivers and kilometer-wide lakes, to penetrate sealed chambers beyond. Already, remarkable caches of records and artifacts have been found.

From these records, as well as the Sumerian, we know there was an era the Egyptians called Zep Tepi, "The First Times". During this time a mysterious group of 'gods' appeared , bringing with them their sciences, traditions and laws. We can find evidence of this time and these gods throughout the world...From Thoth and Osiris in Egypt to Quetzacoatl and Virococha in the Americas.

Evidence now show us that prior to the deluges great and high tech civilizations existed. One of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtakthe,said this was a culture who cracked the genetic code and possessed the keys of the physical spectrum, the "Higher Light Physics" of the ancients... After the departure of the Anunnaki, much of the information was lost. What wasn't has been secretly and selfishly guarded by the 'keepers of knowledge' which is of course the shepherd kings of the Anunnaki.

The knowledge that has been preserved has been used by the 'elite' to create illusions, fulfill prophesy and manipulate the masses. In essence the 'elite bloodlines of today' are the self proclaimed 'gods' of the ancient times. The basic rule of thumb...knowledge is power..and the 'elite bloodlines' have this knowlege thus the power.. They will not share it with us because by doing so it will take away their 'god-like' status . After all what would the world come to if we all were given the knowledge and power of a god. Well..what has the world come to allowing the 'elite' ie as the Bush's and other members of One World Government to have and use all this power? Our moral structure, our social structure and our , economic structure is all based on a house of cards, a foundation built on lies to the public.


As was promised, all things shall be revealed in the end days. Many discoveries today are now coming to light. What we have found out is that the discoveries in Egypt and other parts of the world not only evidence an advance technology, but an evolutionary path beyond our present state. Careful scientific examination of the world's key pyramid sites, reveal them to be sophisticated harmonic structures, not only mirroring positions of the planets and stellar systems but, designed to mimic the chakras and harmonic cavities of the human body. Even each stone within the Great Pyramid is harmonically tuned to a specific frequency or musical tone. The sarcophagus in the centre of the Great Pyramid is tuned to the frequency of the human heart beat.

Astonishing experiments, conducted by Dr. Hurtak and colleagues at the Great Pyramid and other sites in the South Americas, demonstrate the pyramids to be voice-activated "geophysical computers." Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures.

The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light". Known to the ancients as HIBURU. It is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle. Modern research confirms, the most ancient form Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system.

Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The "keys" Enoch speaks of, turn out to be sound keys, keys to be vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World". The Enochian knowledge describes sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affect the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states.

As the ancient texts declare, "If you would speak with the gods you must first learn the language of the gods." DNA, the ancient cabalistic "Tree Of Life" portrayed in the Biblical Torah, is now coming to be viewed as a live vibrating structure, rather than a fixed tape recording. Many modern scientists, regard DNA as a shimmering, waveform configuration, able to be modified by light, radiation, magnetic fields or sonic pulses. The legacy of Thoth/Enoch suggests this "language of Light", the harmonic science of the ancients, could actually affect DNA.

The knowledge of Thoth/Enoch implies humans are meant to evolve beyond our present terrestrial form, as the Bible tells us, "we may become greater than angels". The Egyptians record stories of the "Star Walkers", occasional individuals who, like Enoch, travelled "beyond the Great Eye of Orion" and returned, to walk like gods amongst men. Despite the bleaching of semi-divine beings from modern consciousness, could it be possible, as the ancient texts insist, we are destined to "become as gods"? are the Mayan "Lords of Light" and the Egyptian/Tibetan "Shining Ones" really a higher form of human or a hybrid (alien god/man) ?

According to many earth legends, such beings ,sometimes called Avatars, are supposed to return regularly, at the beginning and end of each time cycle, the 13,000 year half-point of our solar system's 26,000 year zodiacal orbit around galaxy centre. Because of conditions on our galactic orbit, these 13,000 year intervals or "worlds", seem to be separated by cataclysmic upheaval.

According to the "calendar in stone" of the Great Pyramid, which describes the so-called "Phoenix Cycle" of our galactic orbit, the present time period ends (converted to our present calendar) in the year 2012 AD. The Greek word PHOENIX, derived from the Egyptian word, PA-HANOK, actually means, "The House of Enoch". This does NOT mean the world will end...but the Age . We should then be entering the Age of Aquarius...an Age which promises to be filled with Hope and Love. We have now entered this Age.

The Enochian knowledge suggests, these regular cataclysmic changes act as an evolutionary agent provocateur, to quicken the resident life forms to the next evolutionary phase, prior to exodus from the womb planet. The evidence now appearing, records civilisations before us, who mastered the physical continuum and progressed beyond this world.

The discoveries emerging from Egypt, describe the existence of a world wide pyramid temple system in prehistory, mounted like antennae on the key energy meridians, which were employed by ancient priest-scientists as a musical system to stabilize the tectonic plates of the planet... cataclysmic geology at it's finest. From the mother tongue word JEDAIAH, meaning "the way of the Word" or "the power of the Word", the ancient JEDAI priests used the language of Light to tune the planet like a giant harmonic bell.

Reference: Ground Penetrating Radar Showing Ancient Civilizations, Paul White

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dann.html
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm


GROUND PENETRATING RADAR FINDS THE ATLANTEAN TUNNELS.

Satellites, planes and the space shuttle can do remote sensing using radar imaging, radio waves, infrared and thermal infrared to see underground. It is believed HAARP does this too. Multispectral scanners are also used and even ice is penetrated. A tethered blimp attached to a jeep will also allow underground viewing. One can probably guess that this is a reason, the insects, frogs and birds are becoming extinct as X Rays do cause cancer. It has been used in Antarctica, Greenland, Mt. Ararat, Eastern Sahara, Egypt, Guatamala tunnels and for Mayan causeways. Microwave radar has been used to penetrate Saharan sand. It can use 500 MHz. NASA (started by Nazi scientists) uses this radar. Paul White wrote the declassification of ground penetrating radar has revealed a complex and labyrinthine underground system in various parts of the world. Dr. James Hurtak was involved in using this to find a 15,000 year old subterranean complex under the pyramid at Giza, a legacy of Atlantis. It's rumored he encountered 'Thoth" down there. There were massive chambers the size of our largest cathedrals. Paul White writes that hi-tech Flood survivors of the previous civilization arose "after the dust settled" to become the gods of ancient Sumer, Egypt and India. Tunnels under the Mayan pyramids extend 800 km across the country.
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/pinegap13.html

[astrochicken]

Great post!

Correct me i'm wrong, but i was under the impression that there no-one was EVER found in a pyramid.
Checking out the eqyption antiquities websites, they're just spreading bullshit about this tomb, that burial chamber
etc. etc. The whole Mummy franchise from the 1920's onwards... what a brainwash.. bloody brilliant and then silencing
archaelogists by bumping them off and blaming it on "the curse of the mummy" LOL.

"And these big pointy structures are... eh.. umm..eh.. for burying kings in"


Some more:


Chambers and passageways detected by sophisticated seismograph and ground penetrating radar (GPR) equipment in the last few years established the accuracy of the plans. Egypt is also successfully using sophisticated satellites to identify sites buried beneath the surface at Giza and other locations. The novel tracking system was launched at the beginning of 1998 and the location of 27 unexcavated sites in five areas was precisely determined.

Nine of those sites are on Luxor's east bank and the others are in Giza, Abu Rawash, Saqqara and Dashur.

The printouts of the Giza area show an almost incomprehensible mass of net-like tunnels and chambers crisscrossing the area, intersecting and entwining each other like latticework extending out across the entire plateau.

With the space surveillance project, Egyptologists are able to determine the location of a major site, its probable entrance and the size of chambers before starting excavations.

Particular attention is being focused on three secret locations:
1.an area in the desert a few hundred meters west/southwest of the original location of the Black Pyramid, around which is currently being built a massive system of concrete walls seven meters high covering eight square kilometers
2.the ancient highway that linked the Luxor temple with Karnak
3.the "Way of Horus" across northern Sinai


Google maps link to the Black Pyramid and the surrounding concrete walls (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Dahshur,+Giza,+Egypt&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.176059,79.013672&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FTD5xQEdBKDcAQ&split=0&ll=29.781438,31.201215&spn=0.008921,0.01929&t=h&z=16&lci=com.panoramio.all)

[jp13]

Are there any pictures of this underground place available anywhere?

[greydove]

Thank you for posting this. I have come across the alleged connection between the Celts and the ancient Egyptians before.

Here: http://nileship.org/

"The founders of Scotland of late medieval legend, Scota with Goídel Glas, voyaging from Egypt, was depicted in a 15th century manuscript of the Scotichronicon of Walter Bower.
This story might have some basis in the arrival of the Roma people in Europe. There is also some resemblance of clothes of the ancient Egyptians and the traditional Scottish."

Make of that what you will.

Also here about Scota from wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scota

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"Scota, in Irish mythology, Scottish mythology, and pseudohistory, is the name given to two different mythological daughters of two different Egyptian Pharaohs to whom the Gaels traced their ancestry,

allegedly explaining the name Scoti, applied by the Romans to Irish raiders, and later to the Irish invaders of Argyll and Caledonia which became known as Scotland.

The Scota who was allegedly the wife of Mil is named as the daughter to a pharaoh named 'Nectanebus' (a name which might be meant to identify either Nectanebo I or Nectanebo II), and in this myth it was the sons of Mil and Scota that settled in Ireland."



http://cottageviews.com/Artists%20Photos/Sandy%20Denny.jpg

Sandy Denny, the beloved English folk singer with Scottish ancestry also appears to address this connection in her work.

Northstar Grassmen and the Ravens

http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-north-star-grassman-lyrics-sandy-denny.html

Does anyone know the significance of the north star to the ancient egyptians?

[lightgiver]

If you do the research there are definite connections;)

http://phoenicia.org/celts.html

http://phoenicia.org/phoeegypt.html

The Phoenician Origin of Britons

http://books.google.fr/books?id=lvBySVkW4CkC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=Phoenicians+and+Egypt&source=bl&ots=TLegLzF-qO&sig=pWp1TXf7N5TUVIcfp_pVMckzRKc&hl=en&ei=vstDSv3TL46sjAfU453BDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9

Good Posts BTW

On your North star question,could it be,something along the lines of measuring night time hours?or could it be,The "North Star" of the period was α-Draconis, also known as Thuban, though it was 2° away from true North at the time of Khufu. However, rather than the use of one star, Spence proposes that two circumpolar stars were used, and that an imaginary chord was drawn between the two as they rotated about celestial North. When the two stars are vertically aligned, an alignment with the stars of a plumb-line will be exactly oriented to true North. Then, because of precession, this method will become increasingly inaccurate with time.

By the looks of the Songs Lyrics it is more likely to do with Navigation.

http://burro.astr.cwru.edu/stu/advanced/pre20th_ancients_egyptians.html

Phoenicians discovered and used the North Star (Polaris) to keep their bearings at sea,

Needing some way to keep track of their commerce, the Phoenicians developed an alphabet, which the Greeks later adapted for their language and which in some ways shaped the English alphabet.

The merchant city-states had a long history of trade with the great ancient empire of Egypt. In the 16th century B.C., the Hyksos invaded, using horse-and-chariot warfare, and conquered an area including Phoenicia and Egypt. Egypt overthrew the invaders and took over Phnoenicia.

http://www.ghazi.de/phonecia.html

NOTE 1: Our Rockefeller textbooks tell us that nobody in the ancient world had ever crossed the Atlantic before Columbus. But the voyage of the Mayflower only took 60 days. Are we honestly to believe that no one had ever previously taken the 60 day trip in all of human history?

and one can imagine if the Rockefellers have had their fingers on anything it is bound to be corrupted ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9lSC75qesY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0fsOvNE9wg

Dantian, Dan Tien or Tan t'ien (Chinese: 丹田 Dāntián ; Japanese: 丹田 Tanden; Korean: 단전 DanJeon; Thai: ตันเถียน Dantian) literally means "cinnabar or red field" and is loosely translated as "elixir field". It is described as an important focal point for internal meditative techniques and refers specifically to the physical center of gravity located in the abdomen (about three finger widths below and two finger widths behind the navel).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3HgWh_Vz8

Whereas tummo is generally described within the context of various Buddhist tantric systems, particularly the 'Mother tantras' (Wylie: ma rgyud), and most widely taught within the Kagyu lineages, although a popular manual was written by Tsongkhapa, founder of the strictly monastic Gelug sect. The context for the practice is rooted in the Mahayana precepts of universal compassion and the experience of the transcendental wisdom of Sunyata (Emptiness). The Buddhist tantric systems present several different models of the chakras, and for tummo the 'energetic winds' (prana, rlung) are being accumulated at the navel chakra, four fingers below the navel. In Tibetan Buddhism the primary purpose of tummo is to gain control over subtle body processes as a foundation for very advanced mystical practices analogous to Completion stages of 'highest yoga tantra' (Anuttarayoga Tantra). Such refined internalized yogas are practices to support entry into the highest contemplative systems, for example the Dzogchen or Mahamudra systems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhL7BpjnXB0

[oilydoyley]

this really interests me;

so where does the vikings and the viking invasion come into it?

regards

[lightgiver]

this really interests me;

so where does the vikings and the viking invasion come into it?

regards

Maybe Start a thread about it ;):)

On your Question I did do a little search and came across this,

EGYPTIANS IN BRITAIN

Word comes of a new book set to cause immense controversy in archaeological circles. Penned by Egyptologist Lorraine Evans, KINGDOM OF THE ARK describes how a group of Egyptians reached Bronze Age Britain by boat around 1330-1300 BC. Moreover, those involved are thought to have been followers of the Pharaoh Akhenaten, who arrived in the company of his daughter, the princess Merytaten. She was the royal wife of Smenkhkare, the relatively unknown Amarna king, who succeeded Akhenaten to the throne after his death around 1350 BC. Lorraine Evans believes that the followers of Akhenaten’s monotheistic Aten faith were escaping the religious persecutions of Horemheb, the pharaoh who succeeded the kings Tutankhamun and Aye following the death of Smenkhkare.

As absurd as this proposal might seem, Lorraine Evans has collected together considerable evidence to back up her theories. She outlines the controversy surrounding the discovery in September 1937 of three intact sailing vessels at North Ferriby in Yorkshire. Archaeologists who examined them at the time were convinced that they were of Viking origin. Due to the war effort, and the fact that the museum where the boats were housed got bombed out, the matter went unresolved. Then in the 1950s it was realised that some of the vessels’ timbers had been transported to the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich before the bomb struck. Samples were thus sent to the British Museum for analysis. The results stunned everyone, for the wood provided Carbon-14 dates in the region of 1350-1300 BC (later confirmed using re-calibration processes). Moreover, in the 1980s Dr Sean McGrail of the Institute of Archaeology, Oxford University, noted the similarity between the Ferriby boat remains and the design and construction of high-prowled, seagoing vessels built by the ancient Egyptians. Indeed, he compared them directly to the planked boats found at Giza. Add to this the discovery of faience beads from Akhenaten’s city at Tell el-Amarna found in Late Bronze Age barrows near Stonehenge and a necklace of similar faience beads found during 1955 in a Bronze Age burial in Tara, County Meath, Ireland, and the likelihood of Egyptians visiting Britain becomes more realistic.

