Russian youth rally for Putin!...

[december]

This is what the Illuminati (aka ZOG) hate to see...

;)

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2007/07/18/russia-youthx-large.jpg


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LAKE SELIGER, Russia (AP) — It was like the first day of summer camp at this lakeside resort, but the scrubbed young campers in T-shirts and casual clothes had more than beadwork and canoeing on their minds.

Ten thousand young commissars — their title borrowed from the Communist Party leaders of the Soviet era — came here to learn to be Russia's next generation of tycoons and political leaders. Equally important, they came to prepare to stamp out any challenge from opposition groups to President Vladimir Putin's government.

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All were summoned by Nashi, a pro-Kremlin organization that pays homage to Putin and seeks to promote Russia's resurrection as a superpower capable of frustrating what leaders call Western "imperialism."

"In 10 years, we will have a huge network of people who share our ideology and who know that is Russia's proper place in the world," Vasily Yakemenko, the founder of the group, told reporters at the camp Tuesday.

Nashi is a foe of Other Russia — an opposition alliance that has sponsored a series of anti-government marches in recent months — and Nashi organizers lost few opportunities to ridicule and denounce Kremlin critics as political extremists and deviants.


Nearby, there was a poster depicting an intercontinental ballistic missile with the slogan: "Let there be sovereign democracy," a reference to the Kremlin's definition of democracy stripped of Western influence.

In a series of classes and lectures, Nashi also sought to promote clean living among its 14-28-year-old followers.

Leaders of one Nashi project, "Our Army," encouraged young men not to dodge compulsory conscription. An Orthodox Christian wing of Nashi, founded in May, promotes "missionary activities among the younger generation."

Clad in red T-shirts, the commissars ran to classes in groups wearing name badges with electronic chips that monitored attendance. Skipping lectures was punishable by expulsion — as was boozing, cursing and unsanctioned fraternization.

At an opening ceremony, Yakemenko railed against one hapless teenager who was overheard using the Russian equivalent of the f-word.

"He wants to be a governor?" Yakemenko yelled from the stage. "He'll be a bum and die in the gutter!"

Thousands of youths cheered as he ordered to expel the foul-mouthed youngster from the camp, 300 miles (480 kilometers) north of Moscow.

In talking with reporters, Yakemenko warned the West may attempt a coup during parliamentary elections in December. Nashi will help insure that does not happen, he said.

"Though I don't expect a full scale confrontation," Yakemenko said. "We have brought out 50,000 and even 70,000 people, while the opposition can hardly field several hundred protesters."

Yakemenko, 36, a former construction manager, founded Nashi, which means "Ours," in 2005 ostensibly as an anti-fascist movement aimed at reducing xenophobia and hate crimes.

The new movement replaced an earlier pro-Kremlin group, also led by Yakemenko, called Walking Together. That group became notorious for burning books and disrupting allegedly degenerate art exhibitions and performances.

Analysts said the Kremlin scrapped Walking Together because of its scandal-tainted image, and created Nashi in its place. Vladislav Surkov, the Kremlin's deputy chief of staff, is said to be the mastermind behind both groups.

Nashi has grown rapidly, sprouting branches in most of Russia's 85 regions and staging public cleanup campaigns and other civic projects. It has also organized huge street demonstrations, where tens of thousands of youngsters have congratulated Putin on his birthday or election anniversary.

But analysts say these rallies have another purpose: to warn opposition groups that any anti-Kremlin street protests will be met by much larger counter-demonstrations.

Nashi has supported the Kremlin in other ways. In April, members of the group besieged the Estonian Embassy in Moscow to protest the relocation of a Red Army memorial in the Estonian capital, Tallinn. At one point, boisterous young activists chased the ambassador from her car.

For the Nashi faithful, membership combines patriotism with self-improvement — in a manner reminiscent of the Soviet-era Communist youth group, Komsomol.

"There is no alternatives to Nashi," said Artyom Samoilov, a sophomore student from Kursk. "It is a union of like-minded people, very much like the Komsomol."