More at: www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/news3.htm

http://morris108.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/was-moses-monotheism-from-a-pharaoh/

A little about Egyptian boats on this Vid,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZywBdsu9g5A

[2013]

I seem to recal reading somewhere that josephs technicolour dreamcoat was based on tartan design? Also check out the red haired mummies .
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesegypt.html
:D

[decim]

The Basques & Picts are linked to these mysteries also.

http://www.bobhay.net/_downloads/_genes/G18%20Mystery%20Men%20of%20Europe.pdf

Basque flag

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/Flag_of_the_Basque_Country_svg.jpg

[lightgiver]

Interesting links thanks peeps :D

CELTIC nations such as Scotland and Ireland have more in common with the Portuguese and Spanish than with the Celts of central Europe, according to a new academic report. Historians have long believed that the British Isles were swamped by a massive invasion of Iron Age Celts from central Europe around 500BC. However, geneticists at Trinity College in Dublin now claim that the Scots and Irish have more in common with the people of north-western Spain. Dr Daniel Bradley, genetics lecturer at Trinity College, said a new study into Celtic origins revealed close affinities with the people of Galicia. He said : "It's well-known that there are cultural relations between the areas but now this shows there is much more. We think the links are much older than that of the Iron Age because it also shows affinities with the Basque region, which isn't a Celtic region." He added : "The links point towards other Celtic nations, in particular Scotland, but they also point to Spain." Historians believed the Celts, originally Indo-European, invaded the Atlantic islands in a massive migration 2500 years ago. But using DNA samples from people living in Celtic nations and other parts of Europe, geneticists at the university have drawn new parallels. Dr Bradley said it was possible migrants moved from the Iberian peninsula to Ireland as far back as 6000 years ago up until 3000 years ago. "I don't agree with the idea of a massive Iron Age invasion that took over the Atlantic islands. You can regard the ocean, rather than a barrier, as a communication route," Dr Bradley said. Archaeologists have also been questioning the links between the Celts of eastern France and southern Germany and the people of the British Isles and the new research appears to prove their theories. The Dublin study found that people in areas traditionally known as Celtic, such as Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Brittany and Cornwall, had strong links with each other and had more in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. It also found people in Ireland have more in common with Scots than any other nation. "What we would propose is that this commonality among the Atlantic facade is much older, 6000 years ago or earlier," Dr Bradley added. There are also close links between Scotland and Ireland dating back much further than the plantations of the 1600s when many Scots moved to Northern Ireland in search of fertile farming lands, the research showed. However, the researchers could not determine whether fair skin, freckles, red hair and fiery tempers truly are Celtic traits. Stephen Oppenheimer, professor of clinical socio-medical sciences at Oxford, said that the Celts of western Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Cornwall were descended from an ancient people living on the Atlantic coast when Britain was still attached to mainland Europe, while the English were more closely related to the Germanic peoples of the interior. He said : "The English are the odd ones out because they are the ones more linked to continental Europe. The Scots, the Irish, the Welsh and the Cornish are all very similar in their genetic pattern to the Basque." The study headed by Dr Bradley was published in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/comments.php?op=showreply&tid=16840&sid=2146411686&pid=2325&mode=&order=&thold=#16840
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146411686

and through this type of study http://books.google.fr/books?id=7-Jg8CjzENMC&pg=PA244&lpg=PA244&dq=Matrilineal+DNA+test.&source=bl&ots=EWAWMiLgIb&sig=L3KDZnIzON9gn7mdT51ZZPszNaw&hl=en&ei=gWFFSoeUOqW6jAfmn7xi&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1,the links are now being made.

[mind1universe]

One very very flawed point in that whole post,was you stated that the "scots" moved to N.Ireland during the plantations were scotish or celtic.


They were not. They were originally English raved from their lands and dumped in Scotland. They were Presbyterians. When the Anglican church over ruled Englland and Scotland. The Royal famiily were head of state. The Presbyterians were then forced to change or move elsewhere.


The Settlers of N. Ireland who came from Scotland are not the true scots and are not celtic orgin. Some maybe but they are majorly, protestants rulers of mid Scotland who are English decent (non celtic)


The Basque is not celtic but, its still has a small percentage of Celtic people there, and Galica is the official area of Celtic heritage in Spain.

This report is misleading, because Spanish/Portuguese have been settling here for thousands of years right up till the 18th century. You will find that most "dark Irish" are on the west coast. This further proves the ethnic backgrounds of immigration from Ibearia to the Irish coast.

The other thing, I have read is. The Spanish and moors have also settled here many thousands of years ago, this is why we get very dark swallow skinned people in families every now and then. Its no secret at all.


What does interest me, is why Ireland though? Is there something we are not been told. The history states that Ireland was only settled about 6,000 years ago.

The fucking mainstream bullshit:rolleyes:
They did confirm a few megolithic sites that pushes the date officially a few hundred years. But even still I would burn the shit we read in school, if i HAD MY WAY.

[decim]

mind1universe have a read of this, you might find it sheds some light.

http://www.bobhay.net/_downloads/_genes/G18%20Mystery%20Men%20of%20Europe.pdf

[whizzer]

Roms I am almost certain came from Egypt despite all their blood samples bullsh*t. They brought with them ancient esoteric practices.

[charles d ward]

Good thread. It made me think of this song:

The wand of Abaris by Therion.

Walking through heat and desert sand
High priest of the egyptian land
On his way to the land of snow
From his wand all the magic flows
The wand is glowing in the dark
Abaris show the way to man
Sparks and arrows of the sun
Penetrates the human mind
Leave the groves of arcady
Take the wand across the sea
(the) rune of eiwar is guiding you
A delphian forecast of what to do
Enter sanctum of Upsala
Earthly foretaste of Valhalla
The wand is glowing in the dark
Abaris show the way to man
Sparks and arrows of the sun
Penetrates the human mind
Leave the groves of arcady
Take the wand across the sea
I see divine abaris in the labyrinth
I hold the bow and arrow made of hidden runes.

[lightgiver]

I feel this is relevant to the thread;)

The Fortingall Yew, which would have been some 3000 years old
when Pontious Pilate was born

Pontius Pilate lived from around 20BC until some time after AD36. He was the Prefect of the Roman province of Judaea from AD26 to AD36, and is best remembered as the judge at the trial of Jesus Christ in AD33, and the man who subsequently ordered his crucifixion. The wider picture in Scotland at the time is set out in our Historical Timeline.

So what is a page about Pontius Pilate doing in the Biography section of Undiscovered Scotland? There has long been a story that Pontius Pilate was actually born at Fortingall in Perthshire, also known as home to an ancient yew tree that could be as much as 5,000 years old (and, if so, is probably the oldest living thing on Earth). At first sight the story of Pilate's birth here looks unlikely. The Romans arrived in southern Britain in 55BC, but only briefly. They returned to invade what is now England in AD43, and only invaded Scotland for the first time in AD80, reaching the area including Perthshire in about AD83. Against this background, how could a Roman have been born here in, roughly, the decade either side of 20BC, which seems necessary to have allowed him to become Prefect of Judaea in AD26?

The story of Pilate's Scottish origins was set out most fully in an article published in the New York Times on 15 January 1899. It seems that between the Romans' first incursion into Britain and their later invasion, Ceasar Augustus dispatched envoys to establish diplomatic relations with some of the important British and Caledonian chieftains. These included a Caledonian chieftain called Metellanus, whose stronghold was at the head of Glen Lyon. A member of the Roman delegation to Metellanus's tribe fathered a child with a Caledonian woman, and this child subsequently returned to Rome with his father (and, possibly, his mother), and was brought up as Pontius Pilate.

As there appears to be no clear record of the circumstances of Pilate's parentage or birth, this story seems at least as likely as alternatives that would have him born in Tarragona in Spain or Forchheim in Germany. And if he was born in Fortingall, that would make him only the first of very many Scots who throughout history have travelled abroad to achieve high office serving in other people's empires.

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usbiography/pqr/pontiuspilate.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=980DE4D7163DE433A25756C1A9679C94 689ED7CF

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C04E5DE103EE033A25752C2A96E9C94 6697D6CF

[mind1universe]

I'm Irish, but I feel very conected with the Siran star system. I also feel connected with Egpyt and the Hebrews. So can someone tell me when exactly did the blood of the Celts mix with the Egyptians. I'm Irish born and bred. My blood is I have good genetics and my blood is failry mixed background and n ot predominantly Irish alone. I have french, reptilian, English, Norman, Viking now I feel somewhat Egyptian. In Ireland we have Moor looking skin people in families but are still Irish for many many generations. We seem to have not just Spanish blood but arguably alot of North African blood

Why Ireland it's so far away from Egypt

[lightgiver]

I'm Irish, but I feel very conected with the Siran star system. I also feel connected with Egpyt and the Hebrews. So can someone tell me when exactly did the blood of the Celts mix with the Egyptians. I'm Irish born and bred. My blood is I have good genetics and my blood is failry mixed background and n ot predominantly Irish alone. I have french, reptilian, English, Norman, Viking now I feel somewhat Egyptian. In Ireland we have Moor looking skin people in families but are still Irish for many many generations. We seem to have not just Spanish blood but arguably alot of North African blood

Why Ireland it's so far away from Egypt

http://www.ucadia.com/frank/frank_history_hyksos.htm

If you do the research,its all out there.;)

The settlers that arrived in Ireland and Orkney, around 7,600 bce, belonged to an ocean migration of people with Rh-negative blood types, genetically identical to the Berbers of North Africa and Basques of Europe (see Migrations). Today these dark featured people are referred to jokingly as the “Black Irish.” (See Cavalli-Sforza’s 1991, Scient. Amer. November). Edo Nyland’s theory is that this ocean migration is associated with the trade in Reindeer Hides, used for ship sails in the Mediterranean. The hides were obtained in Finnmark, Arctic Norway, salted and shipped to Southern Sweden and Connamara for Oak Tanning. This began during a time when the earth’s climate was relatively colder than afterward and the North Sea was still dry land. It was then possible to follow a western route (see Climate). The first settlers were likely support crews for the reindeer hide trade with the Mediterranean, such as ship repair, resting places, provision of food, etc., not the regular survival clans. Their ships may have been of the type currently being unearthed in North Africa (see Ships). In Norway some 100 camps of the hunters have been explored by archaeologist Anders Nummedal who noted that the petroglyphs left by these people had close affinity to those in the Basque country of France and Spain.

In Ireland a whole town of house foundations can be viewed on the south shore of Killary harbor, north of Galway. The oaks are still growing there. The name of the town is Foher, meaning “a good place to rest.” No archaeological work has been done there as of July 2004.

Up to the 21st Century the Rh-negative blood type frequency among these people is the highest in the world. Berbers and Basques average 32%, Irish and Scots 29% and the Norwegian islanders 17%. There were never any Celts among these people.

Later on Egypt could have had intense contact with North America. This is suspected by the discovery in 1950 of huge boats adjacent to Khufu’s great pyramid. They were buried between 2589 and 2566 bce.. One has been restored and it shows considerable wear as if it had undergone long journeys. Its length is 43.63 meters, width 5.66 meters (see Egyptian Boat). This ship was perfectly capable of crossing the Atlantic. The other boats were left intact waiting for additional funding to rebuild them as well. An excellent article about these boats may be found in the April/May 2004 issue of Ancient Egypt Magazine.

Some interesting events took place in the Mediterranean world at the onset of the twelfth century BC. These were turbulent times in the southern lands, where violent attacks by a mysterious group of raiders referred to as the Sea Peoples laid in ruins the Aegean civilization and even threatened the very survival of the Egyptian monarchy (Fell 1982, Odyssey). Egypt at this time was ruled by one of the most powerful of the Pharaohs, Ramesses III, who reigned from 1188 to 1165 BC. Edo Nyland has presented an updated view of these seafarers (see Sea People).

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/celts.htm

[jp13]

I don't like using the blanket term "Celts" as there was no such tribe, it is a generic term for all the people who were in individual 'tribes' around the same time, anyway apart from that I do feel that there is some connection between the natives of Britain and possibly Atlantis or Egypt.
The only actual evidence I have is formed from an intense 'trip' I had wherein I experienced travelling from my land in the East, like a warrior priest of Thebes, who has been requested to come to the British Isles, especially Scotland.
I remember being 'expected' by the locals who extended every hospitality to me while I was teaching them a new way that would ensure the survival of 'their' knowledge and also how to adapt to the new ways that were coming.
I obviously can't be absolutely sure if there is or was any real truth in this, apart from feeling that it was hardwired into my central nervous system, like a racial/tribal memory.
I have since read a few Novels that touch upon this subject and as is the case with such things often seem to be more true than any text books on the subject.
In particular I would recommend books by Peter Valentine Timlett especially his trilogy: 1.The Seedbearers 1974. 2. The Power of the Serpent 1976. 3.Twilight of the Serpent 1977 I haven't read them in some time (15 -20years) but I remember they were about survivors from Atlantis coming to Britain to work with the Druids.
I would also recomend books by Storm Constantine, especially The Grigori Trilogy:- 1. Stalking Tender Prey (1995)
2. Scenting Hallowed Blood (1996)
3. Stealing Sacred Fire (1997
She has a website: http://www.stormconstantine.com/
I would really like to know if any othes on this forum have read any of these books and what do they think of them.

[mind1universe]

The more research I do on my roots.


The more I realise who I am and my purpose. I just couldnt tell you who I incarnated as. Time will tell you soon!:)

Orion and Sirius, my palistine and Israel making peace on earth for all to change as the 7th day we rest on the 11th universe.

;)

[bendoon]

The Settlers of N. Ireland who came from Scotland are not the true scots and are not celtic orgin. Some maybe but they are majorly, protestants rulers of mid Scotland who are English decent (non celtic) .

The English are 75% Celtic which has been verified by recent DNA advances, wheres it was previously thought most were Anglo Saxon, as are most French and Spanish.

R1a Haplotype

People of Atlantic Europe (Basque 92%, Irish 90%, Welsh 86%, Northern Portuguese 81%, Spanish 78%, Scottish 77%, English 75%, Dutch 70%,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)

For those unfamiliar with haplotypes; if you are R1a, your father was R1a as will be every single male descendant and every single male ancestor. So you are a distant cousin to every R1a person in the world. So obviously if 90% of the Irish are Celts then 75% of the English are.

[mind1universe]

Can you give me sources?

Actually Irish people are more Scandinavian and Iberian rather than Celtic. Some people say that Celts didnt come here at all.

[bendoon]

Ever wondered about the similarities; Iberia, Hibernia, Hebrides ? they come from the word Hebrew (Eber). The "Egyptians" who settled in Spain, France and Britain were in fact Hebrews. Thats my opinion of course but shared with quite a lot of other people. Don't forget the Hebrews were in Egypt at the time when the Egyptians were supposed to have come to Ireland according to the legends.

[mind1universe]

Well I have found out that

I have alot of French, Norman, Spanish blood in me. I feel extremely hebrew. I don't look Irish at all. Infact most of my family tree and surnames are more English, French, old Irish, and Spanish. My Dad side has the "dark Irish" (he actually looks greek/Egpytian)and English and french. I haven't done the family tree on my Dads side yet but this is just this generation info.

Two names that come on my mums side were two ruling classes of my home county for at least 1000 years. These two names are both nee and marriage, so the blood doubles up and they have stayed in the same region too, and so have I :D And some people in my family are snakes /reptiles, but that's the irony of life. Good and bad makes balance. Anyway I'm rambling.


I'm also drawn to the egpytian look in people. Its a specific look and its always seeems to the egyptian eyes and mouth that strikes me in anyone I meet. Therefore the genetics proves to spark old memories of past lives.

[lightgiver]

The Irish Origins of Civilization, by Michael Tsarion...:

The Disciples of Horus

The land we now call Egypt was colonized...and was originally peopled by fair Celts from the shores of Britain. This was the Exodus of the Aryans, some of whom returned later to their primeval homes - Comyns Beaumont (Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain)

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/book1_chap10.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7895679846369098539

http://www.redicecreations.com http://www.michaeltsarion.com Join us for an excellent three part live program with Michael Tsarion, author of The Irish Origins of Civilization. We discuss the chronology of tyranny, timelines, the rise of empires around the world and we look back into history to discover the roots of tyranny and dictators. We begin the first segment to talk about the origins, the psychology of Akhenaton, the dragon court, Akhenaton as Moses, the origins of Monotheism, Freud, Solar Cultism, Amenism & Atenism, Egypt, the Bible, biblical characters as Pharaohs of Egypt, Sol Invictus, Zoroastrianism, Mithraism and much more. We begin the second segment to talk about the Exodus & the Hyksos. We then move on to discuss the Invasion of Atonism in Britain & Ireland. We talk about the Knights Templar and the Masons. We end the second segment to specifically look into the timelines, the dates of rise and fall of Empires, movements and invasions. In our final and third "bonus" segment we dive deeper into the Druidic and Irish symbolism that are prominent throughout the world today. We look at some of the symbols of Politics, Science, Christianity, Royalty, America, Nazi Germany, the UN and much more. Do not miss this program.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9024389645920813522&hl=en

[lightgiver]

The Story of Princess Scota

In 1955, archaeologist Dr. Sean O’Riordan of Trinity College, Dublin, made an interesting discovery during an excavation of the Mound of Hostages at Tara, site of ancient kingship of Ireland. Bronze Age skeletal remains were found of what has been argued to be a young prince, still wearing a rare necklace of faience beads, made from a paste of minerals and plant extracts that had been fired.

The skeleton was carbon dated to around 1350 BC. In 1956, J. F. Stone and L. C. Thomas reported that the faience beads were Egyptian: “In fact, when they were compared with Egyptian faience beads, they were found to be not only of identical manufacture but also of matching design.

The famous boy-king Tutankhamun was entombed around the same time as the Tara skeleton and the priceless golden collar around his mummy’s neck was inlayed with matching conical, blue-green faience beads”. An almost identical necklace was found in a Bronze Age burial mound at north Molton, Devon.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=854

[mind1universe]

so what is the connection with Egypt and Ireland then?

Why would they come to ireland, thre further est point from the contiinent.

[eternal_spirit]

so what is the connection with Egypt and Ireland then?

Why would they come to ireland, thre further est point from the contiinent.
Isn't there a theory that says )it was the other way around) Irish moved to Egypt? Blah nevermind LG posted it. Irish German Welsh English person here, not so sure about the other genes if there is any more.

[mind1universe]

Isn't there a theory that says )it was the other way around) Irish moved to Egypt?

Could be possible.

I'd say the connection comes from Atlantis.

[eternal_spirit]

Could be possible.

I'd say the connection comes from Atlantis.
Maybe they are both remains from Atlantis (Atlanteans being one species/race across the Planet long ago)

Someone check the Akashic records please? :D

[bendoon]

so what is the connection with Egypt and Ireland then?

Why would they come to ireland, thre further est point from the contiinent.

To keep the blood line safe, the Red thread signified by the Red Lion (Scots) and the Red hand on the Ulster flag. As opposed to the Golden Lion.

Some cryptic clues.

[lightgiver]

The worship of this God reposed upon the obedience of all the beings He created. His feasts were those of the Solstices. The doctrines of Buddha pervaded India, China, and Japan. The Priests of Brahma, professing a dark and bloody creed, brutalized by Superstition, united together against Buddhism, and with the aid of Despotism, exterminated its followers. But their blood fertilized the new doctrine, which produced a new Society under the name of Gymnosophists; and a large number, fleeing to Ireland, planted their doctrines there, and there erected the round towers, some of which still stand, solid and unshaken as at first, visible monuments of the remotest ages.

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/obscure2/gym.html

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/occult/apollonius-of-tyana.html

http://sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/ali/ali230.htm

[lightgiver]

From out of remote Glen Lyon, the longest glen in Scotland, has come an intriguing oral tradition that Pontius Pilate was born in the hamlet of Fortingall, which lies at the entrance to this dramatic and picturesque highland glen. This ancient tradition also claims that Pontius Pilate was related to the Scots King, Metallanus, whose royal seat was located on a hill fort called Dun Geal (the White Fort) at Fortingall.

http://www.sacredconnections.co.uk/holyland/pontiuspilate.htm

[lightgiver]

In general the modern Irish pride themselves of their Celtic descent, but who were the Celts and where did they come from?

As many theories about historical issues, and especially those covering matters which took place before people started to write, there are several ideas about the Celts. Some of these theories are overhauled by technological advances. A relatively new technique in archaeology is for example DNA comparison. Before the discovery of DNA scientists had to rely on the shape of pottery to establish relations between ancient cultures, while modern science is capable to establish family relations over several generations and therewith providing insight in the movements of the actual people instead of the diffusion of technologies.
Modern insights upended the commonly accepted idea of one huge Celtic invasion from Central Europe to Britain and eventually Ireland. Instead it seems more likely that the Celts arrived over a long period of time in a couple of smaller migration waves. Besides solving the mystery why it took so long before Ireland had fully entered the Iron Age, there are many similarities between this idea and the various tribes mentioned in the Lebor Gabal, or Book of Invasions.

http://www.triskelle.eu/history/celts.php?index=060.030

They were sophisticated until the Romans and the church of Rome came along.

Brehon Law

Unfortunately only a fraction of the ancient Celtic laws survived the Christian and British censorship, but from the remaining volumes of this Breitheamh, or Brehon Law, we can learn that the Celts were not the violent barbarians as described by the Romans and the British. In contrary, the Brehon Law draws a picture of a highly organised, humane and progressive community.

Celtic tribes throughout Europe

The Celtic Tribes were united by common speech, customs and practises each headed by a king and divided by class into priests, warrior nobles, and commoners. They regarded the Earth as the property of divine forces not of human kind, treating the land and all its creatures with respect and reverence - their shamanistic religion was known as Druidism. The Celts regarded their laws, genealogies and spiritual disciplines as sacred, and required them to be transmitted orally. Their priests spent years learning their lengthy sacred texts by heart to preserve and transmit knowledge.

http://www.thistleandbroom.com/scotland/celts.htm http://books.livingsocial.com/books/213329-tim-wallace-murphy-rosslyn-guardian-of-the-secrets-of-the-holy-grail

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8008/pancelticflag.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/pancelticflag.jpg/)

[lightgiver]

The Irish Were Egyptians Long Ago

I suggest that the theme for this Gaelic-Welsh-English to Greek-Jewish-Egyptian crosstime culture-clasp is expressed beautifully by lyricist Alfred Bryan and Chris Smith in their rollicking song "The Irish Were Egyptians Long Ago", recorded in 1920 and again in 1940 (choruses only) by the great comic singer Billy Murray:

I've studied things Egyptic,
Those writings weird and cryptic
Upon the tombs that dot Sahara's sands.
I've solved each strange inscription
Left by each wise Egyptian
And hold the mystic secret in my hands.
The Irish were Egyptians long ago.
Just read between the lines and you will know.

It must have been the Irish who built the pyramids
For no one else could carry up the bricks. ...

Cleopatra was a colleen who came from Connemara.
She lost her nationality while roaming in Sahara ...

http://www.troynovant.com/Franson/Owen/Famous-Druids.html

Ever heard the term Irish Navvy's,some of the hardest workers on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navvy

[bendoon]

You might find this interesting.

http://www.keithhunt.com/Paulin4.html

[lightgiver]

You might find this interesting.

http://www.keithhunt.com/Paulin4.html

I heard on the grapevine Paul was an agent of Rome and a herodite who attacked James the Just and it sparked the Jerusalem riots scattering what was left of the essenes,and then the Romans then hijacked the original Gnostic teachings for their own purposes and the result is now the Corrupt Vatican,In a nutshell.

Built by the Sinclair family in the 15th century, the mysterious Rosslyn Chapel is said to contain priceless treasure brought from France by the Knights Templar, hidden in its sealed vaults. The final destination of medieval pilgrimages to seven sacred sites throughout Europe, hundreds of ornate stone carvings detail Pagan, Christian, Masonic, Templar, and Islamic revelations.

Rosslyn, guardian of the secrets of the Holy Grail

Read this book http://books.google.fr/books?id=WdoBAAAACAAJ&dq=Rossyln+guardian+of+the+secrets+of+the+holy+gra il&hl=en

Its well worth the read.

and then the Roman Elites spread their poison throughout the British Isles destroying all the ancient knowledge ETC ETC,and have suppressed knowledge ever since and are still leading Christians up the garden path.

The Vatican is nothing more than a Pagan sun worshipping cult based on mithraism.

http://www.crystalinks.com/mithraism.html

What a sorry sad state it all is.

The Gnostics are the true teachings of Christ.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71225

[bendoon]

Read up on the Church of the Culdee.

[rydeon]

Could be possible.

I'd say the connection comes from Atlantis.

I've heard that, but it could also be a connection to the Central Asian lands. Tibet was mentioned as a potential starting place for the Caucasian race where it split from the Asian lands and traveled west and south west.

[waiting41]

I heard on the grapevine Paul was an agent of Rome and a herodite who attacked James the Just and it sparked the Jerusalem riots scattering what was left of the essenes,and then the Romans then hijacked the original Gnostic teachings for their own purposes and the result is now the Corrupt Vatican,In a nutshell.

Built by the Sinclair family in the 15th century, the mysterious Rosslyn Chapel is said to contain priceless treasure brought from France by the Knights Templar, hidden in its sealed vaults. The final destination of medieval pilgrimages to seven sacred sites throughout Europe, hundreds of ornate stone carvings detail Pagan, Christian, Masonic, Templar, and Islamic revelations.

Rosslyn, guardian of the secrets of the Holy Grail

Read this book http://books.google.fr/books?id=WdoBAAAACAAJ&dq=Rossyln+guardian+of+the+secrets+of+the+holy+gra il&hl=en

Its well worth the read.

and then the Roman Elites spread their poison throughout the British Isles destroying all the ancient knowledge ETC ETC,and have suppressed knowledge ever since and are still leading Christians up the garden path.

The Vatican is nothing more than a Pagan sun worshipping cult based on mithraism.

http://www.crystalinks.com/mithraism.html

What a sorry sad state it all is.

The Gnostics are the true teachings of Christ.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71225

Those are some of the conclusions that I have come to after long years of reading.

[lightgiver]

Those are some of the conclusions that I have come to after long years of reading.

;)

It appears the Vatican's evil tentacles spread far and wide.

They do not teach the True Teachings of the Christ,everyone is being led up the garden path,its only a matter of time before the World finds out.;)

And not all masons are bad either,that as been infiltrated by dark forces also,it will go back to Goodness in time.

[bendoon]

Everything you want to know about the Egyptian/Hebrew/Celtic connection.

http://www.kingarthurslegacy.com/

[lightgiver]

Everything you want to know about the Egyptian/Hebrew/Celtic connection.

http://www.kingarthurslegacy.com/

Cheers :)

[tenzingnorgay]

Great thread

[lightgiver]

Great thread

Hi tenzing:)

Feel free to add any info :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058477483#post1058477483

The Above thread may interest you.

[thefaan]

Thank you for such an informative discussion. The Irish claim that there is an Atlantis connection. And Ireland used to be called the Sacred Isle by the Phoenicians because of the presece of magi there. Magi can be good or bad; they can share their knowledge or use it for their own gain. The good ones are probably all gone now -killed, of course, along with all seers who knew the truth and would be able to help us in the very important next three years. It would be great if some of the bad ones changed sides. Those on our side who have bits and pieces of their knowledge are doing all we can to pool it, because these are crucial years coming up.

P.S. Yes, there were two migrations of Celts. And to mind1universe, anyone who denies their presence is...well, you know...because most Celts have fought empires, though recently I see many being used by them. Like the Jews, those true to their heritage are good.
P.P.S. To whizzer, the Rom are from India. Their ancestors arrived in eastern Europe as the army of an invading Raj, who left them there. It was not fun.

[darkman]

wow fasanating thread just read thru it all and futher digging for me brought up the story of princces scota
here a read from www.book-of-thoth.com/article1693.html

In 1955, archaeologist Dr. Sean O’Riordan of Trinity College, Dublin, made an interesting discovery during an excavation of the Mound of Hostages at Tara, site of ancient kingship of Ireland. Bronze Age skeletal remains were found of what has been argued to be a young prince, still wearing a rare necklace of faience beads, made from a paste of minerals and plant extracts that had been fired.

The skeleton was carbon dated to around 1350 BC. In 1956, J. F. Stone and L. C. Thomas reported that the faience beads were Egyptian: “In fact, when they were compared with Egyptian faience beads, they were found to be not only of identical manufacture but also of matching design.

The famous boy-king Tutankhamun was entombed around the same time as the Tara skeleton and the priceless golden collar around his mummy’s neck was inlayed with matching conical, blue-green faience beads”. An almost identical necklace was found in a Bronze Age burial mound at north Molton, Devon.

Lorraine Evans in her compelling book, Kingdom of the Ark, reveals archaeological connections between Egypt and Ireland. Evans argues that the connections between the two distant lands were plausible and there is archaeological evidence to support the theory. In 1937 in North Ferriby, Yorkshire, the remains of an ancient boat were discovered. While thought to be a Viking longship at first, continued excavation produced additional ships, wrecked in a storm. Further investigation showed that the boats were much older than Viking ships and were of a type found in the Mediterranean. It was concluded that these boats originated from 2000 years before the Viking age and were radiocarbon dated to around 1400 to 1350 BC. Evans then makes connections to argue that these boats could originate from Egypt, as the timeframe fits the dating of the faience beads. While investigating the origins of the people of Scotland in the Bower manuscript, the Scotichronicon, she discovers the story of Scota, the Egyptian princess and daughter of a pharaoh who fled from Egypt with her husband Gaythelos with a large following of people who arrive in a fleet of ships. They settled in Scotland for a while amongst the natives, until they were forced to leave and landed in Ireland, where they formed the Scotti, and their kings became the high kings of Ireland. In later centuries, they returned to Scotland, defeating the Picts, and giving Scotland its name.

[pri01]

I wonder who invented the Kilt? Was it the Celts or the Ancient Egyptian?

4869 4870

[lightgiver]

I wonder who invented the Kilt? Was it the Celts or the Ancient Egyptian?

4869 4870

Meow ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U0udLH974

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aYvM6cyhU

Egyptian Meow

http://www.arlecchino.org/pasquariello/egyptian_kilt.html

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/57/ramesses.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/ramesses.jpg/)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88470&page=28

[bendoon]

I wonder who invented the Kilt? Was it the Celts or the Ancient Egyptian?


The Egyptian thing is the Masonic apron not a kilt.

[lightgiver]

The Egyptian thing is the Masonic apron not a kilt.

Are you quite sure about that?:)

BTW cheers for the info peeps.


Sequenre tao
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5121/423pxsequenretao.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/423pxsequenretao.jpg/)

I do agree with the masonic link to Egypt.

The Hiram key

Encrypted in Masonic ritual up to this day is the story of the assassination of Pharaoh Seqenenre Tao of Thebes(above) by the then-ruling invader Apophis, in order to wrest the Egyptian secrets of kingly succession from him in the attempt to legitimize his claim as Pharaoh over Egypt. The Hyksos ('desert kings') ruled Egypt briefly, but they knew that the true power over people's hearts and minds would always remain in Thebes as long as they did not have access to the mysteries, i.e. the death/rebirth ritual which was simultaneously the funeral for the old Pharaoh, and the coronation of his successor.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57412

Apparently Pontius Pilate was Scottish.

[dunadan]

Meow ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U0udLH974

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aYvM6cyhU

Egyptian Meow

http://www.arlecchino.org/pasquariello/egyptian_kilt.html

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/57/ramesses.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/ramesses.jpg/)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88470&page=28

Really enjoying the Thread!

I have been keeping a 'weather eye' on such research - fascinating.

Just wanted to say too that those two cats made my day - it has been a very long and dutifully boring one - nice to have a smile at their chatter!:D

[2013]

I wonder who invented the Kilt? Was it the Celts or the Ancient Egyptian?

4869 4870

I posted ealrier on the possible link between josephs coat of many colour and tartan , this is the same type of cloth found on the redhaired white skinned mummies found in china . Also the bagpipes are not just a scottish instrument , perhaps theres a link there as well :D
http://library.thinkquest.org/C001468F/library/instruments/woodwinds/bagpipes.htm

[monay]

I think that the dyes for the various threads were secrets. It is yet the same for various tweeds. Who brought sheep herding to Ireland anyway?

[lightgiver]

I posted ealrier on the possible link between josephs coat of many colour and tartan , this is the same type of cloth found on the redhaired white skinned mummies found in china . Also the bagpipes are not just a scottish instrument , perhaps theres a link there as well :D
http://library.thinkquest.org/C001468F/library/instruments/woodwinds/bagpipes.htm

Scota, the daughter of Pharaoh Akhenaton, gave her name to the land of Scotland.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5338/benhur3jpg.png (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/benhur3jpg.png/)

The British Kymry - the Druidic Religion of Britain:

His robe was of white linen, with a broad purple border,

http://www.llangynfelyn.org/dogfennau/british_kymry_druids.html

Really enjoying the Thread!

I have been keeping a 'weather eye' on such research - fascinating.

Just wanted to say too that those two cats made my day - it has been a very long and dutifully boring one - nice to have a smile at their chatter!:D

Meow.:D

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8835/tuathadedanaan0405.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/tuathadedanaan0405.jpg/)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88470&page=28

The students at these colleges numbered at times 60,000 souls, amongst whom were included the young nobility of Britain and Gaul. The authority and privileges of the Druidic Order were very great. They sat as magistrates, deciding all questions of law and equity. They regulated and presided over the rites and ceremonies of religion. The power of excommunication, lodged in their hands, put the party against whom it was issued out of the pale of the law. They were exempt from military duties, taxes, and imposts. A tenth of the land was appropriated for their support. None but a Druid could offer sacrifice, nor was any candidate admissible to the order who could not prove his genealogy from free parents for nine generations back. The consent of the head of the clan, or of twelve fathers of families in the clan, was necessary to the public admission of a candidate into the order. The examinations preparatory to full initiation into the two higher grades of the Bard and the Druid, were of great severity. An Ovydd (or Vates) might claim his grade by proving himself, in public examination before the head of the clan and twelve Druids, master of the special art or science he professed to teach or exercise. None but the initiated were taught the Esoteric doctrines of the order—hence the profound reserve maintained on certain points of their teaching by Taliesin and other Christo-Druidic Bards.

[bendoon]

Are you quite sure about that?:)



http://www.anandgholap.net/Hidden_Life_In_Freemasonry-CWL.htm

In those days the aprons were made of leather, and were triangular. That of the First Degree was pure white, as it is now; but the M.M.’s apron was brilliantly coloured and heavily jewelled, with tassels of gold. (See Plate I.) Our t … f … i … g … was represented by a cubit of twenty-five inches. The Blazing Star in the centre of the Lodge existed, but it had eight points instead of six or five. It was called “The Star of Dawn” or “The Morning Star,” and represented Horus of the Re­surrection, who is pictured as bearing it upon his head and as having given it to his followers.