To its critics, Nashi represents an effort by the Kremlin to emulate the old Soviet bosses, and channel the energy and enthusiasm of Russian youth to the service of the state.

Nashi projects are prolific and well funded, although Yakemenko refused to elaborate on sources.

"I just don't know how much it cost," Yakemenko said about the funding of the Seliger camp that hosted 10,000 youths divided into 54 regional and vocational delegations. "But I'm assuring you that we did not take a single kopeck of the taxpayer's money."[/b]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-07-18-russia-putin-youth_N.htm?csp=15


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[lumukanda]

more like impoverished youth jump at chance to get a free camp!
oh and you forgot the bit where the kids have microchips to trace their movements...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6903&highlight=putin

[john white]

Classic Mind Control

Russian Fascists are just what the world doesnt need, and just what Nashi is about


http://illusionsforum.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=4429

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=471324&in_page_id=1770

Sex for the motherland: Russian youths encouraged to procreate at camp

By EDWARD LUCAS - More by this author »

Last updated at 08:35am on 29th July 2007

Remember the mammoths, say the clean-cut organisers at the youth camp's mass wedding. "They became extinct because they did not have enough sex. That must not happen to Russia".


Obediently, couples move to a special section of dormitory tents arranged in a heart-shape and called the Love Oasis, where they can start procreating for the motherland.


With its relentlessly upbeat tone, bizarre ideas and tight control, it sounds like a weird indoctrination session for a phoney religious cult.

But this organisation - known as "Nashi", meaning "Ours" - is youth movement run by Vladimir Putin's Kremlin that has become a central part of Russian political life

Nashi's annual camp, 200 miles outside Moscow, is attended by 10,000 uniformed youngsters and involves two weeks of lectures and physical fitness.

Attendance is monitored via compulsory electronic badges and anyone who misses three events is expelled. So are drinkers; alcohol is banned. But sex is encouraged, and condoms are nowhere on sale.


Bizarrely, young women are encouraged to hand in thongs and other skimpy underwear - supposedly a cause of sterility - and given more wholesome and substantial undergarments.

Twenty-five couples marry at the start of the camp's first week and ten more at the start of the second. These mass weddings, the ultimate expression of devotion to the motherland, are legal and conducted by a civil official.

Attempting to raise Russia's dismally low birthrate even by eccentric-seeming means might be understandable. Certainly, the country's demographic outlook is dire. The hard-drinking, hardsmoking and disease-ridden population is set to plunge by a million a year in the next decade.

But the real aim of the youth camp - and the 100,000-strong movement behind it - is not to improve Russia's demographic profile, but to attack democracy.

Under Mr Putin, Russia is sliding into fascism, with state control of the economy, media, politics and society becoming increasingly heavy-handed. And Nashi, along with other similar youth movements, such as 'Young Guard', and 'Young Russia', is in the forefront of the charge.

At the start, it was all too easy to mock. I attended an early event run by its predecessor, 'Walking together', in the heart of Moscow in 2000. A motley collection of youngsters were collecting 'unpatriotic' works of fiction for destruction.

It was sinister in theory, recalling the Nazis' book-burning in the 1930s, but it was laughable in practice. There was no sign of ordinary members of the public handing in books (the copies piled on the pavement had been brought by the organisers).

Once the television cameras had left, the event organisers admitted that they were not really volunteers, but being paid by "sponsors". The idea that Russia's anarchic, apathetic youth would ever be attracted into a disciplined mass movement in support of their president - what critics called a "Putinjugend", recalling the "Hitlerjugend" (German for "Hitler Youth") - seemed fanciful.

How wrong we were. Life for young people in Russia without connections is a mixture of inadequate and corrupt education, and a choice of boring dead-end jobs. Like the Hitler Youth and the Soviet Union's Young Pioneers, Nashi and its allied movements offer not just excitement, friendship and a sense of purpose - but a leg up in life, too.

Nashi's senior officials - known, in an eerie echo of the Soviet era, as "Commissars" - get free places at top universities. Thereafter, they can expect good jobs in politics or business - which in Russia nowadays, under the Kremlin's crony capitalism, are increasingly the same thing.