The religion of Ancient Egypt was carried by the Israelites via Israel and Babylon to Europe and is now continued by Freemasonry. This was in parrallel with and in direct opposition to the true religion of the Israelites and then (true) Christianity. So today we still have the same conflict between true Christians and the NWO/Freemasons.

[lightgiver]

http://www.anandgholap.net/Hidden_Life_In_Freemasonry-CWL.htm



The religion of Ancient Egypt was carried by the Israelites via Israel and Babylon to Europe and is now continued by Freemasonry. This was in parrallel with and in direct opposition to the true religion of the Israelites and then (true) Christianity. So today we still have the same conflict between true Christians and the NWO/Freemasons.

The masons obviously have connections to Egypt,it looks like to me they are all interconnected.

The Kilt is debatable also,

The Ancient Egyptian Kilt:

From Women in Egypt: Menkaure and his Queen 2.

Description

"Besides the headdress, the only other article of clothing he wears is a shendjyt kilt which is folded across the front, with one end falling down beneath, and held in place with a belt round his waist."

From Tuthmosis III

"The statue represents Tuthmosis III kneeling on a base, wearing a shendjyt kilt ..."

From Women in Egypt: Menkaure and his Queen 2. Description

"Besides the headdress, the only other article of clothing he wears is a shendjyt kilt which is folded across the front, with one end falling down beneath, and held in place with a belt round his waist."

http://www.arlecchino.org/pasquariello/egyptian_kilt.html

[dunadan]

The idea that the Egyptians and Celts were connected in antiquity and that they spread around the world is not a new idea; it has been noticed by many scholars over the years.

Due to the declassification of ground penetrating radar, data has come forth to show us that huge underground tunnel systems and complexed underground cities existed thousands of years ago right under our feet. Places such as Guatemala in South Americas, tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal, which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This tunnel system now sheds light on how half a million Mayan Indians escaped the decimation of their culture.

SIRA radar was used in 1978 to map a subterranean compex beneath the Egyptian Pyramids as early as 1978. . At a recent meeting in Australia, one of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtak, showed film footage of work in progress called, CHAMBERS OF THE DEEP, due to be released at the end of the century. As of yet, this footage has never come to light.

The film reveals the discovery of a vast megalithic metropolis, 15,000 years old, reaching several levels below the Giza plateau. While the rest of the Nu-Age speculates about a hidden chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx, the legendary "City Of The Gods", lays sprawled beneath. Complete with hydraulic underground waterways, the film shows massive chambers, the proportions of our largest cathedrals, with enormous statues, the size of the Valley of the Nile, carved in-situ. Researchers, risking their lives with lights and cameras, carefully negotiated rubber dinghies across subterranean rivers and kilometer-wide lakes, to penetrate sealed chambers beyond. Already, remarkable caches of records and artifacts have been found.

From these records, as well as the Sumerian, we know there was an era the Egyptians called Zep Tepi, "The First Times". During this time a mysterious group of 'gods' appeared , bringing with them their sciences, traditions and laws. We can find evidence of this time and these gods throughout the world...From Thoth and Osiris in Egypt to Quetzacoatl and Virococha in the Americas.

Evidence now show us that prior to the deluges great and high tech civilizations existed. One of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtakthe,said this was a culture who cracked the genetic code and possessed the keys of the physical spectrum, the "Higher Light Physics" of the ancients... After the departure of the Anunnaki, much of the information was lost. What wasn't has been secretly and selfishly guarded by the 'keepers of knowledge' which is of course the shepherd kings of the Anunnaki.

The knowledge that has been preserved has been used by the 'elite' to create illusions, fulfill prophesy and manipulate the masses. In essence the 'elite bloodlines of today' are the self proclaimed 'gods' of the ancient times. The basic rule of thumb...knowledge is power..and the 'elite bloodlines' have this knowlege thus the power.. They will not share it with us because by doing so it will take away their 'god-like' status . After all what would the world come to if we all were given the knowledge and power of a god. Well..what has the world come to allowing the 'elite' ie as the Bush's and other members of One World Government to have and use all this power? Our moral structure, our social structure and our , economic structure is all based on a house of cards, a foundation built on lies to the public.


As was promised, all things shall be revealed in the end days. Many discoveries today are now coming to light. What we have found out is that the discoveries in Egypt and other parts of the world not only evidence an advance technology, but an evolutionary path beyond our present state. Careful scientific examination of the world's key pyramid sites, reveal them to be sophisticated harmonic structures, not only mirroring positions of the planets and stellar systems but, designed to mimic the chakras and harmonic cavities of the human body. Even each stone within the Great Pyramid is harmonically tuned to a specific frequency or musical tone. The sarcophagus in the centre of the Great Pyramid is tuned to the frequency of the human heart beat.

Astonishing experiments, conducted by Dr. Hurtak and colleagues at the Great Pyramid and other sites in the South Americas, demonstrate the pyramids to be voice-activated "geophysical computers." Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures.

The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light". Known to the ancients as HIBURU. It is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle. Modern research confirms, the most ancient form Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system.

Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The "keys" Enoch speaks of, turn out to be sound keys, keys to be vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World". The Enochian knowledge describes sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affect the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states.

As the ancient texts declare, "If you would speak with the gods you must first learn the language of the gods." DNA, the ancient cabalistic "Tree Of Life" portrayed in the Biblical Torah, is now coming to be viewed as a live vibrating structure, rather than a fixed tape recording. Many modern scientists, regard DNA as a shimmering, waveform configuration, able to be modified by light, radiation, magnetic fields or sonic pulses. The legacy of Thoth/Enoch suggests this "language of Light", the harmonic science of the ancients, could actually affect DNA.

The knowledge of Thoth/Enoch implies humans are meant to evolve beyond our present terrestrial form, as the Bible tells us, "we may become greater than angels". The Egyptians record stories of the "Star Walkers", occasional individuals who, like Enoch, travelled "beyond the Great Eye of Orion" and returned, to walk like gods amongst men. Despite the bleaching of semi-divine beings from modern consciousness, could it be possible, as the ancient texts insist, we are destined to "become as gods"? are the Mayan "Lords of Light" and the Egyptian/Tibetan "Shining Ones" really a higher form of human or a hybrid (alien god/man) ?

According to many earth legends, such beings ,sometimes called Avatars, are supposed to return regularly, at the beginning and end of each time cycle, the 13,000 year half-point of our solar system's 26,000 year zodiacal orbit around galaxy centre. Because of conditions on our galactic orbit, these 13,000 year intervals or "worlds", seem to be separated by cataclysmic upheaval.

According to the "calendar in stone" of the Great Pyramid, which describes the so-called "Phoenix Cycle" of our galactic orbit, the present time period ends (converted to our present calendar) in the year 2012 AD. The Greek word PHOENIX, derived from the Egyptian word, PA-HANOK, actually means, "The House of Enoch". This does NOT mean the world will end...but the Age . We should then be entering the Age of Aquarius...an Age which promises to be filled with Hope and Love. We have now entered this Age.

The Enochian knowledge suggests, these regular cataclysmic changes act as an evolutionary agent provocateur, to quicken the resident life forms to the next evolutionary phase, prior to exodus from the womb planet. The evidence now appearing, records civilisations before us, who mastered the physical continuum and progressed beyond this world.

The discoveries emerging from Egypt, describe the existence of a world wide pyramid temple system in prehistory, mounted like antennae on the key energy meridians, which were employed by ancient priest-scientists as a musical system to stabilize the tectonic plates of the planet... cataclysmic geology at it's finest. From the mother tongue word JEDAIAH, meaning "the way of the Word" or "the power of the Word", the ancient JEDAI priests used the language of Light to tune the planet like a giant harmonic bell.

Reference: Ground Penetrating Radar Showing Ancient Civilizations, Paul White

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dann.html
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm


GROUND PENETRATING RADAR FINDS THE ATLANTEAN TUNNELS.

Satellites, planes and the space shuttle can do remote sensing using radar imaging, radio waves, infrared and thermal infrared to see underground. It is believed HAARP does this too. Multispectral scanners are also used and even ice is penetrated. A tethered blimp attached to a jeep will also allow underground viewing. One can probably guess that this is a reason, the insects, frogs and birds are becoming extinct as X Rays do cause cancer. It has been used in Antarctica, Greenland, Mt. Ararat, Eastern Sahara, Egypt, Guatamala tunnels and for Mayan causeways. Microwave radar has been used to penetrate Saharan sand. It can use 500 MHz. NASA (started by Nazi scientists) uses this radar. Paul White wrote the declassification of ground penetrating radar has revealed a complex and labyrinthine underground system in various parts of the world. Dr. James Hurtak was involved in using this to find a 15,000 year old subterranean complex under the pyramid at Giza, a legacy of Atlantis. It's rumored he encountered 'Thoth" down there. There were massive chambers the size of our largest cathedrals. Paul White writes that hi-tech Flood survivors of the previous civilization arose "after the dust settled" to become the gods of ancient Sumer, Egypt and India. Tunnels under the Mayan pyramids extend 800 km across the country.
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/pinegap13.html

There are tombs in Ireland - and I believe Scotland - that react to certain sounds/frequencies, and even to/with certain light conditions, wherebye even the dust particles -in the light - dance in the light to the sounds.

Also the Aborigines' Didgeridos, at one time, resonated with the original vibration(s) or the Earth - according to some experts that vibrational frequency has now changed!

[dunadan]

Am I correct in thinking that the British 'Celts' (Britons) would not have recognised this as their name - and that this word/phrase was only applied to these peoples in C17th or C18th? Doesnt this word come from the word(s) 'Keltoi' or 'Celtae' - which were Greco-Roman words, which loosly translated meant 'strangers' or 'The Strangers'?

The peoples which we know as the Celts, in Britain, those with red hair and blue, green or pale eyes, those which were from the Egyptian stock, were they not of Scythian stock also? Whilst the blonde haired blue eyed peoples were from Nordic stock et al.

What I would like to know is how the Picts fit in all of this?

[lightgiver]

There are tombs in Ireland - and I believe Scotland - that react to certian sounds/frequencies, and even to/with certain light conditions, wherebye even the dust particles -in the light - dance in the light to the sounds.

Also the Aborigines' Didgeridos, at one time, resonated with the original vibration(s) or the Earth - according to some experts that vibrational frequency has now changed!

Good post here,;)

lol

There's a 7th century BC Egyptian mummy in Belfast Museum thought you might like to see... and check out the girls hair :)

http://www.culture24.org.uk/asset_arena/9/91/77/177199/v0_master.jpg

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history+%2526+heritage/archaeology/art69940


Notice the beads again... I seen you post this before.

In 1955, archaeologist Dr. Sean O’Riordan of Trinity College, Dublin, made an interesting discovery during an excavation of the Mound of Hostages at Tara, site of ancient kingship of Ireland. Bronze Age skeletal remains were found of what has been argued to be a young prince, still wearing a rare necklace of faience beads, made from a paste of minerals and plant extracts that had been fired.

The skeleton was carbon dated to around 1350 BC. In 1956, J. F. Stone and L. C. Thomas reported that the faience beads were Egyptian: “In fact, when they were compared with Egyptian faience beads, they were found to be not only of identical manufacture but also of matching design.

The famous boy-king Tutankhamun was entombed around the same time as the Tara skeleton and the priceless golden collar around his mummy’s neck was inlayed with matching conical, blue-green faience beads”. An almost identical necklace was found in a Bronze Age burial mound at north Molton, Devon.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=854

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88470&page=11

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7633/dublintemple.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/dublintemple.jpg/)

[bendoon]

What I would like to know is how the Picts fit in all of this?

I don't know about the Picts specifically, but the indigenous Europeans or natives if you like were of hg I halpogroups (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml) The colonists after around 1500 BC were of hg R1b, (Phoenicians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Israelites IMHO), concentrated more towards the West today namely Britain, Ireland, Northern Spain, Western France, Holland, Belgium. With the advent of Y-DNA testing a lot of previously held opinions about historical migrations are being completely overturned although the scientific community as usual is very reluctant to change its previously held views.

And apparently there are lots of measurements incorporated into Stonehenge from the Giza pyramid.

[dunadan]

I don't know about the Picts specifically, but the indigenous Europeans or natives if you like were of hg I halpogroups (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml) The colonists after around 1500 BC were of hg R1b, (Phoenicians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Israelites IMHO), concentrated more towards the West today namely Britain, Ireland, Northern Spain, Western France, Holland, Belgium. With the advent of Y-DNA testing a lot of previously held opinions about historical migrations are being completely overturned although the scientific community as usual is very reluctant to change its previously held views.

And apparently there are lots of measurements incorporated into Stonehenge from the Giza pyramid.

Thanks for that!

[whaaat]

I don't know about the Picts specifically, but the indigenous Europeans or natives if you like were of hg I halpogroups (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml) The colonists after around 1500 BC were of hg R1b, (Phoenicians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Israelites IMHO), concentrated more towards the West today namely Britain, Ireland, Northern Spain, Western France, Holland, Belgium.

there are both aurignacian and gravettian sites in the uk so saying that haplogroup I was alone there is very optimistic.

j2 would be the traditional phoenician et al haplo. i hadn't read that had changed. the oldest j2a currently resides in greece. j2a are the first farmers, bearers of the mother goddess, seafaring and metalworking.

the proof of a celt egyptian relationship would be in their idols and pottery... thank goodness about a thousand new museums in eastern euope opened up to western scientists recently.

for over 800 pictures of female idols...
http://picasaweb.google.com/byThemis/Idolies
personally i like the gumelnita/cucuteni and naqada/nubian units for comparison

[lightgiver]

The land we now call Egypt was colonized...and was originally peopled by fair Celts from the shores of Britain. This was the Exodus of the Aryans, some of whom returned later to their primeval homes - Comyns Beaumont (Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain)

The Irish symbol, the harp, came from North Africa and so did the name of that other classic symbol of Ireland, the shamrock. Any three leaf plant is known in Egypt as a shamrukh. The rosary beads, the symbol of devout Roman Catholics, come from the Middle East and are still used by the Egyptians. The word ‘nun’ is Egyptian and their garments are from the Middle East. According to Arbois de Juvainville, the author of a work called Cours De Literature Celtigue, the Irish were known as ‘Egyptians’ in the Middle Ages. There are obvious connections between Irish books and those of the Egyptians. They employ the same styles of illustration and the colours used in the Irish Book of Kells and Book of Durrow are of Mediterranean origin.

[bendoon]

The land we now call Egypt was colonized...and was originally peopled by fair Celts from the shores of Britain.

Its the other way round lightgiver, look at all the ancient civilisations in the ME.

The bronze age started in the ME 500 years before Europe, you need tin to make Bronze, one of the oldest tin mines in the world is in Wales, they came for tin and settled over time.

All this about it happening the other way round comes from Tsarion, there's no evidence for it.

[dunadan]

Its the other way round lightgiver, look at all the ancient civilisations in the ME.

The bronze age started in the ME 500 years before Europe, you need tin to make Bronze, one of the oldest tin mines in the world is in Wales, they came for tin and settled over time.

All this about it happening the other way round comes from Tsarion, there's no evidence for it.

Wasnt it the Scythians that were good at working such metals - didnt they come from the Russian Steppe lands?

Are not the Scythians - through inter-marriage with the Egyptian royalty - the forerunners of the Irish, Scots an Welsh?

[dunadan]

The land we now call Egypt was colonized...and was originally peopled by fair Celts from the shores of Britain. This was the Exodus of the Aryans, some of whom returned later to their primeval homes - Comyns Beaumont (Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain)

The Irish symbol, the harp, came from North Africa and so did the name of that other classic symbol of Ireland, the shamrock. Any three leaf plant is known in Egypt as a shamrukh. The rosary beads, the symbol of devout Roman Catholics, come from the Middle East and are still used by the Egyptians. The word ‘nun’ is Egyptian and their garments are from the Middle East. According to Arbois de Juvainville, the author of a work called Cours De Literature Celtigue, the Irish were known as ‘Egyptians’ in the Middle Ages. There are obvious connections between Irish books and those of the Egyptians. They employ the same styles of illustration and the colours used in the Irish Book of Kells and Book of Durrow are of Mediterranean origin.

Are there any other sources to back these claims up - besides Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain?

Your second paragraph seems inverse to the first:confused:

I know that most modern people seem to believe that our ancestors never travelled far etc. yet this claim does seem quite incredible.:)

Also when 'Aryans' are mentioned are they the peoples from what is now the Iraq/Iran region? Or the Christian sect? I realise that the spelling is different.