Nashi and similar outfits are the Kremlin's first line of defence against its greatest fear: real democracy. Like the sheep chanting "Four legs good, two legs bad" in George Orwell's Animal Farm, they can intimidate through noise and numbers.

Nashi supporters drown out protests by Russia's feeble and divided democratic opposition and use violence to drive them off the streets.

The group's leaders insist that the only connection to officialdom is loyalty to the president. If so, they seem remarkably well-informed.

In July 2006, the British ambassador, Sir Anthony Brenton, infuriated the Kremlin by attending an opposition meeting. For months afterwards, he was noisily harassed by groups of Nashi supporters demanding that he "apologise". With uncanny accuracy, the hooligans knew his movements in advance - a sign of official tip-offs.

Even when Nashi flagrantly breaks the law, the authorities do not intervene. After Estonia enraged Russia by moving a Sovietera war memorial in April, Nashi led the blockade of Estonia's Moscow embassy. It daubed the building with graffiti, blasted it with Stalinera military music, ripped down the Estonian flag and attacked a visiting ambassador's car. The Moscow police, who normally stamp ruthlessly on public protest, stood by.

Nashi fits perfectly into the Kremlin's newly-minted ideology of "Sovereign democracy". This is not the mind-numbing jargon of Marxism-Leninism, but a lightweight collection of cliches and slogans promoting Russia's supposed unique political and spiritual culture.

It is strongly reminiscent of the Tsarist era slogan: "Autocracy, Orthodoxy and Nationality".

The similarities to both the Soviet and Tsarist eras are striking. Communist ideologues once spent much of their time explaining why their party deserved its monopoly of power, even though the promised utopia seemed indefinitely delayed.

Today, the Kremlin's ideology chief Vladislav Surkov is trying to explain why questioning the crooks and spooks who run Russia is not just mistaken, but treacherous.

Yet, by comparison with other outfits, Nashi looks relatively civilised. Its racism and prejudice is implied, but not trumpeted. Other pro-Kremlin youth groups are hounding gays and foreigners off the streets of Moscow. Mestnye [The Locals] recently distributed leaflets urging Muscovites to boycott non-Russian cab drivers.

These showed a young blonde Russian refusing a ride from a swarthy, beetle-browed taxi driver, under the slogan: "We're not going the same way."

Such unofficial xenophobia matches the official stance. On April 1, a decree explicitly backed by Mr Putin banned foreigners from trading in Russia's retail markets. By some estimates, 12m people are working illegally in Russia.

Those who hoped that Russia's first post-totalitarian generation would be liberal, have been dissapointed. Although explicit support for extremist and racist groups is in the low single figures, support for racist sentiments is mushrooming.

Slogans such as "Russia for the Russians" now attract the support of half of the population. Echoing Kremlin propaganda, Nashi denounced Estonians as "fascist", for daring to say that they find Nazi and Soviet memorials equally repugnant. But, in truth, it is in Russia that fascism is all too evident.

The Kremlin sees no role for a democratic opposition, denouncing its leaders as stooges and traitors. Sadly, most Russians agree: a recent poll showed that a majority believed that opposition parties should not be allowed to take power.

Just as the Nazis in 1930s rewrote Germany's history, the Putin Kremlin is rewriting Russia's. It has rehaabilitated Stalin, the greatest massmurderer of the 20th century. And it is demonising Boris Yeltsin, Russia's first democratically-elected president. That he destroyed totalitarianism is ignored. Instead, he is denounced for his "weak" pro-Western policies.

While distorting its own history, the Kremlin denounces other countries. Mr Putin was quick to blame Britain's "colonial mentality" for our government's request that Russia try to find a legal means of extraditing Andrei Lugovoi, the prime suspect in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

Yet the truth is that Britain, like most Western countries, flagellates itself for the crimes of the past. Indeed, British schoolchildren rarely learn anything positive about their country's empire. And, if Mr Putin has his way, Russian pupils will learn nothing bad about the Soviet empire, which was far bloodier, more brutal - and more recent.

A new guide for history teachers - explicitly endorsed by Mr Putin - brushes off Stalin's crimes. It describes him as "the most successful leader of the USSR". But it skates over the colossal human cost - 25m people were shot and starved in the cause of communism.

"Political repression was used to mobilise not only rank-and-file citizens but also the ruling elite," it says. In other words, Stalin wanted to make the country strong, so he may have been a bit harsh at times. At any time since the collapse of Soviet totalitarianism in the late 1980s, that would have seemed a nauseating whitewash. Now, it is treated as bald historical fact.

If Stalin made mistakes, so what? Lots of people make mistakes.

"Problematic pages in our history exist," Mr Putin said last week. But: "we have less than some countries. And ours are not as terrible as those of some others." He compared the Great Terror of 1937, when 700,000 people were murdered in a purge by Stalin's secret police, to the atom bomb on Hiroshima.

The comparison is preposterous. A strong argument can be made that by ending the war quickly, the atom bombs saved countless lives.

Franklin D Roosevelt and Harry Truman-may have failed to realise that nuclear weapons would one day endanger humanity's survival. But, unlike Stalin, they were not genocidal maniacs.

As the new cold war deepens, Mr Putin echoes, consciously or unconsciously, the favourite weapon of Soviet propagandists in the last one.

Asked about Afghanistan, they would cite Vietnam. Castigated for the plight of Soviet Jews, they would complain with treacly sincerity about discrimination against American blacks. Every blot on the Soviet record was matched by something, real or imagined, that the West had done.

But the contrasts even then were absurd. When the American administration blundered into Vietnam, hundreds of thousands of people protested in the heart of Washington. When eight extraordinarily brave Soviet dissidents tried to demonstrate in Red Square against the invasion of Czechoslovakia, in 1968, they were instantly arrested and spent many years in labour camps.

For the east European countries with first-hand experience of Stalinist terror, the Kremlin's rewriting of history could hardly be more scary. Not only does Russia see no reason to apologise for their suffering under Kremlin rule, it now sees the collapse of communism not as a time of liberation, but as an era of pitiable weakness.

Russia barely commemorates even the damage it did to itself, let alone the appalling suffering inflicted on other people. Nashi is both a symptom of the way Russia is going - and a means of entrenching the drift to fascism.

Terrifyingly, the revived Soviet view of history is now widely held in Russia. A poll this week of Russian teenagers showed that a majority believe that Stalin did more good things than bad.

If tens of thousands of uniformed German youngsters were marching across Germany in support of an authoritarian Fuhrer, baiting foreigners and praising Hitler, alarm bells would be jangling all across Europe. So why aren't they ringing about Nashi?

Regretably December is another poor soul proving goethe right yet again:

"There are none so enslaved as those who falsley believe they are free"

And that illuminati scum Putin will no doubt succeed in raising his army of mind slaves to opress the Russian people with if easy to lead minds like December's don't gain some wisdom VERY quickly

Odds arn't good there unfortunately

[anoninnyc]

woah thanks jwhite. electronic badges........ sounds exactly what the nwo wants.

[december]

woah thanks jwhite. electronic badges........ sounds exactly what the nwo wants.

The only problem is that the Illuminati media criticize it...

And John White just repeats what the Illuminati propaganda tells him.

[december]

Russian Fascists...

If you are going to make such a claim one more time - I will sue this site for slander.

Slander

A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media -- for example, over the radio or on TV -- it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52

Soviet Union (mostly Russia) lost 27 million people to defeat Nazi Germany and I will not allow people like you, john white, to spit on the memory of these people...


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~webpage/pmoore/picpages/images/putin.jpg

Russian President Vladimir Putin follows Southwark Town Crier Peter Moore to a war memorial beside the Imperial War Museum in London. The memorial commemorates the 27 million Soviet citizens, servicemen and women who died for the Allied victory in World War II. President Putin is the first Russian leader since 1874 to visit Britain.


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~webpage/pmoore/picpages/official_32.htm

[john white]

Russian Fascists...

If you are going to make such a claim one more time - I will sue this site for slander.

LOL on a stick!

Shows how much you really value FREE SPEACH after all your whinging about it!