Thanks in anticipation!

[lightgiver]

Its the other way round lightgiver, look at all the ancient civilisations in the ME.

The bronze age started in the ME 500 years before Europe, you need tin to make Bronze, one of the oldest tin mines in the world is in Wales, they came for tin and settled over time.

All this about it happening the other way round comes from Tsarion, there's no evidence for it.

IMHO civilisations have come and gone over millions of years.

we are just skimming the surface here.:)

All over the planet are fantastic structures built thousands of years ago which could only have been created with technology as good as, often even better than, we have today. At Baalbek, north east of Beirut in the Lebanon, three massive chunks of stone, each weighing 800 tons, were moved at least a third of a mile and positioned high up in a wall. This was done thousands of years BC! Another block nearby weighs 1,000 tons - the weight of three jumbo jets. How was this possible? Official history does not wish to address such questions because of where it might lead. Can you imagine ringing a builder today and asking him to do that? “You want me to do WHAT?” he would say, “You’re crazy.”

EXAMPLE HERE, http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105173

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret01.htm

Are there any other sources to back these claims up - besides Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain?

Your second paragraph seems inverse to the first:confused:

I know that most modern people seem to believe that our ancestors never travelled far etc. yet this claim does seem quite incredible.:)

Also when 'Aryans' are mentioned are they the peoples from what is now the Iraq/Iran region? Or the Christian sect? I realise that the spelling is different.

Thanks in anticipation!

You had better take it up with D ICKE then it was quoted from his book.:)

2 informative links here,

Akhenaten [Amonhotep IV]

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=132503

Absolute Egyptology - Egypt before the Pharaohs:

http://www.nemo.nu/ibisportal/0egyptintro/2aegypt/index.htm

[lightgiver]

After a close study of Egyptian relics and paintings in museums and private collections, and after a perusal of the works of leading Egyptologists and excavators, researcher Mary Sutherland, who was unable to account for what she discovered, managed to catalog a few key examples concerning the anomaly of the Western European presence in the land of the Nile:

Only the mummies of a very few pharaohs have survived to the 20th century, but a large proportion of these are blond

Grafton Smith mentions the distinct red hair of the 18th dynasty mummy Henutmehet

The Egyptians have left us many paintings and statues of blonds and redheads. Amenhotep III's tomb painting shows him as having light red hair. Also, his features are quite Caucasian

A farm scene from around 2000 B.C., in the tomb of the nobleman Meketre shows a redhead

The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at Western Thebes shows blond girls

The god Horus is usually depicted as white. He is very white in the Book of the Dead, of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo

The eye of Horus, the so-called "Wedjat Eye," is always blue

The Greek author Plutarch, in the 22nd chapter of his De Iside et Osiride, states that the Egyptians thought Horus to be fair-skinned, and the god Seth to be of a ruddy complexion

The mummies of Rameses II and Prince Yuaa have fine silky yellow hair. The mummy of another pharaoh, Thothmes II, has light chestnut-colored hair. Microscopic examinations showed that the hair roots contained natural red pigments and that during his younger days, Rameses II had been a redhead

A very striking painting of a yellow-haired man hunting from a chariot can be found in the tomb of Userhet, Royal Scribe of Amenophis II. The yellow-haired man is Userhet. The same tomb has paintings of blond soldiers

The tomb of Menna also has a wall painting showing a blond man supervising two dark-haired workers scooping grain.

Time-Life books put out a volume called Rameses II, the Great. It has a good picture of the blond mummy of Rameses II. Another picture can be found in the book X-Raying the Pharaohs...the picture on the jacket cover...shows his yellow hair

The funerary stele (inscribed stone slab) of priest Remi clearly shows him as having red hair

A painting of the mother of Pharaoh Amenhotep IV (18th Dynasty), reveals that she had blond hair, blue eyes, and a rosy complexion

Princess Ranofri, a daughter of Pharaoh Tuthmosis III (18th dynasty), is depicted as a blond in a wall painting that was recorded in the 19th century, by the Italian Egyptologist Ippolito Rosellini

In 1929 archaeologists discovered the mummy of fifty year-old Queen Meryet-Amun (another daughter of Tuthmosis III); the mummy has wavy, light-brown hair

Paintings of blonds and redheads have been found among the tombs at Thebes

Amenhotep III looks northern European in his statue

A blond woman was painted at the tomb of Djeser-ka-ra-seneb in Thebes

A model of a ship from about 2500 B.C. is manned by five blond sailors

The god Nuit was painted as white and blond

Two statues from about 2570 B.C., found in the tombs at Medum, show Prince Rahotep and his wife Nofret. He has light green stones for eyes. She has violet-blue stones

A painting from Iteti's tomb at Saqqara shows a very Nordic-looking man with blond hair

A painting at the tomb of Meresankh III at Giza, from about 2485 B.C., shows white skin and red hair

Paintings of people with red hair and blue eyes were found at the tomb of Bagt in Beni Hassan. Many other tombs at Beni Hassan have paintings of individuals with blond and red hair as well as blue eyes

An article in a leading British anthropological journal states that many mummies have dark reddish-brown hair. Professor Vacher De Lapouge described a blond mummy found at Al Amrah, which he says has the face and skull measurements of a typical Gaul or Saxon

The book History of Egyptian Mummies mentions a mummy with reddish-brown hair

A blond mummy was found at Kawamil along with many chestnut-colored ones

The very first pharaoh, Narmer (also known as Menes), appears to be very Caucasian

[dunadan]

After a close study of Egyptian relics and paintings in museums and private collections, and after a perusal of the works of leading Egyptologists and excavators, researcher Mary Sutherland, who was unable to account for what she discovered, managed to catalog a few key examples concerning the anomaly of the Western European presence in the land of the Nile:

Only the mummies of a very few pharaohs have survived to the 20th century, but a large proportion of these are blond

Grafton Smith mentions the distinct red hair of the 18th dynasty mummy Henutmehet

The Egyptians have left us many paintings and statues of blonds and redheads. Amenhotep III's tomb painting shows him as having light red hair. Also, his features are quite Caucasian

A farm scene from around 2000 B.C., in the tomb of the nobleman Meketre shows a redhead

The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at Western Thebes shows blond girls

The god Horus is usually depicted as white. He is very white in the Book of the Dead, of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo

The eye of Horus, the so-called "Wedjat Eye," is always blue

The Greek author Plutarch, in the 22nd chapter of his De Iside et Osiride, states that the Egyptians thought Horus to be fair-skinned, and the god Seth to be of a ruddy complexion

The mummies of Rameses II and Prince Yuaa have fine silky yellow hair. The mummy of another pharaoh, Thothmes II, has light chestnut-colored hair. Microscopic examinations showed that the hair roots contained natural red pigments and that during his younger days, Rameses II had been a redhead

A very striking painting of a yellow-haired man hunting from a chariot can be found in the tomb of Userhet, Royal Scribe of Amenophis II. The yellow-haired man is Userhet. The same tomb has paintings of blond soldiers

The tomb of Menna also has a wall painting showing a blond man supervising two dark-haired workers scooping grain.

Time-Life books put out a volume called Rameses II, the Great. It has a good picture of the blond mummy of Rameses II. Another picture can be found in the book X-Raying the Pharaohs...the picture on the jacket cover...shows his yellow hair

The funerary stele (inscribed stone slab) of priest Remi clearly shows him as having red hair

A painting of the mother of Pharaoh Amenhotep IV (18th Dynasty), reveals that she had blond hair, blue eyes, and a rosy complexion

Princess Ranofri, a daughter of Pharaoh Tuthmosis III (18th dynasty), is depicted as a blond in a wall painting that was recorded in the 19th century, by the Italian Egyptologist Ippolito Rosellini

In 1929 archaeologists discovered the mummy of fifty year-old Queen Meryet-Amun (another daughter of Tuthmosis III); the mummy has wavy, light-brown hair

Paintings of blonds and redheads have been found among the tombs at Thebes

Amenhotep III looks northern European in his statue

A blond woman was painted at the tomb of Djeser-ka-ra-seneb in Thebes

A model of a ship from about 2500 B.C. is manned by five blond sailors

The god Nuit was painted as white and blond

Two statues from about 2570 B.C., found in the tombs at Medum, show Prince Rahotep and his wife Nofret. He has light green stones for eyes. She has violet-blue stones

A painting from Iteti's tomb at Saqqara shows a very Nordic-looking man with blond hair

A painting at the tomb of Meresankh III at Giza, from about 2485 B.C., shows white skin and red hair

Paintings of people with red hair and blue eyes were found at the tomb of Bagt in Beni Hassan. Many other tombs at Beni Hassan have paintings of individuals with blond and red hair as well as blue eyes

An article in a leading British anthropological journal states that many mummies have dark reddish-brown hair. Professor Vacher De Lapouge described a blond mummy found at Al Amrah, which he says has the face and skull measurements of a typical Gaul or Saxon

The book History of Egyptian Mummies mentions a mummy with reddish-brown hair

A blond mummy was found at Kawamil along with many chestnut-colored ones

The very first pharaoh, Narmer (also known as Menes), appears to be very Caucasian

Nefertiti is also portrayed as having a lighter skin tone. Then there is the issue of kilts, so called 'Celts' and Egyptians etc.

Some of the 'gentleman painters' have also portrayed Egyptian royalty as white. In more recent times this has been put down to the matter of colonialism and racist views etc. etc. Yet their depictions of Egyptian royalty in such a vein may well have been for a different matter altogether - they had 'inside knowledge' etc.

[lightgiver]

Apparently Blackpool gots its name from

Blackpool is believed to get its name from a historic drainage channel (possibly Spen Dyke) that ran over a peat bog, discharging discoloured water into the Irish Sea, which formed a black pool (on the other side of the sea, "Dublin" (Dubh Linn) is derived from the Irish for "black pool"). Another explanation is that the local dialect for stream was "pul" or "poole", hence "Black poole".

I disagree and will explain later once I have heard other peoples ideas of it.

View of Blackpool, 1784.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Blackpool.1784.jpg/800px-Blackpool.1784.jpg

A 12,000-year-old animal skeleton (the Carleton Elk) found with barbed arrowheads near Blackpool Sixth Form College in 1970 provided the first evidence of humans living on the Fylde as far back as the Palaeolithic era.[4] The Fylde was also home to a British tribe, the Setantii (the "dwellers in the water") a sub-tribe of the Brigantes, who from about AD80 were controlled by Romans from their fort at Dowbridge, Kirkham. During the Roman occupation the area was covered by oak forests and bog land.
Some of the earliest villages on the Fylde, which were later to become part of Blackpool town, were named in the Domesday Book in 1086. Many of them were Anglo-Saxon settlements. Some though were 9th and 10th century Viking place names. The Vikings and Anglo Saxons seem to have co-existed peacefully with some Anglo Saxon and Viking place names later being joined together – such as Layton-with-Warbreck and Bispham-with-Norbreck. Layton was controlled by the Butlers, Barons of Warrington from the 12th century.
In medieval times Black Poole emerged as a few farmsteads on the coast within Layton-with-Warbreck. The name coming from "le pull" which was a stream that drained Marton Mere and Marton Moss into the sea close to what is now Manchester Square. The stream ran through peat lands which discoloured the water, and so the name for the area became Black Poole. In the 15th century the area was just called Pul. And a 1532 map calls the area "the pole howsys alias the north howsys”.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1719/4182233308c5e79066abo.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/4182233308c5e79066abo.jpg/)

In 1602, entries in Bispham Parish Church baptismal register include both Poole and for the first time blackpoole. The first house of any substance, Foxhall, was built toward the end of the 17th century by Edward Tyldesley, the Squire of Myerscough, and son of the Royalist, Sir Thomas Tyldesley. An Act of Parliament in 1767 enclosed a common, mostly sand hills on the coast, that stretched from Spen Dyke southwards. Plots of the land were allocated to landowners in Bispham, Layton, Great Marton and Little Marton. The same act also provided for the layout of a number of long straight roads that would be built such as Lytham Road, St.Annes Road and Highfield Road.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8541/place100.gif (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/place100.gif/)

[lightgiver]

The symbol of Wales is a dragon which along with the lion, griffon, serpent, and eagle could be considered a symbol of Dan.

The symbol of the Hyksos was a griffin which had the body of a lion and head of an eagle.

In Irish accounts the Tribe of Dana came from Greece and had fought there against the Philistines.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/14/article-1311690-0B2C1977000005DC-751_308x259_popup.jpg http://museumpublicity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Crosby-Garrett-Helmet.jpg

Nothing in this book was written with the "mysterious" Hyksos peoples in mind, and yet I am finding that they and the Danaans were one. This chapter explains.

It must have been quite "coincidental" that less than a week after realizing the mount-Hermon roots of Herminone Germanics (who worshiped Tiwaz/Zio), I up and decided to see what Barbara Aho had been writing lately (her topics are similar to mine here), as I hadn't checked in a year or two, and behold I found that she was out spreading a message that certain modern Israelites are at this time prepared to spend eight million dollars on a Temple building in a theme/amusement park at mount Hermon. I learned her opinion that mount Sion (i.e. Hermon, not Jerusalem) was the sacred ground of Templars who formed the Priory of Sion...something that was beginning to cross my mind.

She claimed that mount Hermon was longitude 33 degrees when Paris was zero degree, wherefore she asserts that 33 has become sacred to Illuminatists because it was the longitude of Sion. She distinguishes between Sion and Zion of Jerusalem, implying that the Priory of Sion was not Jerusalem based. She believes as I do that Hermon was named after Hermes, evidenced by the fact that Panias is a city at the foot of Hermon and known to be named after Pan, the Greek god.


Banias spring with Pan's cave on background left with temenos and niches center
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Banias_Spring_Cliff_Pan%27s_Cave.JPG/800px-Banias_Spring_Cliff_Pan%27s_Cave.JPG

"On the monuments the Egyptians call the Hyksos "Asiatics" and "Barbarians." Manetho calls them "Arabians" and "Phoenicians...Sir Charles Marston in 'The Bible Comes Alive' argues that the Hyksos were a Hebrew people, though not Israelites..."


Historical records show that the Semitic hyksos kings ruled Egypt for over a hundred years. The Egyptian people rebelled against these Semitic kings and pushed them into
northern Egypt. By 1500 BC a peace agreement was reached between the Egyptians and the Semitic hyksos, which allowed the hyksos people to leave Egypt peaceably
and move to Palestine and Jerusalem in the Egyptian controlled land of Canaan. Their migration closely matches the bible story of the Semitic Hebrew exudes from Egypt
into Canaan in 1447 BC.

The dynasty came to an end when Amenemhat IV and was succeeded by his sister/wife Nefrusobek. Queen Nefrusobek ( Queen Sobekneferu) was the last ruler of 11th
Dynasty and daughter of Amenemhat III. Sobekneferu apparently ruled for only some four years, but is known from a number of monuments and artifacts, including five
statues, fragments relating to the mortuary temple of Amenemhat III at Hawara, scarabs, seals and beads, as well as from a Nile inundation record. This latter document from
the Nubian fortress of Kumma relates a poor flood of some 1.83 meters, and dates to Sobekneferu's last year.

The name 'Sobekneferu' means, "The beauties of Sobek", the crocodile god. The rulers of the 12th Dynasty also established a religious and economic center in the Fayoum
where the crocodiles were nurtured and worshipped.She built monuments throughout Egypt and her rule was recognized as far south as Lower Nubia. She also seems to
have carried on as queen or co-regent in the 12 Dynasty and is possibly the mother or adoptive mother of Moses and /or wife of Moses who became the first king or
pharaoh of the 12th Dynasty.


Historically a series of powerful invaders the philistines, the Babylonians and Persians conquered the land of Canaan which the Hebrew people called Israel, the Hebrew
tribes of Manesseh and Dan joined forces and became the Macedonians or Macedanians (Manasseh + Dan = Macedanians) They fled to Greece where they wore white kilts
like the Egyptian pharaohs, played goat skinned bagpipes, adopted the Greek culture and settled along the River Danube which they named after the tribe of Dan.

http://www.phoenician.org/Phoenician_ship_Tyre_-_big.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banias

http://www.tribwatch.com/hyksos.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_Neferti

[dunadan]

Where they the same as the 'usurper-sheppard kings'?:)

[lightgiver]

Where they the same as the 'usurper-sheppard kings'?:)

This is something I previously pieced together elsewhere which maybe of interest to some.



According to the Hebrew Bible, the golden calf (עֵגֶּל הַזָהָב ‘ēggel hazâhâḇ) was an idol (a cult image) made by Aaron to satisfy the Israelites during Moses' absence, when he went up to Mount Sinai.