ROFL

[december]

LOL on a stick!

Shows how much you really value FREE SPEACH after all your whinging about it!

ROFL

It is has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It is slander.


Freedom of speech is the concept of being able to speak freely without censorship. It is often regarded as an integral concept in modern liberal democracies. The right to freedom of speech is guaranteed under international law through numerous human rights instruments, notably under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, although implementation remains lacking in many countries. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes preferred, since the right is not confined to verbal speech but is understood to protect any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, in other words it's about INFORMATION. And now let's see what does SLANDER mean:


Slander

A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media -- for example, over the radio or on TV -- it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52

[anoninnyc]

Slander

A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media -- for example, over the radio or on TV -- it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/85BAB88B-0660-4AB6-A2F5C32E716A6D52

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz what did john white say about YOU and how did it affect your standing in the community or reputation. what are the damages? in the usa for a successful case you need to prove damages. and it is up to you to prove that it is not true.

[john white]

Russian Fascists...

You need to grow a spine mate

easy when you've got someone to TELL you who to drop kick in the face:

but your weak when it comes to standing up on your own

[december]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz what did john white say about YOU and how did it affect your standing in the community or reputation. what are the damages? in the usa for a successful case you need to prove damages. and it is up to you to prove that it is not true.

John White was referring to the organization Nashi.
Quote:

Russian Fascists are just what the world doesnt need, and just what Nashi is about

So, if David Icke and his moderators are not going to apologize then it is this organization NASHI that is going to sue davidicke.com/forum and dailymail.co.uk.

Is it clear now, anoninnyc?

[anoninnyc]

John White was referring to the organization Nashi.
Quote:

Russian Fascists are just what the world doesnt need, and just what Nashi is about

So, if David Icke and his moderators are not going to apologize then it is this organization NASHI that is going to sue davidicke.com/forum and dailymail.co.uk.

Is it clear now, anoninnyc?

you had said and i quote, "If you are going to make such a claim one more time - I will sue this site for slander." but this would make a lot more sense for Nashi to sue. However, truth is an affirmative defense against slander and libel so they would have to prove that fascist is an unfair characterization AND that there are damages.

[john white]

John White was referring to the organization Nashi.
Quote:

Russian Fascists are just what the world doesnt need, and just what Nashi is about

So, if David Icke and his moderators are not going to apologize then it is this organization NASHI that is going to sue davidicke.com/forum and dailymail.co.uk.

Is it clear now, anoninnyc?

Its quite clear how you hate exposure of this dirty little fascist secret and want to spin it desperately, but then its also clear you really don't know how transparent you are

Sue!

LOL!

Nashi Nazis!

[john white]

Putin's really got you under his thumb hasn't he December? I mean just look at this:

organization NASHI that is going to sue davidicke.com/forum and dailymail.co.uk.


When you say NASHI you mean PUTIN and what you are telling us is that the president of Russia is going to sue this forum and a british newspaper

Assuming anyone was both weak and gullable enough to think your words any other than empty rantings, look what you'd prove if you were right anyway:

That Putin is a Fascist MURDERER who Hates Freedom of Speech, and by extension Hates Freedom of thought, and therefore Hates FREEDOM

[john white]

And therefore is exactly the same as Bush and all the other shit-head Illuminati puppets

[lumukanda]

The only problem is that the Illuminati media criticize it...

And John White just repeats what the Illuminati propaganda tells him.

oh the irony, especially since your source for the original article was USA Today!

oh, and nashi are slathering, foaming at the mouth, sycophantic, pro-putin, microchipping fascists, all this kids in one place? sounds like putin's wet dream to me.

is that clear december? sue? bloody hilarious.

[sensimillia]

the funniest thread in a while...:D i think you hit a nerve there, JW.;)

[cruise4]

Given the many historical precedents, how can you think differently December? Its an obvious fascist inspired Youth Movement.

[anoninnyc]

Given the many historical precedents, how can you think differently December? Its an obvious fascist inspired Youth Movement.

yes i agree. i would like to know how you can counter this argument december? if nashi is to sue it must first prove that this is false.