In Hebrew, the incident is known as ḥēṭ’ ha‘ēggel (חֵטְא הַעֵגֶּל) or "The Sin of the Calf". It is first mentioned in Exodus 32:4. Bull worship was common in many cultures. In Egypt, whence according to the Exodus narrative the Hebrews had recently come, the Apis Bull and the bull-headed Khnum were comparable objects of worship, which some believe the Hebrews were reviving in the wilderness; alternatively, some believe the God of Israel was associated with or pictured as a calf/bull deity through the process of religious assimilation and syncretism. Among the Egyptians' and Hebrews' neighbors in the Ancient Near East and in the Aegean, the Aurochs, the wild bull, was widely worshipped, often as the Lunar Bull and as the creature of El. Its Minoan manifestation survived as the Cretan Bull of Greek myth. In India Nandi (a bull) is said to be the vehicle of Lord Shiva and is therefore prayed to by many Hindus.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6488/800pxgoldcalf.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/800pxgoldcalf.jpg/)
Adoration of the Golden Calf by Nicolas Poussin: imagery influenced by the Greco-Roman bacchanal



Hathor (ḥwt-ḥr, Egyptian for Horus's enclosure), was an Ancient Egyptian goddess who personified the principles of love, beauty, music, motherhood and joy. She was one of the most important and popular deities throughout the history of Ancient Egypt. Hathor was worshiped by Royalty and common people alike in whose tombs she is depicted as “Mistress of the West” welcoming the dead into the next life.. In other roles she was a goddess of music, dance, foreign lands and fertility who helped women in childbirth, as well as the patron goddess of miners

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4228/800pxgdegcairemuse091.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/800pxgdegcairemuse091.jpg/)
Sculpture of Hathor as a cow, with all of her symbols, the sun disk, the cobra, as well as her necklace and crown.

The cult of Hathor pre-dates the historical period and the roots of devotion to her are, therefore, difficult to trace, though it may be a development of predynastic cults who venerated the fertility, and nature in general, represented by cows

She also was described sometimes as mistress of the necropolis. The assimilation of Bat, who was associated with the sistrum, a musical instrument, brought with it an association with music. In this later form, Hathor's cult became centred in Dendera in Upper Egypt and it was led by priestesses and priests who also were dancers, singers, and other entertainers.

Hathor also became associated with the menat, the turquoise musical necklace often worn by women. A hymn to Hathor says:

Thou art the Mistress of Jubilation, the Queen of the Dance, the Mistress of Music, the Queen of the Harp Playing, the Lady of the Choral Dance, the Queen of Wreath Weaving, the Mistress of Inebriety Without End.


ABBA : Dancing Queen (Live Australia '77)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQpbL5arLA

HYK /S.O.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFaK7UFGcNo

Names of God - Elohim - YHWH - Yahweh - Adonai - Abba - Tetragrammaton

El, Elohim, Sabaôth, Eliôn, Asher yeheyeh, Adonai, Jah, JHVH, and Shaddai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

[lightgiver]

"To the ancients, as yet inventors of no astronomical instruments, and looking at the Heavens with the eyes of children, this earth was a level plain of unknown extent. About its boundaries there was speculation, but no knowledge. The inequalities of its surface were the irregularities of a plane. That it was a globe, or that anything lived on its under surface, or on what it rested, they had no idea. Every twenty-four hours the sun came up from beyond the Eastern rim of the world, and travelled across the sky, over the earth, always South of, but sometimes nearer and sometimes further from the point overhead; and sunk below the world's Western rim. With him went light, and after him followed darkness.

And every twenty-four hours appeared in the Heavens another body, visible chiefly at night, but sometimes even when the sun shone, which likewise, as if following the sun at a greater or less distance, travelled across the sky; sometimes as a thin crescent, and thence increasing to a full orb resplendent with silver light; and sometimes more and sometimes less to the Southward of the point overhead, within the same limits as the Sun

From the journey of the Sun through the twelve signs came the legend of the twelve labors of Hercules, and the incarnations of Vishnu and Buddha. Hence came the legend of the murder of Khūrūm, representative of the Sun, by the three Fellow-crafts, symbols of the three Winter signs, Capricornus, Aquarius, and Pisces, who assailed him at the three gates of Heaven and slew him at the Winter Solstice. Hence the search for him by the nine Fellow-crafts, the other nine signs, his finding, burial, and resurrection.

The celestial Taurus, opening the new year, was the Creative Bull of the Hindus and Japanese, breaking with his horn the egg out of which the world is born. Hence the bull Arts was worshipped by the Egyptians, and reproduced as a golden calf by Aaron in the desert. Hence the cow was sacred to the Hindus. Hence, from the sacred and beneficent signs of Taurus and Leo, the human-headed winged lions and bulls in the palaces at Kouyounjik and Nimroud, like which were the Cherubim set by Solomon in his Temple: and hence the twelve brazen or bronze oxen, on which the laver of brass was supported.

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/stellar/scenes/seiza/tau.jpg

The Celestial Vulture or Eagle, rising and setting with the Scorpion, was substituted in its place, in many cases, on account of the malign influences of the latter: and thus the four great periods of the year were marked by the Bull, the Lion, the Man (Aquarius) and the Eagle; which were upon the respective standards of Ephraim, Judah, Reuben, and Dan; and still appear on the shield of American Royal Arch Masonry.

Afterward the Ram or Lamb became an object of adoration, when, in his turn, he opened the equinox, to deliver the world from the wintry reign of darkness and evil."


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/TaurusCC.jpg
The constellation Taurus as it can be seen by naked eye.


In Babylonian astronomy, the Taurus constellation was listed in the MUL.APIN as GU4.AN.NA, “The Heavenly Bull”. It was also the first constellation in the Babylonian zodiac and described as “The Bull in Front.”


The same depiction of the “Heavenly Bull” was in the Dendera zodiac, an Egyptian bas relief carving in a ceiling that depicted the celestial hemisphere using a planisphere.


Lambda Tauri (λ Tau / λ Tauri) is a triple star system in the constellation Taurus.

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/tau03r-t.jpg

Moses - Ten Commandments - Mel Brooks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk

Sarcophagus of the Crown Prince Thutmose's cat, Ta-miu
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9041/800pxsarcophagusofprinc.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/800pxsarcophagusofprinc.jpg/)

http://www.mafdet.org/tA-Miaut.html

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/tau-t.html

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Taurus_(constellation)

[taboo]

Brilliant post. Thank you

[lightgiver]

You are Welcome ;)

Black Pool = Pool of Oil...the word oil comes from Old French "oile", from Latin "oleum", which in turn comes from the Greek "ἔλαιον" (elaion), "olive oil, oil"and that from "ἐλαία" (elaia), "olive tree"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil

Black is the colour of objects that do not emit or reflect light in any part of the visible spectrum; they absorb all such frequencies of light.

In population genetics, a gene pool is the complete set of unique alleles in a species or population.

The term Black Irish is ambiguous. People in different times and places have used it for separate reasons. Opinions also vary in regard to what is perceived as the usual physical characteristics of the so-called black Irish: e.g., dark hair, brown eyes, and medium skin tone; or dark hair, blue or green eyes, and fair skin tone.

All oils can be traced back to organic sources.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Italian_olive_oil_2007.jpg/220px-Italian_olive_oil_2007.jpg

Glastonberry Grove

A circle of twelve sycamore trees with a ring of stones with a pool of oil in its center. Glastonberry Grove is situated within Ghostwood National Forest. Glastonberry Grove is the gateway to the Waiting Room and the Lodges but it is only open upon the Conjuction of Jupiter and Saturn. The Owl Cave map/calender mark the gateway and the time it is open.

The American sycamore is a favoured food plant of the pest sycamore leaf beetle...Neo chlamisus platani is a species in the leaf beetle genus Neo chlamisus.

Adults mating on the host plant Platanus occidentalis
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bf/Nplatanimatingonsyc.jpg/800px-Nplatanimatingonsyc.jpg

Daniel receives the Holy Spirit in a truly genuine way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOuzTWgWBcA
"There will be blood"

Fire Walk With Me - You really need to watch the Twin Peaks series to get the full picture of this movie -

http://www.glastonberrygrove.net/info/presskit/fwwmprs4.jpg

The Black Lodge is the home of the condemned soul. After the judgement of the Dweller on the Threshold, the soul is passed either to the Black Lodge or the White Lodge. The Black Lodge can be identified with Flashing Lights within the dark confines of the Waiting Room. It is in the Black Lodge that most of the Dopplgangers appear. The Black Lodge is notable for producing a sense of fear.


Bob is Bob.
Eager for fun.
He wears a smile.
Everybody run.

Chant

Through the darkness of futures past.
The magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds.
Fire Walk With Me.

Conjunction

The doorway to the Waiting Room and the Lodges is always closed until, according to the Owl Cave Map/Calendar, the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn. The conjunction of the two planets produces great shifts in power and fortune.



Doppleganger

The shadow self. One's darker, evil side. Everyone has a Doppleganger in the Black Lodge.

Through the darkness of future past
The magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds
Fire walk with me.

Only when the Man says "Fire walk with me" does the realm erupt into flames, and then descend into flickering blackness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWGys_b3xM

"Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9kejvxRokg&feature=related

Twin Peaks: Tibet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_White_Lodge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

[dunadan]

Hi LG, nice work!

As mentioned/hinted at before, the different 'Celtic' (sic) types can be attributed to, loosely speaking, the morgana blood lines et al, two distinct main types fair skined/fair/red/hair/blue eyes, and the fair skin and dark hair blue/green or dark eyes......

The Celts would not have known themselves as such.....the term Celt would not have been known to them, it was a name given by others (as discussed before). There would be a mixture of Pictsidhe et al. within the so called Celtic groups.....

:)

[theroach]

Haven't read the thread, but L.A.Waddell covered this in his book about the Phoenicians/Red Heads...as did Comyns Beaumont in his work, using Waddell as a source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Comyns_Beaumont

I highly recommend his book....The Riddle of Prehistoric Britain, although they are not easy to get hold of.

Sorry if it has been mentioned already.

[dunadan]

Haven't read the thread, but L.A.Waddell covered this in his book about the Phoenicians/Red Heads...as did Comyns Beaumont in his work, using Waddell as a source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Comyns_Beaumont

I highly recommend his book....The Riddle of Prehistoric Britain, although they are not easy to get hold of.

Good Post:)

Looks like CB's work has influenced a fair few writers and commentators....

:):)

[theroach]

Good Post:)

Looks like CB's work has influenced a fair few writers and commentators....

:):)


Oh yes...Veliskovsky for example, the naughty plagerist.

I love my Beaumont books (they are packed with great info)...wish I could get my hands on more, the prices and very high though.

Other than 'The Riddle...' I have 'Britain The Key to World History'....would like to get hold of the Comet's book.

I'll take a copy off your hands for free... ;)

[dunadan]

Oh yes...Veliskovsky for example, the naughty plagerist.

I love my Beaumont books (they are packed with great info)...wish I could get my hands on more, the prices and very high though.

Other than 'The Riddle...' I have 'Britain The Key to World History'....would like to get hold of the Comet's book.

I'll take a copy off your hands for free... ;)

Ha Ha:D

They're like gold dust and that is for sure - I dont own any of my own - friends let me look if I am good!;):D

Keep Posting,

Dunadan:)

[lightgiver]

Are there any other sources to back these claims up - besides Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain?



Do you know of any ?

The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na",


Alien Resurrection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1myB44Tjiw

The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian deities. The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood' or 'princely offspring'. Their relation to the group of gods known as the Igigi is unclear - at times the names are used synonymously but in the Atra-Hasis flood myth they have to work for the Anunnaki, rebelling after 40 days and replaced by the creation of humans,

Enki gives cheer for the new ewe Sheep for meat on Earth.

The Anunnaki being as much meat-eaters as anything else while here on Earth, they preferred the race of Abel's offering of meat over the race of Cain's ...

[frequency]

Without posting here, I've tried twice in ten minutes to bring other threads to the forefront... I'm a newbie, is there some sort of cospiracy here that i sould know about??? Much love...

[dunadan]

Without posting here, I've tried twice in ten minutes to bring other threads to the forefront... I'm a newbie, is there some sort of cospiracy here that i sould know about??? Much love...

Welcome:)

I have found the this site relatively glich free, yet sometimes it comes under attack.

ATB,

Dunadan:)

[dunadan]

Do you know of any ?

The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na",


Alien Resurrection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1myB44Tjiw

The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian deities. The name is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood' or 'princely offspring'. Their relation to the group of gods known as the Igigi is unclear - at times the names are used synonymously but in the Atra-Hasis flood myth they have to work for the Anunnaki, rebelling after 40 days and replaced by the creation of humans,

Enki gives cheer for the new ewe Sheep for meat on Earth.

The Anunnaki being as much meat-eaters as anything else while here on Earth, they preferred the race of Abel's offering of meat over the race of Cain's ...

Hi LG:)

I have routed around and there maybe a few, yet I am now concerned that such are derivative......so it needs more work on my behalf:rolleyes:

I tend to allow intuition to lead me to various sources/discoveries and over the past year of being on here - and writing on different subjects - I have become a little lazy on this aspect/research :rolleyes:

Of course Tolkien et al. hinted heavily at such e.g. dunedain et al....

:)

[lightgiver]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8162/51h0rv5ixl.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/51h0rv5ixl.jpg/)

Black

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3811/8313901md.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/8313901md.jpg/)

PooL

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1834/602pxmibsvg.png (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/602pxmibsvg.png/)

Eyesis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iK5XOHsfsQ
The Thing(Part 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m48GqaOz90

Boom Boom Pow

[lightgiver]

There will be blood as Scots stake claim to Black Dracula POOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIXBlBrTx-k

Giganten, Giant, 1956.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5P5CKsbphA

GIANT "JAMES DEAN" FIGHT

RESIDENTS of the Blackpool FleetWood Mac seaside town where Bram Stoker wrote Dracula are spitting blood after owners of a Scottish castle STAKED a CLAIM to be an inspiration for the story.

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2-ZMhxTUs
Bram's Stoker's Dracula

[dunadan]

There will be blood as Scots stake claim to Black Dracula POOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIXBlBrTx-k

Giganten, Giant, 1956.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5P5CKsbphA

GIANT "JAMES DEAN" FIGHT

RESIDENTS of the Blackpool FleetWood Mac seaside town where Bram Stoker wrote Dracula are spitting blood after owners of a Scottish castle STAKED a CLAIM to be an inspiration for the story.

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2-ZMhxTUs
Bram's Stoker's Dracula

Hi LG

Where are you going with this now?

Bram Stoker wrote Dracula in Blackpool, not according to orthadox history he didnt?:confused: Fleetwood Mac??

Scotish Castle inspiration? Not heard that one before..... As I wrote elsewhere on here, Prince Charles was angry that a theme park was to be built in Transilvania so as to cash in on his long dead ancestor Vlad.........

Dunadan

[lightgiver]

Thieves.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8502/bpoil.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/bpoil.jpg/)


In Isis Lam, the Devil is known as Iblīs (Arabic إبليس) or Shayṭan (Shaitān) (Arabic: شيطان‎) (plural: شياطين Shayātīn). According to the Qur'an, God created Iblis out of "smokeless fire" (along with all of the other jinn) and created man out of clay. The primary characteristic of the Devil, besides hubris, is that he has no power other than the power to cast evil suggestions into the heart of men, women, and jinn.

ACs
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/156/lamfy.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/lamfy.jpg/)
LAM = IS IS LAM.



Telepathy (from the Greek τηλε, tele meaning "distant" and πάθη, pathe meaning "affliction, experience"), is the transfer of information on thoughts or feelings between individuals by means other than the "five classic senses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy

According to basic Islamic teachings, God created at least three intelligent races: angels, jinns, and humans, of which the latter two have been granted free will to choose between good and evil.

Iblis was proud and arrogant and considered himself superior to Adam, since Adam was made from clay and Iblis was created from smokeless fire. For this act of disobedience, God cursed him to Hell for eternity, but gave him respite until the Day of Judgment (Qiyamah), after Iblis requested it. Iblis obtained permission from God and vowed that he would use this time to lead all human men and women astray to Hell as a way of revenge against them. By refusing to obey God’s order he was thrown out of Paradise and thereafter he was called "Shaitan".

February 1, 2003

* Space Shuttle Columbia incident: The Space Shuttle Columbia was reported to have disintegrated over Texas on its final approach to a landing after its 28th space mission. All seven crew members were killed in the disaster. It was later discovered that a piece of foam insulation ??? had broken off the external fuel tank and punctured a hole in the left wing during launch.

* A crowded passenger train and a freight train collided head on and burst into flames in northwestern Zimbabwe, killing 40 people and injuring about 60. The wreckage was still burning 14 hours after the collision.

* Seven high school students from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, were killed when an avalanche swept over them on a school ski trip. The remaining ten members of the ski trip survived.


February 3, 2003

Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri claims Space Shuttle Columbia disaster is a sign from God. He says "It is a punishment from God. Muslims see it that way. It is a trinity of evil because it carried Americans, an Israeli and a Hindu, a trinity of evil against Islam." al-Masri's remarks are widely denounced by many other Muslim clerics.

Abu Hamza al-Masri was born in Alexandria, Egypt, in 1958. He is the son of a middle class army officer. In 1979, he entered the UK on a student visa.[1] Masri's initial reaction to life in Britain was to describe it as "a paradise, where you could do anything you wanted.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Abu_Khabub_al-Masri_-_aka_-_Midhat_Mursi_al-Sayid_Umar.jpg
An early picture of Abu Hamza al-Masri, prior to losing an eye to an explosion.

In the early 1990s, Masri lived in Bosnia, with a forged identity document, where he fought alongside Bosniak Muslims against Christian Serbs and Croats during the Bosnian War.

Counterterrorism expert John Loftus will later claim that Aswat in fact was working with British intelligence. He will say that in the late 1990s British intelligence was trying to get Islamist militants to fight in Kosovo against the Serbians and Aswat was part of this recruitment effort (see July 29, 2005). [Fox News, 7/29/2005]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2xhVjH-6c
The Thing(Part 7)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri

[lightgiver]

A priest or priestess is one authorized to perform the sacred rites of a religion especially as a mediatory agent between humans and deities. They also have the authority or power to administer religious rites; in particular, rites of sacrifice to, and propitiation of, a deity or deities. Their office or position is the priesthood, a term which may also apply to such persons collectively.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/845/theomen1976prieststabbe.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/theomen1976prieststabbe.jpg/)

Ancient Egypt

In Ancient Egyptian religion, God's Wife of Amun was the highest ranking priestess and was held by a daughter of the High Priest of Amun, during the reign of Hatshepsut while the capital of Egypt was in Thebes during the second millennium BCE (circa 2160 BC).

Later, the Divine Adoratrice of Amun was a title created for the chief priestess of Amun. During the first millennium BCE, when the holder of this office exercised her largest measure of influence, her position was an important appointment facilitating the transfer of power from one pharaoh to the next, when his daughter was adopted to fill it by the incumbent office holder. The Divine Adoratrice ruled over the extensive temple duties and domains, controlling a significant part of the ancient Egyptian economy.


The Omen - Father Brennan's Death Scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-GQGBT3VE

Let's take a look at the dress code of the Religious Denominations today which was Stolen from The Egyptians . The Egyptians were the First To Wear White Robes in their Religious Ceremonies and Rituals as a Symbol of Purification . The Mourners At Funerals Also Wore The Color White . The Wearing Of The Color Black Was Copied From The Egyptian Supreme Being Anubis , Who Was Know As The Black Jackal Dog At The Funerals . The Original Religious Sects Such As Shi'ite Muslims Wore The Color Black , However You Have The Many Branches Of Muslims Today That Wear White . The Original Christians Wore Black , However You Have The Pope And Different Christian Sect That Wear White Today . The Chemarims Or Khamarim Are The Black -Robed Priests Of Baal , Who Were Appointed By The Kings Of Judah To Conduct Worship In High Places . Chemarims '' Idolatrous Priest '' , Comes From The Root Word Kamar Meaning '' To Be Black '' , And Explained That The '' Idolatrous Priest '' Wore Black Garments ( Zephaniah 1 ; 4 ) , Which The Raabis And Cohen's Wear Today .

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7004/tutanhkamunjackal.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/tutanhkamunjackal.jpg/)

In Italy, on June 6th 1966 , a pregnant Jackal gave birth to Damien Thorn, the son of Satan.:eek:

In the original film, Damien was born in Rome at 6:00 a.m. on June 6 in 1971

This legacy is continued in Damien: Omen II, when a blood test indicates that Damien has a cell structure that closely resembles the cell structure of a Jackal.

http://www.philae.nu/philae/priesthood.html

http://www.egyptianliving.com/egyptology/579-did-you-know-stories-holy-bible-2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_characters_in_The_Omen_series

[pri01]

A priest or priestess is one authorized to perform the sacred rites of a religion especially as a mediatory agent between humans and deities. They also have the authority or power to administer religious rites; in particular, rites of sacrifice to, and propitiation of, a deity or deities. Their office or position is the priesthood, a term which may also apply to such persons collectively.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/845/theomen1976prieststabbe.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/theomen1976prieststabbe.jpg/)

Ancient Egypt

In Ancient Egyptian religion, God's Wife of Amun was the highest ranking priestess and was held by a daughter of the High Priest of Amun, during the reign of Hatshepsut while the capital of Egypt was in Thebes during the second millennium BCE (circa 2160 BC).

Later, the Divine Adoratrice of Amun was a title created for the chief priestess of Amun. During the first millennium BCE, when the holder of this office exercised her largest measure of influence, her position was an important appointment facilitating the transfer of power from one pharaoh to the next, when his daughter was adopted to fill it by the incumbent office holder. The Divine Adoratrice ruled over the extensive temple duties and domains, controlling a significant part of the ancient Egyptian economy.


The Omen - Father Brennan's Death Scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-GQGBT3VE

Let's take a look at the dress code of the Religious Denominations today which was Stolen from The Egyptians . The Egyptians were the First To Wear White Robes in their Religious Ceremonies and Rituals as a Symbol of Purification . The Mourners At Funerals Also Wore The Color White . The Wearing Of The Color Black Was Copied From The Egyptian Supreme Being Anubis , Who Was Know As The Black Jackal Dog At The Funerals . The Original Religious Sects Such As Shi'ite Muslims Wore The Color Black , However You Have The Many Branches Of Muslims Today That Wear White . The Original Christians Wore Black , However You Have The Pope And Different Christian Sect That Wear White Today . The Chemarims Or Khamarim Are The Black -Robed Priests Of Baal , Who Were Appointed By The Kings Of Judah To Conduct Worship In High Places . Chemarims '' Idolatrous Priest '' , Comes From The Root Word Kamar Meaning '' To Be Black '' , And Explained That The '' Idolatrous Priest '' Wore Black Garments ( Zephaniah 1 ; 4 ) , Which The Raabis And Cohen's Wear Today .

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7004/tutanhkamunjackal.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/tutanhkamunjackal.jpg/)

In Italy, on June 6th 1966 , a pregnant Jackal gave birth to Damien Thorn, the son of Satan.:eek:

In the original film, Damien was born in Rome at 6:00 a.m. on June 6 in 1971

This legacy is continued in Damien: Omen II, when a blood test indicates that Damien has a cell structure that closely resembles the cell structure of a Jackal.

http://www.philae.nu/philae/priesthood.html

http://www.egyptianliving.com/egyptology/579-did-you-know-stories-holy-bible-2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_characters_in_The_Omen_series


The cell structure of all animals including humans is the same? The only thing that differs is the chromosomal count and the DNA make up. What are you relating that comment towards?

[lightgiver]

The cell structure of all animals including humans is the same? The only thing that differs is the chromosomal count and the DNA make up. What are you relating that comment towards?

Nothing in particleular,

Just Highlighting the comparisons of Ancient re lie gions or Ra legions.

:)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2655/250pxsg1stargate.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/250pxsg1stargate.jpg/)

[lightgiver]

G ates

(municipality of the capital city, saint john the baptist), is the capital and most populous municipality in puerto rico, an unincorporated territory of the united states.

From top left: Aerial view of San Juan, an Old San Juan street, the San Juan Gate and La Fortaleza, Plaza de Colon and the Puerto Rico Capitol
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Montage_San_Juan.JPG/416px-Montage_San_Juan.JPG

today, san juan is one of puerto rico's most important seaports, and is the island's manufacturing, financial, cultural, and tourism center.

The city has been the host of numerous important events within the sports community, including the 1979 pan american games, 1966 central american and caribbean games, 2006 and 2009 world baseball classics, the caribbean series and the special olympics and mlb san juan series in 2010.


Coat of arms san juan
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7403/363pxcoatofarmssanjuanp.png (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/363pxcoatofarmssanjuanp.png/)

("coat of arms given to puerto rico by the catholic monarchs in the year 1511 being procurator a neighbor named pedro moreno.

Nickname(s): La ciudad amurallada (the walled city), ciudad capital (capital city)

SJ aerial View 1952.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ec/SJ_aerial_View_1952.JPG/745px-SJ_aerial_View_1952.JPG

according to the 2006-2008 american community survey, the racial composition of san juan was as follows:

* white: 63.1% (non-hispanic whites: 3.6%)
* black or african american: 19.4% (non-hispanic blacks: 3.1%)
* american indian: 0.4%
* asian: 1.7%
* native hawaiian/pacific islander: 0.0%
* some other race: 10.3%
* two or more races: 5.1%

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/CHART_2_.jpg

Torre Universidad de-Puerto Rico Rio Piedras
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Torre_Universidad_de-Puerto_Rico_Rio_Piedras.jpg/450px-Torre_Universidad_de-Puerto_Rico_Rio_Piedras.jpg

University of Puerto Rico School of Medicine
http://rickymartinfoundation.org/upr.jpg

school of medicine | medical science campus - university of puerto rico:

University of puerto rico

The University of Puerto Rico (UPR) is the state university system of Puerto Rico. The system consists of 11 campuses and has approximately 64,511 students and 5,300 faculty members.[3] UPR has the largest and most diverse academic offerings in Puerto Rico and the Caribbean, with 472 academic programs and 32 doctoral programs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Upr_logo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Upr_logo_3.gif

28 days later...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHf6Th-E3kE

* upr on the use of animals in biomedical and behavioral research
* informe facultad mayo, 2010
* protocolo de manejo de epidemia de influenza a h1n1 en rcm


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8254/bermudatriangle.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/bermudatriangle.jpg/)

UPRM Portal s.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/UPRM_Portal_s.jpg
Portico of the Mayaguez Campus (RUM)

University of Puerto Rico at Mayagüez
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/University_of_Puerto_Rico_at_Mayaguez.logo.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/university_of_puerto_rico_at_mayag%c3%bcez

motto antes, ahora y siempre, colegio!

Motto in english "before, now and forever, colegio!"

established september 23, 1911

portico1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/portico1.jpg/800px-portico1.jpg

tarzán is the official mascot of the university of puerto rico at mayaguez, also known as "colegio".

Tarzán x

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ed/Tarzan_UPRM_logo.jpg/150px-Tarzan_UPRM_logo.jpg

the current mascot; tarzán x arrived december 2003 from a family of champion dogs raised in the state of texas.[3] the twin daughters of díaz piferrer; margarita and milagros have the task of taking care of the canine.[3] according to diaz piferrer he even sleeps in their room with air conditioning.[3] the dog was donated by the alumni association presided by dr. Fred soltero harrington.[4] tarzán x was baptized in a mass celebrated by father edwin lugo; the religious act was celebrated on january 3, 2003 in the student center building

puerto rico

in 1946 the "colegio" was one of the most successful universities in sports in puerto rico.[2] by that time johnny weissmüller had made the character of tarzan very popular, his character incarnated masculinity, courage and athleticism and for that reason up until 1946 the university would dress a student up as the loincloth tarzan to cheer on the mayagüez student-athletes.[2] in later years a lion and even a puma where considered for school mascots, but those were ruled out because of the laws would not be allowed to be paraded

coat of arms
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/738/450pxescudodepuertorico.png (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/450pxescudodepuertorico.png/)

Flag of Puerto Rico
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Flag_of_Puerto_Rico.svg/800px-Flag_of_Puerto_Rico.svg.png

puerto rico ( /ˌpwɛərtə ˈriːkoʊ/ or /ˌpɔrtə ˈriːkoʊ/), officially the commonwealth of puerto rico (spanish: "estado libre asociado de puerto rico", [esˈtaðo ˈlibɾe asosˈjaðo ðe ˈpweɾto ˈriko] — literally associated free state of puerto rico), is an unincorporated territory of the united states, located in the northeastern caribbean sea, east of the dominican republic and west of the virgin islands.

The island is also popularly known in spanish as "la isla del encanto" which means "the island of enchantment" in english.

Puerto ricans often call the island borinquen, from borikén, its indigenous taíno name, which means "land of the valiant lord"

http://www.md.rcm.upr.edu/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/san_juan,_puerto_rico

http://rickymartinfoundation.org/intiativesinpuertorico.html

BIll.

[exford]

Here's a place I've come across, which could well be an ancient Scottish pyramid/mound. By typing in Duntreath Castle into Google Maps you can also see from above the base of the mound appears almost square.
Known as Dumgoyach; the hill sits alongside the trail of the west highland way, a route popular for tourists and walkers.

As you can see, there are a small group of stones arranged/aligned nearby. They are known as the Duntreath Standing Stones.




http://www.scotsindependent.org/2006/060804/dumgoyach.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3568/3568186468_a61f90e3cb.jpg


http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/35630.jpg

http://www.adventurejournal.com/wp-content/gallery/whw-1b/WHW006.jpg

[lightgiver]

Great Post Exford :cool:

Dealey Plaza (pronounced /ˈdiːli/), in the historic West End district of downtown Dallas, Texas (U.S.), is the location of the assassination of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8527/atlant170.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/atlant170.jpg/)
The John F. Kennedy Eternal Flame is a presidential memorial at the gravesite of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, in Arlington National Cemetery.


An assassination is the murder of a prominent or public figure, usually by surprise attack and for political purposes.

Assassinations may be prompted by religious, ideological, political, or military reasons(arms dealers). Additionally, assassins may be motivated by financial gain, revenge, or personal public recognition.

Pont de l'Alma (Alma Bridge in English) is an arch bridge in Paris, crossing the Seine
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3391/dianaparismaplg.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/dianaparismaplg.jpg/)
The bridge is close to the eponymous Pont de l'Alma tunnel where Diana, Princess of Wales died in a car accident along with her companion Dodi Fayed and driver Henri Paul on 31 August 1997. The Flame of Liberty at the bridge's north end has become an unofficial memorial to Diana.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Pyramid.svg/790px-Pyramid.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(geometry)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/John_D._Rockefeller%2C_Jr._%281915%29.jpg

Rockefeller was born in Bar Harbor, Maine. He was the son of John Davison Rockefeller, Jr.

The U.S. President's Commission on CIA activities within the United States was set up under President Gerald Ford in 1975 to investigate the activities of the CIA within the United States. The commission was led by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, and is sometimes referred to as the Rockefeller Commission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLPA4UOOWP8

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8732/eiffeltowernight.jpg (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/eiffeltowernight.jpg/)

Some more Spot the Difference ??

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7889/150blackpooltowernight7.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/150blackpooltowernight7.jpg/)

Song for the Anzestors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HB2miRgPpY

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154296&page=4

[dunadan]

Here's a place I've come across, which could well be an ancient Scottish pyramid/mound. By typing in Duntreath Castle into Google Maps you can also see from above the base of the mound appears almost square.
Known as Dumgoyach; the hill sits alongside the trail of the west highland way, a route popular for tourists and walkers.

As you can see, there are a small group of stones arranged/aligned nearby. They are known as the Duntreath Standing Stones.




http://www.scotsindependent.org/2006/060804/dumgoyach.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3568/3568186468_a61f90e3cb.jpg


http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/35630.jpg

http://www.adventurejournal.com/wp-content/gallery/whw-1b/WHW006.jpg

Good Post:)

LG, what about the stuff on Dracula and Blackpool - where were you going with that?

Dunadan:)

[lightgiver]

Good Post:)

LG, what about the stuff on Dracula and Blackpool - where were you going with that?

Dunadan:)

You are Just Teasing and Trolling aren't you, why would you quote that post when its already been quoted ?

Bruce Lee's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMAW6RZR2fA
Ben Dracula

[dunadan]

You are Just Teasing and Trolling aren't you, why would you quote that post when its already been quoted ?

Bruce Lee's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMAW6RZR2fA
Ben Dracula


Teasing? - No! Trolling? - Definately NOT!

I just wanted some clarification on your thoughts and comments on such subjects....BTW where else was it 'quoted'?

It is a genuine enquiry......I am interested in the background of the real Dracula, and indeed Bram Stoker also. You made comments about Bram Stoker writing about such whilst in Blackpool....which my studies hadnt indicated......

I am also a fan of Fleetwood Mac and I wondered why you mentioned them also......

I like the fact that you have provided a 'stream of consciousness' yet surely you would wish to be quesioned or that others would critique your comments, thoughts or work.....that is how we all get to the truth.

:)

Dunadan.

[dunadan]

:)


LG,

Do you ever engage in replies or explanations?

Or do you just post an endless stream of 'cut and paste'?

Do you every have any 'first principles' thoughts of your own on the subjects that you post - because I would genuinely love to hear more......

Why cant you answer my questions on Blackpool/Stoker/Fleetwood/Dracula - what are you afraid of, your belief system being crushed? Well dont be - the truth will benefit us all....

Regards,

Dunadan:)

[lightgiver]

LG,

Do you ever engage in replies or explanations?

Or do you just post an endless stream of 'cut and paste'?

Do you every have any 'first principles' thoughts of your own on the subjects that you post - because I would genuinely love to hear more......

Why cant you answer my questions on Blackpool/Stoker/Fleetwood/Dracula - what are you afraid of, your belief system being crushed? Well dont be - the truth will benefit us all....

Regards,

Dunadan:)

Why dont you start planting some info instead of Taking and Whining and try and think for yourself.

[lightgiver]

:)


A star (or stars) and crescent featuring in some combination form the basis of symbols widely found across the ancient world, with examples attested from the Eastern Mediterranean and Central Asia. Today it is most widely recognized as a symbol of Islam, or the Muslim community.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Star_and_Crescent.svg/283px-Star_and_Crescent.svg.png

The star and crescent appear in combination in finds from in and around ancient Israel. It has been associated with the Moabites (14th or early 13th – 6th century BC), as the symbol or symbols appear on what are thought to be Moabite name seals. Crescents appearing together with a star or stars are a common feature of Sumerian iconography, the crescent usually being associated with the moon god Sin and the star (often identified as Venus) with Ishtar. However, in this context, there is a third element often seen, that being the sun disk of Shamash. Academic discussion of a star or stars together with crescents in Sumerian representations does not always clearly indicate if they appear in isolation (the "star and crescent" as such) or as part of a triad of symbols, "the three celestial emblems, the sun disk of Samas, the crescent of Sin, and the star of Istar" or "the crescent of Sin (the moon god), the star of Ishtar and the ray of Shamash". Nevertheless, later use of the star and crescent by the Parthians, and other Iranian dynasties is often traced to earlier use in Mesopotamia. As one scholar observed, "[t]he Parthian king Mithradates I conquered Mesopotamia around 147 BC, and Susa in about 140 BC A later Parthian king, Orodes II (58-38 BC), issued coins at Susa and elsewhere which display a star and crescent on the obverse. The succeeding ruler, Phraates IV (38-3/2 BC), minted coins showing either a star alone or a star with crescent moon. In representing the star and crescent on their coins the Parthians thus adopted traditional symbols used in Mesopotamia and Elam more than two millennia before their own arrival in those parts." Along these lines, some scholars maintain that later use of the symbol arose from Babylonian mythology in which the juxtaposition of Sin (moon god, father of time) and Shamash (supreme ruling sun god, judge of heaven and earth) was a metaphor for the cosmic powers given to the Babylonian king to rule.


Enlil’s family was given the Sinai (taken away from Ninharsag) and Enlil’s son, Sin, was its new ruler. His symbol is the crescent moon (which became the symbol for Islam).


http://static.newworldencyclopedia.org/thumb/e/eb/Kudurru_Melishipak_Louvre_Sb23.jpg/494px-Kudurru_Melishipak_Louvre_Sb23.jpg
King Melishipak I (1186–1172 B.C.E.) presents his daughter. The crescent moon represents Sîn, while the sun and star represent Shamash and Ishtar.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Crescentandmoon.jpg
The Moon behind the crescent symbol of a mosque. Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan

The Fertile Crescent was a crescent shaped fertile area of land between Ancient Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt.

Surah 53 of the Qur’an


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-06/19/xin_43206041917335782550329.jpg

PLANET VENUS SITTING ON TOP OF THE CRESCENT MOON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KLwDn2_Gs

Venus is one of the four solar terrestrial planets, meaning that, like the Earth, it is a rocky body. In size and mass, it is very similar to the Earth, and is often described as Earth's "sister" or "twin".

As one of the brightest objects in the sky, Venus has been known since prehistoric times and as such has gained an entrenched position in human culture. It is described in Babylonian cuneiformic texts such as the Venus tablet of Ammisaduqa, which relates observations that possibly date from 1600 BC. The Babylonians named the planet Ishtar (Sumerian Inanna), the personification of womanhood, and goddess of love.

In Iranian mythology, especially in Persian mythology, the planet usually corresponds to the goddess Anahita. In some parts of Pahlavi literature the deities Aredvi Sura and Anahita are regarded as separate entities, the first one as a personification of the mythical river and the latter as a goddess of fertility which is associated with the planet Venus.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Venus-real.jpg/240px-Venus-real.jpg
The astronomical symbol for Venus is the same as that used in biology for the female sex: a circle with a small cross beneath. The Venus symbol also represents femininity, and in Western alchemy stood for the metal copper. Polished copper has been used for mirrors from antiquity, and the symbol for Venus has sometimes been understood to stand for the mirror of the goddess.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Shukra_cropped.jpg/345px-Shukra_cropped.jpg
Shukra is the Sanskrit name for Venus

Hilal (Arabic: هلال‎) is an Arabic term, first developed in pre-Islamic Arabia, meaning crescent moon--specifically, the very slight crescent moon that is first visible after a new moon. Muslims look for the hilal when determining the beginning and end of Islamic months, but they don't worship it. The Quran says: "And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." (41:37). The need to determine the precise time of the appearance of the hilal was one of the inducements for Muslim scholars to study astronomy

The Ottoman Empire started using the crescent moon along with a star after conquering Constantinople.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Pentagram_green.svg/500px-Pentagram_green.svg.png

Sumer

The first known uses of the pentagram are found in Mesopotamian writings dating to about 3000 BC. The Sumerian pentagrams served as pictograms for the word "UB" meaning "corner, angle, nook; a small room, cavity, hole; pitfall," suggesting something very similar to the pentemychos (see below on the Pythagorean use for what pentemychos means). In René Labat's index system of Sumerian hieroglyphs/pictograms it is shown with two points up. In the Babylonian context, the edges of the pentagram were probably orientations: forward, backward, left, right, and "above". These directions also had an astrological meaning, representing the five planets Jupiter, Mercury, Mars and Saturn, and Venus as the "Queen of Heaven" (Ishtar) above.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Pentagram-phi.svg/576px-Pentagram-phi.svg.png
A pentagram colored to distinguish its line segments of different lengths. The four lengths are in golden ratio to one another.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Libya.svg/800px-Flag_of_Libya.svg.png

Khidr or Al-Khiḍr (Arabic: الخضر‎ "the Green One", also transcribed Khidr, Khidar, Khizr, Khizar and (Persian: خضر), Turkish: Hızır) is an figure in Islam, who according to some sources, was a ‘Abdan Ṣālih (righteous servant of God), while according to others he was a prophet. Al-Khiḍr is best known for his appearance in the Qur'an in sura al-Kahf.[Qur'an 18:65] Although not mentioned by name in the āyah (verse), al-Khiḍr is assumed to be the figure that Musa (Moses) accompanies and whose seemingly violent and destructive actions so disturb Moses that he violates his oath not to ask questions.

Green was symbolic of resurrection and immortality in Ancient Egypt; the god Osiris was depicted as green-skinned.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Standing_Osiris_edit1.svg/220px-Standing_Osiris_edit1.svg.png
Osiris, lord of the dead. His green skin symbolizes re-birth.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/BD_Hunefer.jpg/800px-BD_Hunefer.jpg
Judgment scene from the Book of the Dead. In the three scenes from the Book of the Dead (version from ~1375 B.C.) the dead man (Hunefer) is taken into the judgement hall by the jackal-headed Anubis. The next scene is the weighing of his heart against the feather of Ma'at, with Ammut waiting the result, and Thoth recording. Next, the triumphant Henefer, having passed the test, is presented by the falcon-headed Horus to Osiris, seated in his shrine with Isis and Nephthys.

[dunadan]

Why dont you start planting some info instead of Taking and Whining and try and think for yourself.


My my..........

Me thinks that thou protests too much, why wont you answer my questions?

Taking and Whining?

Look at all - or any - of my Posts, very little, if any 'cut and paste', all my own work and thoughts.

I have helped many here.....have you? Are you capabale of such?

I am indeed a freethinker.......I am asking you for some answers to your comments - comments which appear to have been made at random with little thought or very little substance.......

I have been polite in my enquiries....why can you not be kind - and indeed polite - in return?

What is it that YOU have to hide?

Could it be a case of;- Sophorum Lapis Non Datur Lupus - upon your behalf? or.........

:):):p:D:D:D

[lightgiver]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1013/toweronrivingtonpikegeo.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/toweronrivingtonpikegeo.jpg/)

The Spy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjVI8q0Sk2o
The Door Keyhole..

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7817/9481cabbageeyew.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/9481cabbageeyew.jpg/)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059677758#post1059677758

[lightgiver]

As Above



Still hiding sssecrets ?

SLAVES

... get instructed in Psychlo.

Battlefield Earth -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUzrSAGJW6k

- Learning Machine
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8541/place100.gif (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/place100.gif/)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86662&page=168

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9931/dodecagram.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/dodecagram.jpg/)

Space...isis Deep

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6610/staticmaph.gif (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/staticmaph.gif/)

Ritual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT_qq-4DZWk

Hawkwind

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151467&page=4

So Below



Tommy Jones Obelisk.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Tommy_Jones_Obelisk.JPG/800px-Tommy_Jones_Obelisk.JPG

According to some demonologists of the 16th century, August is the month during which this demon's attacks against man are stronger. ...

After an anxious search of 29 days his remains were discovered September. Erected by voluntary subscriptions. W Powell Price Mayor of Brecon 1901."

The search was used as the theme of the 1980 film, Tommy Jones.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8773/elliotstreettyldesley.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/elliotstreettyldesley.jpg/)

An obelisk (from Greek ὀβελίσκος - obeliskos,

20 August 1980..Spot the Difference ?

Town A/TON.
http://www.nyt.co.uk/Atherton_Market_Street_1999.jpg

Town Farsley.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Town_Street%2C_Farsley.jpg/800px-Town_Street%2C_Farsley.jpg

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059678509#post1059678509

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherton,_Greater_Manchester

diminutive of ὀβελός - obelos, "spit, nail, pointed pillar"

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4295/213pxlouxorobeliskparis.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/213pxlouxorobeliskparis.jpg/)

St Johns.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5210/090629ffeda4e7.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/090629ffeda4e7.jpg/)

Stuck Clock Obelisk...on the Hill

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3554/250pxpythagoreansvg.png (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/250pxpythagoreansvg.png/)

Kinky Afro...

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7695/worsleyman.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/worsleyman.jpg/)

In August 1958, workmen digging peat in an area of Chat Moss near Worsley discovered a severed head and called the police.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Moss...I wonder how many more sacrificial heads are around that area ?

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/358/800pxminerinagallerypot.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/800pxminerinagallerypot.jpg/)


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65922&page=38

Sacrifice.

December 21, 1910

The Pretoria Pit disaster was a mining accident that occurred on 21 December 1910, when there was an underground explosion at the Hulton Bank Colliery No. 3 Pit, known as the Pretoria Pit, in Over Hulton, Westhoughton, then in the historic county of Lancashire, in North West England.

Background

There were approximately 2500 workers, employed by the Hulton Colliery Company during 1910. On the morning of the 21st December, approximately 900 workers arrived for the day shift. They were working five coal seams of the Manchester Coalfield; the Trencherbone, Plodder, Yard, Three-Quarters and Arley mines.

Explosion

At 7:50am, there was an explosion in the Plodder Mine, which was thought to have been caused by an accumulation of gas from a roof collapse the previous day.

That day 345 workers descended the No 3 pit shaft to work in the Plodder, Yard and Three Quarters mines. Of those, only four survived to be brought to the surface. One died immediately and one next day. The two survivors were Joseph Staveley and William Davenport. In addition one man died in the Arley Mine of No. 4 Pit and one rescuer died in No. 3 pit, giving a total of 344 fatalities. The men who were working the other mines in the pit worked from No.4 shaft were unharmed


Co or dinates 11 N 13 W

Aftermath

This was the second worst mining accident in England, and the third worst in Britain. Many of the fatalities were from the same family. The worst affected was the Tyldesley family in which Mrs Miriam Tyldesley lost her husband, four sons and two brothers. A relief fund was established for the families and dependents and a total of £145,000 was raised.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4934&page=198

[bittisgabonica]

This forum is a sea of knowledge, Amazing post OP. So your saying there is no footage of the Underground structures or tunnels? Nobody got a picture out or nothing eh? Thats too bad. I can only imagine, and it looks amazing.

[whizzer]

P.P.S. To whizzer, the Rom are from India. Their ancestors arrived in eastern Europe as the army of an invading Raj, who left them there. It was not fun.

You are wrong there I am afraid friend,, that is what we are fed based on made up, inaccurate and outright misleading nonsense concocted by University geeks in white coats getting paid too much to come up with bullshit statistics and blood grouping results compared to unconfirmed data collected by idiots , no the Roma originated from Egypt, they may have settled in India for a short time before moving into Europe but they most definitely came from Egypt. As far back as the 1200's they were known as Egyptians which is where the word Gypsy derives from, but "historians" will spout some made up nonsense that they were falsely claiming to be from Egypt..phhffff

[audiolink]

Very interesting posts on this.
Here is something I found ages ago and kept.
History of the Scottish Nation

http://www.reformation.org/scothistvol1.pdf

Goes into a lot of detail about the Balkan region of Turkey where the Ark settled after the flood. How Noahs sons went in three different directions to settle.

[edelweiss pirate]

Very interesting posts on this.
Here is something I found ages ago and kept.
History of the Scottish Nation

http://www.reformation.org/scothistvol1.pdf

Goes into a lot of detail about the Balkan region of Turkey where the Ark settled after the flood. How Noahs sons went in three different directions to settle.

A friend of mine who is from Georgia attended a cultural exchange with a group of Scots and they were amazed at the cultural memes they shared with the Georgian people, the traditional music was close to Celtic music and they even had their own form of shortbread.

I think there is a case that Georgia is the origin of the Gallic/Gaelic people.... I also find it interesting that England's patron Saint George is venerated in Georgia (hence the name) and the Georgian national flag is virtually identical to England's cross of saint George. Also Georgia is said to be the origin of the white Caucasian peoples..... What is it with Georgia? What happened here all those years ago?

[bendoon]

A friend of mine who is from Georgia attended a cultural exchange with a group of Scots and they were amazed at the cultural memes they shared with the Georgian people, the traditional music was close to Celtic music and they even had their own form of shortbread.



Did you know that the area called Georgia was at one time called Iberia ? and that on the declaration of Arbroath the Scots claim to have come from that area via Spain.

http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/images/Georgia/Colchis_files/image011.jpg

[andy89lion]

Great thread. I heard that they found remnants of bagpipes in ancient Egypt (I play the bagpipes) so another possible cultural connection there. Also there is the famous story about the stone of scone being brought to Scotland by an egyptian princess. Anyway, I dug this up. Mohammad Al Fayed saying that the Scots 'are Egptians'. Perhaps he knows a thing or two about 'real history' with the circles he's been in.

If Scotland did leave the United Kingdom, then Al-Fayed said that he plans to buy Balmoral Castle and turn it into a museum. But, for now, it is now the businessmans intention to erect a statue in honour of Scota, an Egyptian princess who is said to have founded Scotland some 3,600 years ago.
Al-Fayed said, “You Scots are originally Egyptians. Like Scota, I travelled north and I found the Balnagown estate. I will erect a statue of her to honour the links between Scotland and Egypt.”


http://www.scotclans.com/bletherskite/?p=1364

[gravey420]

im not sure how relevant this is to this thread but there are 2 places in the world i feel an amazingly strong connection to. 1. is celtic europe and the other is the middle east...as in the semitic part in africa and basically all of that part of the world... I am currently going on the theory that I was either at one time heavily involved in the spiritual orginisation of places like egypt and ancient africa, carthage, greece, the semitic tribal homeland of the biblical tribes and very early celtic europe. specifically Ireland, France, Germany, Holland and the Norse.
Who knows? maybe someone interested in politics would always have been involved in the major shakedown wherever they were or maybe I just like the people and the way they do things...either way I couldn't explain half of the stuff in this thread but i wouldn't ever put anything past the countries Scotland, England, Wales and Egypt. As they've always seemed to me to be the centres for behind the curtain work.
I think its amazing how staggeringly little we know about ancient Egypt though but my intuition tells me that the first age of earth theorists who say everyone was everywhere are dead on the money and Africa is a huge place with Egypt right on the olive as they say. Bagpipes in Africa? Why not? Kings have always been entertained by foreign cultures no matter where they were.

[butterfly86]

Very interesting read. This is definitely something that you do not learn in History class at any level.